Well I just finished my re-caning chair. The chair is just like this. The screws holding it together were rusted so tight that I had to do it all together. This is my second attempt at a chair/rocker. My first attempt, maybe 10 years ago was just short of a disaster. Your method is excellent/#1/cream of the crop/amazing/peachy/and even better. If I ever have to do another chair re-caning I would not hesitate. I'm sure I could even improve my craftsmanship. Thanks for this video!! And I did this on the morning of my 75th birthday!
This is the very first thing I clicked on after Googling “how to repair rattan” and you just happen to be repairing the exact same set of dining chairs that I just bought. Bloody legend, thanks for an excellent vid 🙏🏻
Magic, dedicated personal service and great advice with very clear instructions. Great to find one who won't die with his music in him! Received my supplies today and can't wait to start!
Thank you. Worked well. The soaking of the caning was extremely important, I used warm water, in a bath tub 30+ minutes, and I helped the tucking in process by lifting the outer edges to ease the caning in. Otherwise, breakage easily results as its a lot of stress. The sanding of the edges was also a good tip. BTW, I removed the old bead out by carefully using a Dremel with a grinder tip. Thanks again.
I had never done this before but I'm pretty handy/crafty. Your video gave me enough confidence to repair the cane seat to my Restoration Hardware chair for only $36. Thanks!
I've replaced the cane seats in my 1970 vintage 6 Thonet bistro chairs but have not taken off the seats to do so. Your method looks much simpler, so I'll take the seat off on my next repair. Sure could use your nifty tool instead of the wood wedges. Great video...thanks!
Thanks for this video! I was just about to give up on a couple of bentwood chairs because of the bad cane webbing. This video made it look simple and very doable.
A woman in Thailand rented a house, completely furnished, to a nice foreign Western family. The house contained very good pieces of furniture including a beautiful, old French Provincial dining room set. The seats on the chairs were made out of this wicker/webbed material and gave it an antique look. Unfortunately, the man of the house was very obese and in less than 2 years, he had managed to tear off the seats on the chairs with his weight. I often wondered how in the world the landlady was going to fix those chairs, if it was possible at all 🤔🤔🤔. I'm glad I saw this video and saw that there was hope for those chairs. Bottom line, never leave valuable furniture in a house you're renting because for sure, the renters will destroy it or cause damage. The landlady thinking it was safe to rent to foreigners and look what happened. No, I am not the landlady LOL😄 I heard this story from a family member. Wonder if the man got his deposit back. SMH
Thank you so much for making this video. I picked up a chair off the side of the road that I fell in love with and the rattan back is destroyed. I’m really excited to be able to restore it and rub it in my husbands face that it was a good trash find 😂😂😆
@@tarasisan Did you stain the cane when you were finished like he suggested at the end of the video? Did you purchase that tool or create a tool to press it in in the corners or utilize some thing you already had?
Well dang, you make it look so easy! I have seat almost exactly like that, round. Thank you so much for doing this. Don't know if I'll actually do it myself but at least now I know what to look for.
The hardest part of this was preparing the groove! It might only take 10 mins to put the cane in, but it took me over an hour to clean out the groove to get it ready. Any tips for next time?
Hey Andrew, yes use a router, or drill bit. Shave the top curve off the old spline with a sharp chisel before drilling. Drill holes as close as you can to each other. Ensure you only drill down approx 6 mm, then turn the drill bit at 45 degrees to clean out the spline. Do this very carefully so as not to damage the timber frame. Oh...and have a glass of wine on the side! Good luck.
Your videos are awesome. Shows your great talents, sound is great, and because you are extraordinarily talented, you make this art look easy. I have 2 1960s wicker and rattan chairs that ITHINK are in the New England Weave, but they are Hoop Chairs.....a person is sitting inside a large round bamboo hoop that has been woven in the flat wicker. I want to restore these myself, but cannot find any classes in my area. Can you provide me with some advice please. Thank you for sharing your beautiful craft.
You could make a wedge using a piece of 5 mm plywood and sand all the edges and round off the two ends. Apply a couple of coats of varnish to stop the moisture from swelling the plywood. A glove or piece of foam will make it comfortable for your hands when using this ‘unique handmade tool’!
