I saw them in 2004 for the Greater Wrong of the Right tour, Jacksonville FL. What an experience. They threw the ashes of a fan who'd recently died all over the audience. I will never forget that. Thanks for these videos!
I’m not going to lie. I just found your channel and I was thrown off by your excitement and bouncing around for about 5 seconds until I realized you were doing SP and now I’m bouncing on my couch with my iPad watching this video with your front line assembly episode going on my TV 😬 I love it! Your energy excitement is that energy I get listening to puppy. I’ve tried to explain to my wife but she’s doesn’t get it. I say it’s like abstract art for the ears but she doesn’t get it. To be fair I guess it’s like me trying to sit threw an episode of “masked singer” or “glee” 😂 I just can’t do those hideous show’s! They literally drive anger and frustration out of my bones. Give me puppy songs like “dead lines” and I’m in ohgar vocal heaven. I will never forget going to Hollywood Palladium with my GF (at the time😬) and “Lucy in the sky” breath mints to see Too Dark Park. I’m so happy I found your RUclips channel. Thank you! I’d love to see you dive into using new gear vst’s with a bit more detail or step by step. Do you have a Roland V-synth in your studio? I have one and I have the vocal card but I’ve never dived into using it. Just wondering if you, know how cevin used it other then a midi controller
Thanks for doing these, Ken.. they're amazing. I checked - and there's good news and bad news. Good news: The Furman PQ3 still only goes for a few hundred bucks. Bad news: the 176 is a weeeee bit more expensive
Thank you boheme6!!! I had no idea the PQ3 was Dimebag's (R.I.P.) secret weapon until I started looking for one a couple of years ago! He made the original green face extremely rare! Thanks for sharing, cheers ;-) -hw
Ken, I LOVE how you absolutely Loved working with Skinny Puppy over the years. I've seen you at a few of the recent shows and you are SO into it! Just watching you in this video I can see just how excited you were (are) enjoying the challenge that oGre has presented for you live and knowing first hand that you knocked it out of the park at the shows! Much respect, and never lose that wonderful smile sir!
Wow Rennie, that's a wonderful compliment my friend, I appreciate it very much ;-)) I really do LOVE the tour experience...particularly SP! Next time we're out, PLEASE come say hi at FOH, I look forward to meeting you sir ;-)) Cheers to you! -hw
Ogre's voice is indeed very special 🖤😁 once you hear it, it changes your life ah ha. I don't know, but those little clips reminded me of Dada poetry, especially at the begining 🤔.
This is my very favorite RUclips channel ever. I use a different DAW (Reason, because I've been using it for many years), but I try to apply the techniques you teach to my own work. Thank you Ken!
Wow, DOOMDRIVER, thank you ;-)) I've heard GREAT things from Reason users...so awesome that you're able to apply some of these ideas! Thank you for sharing, I appreciate it, cheers! -hw
DOOMDRIVER: Reason is a really great DAW and it sounds amazing. I'm a Logic user, but I have an old iMac whose sole purpose is so I can rewire Thor and Redrum from Reason 5 into Logic 9 (they're both 32-bit). Some day I'll upgrade to the latest version of Reason, can't really afford it now.
Reason is great, @@russell_szabados! I love using Thor, but I'm more of a 'Kong guy' for drums. Love Redrum too, though. Also, I use a few VSTs such as the VacuumPro, and a Predator but I find that with tweaking (which is one of the fun parts) Thor, Subtractor, Maelstrom, and especially Europa get me the sounds I want. :)
It´s funny to know a name for so many years and then see the person and it looks nothing like you would expect. Ken could be something like any TV show presenter/reporter for the general masses on any popular topic.
Aww WTH youtube. I missed Ken's last 4 vids because they simply did not show up on my feed. I'm glad I checked to see what was going on with Ken's channel because I missed some good ones. Time to catch up. Excited for this one. Thanks Ken!
Thanks Ken you are an inspiration, your comments are of a great teaching I think that for all of us who follow you on your channel, I bought the Furman PQ3 green face now I only have to find the universal Audio 176 to have the combo that you mention. when you find it reasonably priced or maybe I buy another model I always like experiment
Ogre is one of my biggest vocal influences. I recently had someone come up to me and ask me what effects I use to get my vocals to sound the way I do. I use a noise gate to help with feedback, a compressor, maybe some slapback and a slight down pitch shift. He was of course referring to the sound of the vocal itself after clarifying to which I replied "That's just how my voice sounds".. I used to be really self conscious about it... now I just own it.
Thanks for sharing this. Ogre's vocal fx is something I've always tried to emulate and it's really neat to get some insight into how it was done. Really loving this whole series, really. Keep up the great work!
Thank you Jim, I appreciate your comment very much my friend ;-) These sessions are so much fun to make, and your comment is just pure inspiration to keep going, thank you again ;-))
I always wondred how it was done but didnt really care because his voice and skinny puppys music has changed my life for the greater good and i love it love it love it!!! THANK YOU!! tin omen!!!!!!
