Why is Balochistan ignored by the Mainstream Media? - Waqas Alam on Gwadar Flooding -
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- Опубликовано: 23 июл 2024
- Waqas Alam comes back on The Pakistan Experience to discuss the recent flooding in Gwadar, the Structure of the Pakistani State and why Balochistan is ignored by mainstream media.
In this episode we discuss the rains in Gwadar, flooding, the bureaucracy, the difference between the two Gwadars, Fishing Culture, Climate Change, Climate Mitigation, the Sardari System and more.
Waqas Alam Angaria is a baloch journalist associated with Geo News. He has covered 2022 floods extensively and Gwader flood 2024. He covers a variety of topics, including human rights, heritage, politics, and natural disasters. He had been active in student politics before becoming a journalist. He was a member of the National Students Federation and later became president of Progressive Students Federation Karachi. He tweets @waqasaalam
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Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
1:30 Flooding and Rain in Gwadar
13:00 Climate Change, Drought and Flooding
16:30 Government, Bureaucracy and Balochistan
27:00 Fishing Culture in Balochistan and Respect for Nature
34:00 Climate Mitigation
45:50 Media ignored floods in Gwadar
58:30 Sardari system in Balochistan and State Structure
1:20:00 Academic work in Pakistan
1:26:30 Why does mainstream Pakistanis not care about the peripheries
1:29:00 Audience Questions 
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Thanks for raising voice for Balochistan and Balochs, the most deprived and ignored in Pakistan.
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What voice he is raising he is absolutely nonsense
@@manojbhavsar9217 to Aap anpe face ke sath ye baatay karena
Allah will meet all Balochs as Allah loves Muslims.
These ppl were xxced up when they converted to religion of Rich.
Islam is cover for rich man who controls Mullahs too.
Mullahs are paid by rich.
Islam will keep you illiterate and poor.
Allah is Great.
Levies can save Low life but Rich will not build levies.
Visited Gawadar back in March 2021 for the investment construction & thesis on Floods in Pakistan.
As an Architect, gave them solutions & identify the same problems related to “Kachi Abadi” & waterway been blocked with the unauthorised seizure by private housing schemes. The director hardly met for 10 minutes but the team of GDA had brief sessions.
One more problem they face & have problem was the fencing of the area & check-posts after every 500 metres.
After watching this podcast, it is said to say that what we predicted are the same issues till this day.
One Handsome Sindhi host ,
another more Handsome Baloch Guest.Enlightening Discussion.Just WoW!!👌
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Because he is not dear to speak
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It's very difficult to say truth in Pakistan most of channels can't share actual news. I salute you and your team for giving us extraordinary news and truly explaining the ground reality
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What a discussion which Touched my heart.. Baluchistan discussed with courage with two Geniuse Young intellectuals.
Highly appreciated.
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Wasaq Alam jitni achi Balochi bolty hain Utni hi achi Urdu bhi bolty hain. Specially you've represented the people and issues brilliantly
Waqas Alam is such a good narrator ! Words flow out of his mouth in such a fluid manner. Love the podcasts each time you invite him!
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Please discuss Balushistani missing person first which is more important then other
Sir please do Podcast about missing Baloch Students who are kidnapped by Military
Insallah Balochistan will be independent country along with sindhudesh...Pakistani punjabis will be a landlocked country
just like boroland, khalistan, dravidaland, tamilland, moasit country...
in your dreams
Reality baby it's karma baby
😂🤣 chewtiye Bangladesh ban gya na ab Ese hi Balochistan bhi aazad hoga😂😂@@bladycivilian
Mungeri Lal ke haseen sapne.
29:10 that is why indegeneous people always respect nature. Only Sanatan is one of the big religious population who still keeping this tradition.
Then why majority of "sanatan" followers support zionists who are destroying Palestinian land and olive trees
Khalistan ❤ Bangaldesh 🇧🇩
Ye Bangladesh Naya suna aaj
Sahi he bhai karate raho tum ye nafatri kide ho Bangladesh khalistan
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Thank God I've hear someone talking about " wo pani ko insan smjh rhi thi" I'm from Kashmir and I talk with water flowing near our house it's not river it's called Nala e Mal but not ganda nalla now it's shrinking, drying when I see this I feel like some of my own family memeber is leaving me but people who threw trash are so normal they don't care about nature ....I often thought why I'm only one who got perplexed when people damn care about anything I've a sort of very deep attachment with my "Pahar ,jo koi jangle reh gya hy us sy ,and with these nallas " ...I wish people realise this fact that this our land why we are deteriorating our only home
I agree with Waqas that no one knows what our policy makers want. Balochistan could've been a gold mine for Pakistan, but what we have made of it is simply horrible.