Hi there! Praying for some help! So I just bought some chairs and a couple need repairing ! I love this video but when looking an my chairs the groove that I would be able to wedge the cane in is on the under side of my round chair. 🤦🏻♀️ any advice? On top it’s just the holes Thanks!!
Hi I have a cane question, hoping you’ll see this. I’m recaning chair backs, getting cane from a good place, but it has “hairs” on it. How do you remove these? Most caned chairs are very smooth, unless the cane is damaged. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Also what is the tool you are using to push the cane in?
Hi, this is quite common. You can easily remove the lifted fibres by burning them off. A stick lighter can be used, however make sure to have a damp cloth at hand just incase !. Otherwise you could snip them off with scissors, or leave them until they gradually wear off naturally. It is possible however that you may have a second grade material. If so, hope that it will be good for a few years.
@@wickerguru how would I know the quality, I am buying from an online store in California. The ones from Amazon were awful. These are sold by the ft, which is less wasteful for sure. Thank you for responding. 😊
@@teresaewers8522 Best to source direct from a cane supplier/importer, and have a chat with the supplier about the quality. You get what you pay for. Cane materials sourced online, as you have experienced, can be of poor quality.
I had quick question, can I sand down a darker finished cane chair to the bare wood and just put a clear seal it to make it lighter than it was before?
thanks for your lession; however, most chairs dont have that bevel or place to fill in most of them are flat. would you show one that is regular flat chair.thanks .
Hi there, I think that you might be a little confused. This is for seats that already have a channel, or have one routered. If there's a seat with holes around the frame, then it requires to be hand woven. www.wickerworks.com.au/chair-caning-video-instructions.html
on two of the chairs I have there is no groove. what size does it be to optimally hold the spline and the weaving material? looks like I will need to use a router to cut the groove. regards
I have a table I picked up at a yard sale for 3 bucks. I'm dreaming of repairing it but I'm afraid it might be too damaged. I believe it may have gotten wet before i purchased it. When we pulled the old rattan weaving and cane spline off, all around the edges of both bottom and top shelves, the particle board crumbled off. So now there's no groove to work with. Can anyone picture my dilemma? Any advise?
Good day! How many millimeters in diameter should the rattan core cane be for this chair? I measured it on top of a chair and it's 5 mm, but maybe it's flattened? I have same chair. Spline or core rattan cane better?
@@wickerguru I allready found a table in Amazon for spline cone depends groove wight in duim and spline in mm (for example for 1/8 duim=3.175 mm groove wight need 6.5 mm spline, because spline is not like a circle its like trapezoid) , so that table not like your rull ( in that site spline from 6 to10 mm and I don't understand it for wight or for height because spline not like a circle its like trapezoid) , your rull is clear and understandable in this method of recover the chair (because there is other matherial in the channel ) but if it spline I don't understand how you meassered it for minimum size or for maximum if it like trapezoid not like a circle it measement wight or height? But if I buy core (like circle) cane the rule will be the same? What is better spline (not a circle like trapezoid) or core ( like a circle) cane? I don't fine spline on Aliexpress, only core cane. Spline I can buy only in Amazon for now, but there is a problem with delivery from Amazon to Russia and I have to use mediator service for delivery it from Amazon.....
@@Deniskamir Hello again, I only use Round Core/Reed, as I find that the it works just as well as using a Spline. Make life easier for yourself !! Good luck.
NO...only soak the rattan webbing for up to 30 mins in warm water, no longer as the rattan will darken and the fibres will become weak. The Spline can be briefly splashed with water just to soften the outer edge before fitting. If you soak...the spline will swell and soften making it impossible to fit.
Hi. This is a really good video! Informative and easy to follow. I have been asked to make wardrobes with timber frame doors with woven rattan panels. I have never done anything in rattan before. I'm reluctant to take on the project as I am worried that the 2 metre high doors will not stay straight. Have you ever done doors like this and encountered problems? Thanks
Hey Paul, We fit rattan to doors all the time. The issue you may have is the timber door frame can warp. You have to fit the rattan wet onto the frame, then it's advisable to clamp the doors to stay flat to eliminate any warping. Allow the rattan to dry slow and naturally, so best in a cool area. Hope this helps.
