I saw Ruby Gillman: Teenage Kraken when no one else would...
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There will be more people who saw this comment than people who saw the movie.
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Yeah probably
Wow
I saw it!
Why is it rarely both?
I’m honestly really sad and disappointed that this movie ended up failing. Ever since DreamWorks made Puss In Boots 2, everyone has now given them the expectation of creating masterpieces when that’s not what DW is in the first place. They’re hit or miss, meaning they can make good movies while sometimes making the bad ones. I still wanna see this movie but I hope that it will at least make me feel entertained.
Honestly even though I’m a big Dreamworks fan, I agree with you. Whenever there’s a miss like Shark Tale, Shrek 3, Teenage Kraken, Turbo, Monster VS Aliens, there are also hits like the rest of the Shrek films, HTTYD trilogy, The Madagascar and Penguin movies, the Puss In Boots movies, The Kung Fu Panda trilogy, Megamind, the 2D movies and more.
@@stasing_0718don't forget some of those movies you mention half end up with TV series so there is a possibility that Ruby Gilman can end up with one as well
And don’t forget we’re still getting Trolls 3. At least they’re just embracing the weirdness of that series
@@slashingkatie7872 I just saw the trailer for that one and I'm not exactly excited for it I'm willing to give it chance and I did like the other two
That’s true. Dreamworks has always been hit or miss. However their hits are so good that it can make us forgive for their misses.
I still admire Dreamworks for still going experimental and trying new things and not doing only sequels.
Last year we had an original project (The Bad Guys), then a sequel (Puss in Boots 2). This year we have Ruby Gillman (Original) and Trolls 3 (Sequel). Next year we will have Orion and the Dark (Original), then Kung Fu Panda 4 (Sequel).
The temptation to make the AU where Ruby and Chelsea actually become friends and Chelsea rebels against her mom's wishes is real.
Fuck it, maybe I'll make them kiss, you can't stop me
Do it
Yeah I want to do that too because like, the lies she said about living a miserable life due to a war that she never wanted, her mother did, was so much more interesting than her just being evil with no motive. It should have been the truth. Chelsea and Nerissa should have been two separate characters.
Chelsea and Nerissa were originally 2 separate characters, with Ruby's mom having killed Nerissa and Chelsea wanting revenge. But that got changed most likely since it would make Chelsea's actions justifiable and would make Ruby's mom a killer (even though they were at war). It's a shame that part of the plot was changed since it added both depth and motivation to Chelsea's character.
Ikr????
@@shadowbeast9671 Remember how those writers were trying to make Tai Lung from Kung Fu Panda as Unsympathetic as possible? Well, they pretty much failed at that.
@@jmachero5852 Oh yeah, most definitely. If anything Oogway was the real antagonist. He knew that Tai Lung was becoming corrupt and did nothing to humble him. Not even informing or guiding Shifu. I guess he knew he'd get his panda ans was willing to make the sacrifice for it.
Ths film flopping was kind of inevitable. Not only wasn't the first teaser released until three months before it hit theaters, but they spoiled the big twist villain reveal, and almost everything else in said teaser. That, and the film itself was only okay in my opinion, and pretty lackluster compared to the masterpiece that came before. Plus, it was the 5th animated film we got in a single month.
I wish filmmakers strive to tell marketing teams to stop spoiling the entire films in trailers so that audiences experience the film.
That’s why I avoided Watching trailers They Literally Put Some of the ending In it
Yep I can't agree more
Facts my dude, facts.
Sad fact: There were a lot of deleted sense that would have made the movie better like Chelsea was gonna be a tragic villain who wants to avenge her mother (the mermaid queen) and ruby saves a small octopus and other small sea creatures who were crying out for help and her friends saved her from being caught.
What if Ruby Gullman gets a sequel and gets a glow up like Puss in Boots? I wonder what that would look like.
