There is not just one PAF sound!! Johan LUNDGREN compares THEIR 5 AMAZING versions!
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- Опубликовано: 2 дек 2018
- Johan Lundgren of Lundgren Guitar Pickups plays five of their killer PAF Humbucker versions and compares them to a 1968 Gibson Patent Sticker, Patent Number pickup. The pickups are:
Heaven 57
Heaven 67
Heaven 77
Smooth Operator
Lundgren Prototype with unmatched coils.
Johan is playing through a mid 1970s Fender Twin Reverb with a Greenback and a Vintage 30 (close miked) speaker. The guitar is one of Johan's Custom guitars for quick change of pickups (250k pots) 
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Thank you all for comments. And thank you Johan Segeborn.
That’s the way to demo pick ups , clean first ! Good sounding pick ups. Impressed.
Thanks Paul! Glad to hear it
Thank you. Really fun to hear these kind words. Johan Segeborn knows his stuff.
Rebel - Rebel !!!
I really dig small independent companies that pick a fight against the establishment .
For those about to rock - we salute you !!!
Cheers Gary!
We salute You!
Riff 1/4:
1:17 Gibson 1968 Patent Sticker
1:29 Lundgren Heaven 57
1:39 Lundgren Heaven 67
1:52 Lundgren Smooth Operator
2:05 Lundgren Prototype Unmatched Coils
Riff 2/4:
2:20 Gibson 1968 Patent Sticker
2:30 Lundgren Heaven 57
2:39 Lundgren Heaven 67
2:49 Lundgren Heaven 77
2:58 Lundgren Smooth Operator
3:09 Lundgren Prototype Unmatched Coils
Riff 3/4:
3:19 Gibson 1968 Patent Sticker
3:33 Lundgren Heaven 57
3:47 Lundgren Heaven 67
4:03 Lundgren Heaven 77
4:23 Lundgren Smooth Operator
4:38 Lundgren Prototype Unmatched Coils
Riff 4/4:
4:54 Gibson 1968 Patent Sticker
5:00 Lundgren Heaven 57
5:04 Lundgren Heaven 67
5:10 Lundgren Heaven 77
5:15 Lundgren Smooth Operator
5:21 Lundgren Prototype Unmatched Coils
Bonus riff 5/4:
5:26 Lundgren Heaven 67
Thanks Richard! I really appreciate that!
Thank you Richard. Very kind of you. Thank you for your great job!
Hey Johan, I watched so many of your videos, I think you are doing the best comparing videos of all the channels I know. Even as a jazz guy I can use your videos and I recommend them to my students. Thanks man!
Thanks Wolfgang, I’m so glad to hear that! Cheers Johan
Johan Segeborn videos are really interesting and exciting. We are impressed! Many of the topics that never have been filmed before. And some will never again... It is easy to get really stuck in the moment watching his videos.
I love this man. Once he started playing bowie there was no dispute.
Cheers! :-)
Nothing wrong with good taste. :-D
This is amazing my friend, love lundgren pickups.
Johan, they all sound great! Many applications here, covers all needs for the PAF sound one might be looking for. 👍
Thanks Steve!
Johan and Johans says double thank you!
Just what I've been waiting for👊🤟👏
Glad to hear it! \m/ :-)
That was so good to hear. Have a great evening!
I am totally blown away by these superb Pickups!
Mr Lundgren is a character, he looks like he's having a great time. You can tell he has a real passion for guitar. The Heaven 67 was definitely my fav, but man they all really sing! It's probably not super likely, but it would be great to see him on more videos
Great video! And great sounding pickups! 🙂
Thanks Jens, I’m glad to hear that!
Thank you. We love what we do and always try to do our best. And a little bit more.
@@lundgrenguitarpickups2661 The pickups do sound a lot like my '69 Gibson pickups that is very clear!
@@JensLarsen Thank you. Oh Yes. I guess our Heaven 67 is very close to that. In our 25,5 Inch testguitar the Bridge Humbucker comes a bit closer to the bridge compared to a standard SG or Les Paul. As you know this make a huge impact on tone. Brighter and less output.
