We're Running Out of Sand to Make CPUs
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Sand is an incredibly important material for lots of different products...including CPUs! But are we running out of this precious resource?
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Turns out the Spice in _Dune_ was a metaphor not for oil, but for high quality sand all along.
Ironic considering the amount of sand on Dune.
@@bujin5455but have you seen some people's spice consumption? Those blue eyes aren't normal...
@@Hebdomad7 intel inside
@@missonserchhahahaha that's good
@@missonserch *Intel_Theme_Song.mp3 starts playing*
I love it -- first "Glass cpus are a thing!", and then immediately "oh btw we are running out of sand"
exactly lol
They're waaaaay behind the sand news, btw. Warnings about it were already public around 2019, if I remember correctly. What resulted was accelerated research on synthetic silica and its applications.
The why promote the use of glass in your new video? We are running out of sand and there is a deadly black market of sand glass cpus will only make this worse.
@@greengamerguy623It's not a promotion. It's tech news. It could be very cool in certain applications.
@@greengamerguy623What?
We MUST protect the vintage CPU's from gold scrappers and Tusken Raiders...
exactly, every time I scare them off easily they always come back and in greater numbers.
Damn, Sand People! 😤
@@V4Now 🤣🤣🤣
Tusken raider noises
I don't like sand.
This sounds like my dad when hes talking about Jews and Arabs.
You guys, we just need to find the End Portal and use the duping trick before Mojang patches it.
I was thinking about that exact comment.
Almost forgot about it
How long will it take until someone finds a duplication bug IRL?
Never mind, Intel already figured it out (14th gen).
Truly a 2b2t moment
smart
We need to make a intergalactic space empire and exploit all the resources from other planets
Stellaris moment
Then we would have to monitor total mass taken onworld and balance it by jettisoning worthless crap toward the sun.
Dead Space moment 😂😂
importing sand from other planets would make electronics very expensive
@@minneelyyyy8923 Yes but imagine importing purple spice from terrascore 3 planets
I wonder what kind of sand the sandman uses to make us sleepy.
Ordinary sand in a canvas bag. Just don't take it out of the bag. Job done.
silicon dioxide? It has inflammatory properties, could make you sleepy as your body prepares to fight its effects?
Speaking of which, a major villain in this crisis must be Germany. They have been making new Sandmännchen episodes every day for over 60 years, and at the end of each episode Sandmann throws "sleeping" sand towards the camera/TV screen to make the children fall asleep. This is a huge waste of resources!
Chloroform.
"POCKET SAND"
-Dale Gribble
Recycling glass used to be a standard thing in my hometown, until they pushed back and stated they'd take no more glass, just other things. I gather it was just no longer profitable to them. If such is to continue in the future, some sort of value needs to be established (not necessarily cash, perhaps some other barter) to make it worthwhile in that portion of the economy.
You don't use a deposit system? We have a legally required deposit system on almost all bottles, which gets added to the price of the product and then paid back when the bottle is returned.
What country? In most places in the US there is literally "trash" and "recycling". There are no extra categories.@@defeqel6537
@@defeqel6537 It's actually a stupid system, as the 'deposit' just becomes a 'tax' as most people aren't going to bother due to the low amount of value.
There's also the problem of persons on snap/food stamps buying stuff and just dumping the contents to get the deposit.
@@chrisbaker8533 we don't have food stamps, so there is that. Most people do return bottles here to get the deposit back, the bottles that aren't returned are often collected by drunks, though not sure how good of a thing that is
@@chrisbaker8533 IDK bro, the deposit system works pretty well and has achieved a 90% return rate. It's better than nothing for sure. People who aren't as well off, return them.
I never thought Techquickie would make a video covering my companies business. Yes, I sell sand. We mine, dredge from ocean floor bottom, excavate from our sand pits looking like a desert. We have everything sand of every type and size and company has over 100 sites/plants/factories world-wide. So this was fun to see them bring it up as you can probably understand it is most of my every day life. Sand...
and how limited sand is in your opinion? will we run out of it in the next 100 years? or is there enough for 500-1000 years?
@@blade1989222 No we won't run out of sand - but we might run out of affordable sand. Prices are already high in some region and demand is steadily growing.