If Puss in Boots and other movies can redeem their past mistakes with a sequel, so can Ruby Gillman
If you can take a DISASTROUS teen horror flick like Ouija and come with a miracle like Ouija - Origin of Evil, then you sure can turn this kraken bomb into something worth of attention.
@@kronk2.094 I wouldn’t say the movie itself was disastrous, but the marketing? Sure, maybe it was.
Countless box office failures have become huge successes, be it through later earnings on streaming services or sequels. Besides, it’s only the movie’s first week, so give it a chance to pick up its feet and I’m sure it will turn things around.
@@hiveemperor54 I want that to happen so bad
Sooo here's my unprofessional, probably dumb ressurection of the plot, return to the storyboards, when Chelsea and Nerissa were separate characters: Chelsea(the mermaid we see in the movie) is not actually Nerissa but a pretender. The real Nerissa is her mother(imagine a narcissistic abusive, manipulative parent) and she sent her out as a sacrificial lamb, while manipulating her into believing this was for the good of mermaids. Nerissa, her own mother sends her out expecting her to die literally sacrificing her own daughter, so that the Krakens remain in a false sense of security about her true fate. While in the cage, Chelsea awaits for her mother to rescue her... but nobody came. She has now truly lost everything, her own mother letting her to rot, and to further let things go sour, she has to answer for her mother's crimes. And she is left in the cage without a family and without her fame and reputation... now she has nothing, and Ruby has everything she ever wanted. So here I imagine it can go 2 ways, either Chelsea goes full vengeful out of envy and hatred, blaming the krakens for her situation, or she redeems herself, and becomes better. A professional writer could probably make this work
I think the biggest issue with this movie is the twist villain scene. Chelsea being a twist villain does not make any sense. There was no real reason for her to not only be Nerissa, but a Twist villain. There were deleted scenes that had Chelsea being Nerissa’s daughter who wanted to avenge her mother, which kind of would’ve made a better twist villain, but the twist still feels forced. Maybe go along with your version of the story, and maybe have Nerissa force Chelsea to touch the trident and she turns evil from the power of the trident. Eventually during the climax, ruby would get Chelsea to snap out of it. Then Ruby and Chelsea can give a speech to the krakens and mermaids that they don’t have to fight anymore and the war should stop. The mermaids and Krakens could agree to stop, but Nerissa still doesn’t want to stop, so Ruby, Chelsea, and the other mermaids and krakens could stop Nerissa and take the trident from her. Then Captain Gordon can lock her up.
Also I think this movie could have also worked as a musical. (I know DreamWorks is in general not the musical kind but heyyyyy) Mabey have Ruby sing a few songs, have Chelsea sing a few songs, maybe have the villain sing a song, but here is something that I thought would really work. Why not have the movie open with Ruby’s mom singing a heart touching sad song about how she misses her home and her family. And we get a sad flashback of when she had a terrible argument with her mom and left. The would be really emotionally opening
😭 🥹 and you would actually make this movie great. Oh wait, the would make the kids sad, and we can’t have kids crying can’t we DreamWorks? 🙄
From what I’ve seen everyone unanimously agrees that the main problem was the marketing revealing almost everything
If there’s one problem I had with this movie, it’s (WARNING: SPOILERS! Though it’s a spoiler you guys probably already knew)
The fact that they made Chelsea a twist villain when they literally SHOWED the fact that she was evil IN THE TRAILER! Say what you want about Disney’s twist villains, not even their respective trailers spoiled their betrayals! (Except maybe Hans, but that was moreso an obvious hint than actually telling us)
that's even worse when every single marketing promo was basically: "OMG GUYS, MERMAIDS ARE LIKE SUPER EVIL!11!1!" and some *litterally show the very scene where Chelsea betrays Ruby*
I haven’t seen this movie and I had this spoiled through an official Instagram ad lol
7:52 I mean, there was nothing wrong with a straight romance between Ember & Wade anyways. As I see it more as an interracial relationship allegory. Like how back in the older times it was consider taboo for people of different race, culture & ethnicities to date, marry or let alone fall in love with each other as society in those times won't allow it.