That's a cool trick I'm definitely gonna try. I've always been on the lookout for Ogre's vocal chain/techniques, thank you so much for giving us a taste.
Hi Ken, I subscribed to your channel over the summer and have been enjoying your content, but this video was really special. I bought my first Skinny Puppy record in 1987 and for years & years, it was almost impossible to get any kind of behind the scenes information about them. Thank you for sharing your experiences with them, I'm still a huge fan and really enjoy your perspective.
Amazing insight, dude! Those are some of my favourite vocal sounds ever! You've been an inspiration for as long as I can remember. Thank you putting out content of this calibre!
Wow Comaduster, THANK YOU ;-)) Your comment is straight up INSPIRATION, and I appreciate it big time! So many awesome sessions to share...here we go ;-) Cheers! -hw
This is great! Fellow engineer/mixer here and lifelong Skinny Puppy fan! I’ve been to a few SP shows and have heard this distortion through FOH! So cool of you to share how you came up with that sound. Cheers from Michigan🤘🏽
Just found this channel today. LOVING the content, super informative. Some of my favourite bands and effects I love to play with in my own production - hearing exactly which gear was used with "Last Rites" and "Too Dark Park" is super exciting for me. Thanks!
Yes. In many chains EQ is first instance. Like pedals in front of guitar amps. In most cases the effect or EQ is placed before hitting the amp distortion. I will try that with vocals too. There are fantastically analog distorting sounding VSTs from Tone Empire. I'll try my best to mimic the advice of this video :)
Thank you Sebastian, and great idea in front of synths for sure!!! It was years ago when I went to look for a used PQ3 that I realized Dimebag (RIP) made it famous by inserting in front of his rig. Boom, he made that original green face RARE haha! cEvin reminded me how many times we used those on drums too ;-)) I appreciate you sharing Sebastian, thanks again! Cheers, -hw
@@hiwattmarshall LocNess is a brutal and analogish sounding crush box with awesome analogish sounding hi and low shelf filters and you can go into total great sounding distortion too. Black Q is principally an analogish EQ but has tube drive modes and can sound very close to hardware too. I think they are both great. Have fun :)
My friend owns a studio in Oregon, Fremont Recording, and I'm fairly certain he owns one if those Universal Audio amplifiers. He got really into Reel to Reel tape recording and last time I was there I think I saw one of those. Edit: I think that Vocoder you are talking about is the same one Tobacco uses in Black Moth Super Rainbow. So this all the vocoded effects during Warlock are live? I always assumed it was just a track playing, wow that's cool.
Thanks for sharing that Ken! I was quite impressed with Ogre's vocal sound during the soundcheck in The Hague a couple years back when I was helping out the Databomb set up Cev's rig. Just found a warp factory for cheap and I can't wait to give this a try!
+Ken Marshall Thank you SO much for posting these ! I've been looking for a good Skinny Puppy - industrial style vocal FX tutorial for YEARS now. Any chance you could do one on Al Jourgensen from Ministry ?
Thanks Love the behind the music, I remember buying album because your name was on it. Pretty sure if I saw remix by hiwatt, It was a must have. Any history on Numb - Wasted Sky album?
Thank you Wyatt Turner, I appreciate that my friend ;-) What a GREAT idea!!! Definitely have to share how we made 'Wasted Sky'...there's a fun story there for sure! OK Wyatt, I've just made notes in my 'session book' haha, NICE ;-)) Sure appreciate your inquiry into Numb...love those records!!! Thanks again and cheers!!! -hw
@@hiwattmarshall yeah man that album sits high on my list of favorites. It probably help me dig further into this type of music, along with Skinny Puppy, FLA and so on. Really like what your doing with your channel. It's helpful info for my own creative endeavor. Love your passion and energy here.
@@hiwattmarshall I'd love to hear about that recording too! Numb is just mind-blowing, even 20+ years later. (By chance, the new album just arrived in the mail today!) Also, not sure how youtube recommended this, but I'm glad! Remember first seeing your name on the Rodent (DDT Mix) years ago, and popping up again and again. So cool to hear these stories!
It’s great to hear about the Furman/UA combo for vocals. Around that same time Al Jorgensen used a dbx 160/H3000 combo for Ministry’s distorted vocals. Different hardware, same principles. Both with great results. Although ohGr was born blessed with an amazing voice and the gear only brings out what’s already incredible. He could easily be a Grammy winning voice over actor for movies and video games.
Great stuff, I still have my two blackface PQ-3’s, an N.E.I. 341 4 band, Ashley Blueface SC-66, BSS DPR-901, all great eq’s for exrteme mangling. Great to know about the Warp Factory, I’ve always ignored them, now I want one, haha.
