your absolutley right, they thought it was a scaled evaporator and changed it. Thats where thoroughness comes in. Other night I was checking a 5 well steam table and it was 8pm and I just wanted to check the heater to the well they were complaining about. But you kept popping up in my head and saying "look at the big picture". I did and I found two other wells with their safety limits bypassed and the unit is not grounded!! You are teaching great attitudes. Thank you sir.
Dude. In the last 2 months ive watched your videos ive learned this, WOW are there some half ass guys in HVAC and alot of people who watch this that dont know about HVAC just dont understand the time and intelligence it takes to do what you do my friend. And not just what u do but how you do it. You go above and beyond and the world is lucky for guys like you
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Glad you mentioned the Cube Guide. Customers often don't want to replace that even though it's so cheap compared to a Water Pump. I always tell them "It's up to you, but this Cube Guide is about $40 and your Pump is about $400-$700." That line usually gets their attention xD
I just shifted from only doing residential AC to working on everything hvac and refrigeration. These videos are great and very informative, I learn something in just about every video because of the tips and tricks you share. Thank you for putting the info out there.
It's always important to make sure the right parts are on the machine to eliminate any problems that might arise. However it is good to install a water filter system with a water pressure guage to make sure you are getting enough water pressure. Usually when a bin thermostat goes bad either the machine wont come on or the machine wont turn off. It is good to use a volt meter with ohms and continuity to check the bin thermostat. Many times also a defective or dirty float switch can cause a freeze up on the evaporator for Hoshizaki
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I don't know about the newer machines but 15-20 years ago When I had a bad freeze up on a Hoshi it was normally related to harvest problems. Hoshi is my favorite machine. I heard Hoshi had problems with evap plates separating but I only ever saw it once and I worked on a lot of them. I could work on them all day, though I do not anymore. Over the years 98% of ice machine problems are water side. Replace maybe 2 compressors and one expansion valve and maybe one bin stat. Lots of check valve rebuilds.
I live in Melbourne Victoria Australia and I love your videos! I'm a club DJ and A/V engineer studio and mixing sound live and some engineers are so lazy! Their work and sound quality is woeful!
Another superb video. I am trying to learn more about ice machines especially Hoshizaki ice machines & this video offered really good troubleshooting procedures on iced evaporators & general preventative maintenance tips. I learned a lot from this one!
Yeah most of the big bulk ice makers have mold in them and unless they get cleaned on a regular basis. Which with most companies doesn't happen because that would mean you'd have to spend labor dollars on it and the labor at most places is barely enough to keep the doors open much less do thing like clean machines like the are supposed to be. If you think that ice bin is bad you don't want to know what a fountain machine looks like. I started managing a convenience store and got taught how to properly clean the machine I've never drunk fountain drink ever again.
I love Hoshizaki ice machines, you can keep the rest. I also find that water scaling on the evaporator causes ice to stick, requiring a de-scale. Don't know if you have chalk in the water causing scale over there in the States but we do in certain areas of the UK.
In my state of California we have very hard water lots of scaled up evaps thanks for watching! I am going to go live on RUclips tonight 11/12/18 at 5:00PM pacific standard time to discuss my most recent uploads and answer questions. Come on over and check it out ruclips.net/video/Fhmj8g3Gd2w/видео.html
Good vid ! nice catch on the water valve. ive got a reputation for being thorough , but u take it to the next level & i never even thought there was a next level. people think im too thorough. im just going to laugh the next time someone thinks im being too thorough.
If the machine had a history of evaporator freeze up, It could have been why the evaporator went bad. Those evaps are made of stainless steel. the coils are sandwiched between the plates. So, if water gets between those plates it will over time separate the plates from the coil.
Thank you for mentioning this. I was going to say the same thing. Not very often have I seen one leak but many times you see the tubes broken from the evap plate. This causes long freeze issues.
Shane Behm ya people clean it and put it back at the wrong level too. End up adding too much water into the machine. Ice cubes are a lot thicker and take longer to harvest.
