Salute to mfs that watched the whole shit. Not once in the 69 minutes did I hear Lupe “ending his friendship with Royce”. This title is the exact shit Lupe is talking about. Clickbait trying to vulture negative energy
While I agree it is clickbait seeing how Lupe never said those words out loud, but from what I'm hearing and gathering their old friendship or whatever their relationship was with one another, it's dead...its a lot deeper and he said a lot more than just "I'm ending my friendship with Royce Da 5'9", so it was kinda clickbait but even without the title I'm definitely assuming that's the case... Whatever the case, both need to admit their wrongs in the situation and their friendships and man up, apologize for their roll and move on and not make the same mistake again... 9 times outta 10 an issue doesn't stem solely from just one person and their bullshit, both sides contribute to making a situation worse. I love both Royce and Lupe from way back, (havent heard lupe's new stuff in a while, i didnt think he was putting new stuff out) would like to see them xome to terms with one another and drop a song together when it's all squashed.
Lupe: "Royce has my number and I'm always willing to talk, just not on live where these bloggers misheadline things and make a bad situation worse" SMAK SHADE: LUPE ENDS FRIENDSHIP WITH ROYCE
@@Sinistatnt energy changed when the first "Bitch" was called.. Ill be damned if my "friend"( who i never met in person) called me out my name on Live lol
This beef between y'all is really philosophical there's a real strong representation between two different groups in the black community here the one that just wants to live in the one that has keep that image going, the progression in the thing holding us back... at the end of the day I can respect everything Lupe has said in some ways I can respect things Royce has said even with all the contradictions.. but math was right the fans in the culture lean doing this for a shift... we were all genuinely hoping at least those of us lyrically invested that somehow you guys could bring a different Aura to the state of where we are in hip-hop not considering the impact it's having on RUclips as individuals... at the end of the day at the core of the problem I believe Lupe is right and I strongly believe voice was wrong to try to tell somebody else and not just anybody else but a hip-hop Legend what does and doesn't qualify for the greatest... all the other Shenanigans are hostility was absolutely useless... I wish you both peace of mind
lupe fiasco is emotional, ending friendships over a little back and forth, and saying i dont want this to became biggie and pac tell me a lot that he takes everything to heart, no wonder royce didnt wanna even respond because he knows lupe well!
@@mark-kq7rc wow that is incredible you were just flat-out admitting bias Both parties has consistently said they are not actually friends they don't have any actual relationship outside of the podcast.... Royce has also admitted that he did come at Lupe wrong multiple times... and the worst part of your bias is that Royce himself said the same thing about Biggie and PAC that these situations turn out that way so it wasn't just Lupe any person watching this whole situation who don't want to see these two men come to harm feel this exact same way it's not that serious two individuals who didn't click from the get-go continue to associate until the boiling point Royce likes to talk to people crazy even when it contradicts the behaviors he proclaims to have which he says about himself in Lupe is a hip-hop enthusiast who people think they can talk to you any kind of way because of his calm demeanor... these two individuals going their separate ways is what's best
@@melvingenao550 again more bias Royce spent 2 hours talkin about his emotions even ended up talking about he was going to disown other people because they didn't respect his emotions come on man just admit you picking sides because there's nothing logical rational or even reasonable about your perspective
Congratulations new Ripley's record for the longest message ever in RUclips history JK LOL but you made great points much love and respect stay blessed
I feel like every time Lupe pauses… he’s tryin to make sure he doesn’t rhyme so people don’t think he’s just rappin… imagine being so good u gotta try NOT to freestyle 😂 🔥 💯
@Bubz559.... Naww he's only pausing because he's thinking of how he wants to say what he wants to say without it coming out wrong..... He is not trying to make sure he's not rapping..... He real Intelligent
@@shady6152 Royce kept it lyrical. Lupe said if you get triggered easily go to EOW yet he got triggered easily over a sun chip bar? Both these dudes can rap great but look stupid with all the contradictions
@@HennyAnderson yeah I’ve been following it every step of the way LOL Royce is also someone you don’t want to mess with. But Lupe has him all in his feelings right now and it looks crazy. If you’re bothered be bothered behind closed doors never let the enemy know that you bought it. But Lupe is the most slept on and one of the most dangerous dudes in rap. The rapper rapper’s know to stay clear of him.
The lyrical battle style without dissing is amazing. At least there's no disadvantage. By the way I'm glad you talk deeply about DragonBall, not just surface shit like many casual fans do.
When I heard about this whole Royce 59 Lupe Fiasco beef I didn't know who the fuck Lupe was. looked up a couple of his projects listen to some of his music and now watching this he's a real rapper he understands the game and how dangerous it can be.
Lupe gaining a lot of respect from a lot of people right now I’ll keep it a 100 I ain’t follow Lupe like that but dude be impressing me the way he’s handling it. That aside. Royce gotta rap it is what it is.
To a certain point it doesn’t even matter if he responds with a rap anymore. Homie showed his true colors. And he’s a lame and I was definitely a fan of Royce but the way he acted was wack asf.
You definitely deserve your flowers now and after my brother, you been on a real nigga level the moment you started to rap. I’m a New Orleans man who gets it. Thank you for your book of knowledge
Royce got decapitated twice. Lupe murdered him, Facts buried him. He in his feeling making it about everything it aint because he lost the battle, the title And losing respect.
@@zedagubata8713 Royce did his diss in a competitive way, not one truly personal line was said.. Lupe got all in his feelings about sunchips on some inside joke shit that only he was aware of.. of course Royce got upset with Lupe's personal disses, now we got 2 top tier rappers in their feelings about dumb shit.. sticks n stones bruh..
@@arturomontes5884but then Royce does the same shit. He talks shit on blogs Ig and other platforms when people say shit about him Look no further than his interview where he was telling Canibus to LEAVE ME ALONE. Despite Royce initiating the issue You are simply being a hypocrite. Just own it Lupe tells WHY that isn’t a line that’ll fly with him. And maybe won’t fly with many Chicago artists either who knew about the little girl Lupe is referring to He wasn’t saying her story was not real. He’s saying the fantasy track he made of her Life? Wasn’t real but he wishes it was Cuz she got shots in her. And it was cuz her dad stole the dude’s playstation If you truly don’t get WHY Lupe reacted how he did? That’s a LONG long meditating you need to do on Life in general And to that? Lupe matched Royce’s energy. Like, “that’s how you feel foreal? Well, then I say we don’t need you living either then” Royce always tries to play it off like he’s simply chilling Nah, him and Budden are more alike than people think
So let me get this straight, Royce didn't want to battle on EO dubb because he couldn't get personal and turns around and get personal on wax and this whole situation spinned out of control because of that 🤔 - I have a headache 😄😄😄💯
when you gotta ride the cotails of another rapper you might look at a rapper like lupe and hate on him....lupe may not be the most popular but he stands on his own two feel like a man.
Lupe & Factz had a right to respond because Royce was always disrespectful from the beginning. Royce had said he was being sarcastic when he was arguing with Factz but sarcasm is technically a form of disrespect. Royce just got in his feelings cuz Lupe & Factz had the better dis songs against him.
Stack lived wit Lupe out in Chicago early in his career and they was in the streets gettin' it. Lupe a street dude frfr, he just don't condone that lifestyle nomore.
@@slickjames2956 I really wanted to see what you thought about EODUB. I didn't know it existed. I'm not trolling. So far as Vlad, he makes it known he's going to ask the tough questions before hand. I watched Dan Rather and Rivera ask tough questions my whole life. I'm sure they were cool with some of the people they asked, but that's journalism. Only in Hip Hop do people cry about the questions. I don't see enough Accountability in the community, so I'm just tired of hearing it really.
But how the fuck Lupe gonna be mad about Royces hypothetical violence bar, and then turn around and say he wish Royce was dead....? How the fuck does that make sense? You can't act like you're on some moral mountain and then just stoop down into bullshit like that, over a bar that was totally based in fantasy. Lupe doesn't even have a son.... but he took that bar so personal he said he wished another person was dead....? This shit is silly
I like why Lupe likes EOW. It’s the more technical and I’d say “nerdy rap battle” and I HATE watching gun bars all day too because there’s so many different ways to battle, but as creative as it seems, most of the time you are only watching one form of battle rap and eow is easily more versatile and as Lupe says, if you are going to be with the nerdy ones and be nerdy, you might as well go hard or go home. I’m all about that go hard or go home shit. Eow is probably less creative in some aspects if you watch battle rap like url and kotd and wanna watch eow, but you have to understand that each part is like A multiple choice question. You don’t even know what to expect. In url or KOTD you know exactly what to expect and even tho it can catch you by surprise, you still know what to expect.