@@blade1989222 At some places we have for the next 70-100 years even tough we have to expand the area and at some places we have deposits prospected to last longer. Hard to say for the world as a whole
Demented, but based
If you’re in need of sand with SiO2 99.2% above, Fe 0.02-0.03 in Asia, let me know 😉
These types of videos are essential. I did not know about it and how serious it can be. Thank you :D
There are so many things in life that we take for granted. I was really surprised by this video too.
Yep, I'm Gen X and they were pushing this on us back in the late 80's or early 90's that we were going to run out of sand and everything else years ago. Yet, here we are today with far more of many of those things than they were saying back then.
Beware the doomsday prop agan da. It is a huge lie built on very limited truth.
Don’t believe everything they tell you…
There are milion problems in thouSANDs of industries that you also have no clue about. Intelligent people on the free market are solving them so you don't have to worry. What do I know, maybe you are also solving one of these issues in some industry
Every "renewable" resource is renewable only in a very technical sense.
It takes time to renew those resources.
Technically coal/oil is also renewable… if you're willing to wait 10 million years.
no… actually not lol
An example of the law of conservation of energy is the sun uses hydrogen in fusion to create energy that we can harvest using solar panels, so yes ever renewable resources or energy is only kind of renewable
@@MaddTheSane You can make functional equivalents way faster, but we'd need to stop pretending nuclear is icky to do it at a scale big enough to stop needing to drill/mine those.
@@MaddTheSaneOil is actually way more renewable than a lot of other stuff... It's much easier to get pure CO2 from the air than its to get pure Uranium from the ground.
you'll also get a much cleaner product than fossils
It's really hard to beat the renewability of glass and metal based products though.
This is why we should stop Intel from wasting all the damn sand
Shoots Fiyred!!
lil bro, at least they can make better drivers and they don't malfunction within 2 years of use
@@skyblock_mouseamd's adrenaline drivers are pain in the ass and notorious for random glitches
each update somehow creates new buggy shit for you to deal with
all of the sand wasted on Intel Celeron s 😢
@@ridakesserwan8712 why u acting like glitches are rare af? Intel drivers might have less glitches but still why do u expect 0 gliches.
This is hilarious to me because I just turned in an essay in college where I proposed that spaghetti might be a viable alternative to concrete in construction, citing the sand crisis as the reason for needing to explore this option. Now I want to know if maybe we could make cpus out of spaghetti
Please elaborate; this sounds fascinating. How could spaghetti become concrete?
i wanna know too
Its almost always just a matter of how much energy you are willing to put into a process. We arent running out of anything. We just are running out of super cheap stuff to process. For example its cheaper to make new aluminum than recycle it. Aluminum is ~18% of the earths crust dont worry about it. So we will have to look at alternatives or find cheaper sources of energy or pay a little bit more for some things in the future.
I bet this could situation could all be over if we just looked at all the sand that would get into the car at the end of those childhood beach days.
I mean, if the electronics/glass grade sand is made from quartz, should we not instead be focused on dialing in that whole 'artificially grown quartz' market to target the specific qualities needed for that usage?
All the quartz used for electronics is synthetic and has been for decades. Artificial quartz can't compete with rock quartz for use in glass, unless it's something technical like fused quartz or Zerodur. Quartz for both electronics and technical glass is synthesized from silane (SiH4) or tetrachlorosilane (SiCl4), which in turn can be made from any of the quartzes that make up half of the Earth's crust
It's probably just way too expensive to supply the world's demand from synthetic sources.
@@shanent5793Thanks for the info
Legal sand mining also does its fair share of damage to the biosphere.
At least it can be potentially regulated. Criminals already don't care about the law by default.
@@Mernom I really don't see how dredging rivers for sand can be done without devastating the aquatic ecosystems that we rely on.
Glass actually isn’t recycled in most places around the globe, even those that accept glass in their recycling programs. It is still cheaper to produce new glass from natural sand than it is to ship, clean, pulverize, ship again, and process glass back into more glass products. As of a few years ago it was actually more expensive just to ship recyclable glass to a processing facility than it returned in sales. Until that changes “recycled” glass is mainly just an urban legend from companies that want to appear more environmentally friendly than they really are.