Those Hoshizaki's are the best imo. I have never serviced one that has had its lines cleaned out though, they get run 24/7 and neglected as far as cleaning goes
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Idk if it’s just a Florida water problem but down here the biggest cause of hoshi freeze up is the evap plates separating great videos brother I swear all new hires need to watch your whole library to know what to expect and how to trouble shoot !!!!
Wow I learned a lot from this thank you. Now I know all the things I've been overlooking. Great video 👍 I will definitely use this on my next service call.
chris you got lucky. what i deal with hoshizaki last time was the hardwater runing in to the machine. they do have the water filter but still a lot of lime build up it was a nightmare. thank you for the good video 👍
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Great video once again. Had the same issue on a km2400srh3 cuber from Hoshi. I also found a wrong sized water inlet valve and the bypass spring was weak. Dumping water into the float switch from the top hose. Replaced both those and ran fine for 4 days then all of a sudden froze up again. Tested the float switch but found was intermittent and hanging up. Replaced float switch no more call backs. Excellent info about the water inlet line size. Very common to see 3/8" line to every unit no matter the size. Yea I agree do not touch the board. Well done!
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Make some golden rules. 2 of mine are , if u get a service call on a machine and float switch or ice thickness probes are suspect/ the problem Allways replace them. They will last much longer and customer will be happier in the long run. ive proven it. clean something and it works for 3 weeks to 6 months or a year. replace the part and customer can be happy for many years.
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Nope... I'm 200% with you. I work 2 jobs. 1 at a restaurant equipment company and do military dog reaclimation when returning from duty. BTW.... great video. Keep em coming.
thank you for the video i am going to recommend your channel to the PM tech on how to clean the machines I tried telling him to just read the instructions its more of an attitude you go into each service call with eyes wide open and desiring to do the best job I possibly can.
I'm lucky One of my ex apprentices went on to work for Hoshizaki UK for 16 years Hes an Absolute encyclopedia of information As an aside we just call them SHARKYS AS customers have various ideas as to the name to hilarious levels
Hoshizaki makes a great line if machines. When they first came to the US they were a copy of the Kold Draft machine. I worked on some of those early machines, I think at Denny's Restaurants/ I really love working on ice machines. They are inside, for the most part. So many ways to do the same task. I like Ice O Matic and Manitowoc, beware the use of any cleaner except Nickle Safe.. I appreciate your abilities. I had 22 employees at one time. Only 2 were at your level.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to leave a nice comment. I am still learning everyday.... 22 employees wow, I have 3 and some days I feel like I can't control the 3 I have, i couldn't imagine 22.
@@HVACRVIDEOS I know that feeling. Too many made more money than I did. The worked less hours for it. We had free draft for employees from a keg in a 1938 Servel Gas refrigerator. Couldn't do that now. I once took a weekend off, went to the mountains. Saw one of my trucks 100 miles fro the shop, on a Sunday. "Fixin Mom's Refrigerator." Your at the best size.
I have my own business doing appliance and hvac/r repairs and I get call on ice machines from time to time. Don't know a lot about them but I just look for the obvious what's causing the problem. I would've broke the hard ice tapping it with my little hammer and steamed the rest inside. I try to get tech support when I can but that's not always possible so I just try to figure out what's happening on my own. Good video. Reading the manual definitely helps a lot.
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I realize this is from four years ago, but the number one reason for a hoshizaki freeze up is a plugged inlet screen, first thing to look for. It didn't look too bad, but bad enough when combined with the reduced supply water line & improper water inlet valve(nice catch there). But I'm not sure why you replaced the binstat?? It had nothing to do with anything.
My biggest problem is that after working on about 40 or so of different ice machines, not 1 of them had their manual available. Doesn't matter if it's a huge place with 20 machines or tiny restaurant with just 1, if it's a 20 year old or 1 year old unit. The book is always missing. Hard to look up correct procedure, parts and sequence.