Royce ... That throwing rocks hiding yo hand shit don't work when we seen the live... Stop being so sensitive.. summon the Eminem and Proof battle energy and stop whining please
This is sad that two legends are having this disagreement...I wish them both peace but to me it seems like Lupe never came off disrespectful to royce from the jump
I don’t understand this concept of diss records without disrespect. How they both make diss records and then get sensitive about the diss records??? Imagine Hov and Nas doin blogs about their feelings hurt after Takeover and Ether. This what we doing now in Hip Hop? Nah these 2 could NEVER do URL. Too emotional.
@ANYTHNG G03S Lupe isn’t necessarily in his feelings though. He wanted Royce to stop with his bullshit before he got lyrically murdered, Royce didn’t and that’s what happened and decided to keep talking bullshit. Lupe is always the one on live trying to set the record straight, he been doing this with artists before Royce came into the picture lol. Lupe is “what trying to keep the peace” look like. When he said “you want to come and battle a fuckin demon? Go ahead start practicing” Royce wasn’t ready lol.
Lupe lookin real classy here imo. "niggas always quick to say who you talking to, who the fuck you think you talking to, my rebuttal is, 'nigga who the fuck you think is talking'"
There was no friendship for you to end, stay in your lane. The fact is Royse doesn't need any help from friends in his beefs. You apparently do though. Y'all idiots better hope he don't rally his homies.
If. If. Maybe. Maybe. If. If if was a fifth, Kevin. If if if he brings the homies, oh no! You (Royce fans) all sound like middle school kids. That man asked for this ass whooping. Let him get what he wants.
@@AutoAnomoly come on. Royce aint shooting nobody for this beef the same way Lupe raps about spraying choppas. its ridiculous. lol Lupe is talking about biggie and pac. its just some niggas rapping. Royce is just street so of course, he's gonna get bully with it. If it really was a problem like that, he'd call trick trick
Lupe won, it come down to he just smarter and more talented than Royce. Royce got what he wanted and he lost now he in his feelings trying to justify his BS with it got too personal...please its battle its hip hop he throws rocks and now trying to hide your hands. Can't wait for new Nas album August 6 KDII.
@@ThaSoloist what Royce said wasn't even based in reality, cuz Lupe ain't got no kids.... Lupe wished that man dead over a bar that doesn't even apply to him.....
I don't think Royce is the only one in his feelings what you just wrote was way off I think he just explained why it's a little deeper than that it's actually not really a battle
This is what we need for A battle rap as far as contact: if someone bumps you sound A warning and next bump or something they get DQd with NO PAY. Now if they’re more DISCIPLINED, they get to bump you back and since they were bumped first they can bump you even after they bump you BACK and they are now ahead by one bump. Absolutely no fighting or ruining the battle for the fans and tapes that should be number one. Imagine comedy specials getting cancelled before it’s done. Beyond unprofessional should be suspended and no pay AND if you fight AND ruin the battle for taped and fans then you can’t come back for like A year or some real time like 5 years get mfs really on board. 2020 hip-hop and lyricism is expanding there is NO REASON ANYONE should be ready to battle rap and ends up fighting. Only bitches go to A battle rap and fight idgaf what you talking. How about this rule, anyone who fuck it up for hip-hop over A fight gets beat the fuck up. Yeah, no one will agree with this it’s stupid, but I had to say it because I know someone respects that fair ass understanding. I am Hip-Hop and nothing anyone can really do to fuck it up, period it’s stronger than ever and the strongest manipulator, PERIOD. Hip-Hop is everything and I want every piece of it. It’s biggest music genre and most culturally influential base right? Imagine how big it would’ve been had we not lost pac, big pun, big l, GURU- just imagine all that we are losing when you try to stop even the small underground-like stuff. You are risking HISTORY. I am hip-hop. Respect me, please family.
2 guys in my top 5 involved in battle against or for one another is a win win fir me... If they battle dace to face a true lyrical war then shake hands to end the story its a victory for hip hop
Y’all Be Talking about Battle Rappers but y’all can’t deal with 1 round of today’s battle style. We knew Lupe wasn’t gangsta but y’all are next level emotional 😭 All of y’all. It’s embarrassing really. All this conversation of intelligence. Yall don’t have no common sense or communication skills so forget all the big words and crocodile tears. Drop it. Yall not Rappers, y’all are Recording Artists.
And, if Lupe was all about EOW, and how you're not allowed to diss people, so he proceeds to make video after video of him dissing people.... made a 9 minute live, dissing Mook and Lux and didn't even have the audacity to name them.... Lupe is heavily rationalizing his own bullshit, and making his own missteps somebody else's fault.....
I mean were they really friends? They've never met in person. They were more like acquaintances. So Royce got mad at Lupe because he yelled at him? I'm pretty sure many of Royce's friends have yelled at him and he's let it go. They weren't friends...
Let’s speak on facts, It wasn’t that deep a friendship fam, they never even met other than video and pod. But regardless every has their own reason they’d leave a friendship, even you. And regardless of what your reason was someone can always claim it’s a being sensitive reaction. His “friend” constantly tried to son him, another grown ass man, a man more successful in their game, and a man who acknowledges to being a nerd in general but still has chi town street connections rather he speaks on it or not. Just his fam and people from that environment are going to back his play because he represents them. People outgrow each other as well all the time. Only a fool would keep ties with someone that doesn’t respect them..... not to mention I was a fan of Royce from early days but he’s been exposed and is playing both sides now, the bully and the non accountable victim. Sounds like his mental health isn’t right again. Peace
Alot of people just speaking without knowing on here. To be clear Royce said he'd beat Lupe in a rap battle (to the best rap battlers), then called him a b*tch. Lupe freestyled and Royce dropped a diss saying he'd shoot mickeys son and a bunch of other lines. Lupe responded and exposed him as a fake smart dude. Royce kept talking and told Mickey he dissed his son then said Murals wasnt dope. Mickey dissed him. Now Royce dissing Math Hoffa and saying everyone wants violence when hes the ONLY one threatening violence. Royce talking on live and threatening violence/throwing stones and hiding his hand is causing him to get dissed. And instead of rapping Royce just keeps talking and saying its not his fault. Royce is bringing this on himself then acting too good to rap.
What’s weird about saying the gangster-rap culture is largely useless and destructive. Rap is Rap but shit has transitioned to some goofy pointless killings that ain’t helping anyone. If you from the hood and can’t see that your one of the living-dead walking amongst us.
The sun chips line is too far but 1. It wasn’t even meant for Mickey and 2. Lupe said death should have taken Royce instead of Biz Markie before Royce even responded. Hmmm I don’t think so Lupe.
Two-faced Lupe. EODUB is cool because you cannot diss, but well dude was quick to diss Royce with personals. Truth is Lupe is a top notch lyricist and super intelligent but the passive-agressive type that loves to twist shit around to fit his narrative. You're enjoying this too damn much. That sun chips line was just some wordplay crap and sounded absolutely nothing ill-willed unlike that Biz Markie line Lupe was quick to rhyme for rebuttal. But then he wants to jump from that into a real situation with a real baby getting killed and get sensitive about it. I praise dude as an emcee but his personality type is a no around people like me. And I am not even no alpha male. I'm just a regular old male.
But tbh, this beef and song dissing was not necessary... They should've done it like how tory lanez and Joyner Lucas was doing it, just choose a beat and see who comes up with the better version,let the fans vote... Now the friendship and podcast is gone out the window over sum dumb sh!t, this IG stuff can really ruin lives frfr... All we needed was friendly competition coz ya'll f*#ked with each other... I love music but this is sad
This sounds like it could be resolved with a phone call. After listening to both lives, it seems like they both view disrespect differently. The miscommunication from the 9 minute freestyle and the sun chips bar seems similar as well
Yup they all look like clowns. Social media is making men who should be elders in the game look like toddlers. Lupe talk all this talk....he should have had private convos not arguments on Live.
thats where I got confused too? Why bring up EOW when the tracks have nothing to do with it, all the tracks made was reactionary off what they said about each other
Wait so Royce is in his feelings ? Wtf is this dude on ? His feelings ! Royce hurt his feelings and that’s why he got super personal in his diss track . All 3 of these cats got their feelings hurt . End of story .