@@wickerguru Thank you for the advuce. I was thinking that as the rattan dries and shrinks, it may pull the stiles causing them to curve inwards. I think i will put a central rail in the doors to reduce the area. If I clamp the doors to a flat bench, as you say, I think it'll work nicely. I'm looking forward to making it now. Cheers!
No, it's far better to leave the rattan webbing in its natural state. It will darken with age. Apply Orange Oil will help maintain the rattan. Or you can apply a thin coat of shellac, but only to the top surface, not the underside as rattan should be allowed to breath insuring longevity.
Instructions: Yes soak the rattan in warm water for 20 - 30 mins before fitting. Do not soak the spline. www.wickerworks.com.au/chair-caning-instructions.html
Most vendors pre-soak the spline, but, it wouldn't hurt to do so, again, in warm water for 10-20 minutes, depending on the length. Always soak the entire spline before you cut it (makes it way easier to handle than individual pieces). Let air-dry for about 10 minutes before working with it. Do not re-soak, unless you are working in a very dry environment, which isn't likely; too much wetting will make the spline spongy and useless.
Hi Richard, How can i make my thick rattan outdoor chair and ottoman look newer and conditioned? Do you recommend orange oil or a howard rub conditioner?
Hello Libby, your best option is to wash down with sugar soap in warm to hot water to remove any weather and grime. Then once rinsed well with clean water and allowed to dry naturally, you can use a medium to fine sanding sponge to prepare the rattan before applying a couple of coats of exterior polyurethane. Then if you like, apply a coat of Orange Oil. If you apply the O/O without the steps above, then you could be disappointed with the result. Good luck. Wicker Guru
I chose the right size spline based on a chart I found. But it just seems too thick to fit in the groove once the cane is in there. I have wooden wedges, and even though I have soaked the cane, it doesn't stay in the groove like your video. Do you recommend getting thinner spline? I've now bought cane twice (getting expensive as they require you to buy 5 feet).
Jane, What ever the width of the groove you have, say 6 mm, choose a 5 mm cane spline. A 1 mm smaller size than that of the width of the groove will work. If the spline you have is too thick, then you can easily shave off 1 mm using a sharp utility knife. By the way you can dampen the spline but DO NOT SOAK this. If you do, it will swell and make it all but impossible to fit into the groove. If you still have difficulties send me a few pics to: wickerguru@gmail.com
Thank you for the quick reply! I considered getting a thinner spline but trimming what I have is a good idea. I am soaking the cane. I don't have a nifty tool like yours but I do have wooden wedges. But no amount of hammering them in really keeps the cane deep in the groove like your video. I did make make the mistake of soaking the spline so it's good to know I shouldn't do that. I hadn't thought of the swelling. Makes sense! I'd like to salvage the cane I already have in one chair. I ripped out the spline but the glue is hardening as we speak. When I ripped out the original cane and spline I used the warm vinegar water solution to soften the glue. Should I do something like that again? I don't want to the glue to get too hard before I can get the other spline in.
You can use a wooden ice cream stick to push and EASE the rattan into the groove. If you are using PVA wood glue, this can easily be dissolved with warm water. Although by the time you get this message, it may be too late. If you have the correct size spline, you only need to tap this in with a hammer, and it should lay level with the outer edge. Wipe away any excess glue with a damp cloth and allow to dry slow and naturally. Not in the sun or by a heater. Good luck this time around Jane.
No need for any finish. Leave it natural as it will darken with age and sunlight. Or, and if you must, you can apply a coat of shellac, oil, polyurethane or lacquer. That's your call.
It's my very own hand made super dooper polished metal with leather grip 'wicker wedge worker'. Good point Donna, but couldn't make them cheap enough to sell and too small a market.
I bet that a similar tool could be fashioned from a strong rigid plastic, thru injection molding. Similar to the plastic that is used for football helmets, or some types of plastic that I've seen parts for the military molded from. Rigid, extremely strong, just like your metal. Rounded, like the leather grip. Market it at trade shows, forums, etc. I don't know...but seems likely to me. :)
I have been doing this for over 20 years I use a plastic very cheap screen roller the tool you put a screen wire in a window or screen door works wonderful don't like using metal it will cut the cane
Hi I'm looking for a supplier selling cane inserts. I have 2 chairs with broken cane. Any info appreciated. Your videos are very informative. Thank You
Ooooooh yes, you're quite right, incorrect spelling. But no idea why you would have been confused for a second?Action speaks louder than words as they say.