@@lundgrenguitarpickups2661 Well actually I find my 69 humbuckers quite bright as well. They are in a 335. I was pretty surprised at that when I got it.
I had a 68 sticker PAF I bought about 13 years ago. Great pup!
Heaven 67❕
wow.... Interesting video Johan....thanks one more time
I think you just found a rhythm guitarist johan,great vid thanks once again:)
Thanks Shawn! :-)
Makes me like lundgren even more. You’re the man Johan!
Nice, but it would have been cool to see how his quick-pickup-change guitar works.
We actually filmed that too so I can include it in some coming clip. Its a brilliant solution. Like his pickups :-)
Dan Armstrong comes to mind?!
Thanx. We would love to show more of our quick-pickup-change guitar in the future. We had it since 2004. Wish it would have been 1994. But better late than....
Been checking the time change on the clock and wondering about that actually. Clearly the guitar has been routed from the top so the pickups can just slide in, no string change needed. I am assuming there is some sort of a quick-connect solution for the wiring. Can't wait for the unraveling video. Like this Lundgren chap. Enjoys what he is doing. Nice.
Yea, looks like a perfect solution. I'd be interested in seeing the pickup changes, too.
Thanx....great demo of mr Lundgrens pups...I use his pups on my LP’s when the originals doesn’t ”match” the guitar it self...even vintage ones...
I can’t wait for Johan to test those on his LP’s with a cranked Marshall!!!
He really does great tests!!!
Thanx Johan!!
Thanks Ola! That will come up pretty soon! :-)
That sounds like a really good idea. He sure does!
What a lovely guy. I have one of his M7 in my Schecter Banshee and it's great, really nice to see where it comes from.
The quick-pickup-change guitar is brilliant!
its gibsons idea
@@ayylmao5121 It's not like there are 10 ways to do it. It makes the most sense.
Dan Armstrong/AMPEG!!
Yes it is brilliant. The idea comes from guitar and pickup builder Johnny Mörch. We helped each other during the years. He gave this idea to me. I gave him some others ideas. Win-Win.
Gibson 68 and Heaven 77 were my favs, but all sounded great to me. Nice!
I’ve got the Heaven 77! Great 👍
Long time no see, Johan!
Yeah too long my friend!
A good choice. Thank you. Very fun to hear.
Magnificent pickups - Mr. Lundgren truly is a top bloke! 👌🏻🐺
Great video Johan and Johan! Thank you both! Great pickups indeed and a great way to swap them out. I borrowed a T.V jones Classic Plus from a Gretsch Power Jet and tried it in a strat, mounted really precisely (I was surprised how well I fitted it lol) The Power Jet is sort of a chambered LP type guitar very cool. Well, the pickup sounded darker in the Strat. Not sure if this info is of any use! Rock!
Thanks Steve! The brightness very much depends on how close to the bridge the pickup is mounted in different guitars. Cheers!
@@JohanSegeborn thanks johan 😎 wise words indeed man.
Great vid idea. I thought the 67 was hot, then he played the 77, wow! Stayed for the 3:58 LOL. Thank you Johans - cheers!
Thanks Chris! Cheers :-)
Nice to hear. You make us all glad.
I have been trying to contact through lundgrens website with no response at all. I want to purchase a set of m7c and also see if they can tell me if my luthier installed my black heaven zebras incorrectly. I think he got one upside down. Any help here?
All of them sounds great but i think i like the 67 and 77. Great job both of you!!
Thanks, glad to hear it! :-)
Thank you. You make both Johan and Johan glad.
That's what i call real demo - let the pickups speak for themselves. No marketing bullshit or whatsoever.
Kudos to both Johans.
Thanks man, glad to hear it, that’s how I like it too!
"For those about to ROCK" is the definitive test riff...guitars and amps that can't AC/DC are warranty refundable.
Makes me feel...... Young.