Interesting to hear about Gwadar. It could prove to be a gamechanger for the region if managed properly.
Let's take stand for the victims of Balochistan, tribal areas
I am feeling very sad for the Balochi people.
My Undergraduate Thesis is on Climate Justice Policy making. During my research I found that Policies in Pakistan are in place but there is no enforcement of those policies.
Please provide a list
Excellent conversation Shehzad! On natives being more aligned to nature wanted to highlight two points:
1. The Sindhi gods in pre Islamic days used to be thought as one who was born in water and he used to be prayed to when they got out in the sea and months later he used to be celebrated when they came back from the sea. And this used to be cyclical which means that they understood which season to go out and when to come back and stay on land. Points to Waqas' statement that without maths and chemistry they can say when fishes will come.
2. In the Mahabharata - the famous Hindu epic, the heroes are in exile and move from place to place. There are various stories which say that the animals in that forest used to come and tell them that please don't hunt here any more. Correlate with what you said that even when hunting natives were aware that how much to do!
Sad that we are becoming modern and yet moving away!
Apologies for a long comment but really appreciate the podcast!
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Brilliant narrative 🙏🏼
This Vlog is very informative and also interesting.
👏🙏👌👍 બહુ સરસ બાલુચ ભાઈ અમે તમારી સાથે છીએ
Am Nepal 🇳🇵 Hindu I stand with Khalistan Nagaland Kashmir Tamil freedom
Happy to see such podcasts by such people who really try to know the realities and show the realities...
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MashAllah! Allah waqas ko sehat or lambhi umer de❤
Most shore communities have a version of water god … Varuna amongst us Hindus … the fishing community is the most simplest cause they live with and at the same time generate livelihood from the sea
Thank you very much shehzad Bhai for bringing him on podcast.
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Sir please do podcast about Missing Baloch Students😢
Thank you.
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Mr Alam has shed light on the plight of the local Gwadar residents who have used the land and waters for survival for millenia; with so much empathy, passion and knowledge. it is indeed sad when power and politics dominates at the expense of the poor and disenfranchised like the Baloch. Why would they not become separatists when a proud people are reduced to dire straits and Punjabi zamindars/elite are so apathetic to their needs.
Excellent program
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Good discussion....
Good job Waqas Alam Lasi.
Brilliant! Glad to know someone is providing insight on the current affairs of Balochistan, apparently this is Pak news job.
PS:- whose next? Mahrang Baloch??
I can relate to both Shehzad Ghias and Waqas Alam. Hearing the situation in Sindh and Baluchistan from you is so sad. I'm sure similar things happen around the world. Shehzad and Waqas, you are the hope for Sindh and/or Baluchistan. The Punjab province is the defacto ruler. The other provinces are just a source of natural resources! The development of people in other regions is not the responsibility the Government!
Canada 🇨🇦 ❤ Khalistan
China 🇨🇳 ❤ Nagaland
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24:39 Yes Yes 👏👏
Great Shehzad Bhai , I keep saying , show your talent 🏆
Isko RUclips Shorts bana do 😆🙌
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Oh! I recall! Mene pehli dafa jb TPE dekha tha to wo Waqas Alam ki Karachi elections wali epi thi, or aj ek Saal or kuch maah Baad phr se Waqas Alam ko is podcast m dekh k boht acha Laga, thanks to him! And thank you thank you thank you Shehzad for such a great podcast and this much needed conversation!
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Bhai apna Patreon tou update kro just joined it but there not any update.
Great podcast very informative ...
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Thanks Waqas and Shahzad.❤
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It's so insightful. I have a suggestion that please provide some visual evidences as well so people have a better understanding of the real situation of our people living there. Thanks 🙏
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After this podcast black vigo is on its way😂
Agreed
Salam. Good talk Shehzad. Waqas Bhai is a fun and informative guest on the show. Fee Amaan Allah.
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Rise and be aware voice of Balochistan from ground level....I appreciated it .... from Balochistan❤
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Thanks yr for sharing 😢
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Pc hotel par jab hamla howa tah Sara riyasat ghum aur ghusay may tay lekin wahan k ghulam log baday khosh tay k aj khudaho k gardano par talwar latak rahi hai
Shehzad and Waqas in one frame. ❤❤
Waiting for Lyari stories.
