I agree. Giving people the power and opportunity to make a better life for themselves is the key to escaping poverty. Simply throwing your money at something doesn't solve anything.
I agree, but you can’t deny that welfare money helps people with their basic needs ( food & shelter ). Of course, one HAS TO want to work for themselves. But how about the ( sometimes not existing ) job opportunities? 🤔 Depending on where you live, this can be a real issue!
Rich want you be poor make them rich keep you poor...at will employment is for rich...the rich make rules. Yes welfare and throw money doesn't help punish rich or poor doesn't help...still need safety net for both rich or poor...rich can become poor or rags to riches. How you know when you never been rich or poor or born poor or homeless??
Teaching someone a skill is important but the problem isn’t that they can’t learn it’s that they are too busy working a dead end job, we give them financial support for college or so they don’t have to worry about money now then they go on and make money and move up
In either situation, whether looking to get up or lie down, isn’t it worthwhile to remain curious and ask a simple yet effective question that makes both individuals conscious of what is important to each one, that being, “why?” Then, “why?”, a few more times - what may seem obvious to one is not obvious to another. Even asking the person who is seeking to “help” another can reveal motives that are not there to make the general, long-term situation better, but just as a quick “it made me feel good to do it” dopamine-surge, hit-and-run, kind of moment, that doesn’t mean a person really cares for another’s situation, taking into account a person’s life experiences including trauma, surroundings including community and level of access to nature, lack of awareness/education, and poor emotional intelligence and mental/physical health, that may have/are contributing to the poverty-person’s level of functioning. Despite the good intentions of the “helper”, if it is not about relationship-building, more pain and suffering and falling back down into a hole could be doing more damage in the long run.
That's why we need a jobs bill, infrastructure investments and job opportunities and training through non governmental and charitable organizations as well as community colleges!!
I'm so happy i made productive decisions about my finances. I'm a single mother living in Melbourne Australia, Bought my second house last month and looking forward to my retirement next year if things keep going smoothly for me.
@@adamopalerma I live paycheck to paycheck and I'm looking to have all that changed this year, as I want to have money work for me instead. Will you be kind to share your process?
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Having your own income from working even has positive effects on mental health. I'm not saying welfare should be abolished. I'm only saying that welfare should only be used for emergencies as a temporary solution to help people manage, and then helping them get jobs. I also think more people should learn trades instead of going to college, seeing as so many college students major in subjects that will never help them get jobs. That is only my humble opinion. In short I believe working benefits both the individual as well as society as a whole.
I agree with that- that work gives people dignity. However, you have to get someone to hire you and there is a lot of competition: The working poor may a car, but not have teeth- as the cost has skyrocketed, like everything else. How many are willing to hire people without teeth? Extractions themselves cost hundreds of dollars, fixing the teeth thousands. Not many poor people have the money to fix them. You have to address the stigma issues first, or the poor are not “ employable “ even with skills. I like the idea of work programs. I was on one in my teens, and went on to work 30 years- although my jobs were low wage. I was a preschool teacher and a caregiver for special people🌹 No retirement. At least I cared for hundreds of people and feel good about that.
I’m deeply suspicious of any political party that advertises itself as a party for the poor for the simple fact that such a party would have a direct interest in keeping people poor, and thus dependent on them as to maintain a voter base.
More people will vote for you if those "poor people" saw an improvement. Those improvement is the sure way to maintain a voter base, not to keep them poor.
@@AnimMouse I don't think he's talking about keeping the same people poor, but using the same ideas to tempt younger poor people unaware that it was those same ideas that got them in that situation. In a nutshell, the party sympathetic to the poor is at a point where one wonders if they're sympathetic to them because they need them to exist? Are they holding everyone back by enac - COMMUNISM! - oh sorry, woah. I dunno what that was. Where did that come from?
Who could possibly be against anti-poverty? You like people being poor? And so, over the last 50 years, the US government has spent more than 16 TRILLION DOLLARS in its war against poverty… So, how well is that working?Not well. It’s fuelled generational welfare dependency and economic resentment. Trillions of dollars and the needle has scarcely moved. When Lyndon Johnson declared war on poverty, the rate was 19 percent. We now have a 15 percent poverty rate. Need it be said, America’s poor live lives of the comfortable middle class by global standards. In 1964, children in poverty was at 23 percent. Now? It’s 22 percent. This has been a wasteful disaster, fomenting nothing but resentment, dependency and social apathy. Tax the rich? The rich currently pay the vast majority of taxes. These taxes inevitably slow economic growth, decrease actual tax revenue and hurt the working poor. Please check out my book “Deconstructing Social Justice”. I promise you, you’re in for more than a few surprises!
I'm a liberal and I agree with every word. I'm from Bangladesh, a really poor country, continually hit by natural calamities and it's really hard to eradicate poverty in this densely populated country. Yet Bangladesh has succeeded to reduce rate of 'extreme poverty' from 44.2% in 1991 to only 12.9% in 2016. The most successful program that Bangladesh Government in cooperation with International Community took was "Food in exchange of work". In this program, the extreme poor people, especially women were offered food for their family in exchange of working in government infrastructure development program. This program helped government to develop crucial infrastructures like roads, dams to save crop from sudden flood etc, as well as grew habit among rural poors, specially women to participate in economic activities. Now a days, despite being a Muslim majority traditional country, Bangladeshi countryside are filled with many female entrepreneurs who are not only self sufficient but also creating jobs for others.
That was the one of the most respectfully made videos I've seen on this channel in a while. I think he actually wants people in poor conditions to have a better quality of life.
If the general aversion to "free handouts" some have is anything to go by, this is all true. Those in poverty are more than willing to work but can't because it's hard to get and keep a job if you can't transport yourself, buy work clothes and keep them clean, have a place to sleep safely and comfortably to be well rested for the work day.
It's possible. I was homeless. Yes it was hard but having a job significantly improves life. Even if you have to wash your clothes in a KFC bathroom and hand them to dry in your car...a job is the first step as it will help get out.
@@auntphyllis45 unfortunately, not everyone is so fortunate. In my area, they explicitly refuse to hire homeless people, even the ones without anything wrong with them. It's unethical but they hide this discrimination with an endless slew of excuses.
@@mswilson8888 A pure capitalist society is inherently top-down. If the people in power wants to reduce high-paying positions and cut wages for no reason, there's nothing stopping them. If the resulting societal instability is profitable, they will induce societal instability. Capitalism in its purest form justifies slavery in every notion of the word, and it's a system that inherently favours those who already have much at the expense of those who don't, even if they are deserving and skilled. There's a reason Western societies moved towards democracy: to take away power from an increasing oppressive and undeserving aristocracy. If the aristocracy of a country is fair and reasonable, there would be no reason to remove them, and hence the continued use of aristocratic titles in the UK. Everywhere else saw a system too oppressive but also weak.
@Maximilian Robespier There is no fixed amount of cash out there. So no this does not hold true. As a community becomes more prosperous everyone benefits.
I have mixed feelings about this. I come from a very poor upbringing. Parents on welfare, going to foodlockers when our food stamps ran out and sometimes eating nothing but bread for days until the first rolled around only to be broke a week later after rent and bills. That all changed once I got my first real job. After that I promised myself that I would never go back to not having enough money for even toothpaste. That is the only way to succeed is to work your ass off like I did but it's easier said then done unfortunately. We do need more social programs accessible to everyone no matter where you live, not to take care of you but to help you take care of yourself. Job training and job placement for starters. An 18 your old kid with no skills or experienced and only a high school will more often than not fall into their parents cycle of poverty if that chain isn't broken or at least loosened. There needs to be a bigger discussion on this other than just tax rich people. Just my .02.
Conservatives hate you, PragerU is funded by billionaires to tell you that poverty is a character failing, therefore justifying the current system. They will fight against every measure to improve access to resources and education, this video being a bit of a weird outlier but still getting the same moral message across.
@@reubennb2859 ... I'm someone on the autism spectrum, and have quite a few issues. I do my best to succeed. I study as much as I can just to scrape passing grades in college right now. If not for the disability accomodations the college offers, I'd have failed long ago. I fell into that trap of thinking that because I couldn't do it, that because I wasn't contributing to society like a good little person did, that I was worthless. That if _I just tried harder_ everything would be ok and that I can do it. If I just did one more thing, if I just focused more, if I just got myself together- That's not how it is. We run headfirst into our limitations. I want to live in a society where I and people like me- people who, despite their best efforts, just can't overcome all the barriers they have, can still live. Most people are not lazy bottom feeders. Suggesting that failure is a choice is utterly ridiculous.
@@Olivia-W This. You put it perfectly. The current education system isn't built for the neurodiverse, despite their significant cultural and intellectual contribution to society. I find that morally reprehensible, but PragerU and the types of people who generally follow it are fine with the way things currently are. Their worldview is built around seeing people who are less successful suffering for it, and people who are more successful prospering for it. To them, there can be no special accommodations for those who are at an inherent disadvantage, as they don't like to see anyone get anything for free. They'll resort to the 'life is hard' argument to justify anything that makes life hard. In a society that made sense, you would be able to, as you say, achieve a good quality of life by pursuing things that you are good at and interested in, or at least things that aren't seriously draining to somebody who's neuro-atypical. And education ought to be part of the solution for this. Not the one-size-fits-all conservative education system that specifically promotes factual recall and obedience, but something a bit broader.