This evap freeze up is typical hoshizaki ice machine problem. I talked to their tech and they guide me through all kind of steps. Problem never solve. I fix this by either adjust the water float level or increase harvest time on some model.
God i would love to be your apprentice. I'm a journeyman electrician who also knows home havac. But I learned it over the phone lol. I'm no tech as yourself but, if it has a working compressor, two fans, and two coils I will make it blow cold damn it! I have been seriously thinking about getting into the refrigeration side of things from ice machines to walk in coolers and freezers. To really learn I know its best to start from an install crew but at 40 I'm not sure if i'm up to building coolers and obviously the drop in pay.
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I hate the amount of times I've seen issues with hoshi unit that were all caused by improper installation. The first thing I do on any ice machine I'm working on for the first time is check the supply line and the drain line so I can see for myself it's done correctly.
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That was ingenius how the GPM of water was calculated. Your expertise is a thing of beauty to watch. How else could that be done? maybe using an empty gallon jug of milk or something and filling it up while timing it? is that plausible?
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We had a Hoshizaki Cube Star in the employee break area. (Removed upon a remodel some years ago.) I can't forget the locally-made sign that was posted on it. "Do not put anything in this drian (sic). No coffee, soda, juice ect (sic)." Misspellings bug me, and so this bugged me every day as I had to see it every day.
I know absolutely nothing about ice machines, but I am fascinated how they work. If I did own one, I would love to have you as my serviceman. You seem very knowledgeable, thorough, and concerned to get the machine to operate properly. Excellent video. Is that an EV RE-320 Mic in your studio?? Sounds great, nice EQ set up.
It's the rode procaster mic. Thanks for watching and thanks for the audio comment, I really have no idea what I'm doing and just am winging it with the mixer settings ! :-)
I agree. On the other side I get warranty service call plus 2 hours to change them so I am always looking for them. That and bad evaps on the new machines. I dont know what they era using for solder on these new machines but its crap. I have changed 10 evaps in the last month or so all under warranty with machines that are 6 months old or less
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Hey Chris and other Guys, i installed a Brand New KM1301 SAH-E machine in April this year. straight off it didn't work, dumping 10 litres of water 10 minutes into the freeze cycle.. pulled out the dump valve spring and stretched it,machine worked.. got new spring from spares,it had 5 coils,original spring had 4 coils. according to Hoshi USA there is only 1 spring...???... and they recommend you stretch it to be between 38 - 50mm long. Anyhow ,in the past 7 months i've had 7 ice ups, never any fault beeps, always defrosted and checked every component to work, its makes ice a ok..did the full ice up fault sheet for Hoshi USA and they saw no issue with water or anything else.. once it ran for a 68 min freeze cycle,after i defrosted it ,i changed PC board, then discovered Hoshi manual says dip switch setting are max 60 mins, but its wrong and those dip switch settings are 70 min max freeze cycle factory set... iv'e set dip switches for 50 min now... have been given a new water valve , new float, changed, still ice ups at irregular intervals.. .. 12 days, 7 days,40 days,12 days,80 days.14 days.. David at Hoshi USA is stumped,30 emails later.. ive put 6 of these in and never had issues over the past 8 years.. this model has magnetic bin switch, seen bin full and off 10" under ice head countless times, tested bins switch a 100 times.it works..im getting a new comp relay to fit soon... any clues out there USA Techs...??? thorough job on that machine Chris..
@@HVACRVIDEOShey Chris, From an Empty Water Trough, it fills in under 1 minute and starts hot gas cycle then water pump, then freeze cycle.. have tested this many times, water pressures ,flows, etc.. David at Hoshi USA has no answer as said..that's why i'm getting new comp relay, maybe that is jamming on, i've change nearly everything else... if that fails they are sending another machine...
just fyi at 8.09 is a major install error your line set have vertical loops that cause oil to get trapped due to oil migration. just fyi that can cause issues that are hard to catch much like seperated evap coils are hard for an inexperinsed tech to find love yout vids
Good learning info, good detail, but deicing, running multiple cycles, looking up all that info. weighin ice and water times adjusting board. must of took 3.5-5hr hr service call. Inless ur company not to busy way to much time spent, normal to have 3-7 calls a day. Also proper water valve, bigger water line, and proper bin extension lots of customers will ask. it been running like that for years why all of the sudden won't work? 95 percent of the time 1 part out or just got to dirty. Good job tho.