Nothing short of ridiculous. This video doesn't show "re-caning", it only shows how to insert new caning. The hard and time-consuming parts are removing the old spline and caning. And if you don't have the right tools (e.g., a spline chisel), can be difficult and very time-consuming.
Well I just finished my re-caning chair. The chair is just like this. The screws holding it together were rusted so tight that I had to do it all together. This is my second attempt at a chair/rocker. My first attempt, maybe 10 years ago was just short of a disaster. Your method is excellent/#1/cream of the crop/amazing/peachy/and even better. If I ever have to do another chair re-caning I would not hesitate. I'm sure I could even improve my craftsmanship. Thanks for this video!! And I did this on the morning of my 75th birthday!
This is the very first thing I clicked on after Googling “how to repair rattan” and you just happen to be repairing the exact same set of dining chairs that I just bought. Bloody legend, thanks for an excellent vid 🙏🏻
Excellent video and instruction. Minimal chit chat, good visuals, and "get to the point" demonstrations! Thanks for sharing.
Thank you kindly, I appreciate your comment Jamie.
Magic, dedicated personal service and great advice with very clear instructions. Great to find one who won't die with his music in him! Received my supplies today and can't wait to start!
Great to hear Nanna, let me know how you went. Good luck.
Thank you. Worked well. The soaking of the caning was extremely important, I used warm water, in a bath tub 30+ minutes, and I helped the tucking in process by lifting the outer edges to ease the caning in. Otherwise, breakage easily results as its a lot of stress. The sanding of the edges was also a good tip. BTW, I removed the old bead out by carefully using a Dremel with a grinder tip. Thanks again.
Well done. I'm so pleased to know that it went well by following the instructions.
I had never done this before but I'm pretty handy/crafty. Your video gave me enough confidence to repair the cane seat to my Restoration Hardware chair for only $36. Thanks!
Good to hear ... great bargain too.
Hey Dana - were your RH chairs the Bauhaus side char? How did replacing the caning yourself work for you?
I made a tool like his of hardwood. That works exellent, made it all easy. Just like in this video which is just great ! Thank You (tube)
I've replaced the cane seats in my 1970 vintage 6 Thonet bistro chairs but have not taken off the seats to do so. Your method looks much simpler, so I'll take the seat off on my next repair. Sure could use your nifty tool instead of the wood wedges. Great video...thanks!
Thank you Joe, yes removing the seat will make it that more easier. Good luck.
Thanks for this video! I was just about to give up on a couple of bentwood chairs because of the bad cane webbing. This video made it look simple and very doable.
Excellent video. Just boug a Detroit Chair from the 1870's that was missing the cane so the video came in handy. Thanks
A woman in Thailand rented a house, completely furnished, to a nice foreign Western family. The house contained very good pieces of furniture including a beautiful, old French Provincial dining room set. The seats on the chairs were made out of this wicker/webbed material and gave it an antique look. Unfortunately, the man of the house was very obese and in less than 2 years, he had managed to tear off the seats on the chairs with his weight.
I often wondered how in the world the landlady was going to fix those chairs, if it was possible at all 🤔🤔🤔. I'm glad I saw this video and saw that there was hope for those chairs.
Bottom line, never leave valuable furniture in a house you're renting because for sure, the renters will destroy it or cause damage. The landlady thinking it was safe to rent to foreigners and look what happened. No, I am not the landlady LOL😄 I heard this story from a family member. Wonder if the man got his deposit back. SMH
Thank you so much for making this video. I picked up a chair off the side of the road that I fell in love with and the rattan back is destroyed. I’m really excited to be able to restore it and rub it in my husbands face that it was a good trash find 😂😂😆
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Good job. Inwete.came.so when it dries to cane.tightens. I really appreciated the video thank you.
Lovely relaxed style of example am so going to try this thanks a ton.
great instruction . Got piano bench for project as well as old chair my mom started 40 years ago and I can finish for her now . Thanks
Excellent instruction. This video is just what I wanted to see to start with the repair of a square seat. Thank you
Wickedly simple wicker! Very nice demo, many thanks!!
5:58 - PREFERRED, not PREFERED.