Lovely chime on the the heaven 57 on the driven tone, although the 67 sounded the nicest clean
Thanks, that’s my favorite too
Interesting.
X2n was another I had back in the 80's
I liked it for a ceramic pu.
Had a Bill Lawrence
L 500 once I loved how it sang full on.
I've got a Bill Lawrence l500 from 83-84 and you can really boost the heck out of them ! They are very clean but loud as f!?k! Cheers to all!🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺
Very nice sounding pickups! Having really hard time deciding between the 57's and the 67' which I like the best. Are these wax potted?
Thanks! No none of these are wax potted.
The prototype sounded really nice!
For me, it was a toss up between the 57 and 67. The 67 seemed to have a bit more grit? I'd probably choose that one but it would be a tough call.
I need to check out these pickups! They sound amazing.
57 and 67 really stood out to me but something about the 67 made it my favorite.
Lundgren is one of the best brands out there but because they don't do much "marketing" you'll only hear about them from pro's when asking advice. Also, I guess its an age thing but from comments seems people focus too much on the freq. response and not enough to the dynamics of a PAF pickup.
Mertay, thank you. Well spoken. This is our life and we are glad to hear this from you. It means a lot.
Very good sound
Thanks Robbie!
Thank you. You also must have good ears.
To me the heaven 57 sounds best, and as usual after a video by Johan i just got to PICKUP my guitar and play
That’s so good to hear! Cheers
You are to kind. Thanx. Heaven 57 is a favorite of mine as well. One of them.... It's been with us a loooong time.
Interesting differences. On Riff 1, the pickups sounded so similar that I thought it would be difficult to tell them apart: but as soon as Johan started to play chordal riffs the differences became much more apparent. I don't know anything about the pickups' construction, but broadly it sounded as though the first three were in order of increasing gain; then the Smooth Operator more mid-forward and with less prominent treble. The prototype was different again - clearer and more open, but less beefy.
If I had to choose, it would be the 57s or 67s - certainly for classic rock.
Thanks Paul, Those were my pick too
I have the Heaven 57,and Smooth Operator. I've also have the Sucker Bucker which is more powerful pickup, but I love it. In this video I just love the 77.
Tommy. You have a lot of Lundgren's. Glad you like the Heaven 77 as well.
Really liked the prototype pickup, to me it sounded the most like the Gibson PAF. I'm gonna have to learn that last riff! For those about to rock... FIRE!
Thanks Dean!
Two likeminded guitar tone researchers - with matching first names. Funny coincidence gentlemen 😂
Really dig the sound of Mr. Lundgren's PUs. I was wondering which was your (I mean both of you) personal favourite. Mr. Lundgren's unexpected jam @ 0:48 was really the icing on the cake - had me ROTFL 😂🤣😂 Cheers for the video, JOHANS 👍
My favorite is the 67. Cheers! :-)
The phone was ringing, what shoud I do? It went out quite well. :-D. My favorite is the Heaven 57
Dear Johans, thank you so very much for your kind replies, both of you 🤘 I really appreciate it and totally made my day 🙂
@@jojimbousagi5903 Thank you. It is very nice to discuss with you all!
They all sound like really nice P/U's. I prefer the "Smooth Operator" set, cuz they sound more smooth... Enjoyed this, Peace.
Thanks for great pickup demo. I would choose heaven 67 ,No doubt..
Thanks Keke! My fav too
2 Johan's for the price of one!! Mr. Lundgren's pickups sound amazingly similar to what he was trying to replicate. I'd love to hear his opinion on the Fishman Fluance with the changeable voicings compared to his superb pickups (I don't have any Fluance pickups and I am not in the market right now for any, but would love to hear his thoughts on that type of technology). Great video as always Tone Meister Segeborn! :-)
Thanks my friend! Mr. Lundgren said that he was gonna try and answer any questions here later tonight.