Could listen to you for hours. Thank you :) I think one cannot have enough tools and units to bring saturation and distortion to mixes. Lately I'm experimenting - beside the usual suspects like Saturn, Spectre or Subvert - much with stomp pedal and amp and cabinet emulations too. I found very good and authentic non digital sounding plugins from Neural DSP and Mercuriall. I still got the Yamaha SPX-90, which has very nasty distortion programs too. Cheers.
Wow nichttuntun, thank you for that ;-)) SPX-90?!?!?...A W E S O M E N E S S !!!!! You just brought back so many great memories...the SPX-90 had some amazing sounding programs for sure. Plus it made a TON of noise lmao...loved those units! Thanks for sharing my friend, I appreciate it very much, cheers! -hw
@@hiwattmarshall Glad, you had some good thoughts about the old times. Skinny Puppy and Severed Heads as well as the Einstürzende Neubauten where the main inspiration back than for me to start with buying the Emu EMAX II Sampler (still have it) early 90th :) Those where great times. Cheers (Matthias)
if i were to have the equipment you've cited, I would donate it to the Scaremeister museum, with a "On Permanent Loan" clause attached, and have it sent to your studio. Just sayin'. what an amazing tapestry of colors you wove for Too Dark Park and Last Rights. Now, about those files you mentioned... =)
This makes me think about what I do with my audio chain for my Korg "volca sample". I put it through my Behringer "sf-300" superfuzz, which has the option to do a clean boost. I switch that in and slam the input gain where it's not quite distorted? But incredibly compressed and upfront!🎹🎧💫😵😎👌
Fantastic channel, I just watched a few of them. My god this is bliss! Loved growing up on Skinny Puppy, grew up in the 2000s so I loved hearing early SP. What synths, samplers were the most important while recording? If you don’t mind me asking, I know they’ve used a lot! Once again amazing channel!
Another great video! Loving the SP content, my favorite band. This is all so inspiring to me, an aspiring songwriter, producer, etc. Keep it up, Ken! You rock ^^
That electrix warpfactory trick is pretty frickin' nifty. Used to see them everywhere for cheap, wonder if there's gonna be an inflation now. haha. While I love DBlue Glitch for distorting/trashing RMX loops (using a variety of the built in freq cuts) I found Turnado works quite well on vocals. Having a small device that could run it would be even better, replacing a laptop/interface. It has a governor that can be adjusted and several effects shifted up/down mapped to a midi CC#.
Maschinestorm such awesome stuff here, thank you! I appreciate you sharing my friend, it totally inspires more of the same ;-)) Your process sounds pretty cool, and yes...those little Electrix units were unreal, I think I got all 3 for under 200 bones each back in the day. I should have got em all lol, those little half-rack eq killers were just that ;-)) Cheers to you, -hw
I am good at pattern recognition. Seems like I heard Peter Murphy/Bauhaus chant or recite something that Ogre just did. Was that some famous line in Klingon or something?
Does anyone else use that Warp Factory vocoder? I love it's internal oscillator! Though I'm trying to play it over midi chromaticly...but it seems like you would have to custom map each key to the correct midi cc...? If anyone has insight...I would love it.
Hey, Ken.. Nice to see these. I'm a die-hard Hiwatt fan, for decades. Quick question; did your mother live in Taos, New Mexico USA about 16 years ago? Haha, thanks. Be blessed. :)
For many years I wondered how all of those delays and stutters were happening live. I'm guessing one of the engineers are controlling that kaoss pad offstage? I know Ogre occasionally had some unit on stage but not on some tours.
I have no use for these informations, but I watched this whole video, and enjoyed it, because that's so pleasant to listen to/watching you teaching us the TrickS (see what I did there ;D ) of this job !
Ken, could you do a video on how you artistically and technically bridge the gap between a studio recorded songs and a live performance of those songs? During the creation of a song, is there any thought about how to perform it live later? Do you have recording/ creation methods in place to bring it out of the studio? do you aim to 100% recreation or artistic variation? Does that matter to you or the audience? Love your channel, keep it coming!
Enduro thank you, thank you, and more thank you ;-) I just happened upon your post, and I’m scrambling for my hiwattSOUNDbites book!!! I can’t thank you enough for engaging here my friend, I PROMISE to do your session Enduro...stay tuned and stay safe 😊 hw
Thanks again man. Loving the videos so much. Are you familiar with a company called Overstayer? They have a unit called the Modular Channel. I recently picked one up and holy jesus....... It's hand built, all analog preamp, filter, saturation, eq, compressor, distortion, limiter. It's not cheap, but worth every cent. Cheers
Ken, do you have any recommendations for a more modern or readily available vocoder to achieve this sound? Have been keeping any eye on Ebay but no luck. Thanks much for your lessons
For live vocals, I'm very loud, and I'm sending a compressed signal into 4 pitch shifters, then into a distortion unit, then have everything gated pretty hard. (Then into the master reverb bus, like you do) I've heard from live sound guys that gating vocals live to deal with feedback is generally bad practice, because your voice naturally gets quieter as the show progresses. How do you feel about gating in love settings?