I love Lupe and Royce, lupe is a freaking mad scientist and he’s ions above the rest when it comes to raw intelligence. Royce is so cold on the bars. I DO NOT think Royce was being serious, he was rhyming dirty dozen style. Maybe the sunchips bar isn’t as personal as saying someone is specifically trifling because of a specific situation that’s not known publicly. A lot of battle rappers talk about shooting each other and each other’s family members. Lupe you know this brother. 2 different versions of what’s deemed “personal” Just my thoughts ✌️❤️ Edit: I’m halfway through and lupe said EO Dubb isn’t about dissing. This makes more sense now, but I don’t think anyone knew that’s why you was recommending it Lupe. It is a lot more structured than camps talking about pressing each other. Makes perfect sense. Royce, go do it man screw it. Go do the challenge 💯
I doubt he will actually take that specific challenge. There's a certain kind of stubbornness about him, maybe reminiscent of Budden's disposition, that I don't think allow him to do that. "Nah, I already put my track out there. Keep the nerd ish over there because I don't owe you anything." That's probably what would go through his head. Mickey's response also didn't help his case because he straight up turned in the assignment Royce gave out, checking all the boxes :p , and did exactly what Lupe said he could do with Royce's style for extra credit lol. I can see him just trying to get SH involved only to end up proving Lupe's point to a lot of listeners.
lupe has said there are lot of bars which is personal but people won't understand it more like a inside joke .. some were i don't care fo r big gums and small teeth making fun of lupe teeth .. you love white people more than you respect black people was cut out content from their podcast and alot of things which only lupe and royce knows .. so that's not good if he wanted to say he better rapper their shouldn't have been any sneaky shots and stuff .
If one desires the spotlight, Royce is wayyy down on the list of guys to help you obtain it. You think about it, outside of he records with Em he doesn’t have one record that the masses know. Not one…
@@TheMaddBlackMann Why do yall think "nerds" aren't about that life? 😂 Just because someone doesn't have tattoos or talk tough and like anime, do yall not think they are capable of violence? Y'all kill me with that foolishness
What is Lupe talking about?? Big and Pac 😂😂😂😂 one thing is clear he HATES Royce and has done for some time. Cause this can't get to big and pac levels cause this ain't that serious... Well that's what we thought.
Lupe can say all he wants that it’s not going to be Chi vs Detroit, or go past rapping but the longer beefs last, the more likely it escalates. Happens all the time. So ya, maybe Royce is overthinking it but maybe he doesn’t want it to get that far. I’d love to see all these lyrical beasts go on for months, just trying to think what might be in his head.
Grow up dude ....it’s tragic , you felt justified to attack ....Royce too ....both of you ...it might be good for rap culture , but it’s not good for culture as a whole ........sad
Royce wasn't talking about that situation with that baby. He wasn't even talking about Mickey's son. That was something that he said to Mickey in a conversation when Mickey asked if that was about him. Royce said no, but you can make it about you. These narratives over rap. This whole thing is wack all around. This isn't hip hop....
This is why. They were on IG live. Royce was like “hey. Let’s Battle”. Lupe was like “ok cool. Let’s go to EO Dub”. EO Dub is a venue where rappers rap lol. But they don’t diss. Just a lyrical display. Royce was lyke “no. Let’s go to ‘URL’”. URL is a venue, like Madison square garden, but for rap and not basketball. But it can get filthy. You can Diss all you want at URL so it can get physical. Lupe was lyke “Lux just called me talking about rapping ” Royce was lyke “NO LUX (a rapper) didn’t call you !!!!” Lupe was lyke “umm. I just got off the phone with lux. Anyway yeah let’s battle at EO dub” then Royce was lyke “LUX DIDNT CALL YOU. OK BITCH. STEP IN THE RING”. Royce brought that energy
@@YardratZ Im following you... but it looks like royce got tricked into a fight... And the battle rap community sponsored it... I aint mad but the reason for the personal attacks just dont sit right wit me... its 2021... the sun chips bar wasnt cray enough to garner the reaction it got. but I get ya point my dog
@@FishScaleNetwork oh yeah most def. I think Lupe was just made cause he was lyke “yeah I just got off the phone with loaded lux” and Royce went full female mode and was lyke “oh nooo you didn’tttttt bitch”. Wasn’t about the sunchips lol
@@YardratZ this is insightful for me tbh... Im from Detroit so thats how we talk but I get why that could make an out of towner feel a way... same time, like I said I feel like this was the goal... to get him uncomfortable enough for that ring... Because once this is over, Royce still has Loaded Lux sittin bacc like Akuma, WATCHING... OG fell for that bait and now he in a spot
Man you really think Royce gone shoot your son while he eatin sun chips? Thats gaslighting and deflecting at its finest.... What if their son eats doritos? 😂😂
Man This dude obviously was trying to use Royce as a too to give publicity to eow. He thought he could openly disrespect him and act a fool and bait him into showing up and giving all that publicity. Which saw it coming from a mile away and didn't bite that obvious bait. Mickey and Royce actually had a misunderstanding that hurt both of their feelings in different ways and there was a real issue that they ended up sqashing. Lupe Is acting a fool and Pretending to be something he obviously isn't ( Because people who are really About that kind of life don't show off their guns and shit or run their mouth like that because that brings heat that they don't need) in an attempt to get publicity to eow. Does anyone actually believe for one second that Osiris is the best rapper in the world, because he's on top of that eow shit like Lupe said? I guarantee you but the rhymes would destroy him right now. Busta Rhymes always says he'll take anyone anytime anywhere in any way. So why not invite him there or bait him Lupe? Why not call out Mook or Remy MA? He knows exactly what would happen if he called out someone that would show up and destroy all of his men. But no he called out someone who was never really a battle rapper and goes track for track with people on more philosophical stuff. In a Royce song you're more likely to get advice from Royce than him taking your head off usually unless hes with Eminem. He knew Bruce would not be interested in that so hes making it seem like Royce is scared of these youngsters That can't really hold a candle to real battle rappers. I gave EOW a chance and It's an interesting concept and and there are talented people but but they aint the best in the world and that particular competition doesn't prove that they are. Lupe did a risk assessment of rappers It was trying to find who had the most prestige on their name but still wouldn't show up to that kind of competition so when they said no or suggested something else like going track or track he could talk shit and promote eow. That is strange about bitchmaid move and It's obvious what hes doing if you go back and watch the videos. He aint intelligent with it when he's trying to bait Royce And it's so transparent what he was actually doing. As for Mickey I get why Royce thought the Caprice line was overstepping in a way vecause he has openly said for many years said he does not want his name attached to beef like that anymore. At the same time I get why Mickey said it, ecause Royce was being pretty disrespectful in his own way the last time they were hanging out . At 1 time he might have let that that get to him and drop a diss track like that on Royce, But he is not a youngster in the game anymore he is a peer now and deserves better than silly jokes from old timers.
@@virtue1803 Yo you'll remember when Busta Rhymes and Kr S1 When at each other of the top of the head? Yeah Kr S took that 1, but Busta ain't No slouch on the freestyles. Or how about when him Mos Def did that improve result back in the day that was ill as hell. I used to cop bootlegged VHS tapes of Kr S1 And drive multiple states to get them. I've been watching battle rap, since the cypers in New York public parks where The foundation of all of this hip hop was built. I've seen people go at each other before Rick ruben even made a hip hop beat. So when I say Busta Rhymes Could come in there and do it easy I'm speaking truth. But really what would be better is if Remie Ma came in there Because then they could simultaneously be beat by someone who is objectively better, But these youngsters that are cosplaying as gangsters Can actually be around someone that was about that life at 1 point for the first time in their lives. But my point is he called out someone he knew wouldn't come because that is not the kind of shit he does To try to make this shit he's into legitimate. Like I said does anyone honestly believe like he said that ocean is that Osiris is the best rapper in the world? Redman could walk up in there right now and destroy him while being funny about it. All that being said about Lupe and his bs I respect the fuck out of Mickey and and is this and why he felt he had to do it.
Another tourist talking like an expert. Royce just cried for 2 hours last night and you don't rap or watch battle rap so you dont even know the basics of what goes into a verse today. Royce started this running his mouth to battle rappers and that checking boxes talk was him being vague to seem better than he is. Royce dissed first and threatened violence first. He had big words and threatened to shoot Mickey factz son. Lupe responded and bodied him directly. All those big words dont matter in a battle.