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Exllent interested interview
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Brother i love your podcast but a humble request if you can one day make a podcast regarding sports like why it went so down in Squash Hockey and like no support even for Arshad Nadeem who has won so many medals with almost no support.
LOL is podcasts k baad mjhe ye joke seekhnay ko mila ke hamary han ministry of climate change bhi hai
What a gem of a guy, he really feels for the fellow human being. Iam from India and far removed from Gawdar, but it seems like people of Gawdar need the attention of Islamabad & Rawalpindi otherwise it can go the Bangladesh way. Great podcast Shehzad.
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When Ghan Ghafar Khan said to Gandhi ," you have thrown us to the wolves" , reading that about 30 yrs back, i thought it as an exaggeration. Now I know the real dimensions of that statement.
kettle calling the pot black. With what right British created India is ruling Goa and all Northeast " India"? British conquered almost all of the Chinese Burmese Tibet regions of so called "Northeast India" , Current Goa from Portugal and included it in their created India. With What right India attacked Portuguese Goa? Also explain what Kashmir and Kashmiris have anything in common with South Indians, Northeast India and 90% of NorthIndia ( Biharis, Gujratis etc)? Kashmir has been part of Harrappa (Pakistan) for over 10,000 years. All natural routes to Kashmir are from Pakistan.
@@sabrinakhan8217 Ha ha ha..Sabrina Khan, today IMF is drafting your country's budget. You have lost your economic sovereignty already. Youn will loose ur political freedom too in some time to the encroaching Taliban. Have fun in hell sister.
Your sense of history is laughable to say the least. Drink some water.
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Congratulations on 200k. 🎉
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Love you God bless you with good health and happiness from india.
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Good job waqas👏🏻
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What is the meaning of the word SARDAR in this conversation?
Zameendaar, single owner of the whole districts
So sad 😞 after knowing this
Being a Punjabi ......Baat BHI sach hai aur Baat bhi hai RUSWAAI Ki 😢
Pathan dictator yahya Khan ne Bangladesh banaya
Bruh Punjabi politicians R responsible coz ap dr malik baloch ki story parho
@@brassbaloch309 zardari Baloch destroy pakistan shame on Baloch politician
Good work
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بہت ہی اچھا قدم ے بلوچ آواز ارو اسطرح کی پوڈ کاسٹ میں پندرہ سال پہلے وہاں یعنی پسنی گوادر جیونی میں رہا ہوں لوگوں کی زندگی کا مشاہدمشاہدہ کیا آپ ان پانی تک نہیں دے سکے اور وفاداری طلب کرتے ہیں پاکستان کے پاس اخلاقی جواز ہی نہیں کے وہ بلوچ سندھ کے کچھ علاقے کے پی اور شمالی علاقہ جات سے وفا مانگے میں ایک پنجابی ہوں اور ایک عام فوجی بھی تھا لیکن حقائق تو حقائق ہیں ہم کب تک قوم سے چھپاہیں گے اور فوجی کنٹرول برقرار رہے گا ایک دن ضرور آے گا
Balochistan aur pakistan kisi sorat ek nahi ho saktay. Alag hona e sub k liye behtar hai nahi toh jung e sahi
Ja bhag ja lindu baloch don't have problem with Pakistan the problems are with all Pakistan not Balochistan specifically
Balochistan aur Pakistan Taa Hayat saath rahein ge. G*nd mein dum hai toh krwa le alag
Iranian Balochistan afghani Balochistan?
Mujhe ek baat samajh nahi aati. 5000 years old books mei abhi k balochistan and sindhu area mei bohot si talaab aur ped ki baat likhi hai. Aaj woh sab talaab aur ped kaise gayab ho gaye? Unki jagah bhi building bana li kya??
chalo kam se kam kuch sensible logo ko lekar aye tum podcast me. Jo sach bol payaa. Ye bhi gayab naa ho jaay kabhi ,bas ye dhyan rakhna
Frfr, this is so important, It is so to call out Punjab's colonial legacy.
Pathan dictator yahya Khan made Bangladesh
Muhajir dictator Musharraf sold million of pakistanis to americans
Waqas Bahi❤
Best Podcast
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God helps those who help themselves .