I've got a Warp Factory but I find it to have a bit of static feedback when I use it. It's subtle but not clean for sure. This happens on the vocoder function as well as the others.
Kevin, I’ve heard a lot of other users have had similar issues, noise, etc. I must admit that I’m thoroughly impressed with the sound, and noise floor of all three of my Electrix units! Are you wiring your Warpfactory with balanced input/output? I’ve got my three units connected back to my patchbay, balanced, and normalled from one to another, and they sound really clean 🤟🏼. It’s absolutely possible your unit is acting up, and based on how much I still use my own…I will always recommend having it serviced 😆🙏. Thanks for sharing Kevin, it’s a big deal 🙏 Stay safe! -hw
@@hiwattmarshall Thanks for getting back to me. I have been using all balanced cables. I come out of my interface into the formant. Then run the Left out to my API 512 and back to my DAW. Everything is either TRS XLR or a combination of the two. I use an external keyboard in the source left. I use a TS instrument cable hear. Should I use balanced here instead. Hmmmm. Maybe I'll have it looked at if I can't solve it.
Ableton Live's vocoder is fantastic for this effect, as it has an inbuilt noise generator and formant control. Layering vocals with it and SoundToys Little Altar Boy makes for some really psychedelic effects. Throw Melodyne in the mix, and Waves Tune controlled by a midi keyboard controller and it goes even FURTHER.
kevin vekni YES!!! Thank you for sharing my friend ;-) I should have shared more about his actual vocal sound, cause I swear...in addition to having a HUGE full bottom range, it’s like Ogre has an internal combustion chamber lol. What a FULL range sound he’s developed, all this chesty bottom and an unreal air on top...an engineer’s dream ;-) Cheers to you, -hw
@@hiwattmarshall Thanks so much for this series and for sharing your talent. Keep the uploads coming. Informative as well as entertaining and inspiring. Cheers to YOU!
I just realized this is literally the first time I've ever watched an audio production video about music I actually like.
I see Skinny Puppy I click.
Thanks Ken for the video.
Mike Hydropneumatic that’s AWESOME, thank you my friend ;-) Cheers to you, -hw
@@hiwattmarshall You can't have enough Skinny Puppy and Kraftwerk :)
I agree.
@@mikehydropneumatic2583 I agree!
I saw them in 2004 for the Greater Wrong of the Right tour, Jacksonville FL. What an experience. They threw the ashes of a fan who'd recently died all over the audience. I will never forget that. Thanks for these videos!
I have been a Skinny Puppy fan since 1986. So glad I found your channel. Thanx Ken. Cheers
I’m not going to lie. I just found your channel and I was thrown off by your excitement and bouncing around for about 5 seconds until I realized you were doing SP and now I’m bouncing on my couch with my iPad watching this video with your front line assembly episode going on my TV 😬 I love it! Your energy excitement is that energy I get listening to puppy. I’ve tried to explain to my wife but she’s doesn’t get it. I say it’s like abstract art for the ears but she doesn’t get it. To be fair I guess it’s like me trying to sit threw an episode of “masked singer” or “glee” 😂 I just can’t do those hideous show’s! They literally drive anger and frustration out of my bones. Give me puppy songs like “dead lines” and I’m in ohgar vocal heaven. I will never forget going to Hollywood Palladium with my GF (at the time😬) and “Lucy in the sky” breath mints to see Too Dark Park. I’m so happy I found your RUclips channel. Thank you! I’d love to see you dive into using new gear vst’s with a bit more detail or step by step. Do you have a Roland V-synth in your studio? I have one and I have the vocal card but I’ve never dived into using it. Just wondering if you, know how cevin used it other then a midi controller
Thanks for doing these, Ken.. they're amazing.
I checked - and there's good news and bad news.
Good news: The Furman PQ3 still only goes for a few hundred bucks.
Bad news: the 176 is a weeeee bit more expensive
Thank you boheme6!!! I had no idea the PQ3 was Dimebag's (R.I.P.) secret weapon until I started looking for one a couple of years ago! He made the original green face extremely rare! Thanks for sharing, cheers ;-) -hw
Ken, I LOVE how you absolutely Loved working with Skinny Puppy over the years. I've seen you at a few of the recent shows and you are SO into it!
Just watching you in this video I can see just how excited you were (are) enjoying the challenge that oGre has presented for you live and knowing first hand that you knocked it out of the park at the shows!
Much respect, and never lose that wonderful smile sir!
Wow Rennie, that's a wonderful compliment my friend, I appreciate it very much ;-)) I really do LOVE the tour experience...particularly SP! Next time we're out, PLEASE come say hi at FOH, I look forward to meeting you sir ;-))
Cheers to you! -hw
I saw them in SF for the TooDarkPark tour, yes it sounded amazing
Ogre's voice is indeed very special 🖤😁 once you hear it, it changes your life ah ha.
I don't know, but those little clips reminded me of Dada poetry, especially at the begining 🤔.