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Not enough water was my first guess even before reading the description, also check the evap for any bulging between the horizontal ridges. I love Hoshizaki machines, but one bad freeze up can wreck the evaporators. I'm only 4 seconds in, so on to the rest of the video.
Im not an HVAC mech or anything at all but i find this fascinating watching these videos.
Assault Corgi maybe time for a career change?
Same here.
Assault Corgi Ditto!
Me too. It's a system though and I like mechanical things and learning new stuff that may be one day useful.
your absolutley right, they thought it was a scaled evaporator and changed it. Thats where thoroughness comes in. Other night I was checking a 5 well steam table and it was 8pm and I just wanted to check the heater to the well they were complaining about. But you kept popping up in my head and saying "look at the big picture". I did and I found two other wells with their safety limits bypassed and the unit is not grounded!! You are teaching great attitudes. Thank you sir.
Wow thanks bud I'm glad I could help!
Service and repair videos are one of my favorite types now. They really show people what goes on to keep a lot of our modern life running.
Dude. In the last 2 months ive watched your videos ive learned this, WOW are there some half ass guys in HVAC and alot of people who watch this that dont know about HVAC just dont understand the time and intelligence it takes to do what you do my friend. And not just what u do but how you do it. You go above and beyond and the world is lucky for guys like you
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people doing things "half arsed" is common everywhere.............sadly.
Ice machines are a plumbing fixture and me as a plumber work on them.
everytime i watch ice machine videos i swear i'll never have ice in a drink again... you must the only person thoroughly cleaning these things...
That’s why we clean ours once a month….those machines can get pretty nasty
Glad you mentioned the Cube Guide. Customers often don't want to replace that even though it's so cheap compared to a Water Pump. I always tell them "It's up to you, but this Cube Guide is about $40 and your Pump is about $400-$700." That line usually gets their attention xD
I just shifted from only doing residential AC to working on everything hvac and refrigeration. These videos are great and very informative, I learn something in just about every video because of the tips and tricks you share.
Thank you for putting the info out there.
It's always important to make sure the right parts are on the machine to eliminate any problems that might arise. However it is good to install a water filter system with a water pressure guage to make sure you are getting enough water pressure. Usually when a bin thermostat goes bad either the machine wont come on or the machine wont turn off. It is good to use a volt meter with ohms and continuity to check the bin thermostat. Many times also a defective or dirty float switch can cause a freeze up on the evaporator for Hoshizaki
we have these machines at my job... so when it broke and kept running but make a little bit of ice i got curious to check RUclips... and now im recommended these and im not disappointed
Thanks for watching bud!
I know absolutely nothing about ice machines but I totally love your videos.
I don't know about the newer machines but 15-20 years ago When I had a bad freeze up on a Hoshi it was normally related to harvest problems. Hoshi is my favorite machine. I heard Hoshi had problems with evap plates separating but I only ever saw it once and I worked on a lot of them.
I could work on them all day, though I do not anymore.
Over the years 98% of ice machine problems are water side. Replace maybe 2 compressors and one expansion valve and maybe one bin stat. Lots of check valve rebuilds.
I live in Melbourne Victoria Australia and I love your videos! I'm a club DJ and A/V engineer studio and mixing sound live and some engineers are so lazy! Their work and sound quality is woeful!
Another superb video. I am trying to learn more about ice machines especially Hoshizaki ice machines & this video offered really good troubleshooting procedures on iced evaporators & general preventative maintenance tips. I learned a lot from this one!
