From favorite to least favorite Old Iron King > The Old Hunters > Old Ivory King > Artorias of the Byss > The Ringed City > Old Sunken King > Ashes of Ariandel Ton of Nostalgia for DS2 because me and my buddies got really into PvP in that one. Haven't played Shadows yet so didn't want to rank it.
I think without the inclusion of frigid outskirts, Ivory King is one of the stronger DLCs. The lore is phenomenal, the final boss is the best in the game, and the layout of the area is really cool. Obviously all of the crown DLCs on their own aren’t going to be as much content as something like The Ringed City, but I feel like there is more love put into it than the DS3 DLCs
Just ignore frigid outskirts. It's a great DLC. And honestly the DS2 DLCs had little areas you could summon people who didn't own the DLC for as a sneak peak, and frigid outskirts was that area for DLC3 which I find actually pretty hilarious.
1. Shadow tree (masterfully done, even beats out my beloved ds2 which says alot) 2. Ds2 trio (perfectly works with the themes of ds2 with adventuring long dead kingdoms for power, as well as a bunch of content with a remember-able boss fight in each one) 3. Old hunters (good story, characters, weapons, and atmosphere - just don’t do chalice dungeons before going in) 4. Ds1 + ds3 ring city (has some of the most important bosses in the entire series. Dark flame and dark bead cool, with patches storyline as lapp really cool) 5. Ashes of ariendel (valor heart probably one of my favorite weapons in the series, hopefully we eventually get another power-stance sword & shield weapon like this - dueling shields are awesome in their own right, just not what I’m specifically looking for)
exactly, just because she was originals lady tomoe doesn’t mean they didn’t completely redo her move set to work with Elden Ring. People just think they put a sekiro moveset in completely different type of game lmao
A scorching hot take: Ringed City is overrated before you start doxing my location to send nukes, hear me out. Overrated doesn’t mean bad, it’s still one of the best experiences I’ve had with any video game BUT aside from first few minutes in dreg heap and ringed city, it’s all grey swamps that you speedrun. It’s beautiful locations are so underused it’s infuriating, two of the most breathtaking places are mostly in grey swamps. I wanted to walk on twisted towers and see more of the golden sun rays which the game gives me only few minutes to awe before sending me to the most unbearable, sloggish, enemy and projectile spamming flat surface Gael is still the best bossfight in gaming history, Midir and demon prince are very good bossfights but without them, the dlc is too boring and samey. I definitely know all of you speedran the locations picking +3 rings and suppress any bad memory with how horrible most of the dlc locations were that’s why I think SOTE is a better dlc, as it has both amazing bosses and good locations that are fun to explore (aside from finger ruins and most of the abyssal woods)
@@thatlittlemonstrosity they don’t lose their mind when someone says something isn’t perfect, no one does, no one actually argues for 100 percent perfection, you’re fighting against a wall
@@thatlittlemonstrosity the vast vast majority of people do not argue for 100 percent perfection and acting like they do is insane, and again your take is the most common thing ever, everyone says that exact same thing about ring city, bosses are great, ring city should have been more explorable
I liked the story of shadow of the Erdtree mainly with how the diffrent npcs and quest intertwine at the end I wish there was more of a ending but I’m not that bothered by it as all the other dlcs more or less have endings like shadow of the Erdtree
True, all of the DLC ending are almost anticlimactic in that you accomplish something potentially incredible, yet almost no one will know the difference. Kos returned to the ocean. Miquella dies with his plans prevented. You give Gaels Pigment to the painter which will eventually lead to a better world, which you will never see. You kill Manus, yet Artorias gets all the credit. I guess, the DS2 DLCs actually do the most in that it gives you another ending.
That's a good point, all DLCs sort of end this way. And honestly, I think lack of a proper ending kinda fits in SotE - Miquella's curse is likely inability to finish anything, so it fits thematically. And this may be a hot take, but I think the final cutscene is good too, in a subtle, metaphorical way. I think it's supposed to show the mind of Miquella - that he doesn't think about anything else, any costs along the way, and doesn't consider Radahn's point of view, being only focused on his final goal.
Shadow of the Erdtree's bosses weren't my taste, I prefer Old Hunters and Ringed City, but I guess I would place Shadow of the Erdtree first place thank to the overall quality.