For every person who works hard and gets ahead there are a dozen right behind them working just as hard and going nowhere. Also it's enormously inefficient to be poor.
Great idea, However, in Australia at least, the government has proven to be incompetent at such things. At the same time the private sector is not primarily concerned with fishing lessons - it is concerned with making money and pleasing stakeholders. As such private businesses have being known to exploit the free labor in exchange for something that may be - could be - possibly - one day - potentially - in galaxy far far away - get a NASA astronaut a job in a MacDonanlds drive through. Ok, a bit hyperbolic - but the point is that when it comes to programs such as "Work for dole" (and many others) there are too many conflicts of interest and that everyone thinks that it is everybody else who should be teaching them how to fish.
No it's "Give a man to fish and he'll vote for you for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he'll still vote for you if you get rid of all the fish and they not know."
I think they both are wrong and fail to address the federal reserve's money printing and the socialism of the elites in power on both Republican and Democrats sides. there is a false middle ground in the hive of crony corporatism. And talking about the deep state and the CIA what do these leeches produce but take tax payers money and use it against the public interest, these are the hidden money grabbing socialists.
Glad I'm not in politics. To find a working system for over 300 million Americans. Hell at least we don't live in china. They have over 1.3 billion people. Would be a horrible job
It's a bit of both, with the food stamp thing, they sorta bad a bad point though. If more people are using food stamps, that's not a bad or a good thing, it means 2 thing. 1 people need food stamps, and 2 more people are using them. If the poverty rate stayed the same, you also need to look at the quality of life for people who are in poverty.
EPLURiBusUNUM I will try to stay neutral as possible but being poor is hard, really hard. One of the thing this video fail to address is that the poor as not poor because their don't have job but are in disadvantage economically and financially. Giving them job won't mean they are out of poverty but rather they are now capable on maintaining themselves independently. I agree that government welfare should be for desperate situations, but in this occasion the poor really need help. I doubt the free market could help significantly to lower poverty, it expensive to be poor (especially the homeless). For a family it cost on average $36 000 for the necessity such as food, clothe, hygiene etc. This is why even if the poor have job to sustained themselves, it won't lift them from poverty. As I say it's expensive to be poor, there have to spent on many basic thing such as the public shower and many other necessity. They probably going to remind so, they have no house, do you how expensive it is. I doubt the the free market could help especially because how expensive it is to keep them alive. There will need external help from other. You just have to look at the serf in medieval era and yet despite having jobs tending the lord, there are still no better. But as you say, dependence on government aid will lead to a tyranny. To my eye, poverty still exist because of corrupt government, failure to strategically used the money and lack of understanding of economic.
This is one of the problems in the US today. Grandparents. Everyone wants to write them off and ignore the fact that they help. They watch your kids when you're at work.. basically for free. They also teach them important life lessons.
+Giantepik R Humanity as a whole? Well... Here's a scenario: "OH SHIT What the...?. Look at that Johnny, Earth just nuked itself..." "Shit" "Yeah..." "..." "Good thing we inhabit two planets now. Lucky us, the human race survives." TLDR; Space travel is key to the long term survival of humanity.
Liberals: "Let's keep giving them temporary money!" Conservatives: "Let's give them sustainable jobs!" Why not have a bit of each? You get $2000 in free money for one time only (nothing more, nothing less), then you get a multitude of opportunities to get a job beginning the moment you sign up for social security (apprenticeship programs and all) to keep the gravy train going, with a mere $50 for every month you're able to hold a job (to behoove you into working just a little harder) until you're above the poverty line, crossing an event horizon where you won't have to go back to social security for a long while, if at all. In short, temporary money at first, sustainable jobs further down the line.
Why do yall always have to do these stuffs? Why does politics have to always come in between? Would you donate deciding on whether they are liberal or conservatives as well?
Well... having been in at least one other country (Jamaica) I can tell you all but the poorest people there have cell phones. AC, flat-screen, a car... nope. But they do have cell phones.
@isak To clarify, I was last in Jamaica in 2005... the pre-smartphone era. Everyone's phones then were cheap bricks and flips, but they had them... and I still didn't until the following year!
I came to realize that poverty was more of a mental state than I realized. I talked to people about a business idea I had that ended up to be successful and found that a person can never be successful if they do not believe they can be. If they believe that they need others or government to live, then that's their truth. If they believe they don't need others to live independently then that's THEIR truth. It all starts with the right mental attitude before anything else.
I'm 100% conservitive on this topic, but as a person from generational welfare, requiring people to work for benifits is not the answer. There is an information gap that those living in poverty just do not understand. It will take lots of opportunities and mental coaching to help those in poverty. Just requiring them to work for benifits exhausts an already exausted mind and spirit. Most do not even realize a new kind of life is possible for them.
"What about the poor houses or the work houses! My taxes go to support them!" Scrooge said to the ones seeking him for charity. Scrooge wasn't greedy or stingy purely to be cruel. He was being taxed on his income too to support these things but being told that it's not enough or worse that they don't work at all. How would you feel?
"Teach a man to fish, but the fish he catches aren't his. They belong to the person paying him to fish, and if he's lucky, he might get paid enough to buy a few fish for himself." -Karl Marx
My aunt was poor and had 9 kids. She received welfare her entire adult life. The majority of her children (my cousins) ended up on welfare and now multiple grandchildren are on welfare. Welfare has become a way of life for that family. They just assume welfare is their primary income.
Why do you think military is important! Who are you trying to defend yourself from! Military is designed to keep wealth and power in the hands of sycophaths.
During the great depression, when jobs were few and opportunities were gone, what happened? The government created the WPA, which built stadiums, roads, dams, airports, libraries, observatories which still stand and are in use to this day... A free handout can create complacency, I'm sure, but if you're not gonna let people starve but yet don't want them complacent, just MAKE UP the jobs so that people can contribute and improve the country. Imagine if the bailout money that saved wall-street was just invested into public works. There'd be jobs and no complaints today about "crumbling infrastructure." Surely the left and right could see the advantages of public works for the benefit of the country, though not necessarily directly profitable (like roads). It fosters patriotism, keeps skills sharp and "trains" the work ethic of the populace.
Imagine if all of the empty plains in the midwest USA became construction sights for temp jobs similar to the WPA. There's enough land to build entire cities, albeit the land does kind of suck.
I applied for such a job, on a road repair crew, they were all Hispanic, but they saw I was white and hired the other guy who was Hispanic. And yes I was qualified and capable of doing the work.
I have always believed a hand up is infinitely better than a hand out...Give the person the tools to succeed and then let them succeed. Rather than, force others to give them everything. My grandfather always said, "If you didn't earn it, it isn't really yours. If you get something for nothing, it has no value."
Here in America, we keep the poor breathing, fed, and even housed, to an extent, but it is a caste system regardless, and they don't want anyone part of the upper class unless they are completely indoctrinated, body, mind, heart, and soul. No one but snobs, are allowed to be snobing it up, so to speak. A liberated person with strong ideals often has a hard time finding a place in the system.
Dylan Sepasyar Yeah, but how do you decide who needs it and who doesn't? I think it's smartest for everyone to pay for each other's healthcare. People who are sick can't work and make money. More people working means more productivity in our economy. Idk that's just how I always thought of it. I'm open to new ideas :)
Well let me tell you a story...I grew up in a single parent home in the 1970s & 1980s. I remember the fight then for things such as food, rent utilities. I worked my ass off when I became old enough to drag myself up and out of the poverty stricken life. There was times I was working 3 jobs at one time. So the mid 1990s rolled around and I started in a line of work that was physically hard it was commercial truck tire repair and replacement. I stuck with it because the demand was year round. After 17 years doing this type of work it broke my body down really bad. And because I couldn't provide an exact date of injury, I couldn't get help anywhere!!! Because my family, friends are poor what in the hell do you think we should do to boot strap ourselves out of this giant shithole?? My wife is the only one working and we have custody of our granddaughter, now you tell me WHO CARES??????
the key word here is help. help just means help, it dose not mean do everything for you. the best kind of help if when you help other to help themselves.
I'm sure this would work for a good amount of people in poverty, but what about single parents who live in poverty and don't have the time to work and take care of their children? There was a story of a mother living in poverty and had to travel a 1-2 hour commute to work in order to receive income, her son was being looked after by his reckless uncle, the son stole his uncle's pistol and shot a girl at school, they were both around 7 years old. This mindset shouldn't be treated like a panacea.