@@JohanSegeborn awesome! Both of you guys would be so much fun to hang out with and talk guitars and tone. I'll keep an eye out for his reply 😎🎸👍
Thank you for your very nice comments. Funny as well. I am sorry I was not able to not answer yesterday night. A great moviemaker Mr. Segeborn. And great audience! I can not tell my opinion on the Fluance pickups. i have not tried them. Sorry. I would love to help.
@@lundgrenguitarpickups2661 thanks for the follow up! Keep up the great work 👍
@@jcoulter43 Thank YOU!
I like 57 and 67, different flavors of the same thing, depending on how clean you want it to sound, would be how I would choose one guitar equipped with each.
These were my pick too, I actually bought those two to put in my R9 and SG
I imagine a 67 in the bridge and the 57 in the neck would be a great combination.
For me heaven 57 would love to hear Johan play these over a loud plexi.
That will come up really soon! :-)
We would love that as well. We might try that with our Gibson 24,75 scale with 500K pots then.
That was good fun
Like the 67s
I really like the mid bark of the 67
What is patent sticker? Love this sound, how much are those?
Patent numbers are the pickups used by Gibson after the PAFs. Patent stickers refers to the black sticker that Gibson used in the 60s. Later patent number pickups had a stamp instead. Those are probably about $1000
Johan Segeborn sad. :’(
I have a hard time with any guitar demos, unless the guitarist has great guitar hands. It's all in the hands 🤘
Nice. Personally the 57 was my overall favorite.
heaven 77 is my jam! nice finally I got to see how's mr Lundgren looks like LOL
Thank you. Didn't scared you?
@@lundgrenguitarpickups2661 Not me Sir, I only scare myself!
Dear Mr. Lundgren, is the 'Heaven 77' available in 'Fender' string spacing?
@@clemguitar63 Haha, Glad to hear that. Yes, we can make it in wide spacing.
@@lundgrenguitarpickups2661 I thought as much. I just wanted to verify and figured why not ask the MAN himself!
Sir, Thank you kindly for the response!
@@clemguitar63 Thank YOU!
Would be nice to see a Lundgren VS VanDamme pickup shoot-out.
The Heaven 57, and Smooth Operator are the two I'd be torn between it they were available here in the US.
Thank you. They are. Check out Axe Palace or Conklin
Which paf is close to the TedNugent sound?
Original " Patent Applied For" Gibson Humbuckers and a vintage Gibson Byrdland for the feedback would be a good start, if you can afford it.
Then you have to play like Ted Nugent .
The two secret ingredients to the Ted Nugent are shitting your pants and underage girls
The Heaven 67 for me all day. Now we need to see these at dimed output from a Plexi... Something tells me this is coming...
I liked the duncan JB but never owned one.
The Heaven 67s were my favorite.
Thanks Patrick, mine too
I love this as well. But my favorite is Heaven 57.
Heaven 57 is the most versatile by far. Other pickups had their standout riffs.
Genius
You are. And some other Johan might be.....
Hi, Johan!
Very nice p.u., with some reminds me of Seymor Dunkan and Am.St. Fender. Is it expensive? Maybe mr. Lundgren has prices online? Can be not bad for my supetstrat. Google will find it? Very interesting! If I can bay them by internet, its can be awesome!
Zigfrid
Thanks Zigfrid! You van find more info on Lundgren Guitar Pickups web site.
lundgren.se
Around the regular boutique pickup prize range.
@@onpsxmember Greatest thanks!!
All very good, depending on the riff... but if I had to pick one: Heaven 67 for me!
Johan Segeborn
please get him to demo
the stratocaster pickups
Yeah I’d love that! I’m gonna ask him. Cheers
That classic PAF sound is one of a kind. Bright, punchy and aggressive with great clarity. I have the Seymour Duncan 59 humbucker in the bridge of my guitar. The JB and 59 have always been my favorite. Good video !
Thanks!
@@JohanSegeborn Thank you!
didn't expect this, but the 68 original PAF is the best sounding, and the most versatile
It is the fine thing. There is always something for everyone.
5:26 - ......YYYYYES!!!!!!!