Lol, i felt you when you said you wished to see more of the Ringed City. I still remember when a streamer was invited to an early preview of DS3 and they showed off Lothric Castle. Then they said: "You see this entire giant city? You can explore all of it." Now take a look at Lothric Castle yourself and try to tell me you indeed explore all of it. Look i love the game, and there's so little wrong really with the content that's there. But you REALLY could've put a side-path from the very first bonfire, one that goes beyond an elevator shortcut to Vordt and then a Puss of Man.
I agree with pretty much everything, but I feel like I would swap the places of The ringed city and shadows of the erdtree. The fact that both the ringed city and the shadow of the erdtree are pretty much perfect for the games they're in is a testament to the insane quality of the devs and storywriters at FromSoft. However the fact that one ends in by far the most epic battle between the last two remaining living things at the end of the world for a chance to claim the dark souls and the other one ends with a kinda unexpected return of a previous boss but without the horse and with holy stuff leading to a 20fps dodge fest is just disappointing. I think that in time people will look back on Gael as a timeless classic boss and this will not be the case for Radahn.
The criticism of ashes of ariandel is very valid, specifically the length- I genuinely think that if everything we saw was the opening half of exploring that land, but friede was placed much further back it would have a far higher rank
I personally would go 3) old hunters 2) shadow of the erdtree 1) ringed city Other than that I agree with everything else. The gale fight caping off the trilogy of dark souls 1,2,&3. Sooo good. Shadow of the erdtree is basically a whole new game. The end is weak, and the leveling system is flawed. But it’s an amazing dlc.
@@tehCostHD DS2 subreddit as well as a video response defending it that I did on another channel had some comments saying they enjoyed it (please note that enjoying it and thinking it is one of the best areas are two completely different things).
All the ds2 DLC's are peak souls. Some of the best level design in the series, legendary bosses, amazing lore. I think as a whole the ds2 dlc's stand above every other game.
I say this with repect so dont hate but... the dlc or game is what it is. I feel so many people play soulsbourne game and only bash them with the excuse of poor design. Ive played though fromsoft's entire catalogue. Yes ive been frustrated/angry at times but if you have to break the game down on a meta level, you're not really playing the game are you?
Put Ivory Crown dlc below Ariandel and we're set. Although i agree about Ariandel being empty, atleast there's one boss that just defeats DS2 dlc bosses. But ivory crown dlc areas are just pain in the ass for me with slow DS2 movements. Ariandel also serves as Sulyvahn's birthplace which also tied to the most ruthless leader of all dark Souls. So yeah thats all my critique
Hey, it seems that you’ve forgot the Sekiro DLC that have perfectly complimented this well-polished yet slightly short game! Oh, yeah… right… Edit : I remarked that you’ve made the same joke in your pinned comment only after posting mine.
I felt like Scadutree fragmenst were the lazy way of balancing. Just one step away from a difficulty slider. Not my cup of tea. And Ringed city was a perfect ending to the whole series. Imo RC > SOTE, especially lorewise
@@AlexCatable recency bias. It would top the old hunters IF the ending was more conclusive and not anticlimactic and if the jagged peak and the coastal areas and the woods had more to them
@@simon-peterwilliamson2412 it's not a recency bias. It's simply the the size and quality of this expansion. Just open the map and look how many areas it has. The level design of the Shadow Lands with it's crazy verticality and sometimes maddening connectors between areas. It's lore and world building. Its bosses. It's atmosphere - I don't know what you meant by "Jagged peak could have more to it" for me it was the best area Froms ever did atmosphere wise. I literally turned back, tail between my legs the first time I attempted to climb it. Just because the scrubs of info I had on Bayle and the whole vibe of the place put too much pressure on me. It is an absolutely epic and sinister and overwhelming place, and the longest climb to it where the only enemies you meet on the way are dragons is the best build up imaginable to one of the best boss fights in series.
To be fair, I kinda agree with the recency bias guy. People pretend like Elden Ring is the best souls game, but 95% of those people haven't played the actual goat, Dark Souls 2. Elsen Ring lacks that glorious level design of Ds1 and Ds2 I love so much. If it wasn't an open world, I'm willing to bet I'd have liked it a lot more. Keep in mind that my personal score for Elden is like a 9.8/10.
For the gaming industry, i'd rate SOTE a 9/10, with 10/10s being perfection and nothing is perfect so yeah. For Fromsoft however, i'd rate SOTE probably about 6/10. The issues i have with the main game are only exacerbated in the DLC and some boss choices are so odd.
Ashes is just a boss fight, with a whole heap of boring, icy bloat. Imo, the dlc would be dramatically improved if it was literally just the boss fight hahahahah
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Sorry, lost the Sekiro: Inner Dragonrot footage but the rest is here(almost). Also don't be shy share your personal ranking with the rest of us.