Besides, the Mermaids barely got any backstory and there were so many other sea monsters that we didn’t see enough of.
The director has apparently expressed an interest in continuing the franchise. If they actually go through with it, which seems relatively likely, I’m sure they’ll greatly improve the marketing and explore the things they didn’t explore in this one.
God I hope they fix the main villain if there's a follow up
@@scoutfan911 Nerissa wasn’t that bad. Sure, they spoiled her being the twist villain and sure, she’s a little generic, but like I said, if Puss in Boots can redeem itself this well, I believe Ruby Gillman will greatly make up for its shortcomings with a sequel
A Krakens vs Mermaids movie would be something.
@@bighand1530 Kirk DeMicco did state that he wanted to explore the Mermaids more in a future movie
Also people are saying the movie’s a failure, but this is only the first week. Puss in Boots: The Last Wish experienced something very similar before it became a success. I believe that, with a few more weeks, Ruby Gillman could become another masterpiece.
@hiveemperor5489 she was straight up boring, she was bland af, they didn't even bother giving her an actual villain motivation, she has 0 suspense and tension, and worst of all, is a twist villain for the sake of it, and she has no previous evil deeds we see, atp just make the current "Nerissa" aka Chelsea be Nerissa's daughter, taking on her identity as a decoy, while the real Nerissa is still out there searching for a bigger weapon, or uniting the underwater against the krakens. Chelsea and Nerissa were originally diferent characters but God knows why they were merged
When Puss In Boots - The Last Wish came out, and everybody started calling it a "masterpiece" and saying Dreamworks had finally outsmarted Disney, they appeared to be forgetting:
1 - Back when it produced actual masterpieces (The Prince of Egypt, as an example)
2 - The fact that its last movies before this and The Bad Guys (kind of wasted, in my opinion, but still technically more relevant) were Spirit's remake and Boss Baby 2
3 - How much of a "hit or miss" it will always be as a company.
All of this to say... I still gotta see this movie, but I wasn't surprised in the slightest when, after trailers started popping out, it looked much less inspired than Puss in Boots - The Last Wish.
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!
@@thadmaster7whatever
Yeah your right, regarding that, what is your personal opinion of Spirit The Stalion of the West. I feel like this movie doesn’t get talked a lot although how good it is in some aspects (without the stupid narrator, like kids are smart enough to understand the protagonists motivation and emotions by just seeing it).
@@krystalsitton5857 it's been kind of too long since the last time I saw it (back then, I was like 11/12). I remember I found it kinda dull, but maybe I'll see it again, and find out it's a legit masterpiece...
You Forgot "Home". I don't blame you - with a title LIKE THAT, You're DOOMED to be more forgettable. Even more than this deserves to be, as well.
I can understand why Schaffrillas Productions isn't talking about this
My daughter liked it. Ruby Gillman that is. But yeah they really dropped the ball on Chelsea. She could’ve wanted revenge for the death or her mom or had a change of heart after the battle or something
I really wish we got in the backstory for this character like how did the war between the Kraken and the mermaid begin? How did Narissa survive the onslaught after she was defeated? Also, I would love to explore more of the Friendship between Chelsea and Ruby Also want to explore How Agatha Became the Kraken champion!
This movie felt like it was trying to be Luca and Turning Red, but with none of the sincerity either of those movies had.
It also has the plot of little mermaid 2
@@AncientshipI'm not the only one who thought of this! Ruby Gillman is what you get if you combined The Little Mermaid 2: Return to the Sea, Luca and Turning Red except the person doing the combining was DreamWorks themselves.
Seems to me like everyone whose reviewed this movie all agreed this film shouldve been about the war between the krakens and the mermaids, and the effect it has on the friendship between the two girls rather then what we got.