I’m a minority who grew up poor/single mother house hold/ in the quote on quote “hood”. But now I’m better off and have a good career living in in a middle class neighborhood. I was able to get me and my family out of poverty based on the fact that I took opportunities to progress. I worked hard, got a education and good career. I agree with the conservatives. Opportunity is the key to get out of poverty. I feel that welfare/free money from the government makes people lazy. Not wanting to work to get out of there bad situation doesn’t help them. If u want to get out of poverty go do it. U gotta work for what u want. No excuses 🗽💯
Give me a fish, I’ll eat for a day! Teach me to fish, I’ll ask for a rod and reel! Give me a rod and reel, I’ll ask for a boat. Give me a boat, I’ll ask for a trailer to haul it on etc etc etc....some people just want handouts!!
At 3:31 he said require people to work in exchange for social assistance. In other words working for way less than minimum wage to make the rich richer.
I mean it somewhat depends on the person. I was laid off due to Covid so I applied for unemployment, I didn’t receive anything for 4 months, and then I finally received my backpack. This money actually allowed me to buy a cheap car to commute to a higher paying job in the city while I was currently unemployed. My old car broke down so I chose to work for a lower paying job in retail that was walkable before the virus hit.Wouldnt say I was in complete poverty, but having the funds to find a vehicle for better work definitely helped me as far as salary and job prestige. We also have to examine how many people who go on these services stay on these services. I was literally on it less than 6 months and have no intentions on going back.
I understand completely what you are saying. Although both partisans seen to be complying to what is happening, you are disregarding general growth to manipulate your goal. We have achieved a compelling agenda to contain general poverty to a safety standard. This is your goal, end the safety standard and then complain on them as a whole. When in reality it has been sufficient to the point that it has been forgotten what conditions started it.
But we do all the time I've seen it. And also what to they do in the meantime while they get training? Also what happens when for one reason or another they can't get training?
one thing for sure: if the gov train these people, anything outside of gender studies will do 'em good also, how they won't get training by doing a job about road building or construction?
This isn't accurate being someone who's been to many job fairs. this always comes up. 1. education and experience 2. transportation and 3. appearance I know someone who doesn't work for those 3 main reason and all of them require money
We also should require Budget classes in middle and high school. Understanding: Net pay Vs Gross pay Taxes SSI Medicare Mortgage loans Veritable rates Flat rates Credit scores Never take out a loan you can't pay based on Your Net Pay. Balancing a checking account Savings account for emergencies Credit cards
I hope you all know that any PDF file of the transcripts for PragerU's videos can be found on the website. It's very helpful because are a lot easier to share to people (I put screenshot on my instagram story lol) xx
I live in Germany and we have a huge problem with people using the social system to have a nice life without working. Example for a household with a married couple and two kids: Housing is paid for by the government, the couple gets around 900€ for food, clothes etc. AND around 400€ for their kids. That’s 1300€ per month with NO JOB. A low income household of the same constellation with two badly pair jobs would produce (after taxes) around 3000€ of which 1000€ or more goes to rent. If only one of them had a job, they would actually have LESS money than provided in the social welfare system.
Ok I am a conservative leaning Libertarian...I need someone to explain this to me. I get the idea of welfare to work, of finding your own way to get out of poverty...what I don't see is how giving free money helps them.
Well for starters giving people free money DOESN'T help them. It doesn't give them a job so they can be independent. It just gives them the end (money) rather than the means (work) to escape poverty. "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day, teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."
Fell Man well yes we share those views, conservative leaning for life. I was just trying to see how forcing people to give to the poor without giving a tax break for it helps anyone in the equation...and I was hoping I'd get a Liberal answer. Conservatives would freely give their money while Liberals have to force everyone to give (lord knows they wouldn't)
I'm a Libertarian so I think the government should just stay out of the economy for at least the most part. Maybe you should be able to sue for fraud and maybe have some safety regulations but other than that the government should stay out of the economy. It would help everyone overall and get the elite out of our lives.
This definitely makes a lot of sense. I think instead of raising the minimum wage to 15 dollars an hour we should provide people with training to help them get more in demand, high paying jobs. This program would essentially pay for itself with more people being able to pay more into the system.
Jayson Thorne I know! The government SHOULD MAKE MINUM WAGE LIKE THIS. 10 for high school dropout 15 for High school graduate 20 for Associate 25 for Bachelor 30 for Masters Then companies will stop demanding Bachelors for 10 per hour jobs.
And what about for people who HAVE experienced poverty, but found out how to get out and then did so? Not just my own life experience, either... look up Dave Ramsey sometime.
Instead of welfare, give the poor business loans (qualified ones). Sure it'll be tough at first, but it will greatly help future generations. The ability to create jobs for the poor AND the poor owing business is key. Getting a job only keeps you hovering around the poverty line.
In my opinion, the best way to get people out of poverty is Universal Basic Income. It would be a government program where every month every citizen would receive a certain amount of money, maybe $2000. There would be no strings attached. Then people in poverty could use the money to better their situation and get hopefully get out of the cycle of poverty. This would also help boost the economy because people would have more disposable money. Ofc, this money wouldn’t just be printed into existence (because then there would be inflation :/). UBI would replace all other welfare, and use that money. It would also take over some of the army’s budget because we are not at war rn. Please let me know what you think, I would love to see your thoughts on this!
Funny then, how poverty rates are far lower in Scandinavia, where they have a huge social safety net. AND their economies are growing faster than ours. Look, it seems like providing healthcare to all and taxing the rich more would make people lazy, but in countries where it's implemented, it's not the case. You still have to work to make a living, but when you do work full time, you're able to survive without worrying about health insurance and student loan debt.
Oh yeah because 1)Big tax rates don't just apply to the top earning rich people in Scandanavia. It applies to almost EVERYONE. 2) Their economy is growing more because they don't tax or regulate the shit out of corporations so those corporations have more Money to do what they do produce better.
Yeah they was already working not a mental reason for a check, The government gave them free money to boost their business or what ever they spent it on they was happy as hell. But it is not the same situation for USA. Don't confuse it.
I have never said no to work. I have worked hard and have a lot of experience. I moved to CA from TX and suddenly my experience means nothing without a degree. I have 15 years experience in CX service, Front Desk, Receptions, Office, and Call Center work. I keep getting the "overqualified", "we went with someone else", and "we prefer someone with a degree" notice in my inbox and at interviews. What is going on here? So far I have only been hired at a fast food chain, a place I have no experience at all, that required 3 interviews. This state is a joke, and I can only hope that things change soon. There are empty jobs waiting to be filled everywhere, but they simply aren't hiring people, refuse to train, or have no programs available to become qualified or certified for the jobs. Start training programs, so someone like me doesn't have to work part time, for minimum wage, with required open availability. That is no way to survive after being an active, hard working member of the workforce for this long.
Getting hired seems so complicated nowadays. I am close to 50 now and have had a few random converstions with people in my area who agree that it is so much more complicated and difficult to get a job. The last one I got hired at seemed so involved. It was like getting a clearance to work at the White House.
Balance is needed. Work should be promoted, but welfare, health care, food and stufd have to be provided for the poorer ones. A universal basic income, in my opinion, in the best way to do this.
"Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you feed him for a lifetime." What if it takes a week for a man to learn how to fish?
So, in exchange for a social welfare program, would conservatives be willing to support a federal jobs program? One that guarantees a job so long as income levels and conditions are met.
Extremely right-wing conservatives do not actually want people to work. They want a rigid hierarchy where people can't move up or down, and where they hold all the power. You'll notice people who move up in life become more conservative up to a point.
HonesteBroker2020 he’s not lying check out the class mobility the us 27 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Social_Mobility_Index#Global_Social_Mobility_Index_(2020)
my friend works 50 hours a week in low class resturant jobs and is still right on the poverty line , i love to see you tell him that he doesnt work hard enough
Liam linson So tell him to get a job at a high class restaurant where he can make more money and work less hours. Makes more sense than bitching about it and feeling sorry for himself
Yeah. Keep telling yourself everyone stands a fair chance because you personally are financially progressing. Welfare is for people who work 40 hours a week yet are still starving. Unless they do away with outsourcing and tackle immigration head on nothing will change. As far as forcing them to find a formal job. Some people who need medical cannabis for things like glaucoma, epilepsy and PTSD will not be able to find employment because cannabis has not been decriminalized. Legalization means nothing if you still have to choose between treating your condition and working a documented job. Solve those issues or shut up about "getting things without working for them".
Gotta create better paying jobs for this to work. And for that to happen, our educational system needs to pretty much be destroyed and rebuilt. I have very little faith in that happening within the next 20 years
Saying that conservatives are the ones who want people to escape poverty just doesn't stand up to facts. Support for things that allow people to escape poverty: funding for education, healthcare, infrastructure, government programs etc. require two things that conservatives are most opposed to, government spending and taxes. As an uneducated worker in the USA with little access, you're likely earning a conservative supported, pitiful minimum wage with no real opportunity for upward mobility. At the end of the day, regardless of your talents, intelligence and hardwork, if you grow up extremely poor you just wont have the same opportunities afforded to those more wealthy.
Hugo Dowd conservatives dont want HIGH amount of gov spending along with no stupid gov spendings, conservatives care about the operitunity for geting out of poverty.
Conservative want opportunity for upward mobility. We want people to become independent. Just like a child where the parents baby them and do everything for them, that child will never learn to be independent. A parent would be doing a huge disservice for the child by not letting the child learn for themselves and become independent. Conservatives want the same for people so they can learn to be independent.