Seeing these ice machines is making me not want ice from a restaurant anymore lol
IVE WORKED ON A MILLION OF THESE, YOU FIXED IT CORRECT WATER FLOW AND BIN STAT EXTENSION
90% of the time freeze ups are caused by poor water flow....
thanks for the vid sir. i appreciate the info the concise nature of your delivery and not including random unnecessary stuff. well done
They need to clean the Ice machine cavity more often. There appeared to be spores of some sort on the walls.
90% of ice machines have quite a bit of mold in them most people don’t keep up with cleaning
Yeah most of the big bulk ice makers have mold in them and unless they get cleaned on a regular basis. Which with most companies doesn't happen because that would mean you'd have to spend labor dollars on it and the labor at most places is barely enough to keep the doors open much less do thing like clean machines like the are supposed to be. If you think that ice bin is bad you don't want to know what a fountain machine looks like. I started managing a convenience store and got taught how to properly clean the machine I've never drunk fountain drink ever again.
@@kurtheil4922 yeah, but that water is not exposed as it is in an ice machine.
That guy on the background blends in with you rug. Nice dog.
I love Hoshizaki ice machines, you can keep the rest. I also find that water scaling on the evaporator causes ice to stick, requiring a de-scale. Don't know if you have chalk in the water causing scale over there in the States but we do in certain areas of the UK.
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You are very safe and safety minded.
The dog in the background at the end of the vid is awesome.
Good vid ! nice catch on the water valve.
ive got a reputation for being thorough , but u take it to the next level & i never even thought there was a next level. people think im too thorough. im just going to laugh the next time someone thinks im being too thorough.
I know jack about this industry. But this guy seems like a pro at it.
I'm a novice that has made a bunch of mistakes, I'm learning every day!
Awesome video! Was stumped earlier today on a smaller Hoshi unit with this same issue. This video was all kinds of help, thanks!
If the machine had a history of evaporator freeze up, It could have been why the evaporator went bad. Those evaps are made of stainless steel. the coils are sandwiched between the plates. So, if water gets between those plates it will over time separate the plates from the coil.
Thank you for mentioning this. I was going to say the same thing. Not very often have I seen one leak but many times you see the tubes broken from the evap plate. This causes long freeze issues.
I usually find that the float switch is the main issue on freeze ups. It gets stuck and won't go into harvest.
Shane Behm ya people clean it and put it back at the wrong level too. End up adding too much water into the machine. Ice cubes are a lot thicker and take longer to harvest.
20 secs into the video and I wouldnt order ice with my drinks until that bin was cleaned and sanitized thoroughly.
Those Hoshizaki's are the best imo. I have never serviced one that has had its lines cleaned out though, they get run 24/7 and neglected as far as cleaning goes
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An excellent presentation on the ice machine.
Thanks for watching!
A lot of customers would say that the previous mechanics were ripping him off but what it boils down to is the mechanics are incompetent
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Idk if it’s just a Florida water problem but down here the biggest cause of hoshi freeze up is the evap plates separating great videos brother I swear all new hires need to watch your whole library to know what to expect and how to trouble shoot !!!!
Thanks bud
I have two of these machines and all the cleaning tips are great! Love your attention to detail!
Wow I learned a lot from this thank you. Now I know all the things I've been overlooking. Great video 👍 I will definitely use this on my next service call.
chris you got lucky. what i deal with hoshizaki last time was the hardwater runing in to the machine. they do have the water filter but still a lot of lime build up it was a nightmare. thank you for the good video 👍
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I like your videos, you are thorough and explain everything that is a problem or could be a problem.
Thanks bud
great tutorial. i want to move from car AC do hvac and this is great way to gain knowledge, really appreciate that kind of videos.
Great video once again. Had the same issue on a km2400srh3 cuber from Hoshi. I also found a wrong sized water inlet valve and the bypass spring was weak. Dumping water into the float switch from the top hose. Replaced both those and ran fine for 4 days then all of a sudden froze up again. Tested the float switch but found was intermittent and hanging up. Replaced float switch no more call backs.