Or speaking in tongues like a Baptist Minister
This is my very favorite RUclips channel ever. I use a different DAW (Reason, because I've been using it for many years), but I try to apply the techniques you teach to my own work. Thank you Ken!
Wow, DOOMDRIVER, thank you ;-)) I've heard GREAT things from Reason users...so awesome that you're able to apply some of these ideas! Thank you for sharing, I appreciate it, cheers! -hw
Cheers back, @@hiwattmarshall! Thanks for the reply. :))
DOOMDRIVER: Reason is a really great DAW and it sounds amazing. I'm a Logic user, but I have an old iMac whose sole purpose is so I can rewire Thor and Redrum from Reason 5 into Logic 9 (they're both 32-bit). Some day I'll upgrade to the latest version of Reason, can't really afford it now.
Reason is great, @@russell_szabados! I love using Thor, but I'm more of a 'Kong guy' for drums. Love Redrum too, though. Also, I use a few VSTs such as the VacuumPro, and a Predator but I find that with tweaking (which is one of the fun parts) Thor, Subtractor, Maelstrom, and especially Europa get me the sounds I want. :)
I am SO nerding out right now OMG THIS RULES 🖤🖤🖤
It´s funny to know a name for so many years and then see the person and it looks nothing like you would expect. Ken could be something like any TV show presenter/reporter for the general masses on any popular topic.
Ken, I love your energy! You must be great to have in the studio! Keep making these videos. Very entertaining! You have a gift!
Aww WTH youtube. I missed Ken's last 4 vids because they simply did not show up on my feed. I'm glad I checked to see what was going on with Ken's channel because I missed some good ones. Time to catch up. Excited for this one. Thanks Ken!
Thanks Ken you are an inspiration, your comments are of a great teaching I think that for all of us who follow you on your channel, I bought the Furman PQ3 green face now I only have to find the universal Audio 176 to have the combo that you mention. when you find it reasonably priced or maybe I buy another model I always like experiment
Ogre is one of my biggest vocal influences. I recently had someone come up to me and ask me what effects I use to get my vocals to sound the way I do. I use a noise gate to help with feedback, a compressor, maybe some slapback and a slight down pitch shift. He was of course referring to the sound of the vocal itself after clarifying to which I replied "That's just how my voice sounds"..
I used to be really self conscious about it... now I just own it.
Thanks for sharing this. Ogre's vocal fx is something I've always tried to emulate and it's really neat to get some insight into how it was done. Really loving this whole series, really. Keep up the great work!
Thank you Jim, I appreciate your comment very much my friend ;-) These sessions are so much fun to make, and your comment is just pure inspiration to keep going, thank you again ;-))
I always wondred how it was done but didnt really care because his voice and skinny puppys music has changed my life for the greater good and i love it love it love it!!! THANK YOU!! tin omen!!!!!!
This is something I was curious about ever since I first heard Skinny Puppy.
I was at that gig.Totally awesome!!!
That's a cool trick I'm definitely gonna try. I've always been on the lookout for Ogre's vocal chain/techniques, thank you so much for giving us a taste.
ok i like how much you're invested in sharing your experience
Yes yes yes yes yes!!!! Awesome vid!!! 🤘🏻🤘🏻⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
This is GREAT!!! Thank you posting these!!
Hi Ken, I subscribed to your channel over the summer and have been enjoying your content, but this video was really special. I bought my first Skinny Puppy record in 1987 and for years & years, it was almost impossible to get any kind of behind the scenes information about them. Thank you for sharing your experiences with them, I'm still a huge fan and really enjoy your perspective.
Amazing insight, dude! Those are some of my favourite vocal sounds ever! You've been an inspiration for as long as I can remember. Thank you putting out content of this calibre!
Wow Comaduster, THANK YOU ;-)) Your comment is straight up INSPIRATION, and I appreciate it big time!
So many awesome sessions to share...here we go ;-) Cheers! -hw
This is great! Fellow engineer/mixer here and lifelong Skinny Puppy fan! I’ve been to a few SP shows and have heard this distortion through FOH! So cool of you to share how you came up with that sound. Cheers from Michigan🤘🏽
Absolutely awesome and brilliant! Love Skinny Puppy... the best!
Just found this channel today. LOVING the content, super informative. Some of my favourite bands and effects I love to play with in my own production - hearing exactly which gear was used with "Last Rites" and "Too Dark Park" is super exciting for me. Thanks!
Thank you. These moments are inspiring.
Thank you so much for the videos. Love to see some more video clips or outtakes!
Love this channel. Such inspiring techniques and examples. Great energy, too. Cheers.
Thank you Mountain Mirrors, so awesome of you to share ;-) Good day my friend and Cheers! -hw
Best. RUclips channel. Ever.
Sweet. One of my fave tricks for vocals or synths even. Putting an EQ pre distortion and go to town. Cool to see how it was done. Killer video!