Exactly. Recycling glass is just too costly.
“Sand Demand” is my new band name.
Can't forget Adam Sandler and Sandler Bing
Just shows how awesome the show Barry is for incorporating this into it's criminal story.
You know, compared to usual Techquickie and TechLinked video reads ... which are either fairly simple or moderately fine, this one is more complex ... I actually saw Riley having to pay attention and work hard to keep it natural. A challenging subject that wandered a lot, with pretty in depth details, needing more careful attention to the flow while reading.
Well done Riley
I cant wait to become a sand dealer
Yo you got that sand man?
Are cheap devices really the problem with tech not lasting or is the problem more on the software side?
Both
_¿Por qué no los dos?_
Yes
both tbh, with developers using electron and web shit to build apps, not even caring a little bit about performance
Well in most cases they only care about pushing ads and they're using a half to compute available on the internet to do so...
Nice to have a dive into a largely non tech subject (though of course does affect tech massively). I learnt something 👍👍
Thank you for the info, and thumbs up for the message at the end 👌
This episode was amazing. Thanks for making this make sense to the world.
You might like the documentary Sand Wars then
simple solution, crush old cpu's into sand and make new cpu's out of them
That is not how that works
It's not CPUs anymore that we're worried about. It's solar panels. There's a group of scientists that are working hard to find a new medium for solar panels right now. They're also working to find a more efficient one.
Retro enthusiasts/collectors: 😱
@@gdtyra Protect the vintage CPU's!!
They said in the video that with our current technology, we don't have the ability to recycle them efficiently.
Most informative and timely! 😊
I don't think I've seen you team make a video about attending the yearly supercomputing conference. Will any of your journalist be attending this year?
0:06 much appreciated quote XD
Anakin hearing we're running out of sand:STONKS
Wasn't expecting Jesus in the middle of the video XD
hes my homeboy
2:45 I need to know where that dramatic footage is from!
There is no glass bottle recycler in the state of Montana, a state the size of Germany. Some breweries collect their own bottles to reuse but otherwise the dumps don't take it. Seems like a silly opportunity.
NAS REFERENCE I LOVE YOU 4:50
This is why we should try to keep using our devices for as long as possible.
Tech companies hate this one simple trick.
@@CyanRoopertrue
@@CyanRooper Is it only tech companies though? Should we really put all the blame on them? I am using my Iphone for 6 years now, without any issues. Sure I could buy a new one, because mine has got these huge bezels, but who cares. Well apparently many do. Most phones got replaced before they have any issues on them. So even though planned obsolescence is a real thing, its unfair to say that its the tech companies fault.
@@CyanRooperwon't someone think of the shareholders
@@horvathr95 endless consumerism is mostly promoted by media owned by rich people, constant advertising, and such, so if it's not just tech companies to blame, it's still mostly a bunch of rich people manipulating a bunch of folks into buying things they don't actually need through carefully planned advertisement campaigns (which use psychology to exploit people's minds on a regular basis)
so even if it's not only tech companies to blame, it's still mainly shared corporate interests
You didn't mention that it's also used in oil and gas production extensively
Interesting you guys put this video out when Microsoft put out a video 3 days ago called "Microsoft Project Silica" talking about how using glass is the way of the future to create sustainable long term data storage. LTT talking about how we need to ration all the sand, and Microsoft out there using all the sand to make glass storage.
If only a policy was made to limit new models of phones/tablets/PCs/etc each year, but especially phones so we'd get aa new model every 2-3 years instead of each year, that could greatly reduce the demand and also make each upgrade more special and feature-rich.
That dramatic tidal wave was hilarious
Very useful topic to create awareness of environment protection.
Suggest that once a while such useful topics are discussed. 👏👍
Many different types of aggregate can be used. But, we may be in trouble if we run out of Portland cement.
I'm sure some smart personal figure out a way to make use of the other sand and process it in a way to make it more like beach sand used today
Still rocking my trusty i7 4770🤘with turbo locked and a BLCK OC to 4ghz👌and remember this is a non overclockable cpu with a max base clock of 3,4ghz. Still going strong 8 years after^^
one thing that might help preserve some sand is get rid of planned obsolescense.