Excellent info about the water inlet line size. Very common to see 3/8" line to every unit no matter the size.
Yea I agree do not touch the board.
Well done!
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Make some golden rules. 2 of mine are , if u get a service call on a machine and float switch or ice thickness probes are suspect/ the problem Allways replace them. They will last much longer and customer will be happier in the long run. ive proven it. clean something and it works for 3 weeks to 6 months or a year. replace the part and customer can be happy for many years.
Thank you so much , I could never fix a ice up on those machine I just defrost and adjust the 1 and 2 dip switch on 10 pin connectors.
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99 times out of 98 the problem is the water line is to small and insufficient water filter
Am I the only one who went "DOG!" as soon as the recap started? :-)
Nope... I'm 200% with you. I work 2 jobs. 1 at a restaurant equipment company and do military dog reaclimation when returning from duty. BTW.... great video. Keep em coming.
I've learned a lot from your instructions. Thank you !
thank you for the video i am going to recommend your channel to the PM tech on how to clean the machines I tried telling him to just read the instructions its more of an attitude you go into each service call with eyes wide open and desiring to do the best job I possibly can.
Didn’t realise getting ice in your drink was so damn complex! 👍🏼👍🏼
Good job you actually know what your doing.
I'm lucky
One of my ex apprentices went on to work for Hoshizaki UK for 16 years
Hes an Absolute encyclopedia of
information
As an aside we just call them SHARKYS
AS customers have various ideas as to the name to hilarious levels
I don't miss working on these.
Hoshizaki makes a great line if machines. When they first came to the US they were a copy of the Kold Draft machine. I worked on some of those early machines, I think at Denny's Restaurants/ I really love working on ice machines. They are inside, for the most part. So many ways to do the same task. I like Ice O Matic and Manitowoc, beware the use of any cleaner except Nickle Safe.. I appreciate your abilities. I had 22 employees at one time. Only 2 were at your level.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to leave a nice comment. I am still learning everyday.... 22 employees wow, I have 3 and some days I feel like I can't control the 3 I have, i couldn't imagine 22.
@@HVACRVIDEOS I know that feeling. Too many made more money than I did. The worked less hours for it. We had free draft for employees from a keg in a 1938 Servel Gas refrigerator. Couldn't do that now. I once took a weekend off, went to the mountains. Saw one of my trucks 100 miles fro the shop, on a Sunday. "Fixin Mom's Refrigerator." Your at the best size.
Great work. That ice bin with the rust at the top made me ill. Also, being in the restaurant business, all that residual ice in the bin needs to go.
Health inspectors love go over those ice machines real good lol
you ever them were the coating has came off the evap and the ice will come off the plate?
You've come a long way from this video. Checking on out your bare studio!!😂
I have my own business doing appliance and hvac/r repairs and I get call on ice machines from time to time. Don't know a lot about them but I just look for the obvious what's causing the problem. I would've broke the hard ice tapping it with my little hammer and steamed the rest inside. I try to get tech support when I can but that's not always possible so I just try to figure out what's happening on my own. Good video. Reading the manual definitely helps a lot.
Keep tapping with that hammer and eventually u will bust a coil
@@1989Chrisc I wouldn't do it if I didn't know what I was doing. That hard ice is nowhere near the coil.
Lol
Great video showing how the initial installation effects performance and long term health of the machine. Great Video!!
These videos are sooo interesting. I’d rather watch these than anything on Netflix. Gary Keslar
You rock man- thanks for another great video.
Dude can i apprentice under you. You are one thorough technician!
I really enjoy how detailed and specific you are! A true master of the trade!
I like your videos,very clear the explanation about every job.
Wow you crammed a lot of information in there.... good job.! 👍👍 Hoshsoki's can be a major pain in the butt sometimes.