Great vid Johan I have to say that the heaven 67' to me was the clear choice as far as versatility - well suited for many styles I believe
Thanks Stepvan, I preferred that one too! Cheers!
What amp? And a PAF in a Strat... Didn`t sound anything like the «PAF-sound» I would expect, and have heard in your videoes before...
It’s a mid 70s Fender Twin with V30 and Greenback RI.
:41 That singing was fuckin hilarious!!! xD *applauds* Bravo! On a sidenote, people need to quit leaving their tuners on the headstocks of their guitars when demoing sounds, cause it can fuck with the tone quite alot. In any case, these pickups sound astounding
The Heaven 57 has plenty of presence that I like,
Thank you. It sure has. Glad to hear that.
Whatever the construction and wind is, to my ears the 'Heaven 77' is closest to the pat. no
My mothers maiden name is Lundgren so they must be good. Thank you John
Cheers Michael! ;-)
Thank you. Was is her first name?
no my mothers family are Lundgrens we are in Boston new England area. cheers!
@@michaeldiamond76 Nice. Cheers!
2 JOHANS!! The prophets foretold of this day and it has come!! lol!! Pickups sound great!!
Heaven 67 for the win.
67's get my vote
best pickup comparision I have ever seen
Thanks Carlos, I’m so glad to hear that!
That was huge. Thank you. Mr Segeborn knows how to do it. We will lift our hat as well. Thanks.
Swedish chef!
I'd have a hard time giving up my Lollar's for anything else, with all due respect.
The 68 sounds the most vintage and like an original
The 68 is actually an original. We used it as the reference pickup. It’s at least 5 times more expensive than these pickups.
I didn't like the fuzzy buzzing bee amp guitar tone. Too bad, because it seems like the pickups really rock!
They rock indeed! We’re gonna try Rhen with other amps too later on here on the channel
@@JohanSegeborn If they sound as good as they seem, they will bring in the big bucks! I would LOVE to hear these bad boys on a Super Lead :D
Or any other plexi!
this dude is cracking me up it's like he's never been in front of a camera before, he's mugging like crazy.
Did he bang his head on the guitar. Great move. Have a good day. it's Monday again already.
Have a great week!
Yeah, time runing fast! Every day is higher, then previous. Understand you. But not bad for pickup! S.D. can be sometimes not so good. Custom made p.u. are allways interesting. Maybe I will take his humbuckers. I want to bay SG.
If time keeps moving this fast it won't be long for me. LOL and if I hit my head like that I would have a headache for a week. LOL you definitely need an SG everybody needs at least one.
@@guitarocd9984 You are right!:-) I was working hard last time. So I think, I can "ask Santa" to give me something for my soul!:-) After all, I was realy working hard. Even if I did it with "Martin" and with a lot of people, still that was my work.
Zig in one of your videos you're in a guitar shop is that your hometown? I can't read that. LOL
Heaven 77 is more balanced and full sounding. Heaven 57 and 67 are bright and Smooth Operator is a little like playing under a blanket. Heaven 77 is closer to the Gibson humbucker. Cheers!
Cheers George!
That was a good review. Cheers.
Thank you!@@lundgrenguitarpickups2661
There is not just one PAF sound! There are 5 almost indistinguishable variations that would sound completely the same in any sort of mix!
(I'm teasing, the pickups sound nice but listen to this without watching the changes and it sounds more like a change in picking intensity than anything else)
I hear a difference in the 77 and in the two after but the 57/67 sound the same to me
They ARE subtle!
Thank you. I agree that some of the changes sometimes are subtle. Glad for your comments.
They WERE different Jon, but fairly subtle.
I don't know if it's the amp he's playing through, but none of these sound like humbuckers to me at all, and certainly not anything like a PAF-style pickup. Each one has a distinguishable tone, but they sound thin, uninteresting and lifeless. And not in a "PAFs can sound like a fat single coil" kind of way at all. I'd like to hear these pickups through a different amp, but I'm sorry to say, nothing from this demo impresses me in the least.
