I have a few of these mini gyro stabilised planes and find that the controllers are the main problem with the model being twitchy, especially in expert mode. The reason for this is the sticks are a bit dead around the centers. I have bound most of mine to my radio master TX16s and it makes a world of difference. Like the big stuff you can have all the fine tuning like dual rates, expo, mixes etc.
@EssentialRC They are all different. The Volantex and Eachine are 761 4ch but as for the rest, you can sometimes find the protocols on the instructions or box lid. Failing that, there's RUclips!
Nice flight and review! Have one on the way as well after watching Frequent Flyer's video a couple weeks ago. He discovered it was brushed and was pissed until he flew it...then he was blown away😊 Can't wait to see a follow.up video now that you've gotten the hang of it! Great video💪🏾😎
Once again, another great vid, your flying and photography is really good, one question guys, what glue did you use to glue on the rubber nose cone, I've tried Foam Tac to no avail, now getting a bit desperate, I hope you can help me, cheers guys.
If you're into 3d printing, there is one that's a twin 40mm and flies really well and is fast, It won't let me post any links but the builder is on RUclips and his planes are all on cults3d
Think I've seen it. My only issue with 3D printing (and I've done it) is that they end up so fragile. If I printed a Darkstar I would want it MUCH larger...
@EssentialRC true i print in the preformed stuff and it makes it more durable than the active foaming, but his designs fly like they have gyros built in so stable and fast , I've got one with over 100 flights on it and it looks no different than a foam plane, plus all of his designs are made to tinkererd with guys have taken his stuff and enlarged them up to twin 70mms
I wonder if you turned the battery 180 degrees and slide it 7mm forward would help with CG. And maybe add flaps to the rear to avoid the nose bobbing up and down so much?
Taping a small coin inside behind the nose helps with CG especially with the FX9630 and FX9631 models. I wouldn't be surprised if a penny or nickel would help tremendously
It looks like after the crash the plane is flying a bit more jerky or perhaps the batteries are a bit low or the CG has changed.. It does fly nicely on the Gyro. I like the dual EDFs
This, like its inspiration, is a not bad airframe. That, and its demonstrated crash resistance like the KFPlan KF700, (most long-nosed jets would have lost the noses) are this toy's strengths, boys. The drawbacks are that Gawd-awful transmitter (surprised you didn't at least try to bind to FX9630 on a Multi) but that will no doubt be soon added to the Multi Module if it isn't there now. A good radio will make fine control much easier! The marginal power from those little brushed motors - nothing like 1:1 power to weight?! - are the other main downer. Converting to twin brushless with even true Rudders thrown in would be possible with a Byme-DB stab and S-bus receiver but an awful lot of work. Still they (and a lot else right now before SupaDuck starts a world trade war) are relatively cheap at the moment. 😉😊
@@EssentialRC No guarantees, but from the maker and the style of the stock transmitter, I'd try FX/9630 as stated above, Dom. 😉 You'll need the latest firmware, I think. 😊
@@EssentialRC @theoztreecrasher2647 Hi, I can confirmed it will work with the FX 9630 sub protocol found in v1.3.4.0 The same protocol will also work with 9630 (J20) and 9631 (J35). We tried it on all 3 planes at the field over the weekend. Fun little planes. Do give 3D mode a go with a proper radio. 😂
Bonjour Vivement un F14 Tomcat avec ces deux petits moteurs, ça serait cool❤ Une question, comment vole-t-il par rapport au FX9631, qui lui n'a qu'un "ventilateur"? Merci
This was better for me! So easy to hand launch and flies in a tight space because it uses differential thrust. Agree...F14 or Typhoon would be awesome 👌
OK. We have 1 in hand now and, sorry to say, it is a real dog! On the bench the stabilization is flaky - waving the ailerons in very strange ways as was once seen on a couple of the old Volantex V761-7 F-22s - plus the available power is not even sufficient to reliably launch it. Possibly a factory second but other folks have noted similar behaviour. Another bad thing is that the design is really only suitable as a ducted fan brushless upgrade which would need a much bigger more powerful battery, thus overloading the limited wing area of this. This 1 joins the old XK A160 as just a shelf queen! Bummer!
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I have a few of these mini gyro stabilised planes and find that the controllers are the main problem with the model being twitchy, especially in expert mode. The reason for this is the sticks are a bit dead around the centers. I have bound most of mine to my radio master TX16s and it makes a world of difference. Like the big stuff you can have all the fine tuning like dual rates, expo, mixes etc.
I'll try my TX16S...just need to know the protocol and bind procedure
@EssentialRC They are all different. The Volantex and Eachine are 761 4ch but as for the rest, you can sometimes find the protocols on the instructions or box lid. Failing that, there's RUclips!
The airplane and the beautiful scenery are wonderful images. 😍🤗🤗👍👍👍
Many thanks
Much Fun! I have one on the way ;-) Thanks for the review.
Hope you enjoy it!
Nice flight and review!
Have one on the way as well after watching Frequent Flyer's video a couple weeks ago. He discovered it was brushed and was pissed until he flew it...then he was blown away😊 Can't wait to see a follow.up video now that you've gotten the hang of it! Great video💪🏾😎
I thought it was exceptional. Great fun to fly. Genuinely surprised how good it was. If only someone made a twin 70mm version!
Damn that's cool
These little gyro setups could make a pizza box fly !😅😅
awesome plane 👌 want one 👍👍😃
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What a great name, though. It's almost as good as EC-121T!