8 Ivory King
7 Sunken King
6 Painted World of Ariandel
5 Iron King
4 Artorias
3 Old Hunters
2 Ringed City
1 Shadow of the Erdtree
1 Sote
2 Old Hunters
3 Rigged City
Hand it over. That thing. Sekiro dlc.
From favorite to least favorite
Old Iron King > The Old Hunters > Old Ivory King > Artorias of the Byss > The Ringed City > Old Sunken King > Ashes of Ariandel
Ton of Nostalgia for DS2 because me and my buddies got really into PvP in that one. Haven't played Shadows yet so didn't want to rank it.
Artorias > Hunters > Ringed > Shadow > Iron > Ivory > Ashes > Sunken
for the love of god someone please release Bloodborne on PC
It will happen one day.... for now, enjoy purchasing a ps4.
Oh, don´t worry, I also think that Ashes of Ariandel is the weakest; Don´t get me wrong, I absolutely love Friede, but everything else is...meh.
Me too, I don’t think that’s the hottest take of souls dlcs. It’s very short and only thing it’s going for it is Friede.
@@JellyJmanI thought me actually liking ashes was the hot take
I think without the inclusion of frigid outskirts, Ivory King is one of the stronger DLCs. The lore is phenomenal, the final boss is the best in the game, and the layout of the area is really cool. Obviously all of the crown DLCs on their own aren’t going to be as much content as something like The Ringed City, but I feel like there is more love put into it than the DS3 DLCs
Just ignore frigid outskirts. It's a great DLC. And honestly the DS2 DLCs had little areas you could summon people who didn't own the DLC for as a sneak peak, and frigid outskirts was that area for DLC3 which I find actually pretty hilarious.
1. Shadow tree (masterfully done, even beats out my beloved ds2 which says alot)
2. Ds2 trio (perfectly works with the themes of ds2 with adventuring long dead kingdoms for power, as well as a bunch of content with a remember-able boss fight in each one)
3. Old hunters (good story, characters, weapons, and atmosphere - just don’t do chalice dungeons before going in)
4. Ds1 + ds3 ring city (has some of the most important bosses in the entire series. Dark flame and dark bead cool, with patches storyline as lapp really cool)
5. Ashes of ariendel (valor heart probably one of my favorite weapons in the series, hopefully we eventually get another power-stance sword & shield weapon like this - dueling shields are awesome in their own right, just not what I’m specifically looking for)
Good list
I appreciate the inclusion of lore. I believe story is as important as gameplay when it comes to dlc quality.
malenia is not a sekiro boss. like objectively. people have put her in sekiro and she is WAY too slow.
exactly, just because she was originals lady tomoe doesn’t mean they didn’t completely redo her move set to work with Elden Ring. People just think they put a sekiro moveset in completely different type of game lmao
She’s a Sekiro boss, just like Tree Avatar and Omen Killer are DS1 bosses.
Welcome to the "this boss is hard and is in the wrong game because it remind me so" gang! We got Manus, Friede, DoH, Malenia and Pontiff.
@JoseViktor4099 can't wait for the next game to come out and people call consort from that game instead of elden ring lmfao
A scorching hot take: Ringed City is overrated
before you start doxing my location to send nukes, hear me out. Overrated doesn’t mean bad, it’s still one of the best experiences I’ve had with any video game BUT aside from first few minutes in dreg heap and ringed city, it’s all grey swamps that you speedrun. It’s beautiful locations are so underused it’s infuriating, two of the most breathtaking places are mostly in grey swamps. I wanted to walk on twisted towers and see more of the golden sun rays which the game gives me only few minutes to awe before sending me to the most unbearable, sloggish, enemy and projectile spamming flat surface
Gael is still the best bossfight in gaming history, Midir and demon prince are very good bossfights but without them, the dlc is too boring and samey. I definitely know all of you speedran the locations picking +3 rings and suppress any bad memory with how horrible most of the dlc locations were
that’s why I think SOTE is a better dlc, as it has both amazing bosses and good locations that are fun to explore (aside from finger ruins and most of the abyssal woods)
Bro thought people would lose their mind over a milk toast talk
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they do lose their minds when someone says that something they like isn’t perfect. Yeah I talk kinda cringe tho
@@thatlittlemonstrosity they don’t lose their mind when someone says something isn’t perfect, no one does, no one actually argues for 100 percent perfection, you’re fighting against a wall
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they do, I don’t know what vacuum you’re living in
@@thatlittlemonstrosity the vast vast majority of people do not argue for 100 percent perfection and acting like they do is insane, and again your take is the most common thing ever, everyone says that exact same thing about ring city, bosses are great, ring city should have been more explorable
7:00 never change Dark Souls... never change
The final boss of SotE is my third favorite of the DLC. I think he's fine and I don’t get what people's problem is.