3:58 pour not poor, but he aint an english teacher😁. Thanks for the great video
I really like that kind of work! Today the kits just want to hang around on the computer. Crafts are still alive! So lucky!
I knew a man who wove the caning - it was a long time ago and he was old. Chairs with holes instead of a channel work differently.
Wish me luck, im attempting this tomorrow. I've got 8, to repair 😍
Take a deep breath and have a glass of wine at hand, you'll be fine.
How did it go?
@@leassiaturner7724 i took my time on the first chair but I got the hang of it when I got to the 3rd chair. They turned out so neat. 😍
@@tarasisan Did you stain the cane when you were finished like he suggested at the end of the video? Did you purchase that tool or create a tool to press it in in the corners or utilize some thing you already had?
@@leassiaturner7724 no I didn't stain them. And used an old butter knife as well as my painting/palette knife 😅
Thank you so much for the helpful and informative video
No worries ...:)
Quite the art! 💕👍
Thank you Jonny.
Very informative, exactly the lesson I needed.
+Douglas Akerman good to hear mate. A good lesson in caning...way to go!
Demo is very simple and perfect
Well dang, you make it look so easy! I have seat almost exactly like that, round. Thank you so much for doing this. Don't know if I'll actually do it myself but at least now I know what to look for.
Really good instructions, you are my hero.
Now that's a first...being called a Hero. Thank you.x
The hardest part of this was preparing the groove! It might only take 10 mins to put the cane in, but it took me over an hour to clean out the groove to get it ready. Any tips for next time?
Hey Andrew, yes use a router, or drill bit. Shave the top curve off the old spline with a sharp chisel before drilling. Drill holes as close as you can to each other. Ensure you only drill down approx 6 mm, then turn the drill bit at 45 degrees to clean out the spline. Do this very carefully so as not to damage the timber frame. Oh...and have a glass of wine on the side! Good luck.
@@wickerworks-richard3847 hi) would you be so kind to tell, how deep and how wide a groove should be? I mean the one, rattan webbing goes into...
@@wickerworks-richard3847 Thanks. That sounds like a good technique, better than my attempt with chisels and a stanley knife! Will try it next time
@@mozhno_vse_i_dazhe_bolshe the most common size groove is 5 mm wide x 5-6 mm deep.
@@wickerworks-richard3847 thank you so much!
that is awesome... thank you for making this video! I love my rocking chair and it needs some love . Cheers!
No worries, happy caning!.
Gracias!! Es el mejor vídeo que he visto sobre el tema, me ha sido de gran ayuda.
What if there's no groove, do you have to the weave the cane yourself? I have 4 very old bentwood chairs I'm restoring
Your videos are awesome. Shows your great talents, sound is great, and because you are extraordinarily talented, you make this art look easy. I have 2 1960s wicker and rattan chairs that ITHINK are in the New England Weave, but they are Hoop Chairs.....a person is sitting inside a large round bamboo hoop that has been woven in the flat wicker. I want to restore these myself, but cannot find any classes in my area. Can you provide me with some advice please. Thank you for sharing your beautiful craft.
Best that you email me pics and details, thanks wickerguru@gmail.com
How do I find something resembling the wedge you are using?
You could make a wedge using a piece of 5 mm plywood and sand all the edges and round off the two ends. Apply a couple of coats of varnish to stop the moisture from swelling the plywood. A glove or piece of foam will make it comfortable for your hands when using this ‘unique handmade tool’!
Oddly satisfying. Thanks for posting!
Hi there! Praying for some help!
So I just bought some chairs and a couple need repairing ! I love this video but when looking an my chairs the groove that I would be able to wedge the cane in is on the under side of my round chair. 🤦🏻♀️ any advice? On top it’s just the holes
Thanks!!
www.wickerworks.com.au/chair-caning-instructions.html. Your seat should be hand woven. Chair cane woven through the holes.
thanks. I just found a few chairs with seat broken and this inspires me so maybe I'll buy them and do it. :)
can you sendero me when bus The rattan net in E.U. Thank you.
Super video
Hi I have a cane question, hoping you’ll see this. I’m recaning chair backs, getting cane from a good place, but it has “hairs” on it. How do you remove these? Most caned chairs are very smooth, unless the cane is damaged. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Also what is the tool you are using to push the cane in?