@@DoubleN517 And I get why Royce feels that way because he is on record saying I am not the guy that does beef anymore that's not what I'm about anymore. And they squashed all that anyways so obviously you aren't cut up on the story. Because it wasn't specifically about his son. However it was disrespectful as fuck on Royce's part wheb when Mickey asked if it was about his son he pretty much said why the fuck not. Royce was not treating Mickey with respect as a peer and Mickey came at of him and flamed him. But they got together talked a little bit off camera beforehand and they squashed all of that they're cool. Lupe however did what he did and is acting like someone he clearly isn't to get publicity for EOW plain and simple. Don't tell me when Lupe said Osiris was the best in the world and EOW proves it We all didn't think Osiris is nice, but he can't fuck with Mook any day of the week. I have all respect for Mickey and he did exactly what he should have done and now the beef is squashed, because he came at it as a man. He was being a man when he put out the diss that was justified and he was a man when they put all of that behind them and talked it out. Yeah lupe is straight being fake as hell right now while accusing everybody who is everybody who isn't playing with EOW of being fake and scared. Yo yo does not prove you are the best rapper in the world more than any other rap competition. If me and you are playing world combat and you're good on the xbox but I've always been playstation It would be silly for you to go only the people who rule on this xbox platform are the best. You aint shit unless you put yourself on the xbox. I hold Lupe as an amazing rapper that is far too often slept on it the conversation of great MC'S and my opinion of his skills have not changed. However I lost all respect for him as a person Because hes trying to use one of his peers as a tool to promote to promote subsidies into. He doesn't have a real problem with someone so he dropped a diss record. He came out straight disrespectful flashing guns flashing guns that have never been shot and acting a fool to promote a new type of competitive rap competition while saying any other way you could measure an MC doesn't count anymore. I mean that is some naive shit and out of every party involved know this Lupe is by far the most naive and childish. Meanwhile Mickey was such an adult and man With everything he did and how he approached up that I think he probably taught Royce It's a good lesson on how to be mature about shit proving that He can destroy shit effortlessly. I mean when he went into the fucking Cannabis flow and then switched into the Royce flow and then went back into his while talking his shit I was mad impressed. I mean I knew he was skilled and I had respect for him before And I've got people turned on to his shit that we're sleeping on him , but it turns out we've all been sleeping on him and he's better than we all thought even if you thought he was top tier beforehand.
@@alexgregg1058 I agree with all you're saying, but I think you also missed the point of Royce saying take the sun chip bar. He was saying, you obviously want to take things in a way so it seems like we battle, so if you want it that much take it how you want it. He doesn't owe an explanation of his lyricism. Sun chips line was very very obvious hyperbole. It's a lyricist flex, "I'm so bad I'll do this..", it's swag. Typical Royce style to use lines like that as well, so I'm super surprised it went over so many heads. Why would people be thinking Royce is on that shit, that's another thing. He didn't even want this shit to begin with. He's very clear on his mentality on beefs, he been about all that way back. He's a builder, not tearing down. Anyone should know he's not out here wanting to kill sons.
Salute to mfs that watched the whole shit. Not once in the 69 minutes did I hear Lupe “ending his friendship with Royce”. This title is the exact shit Lupe is talking about. Clickbait trying to vulture negative energy
Thank you for not wasting my time. I hate clickbait titles ✌️ I’m out!
Thanks
Thanks man, but I'm not sure they will be friend after this lol
He ended the podcast dude.. what more u need for someone to say they checking out the friendship. Actions speak louder than words
While I agree it is clickbait seeing how Lupe never said those words out loud, but from what I'm hearing and gathering their old friendship or whatever their relationship was with one another, it's dead...its a lot deeper and he said a lot more than just "I'm ending my friendship with Royce Da 5'9", so it was kinda clickbait but even without the title I'm definitely assuming that's the case...
Whatever the case, both need to admit their wrongs in the situation and their friendships and man up, apologize for their roll and move on and not make the same mistake again... 9 times outta 10 an issue doesn't stem solely from just one person and their bullshit, both sides contribute to making a situation worse. I love both Royce and Lupe from way back, (havent heard lupe's new stuff in a while, i didnt think he was putting new stuff out) would like to see them xome to terms with one another and drop a song together when it's all squashed.
Lupe: "Royce has my number and I'm always willing to talk, just not on live where these bloggers misheadline things and make a bad situation worse"
SMAK SHADE: LUPE ENDS FRIENDSHIP WITH ROYCE
Exactly
😂😂😂
I wonder if the channel saw this comment lbs #CHEP
Smh crazy
Not only that but Lu said that but a lot of what he said was directed at Royce and he was even speaking to him throughout the live #CHEP
I always thought they're relationship was weird and they constantly went at each other I never thought they would remain cool.
Friends talk shit to eachother all the time
@@Bizeecentral If you can to wishing death on your friend y'all was never really friends
@@willt8848 who wished death?
@@DOTTAisKING Lupe wished death on Royce. Pretty much why the whole energy changed
@@Sinistatnt energy changed when the first "Bitch" was called.. Ill be damned if my "friend"( who i never met in person) called me out my name on Live lol
This beef between y'all is really philosophical there's a real strong representation between two different groups in the black community here the one that just wants to live in the one that has keep that image going, the progression in the thing holding us back... at the end of the day I can respect everything Lupe has said in some ways I can respect things Royce has said even with all the contradictions.. but math was right the fans in the culture lean doing this for a shift... we were all genuinely hoping at least those of us lyrically invested that somehow you guys could bring a different Aura to the state of where we are in hip-hop not considering the impact it's having on RUclips as individuals... at the end of the day at the core of the problem I believe Lupe is right and I strongly believe voice was wrong to try to tell somebody else and not just anybody else but a hip-hop Legend what does and doesn't qualify for the greatest... all the other Shenanigans are hostility was absolutely useless... I wish you both peace of mind
lupe fiasco is emotional, ending friendships over a little back and forth, and saying i dont want this to became biggie and pac tell me a lot that he takes everything to heart, no wonder royce didnt wanna even respond because he knows lupe well!
@@mark-kq7rc wow that is incredible you were just flat-out admitting bias
Both parties has consistently said they are not actually friends they don't have any actual relationship outside of the podcast.... Royce has also admitted that he did come at Lupe wrong multiple times... and the worst part of your bias is that Royce himself said the same thing about Biggie and PAC that these situations turn out that way so it wasn't just Lupe any person watching this whole situation who don't want to see these two men come to harm feel this exact same way it's not that serious two individuals who didn't click from the get-go continue to associate until the boiling point Royce likes to talk to people crazy even when it contradicts the behaviors he proclaims to have which he says about himself in Lupe is a hip-hop enthusiast who people think they can talk to you any kind of way because of his calm demeanor... these two individuals going their separate ways is what's best
@@joeybull9073 lupe is wrong and emotional that's why he went straight personal. Royce thought they were gonna do a podcast. Lupe is a bitch.
@@melvingenao550 again more bias Royce spent 2 hours talkin about his emotions even ended up talking about he was going to disown other people because they didn't respect his emotions come on man just admit you picking sides because there's nothing logical rational or even reasonable about your perspective
Congratulations new Ripley's record for the longest message ever in RUclips history JK LOL but you made great points much love and respect stay blessed
I feel like every time Lupe pauses… he’s tryin to make sure he doesn’t rhyme so people don’t think he’s just rappin… imagine being so good u gotta try NOT to freestyle 😂 🔥 💯
😂😂💀
@Bubz559.... Naww he's only pausing because he's thinking of how he wants to say what he wants to say without it coming out wrong.....
He is not trying to make sure he's not rapping..... He real Intelligent
Y’all talking like lupe got disrespectful Royce was way out of line from the jump
Well the problem is that it’s Lupe.
People need to realize that Lupe has always been a fucking problem that you don’t want. Just like king los.
@@shady6152 Royce kept it lyrical. Lupe said if you get triggered easily go to EOW yet he got triggered easily over a sun chip bar? Both these dudes can rap great but look stupid with all the contradictions
@@HennyAnderson yeah I’ve been following it every step of the way LOL
Royce is also someone you don’t want to mess with. But Lupe has him all in his feelings right now and it looks crazy. If you’re bothered be bothered behind closed doors never let the enemy know that you bought it.
But Lupe is the most slept on and one of the most dangerous dudes in rap. The rapper rapper’s know to stay clear of him.
@@shady6152 Lupe the one ending pod and friendship....but royce in his feels sure.
@@shady6152 I don’t disagree with that but I’m a big Royce fan and I really hoped he would keep it rap too. This back and forth is very disappointing
The lyrical battle style without dissing is amazing. At least there's no disadvantage.
By the way I'm glad you talk deeply about DragonBall, not just surface shit like many casual fans do.
"Who Do You Think Is Talking" 💪🏾
The reality of this is, not everybody can be friends.
Facts
They've been friends for years, it ain't no fake friendship
@Te I stand corrected they were not friends just had the same mutual friends that's all
I respect everything Lupe said here honestly. I hope these two greats can talk it out and smooth things out in the end.