I liked the story of shadow of the Erdtree mainly with how the diffrent npcs and quest intertwine at the end I wish there was more of a ending but I’m not that bothered by it as all the other dlcs more or less have endings like shadow of the Erdtree
True, all of the DLC ending are almost anticlimactic in that you accomplish something potentially incredible, yet almost no one will know the difference.
Kos returned to the ocean.
Miquella dies with his plans prevented.
You give Gaels Pigment to the painter which will eventually lead to a better world, which you will never see.
You kill Manus, yet Artorias gets all the credit.
I guess, the DS2 DLCs actually do the most in that it gives you another ending.
That's a good point, all DLCs sort of end this way. And honestly, I think lack of a proper ending kinda fits in SotE - Miquella's curse is likely inability to finish anything, so it fits thematically.
And this may be a hot take, but I think the final cutscene is good too, in a subtle, metaphorical way. I think it's supposed to show the mind of Miquella - that he doesn't think about anything else, any costs along the way, and doesn't consider Radahn's point of view, being only focused on his final goal.
Shadow of the Erdtree's bosses weren't my taste, I prefer Old Hunters and Ringed City, but I guess I would place Shadow of the Erdtree first place thank to the overall quality.
Lol, i felt you when you said you wished to see more of the Ringed City.
I still remember when a streamer was invited to an early preview of DS3 and they showed off Lothric Castle.
Then they said: "You see this entire giant city? You can explore all of it."
Now take a look at Lothric Castle yourself and try to tell me you indeed explore all of it.
Look i love the game, and there's so little wrong really with the content that's there.
But you REALLY could've put a side-path from the very first bonfire, one that goes beyond an elevator shortcut to Vordt and then a Puss of Man.
Every fromsoft opinion is quality ragebait
Old Hunters is never going to be beat :)
Already has been
Imagine they released Ashes of Ariandel and Ringed City as 1 DLC. It would've been goated ass dlc
I agree with pretty much everything, but I feel like I would swap the places of The ringed city and shadows of the erdtree. The fact that both the ringed city and the shadow of the erdtree are pretty much perfect for the games they're in is a testament to the insane quality of the devs and storywriters at FromSoft.
However the fact that one ends in by far the most epic battle between the last two remaining living things at the end of the world for a chance to claim the dark souls and the other one ends with a kinda unexpected return of a previous boss but without the horse and with holy stuff leading to a 20fps dodge fest is just disappointing.
I think that in time people will look back on Gael as a timeless classic boss and this will not be the case for Radahn.
Hey man, just discovered your channel a few days ago, keep it going !
3:10 Get comboed lmao
I hate corvian knights, love to see them get what they deserve.
1: The Old Hunters
2: Artorias of the Abyss
3: The Ringed City
4: Shadow of the Erdtree
5: Ashes of Ariandel
6-8 Crown of the (title) Kings
The criticism of ashes of ariandel is very valid, specifically the length- I genuinely think that if everything we saw was the opening half of exploring that land, but friede was placed much further back it would have a far higher rank
If there was a boss at the chapel at the end of the village instead of of the NPC fight, I think the DLC would be looked at much differently
If they just combined ashes and ringed city into 1 dlc like they initially planned to then it would of been easily the best dlc
I personally would go
3) old hunters
2) shadow of the erdtree
1) ringed city
Other than that I agree with everything else.
The gale fight caping off the trilogy of dark souls 1,2,&3. Sooo good.
Shadow of the erdtree is basically a whole new game. The end is weak, and the leveling system is flawed. But it’s an amazing dlc.
Guess I am the very small minority who actually like Frigid Outskirts.
A minority consisting of a single person. You lol
@@tehCostHD I've heard of others who enjoys it as well. So I'm at least one of five 🥳
I like scattered ruins briefly showing the path during snowstorms but there is nothing else to it really.
@@Ironica82 damn bruh 💀 you know some interesting people I guess
@@tehCostHD DS2 subreddit as well as a video response defending it that I did on another channel had some comments saying they enjoyed it (please note that enjoying it and thinking it is one of the best areas are two completely different things).