Hi, this is quite common. You can easily remove the lifted fibres by burning them off. A stick lighter can be used, however make sure to have a damp cloth at hand just incase !. Otherwise you could snip them off with scissors, or leave them until they gradually wear off naturally. It is possible however that you may have a second grade material. If so, hope that it will be good for a few years.
@@wickerguru how would I know the quality, I am buying from an online store in California. The ones from Amazon were awful. These are sold by the ft, which is less wasteful for sure. Thank you for responding. 😊
@@teresaewers8522 Best to source direct from a cane supplier/importer, and have a chat with the supplier about the quality. You get what you pay for. Cane materials sourced online, as you have experienced, can be of poor quality.
Does the cane shrink and tighten after it dries?
Yes it sure does.
Was that seat always pressed cane? I only ask because it looks like it has drilled peg holes all the way around it as well as a spline groove.
The seat originally had a handwoven 3 mm chair cane seat. This seat has been routered out to have the pre-woven rattan webbing and spline fitted.
Easy like a window screen. Thanks for showing!
I had quick question, can I sand down a darker finished cane chair to the bare wood and just put a clear seal it to make it lighter than it was before?
I did that then used a premium timber oil. It worked like magic and really soaked into the timber. Richard uses orange oil which smells beautiful.
Thanks for posting this, it's fantastic and just what I was hoping to find.
thanks for your lession; however, most chairs dont have that bevel or place to fill in most of them are flat. would you show one that is regular flat chair.thanks .
Hi there, I think that you might be a little confused. This is for seats that already have a channel, or have one routered. If there's a seat with holes around the frame, then it requires to be hand woven. www.wickerworks.com.au/chair-caning-video-instructions.html
What do you do if the seat is not removable ie: a wooden rocker? Are there any hands-on classes available in the Arlington, Texas area?
on two of the chairs I have there is no groove. what size does it be to optimally hold the spline and the weaving material? looks like I will need to use a router to cut the groove. regards
4 to 5 mm wide and 5 to 6 mm deep
Excellent instructional video. Thank you wickerguru!
I have a table I picked up at a yard sale for 3 bucks. I'm dreaming of repairing it but I'm afraid it might be too damaged. I believe it may have gotten wet before i purchased it. When we pulled the old rattan weaving and cane spline off, all around the edges of both bottom and top shelves, the particle board crumbled off. So now there's no groove to work with. Can anyone picture my dilemma? Any advise?
awesome video. thanks!
Great instruction on how to install the new cane. But you didn't show the time-consuming part - getting the old spline and cane out.
Exactly, as there are so many variable.
Thank you for your showing very good information
a helluva lot quicker than weaving six layers by hand!
I have a similar chair but no grove only holes. How would I fit the cane?
Hi Stephen, then you need to hand weave or router a groove for the pre woven webbing.
www.wickerworks.com.au/chair-caning-video-instructions.html
Good day! How many millimeters in diameter should the rattan core cane be for this chair? I measured it on top of a chair and it's 5 mm, but maybe it's flattened? I have same chair. Spline or core rattan cane better?
General rule, 6 mm wide channel use a 5 mm spline. 5 mm channel use 4 mm spline. Hope this helps 🍷😊
@@wickerguru I allready found a table in Amazon for spline cone depends groove wight in duim and spline in mm (for example for 1/8 duim=3.175 mm groove wight need 6.5 mm spline, because spline is not like a circle its like trapezoid) , so that table not like your rull ( in that site spline from 6 to10 mm and I don't understand it for wight or for height because spline not like a circle its like trapezoid) , your rull is clear and understandable in this method of recover the chair (because there is other matherial in the channel ) but if it spline I don't understand how you meassered it for minimum size or for maximum if it like trapezoid not like a circle it measement wight or height? But if I buy core (like circle) cane the rule will be the same? What is better spline (not a circle like trapezoid) or core ( like a circle) cane? I don't fine spline on Aliexpress, only core cane. Spline I can buy only in Amazon for now, but there is a problem with delivery from Amazon to Russia and I have to use mediator service for delivery it from Amazon.....
@@Deniskamir Hello again, I only use Round Core/Reed, as I find that the it works just as well as using a Spline. Make life easier for yourself !! Good luck.
Did you mention that the rattan and spline should be soaked in water for an hour before installation?