I watched this because I was looking for mentors on how to achieve better financial security, as usual no one offers answers, I have no debt, but a minimum wage job makes very little differance, I am elderly, investments have poor returns, it really seems hopeless
Education is personally what got me out. I went to school to study computer science and am currently a software developer but also taught myself how to repair cars as well as I studied anatomy & economics to help diversify my skillset. I always wondered how much this problem would change in America if we invested in our education system more and taught people how to be more productive rather than just throw money at the problem (progressives) or shun poor people as lazy (conservatives).
@Andrea Mendenhall Better than making education into a profit oriented machine where only rich children can study and get highly paid jobs while poor children will always stay poor due to no education or crushing debt.
Here in Romania, if you want to enter in a welfare program, you first have to work for the community, this means doing things like clearing roads, planting trees, etc. Here in Romania the unnimploiment rate is very low,and almoust all people who use the welfare program are old people who cannot find a job because they are very close to the pensioning age and so the entrepeneurs cannot make much profit from them.
Missing an important point. We have government programs and large social safety nets because employers don't pay their employees a living wage. That is why you often see people (mostly with kids) working more than one job, still qualifying for government assistance programs. Essentially, CEOs are footing the bill to taxpayers so we have to pay for government assistance programs (like foodstamps and medicade) instead of them paying their employees a living wage to begin with.
This argument has a fundamental mathematical flaw. That flaw being: that (unless you make all incomes equal) no matter what you do, twenty percent of the population will always be poorer than the other 80%. THIS is mathematically inevitable. All the education and opportunity in the world can't change this fact. Combine this with the fact, that in capitalism, the most profitable selling price for goods is based on the average income of the consumer base. What you end up with is a mathematical requirement that there will always be 20 percent poorest population and that 20 percent will ALWAYS be unable to afford on their own everything that they need. The disease is incurable all you do is treat the symptoms. Thus it doesn't matter whether social programs fix poverty or not because (MATHEMATICALLY) poverty can't be fixed. The same forces that make 1 + 1 = 2, ensure that there will ALWAYS be a wealthiest 20% and a poorest 20% and capitalism ensures that said poorest 20% will always struggle to survive. Hence the only moral option left if to look after the poor and help them to at least to become better consumers and to ensure they can live comfortably off of a bottom rung job. (both of which help drive the economy).
This is exactly what I'm always saying. If everyone gets a college education it becomes worthless because they all aren't guaranteed a good job. There will always be people who get the bottom jobs in a competitive economy. You are right about some people being at the bottom however I propose we can lower the percent of people in poverty(maybe 5% of people would be considered in poverty) 90% of people in middle class, and 5% of people would be the new 1% we commonly refer to.
That's not true. The government spends nearly a trillion dollars on all the welfare programs. Not only that but there's a lot of jobs that are in demand right now begging for people. They can't find people so there's a shortage if anything. Which is why I know construction workers who train for 3-4 years than start making an easy 100K a year because there's so little people. People are in poverty due to terrible decisions. They have children at a young age and they didn't go to school or gain a skill. Someone can make 15 dollars an hour and he'll be fine for example. Another person can make that same pay but has a kid. Now he's stuck in poverty. Make good decisions and you won't be in poverty. Or not even good decisions, just don't make bad ones.
i was homeless and tried to get a job. but who wants to hire someone with no phone or address. I had to do low paying work that was cash under the table type. till I saved up enough to get a place. and even after that employers would look at that gap in work history. I never begged not even to the government.
I hired a guy a while back and was paying him $17 an hour. His girlfriend/ baby momma told him he'd either have to quit his job or move out because his income jeopardize her welfare. At first he moved out but then started claiming he couldn't work due to overwhelming anxiety, quit his job and was trying to get ssi. Perfect.
Andrea Mendenhall This video purports that progressives are for taking money from the wealthy to give money to the poor; that progressives just simply want to throw money at the poor. That’s an absurd blanket statement.
Andrea Mendenhall Considering there are millions of progressives, anything to suggest they only want one thing or have one solution is a blanket statement.
I work at a company that right now is having major labour issues. We offer 42 hours a week 52 weeks a year. The wages range from about 13.50$ a hour starting to over $20 for established workers. The company offers dollar for dollar matched RRSP contributions, group medical and life insurance, and profit sharing bonus that was 6% this year. There is an option to receive a free power engineering course through the NSCC open to all employees that has a $4 per hour guaranteed raise upon completion.....and can't find enough workers to fully operate. The only real requirement is grade 12 education. People just don't want to work...period.
I agree. Giving people the power and opportunity to make a better life for themselves is the key to escaping poverty. Simply throwing your money at something doesn't solve anything.
I agree, but you can’t deny that welfare money helps people with their basic needs ( food & shelter ). Of course, one HAS TO want to work for themselves. But how about the ( sometimes not existing ) job opportunities? 🤔
Depending on where you live, this can be a real issue!
@12BJJohnson : In some cases, it's true.....
Rich want you be poor make them rich keep you poor...at will employment is for rich...the rich make rules. Yes welfare and throw money doesn't help punish rich or poor doesn't help...still need safety net for both rich or poor...rich can become poor or rags to riches. How you know when you never been rich or poor or born poor or homeless??
Teaching someone a skill is important but the problem isn’t that they can’t learn it’s that they are too busy working a dead end job, we give them financial support for college or so they don’t have to worry about money now then they go on and make money and move up
4Tifier yes one time I tried to break a window by throwing money at it. It didn’t work the same is true here
I have no problem helping someone to their feet, but if they lay back down again, that's on them. No more assistance.
100% bro hard work and diligence is pure integrity
‘Merica
@@grandusurslywek5261 life is all about hard work
@@forevershampoo I agree !
In either situation, whether looking to get up or lie down, isn’t it worthwhile to remain curious and ask a simple yet effective question that makes both individuals conscious of what is important to each one, that being, “why?” Then, “why?”, a few more times -
what may seem obvious to one is not obvious to another.
Even asking the person who is seeking to “help” another can reveal motives that are not there to make the general, long-term situation better, but just as a quick “it made me feel good to do it” dopamine-surge, hit-and-run, kind of moment, that doesn’t mean a person really cares for another’s situation, taking into account a person’s life experiences including trauma, surroundings including community and level of access to nature, lack of awareness/education, and poor emotional intelligence and mental/physical health, that may have/are contributing to the poverty-person’s level of functioning.
Despite the good intentions of the “helper”, if it is not about relationship-building, more pain and suffering and falling back down into a hole could be doing more damage in the long run.
"give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish he'll eat for life."
Unless the Koch brothers buy the pond and sell the fish back to him at overinflated price.
@@johnblackburn6980 you mean the privatised jails? The ones deeming it unnecessary to rehabilitate people in order to maximise profit?
NO THATS HATE SPEECH!!! REEEE!!! -like every leftist ever
@@alexbrittain8970 no it's dumb speech
@@santouchesantouche2873 how? the same logic applies
That's why we need a jobs bill, infrastructure investments and job opportunities and training through non governmental and charitable organizations as well as community colleges!!
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Having your own income from working even has positive effects on mental health. I'm not saying welfare should be abolished. I'm only saying that welfare should only be used for emergencies as a temporary solution to help people manage, and then helping them get jobs. I also think more people should learn trades instead of going to college, seeing as so many college students major in subjects that will never help them get jobs. That is only my humble opinion. In short I believe working benefits both the individual as well as society as a whole.
I agree with that- that work gives people dignity. However, you have to get someone to hire you and there is a lot of competition:
The working poor may a car, but not have teeth- as the cost has skyrocketed, like everything else.
How many are willing to hire people without teeth? Extractions themselves cost hundreds of dollars, fixing the teeth thousands.
Not many poor people have the money to fix them.
You have to address the stigma issues first, or the poor are not “ employable “ even with skills.
I like the idea of work programs. I was on one in my teens, and went on to work 30 years- although my jobs were low wage.
I was a preschool teacher and a caregiver for special people🌹
No retirement. At least I cared for hundreds of people and feel good about that.
I’m deeply suspicious of any political party that advertises itself as a party for the poor for the simple fact that such a party would have a direct interest in keeping people poor, and thus dependent on them as to maintain a voter base.
More people will vote for you if those "poor people" saw an improvement. Those improvement is the sure way to maintain a voter base, not to keep them poor.
@@AnimMouse I don't think he's talking about keeping the same people poor, but using the same ideas to tempt younger poor people unaware that it was those same ideas that got them in that situation.
In a nutshell, the party sympathetic to the poor is at a point where one wonders if they're sympathetic to them because they need them to exist?
Are they holding everyone back by enac - COMMUNISM! - oh sorry, woah. I dunno what that was. Where did that come from?
Truth is all political parties of real political relevance are all parties of the rich, by the rich and for the rich
Well we're talking about ideologies not political parties
Who could possibly be against anti-poverty?
You like people being poor?