Yes. In many chains EQ is first instance. Like pedals in front of guitar amps. In most cases the effect or EQ is placed before hitting the amp distortion. I will try that with vocals too. There are fantastically analog distorting sounding VSTs from Tone Empire. I'll try my best to mimic the advice of this video :)
Thank you Sebastian, and great idea in front of synths for sure!!! It was years ago when I went to look for a used PQ3 that I realized Dimebag (RIP) made it famous by inserting in front of his rig. Boom, he made that original green face RARE haha!
cEvin reminded me how many times we used those on drums too ;-)) I appreciate you sharing Sebastian, thanks again!
Cheers, -hw
Thanks @@nichttuntun3364, I gotta go check out Tone Empire now ;-) cheers! -hw
@@hiwattmarshall
LocNess is a brutal and analogish sounding crush box with awesome analogish sounding hi and low shelf filters and you can go into total great sounding distortion too. Black Q is principally an analogish EQ but has tube drive modes and can sound very close to hardware too. I think they are both great. Have fun :)
nichttuntun THANK YOU for sharing such awesomeness here, it inspires more of the same and we LOVE that!!! Cheers to you my friend;-) -hw
My friend owns a studio in Oregon, Fremont Recording, and I'm fairly certain he owns one if those Universal Audio amplifiers. He got really into Reel to Reel tape recording and last time I was there I think I saw one of those.
Edit:
I think that Vocoder you are talking about is the same one Tobacco uses in Black Moth Super Rainbow.
So this all the vocoded effects during Warlock are live? I always assumed it was just a track playing, wow that's cool.
Thanks for sharing that Ken! I was quite impressed with Ogre's vocal sound during the soundcheck in The Hague a couple years back when I was helping out the Databomb set up Cev's rig. Just found a warp factory for cheap and I can't wait to give this a try!
Ogre has the coolest sounding voice. Awesome production tips, thanks Ken.
Please do a breakdown on some of the more aggressive earlier SP effects, especially Rabies era such as the vocals on Tin Omen
+Ken Marshall Thank you SO much for posting these ! I've been looking for a good Skinny Puppy - industrial style vocal FX tutorial for YEARS now. Any chance you could do one on Al Jourgensen from Ministry ?
Thanks Love the behind the music, I remember buying album because your name was on it. Pretty sure if I saw remix by hiwatt, It was a must have. Any history on Numb - Wasted Sky album?
Thank you Wyatt Turner, I appreciate that my friend ;-) What a GREAT idea!!! Definitely have to share how we made 'Wasted Sky'...there's a fun story there for sure! OK Wyatt, I've just made notes in my 'session book' haha, NICE ;-))
Sure appreciate your inquiry into Numb...love those records!!! Thanks again and cheers!!! -hw
@@hiwattmarshall yeah man that album sits high on my list of favorites. It probably help me dig further into this type of music, along with Skinny Puppy, FLA and so on. Really like what your doing with your channel. It's helpful info for my own creative endeavor. Love your passion and energy here.
@@hiwattmarshall I'd love to hear about that recording too! Numb is just mind-blowing, even 20+ years later. (By chance, the new album just arrived in the mail today!) Also, not sure how youtube recommended this, but I'm glad! Remember first seeing your name on the Rodent (DDT Mix) years ago, and popping up again and again. So cool to hear these stories!
It’s great to hear about the Furman/UA combo for vocals. Around that same time Al Jorgensen used a dbx 160/H3000 combo for Ministry’s distorted vocals. Different hardware, same principles. Both with great results. Although ohGr was born blessed with an amazing voice and the gear only brings out what’s already incredible. He could easily be a Grammy winning voice over actor for movies and video games.
You have a dream job. That is for sure.
Great stuff, I still have my two blackface PQ-3’s, an N.E.I. 341 4 band, Ashley Blueface SC-66, BSS DPR-901, all great eq’s for exrteme mangling. Great to know about the Warp Factory, I’ve always ignored them, now I want one, haha.
Thank you very much for this great video, Ken!!
Holy crapoly Ken... Best music production yt channel by far!!! Thank you for these! Keep killin it please :)
Oh man your lessons are so inspirational! I'm on vacation in Europe and now I can't wait to get back to my studio!
Best channel ever. Thanks for making this videos, Ken!
Stanislav Zalevskyi thank you for that!!! These sessions are blast, so many subjects to share my friend ;-) Cheers to you, -hw
Could listen to you for hours. Thank you :)
I think one cannot have enough tools and units to bring saturation and distortion to mixes. Lately I'm experimenting - beside the usual suspects like Saturn, Spectre or Subvert - much with stomp pedal and amp and cabinet emulations too. I found very good and authentic non digital sounding plugins from Neural DSP and Mercuriall. I still got the Yamaha SPX-90, which has very nasty distortion programs too. Cheers.