Before partition elections were held in1946 not in 1945. So you can say form 46 was converted into 47😊
THANKS SHAZAD🥰🥰🥰
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Informative, yet depressing 😡
28:44 😮
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Thts why in india we called longest river of India Ganga as maa ganga and every day Ganga pooja happen in Varanasi
Khalistan Jindabad
@@Phgeheh imf s loan aagya bikhari...free sindustan free Balochistan free pok
@@siddharthjain2920L you
Just Three our ago mery czn k dost ay thy from Faisalbad two to three guys are Punjabi and we talk k Faisabad mei kitny esy point hein jo direct army k control mei us ny jwab dia k koi bhi esi jga nhi na koi contonment ur na koi ur kuch then he said k bhai DG khan mei esi both sy points ur contonment hein jo direct ur en direct army control krta hei Then he said k yar yha to border hei na esi wja sy so mei ny pocha k bhai konsa border to kehny lga k Balochistan then am shocked k yar riyasat ny kitns brain wash kia en ko apny he ek soby k bary mei ye kitna kam janty hein
punjab nahi samraj zimadar hai
ham punjabi baloch nation ke sath stand karte hai
1:21:10 Anda Burger never gets old 😂😂
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@@ThePakistanExperience aapke paas Tameez ka number hai?
Log kehte hain Tameez se baat karo 😂
Mega dams are not a solution. A number of small dams makes sense.
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Need a podcast with Maulana Hidayat ur Rehman Pls
Good job bro...❤
Love u....bhai
Kaas aapse mil saku😊
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yaar abhi tak software update kese nahi hua aapka?
Belgium hamesha theek rahega, but it would be great of we could get bit more sun here 😂 Grey skies dekh dekh kar insaan insane ho jaata hai Belgium mein. Isliye beer zyaada peeni padti hai 😂😅
Thanks for including my question. However he just answered "separatist movements mere kehnay pe shuru nae ki" i think that is sort of a vague answer. I think this issue should also be addressed and if baloch call for rights and mobilize millions of other baloch outside balochistan then they can effectively get their rights in the federation of Pakistan and no separatist movement will be needed to get rights.
you like it or you don't but baloch only want Azad watan
@@ansarbugti9690 brother if u got azad watan can you tell me what will happen to the pashtun belt will they also want to live with you or not or the parts of Pashtun majority balochistan region will fight for pashtunistan ??? Secondly more than the entire population of Balochistan there are Baloch in Punjab only and number of baloch living in sindh is also very large. Their families are settled even before the creation of Pakistan in these provinces so what will will happen to them ? You will just be separated from Maority of Balochs . Wouldnt it be like that ???
@@muhammadumerazhar6633 pashtuns will decide for themselves. dg khan, rojhan, taunsa which are under punjab & kashmore jacobabad which were given to sindh are baloch majority areas will be merged with balochistan & were part of balochistan at the time of mir naseer khan of kalat 250 years ago
@@ansarbugti9690 pashtuns will decide for themselves does it mean that pashtuns will make their own country in upper balochistan region ??? By this virtue does it mean that upper part of balochistan where pashtuns are in majority will be disintegrated from other parts of balochistan ?? You mentioned areas of sindh . Dont you think sindhi nationalists will resist against baloch for taking these areas. By the way long before noori naseer khan DG khan was given to Ghazi Khan by Multan Sultanate and so technically it remained in the hands of baloch for only few years it was always part of punjab for most of his history . So even if u got succeeded in getting freedom you will only be left with Kalat state with Sistan remaining in the hands of Iran. Jacobaabad and Karachi with Sindh . Pashtun belt uniting with KPK or pashtunistan . As a result only division will take place.however by living within pakistan all will remain united
@@muhammadumerazhar6633 i don't know dude, pashtuns will decide themselves. dera ghazi khan city is named after ghazi khan mirani baloch & langah rulers of multan gave them their personal/state property & not punjab's the land was almost uninhabited & baloch built cities there so it belongs to baloch. people of jacobabad & kashmore will decide if they will join balochistan or sindh not sindhi nationalists.
knowledge without understanding can be the worst curse of all and understanding without even a rats shit worth of knowledge can be the best gift of them all
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@@nasirsayani662 ignorance is bliss. kia samjhao is se ziada
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Shahzad invite Qaiser Ahmed to your podcast. He is popular guest on podcasts these days but other hosts just nod at their guests opinion and it seems what they are arguing is correct. Your way of counter-questioning lays open the fallacies in the arguments of your guests. Commendable Job. And again do invite Qaiser Ahmed Raja😅
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Ya hi to baloch bolta hy Palestine ki new ma bat hoti hy lakin baloch Balochistan ki koi news nai chalana chata.