And so, over the last 50 years, the US government has spent more than 16 TRILLION DOLLARS in its war against poverty…
So, how well is that working?Not well. It’s fuelled generational welfare dependency and economic resentment.
Trillions of dollars and the needle has scarcely moved.
When Lyndon Johnson declared war on poverty, the rate was 19 percent. We now have a 15 percent poverty rate.
Need it be said, America’s poor live lives of the comfortable middle class by global standards.
In 1964, children in poverty was at 23 percent. Now? It’s 22 percent.
This has been a wasteful disaster, fomenting nothing but resentment, dependency and social apathy.
Tax the rich? The rich currently pay the vast majority of taxes. These taxes inevitably slow economic growth, decrease actual tax revenue and hurt the working poor.
Please check out my book “Deconstructing Social Justice”. I promise you, you’re in for more than a few surprises!
I'm a liberal and I agree with every word. I'm from Bangladesh, a really poor country, continually hit by natural calamities and it's really hard to eradicate poverty in this densely populated country. Yet Bangladesh has succeeded to reduce rate of 'extreme poverty' from 44.2% in 1991 to only 12.9% in 2016.
The most successful program that Bangladesh Government in cooperation with International Community took was "Food in exchange of work". In this program, the extreme poor people, especially women were offered food for their family in exchange of working in government infrastructure development program. This program helped government to develop crucial infrastructures like roads, dams to save crop from sudden flood etc, as well as grew habit among rural poors, specially women to participate in economic activities. Now a days, despite being a Muslim majority traditional country, Bangladeshi countryside are filled with many female entrepreneurs who are not only self sufficient but also creating jobs for others.
better than starving
Daway Legit Zimbabwe is Democratic
The murderous enslaving rape cult of Pedophile Mohammed brings misery where ever "the sword of Islam' goes.
Jim Rr IDIOT!
That was the one of the most respectfully made videos I've seen on this channel in a while. I think he actually wants people in poor conditions to have a better quality of life.
If the general aversion to "free handouts" some have is anything to go by, this is all true. Those in poverty are more than willing to work but can't because it's hard to get and keep a job if you can't transport yourself, buy work clothes and keep them clean, have a place to sleep safely and comfortably to be well rested for the work day.
Exactly. You can't just go get a job and then all of your problems are solved.
It's possible. I was homeless. Yes it was hard but having a job significantly improves life. Even if you have to wash your clothes in a KFC bathroom and hand them to dry in your car...a job is the first step as it will help get out.
@@auntphyllis45 unfortunately, not everyone is so fortunate. In my area, they explicitly refuse to hire homeless people, even the ones without anything wrong with them. It's unethical but they hide this discrimination with an endless slew of excuses.
Exactly
@@TheLucidDreamer12 mybe the government should trained them and hired them
Most people who are poor work!!! So that means cost of living is too high and jobs are not paying people enough to survive.
@Maximilian Robespier well then capitalism needs to be fixed when the rich keep getting richer and the poor keep getting poorer.
Or it means that people are not willing to put in the effort and work necessary to obtain a higher-paying job.
@Maximilian Robespier Capitalism makes everyone richer sure the rich get richer faster but the poor don't get poorer.
@@mswilson8888 A pure capitalist society is inherently top-down. If the people in power wants to reduce high-paying positions and cut wages for no reason, there's nothing stopping them. If the resulting societal instability is profitable, they will induce societal instability. Capitalism in its purest form justifies slavery in every notion of the word, and it's a system that inherently favours those who already have much at the expense of those who don't, even if they are deserving and skilled. There's a reason Western societies moved towards democracy: to take away power from an increasing oppressive and undeserving aristocracy. If the aristocracy of a country is fair and reasonable, there would be no reason to remove them, and hence the continued use of aristocratic titles in the UK. Everywhere else saw a system too oppressive but also weak.
@Maximilian Robespier There is no fixed amount of cash out there. So no this does not hold true. As a community becomes more prosperous everyone benefits.
I have mixed feelings about this. I come from a very poor upbringing. Parents on welfare, going to foodlockers when our food stamps ran out and sometimes eating nothing but bread for days until the first rolled around only to be broke a week later after rent and bills. That all changed once I got my first real job. After that I promised myself that I would never go back to not having enough money for even toothpaste. That is the only way to succeed is to work your ass off like I did but it's easier said then done unfortunately. We do need more social programs accessible to everyone no matter where you live, not to take care of you but to help you take care of yourself. Job training and job placement for starters. An 18 your old kid with no skills or experienced and only a high school will more often than not fall into their parents cycle of poverty if that chain isn't broken or at least loosened. There needs to be a bigger discussion on this other than just tax rich people. Just my .02.
Conservatives hate you, PragerU is funded by billionaires to tell you that poverty is a character failing, therefore justifying the current system. They will fight against every measure to improve access to resources and education, this video being a bit of a weird outlier but still getting the same moral message across.
@@reubennb2859 ... I'm someone on the autism spectrum, and have quite a few issues. I do my best to succeed. I study as much as I can just to scrape passing grades in college right now. If not for the disability accomodations the college offers, I'd have failed long ago.
I fell into that trap of thinking that because I couldn't do it, that because I wasn't contributing to society like a good little person did, that I was worthless. That if _I just tried harder_ everything would be ok and that I can do it. If I just did one more thing, if I just focused more, if I just got myself together-
That's not how it is. We run headfirst into our limitations. I want to live in a society where I and people like me- people who, despite their best efforts, just can't overcome all the barriers they have, can still live.
Most people are not lazy bottom feeders. Suggesting that failure is a choice is utterly ridiculous.
@@Olivia-W This. You put it perfectly. The current education system isn't built for the neurodiverse, despite their significant cultural and intellectual contribution to society. I find that morally reprehensible, but PragerU and the types of people who generally follow it are fine with the way things currently are. Their worldview is built around seeing people who are less successful suffering for it, and people who are more successful prospering for it. To them, there can be no special accommodations for those who are at an inherent disadvantage, as they don't like to see anyone get anything for free. They'll resort to the 'life is hard' argument to justify anything that makes life hard.
In a society that made sense, you would be able to, as you say, achieve a good quality of life by pursuing things that you are good at and interested in, or at least things that aren't seriously draining to somebody who's neuro-atypical. And education ought to be part of the solution for this. Not the one-size-fits-all conservative education system that specifically promotes factual recall and obedience, but something a bit broader.
@@reubennb2859 This is the best thing I've read in awhile. Finally someone with a brain.
For every person who works hard and gets ahead there are a dozen right behind them working just as hard and going nowhere. Also it's enormously inefficient to be poor.
Literally the shortest way to sum this video up.
"Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he'll eat for a lifetime."
Thank you, I was wondering what direction this video was gonna go to.
Great idea, However, in Australia at least, the government has proven to be incompetent at such things. At the same time the private sector is not primarily concerned with fishing lessons - it is concerned with making money and pleasing stakeholders. As such private businesses have being known to exploit the free labor in exchange for something that may be - could be - possibly - one day - potentially - in galaxy far far away - get a NASA astronaut a job in a MacDonanlds drive through.
Ok, a bit hyperbolic - but the point is that when it comes to programs such as "Work for dole" (and many others) there are too many conflicts of interest and that everyone thinks that it is everybody else who should be teaching them how to fish.
Give a man a fish and he'll sell it for drug money. Teach a man to fish and he'll starve for there's no fish to fish.
Its more like "Teach a man to fish and he'll eat for a lifetime. Give a man a fish, and he'll vote for you"
No it's
"Give a man to fish and he'll vote for you for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he'll still vote for you if you get rid of all the fish and they not know."
Both so very important. Managing to get the balance right is the true challenge...
I think they both are wrong and fail to address the federal reserve's money printing and the socialism of the elites in power on both Republican and Democrats sides. there is a false middle ground in the hive of crony corporatism. And talking about the deep state and the CIA what do these leeches produce but take tax payers money and use it against the public interest, these are the hidden money grabbing socialists.
Glad I'm not in politics. To find a working system for over 300 million Americans.
Hell at least we don't live in china. They have over 1.3 billion people. Would be a horrible job
Ya I say a thing on that. Bad stuff.
It's a bit of both, with the food stamp thing, they sorta bad a bad point though. If more people are using food stamps, that's not a bad or a good thing, it means 2 thing. 1 people need food stamps, and 2 more people are using them. If the poverty rate stayed the same, you also need to look at the quality of life for people who are in poverty.
EPLURiBusUNUM I will try to stay neutral as possible but being poor is hard, really hard. One of the thing this video fail to address is that the poor as not poor because their don't have job but are in disadvantage economically and financially. Giving them job won't mean they are out of poverty but rather they are now capable on maintaining themselves independently. I agree that government welfare should be for desperate situations, but in this occasion the poor really need help. I doubt the free market could help significantly to lower poverty, it expensive to be poor (especially the homeless). For a family it cost on average $36 000 for the necessity such as food, clothe, hygiene etc. This is why even if the poor have job to sustained themselves, it won't lift them from poverty. As I say it's expensive to be poor, there have to spent on many basic thing such as the public shower and many other necessity. They probably going to remind so, they have no house, do you how expensive it is. I doubt the the free market could help especially because how expensive it is to keep them alive. There will need external help from other. You just have to look at the serf in medieval era and yet despite having jobs tending the lord, there are still no better.