Brollo, I aint watch the vid yet but I wanted to shout you out as a YTer quickly becoming one of my favorites lol
All the ds2 DLC's are peak souls. Some of the best level design in the series, legendary bosses, amazing lore. I think as a whole the ds2 dlc's stand above every other game.
Yeah the DLCs are probably the best in terms of actual level design. So much variety and amazing puzzle design and looking in level design.
I say this with repect so dont hate but... the dlc or game is what it is. I feel so many people play soulsbourne game and only bash them with the excuse of poor design. Ive played though fromsoft's entire catalogue. Yes ive been frustrated/angry at times but if you have to break the game down on a meta level, you're not really playing the game are you?
Put Ivory Crown dlc below Ariandel and we're set. Although i agree about Ariandel being empty, atleast there's one boss that just defeats DS2 dlc bosses. But ivory crown dlc areas are just pain in the ass for me with slow DS2 movements. Ariandel also serves as Sulyvahn's birthplace which also tied to the most ruthless leader of all dark Souls. So yeah thats all my critique
Joke’s on you I actually agree with this list. The old hunters Id still rank it as #1 after sote.
Hey, it seems that you’ve forgot the Sekiro DLC that have perfectly complimented this well-polished yet slightly short game! Oh, yeah… right…
Edit : I remarked that you’ve made the same joke in your pinned comment only after posting mine.
I did indeed disagree
Ashes was pretty disgustingly short
Last time i checked someone got main menu bloodborne running on an emulator so it might not be too far off… not sure why sony is allergic to money tho
I assume they will release bloodborne remake as ps6 launch title
@@Brollo_ worst case scenario since it would most definitely be exclusive in that case
Freide was pretty a standard boss imo, don’t really see the hype
I felt like Scadutree fragmenst were the lazy way of balancing. Just one step away from a difficulty slider. Not my cup of tea. And Ringed city was a perfect ending to the whole series. Imo RC > SOTE, especially lorewise
Lowkey ds2 dlcs are the best out of all trillogy
I always thought of that as an opinion most agree with. Only SOTE surpasses it imo
can't disagree, you pretty much nailed it
Am i tripping or did you miss bloodborne?
I pretty much agree with all of this except u best play bloodbourne because it's still the best dlc and fromsoft game to me at least.
Same here bro
I think SotE tops Old Hunters.
@@AlexCatable recency bias. It would top the old hunters IF the ending was more conclusive and not anticlimactic and if the jagged peak and the coastal areas and the woods had more to them
@@simon-peterwilliamson2412 it's not a recency bias. It's simply the the size and quality of this expansion. Just open the map and look how many areas it has. The level design of the Shadow Lands with it's crazy verticality and sometimes maddening connectors between areas. It's lore and world building. Its bosses. It's atmosphere - I don't know what you meant by "Jagged peak could have more to it" for me it was the best area Froms ever did atmosphere wise. I literally turned back, tail between my legs the first time I attempted to climb it. Just because the scrubs of info I had on Bayle and the whole vibe of the place put too much pressure on me. It is an absolutely epic and sinister and overwhelming place, and the longest climb to it where the only enemies you meet on the way are dragons is the best build up imaginable to one of the best boss fights in series.
To be fair, I kinda agree with the recency bias guy. People pretend like Elden Ring is the best souls game, but 95% of those people haven't played the actual goat, Dark Souls 2. Elsen Ring lacks that glorious level design of Ds1 and Ds2 I love so much. If it wasn't an open world, I'm willing to bet I'd have liked it a lot more. Keep in mind that my personal score for Elden is like a 9.8/10.
would you like to do a room vlog 😅
For the gaming industry, i'd rate SOTE a 9/10, with 10/10s being perfection and nothing is perfect so yeah.
For Fromsoft however, i'd rate SOTE probably about 6/10. The issues i have with the main game are only exacerbated in the DLC and some boss choices are so odd.
Sekiro dlc is top 1 for me
İ miss this guys voice 😢
Ashes is just a boss fight, with a whole heap of boring, icy bloat. Imo, the dlc would be dramatically improved if it was literally just the boss fight hahahahah
Is that Loretta Sickl lol man From REALLY made ER a reskin of a game
The sound of your voice is too quiet
weird, I hear perfectly
Ngl i agree
agreed
Baylor is better then midir, Sue me
You will hear from my lawyer
Bloodborne bad. DS2 good
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Bloodborne would prolly be number 1
Ringed city >>>
Nah, SotE is the best DLC ever made.