When I heard about this whole Royce 59 Lupe Fiasco beef I didn't know who the fuck Lupe was. looked up a couple of his projects listen to some of his music and now watching this he's a real rapper he understands the game and how dangerous it can be.
Lupe gaining a lot of respect from a lot of people right now
I’ll keep it a 100 I ain’t follow Lupe like that but dude be impressing me the way he’s handling it.
That aside. Royce gotta rap it is what it is.
To a certain point it doesn’t even matter if he responds with a rap anymore. Homie showed his true colors. And he’s a lame and I was definitely a fan of Royce but the way he acted was wack asf.
@@alphanoob7947 huh how did he act y’all weird as hell same shit you talking you won’t say to his face so don’t talk loose on the net
You definitely deserve your flowers now and after my brother, you been on a real nigga level the moment you started to rap. I’m a New Orleans man who gets it. Thank you for your book of knowledge
Peace cannot be achieved through violence, it can only be attained through understanding. ...
Royce got decapitated twice. Lupe murdered him, Facts buried him. He in his feeling making it about everything it aint because he lost the battle, the title And losing respect.
In your opinion
@@osahar08 nah thats a fact
@@tpthecalm9438 Lupe was in his feelings off of two lines he admitted that
@@osahar08 cool
@Arsenio Jordan exactly
Lupe way more mature about this. I pray Royce comes back with another diss track so Lupe can jus throw more dirt on what was 5'9
"YOU NOT FEENA TALK ABOUT SUN CHIPS TO MY FRIEND!!!!!"- Lupe
That’s just trash. Mickey owned the line when it wasn’t even about him. And lupe doesn’t have a son.
@@zedagubata8713 Royce did his diss in a competitive way, not one truly personal line was said.. Lupe got all in his feelings about sunchips on some inside joke shit that only he was aware of.. of course Royce got upset with Lupe's personal disses, now we got 2 top tier rappers in their feelings about dumb shit.. sticks n stones bruh..
@@arturomontes5884but then Royce does the same shit. He talks shit on blogs Ig and other platforms when people say shit about him
Look no further than his interview where he was telling Canibus to LEAVE ME ALONE. Despite Royce initiating the issue
You are simply being a hypocrite. Just own it
Lupe tells WHY that isn’t a line that’ll fly with him. And maybe won’t fly with many Chicago artists either who knew about the little girl Lupe is referring to
He wasn’t saying her story was not real. He’s saying the fantasy track he made of her Life? Wasn’t real but he wishes it was
Cuz she got shots in her. And it was cuz her dad stole the dude’s playstation
If you truly don’t get WHY Lupe reacted how he did? That’s a LONG long meditating you need to do on Life in general
And to that? Lupe matched Royce’s energy. Like, “that’s how you feel foreal? Well, then I say we don’t need you living either then”
Royce always tries to play it off like he’s simply chilling
Nah, him and Budden are more alike than people think
royce: who u talkin to ?
lupe: nigga who u think is talking!!?
fire rebuttal
This is so corny 💀 it’s beef, no it’s not beef, I just want to say mean things to you lyrically and then take it personal 💀
I explosive diarrhea
The title of this video is Exactly what Lupe was talking about.. The media gonna flip it to their advantage regardless what the truth is
And called out the usual suspects lol ☕
So let me get this straight, Royce didn't want to battle on EO dubb because he couldn't get personal and turns around and get personal on wax and this whole situation spinned out of control because of that 🤔
- I have a headache 😄😄😄💯
when you gotta ride the cotails of another rapper you might look at a rapper like lupe and hate on him....lupe may not be the most popular but he stands on his own two feel like a man.
15:35 - 16:55 Checkmate.. Time to wrap it up and go home fellas.
FacT
💯🎯
Real spit I agree with Lupe. “Who the fuck you talking too?” - “nigga who the fuck you think is talking”
This why I love Lupe. Just a real nigga, real rapper, real HUMAN.
I didn’t even know they spoke until after I heard the diss records now I’m finding all these videos. Shit came out of nowhere for me
Ya man super crazy stuff
Lupe & Factz had a right to respond because Royce was always disrespectful from the beginning. Royce had said he was being sarcastic when he was arguing with Factz but sarcasm is technically a form of disrespect. Royce just got in his feelings cuz Lupe & Factz had the better dis songs against him.
Both of them got emotional off of one line talk about getting in your feelings Royce wasn't even on it like that
@@osahar08 Right!!!
Lupe has never done anything better than royce lyrically lmao
@@darthrevan2957 Facts!!!
@@dirtydocmccruddy I swear lupe fans are worse than drake and kanye fans. I didn't even know lupe had a cult following 😂😂
This is what Royce means when dissing someone without disrespecting someone..
I seen lupe at stacks funeral solo ..real one ...
That was his MAN fr
Stack lived wit Lupe out in Chicago early in his career and they was in the streets gettin' it. Lupe a street dude frfr, he just don't condone that lifestyle nomore.
56:51 Realest shit you gonna hear in this industry
EODUB or the same cries about Vlad for the past 10 years?
@@LurnWell but where is the lie in his statement 🤫🤫
@@slickjames2956 "Everybody" . Now where is the answer to my question?🤫🤔
@@LurnWell both bro you can't deny that both statements were absolutely true and current
@@slickjames2956 I really wanted to see what you thought about EODUB. I didn't know it existed. I'm not trolling. So far as Vlad, he makes it known he's going to ask the tough questions before hand. I watched Dan Rather and Rivera ask tough questions my whole life. I'm sure they were cool with some of the people they asked, but that's journalism. Only in Hip Hop do people cry about the questions. I don't see enough Accountability in the community, so I'm just tired of hearing it really.
But how the fuck Lupe gonna be mad about Royces hypothetical violence bar, and then turn around and say he wish Royce was dead....? How the fuck does that make sense? You can't act like you're on some moral mountain and then just stoop down into bullshit like that, over a bar that was totally based in fantasy. Lupe doesn't even have a son.... but he took that bar so personal he said he wished another person was dead....? This shit is silly
Lupe is a holier than thou person. Thinks his shit don’t stink and has proven to be very hypocritical
Is it ironic that Lupe just mopped Royce in a battle.
Thank you Lupe... If I ever get the honor to rap alongside you my life would actually have meaning again... maybe rap too
RIGHT!! "I'm not finna have that conversation in front of ya'll!"😎(Agreed)
I like why Lupe likes EOW. It’s the more technical and I’d say “nerdy rap battle” and I HATE watching gun bars all day too because there’s so many different ways to battle, but as creative as it seems, most of the time you are only watching one form of battle rap and eow is easily more versatile and as Lupe says, if you are going to be with the nerdy ones and be nerdy, you might as well go hard or go home. I’m all about that go hard or go home shit. Eow is probably less creative in some aspects if you watch battle rap like url and kotd and wanna watch eow, but you have to understand that each part is like A multiple choice question. You don’t even know what to expect. In url or KOTD you know exactly what to expect and even tho it can catch you by surprise, you still know what to expect.
Royce ... That throwing rocks hiding yo hand shit don't work when we seen the live... Stop being so sensitive.. summon the Eminem and Proof battle energy and stop whining please
niggas coppin out tryma take this seem like beef ..
This is sad that two legends are having this disagreement...I wish them both peace but to me it seems like Lupe never came off disrespectful to royce from the jump
It's true .. ego kills
This is that real message yall.Thats why I stopped recording alot of people.
Drogas waves is a great vibe
I don’t understand this concept of diss records without disrespect. How they both make diss records and then get sensitive about the diss records??? Imagine Hov and Nas doin blogs about their feelings hurt after Takeover and Ether. This what we doing now in Hip Hop? Nah these 2 could NEVER do URL. Too emotional.
@ANYTHNG G03S I remember that shit, Nas was just speakin facts, technically jay was the emotional one
@ANYTHNG G03S Lupe isn’t necessarily in his feelings though. He wanted Royce to stop with his bullshit before he got lyrically murdered, Royce didn’t and that’s what happened and decided to keep talking bullshit. Lupe is always the one on live trying to set the record straight, he been doing this with artists before Royce came into the picture lol. Lupe is “what trying to keep the peace” look like. When he said “you want to come and battle a fuckin demon? Go ahead start practicing” Royce wasn’t ready lol.
@@demian215 Nas entire Ether had zero facts it was all playground insults about Dick sucking lips, cockafella records etc
I remember this shooting, horrible tragedy.
Lupe lookin real classy here imo.
"niggas always quick to say who you talking to, who the fuck you think you talking to, my rebuttal is, 'nigga who the fuck you think is talking'"
Seems like they were never friends. Just a mutual respect to each others pen.