But as you say, dependence on government aid will lead to a tyranny. To my eye, poverty still exist because of corrupt government, failure to strategically used the money and lack of understanding of economic.
This is one of the problems in the US today. Grandparents. Everyone wants to write them off and ignore the fact that they help.
They watch your kids when you're at work.. basically for free. They also teach them important life lessons.
Many old people don't understand times nowadays
Higher wages, lower working hours, unemployment insurance, strong worker association and health insurance paid for by the tax. $ 300 in tax shelter
That is EXACTLY what the US Government should have done with those trillions of dollars.
Giantepik R
That could have funded NASA and people have been to Mars decades ago.
MiguelPmpM but what kind of benefit will it yield for humanity as a whole?
Look i landed on mars. Poverty is still at an all time low! What now?
Giantepik R at an all time Low would be a good thing
+Giantepik R
Humanity as a whole?
Well... Here's a scenario:
"OH SHIT What the...?. Look at that Johnny, Earth just nuked itself..."
"Shit"
"Yeah..."
"..."
"Good thing we inhabit two planets now. Lucky us, the human race survives."
TLDR; Space travel is key to the long term survival of humanity.
Robo Warrior it will be long before we can achieve space travel AND survival in outer space
So basically,
Liberals: "Let's keep giving them temporary money!"
Conservatives: "Let's give them sustainable jobs!"
Steve Craft i vote for conservatives then
Steve Craft well... not really
Most people on welfare work.
Liberals: "Let's keep giving them temporary money!"
Conservatives: "Let's give them sustainable jobs!"
Why not have a bit of each? You get $2000 in free money for one time only (nothing more, nothing less), then you get a multitude of opportunities to get a job beginning the moment you sign up for social security (apprenticeship programs and all) to keep the gravy train going, with a mere $50 for every month you're able to hold a job (to behoove you into working just a little harder) until you're above the poverty line, crossing an event horizon where you won't have to go back to social security for a long while, if at all.
In short, temporary money at first, sustainable jobs further down the line.
Why do yall always have to do these stuffs? Why does politics have to always come in between? Would you donate deciding on whether they are liberal or conservatives as well?
Valuable “Entrepreneurship” is the solution!
obama I can go pull weeds and do landscaping for free .
@obama I have investors, I can do it for free.
1:56 Wow if the poor in America can afford those, you have nothing to complain about, compared to the rest of the world.
Well... having been in at least one other country (Jamaica) I can tell you all but the poorest people there have cell phones.
AC, flat-screen, a car... nope. But they do have cell phones.
I think you're equating impoverished with homeless.
@isak To clarify, I was last in Jamaica in 2005... the pre-smartphone era. Everyone's phones then were cheap bricks and flips, but they had them... and I still didn't until the following year!
@isak Well, buddy, I sure hope you can find some way to improve your lot in life... hang in there!
What about the disabled and seniors that can no longer work and only have SSDI?
The disabled are always overlooked.
Just like this video
People have no clue
This video relates to people who are capable to work but they don't and we keep giving them free money.
You're too stupid to understand the point of this video.
George Gordner So that would be disability and Social Security. Not welfare.
You’re mixing things up.
@Andrea Mendenhall No one mentioned their political party in this thread? lol
Abolish welfare. Charity only.
No matter what the US spends in welfare, it's completely miniscule compared to the military budget.
Its welfare budget is 2 trillion
I came to realize that poverty was more of a mental state than I realized. I talked to people about a business idea I had that ended up to be successful and found that a person can never be successful if they do not believe they can be. If they believe that they need others or government to live, then that's their truth. If they believe they don't need others to live independently then that's THEIR truth. It all starts with the right mental attitude before anything else.
I'm 100% conservitive on this topic, but as a person from generational welfare, requiring people to work for benifits is not the answer. There is an information gap that those living in poverty just do not understand. It will take lots of opportunities and mental coaching to help those in poverty. Just requiring them to work for benifits exhausts an already exausted mind and spirit. Most do not even realize a new kind of life is possible for them.
"What about the poor houses or the work houses! My taxes go to support them!" Scrooge said to the ones seeking him for charity. Scrooge wasn't greedy or stingy purely to be cruel. He was being taxed on his income too to support these things but being told that it's not enough or worse that they don't work at all. How would you feel?
There will be people forever will be in poverty no matter what you do for them.
I work 40 hours a week , i have huge debt, i paid rent , no car and still poor with debt.
How is it going ?
"Teach a man to fish, but the fish he catches aren't his. They belong to the person paying him to fish, and if he's lucky, he might get paid enough to buy a few fish for himself." -Karl Marx
My aunt was poor and had 9 kids. She received welfare her entire adult life. The majority of her children (my cousins) ended up on welfare and now multiple grandchildren are on welfare. Welfare has become a way of life for that family. They just assume welfare is their primary income.
The UK government spends 1/3 of its annual revenue on benefits, whilst our military shrinks and is left with the crumbs for their budget
And that's supposed to be a bad thing? Oh yeah right you're the ex empire who wants to control their colonies with brutality. Idiot.
Our military is not shrinking; it is used in interventionist efforts instead of seeking justice on behalf on American citizens.
Never mind; I got the countries confused. Oy, I feel like Joe Biden.
Why do you think military is important!
Who are you trying to defend yourself from!
Military is designed to keep wealth and power in the hands of sycophaths.
Are you at war? Move to America, we have a bloated military budget and still can't take care of our soldiers.
During the great depression, when jobs were few and opportunities were gone, what happened? The government created the WPA, which built stadiums, roads, dams, airports, libraries, observatories which still stand and are in use to this day... A free handout can create complacency, I'm sure, but if you're not gonna let people starve but yet don't want them complacent, just MAKE UP the jobs so that people can contribute and improve the country. Imagine if the bailout money that saved wall-street was just invested into public works. There'd be jobs and no complaints today about "crumbling infrastructure." Surely the left and right could see the advantages of public works for the benefit of the country, though not necessarily directly profitable (like roads). It fosters patriotism, keeps skills sharp and "trains" the work ethic of the populace.
Imagine if all of the empty plains in the midwest USA became construction sights for temp jobs similar to the WPA. There's enough land to build entire cities, albeit the land does kind of suck.
joshua kim The only workers who would take such jobs today would be Hispanic.
I applied for such a job, on a road repair crew, they were all Hispanic, but they saw I was white and hired the other guy who was Hispanic. And yes I was qualified and capable of doing the work.
To be fair, they could be worried that you could get skin cancer.
During the great depression the three 1934 general strikes scared the shit out of the capitalists.
I left the Democratic party in 1982. I have never looked back.
I have always believed a hand up is infinitely better than a hand out...Give the person the tools to succeed and then let them succeed. Rather than, force others to give them everything. My grandfather always said, "If you didn't earn it, it isn't really yours. If you get something for nothing, it has no value."
Poors in USA have a car, plasm tv and many things.
Poors in latin Amreica have hungry and nothing more
Here in America, we keep the poor breathing, fed, and even housed, to an extent, but it is a caste system regardless, and they don't want anyone part of the upper class unless they are completely indoctrinated, body, mind, heart, and soul. No one but snobs, are allowed to be snobing it up, so to speak. A liberated person with strong ideals often has a hard time finding a place in the system.
what about those who have worked but no longer can?
dan hardy
Why can't they?
Marlon Moncrieffe ex: get in car crash, have no family, need to pay
And other similar scenarios
I believe those are the only people who should get welfare in that regard.
Nicole Le
Did they get insurance?
Dylan Sepasyar Yeah, but how do you decide who needs it and who doesn't? I think it's smartest for everyone to pay for each other's healthcare. People who are sick can't work and make money. More people working means more productivity in our economy. Idk that's just how I always thought of it. I'm open to new ideas :)
Well let me tell you a story...I grew up in a single parent home in the 1970s & 1980s. I remember the fight then for things such as food, rent utilities. I worked my ass off when I became old enough to drag myself up and out of the poverty stricken life. There was times I was working 3 jobs at one time. So the mid 1990s rolled around and I started in a line of work that was physically hard it was commercial truck tire repair and replacement. I stuck with it because the demand was year round. After 17 years doing this type of work it broke my body down really bad. And because I couldn't provide an exact date of injury, I couldn't get help anywhere!!! Because my family, friends are poor what in the hell do you think we should do to boot strap ourselves out of this giant shithole?? My wife is the only one working and we have custody of our granddaughter, now you tell me WHO CARES??????
the key word here is help. help just means help, it dose not mean do everything for you. the best kind of help if when you help other to help themselves.
PLEASE SIR, COME TO ARGENTINA AND TELL THIS TO THE PEOPLE RIGHT HERE!!! ALL THE BEST
20 trillion you say? Funding NASA that amount could have sent men to Mars last decade.
dante love his point is the needs of poor people don't matter for the sake of the entire human race.