Wow nichttuntun, thank you for that ;-)) SPX-90?!?!?...A W E S O M E N E S S !!!!! You just brought back so many great memories...the SPX-90 had some amazing sounding programs for sure. Plus it made a TON of noise lmao...loved those units! Thanks for sharing my friend, I appreciate it very much, cheers! -hw
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You're very welcome :)
@@hiwattmarshall Glad, you had some good thoughts about the old times. Skinny Puppy and Severed Heads as well as the Einstürzende Neubauten where the main inspiration back than for me to start with buying the Emu EMAX II Sampler (still have it) early 90th :)
Those where great times. Cheers (Matthias)
God, I love getting to peek onto your genius here. Thanks again for starting this channel!
Raphael Fiedler Thank you, such inspiring words my friend;-)) These sessions are a blast, I really appreciate you engaging Raphael, cheers to you! -hw
if i were to have the equipment you've cited, I would donate it to the Scaremeister museum, with a "On Permanent Loan" clause attached, and have it sent to your studio. Just sayin'. what an amazing tapestry of colors you wove for Too Dark Park and Last Rights. Now, about those files you mentioned... =)
This makes me think about what I do with my audio chain for my Korg "volca sample". I put it through my Behringer "sf-300" superfuzz, which has the option to do a clean boost. I switch that in and slam the input gain where it's not quite distorted? But incredibly compressed and upfront!🎹🎧💫😵😎👌
Yo! How does Hiwatt still look so good? I'm guessing sorcery.
That was awesome! Thanks Ken!!!
this is absolutely engrossing.
Megageil!!! Awesome. 👍
Fantastic channel, I just watched a few of them. My god this is bliss! Loved growing up on Skinny Puppy, grew up in the 2000s so I loved hearing early SP.
What synths, samplers were the most important while recording? If you don’t mind me asking, I know they’ve used a lot!
Once again amazing channel!
Gothenburg! 🖤 I was there!
Whohooo johan, Brewhouse!!! One of the best local crews I've ever worked with...brilliant!!! Thank you for sharing my friend, cheers! -hw
I been using a ds-1 with a chorus pedal and some gate on my vocals for 20 years now
Another great video! Loving the SP content, my favorite band. This is all so inspiring to me, an aspiring songwriter, producer, etc. Keep it up, Ken! You rock ^^
korqatt Thank you my friend, I can hear your enthusiasm and it’s absolutely inspiring...YoU rOcK!!! Cheers, -hw
Hey Ken, Loving these videos and learning a lot. How about videos on favorite synth tricks? Tour stories?
Thanks for the insight! Such a cool technique!
RobNickel001 Thank you ;-)) It was an awesome ‘accident’ for sure my friend! Cheers, -hw
Ken, have you seen the Retro Instruments remake of the 176? Supposed to be identical.
Awesome session! Thanks!
That electrix warpfactory trick is pretty frickin' nifty. Used to see them everywhere for cheap, wonder if there's gonna be an inflation now. haha. While I love DBlue Glitch for distorting/trashing RMX loops (using a variety of the built in freq cuts) I found Turnado works quite well on vocals. Having a small device that could run it would be even better, replacing a laptop/interface. It has a governor that can be adjusted and several effects shifted up/down mapped to a midi CC#.
Maschinestorm such awesome stuff here, thank you! I appreciate you sharing my friend, it totally inspires more of the same ;-))
Your process sounds pretty cool, and yes...those little Electrix units were unreal, I think I got all 3 for under 200 bones each back in the day. I should have got em all lol, those little half-rack eq killers were just that ;-)) Cheers to you, -hw
Thank you very much again!
Thanks Ken! Been waiting for this exact video :)
I am good at pattern recognition. Seems like I heard Peter Murphy/Bauhaus chant or recite something that Ogre just did.
Was that some famous line in Klingon or something?
Does anyone else use that Warp Factory vocoder?
I love it's internal oscillator!
Though I'm trying to play it over midi chromaticly...but it seems like you would have to custom map each key to the correct midi cc...?
If anyone has insight...I would love it.
Hey, Ken.. Nice to see these. I'm a die-hard Hiwatt fan, for decades. Quick question; did your mother live in Taos, New Mexico USA about 16 years ago? Haha, thanks. Be blessed. :)
I love the Electrix Warp Factory, Sadly I've never had chance to own one
3:44 haunted coffee mug
Hilarious Vaporwave, it's like theres a magnet underneath ;-) Stop-motion chai lol!
Have a great day, cheers! -hw
Thank you for this video!
For many years I wondered how all of those delays and stutters were happening live. I'm guessing one of the engineers are controlling that kaoss pad offstage? I know Ogre occasionally had some unit on stage but not on some tours.
I have no use for these informations, but I watched this whole video, and enjoyed it, because that's so pleasant to listen to/watching you teaching us the TrickS (see what I did there ;D ) of this job !
Ken, could you do a video on how you artistically and technically bridge the gap between a studio recorded songs and a live performance of those songs? During the creation of a song, is there any thought about how to perform it live later? Do you have recording/ creation methods in place to bring it out of the studio? do you aim to 100% recreation or artistic variation? Does that matter to you or the audience?