Imagine if he said “in regard to this Royce fiasco “
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There was no friendship for you to end, stay in your lane. The fact is Royse doesn't need any help from friends in his beefs. You apparently do though. Y'all idiots better hope he don't rally his homies.
If. If. Maybe. Maybe. If.
If if was a fifth, Kevin. If if if he brings the homies, oh no! You (Royce fans) all sound like middle school kids. That man asked for this ass whooping.
Let him get what he wants.
Royce dissed him first you goofy. Lupe shot his face off then Royce kept talking violence. Yall tourists and stans sound crazy. And im a Royce fan
@@DoubleN517 lmao and they acting like Mickey came to help lupe. Royce went at Mickey too. Mickey was literally defending himself.
@@DoubleN517 #allfacts
Why are both sides complaining that the other went to far??? Shut up and get in the studio and bring some 🔥🔥🔥🔥
One thing that both of these guys have is that they take themselves sooooooo seriously.
YOU SHOULD TAKE YOURSELF SERIOUSLY TOO... OR NO ONE ELSE WILL..
Lupe you made the song choppas lol. Now you got a problem with the sun chips line
The whole song is satirical in its message with constant contradiction. Royce’s diss had an intended target.
@@AutoAnomoly come on. Royce aint shooting nobody for this beef the same way Lupe raps about spraying choppas. its ridiculous. lol Lupe is talking about biggie and pac. its just some niggas rapping. Royce is just street so of course, he's gonna get bully with it. If it really was a problem like that, he'd call trick trick
Lupe won, it come down to he just smarter and more talented than Royce. Royce got what he wanted and he lost now he in his feelings trying to justify his BS with it got too personal...please its battle its hip hop he throws rocks and now trying to hide your hands. Can't wait for new Nas album August 6 KDII.
Yeah, but Lupe all in his feelings, too. If not more so. He said he wished Royce was dead... thats wild af
@@justinroberts7899 it’s a bar bro.
@@ThaSoloist you mean exactly like the bar that Royce said, but Lupe is losing his mind about......?
@@ThaSoloist what Royce said wasn't even based in reality, cuz Lupe ain't got no kids.... Lupe wished that man dead over a bar that doesn't even apply to him.....
I don't think Royce is the only one in his feelings what you just wrote was way off I think he just explained why it's a little deeper than that it's actually not really a battle
This is what we need for A battle rap as far as contact: if someone bumps you sound A warning and next bump or something they get DQd with NO PAY. Now if they’re more DISCIPLINED, they get to bump you back and since they were bumped first they can bump you even after they bump you BACK and they are now ahead by one bump. Absolutely no fighting or ruining the battle for the fans and tapes that should be number one. Imagine comedy specials getting cancelled before it’s done. Beyond unprofessional should be suspended and no pay AND if you fight AND ruin the battle for taped and fans then you can’t come back for like A year or some real time like 5 years get mfs really on board. 2020 hip-hop and lyricism is expanding there is NO REASON ANYONE should be ready to battle rap and ends up fighting. Only bitches go to A battle rap and fight idgaf what you talking. How about this rule, anyone who fuck it up for hip-hop over A fight gets beat the fuck up. Yeah, no one will agree with this it’s stupid, but I had to say it because I know someone respects that fair ass understanding. I am Hip-Hop and nothing anyone can really do to fuck it up, period it’s stronger than ever and the strongest manipulator, PERIOD. Hip-Hop is everything and I want every piece of it. It’s biggest music genre and most culturally influential base right? Imagine how big it would’ve been had we not lost pac, big pun, big l, GURU- just imagine all that we are losing when you try to stop even the small underground-like stuff. You are risking HISTORY. I am hip-hop. Respect me, please family.
He called 3 Letterman a random nigga 🤣🤣🤣🤣. But it was wired, him just watching, not saying anything.
He is a random tho
2 guys in my top 5 involved in battle against or for one another is a win win fir me... If they battle dace to face a true lyrical war then shake hands to end the story its a victory for hip hop
Take ur time when typing and read over when done typing
Royce is in ur top 5?
@@aidyn7758 yep
Y’all Be Talking about Battle Rappers but y’all can’t deal with 1 round of today’s battle style. We knew Lupe wasn’t gangsta but y’all are next level emotional 😭 All of y’all. It’s embarrassing really. All this conversation of intelligence. Yall don’t have no common sense or communication skills so forget all the big words and crocodile tears. Drop it. Yall not Rappers, y’all are Recording Artists.
Everytime I drive by black cars that apart of funeral service I have the music low to no sound to pay my respect
And, if Lupe was all about EOW, and how you're not allowed to diss people, so he proceeds to make video after video of him dissing people.... made a 9 minute live, dissing Mook and Lux and didn't even have the audacity to name them.... Lupe is heavily rationalizing his own bullshit, and making his own missteps somebody else's fault.....
Lupe a funny acting dude lol ending a friendship over something you got sensitive over 😂😂
Royce didn't get sensitive first??? I hate fans...especially eminem fans...you only like royce because he patched that shit up with eminem...
I mean were they really friends? They've never met in person. They were more like acquaintances. So Royce got mad at Lupe because he yelled at him? I'm pretty sure many of Royce's friends have yelled at him and he's let it go. They weren't friends...
@@bus1inyagirlsbut when did royce get sensitive first? Literally curious because I've only been paying attention since a few days ago
Lupe hopped on the live and was loud so Royce called him a “bitch”… from that moment the energy changed
Let’s speak on facts, It wasn’t that deep a friendship fam, they never even met other than video and pod. But regardless every has their own reason they’d leave a friendship, even you. And regardless of what your reason was someone can always claim it’s a being sensitive reaction. His “friend” constantly tried to son him, another grown ass man, a man more successful in their game, and a man who acknowledges to being a nerd in general but still has chi town street connections rather he speaks on it or not. Just his fam and people from that environment are going to back his play because he represents them. People outgrow each other as well all the time. Only a fool would keep ties with someone that doesn’t respect them..... not to mention I was a fan of Royce from early days but he’s been exposed and is playing both sides now, the bully and the non accountable victim. Sounds like his mental health isn’t right again. Peace
“LOOK AT THE GLACIER!!!”
Nerd might get off in that ass physically! Better leave Lupe alone! Lol.
& Royce is in my top 10!
Lupe used to be room mates wit Stack Bundles when he was in Chicago early in his career. He want yall to think he a nerd😂😂.
Alot of people just speaking without knowing on here. To be clear Royce said he'd beat Lupe in a rap battle (to the best rap battlers), then called him a b*tch. Lupe freestyled and Royce dropped a diss saying he'd shoot mickeys son and a bunch of other lines. Lupe responded and exposed him as a fake smart dude. Royce kept talking and told Mickey he dissed his son then said Murals wasnt dope. Mickey dissed him. Now Royce dissing Math Hoffa and saying everyone wants violence when hes the ONLY one threatening violence.
Royce talking on live and threatening violence/throwing stones and hiding his hand is causing him to get dissed. And instead of rapping Royce just keeps talking and saying its not his fault.
Royce is bringing this on himself then acting too good to rap.
This whole thing started really cuz slaughterhouse didn’t want Lupe to replace Joe Budden but who am I
Damn i remember him offering to fill joes spot but i forgot and didn't connect the dots... i think you're onto something 😅
Nah.this started cuz of Royce
@@chriskeepit100 so Lupe never tried to get into slaughterhouse and wasn’t allowed? Do some research. He’s bitter.
Y’all both sound nuts right now
I'm saying though this whole thing is weird lol
Shits gonna get more weird 🤣
What’s weird about saying the gangster-rap culture is largely useless and destructive. Rap is Rap but shit has transitioned to some goofy pointless killings that ain’t helping anyone. If you from the hood and can’t see that your one of the living-dead walking amongst us.
@@Jjonescp3 neither one of these guys do gangsta rap so take that to a king con video or something
@@Jjonescp3 *you’re
This lovers Quarle is getting out of hand 🤣
Would've been on to something but they never met in person. Lol
*quarrel
This lovers what?
Bro I love lupe but the fact they him
And Mickey holding on that sun chips line so hard is soooo corny
He explained why that line matters from the jump! Did you not listen to this at all???
Once again do you think it's possible that a rapper can ever
have a conversation without spewing Eminem out of their mouth.
I was thinking the same shit on some Eminem shit 😂 he wana battle em so bad
Most Hip-Hop conversations nowadays DON'T include Eminem, stop lying, he is mentioned here only because Royce is involved.