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Shahzad bhai Summi Den Ya Dr Mahrang ko toh invite kro kabi plz
Pawan Guru pani pita
Mata dharat mahat ( Guru Nanak Dav ji)
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Precisely this is the reason why Sarhad Paar people worship Rivers, Trees, Mountains, Jungles. Every river is considered as Devi and worshipped (except Brahmaputra which is considered as Dev), plants and trees have so much significance in every festival/ritual. If you see tribals they worship and protect these natural resources to another level. They have ways to thank Mother Nature and it's firmly believed that she's a goddess. Any natural fury or a calamity is considered as wrath of that goddess or god. Based on what is available in their region, things change but essence is the same.
While everyone is free to have his/her beliefs (whatever they are). What value have those beliefs when in PRACTICE rivers like the Ganges have massive environmental pollution issues
@Xulphy7 : You missed the point completely. You are free to worship whoever you want to but you need to understand that all these natural resources also create something or contribute in some way. So its our gratitude and we consider them as creators n hence gods... That's the same point being made in podcast too. Just need to open up a bit ....
@user-rh5jp2sh4s : True river pollution is a problem and has multiple factors contributing to it. But even before when these were not in this condition, places like Gangotri from where Ganga originates used to be worshipped and till today they are. Similarly.every confluence has it's significance and not to forget Kumbh Mela. These rivers are termed as 'Prandayini' means someone who gives life so rivers and all such things are equivalent to God for us...
Bhai that joke about JNU Canteen Udhaari is of Kunal Kamra and not of Tanmay Bhat😂
Shehzad it is good that you give a platform to this topic and such voices 👍
Talking of biases, in 👉59:27 you say that dictator General Musharraf was popular with the people of Karachi. Well if he was so popular there, why didn't his party APML take of in Karachi or Urban centres of Sindh. His party was a complete failure everywhere. Just to insinuate something by the fact that Musharraf belonged to one community is very wrong!
He was popular in the Karachi elite warna toh koi popularity nahee thee unki
Hain? Community wala element kahan say a gaya is mai boss? It wasn’t a communal comment, class par comment tha, community par nahee
Again first of all Musharraf was a dictator so no love lost
But fact is Musharraf belonged to a middle class urdu speaking family. Shahzad please don't try to be EXTRA smart, it is not only about the elite. You on purpose! said Karachi why not Lahore or Islamabad...or any other city. Just introspect and see your own biases... as we all should
Rather than assuming things or reading your own biases into what I’ve said, see all that I’ve said about Musharaf in the past, it has never been about his ethnicity. Even in this podcast we have an entire discussion on Punjab’s hegemony toh kya whataboutism about not mentioning lahore to somehow paint me as being against a specific community kahan say a raha hay?
I am not saying that you are against Urdu speaking people. NO!. But you do have a bias, there is a difference in scale. Those biases shine through when you try to make an of the cuff funny remark. There is a reason I gave a time stamp in my comment, so people can decide for themselves...
Interesting. The geography of gawadar sound almost similar to Mumbai. Except may be for population density. In such places, flooding due to rain has one huge unseen factor which is tide pattern of the sea. If suddenly huge amount of rain happens in short period during high tide the flooding is disproportionately high.
Not really, gwadad is like a Hamer inside sea.
Read my answer carefully. I had said Mumbai is almost like gawadar not mumbai is gawadar. Whenever any city is surrounded on 3 sides by sea, even more than average rainfall during high tide will cause flooding. And when all the drainage channel of qawadar are blocked by construction of port etc, the flooding is going to be worse. In India in all port cities, authority announce the high tide schedule with excessive rain beforehand though to predict rainfall with certainty is impossible. But then it is foolish to compare the two countries.
I feel only way Pakistan can remain as one country, is by converting Pakistan into federation of states and giving states full freedom in all other matters except defense and foreign affairs, charging the states some percentage of revenue towards defense expenses and general administration costs of central government.
1:35:12 WHAAAT?😳 No Way 😆
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Bhai tu relax kab karta hai. Thora aram kar yaar. Or Patreon ko mention kar audio main.
I’ll rest when I am dead
How will this country survive?
Hey Manjushri is the name of a Buddhist Benevolent Diety. There is a Bodhisattva Manjushri. This means Pakistan has a rich history of Buddhism as well!
Sounds like they don’t want local ppl in that area