Solution: crush glass into grains
Sand is Sand.
please do a video on rhythm games, in any of the LMG channels, because of their potential and how it can be used as a testing platform for both human and computation limits
Someone has got to find the end portal ASAP
Lmao I love his ending statement 😂
Came for the CPUs, stayed for the concrete.
make a cobblegen and grind the cobble down to sand in a create crushing wheel
LOL @ the editors note about Spice.. I don't know Dune much either. I know more from the South Park episodes than the original story lol
Maybe Europe will be seen as resource rich once quartzsand runs low. There are gigantic deposits of high purity quartz sand in the european lowlands created by the last ice age.
Problem is that they have human rights, you can't exploit them
Illegal dredging is no joke, some shit did it to our river during the night just before a bend, speeding it up and in only 3 years creating a nasty green stagnant oxbow lake denying us river access.
Only a matter of time till we have a Martian sand CPU
Anakin Skywalker would be proud
and old saying I know says: "give techs a desert, and they'll buy sand some years later" damn we're already at it.
Almost like these companies should be held accountable and to NOT create e-waste just for the sake of launching a new phone, or a new computer component every three months.
well glas is widely smelted back and reused, concrete and other stuff gets crushed and reused too. thing is the more modern the chips get the harder it is to get all the materials out to reuse the silicon for new chips. the old ones just had some circuets printed on them with aluminium or copper the new stuff? that would read like some soil sample behind a chemical complex dumping its waste into the landscape...
Sandman is no longer a villain, he's ransom 😂
Ha-ha-ha! The glass has to be created from sound with special dimensions of grains... Don't you melt the sand when you create glass?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
the flintstones was running on cutting edge tech
You wouldn’t think Dungeness in the U.k was a desert
1:38 Umm 0.075mm is not the same as 0.75mm
They fixed up the 11-nines purity with a sneaky little audio splice at 2:01 though, so I guess that's something
Me looking at my 7-4790k - hold on buddy, hold on...
No mention the Documentary Sand Wars, which is about this topic.
Shouldve given an alternate title of "Geography by Techquickie"
Coffee grounds??? Just tell me how many microns I should set my grinder to and I'm ready to save the world.
welp, time to revolutionize several industries
There's the worlds largest silica mine near me (cape flattery) and it's the most pure stuff on earth, Whitest ever and like walking in powder.
Anyway it's fricken huge and there is thousands of square miles of the stuff. For now.
'Oh no! We're running out of stock?! Better buy in bulk just in case!'
Thanks for the info
Just build a sand duper and dupe all the sand you could ever want. That’s until they patch it and we got to find new ways to dupe sand.
Yes it’s a joke before anyone comments.
Just build a working computer in Minecraft
@@vinching926we don't have enough sand for that sir 😂
So i guess someday we will "visit" Mars to check if There is enough of what we need and complettely Ruin it with massive Factories literally on entire planet surface for our Earth people needs. Now that is exactly how i imagine future of Humanity in few centuries, legit.
I honestly figure we would do meteor and asteroid minning/collections before just converting Mars to a factory planet. Mars might be reasonably able to be terraformed into something habitable.
4:00 ok I did a university report with experiments for putting coffee grounds in concrete and that "30% stronger" claim is bs, coffee grounds always make the concrete weaker for compressive strength. The higher the percentage of coffee grounds, the weaker the concrete. However, generally they can replace 5-15% of the sand with coffee grounds without it having too detrimental of an effect. So they are replacing a small amount of sand with coffee grounds, but ultimately it is not economically viable as the savings would only be 4% maximum, plus trust in the concrete is uncertain. However, this was from a few years ago, maybe they have designed a new type of coffee grounds that improves strength somehow.
Middle east knowing they finally got something beside oil now: *happy dancing*
I feel like back when playing minecraft and emptying entire deserts off the sand
Me: "It's coming up on time to replace this aging X99 build. I should pull up LTT and---"
LTT: "THE EARTH IS RUNNING OUT OF USABLE SILICA SAND"
Human's: were running out of sand to make silicone.
Mindustry: First time?