Only cause he sold the most records and this doesn't mean he is the best
Good talk. Thank you bro
This shit was so insightful
Shout out thanks for watching
The sun chips line is too far but 1. It wasn’t even meant for Mickey and 2. Lupe said death should have taken Royce instead of Biz Markie before Royce even responded. Hmmm I don’t think so Lupe.
What do you mean "even responded"?
Royce said that shit first bro
Royce told Mickey to take it as if it was meant for him
@@popandlock69 It wasn't for Mickey but sometimes you get sick of nigga for whatever reason and you just be like fuck it now it is. I've done that.
I’m guessing you didn’t listen to the entire video. The record Lu put out was AFTER the record Royce put on. It renders your point moot.
Stop it, y’all not BIG and Pac level
Nobody said they were… he just meant he didn’t want it to get to that level of beef
@@chrismalinowski654 it can’t. This is not beef at all. This is backpacker nonsense.
Two-faced Lupe. EODUB is cool because you cannot diss, but well dude was quick to diss Royce with personals. Truth is Lupe is a top notch lyricist and super intelligent but the passive-agressive type that loves to twist shit around to fit his narrative. You're enjoying this too damn much. That sun chips line was just some wordplay crap and sounded absolutely nothing ill-willed unlike that Biz Markie line Lupe was quick to rhyme for rebuttal. But then he wants to jump from that into a real situation with a real baby getting killed and get sensitive about it. I praise dude as an emcee but his personality type is a no around people like me. And I am not even no alpha male. I'm just a regular old male.
Well said
Facts dude got some weird energy about him. The type of nigga to laugh at everything in tense situations to hide his hate for you.
Why Royce ain't treat Yelawolf like treating Lupe... Foul nicca
But tbh, this beef and song dissing was not necessary... They should've done it like how tory lanez and Joyner Lucas was doing it, just choose a beat and see who comes up with the better version,let the fans vote... Now the friendship and podcast is gone out the window over sum dumb sh!t, this IG stuff can really ruin lives frfr... All we needed was friendly competition coz ya'll f*#ked with each other... I love music but this is sad
This sounds like it could be resolved with a phone call. After listening to both lives, it seems like they both view disrespect differently. The miscommunication from the 9 minute freestyle and the sun chips bar seems similar as well
Exactly a easy fix
Yup they all look like clowns. Social media is making men who should be elders in the game look like toddlers. Lupe talk all this talk....he should have had private convos not arguments on Live.
@@njugunagishuru9253 if you think Lupe is talking alot what the fuck is Royce doing lol
They both view disrespect differently? This all started because Royce called Lupe a bitch. Everybody view that the same way, as disrespect.
@@BlackLight_VA did you watch lupe's live or not? He was mad about a few specific things and it had nothing to do with being called a bitch
So you say let’s do EOW so there’s no dissing but you enter the lyrical exhibition dissing? Makes no sense
thats where I got confused too? Why bring up EOW when the tracks have nothing to do with it, all the tracks made was reactionary off what they said about each other
The EOW offer was before the beef really got started I think?. Once Royce went off the deep end, Lupe said fuck it and took the dive anyway
Wait so Royce is in his feelings ? Wtf is this dude on ? His feelings ! Royce hurt his feelings and that’s why he got super personal in his diss track .
All 3 of these cats got their feelings hurt . End of story .
What rap do u write when someone tells you "rap bitch"? A technical masterpiece? Lol
I love Lupe and Royce, lupe is a freaking mad scientist and he’s ions above the rest when it comes to raw intelligence.
Royce is so cold on the bars.
I DO NOT think Royce was being serious, he was rhyming dirty dozen style. Maybe the sunchips bar isn’t as personal as saying someone is specifically trifling because of a specific situation that’s not known publicly.
A lot of battle rappers talk about shooting each other and each other’s family members.
Lupe you know this brother.
2 different versions of what’s deemed “personal”
Just my thoughts ✌️❤️
Edit: I’m halfway through and lupe said EO Dubb isn’t about dissing.
This makes more sense now, but I don’t think anyone knew that’s why you was recommending it Lupe. It is a lot more structured than camps talking about pressing each other. Makes perfect sense.
Royce, go do it man screw it. Go do the challenge 💯
I doubt he will actually take that specific challenge. There's a certain kind of stubbornness about him, maybe reminiscent of Budden's disposition, that I don't think allow him to do that. "Nah, I already put my track out there. Keep the nerd ish over there because I don't owe you anything." That's probably what would go through his head.
Mickey's response also didn't help his case because he straight up turned in the assignment Royce gave out, checking all the boxes :p , and did exactly what Lupe said he could do with Royce's style for extra credit lol. I can see him just trying to get SH involved only to end up proving Lupe's point to a lot of listeners.
lupe has said there are lot of bars which is personal but people won't understand it more like a inside joke .. some were i don't care fo r big gums and small teeth making fun of lupe teeth .. you love white people more than you respect black people was cut out content from their podcast and alot of things which only lupe and royce knows .. so that's not good if he wanted to say he better rapper their shouldn't have been any sneaky shots and stuff .
How can you end a friendship you were never loyal to! These are fake friends. I smell alot of envy coming fron Lupe. He wishing for a spotlight! Haha
No … stop doing hot-takes. Lupe don’t care about spotlight
@@Jjonescp3 Facts. Lip been had the spotlight already, he’s definitely not concerned about that kinda shit.
I don't think lupe is searching for the spotlight since he has a higher status than royce
Lu’s spotlight is as bright as Royce,if not brighter
If one desires the spotlight, Royce is wayyy down on the list of guys to help you obtain it. You think about it, outside of he records with Em he doesn’t have one record that the masses know. Not one…
Royce saying Lupe like white people better than black people but Eminem is his daddy. 🤔😂😂😂
Basically it's nerds vs street. New reactionaries vs old rebels
Just to clarify whose the nerd and whose street?
@@stereo-type1510 if you gotta ask stay out of that lol. Especially when the sides were self declared hahahaha
@@rasaanshakur9491 that's deep
Royce isn’t street @ all 😂
@@user-tk7rl6hw6c he try to act like it.
How can it be a biggie & pac when neither one of y'all on that kind of vibe more like Common & Drake . This getting corny
Do you know both these guys actual backgrounds? Do your homework.
Facts. Dont wanna hear how this nerd was bangin
@@TheMaddBlackMann Why do yall think "nerds" aren't about that life? 😂 Just because someone doesn't have tattoos or talk tough and like anime, do yall not think they are capable of violence? Y'all kill me with that foolishness
@@J.I.0 about what life? This shit is mad corny
What is Lupe talking about?? Big and Pac 😂😂😂😂 one thing is clear he HATES Royce and has done for some time. Cause this can't get to big and pac levels cause this ain't that serious... Well that's what we thought.
Lupe can say all he wants that it’s not going to be Chi vs Detroit, or go past rapping but the longer beefs last, the more likely it escalates. Happens all the time. So ya, maybe Royce is overthinking it but maybe he doesn’t want it to get that far. I’d love to see all these lyrical beasts go on for months, just trying to think what might be in his head.
😂😂😂 it’s all rap bro
Royce had no reason to sit up on a high horse, knowing Marshall and a lot of others are better than checking boxes than him
A lot others like WHO???
Grow up dude ....it’s tragic , you felt justified to attack ....Royce too ....both of you ...it might be good for rap culture , but it’s not good for culture as a whole ........sad
Royce wasn't talking about that situation with that baby. He wasn't even talking about Mickey's son. That was something that he said to Mickey in a conversation when Mickey asked if that was about him. Royce said no, but you can make it about you. These narratives over rap. This whole thing is wack all around. This isn't hip hop....
People really be soft these days. Sitting there fighting tears back
The most irrelevant beef in the history of hip hop
If you want a podcast in rap you gotta retire like Joe did
So why did you make this shit personal? Yall went from who the best rapper to a personal attack...yall brought this energy cuz...