PAFs with mismatched coils are closer to single coils in tone. Never heard that before?
We would love to show these pickups through another amp as well next time. Are you listening through headphones or speakers?
@@JohanSegeborn Yes, I have heard of this. Original PAFs can sound like fat single coils. Very much so. Which is why I said, "and not in a "PAFs can sound like a fat single coil' kind of way" in my initial comment. I was saying that in this recording, the humbuckers played here sound thin and anemic and not in the way that original PAFs can sound like fat single coils.
I'll very much give the benefit of the doubt that the sound of these humbuckers could very well be due to the amp used and perhaps different recording gear(?). I can imagine that your entire normal recording setup was not used in his shop for this demonstration, which probably didn't help. I am sure these humbuckers are capable of sounding better than they did in this video, but in this specific recording, my opinion still stands. I don't like what I hear.
With that said, I would love to hear them in a guitar played through one of your Marshalls and with your regular recording gear at home. Also, if they are really good PAF replicas, you should play them against one of the original PAF Les Pauls you have played in past videos.
My comments are not necessarily directed toward you or the quality of this gentleman's pickups, but again, in this specific recording, I just don't think they sound their best. I'd love to hear them in your own setup where we know how things usually sound in your videos. Peace and goodwill. Cheers.
@@lundgrenguitarpickups2661 I am listening through my Sennheiser HD 650 headphones and an external DAC. I also listened through my Adam Audio studio monitors and the same DAC. I am getting an excellent sound. I'm sorry to say, but I just don't like what I hear. However, that's not to say your pickups are bad. I'd love to hear them through another amp too. Perhaps you can lend Johan a few sets for him to play through his amplifiers and recording setup at home, so we can get a good idea of what they sound like. We all know what his rig sounds like, so it will be a much better comparison. I just don't think the amp and recording gear used in this video was ideal (I can't imagine Johan brought all the same equipment from home with him for this demonstration). I think another video would be great so we can hear what they sound like with a different amp and recording setup. Thanks and take care. Peace and good will. Cheers. :)
@@Eywadude Thank you. Glad to hear that you are listening to real stuff. We really like your feedback! You have some good ideas for sure. We are acutally do something like that in the (near) future. Johan S. bought a Heaven 57 Brigde PU and a Heaven 67 Bridge PU for his own guitars. He wants to have rawnickel cover on those. We use finest Nickelsilver. It will be a more fair comparison with Johan S. Rig- I agree with you. Thank you for the good idea. Another thing I want to share with you is that our Long scaled 25,5# guitar is made in alder and with Nitro. And the Bridge Humbucker comes a bit closer to the bridge compared to a standard SG or Les Paul. As you know this make a huge impact on tone. Brighter and less output.
Gibson 68 sticker
You are my Swedish meatball let's go drink a beer end talk about tone
Sounds like an idea. if you do not call me meatball :-D
I can't get over the fender body with humbuckers....all I hear is fender.....not PAFs.
Mr. Lundgren has Les Paul quick change test guitars too, but there weren’t available for this session unfortunately. I will do many more videos with these pickups though, so you can hear how close the are to the holy grail! :-)
Yes, it is quite a challenge. It is a different thing of course. Next time we will eventually use our Gibson pickup-change-Guitar with 500K pots. But most of the customers actually prefer this longscale "strat" style.
Those crooked glasses are bothering me so badly.
Me too. they got real beat up my glasses last week when I was giggin. But sure worth it. I will get new ones.
@@lundgrenguitarpickups2661 That is just proof you know how to rock.
this guy looks so mean as he plays
Complete waste of time. Why play paf in a strat style guitar....useless to 90% viewers.
Oh no, did we waste your time, aasou? I feel terrible
it is brave right? Next time we will put the pickups in our Gibson Test guitar. Surprisingly most of the guitarshow visitors uses this long scale mostly.
They sound harsh and cold. Moreover they are too expensive. Maybe they are made with "love" but they don't worth the price!