Ok, We have in Egypt a lot of sand that is needed to make CPUs and Chips, Egypt does not use this type of sand except glass
Sand is Sand period
@@SMCwasTaken no actually
@@DennySchnitzler Sand IS SAND the end
@@SMCwasTaken But there is many kinds of Sand
@@DennySchnitzler but Sand is Sand
Pound sand to make more sand, eh?
We have started to fill our roads in the UK with plastic which can't be recycled and we use tarmac
We need to build a real life minecraft sand machine.
Time to start mining the landfills for old computer parts. I bet there’s lots of old cpus down there.
i knew someone's uncle who bought a mountain for mining the sand, went home. comes the next DAY only to finding out someone steals all the sand
I'm wondering how would a desert look like without sand.
And I'm not talking about the treats.
I need a chemist to explain why a processed version of silicone dioxide cant be broken back down to its simplest form (its namesake)? I could've sworn that through using chemical processes, its possible to reduce any compound back down to its basic chemical composition?
If you apply enough energy anything can be broken down, the problem is doing it economically
@@shanent5793 Okay so lets just arrest all the billionaires, sieze their assets, apply it to THIS, get room-temp super conductors, establish stage 2 civilization, enter third stage cuz EZPZ, WTF IS STOPPING US FR
We can, it’s actually pretty easy. We just don’t need to because we’re not even close to running out of sand for semiconductors. For construction? That’s the actual issue.
stuff like this is why we need to figure out a feasible way to harvest minerals from asteroids
3:38 the most horrific sprawling single use suburbs imaginable followed by an abomination of 10 lanes. ... yeah lets scale down that use, immediately.
After giving it more thought. Maybe there’s different sands? Shit I’m no scientist.
Could we do a real organic substrate chip with Corn starch? Like there were the attempt of fabricating biodegradable plastics for drink cups.
Semiconductor vs organics... I guess you didn't take many chemistry classes?
@@thedude5040 And what are OLED displays made of? What are capacitors chemistry made of?
@johnnychang4233 you missed the point. The ability to emit a photon, disapate heat, or provide ions is not what makes a semiconductor. Think about a transistor and how the base current manipulates gates to let alot of current through, some current, or no current.
@@thedude5040 As I told to another responder to my comments in another topic, don't aim for the high hanging fruits yet, aim for the lower ones and think of a way to make a simple functioning model first. Who say that we cannot have an organic base substrate that could potentially have semi-conductors properties that we can benefit from in the manufacturing of electronics?
@@johnnychang4233Actually it can be done, but I doubt the molecular size is small enough, this affect transistor density. Beside it won't be stable when heated, this would drop the chip performance, reliability and lifespan significantly. Such drawback won't be accepted by any consumer. I guess there would be more technical challenge during manufacturing too. Since you know, we make these chip by shooting laser at it. I doubt they could use the same thing for these.
5:08 fin.
Considering how easy it is to recycle glass, it's absurd to me that my municipality doesn't recycle it.
dang no more sandy bridge
The difference in cost for concentration of quartz in the single digit in silicon chip production is very minor most of the cost for concentration is for the last little amount of impurities, also we produce extremely Little of it,
Because it is a complex process that require a huge amount of Energy.
It's like considering the amount of weight you lose every time you lose a hair from one specific follicle of your neck, it won't make you lose any significant amount of weight even in years.
Construction is a bigger deal, but for silicon chips basically the source of the silicon does contribute a very small amount on the total cost, it is 99% due to the energy cost and the patent, and way less than 1% from the source itself
there should be minimum quality requirement laws to prevent wasting these materials to ewaste (example: all the knockoff phones from wish, temu, ex)
Gamers Nexus's "waste of sand" comments about absolutely garbage chips no longer sound funny now.
We need a new Sandman!!
Yeah, so I live in an area where silicant mines are very common. Very very common. And they are slowly shutting down because they get outsourced by cheaper labor outside of the US.... So much like oil, the new needed source for EV is now endangered. Right.
We are running out of CPUs to make sand
I'm still daily driving my 5 year old Galaxy S9+ and it's fine as a tool at work (I'm an IT guy) and for all my personal digital needs.
It rains diamonds in Uranus