Love your channel, keep it coming!
Enduro thank you, thank you, and more thank you ;-) I just happened upon your post, and I’m scrambling for my hiwattSOUNDbites book!!! I can’t thank you enough for engaging here my friend, I PROMISE to do your session Enduro...stay tuned and stay safe 😊 hw
Pushing your own envelope
Pun intended
That voice. It sounds very Evil Dead-esque.
Thanks again man. Loving the videos so much. Are you familiar with a company called Overstayer? They have a unit called the Modular Channel. I recently picked one up and holy jesus....... It's hand built, all analog preamp, filter, saturation, eq, compressor, distortion, limiter. It's not cheap, but worth every cent. Cheers
Ken, do you have any recommendations for a more modern or readily available vocoder to achieve this sound? Have been keeping any eye on Ebay but no luck. Thanks much for your lessons
Just wanted to say thank you
Holy shit! June 13th is my birthday!😅👌👍
Omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg...
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Frozen Charlottes THANK YOU!!! What an awesome comment...pure inspiration ;-)) Cheers to you, -hw
For live vocals, I'm very loud, and I'm sending a compressed signal into 4 pitch shifters, then into a distortion unit, then have everything gated pretty hard. (Then into the master reverb bus, like you do)
I've heard from live sound guys that gating vocals live to deal with feedback is generally bad practice, because your voice naturally gets quieter as the show progresses.
How do you feel about gating in love settings?
I've got a Warp Factory but I find it to have a bit of static feedback when I use it. It's subtle but not clean for sure. This happens on the vocoder function as well as the others.
Kevin, I’ve heard a lot of other users have had similar issues, noise, etc. I must admit that I’m thoroughly impressed with the sound, and noise floor of all three of my Electrix units! Are you wiring your Warpfactory with balanced input/output? I’ve got my three units connected back to my patchbay, balanced, and normalled from one to another, and they sound really clean 🤟🏼. It’s absolutely possible your unit is acting up, and based on how much I still use my own…I will always recommend having it serviced 😆🙏. Thanks for sharing Kevin, it’s a big deal 🙏
Stay safe!
-hw
@@hiwattmarshall Thanks for getting back to me. I have been using all balanced cables. I come out of my interface into the formant. Then run the Left out to my API 512 and back to my DAW. Everything is either TRS XLR or a combination of the two. I use an external keyboard in the source left. I use a TS instrument cable hear. Should I use balanced here instead. Hmmmm. Maybe I'll have it looked at if I can't solve it.
Ohgr speaking Italian? "that's ah gooda Killin gameh!"
I always figured Ogre's vocals using an old Eventide H910
Any luck live with the filter factory?
Ableton Live's vocoder is fantastic for this effect, as it has an inbuilt noise generator and formant control. Layering vocals with it and SoundToys Little Altar Boy makes for some really psychedelic effects. Throw Melodyne in the mix, and Waves Tune controlled by a midi keyboard controller and it goes even FURTHER.
Thanks for making these videos, some have been very informative and others have confirmed some of my own processes!
noticed the mug teleporting with the jump cuts and now its all i can focus on lol
sky willis dang it, now that’s all I’m focusing on! 😂
sky willis me too lmao!!! You guys are awesome, thanks for reporting this phenomugnon ;-)
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F-ing Brilliant!!!!!
It's true. Ogre is a powerhouse.
kevin vekni YES!!! Thank you for sharing my friend ;-) I should have shared more about his actual vocal sound, cause I swear...in addition to having a HUGE full bottom range, it’s like Ogre has an internal combustion chamber lol. What a FULL range sound he’s developed, all this chesty bottom and an unreal air on top...an engineer’s dream ;-) Cheers to you, -hw
@@hiwattmarshall Thanks so much for this series and for sharing your talent. Keep the uploads coming. Informative as well as entertaining and inspiring. Cheers to YOU!
Ah someone from the engineer guys who talks about cool music for a change :)
Are you using an ESD armband? Or is it the mic cord? =)
Pretty sure Ogre is summoning something around the 7 min mark...
Which mic pre were you using before these Fuman abs UA? Was it just a pre on the board or something else?
Saludos desde México 😉
“The Dragon Experience” 🐉
I like Skinny Puppy but I have no idea what this guy was talking about. Sounds good to me, though.
Is he talking latin? That would be sick to add that to some SP material.
Was my first impression too. Maybe Italian?
M M that’s a great question...I’ve always referred to it as ‘GarbleVoice’ haha. Can anyone confirm either?!?! Thank you for sharing ;-)).
Cheers, -hw
No, it is neither Italian nor Latin, perhaps Greek
@@Surplice sounded to hard for Greek to my ears. But perhaps maybe he pronounces it like that. Will we ever know? :) cheers
I had one of those vocoders and I sold it because I didn't understand how to use it. Mistake.