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The quality sure has increased over 3 years :D
Way to go. Very thorough diagnostic route.
I'd love to work with you. You are so smart and thorough.
Thorough job, good tips and mindset!
Great Video...several good tips Thanks!
I usually put the evap cover on and hit the lines from the top with a hose. Doesn’t get water everywhere.
I found a good way to get that sanitizer throughout the ice machine is to cleaning mode and dump your 3 oz of sanitizer in the water reservoir.
Awesome vid! Showed me a thing or 2 on Hoshis and I thought I was pretty good lol.
Thanks bud!
I realize this is from four years ago, but the number one reason for a hoshizaki freeze up is a plugged inlet screen, first thing to look for.
It didn't look too bad, but bad enough when combined with the reduced supply water line & improper water inlet valve(nice catch there). But I'm not sure why you replaced the binstat?? It had nothing to do with anything.
Love watching your content Man. Your killing it out there.. would love to watch more walk in freezers trouble shooting
My biggest problem is that after working on about 40 or so of different ice machines, not 1 of them had their manual available. Doesn't matter if it's a huge place with 20 machines or tiny restaurant with just 1, if it's a 20 year old or 1 year old unit. The book is always missing. Hard to look up correct procedure, parts and sequence.
This evap freeze up is typical hoshizaki ice machine problem. I talked to their tech and they guide me through all kind of steps. Problem never solve. I fix this by either adjust the water float level or increase harvest time on some model.
Have same machine at work Your video was right on
God i would love to be your apprentice.
I'm a journeyman electrician who also knows home havac.
But I learned it over the phone lol. I'm no tech as yourself but, if it has a working compressor, two fans, and two coils I will make it blow cold damn it!
I have been seriously thinking about getting into the refrigeration side of things from ice machines to walk in coolers and freezers. To really learn I know its best to start from an install crew but at 40 I'm not sure if i'm up to building coolers and obviously the drop in pay.
Freeze ups on a Hoshizaki will cause plate separation, Great video!!
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@@HVACRVIDEOS I will...
I'm very familiar with Manitowoc but these are a whole different beast.
I work on both. Stick to the manitowoc because every time you work on a hoshizaki you end up bleeding. Everything is crazy sharp!! Lol.
Man your v d o the beat thank you
Great videos. Thanks for sharing your knowledge in refrigeracion
I hate the amount of times I've seen issues with hoshi unit that were all caused by improper installation. The first thing I do on any ice machine I'm working on for the first time is check the supply line and the drain line so I can see for myself it's done correctly.
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CLEAN THE DAMN ICE MACHINE! Health Inspector will get you on that.
I wish i had access to these video wen i was a tech great video
I wish I had videos like these too, that's why I am making them now, to help out the next guy and help bridge the skills gap...
That was ingenius how the GPM of water was calculated. Your expertise is a thing of beauty to watch. How else could that be done? maybe using an empty gallon jug of milk or something and filling it up while timing it? is that plausible?
Yeah I guess that would work
We have one of those at the place i work at, Damn thing is always freezing up and constantly beeping.
Great video and very interesting in the troubleshooting! You always bring nice info; Thanks!
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Nice video. Thanks for sharing.
We had a Hoshizaki Cube Star in the employee break area. (Removed upon a remodel some years ago.) I can't forget the locally-made sign that was posted on it. "Do not put anything in this drian (sic). No coffee, soda, juice ect (sic)." Misspellings bug me, and so this bugged me every day as I had to see it every day.
I know absolutely nothing about ice machines, but I am fascinated how they work. If I did own one, I would love to have you as my serviceman. You seem very knowledgeable, thorough, and concerned to get the machine to operate properly. Excellent video. Is that an EV RE-320 Mic in your studio?? Sounds great, nice EQ set up.
It's the rode procaster mic. Thanks for watching and thanks for the audio comment, I really have no idea what I'm doing and just am winging it with the mixer settings ! :-)
Had a brand new hoshi 6 months break a cube guide piece and lodge into the check valve. I swear those things are getting more brittle!!