NO...only soak the rattan webbing for up to 30 mins in warm water, no longer as the rattan will darken and the fibres will become weak. The Spline can be briefly splashed with water just to soften the outer edge before fitting. If you soak...the spline will swell and soften making it impossible to fit.
Hi. This is a really good video! Informative and easy to follow.
I have been asked to make wardrobes with timber frame doors with woven rattan panels. I have never done anything in rattan before. I'm reluctant to take on the project as I am worried that the 2 metre high doors will not stay straight. Have you ever done doors like this and encountered problems? Thanks
Hey Paul, We fit rattan to doors all the time. The issue you may have is the timber door frame can warp. You have to fit the rattan wet onto the frame, then it's advisable to clamp the doors to stay flat to eliminate any warping. Allow the rattan to dry slow and naturally, so best in a cool area. Hope this helps.
@@wickerguru Thank you for the advuce. I was thinking that as the rattan dries and shrinks, it may pull the stiles causing them to curve inwards. I think i will put a central rail in the doors to reduce the area. If I clamp the doors to a flat bench, as you say, I think it'll work nicely. I'm looking forward to making it now. Cheers!
Hola? Se puede teñir la rejilla si es de plástico?
No, no puedes manchar el mimbre de plástico
fantastic video.
fantastic feedback too. Thumbs Up!
Do you soak the cane before working with it? Many people do.
Best to follow the instructions. www.wickerworks.com.au/uploads/1/9/6/4/1964779/how_to_pre_woven_original.pdf
Eccellente spiegazione.
Grazie
thank you, merci beaucoup
Where do you get the cane to make these repairs? I’ve been asked to do one for a customer and have no idea. Thanks!
Do you need to seal the cane webbing? maybe spray with a clear sealer?
No, it's far better to leave the rattan webbing in its natural state. It will darken with age. Apply Orange Oil will help maintain the rattan. Or you can apply a thin coat of shellac, but only to the top surface, not the underside as rattan should be allowed to breath insuring longevity.
GREAT VIDEO. Doesn't the excess glue need to be wiped off after tapping in the spline?
Yes of course, during and after. Use a damp cloth, just in case you're not sure.
brilliant
Why thank you. :)
Where did you get the rattan webbing from?
I was just telling some people about you. Great job. Hope all is well.
Yeh all good here Chris, thanks mate. Hope you're catching a few biggies!
Thanks for posting !
Did you soak it in water first? If so, how long?
Instructions: Yes soak the rattan in warm water for 20 - 30 mins before fitting. Do not soak the spline.
www.wickerworks.com.au/chair-caning-instructions.html
Excellent!!!
Beautiful
Potrei avere la possibilità di ricevere la Vienna x rinnovare tre sedie se si il prezzo
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How long must you soak the cane webbing?
30 mins in warm water.
wickerguru do you soak the spline as well ?
Most vendors pre-soak the spline, but, it wouldn't hurt to do so, again, in warm water for 10-20 minutes, depending on the length. Always soak the entire spline before you cut it (makes it way easier to handle than individual pieces). Let air-dry for about 10 minutes before working with it. Do not re-soak, unless you are working in a very dry environment, which isn't likely; too much wetting will make the spline spongy and useless.
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Clear and concise. Thank you.
Well done!
Hi Richard, How can i make my thick rattan outdoor chair and ottoman look newer and conditioned? Do you recommend orange oil or a howard rub conditioner?
Hello Libby, your best option is to wash down with sugar soap in warm to hot water to remove any weather and grime. Then once rinsed well with clean water and allowed to dry naturally, you can use a medium to fine sanding sponge to prepare the rattan before applying a couple of coats of exterior polyurethane. Then if you like, apply a coat of Orange Oil. If you apply the O/O without the steps above, then you could be disappointed with the result. Good luck. Wicker Guru
I chose the right size spline based on a chart I found. But it just seems too thick to fit in the groove once the cane is in there. I have wooden wedges, and even though I have soaked the cane, it doesn't stay in the groove like your video. Do you recommend getting thinner spline? I've now bought cane twice (getting expensive as they require you to buy 5 feet).
Jane, What ever the width of the groove you have, say 6 mm, choose a 5 mm cane spline. A 1 mm smaller size than that of the width of the groove will work.