You'd be surprised. I know conservatives that think people should work or starve.
those sound like shitty conservatives. the idea is that you should work AND starve.
Дмитрий Колесов you're mixing up conservatism and socialism
why are so against conservatives Дмитрий Колесов
Kind of opposite of getting something for nothing progressive fantasies.
Did you watch the video?
Where does the $20 trillion number come from? I can not seem to find a reference or source.
I'm sure this would work for a good amount of people in poverty, but what about single parents who live in poverty and don't have the time to work and take care of their children? There was a story of a mother living in poverty and had to travel a 1-2 hour commute to work in order to receive income, her son was being looked after by his reckless uncle, the son stole his uncle's pistol and shot a girl at school, they were both around 7 years old. This mindset shouldn't be treated like a panacea.
I’m a minority who grew up poor/single mother house hold/ in the quote on quote “hood”. But now I’m better off and have a good career living in in a middle class neighborhood. I was able to get me and my family out of poverty based on the fact that I took opportunities to progress. I worked hard, got a education and good career. I agree with the conservatives. Opportunity is the key to get out of poverty. I feel that welfare/free money from the government makes people lazy. Not wanting to work to get out of there bad situation doesn’t help them. If u want to get out of poverty go do it. U gotta work for what u want. No excuses 🗽💯
I like this vedeo because it helps to bring progressives and conservatives closer together :)
And it gives good arguments.
Give me a fish, I’ll eat for a day! Teach me to fish, I’ll ask for a rod and reel! Give me a rod and reel, I’ll ask for a boat. Give me a boat, I’ll ask for a trailer to haul it on etc etc etc....some people just want handouts!!
And those deserve to stay homeless with no welfare but not all homeless or people on welfare want this.
At 3:31 he said require people to work in exchange for social assistance. In other words working for way less than minimum wage to make the rich richer.
I mean it somewhat depends on the person. I was laid off due to Covid so I applied for unemployment, I didn’t receive anything for 4 months, and then I finally received my backpack. This money actually allowed me to buy a cheap car to commute to a higher paying job in the city while I was currently unemployed. My old car broke down so I chose to work for a lower paying job in retail that was walkable before the virus hit.Wouldnt say I was in complete poverty, but having the funds to find a vehicle for better work definitely helped me as far as salary and job prestige. We also have to examine how many people who go on these services stay on these services. I was literally on it less than 6 months and have no intentions on going back.
I understand completely what you are saying. Although both partisans seen to be complying to what is happening, you are disregarding general growth to manipulate your goal. We have achieved a compelling agenda to contain general poverty to a safety standard. This is your goal, end the safety standard and then complain on them as a whole. When in reality it has been sufficient to the point that it has been forgotten what conditions started it.
government can offer training and jobs instead of simply giving money. that would lift them out of poverty.
And if they get trained and there are no jobs what then? they should still starve?
LegoSwordViedos we wouldn't be training them on something that they won't get a job in.
But we do all the time I've seen it. And also what to they do in the meantime while they get training? Also what happens when for one reason or another they can't get training?
one thing for sure: if the gov train these people, anything outside of gender studies will do 'em good
also, how they won't get training by doing a job about road building or construction?
Last of the grey Jedi if they can't get training they can work at a place like McDonald's
Another point:
Hard work and discipline, which results in personal success, deminishes destructive passions.
There's an important economist for you: In order for act to be moral, the act must be free.
Who's that, Conservatives?
This isn't accurate being someone who's been to many job fairs. this always comes up.
1. education and experience
2. transportation
and 3. appearance
I know someone who doesn't work for those 3 main reason and all of them require money
We also should require Budget classes in middle and high school.
Understanding:
Net pay Vs Gross pay
Taxes
SSI
Medicare
Mortgage loans
Veritable rates
Flat rates
Credit scores
Never take out a loan you can't pay based on Your Net Pay.
Balancing a checking account
Savings account for emergencies
Credit cards
Welfare does not help people meet their basic needs especially with housing costs
I say free education would be the way to go then.
You don't have to go to university to be successful...
I hope you all know that any PDF file of the transcripts for PragerU's videos can be found on the website. It's very helpful because are a lot easier to share to people (I put screenshot on my instagram story lol) xx
"There Is Only One Way Out of Poverty"
DEATH
I live in Germany and we have a huge problem with people using the social system to have a nice life without working. Example for a household with a married couple and two kids: Housing is paid for by the government, the couple gets around 900€ for food, clothes etc. AND around 400€ for their kids. That’s 1300€ per month with NO JOB. A low income household of the same constellation with two badly pair jobs would produce (after taxes) around 3000€ of which 1000€ or more goes to rent. If only one of them had a job, they would actually have LESS money than provided in the social welfare system.
This is about stability of basic needs keeping groups together, classmates, family, couples, dogs and owners
using both would be more useful
(in a perfect world, that is)
Ok I am a conservative leaning Libertarian...I need someone to explain this to me. I get the idea of welfare to work, of finding your own way to get out of poverty...what I don't see is how giving free money helps them.
Well for starters giving people free money DOESN'T help them. It doesn't give them a job so they can be independent. It just gives them the end (money) rather than the means (work) to escape poverty.
"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day, teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."
Fell Man well yes we share those views, conservative leaning for life. I was just trying to see how forcing people to give to the poor without giving a tax break for it helps anyone in the equation...and I was hoping I'd get a Liberal answer. Conservatives would freely give their money while Liberals have to force everyone to give (lord knows they wouldn't)
I'm a Libertarian so I think the government should just stay out of the economy for at least the most part. Maybe you should be able to sue for fraud and maybe have some safety regulations but other than that the government should stay out of the economy.
It would help everyone overall and get the elite out of our lives.
Libertarians want a fascist or corporatist model with a complete dictatorship of capital over labor.
"Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you feed him for a lifetime." Man, the Chinese come up with amazing proverbs.
The Chinese... LOL! The CCP/communism is the worst!
Never knew Jake Gyllenhaal is a part of PragerU! I was like, "what is he doing here"?
You work you deserve, you don’t work you do t deserve simple as that, you can’t deposit excuses
This definitely makes a lot of sense. I think instead of raising the minimum wage to 15 dollars an hour we should provide people with training to help them get more in demand, high paying jobs. This program would essentially pay for itself with more people being able to pay more into the system.
I love hearing people say, "here is the best way to get out of poverty." When they themselves have never experienced poverty.
They also want people to work for less and less..cause you know paying workers less will help them get out of poverty!!!
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I know! The government SHOULD MAKE MINUM WAGE LIKE THIS.
10 for high school dropout
15 for High school graduate
20 for Associate
25 for Bachelor
30 for Masters
Then companies will stop demanding Bachelors for 10 per hour jobs.
And what about for people who HAVE experienced poverty, but found out how to get out and then did so?
Not just my own life experience, either... look up Dave Ramsey sometime.
"progressives / regressives" always think that someone else should give.
@Icarus Loved You mean that 10% of 8 billion is more than 40% of 5 billion? Do you have the wrong beliefs or are you bad at handle numbers?
Never underestimate the power of saving money, too...
The road out of poverty is to stop being so conservative. Mississippi's and Alabama's poverty is connected to it's conservative ideas
Oh and let me also say that I am a capitalist before anyone calls me a socialist
Instead of welfare, give the poor business loans (qualified ones). Sure it'll be tough at first, but it will greatly help future generations. The ability to create jobs for the poor AND the poor owing business is key. Getting a job only keeps you hovering around the poverty line.
In my opinion, the best way to get people out of poverty is Universal Basic Income. It would be a government program where every month every citizen would receive a certain amount of money, maybe $2000. There would be no strings attached. Then people in poverty could use the money to better their situation and get hopefully get out of the cycle of poverty. This would also help boost the economy because people would have more disposable money. Ofc, this money wouldn’t just be printed into existence (because then there would be inflation :/). UBI would replace all other welfare, and use that money. It would also take over some of the army’s budget because we are not at war rn. Please let me know what you think, I would love to see your thoughts on this!
1:57 I do have a phone and vehicle. I sleep on the floor
Funny then, how poverty rates are far lower in Scandinavia, where they have a huge social safety net. AND their economies are growing faster than ours. Look, it seems like providing healthcare to all and taxing the rich more would make people lazy, but in countries where it's implemented, it's not the case. You still have to work to make a living, but when you do work full time, you're able to survive without worrying about health insurance and student loan debt.
Oh yeah because 1)Big tax rates don't just apply to the top earning rich people in Scandanavia. It applies to almost EVERYONE. 2) Their economy is growing more because they don't tax or regulate the shit out of corporations so those corporations have more Money to do what they do produce better.
Yeah they was already working not a mental reason for a check, The government gave them free money to boost their business or what ever they spent it on they was happy as hell. But it is not the same situation for USA. Don't confuse it.