Once again, another great vid, your flying and photography is really good, one question guys, what glue did you use to glue on the rubber nose cone, I've tried Foam Tac to no avail, now getting a bit desperate, I hope you can help me, cheers guys.
Appreciate the feedback. I used UHU POR
@@EssentialRC Cheers mate, that's brilliant, and keep your great vids coming. I always look forward to seeing something new from you.
I've got the J-20 with the same setup, and I have seen these and want one.
Flies totally differently. Great fun !
If you're into 3d printing, there is one that's a twin 40mm and flies really well and is fast, It won't let me post any links but the builder is on RUclips and his planes are all on cults3d
Think I've seen it. My only issue with 3D printing (and I've done it) is that they end up so fragile. If I printed a Darkstar I would want it MUCH larger...
@EssentialRC true i print in the preformed stuff and it makes it more durable than the active foaming, but his designs fly like they have gyros built in so stable and fast , I've got one with over 100 flights on it and it looks no different than a foam plane, plus all of his designs are made to tinkererd with guys have taken his stuff and enlarged them up to twin 70mms
I wonder if you turned the battery 180 degrees and slide it 7mm forward would help with CG. And maybe add flaps to the rear to avoid the nose bobbing up and down so much?
Taping a small coin inside behind the nose helps with CG especially with the FX9630 and FX9631 models. I wouldn't be surprised if a penny or nickel would help tremendously
Can you guys fly it in high rate mode next time? (Top shoulder button) Should fly nose down and much faster especially with the B setting
Will do !
Those little motors sound wheezy lol 😂😂🤣🤣 flies alright though.but the best flying Darkstar on RUclips is by Built Fast IMHO 👍
It sounds like someone is making the motor sounds with their mouth off camera 😅😅
Wheezy?! I'll dub audio of twin turbines and scram jet for you next time 😆
Well I guess I don’t need to see that movie anymore. Lol
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It looks like after the crash the plane is flying a bit more jerky or perhaps the batteries are a bit low or the CG has changed.. It does fly nicely on the Gyro. I like the dual EDFs
I didn't think it changed! Trevor took over and after a couple minutes he was flying it smoother than me
Still got knees to run 6:57
looks like a su-30 in the air
This, like its inspiration, is a not bad airframe. That, and its demonstrated crash resistance like the KFPlan KF700, (most long-nosed jets would have lost the noses) are this toy's strengths, boys.
The drawbacks are that Gawd-awful transmitter (surprised you didn't at least try to bind to FX9630 on a Multi) but that will no doubt be soon added to the Multi Module if it isn't there now. A good radio will make fine control much easier!
The marginal power from those little brushed motors - nothing like 1:1 power to weight?! - are the other main downer. Converting to twin brushless with even true Rudders thrown in would be possible with a Byme-DB stab and S-bus receiver but an awful lot of work.
Still they (and a lot else right now before SupaDuck starts a world trade war) are relatively cheap at the moment. 😉😊
First flight I always use what comes on the box. Don't be surprised at that. I'll see if can bind to my TX16S. You know what protocol?
@@EssentialRC No guarantees, but from the maker and the style of the stock transmitter, I'd try FX/9630 as stated above, Dom. 😉
You'll need the latest firmware, I think. 😊
@theoztreecrasher2647 Gotcha. I'll try it. Thanks
Yep parts will become very expensive!.. lipos are going to sky rocket
@@EssentialRC @theoztreecrasher2647
Hi, I can confirmed it will work with the FX 9630 sub protocol found in v1.3.4.0
The same protocol will also work with 9630 (J20) and 9631 (J35). We tried it on all 3 planes at the field over the weekend.
Fun little planes. Do give 3D mode a go with a proper radio. 😂
what size edfs in this....i can see this crying out for an edf upgrade ......looks really stable inflight.
Very curious about the single motor have anyone flown that one I seen a couple videos on a twin motors
It is twin motor 🤷♂️
Yes they make two verses one twin brush motors but they also have a single brush motor versus
Thrust vector it has?
No. Differential thrust on yaw axis.
It’s a more expensive Sky Viper Vector Stunt Plane.
Bonjour
Vivement un F14 Tomcat avec ces deux petits moteurs, ça serait cool❤
Une question, comment vole-t-il par rapport au FX9631, qui lui n'a qu'un "ventilateur"?
Merci
This was better for me! So easy to hand launch and flies in a tight space because it uses differential thrust. Agree...F14 or Typhoon would be awesome 👌
@@EssentialRC merci 👍
@@AlexisVILLEMAGNE This plane's "lifting body" airframe is much more efficient.
OK. We have 1 in hand now and, sorry to say, it is a real dog! On the bench the stabilization is flaky - waving the ailerons in very strange ways as was once seen on a couple of the old Volantex V761-7 F-22s - plus the available power is not even sufficient to reliably launch it. Possibly a factory second but other folks have noted similar behaviour.
Another bad thing is that the design is really only suitable as a ducted fan brushless upgrade which would need a much bigger more powerful battery, thus overloading the limited wing area of this.
This 1 joins the old XK A160 as just a shelf queen! Bummer!
Mine fly OK as showed in the video! I quite liked it's unusual vectored yaw flight characteristics. Just waiting for a calmer day to fly it again.
@@EssentialRC Not doubting your word, Dom. But it would seem that not all folks are having the same experience. 😉😬
Looks tail heavy
:D
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Sounds so inefficient.
Toy EDFs are specifically designed for teenagers who never grew up. More noise is paramount - to heck with performance! 😜
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