Yeah it was better when the cube guides were stainless steel!
Yeah do you remember the old dssu machines that had the stainless cube guide? But I am sure those didn't make them very much money!!
I was just thinking how in the hell in commercial machines they're not stainless? Easier to clean too!!
I agree. On the other side I get warranty service call plus 2 hours to change them so I am always looking for them. That and bad evaps on the new machines. I dont know what they era using for solder on these new machines but its crap. I have changed 10 evaps in the last month or so all under warranty with machines that are 6 months old or less
Nice woofer!!
Great video! Lots of good information here. Thanks for sharing
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Great job as always .
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Great video 😊
Hey Chris and other Guys, i installed a Brand New KM1301 SAH-E machine in April this year. straight off it didn't work, dumping 10 litres of water 10 minutes into the freeze cycle.. pulled out the dump valve spring and stretched it,machine worked.. got new spring from spares,it had 5 coils,original spring had 4 coils. according to Hoshi USA there is only 1 spring...???... and they recommend you stretch it to be between 38 - 50mm long. Anyhow ,in the past 7 months i've had 7 ice ups, never any fault beeps, always defrosted and checked every component to work, its makes ice a ok..did the full ice up fault sheet for Hoshi USA and they saw no issue with water or anything else.. once it ran for a 68 min freeze cycle,after i defrosted it ,i changed PC board, then discovered Hoshi manual says dip switch setting are max 60 mins, but its wrong and those dip switch settings are 70 min max freeze cycle factory set... iv'e set dip switches for 50 min now... have been given a new water valve , new float, changed, still ice ups at irregular intervals.. .. 12 days, 7 days,40 days,12 days,80 days.14 days.. David at Hoshi USA is stumped,30 emails later.. ive put 6 of these in and never had issues over the past 8 years.. this model has magnetic bin switch, seen bin full and off 10" under ice head countless times, tested bins switch a 100 times.it works..im getting a new comp relay to fit soon... any clues out there USA Techs...??? thorough job on that machine Chris..
Test the water flow like I did, what is the gpm if the water coming in. ?
@@HVACRVIDEOShey Chris, From an Empty Water Trough, it fills in under 1 minute and starts hot gas cycle then water pump, then freeze cycle.. have tested this many times, water pressures ,flows, etc.. David at Hoshi USA has no answer as said..that's why i'm getting new comp relay, maybe that is jamming on, i've change nearly everything else... if that fails they are sending another machine...
Wow I am speechless!
@@HVACRVIDEOS I know, Big Mystery...I need Robert Stack from Unsolved Mysteries... lol
just fyi at 8.09 is a major install error your line set have vertical loops that cause oil to get trapped due to oil migration. just fyi that can cause issues that are hard to catch much like seperated evap coils are hard for an inexperinsed tech to find love yout vids
Thanks bud
Great video Bro!!!!
I know I have more questions.
But that water valve is like a TXV you need to have the right tonnage. For it to function properly.
That is correct without the right flow rate coming in it can cause all sorts of problems, freeze ups being the main one.
Good learning info, good detail, but deicing, running multiple cycles, looking up all that info. weighin ice and water times adjusting board. must of took 3.5-5hr hr service call. Inless ur company not to busy way to much time spent, normal to have 3-7 calls a day. Also proper water valve, bigger water line, and proper bin extension lots of customers will ask. it been running like that for years why all of the sudden won't work? 95 percent of the time 1 part out or just got to dirty. Good job tho.
It's crazy what reading the manual can do lol
Nicely done.
Good advice and good video. I learn a lot
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Not enough water was my first guess even before reading the description, also check the evap for any bulging between the horizontal ridges. I love Hoshizaki machines, but one bad freeze up can wreck the evaporators. I'm only 4 seconds in, so on to the rest of the video.
This was a really good video. You did a great job. How long do you think you were there that day?
About 5 hours
Great job again
Thanks bud