This is why. They were on IG live. Royce was like “hey. Let’s Battle”. Lupe was like “ok cool. Let’s go to EO Dub”. EO Dub is a venue where rappers rap lol. But they don’t diss. Just a lyrical display. Royce was lyke “no. Let’s go to ‘URL’”. URL is a venue, like Madison square garden, but for rap and not basketball. But it can get filthy. You can Diss all you want at URL so it can get physical. Lupe was lyke “Lux just called me talking about rapping ” Royce was lyke “NO LUX (a rapper) didn’t call you !!!!” Lupe was lyke “umm. I just got off the phone with lux. Anyway yeah let’s battle at EO dub” then Royce was lyke “LUX DIDNT CALL YOU. OK BITCH. STEP IN THE RING”. Royce brought that energy
@@YardratZ BINGO
@@YardratZ Im following you... but it looks like royce got tricked into a fight... And the battle rap community sponsored it... I aint mad but the reason for the personal attacks just dont sit right wit me... its 2021... the sun chips bar wasnt cray enough to garner the reaction it got. but I get ya point my dog
@@FishScaleNetwork oh yeah most def. I think Lupe was just made cause he was lyke “yeah I just got off the phone with loaded lux” and Royce went full female mode and was lyke “oh nooo you didn’tttttt bitch”. Wasn’t about the sunchips lol
@@YardratZ this is insightful for me tbh... Im from Detroit so thats how we talk but I get why that could make an out of towner feel a way... same time, like I said I feel like this was the goal... to get him uncomfortable enough for that ring... Because once this is over, Royce still has Loaded Lux sittin bacc like Akuma, WATCHING... OG fell for that bait and now he in a spot
Remember when Kain and O Dog was arguing in Wax car? That's what somebody gotta tell these nighas.
Greetings from Munich Lupe.
Speak on it bro !!!
Man you really think Royce gone shoot your son while he eatin sun chips? Thats gaslighting and deflecting at its finest.... What if their son eats doritos? 😂😂
This nigga lupe and Mickey was really reaching about this Sun Chip Bar...
Sounds like the same thing Royce was referring too. To prove lyrical abilities as oppose to disses
One of the dopes songs ever.. and Allen forever too
My wife cried when saw the pictures of Alan on the beach. I love the story he made for them.
@@nottanyne facts.. that’s why I can’t put anyone above him lyrically. He is a master
Royce got weird on us
Both parties are too emotional and neither one would make it in the URL, we just wanna hear a good battle/diss records
Yo LU if it wasnt for those T shirts that Jimmy made we would have never met!!!!! LMFAO
Wow Royce ain’t mention this part. Smfh
Why Royce ain't treat Yelawolf like treating Lupe. Royce gave Yelawolf a love talk.. 🤔
Man This dude obviously was trying to use Royce as a too to give publicity to eow. He thought he could openly disrespect him and act a fool and bait him into showing up and giving all that publicity. Which saw it coming from a mile away and didn't bite that obvious bait. Mickey and Royce actually had a misunderstanding that hurt both of their feelings in different ways and there was a real issue that they ended up sqashing. Lupe Is acting a fool and Pretending to be something he obviously isn't ( Because people who are really About that kind of life don't show off their guns and shit or run their mouth like that because that brings heat that they don't need) in an attempt to get publicity to eow. Does anyone actually believe for one second that Osiris is the best rapper in the world, because he's on top of that eow shit like Lupe said? I guarantee you but the rhymes would destroy him right now. Busta Rhymes always says he'll take anyone anytime anywhere in any way. So why not invite him there or bait him Lupe? Why not call out Mook or Remy MA? He knows exactly what would happen if he called out someone that would show up and destroy all of his men. But no he called out someone who was never really a battle rapper and goes track for track with people on more philosophical stuff. In a Royce song you're more likely to get advice from Royce than him taking your head off usually unless hes with Eminem. He knew Bruce would not be interested in that so hes making it seem like Royce is scared of these youngsters That can't really hold a candle to real battle rappers. I gave EOW a chance and It's an interesting concept and and there are talented people but but they aint the best in the world and that particular competition doesn't prove that they are. Lupe did a risk assessment of rappers It was trying to find who had the most prestige on their name but still wouldn't show up to that kind of competition so when they said no or suggested something else like going track or track he could talk shit and promote eow. That is strange about bitchmaid move and It's obvious what hes doing if you go back and watch the videos. He aint intelligent with it when he's trying to bait Royce And it's so transparent what he was actually doing. As for Mickey I get why Royce thought the Caprice line was overstepping in a way vecause he has openly said for many years said he does not want his name attached to beef like that anymore. At the same time I get why Mickey said it, ecause Royce was being pretty disrespectful in his own way the last time they were hanging out . At 1 time he might have let that that get to him and drop a diss track like that on Royce, But he is not a youngster in the game anymore he is a peer now and deserves better than silly jokes from old timers.
You don't watch battle rap.....you said Busta rhymes
@@virtue1803 Yo you'll remember when Busta Rhymes and Kr S1 When at each other of the top of the head? Yeah Kr S took that 1, but Busta ain't No slouch on the freestyles. Or how about when him Mos Def did that improve result back in the day that was ill as hell. I used to cop bootlegged VHS tapes of Kr S1 And drive multiple states to get them. I've been watching battle rap, since the cypers in New York public parks where The foundation of all of this hip hop was built. I've seen people go at each other before Rick ruben even made a hip hop beat. So when I say Busta Rhymes Could come in there and do it easy I'm speaking truth. But really what would be better is if Remie Ma came in there Because then they could simultaneously be beat by someone who is objectively better, But these youngsters that are cosplaying as gangsters Can actually be around someone that was about that life at 1 point for the first time in their lives. But my point is he called out someone he knew wouldn't come because that is not the kind of shit he does To try to make this shit he's into legitimate. Like I said does anyone honestly believe like he said that ocean is that Osiris is the best rapper in the world? Redman could walk up in there right now and destroy him while being funny about it. All that being said about Lupe and his bs I respect the fuck out of Mickey and and is this and why he felt he had to do it.
Another tourist talking like an expert. Royce just cried for 2 hours last night and you don't rap or watch battle rap so you dont even know the basics of what goes into a verse today. Royce started this running his mouth to battle rappers and that checking boxes talk was him being vague to seem better than he is. Royce dissed first and threatened violence first. He had big words and threatened to shoot Mickey factz son. Lupe responded and bodied him directly. All those big words dont matter in a battle.
@@DoubleN517 And I get why Royce feels that way because he is on record saying I am not the guy that does beef anymore that's not what I'm about anymore. And they squashed all that anyways so obviously you aren't cut up on the story. Because it wasn't specifically about his son. However it was disrespectful as fuck on Royce's part wheb when Mickey asked if it was about his son he pretty much said why the fuck not. Royce was not treating Mickey with respect as a peer and Mickey came at of him and flamed him. But they got together talked a little bit off camera beforehand and they squashed all of that they're cool. Lupe however did what he did and is acting like someone he clearly isn't to get publicity for EOW plain and simple. Don't tell me when Lupe said Osiris was the best in the world and EOW proves it We all didn't think Osiris is nice, but he can't fuck with Mook any day of the week. I have all respect for Mickey and he did exactly what he should have done and now the beef is squashed, because he came at it as a man. He was being a man when he put out the diss that was justified and he was a man when they put all of that behind them and talked it out. Yeah lupe is straight being fake as hell right now while accusing everybody who is everybody who isn't playing with EOW of being fake and scared. Yo yo does not prove you are the best rapper in the world more than any other rap competition. If me and you are playing world combat and you're good on the xbox but I've always been playstation It would be silly for you to go only the people who rule on this xbox platform are the best. You aint shit unless you put yourself on the xbox. I hold Lupe as an amazing rapper that is far too often slept on it the conversation of great MC'S and my opinion of his skills have not changed. However I lost all respect for him as a person Because hes trying to use one of his peers as a tool to promote to promote subsidies into. He doesn't have a real problem with someone so he dropped a diss record. He came out straight disrespectful flashing guns flashing guns that have never been shot and acting a fool to promote a new type of competitive rap competition while saying any other way you could measure an MC doesn't count anymore. I mean that is some naive shit and out of every party involved know this Lupe is by far the most naive and childish. Meanwhile Mickey was such an adult and man With everything he did and how he approached up that I think he probably taught Royce It's a good lesson on how to be mature about shit proving that He can destroy shit effortlessly. I mean when he went into the fucking Cannabis flow and then switched into the Royce flow and then went back into his while talking his shit I was mad impressed. I mean I knew he was skilled and I had respect for him before And I've got people turned on to his shit that we're sleeping on him , but it turns out we've all been sleeping on him and he's better than we all thought even if you thought he was top tier beforehand.
@@alexgregg1058 I agree with all you're saying, but I think you also missed the point of Royce saying take the sun chip bar. He was saying, you obviously want to take things in a way so it seems like we battle, so if you want it that much take it how you want it. He doesn't owe an explanation of his lyricism. Sun chips line was very very obvious hyperbole. It's a lyricist flex, "I'm so bad I'll do this..", it's swag. Typical Royce style to use lines like that as well, so I'm super surprised it went over so many heads. Why would people be thinking Royce is on that shit, that's another thing. He didn't even want this shit to begin with. He's very clear on his mentality on beefs, he been about all that way back. He's a builder, not tearing down. Anyone should know he's not out here wanting to kill sons.
Royce struggling to stay relivant.