I have never said no to work. I have worked hard and have a lot of experience. I moved to CA from TX and suddenly my experience means nothing without a degree. I have 15 years experience in CX service, Front Desk, Receptions, Office, and Call Center work. I keep getting the "overqualified", "we went with someone else", and "we prefer someone with a degree" notice in my inbox and at interviews. What is going on here? So far I have only been hired at a fast food chain, a place I have no experience at all, that required 3 interviews. This state is a joke, and I can only hope that things change soon. There are empty jobs waiting to be filled everywhere, but they simply aren't hiring people, refuse to train, or have no programs available to become qualified or certified for the jobs. Start training programs, so someone like me doesn't have to work part time, for minimum wage, with required open availability. That is no way to survive after being an active, hard working member of the workforce for this long.
Getting hired seems so complicated nowadays. I am close to 50 now and have had a few random converstions with people in my area who agree that it is so much more complicated and difficult to get a job. The last one I got hired at seemed so involved. It was like getting a clearance to work at the White House.
Balance is needed. Work should be promoted, but welfare, health care, food and stufd have to be provided for the poorer ones.
A universal basic income, in my opinion, in the best way to do this.
RUclips Andrew Yang!
"Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you feed him for a lifetime."
What if it takes a week for a man to learn how to fish?
@Niko SRB During which time, you give him enough fish for him not to die.
So, in exchange for a social welfare program, would conservatives be willing to support a federal jobs program? One that guarantees a job so long as income levels and conditions are met.
Extremely right-wing conservatives do not actually want people to work. They want a rigid hierarchy where people can't move up or down, and where they hold all the power. You'll notice people who move up in life become more conservative up to a point.
TheLucidDreamer I’m fairly conservative, actually. I think you’re wrong on this.
@@HonesteBroker you're not at the extreme level then. Hell, I'm not even "liberal" by PragerU's standard.
HonesteBroker2020 he’s not lying check out the class mobility the us 27 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Social_Mobility_Index#Global_Social_Mobility_Index_(2020)
HonesteBroker2020 also really think about do you think Dennis Pager made all the right choices in life financially
my friend works 50 hours a week in low class resturant jobs and is still right on the poverty line , i love to see you tell him that he doesnt work hard enough
Liam linson So tell him to get a job at a high class restaurant where he can make more money and work less hours. Makes more sense than bitching about it and feeling sorry for himself
@@xallthatremains8339 But somebody has still got to do the badly paying job, so maybe it should become a better payed job.
Yeah. Keep telling yourself everyone stands a fair chance because you personally are financially progressing. Welfare is for people who work 40 hours a week yet are still starving. Unless they do away with outsourcing and tackle immigration head on nothing will change. As far as forcing them to find a formal job. Some people who need medical cannabis for things like glaucoma, epilepsy and PTSD will not be able to find employment because cannabis has not been decriminalized. Legalization means nothing if you still have to choose between treating your condition and working a documented job. Solve those issues or shut up about "getting things without working for them".
I stand with you.
Gotta create better paying jobs for this to work. And for that to happen, our educational system needs to pretty much be destroyed and rebuilt. I have very little faith in that happening within the next 20 years
A wise person once said, "... but work creates true satisfaction"
Create more jobs, good paying jobs.
Construction, resterants, the list is endless.
Saying that conservatives are the ones who want people to escape poverty just doesn't stand up to facts. Support for things that allow people to escape poverty: funding for education, healthcare, infrastructure, government programs etc. require two things that conservatives are most opposed to, government spending and taxes. As an uneducated worker in the USA with little access, you're likely earning a conservative supported, pitiful minimum wage with no real opportunity for upward mobility. At the end of the day, regardless of your talents, intelligence and hardwork, if you grow up extremely poor you just wont have the same opportunities afforded to those more wealthy.
Hugo Dowd conservatives dont want HIGH amount of gov spending along with no stupid gov spendings, conservatives care about the operitunity for geting out of poverty.
Conservative want opportunity for upward mobility. We want people to become independent. Just like a child where the parents baby them and do everything for them, that child will never learn to be independent. A parent would be doing a huge disservice for the child by not letting the child learn for themselves and become independent. Conservatives want the same for people so they can learn to be independent.
I watched this because I was looking for mentors on how to achieve better financial security, as usual no one offers answers, I have no debt, but a minimum wage job makes very little differance, I am elderly, investments have poor returns, it really seems hopeless
Education is personally what got me out. I went to school to study computer science and am currently a software developer but also taught myself how to repair cars as well as I studied anatomy & economics to help diversify my skillset. I always wondered how much this problem would change in America if we invested in our education system more and taught people how to be more productive rather than just throw money at the problem (progressives) or shun poor people as lazy (conservatives).
This is my favorite one from PU! Love this guy. Great presentation and easy to understand!
EAsy to say for a fella with a suit , it doesn't relate to people who do physical labor, Joints and backs just don't last very long.
combined with medical costs that come with aiding such injuries
scandinavian welfare system! free education is the most important.
Free indoctrination you mean
@Andrea Mendenhall Better than making education into a profit oriented machine where only rich children can study and get highly paid jobs while poor children will always stay poor due to no education or crushing debt.
Here in Romania, if you want to enter in a welfare program, you first have to work for the community, this means doing things like clearing roads, planting trees, etc. Here in Romania the unnimploiment rate is very low,and almoust all people who use the welfare program are old people who cannot find a job because they are very close to the pensioning age and so the entrepeneurs cannot make much profit from them.
Missing an important point. We have government programs and large social safety nets because employers don't pay their employees a living wage. That is why you often see people (mostly with kids) working more than one job, still qualifying for government assistance programs. Essentially, CEOs are footing the bill to taxpayers so we have to pay for government assistance programs (like foodstamps and medicade) instead of them paying their employees a living wage to begin with.
Give a man a match and you warmed him for a moment. Light a man on fire and you've warmed him for a life time. Cheers
This argument has a fundamental mathematical flaw. That flaw being: that (unless you make all incomes equal) no matter what you do, twenty percent of the population will always be poorer than the other 80%.
THIS is mathematically inevitable. All the education and opportunity in the world can't change this fact.
Combine this with the fact, that in capitalism, the most profitable selling price for goods is based on the average income of the consumer base.
What you end up with is a mathematical requirement that there will always be 20 percent poorest population and that 20 percent will ALWAYS be unable to afford on their own everything that they need.
The disease is incurable all you do is treat the symptoms. Thus it doesn't matter whether social programs fix poverty or not because (MATHEMATICALLY) poverty can't be fixed. The same forces that make 1 + 1 = 2, ensure that there will ALWAYS be a wealthiest 20% and a poorest 20% and capitalism ensures that said poorest 20% will always struggle to survive.
Hence the only moral option left if to look after the poor and help them to at least to become better consumers and to ensure they can live comfortably off of a bottom rung job. (both of which help drive the economy).
This is exactly what I'm always saying. If everyone gets a college education it becomes worthless because they all aren't guaranteed a good job. There will always be people who get the bottom jobs in a competitive economy. You are right about some people being at the bottom however I propose we can lower the percent of people in poverty(maybe 5% of people would be considered in poverty) 90% of people in middle class, and 5% of people would be the new 1% we commonly refer to.
That's not true. The government spends nearly a trillion dollars on all the welfare programs. Not only that but there's a lot of jobs that are in demand right now begging for people. They can't find people so there's a shortage if anything. Which is why I know construction workers who train for 3-4 years than start making an easy 100K a year because there's so little people.
People are in poverty due to terrible decisions. They have children at a young age and they didn't go to school or gain a skill. Someone can make 15 dollars an hour and he'll be fine for example. Another person can make that same pay but has a kid. Now he's stuck in poverty. Make good decisions and you won't be in poverty. Or not even good decisions, just don't make bad ones.
My favorite proverb. "Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime."
i was homeless and tried to get a job. but who wants to hire someone with no phone or address. I had to do low paying work that was cash under the table type. till I saved up enough to get a place. and even after that employers would look at that gap in work history. I never begged not even to the government.
I hired a guy a while back and was paying him $17 an hour. His girlfriend/ baby momma told him he'd either have to quit his job or move out because his income jeopardize her welfare. At first he moved out but then started claiming he couldn't work due to overwhelming anxiety, quit his job and was trying to get ssi. Perfect.
Holy blanket statements! 😂😂
Andrea Mendenhall Doesn’t change the fact they’re blanket statements.
Andrea Mendenhall This video purports that progressives are for taking money from the wealthy to give money to the poor; that progressives just simply want to throw money at the poor. That’s an absurd blanket statement.
Andrea Mendenhall Considering there are millions of progressives, anything to suggest they only want one thing or have one solution is a blanket statement.
"Getting people to work" lol ... he thinks that the labor doesn't work at all.
Google "learned helplessness."
The answer is the synthesis of both ways. You help people get out of poverty by their own accomplishes and help them who can not do that.
I work at a company that right now is having major labour issues. We offer 42 hours a week 52 weeks a year. The wages range from about 13.50$ a hour starting to over $20 for established workers. The company offers dollar for dollar matched RRSP contributions, group medical and life insurance, and profit sharing bonus that was 6% this year. There is an option to receive a free power engineering course through the NSCC open to all employees that has a $4 per hour guaranteed raise upon completion.....and can't find enough workers to fully operate. The only real requirement is grade 12 education. People just don't want to work...period.