If the spline you have is too thick, then you can easily shave off 1 mm using a sharp utility knife. By the way you can dampen the spline but DO NOT SOAK this. If you do, it will swell and make it all but impossible to fit into the groove.
If you still have difficulties send me a few pics to: wickerguru@gmail.com
Thank you for the quick reply! I considered getting a thinner spline but trimming what I have is a good idea. I am soaking the cane. I don't have a nifty tool like yours but I do have wooden wedges. But no amount of hammering them in really keeps the cane deep in the groove like your video. I did make make the mistake of soaking the spline so it's good to know I shouldn't do that. I hadn't thought of the swelling. Makes sense!
I'd like to salvage the cane I already have in one chair. I ripped out the spline but the glue is hardening as we speak. When I ripped out the original cane and spline I used the warm vinegar water solution to soften the glue. Should I do something like that again? I don't want to the glue to get too hard before I can get the other spline in.
You can use a wooden ice cream stick to push and EASE the rattan into the groove. If you are using PVA wood glue, this can easily be dissolved with warm water. Although by the time you get this message, it may be too late. If you have the correct size spline, you only need to tap this in with a hammer, and it should lay level with the outer edge. Wipe away any excess glue with a damp cloth and allow to dry slow and naturally. Not in the sun or by a heater. Good luck this time around Jane.
Thank you!
How to buy it this product
what finish?
No need for any finish. Leave it natural as it will darken with age and sunlight.
Or, and if you must, you can apply a coat of shellac, oil, polyurethane or lacquer. That's your call.
Where to buy this kind of cane but in pvc or plastic?
www.wickerworks.com.au/cane-material-supplies.html search: Open Weave Plastic 610 mm wide
I am concerned that using that type of glue will make further repairs impossible. Is it so? I would be inclined to use hide glue, is that silly?
Using PVA wood glue works fine. You really don’t need to use too much glue. It’s easy to remove if you have to repair again.
@@wickerguru Excellent, I think I am ready to take the plunge and fix my old beloved rocker. Thank you for posting, and for your advice.
Do you soak the spline before installing it?
No, there's no need to soak the spline, but you can dampen it just to soften the outside edge.
Is my chair next?
Where do you buy the rattan cane?
I import my own, direct from China
Io devo aggiustare 4 sedie come fare
great job...!!!!
Thanks alot!
You should sellcopies of that tool. It looks superior to any others that I've seen.
It's my very own hand made super dooper polished metal with leather grip 'wicker wedge worker'. Good point Donna, but couldn't make them cheap enough to sell and too small a market.
I bet that a similar tool could be fashioned from a strong rigid plastic, thru injection molding. Similar to the plastic that is used for football helmets, or some types of plastic that I've seen parts for the military molded from. Rigid, extremely strong, just like your metal. Rounded, like the leather grip. Market it at trade shows, forums, etc. I don't know...but seems likely to me. :)
When customers order materials from me, I post out FREE wooden sticks (ice cream sticks) they seem to work well.
I have been doing this for over 20 years I use a plastic very cheap screen roller the tool you put a screen wire in a window or screen door works wonderful don't like using metal it will cut the cane
where can I purchase cane and spline
Australia & New Zealand only. www.wickerworks.com.au/cane-material-supplies.html
Best place in Uk to buy spline any recommendations
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Hi I'm looking for a supplier selling cane inserts. I have 2 chairs with broken cane. Any info appreciated.
Your videos are very informative. Thank You
www.wickerworks.com.au/cane-material-supplies.html
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At 4:00 minutes in video, you are putting glue around the chair, you said to "poor glue" and I was confused for a second. It's "pour glue"...
Ooooooh yes, you're quite right, incorrect spelling. But no idea why you would have been confused for a second?Action speaks louder than words as they say.
You make it look to easy . . . I am afraid to try and recant a chair I picked up at a yard sale.
Go on , give it a go.
If you got it at a yard sale , u can't ruin it.
Where can you get rattan webbing?
www.wickerworks.com.au/cane-material-supplies.html
Nothing short of ridiculous. This video doesn't show "re-caning", it only shows how to insert new caning. The hard and time-consuming parts are removing the old spline and caning. And if you don't have the right tools (e.g., a spline chisel), can be difficult and very time-consuming.
Clearly not this guys first rodeo.
You can learn more about it on WoodPrix webpage.