And i agree.
Like there’s a good movie buried here somewhere.
Like for example, maybe the grandmother is indeed racist against the mermaids, she's fully into this war against them, deeming them as pure evil beings. But Ruby's mother ran and took her family with her, not wanting them to be hurt or in danger, especially given how her mother has been throughout this conflict with the mermaids.
Maybe Chelsea is Narissa's daughter. Narissa, unlike Ruby's mom, is committed to this war because her own mother died in it. She wants Chelsea to feel the same, reminding her of what those krakens took from them.
Maybe sending Chelsea to use and trick ruby after discovering where her family has been hiding out, hoping to gain a way to win the war and defeat the krakens once and for all.
But Chelsea and Ruby form a genuine relationship over the film ( platonic/ romantic?) And Chelsea no longer feels comfortable with the fact she is supposed to betray her.
But something goes wrong, narissa and the grandmother's war escalates, ruby feels betrayed that she just got in touch with this side of her family and feels she ruined everything and its all her fault for trusting Chelsea.
But the girls make up and find a way to end the conflict between both sides so they can come to a peaceful resolution with each other and understand the other side aren’t monsters.
Would it be a completely original movie? No
But it could still be good, even despite that.
And unfortunately, they just didnt play well into its strengths regarding its story.
Bad marketing sucks, but a film can still be great regardless, this one just missed the mark in both and i feel bad that its probably gonna be forgotten in a month.
I hope Ruby gillman ends up getting a TV show that has its own story that's similar to yours because this movie has so much potential but they just had to waste it and giving it a sequel won't fix the first movie problem at all.
@@reymiramos9152I think it’s safe to say a sequel will never happen now.
It failed badly at the box office, and looks like it’ll be a $80 million loss.
No studio will want to risk losing even more money after losing
Really sad when you think about the animators, they tried really hard and so many of them mentioned that the movie was fun to animate.
Unfortunately, marketing and writing had to set back this movie. Even a few animators at DreamWorks complained about the trailers.
Yeah Chelses water hair in her finale form was really fantastic to look at
That’s a shame. I think the animators did a great job.
You could have had a story similar to The Fox and The Hound...
Two characters who become the most unlikeliest of friends, possibly more, only to learn they're meant to be eternal rivals.
So, do they stick with their guns despite what their families and history dictate? Or do they buckle and have no choice but to fight?
In my opinion, that would have been a better story 🤷♂️
Fun Fact: TFATH was the last animated film without closing credits, Condorman was the last live-action film without closing credits, that's seriously the only thing people remember about it today.
I hope this movie gets a TV show that has your story and they went with having Ruby and Chelsea be in a romantic relationship and that would also help unite the krakens and mermaids a lot more when they see that love between the two species can exist for making a better future.
Another thing that bothered me was how Nerissa didn't have a lot of mermaid powers like the krakens. Almost like she was doomed to fail from the start, like how tf did she fight against the krakens if they have laser eyes, super speed, body armor, and ect? That's pretty op and Mary suish. And Nerissa shouldn't have been the Queen of the mermaids just like that. It would've worked better if she was the daughter of the mermaid Queen and wanted to get revenge for her fallen mother.
The problem with this movie was Ruby's transition to become a kraken was a little dragging, when it could have used the time to foster her relationship with her friends, her crush, and even Chelsea.
The "call an ambulance, but not for me" meme with Disney and Nimona is just FANTASTIC!!
I feel like there were more people who saw this video than people who saw the actual movie
dreamworks ruby gillman was supposed to jabbed on the little mermaid remake and trying to compete but both films where a bit mix or tied by default.
i mean to be fair i do like the remake of little mermaid at first but i am a bit of a mix and then ruby gillman. i don't even know. i am still in the mix as well but regardless.
You can tell they wanted to sabotage this film not just for the lack of advertising, but with the digital release literally being two weeks after its theatrical release. There was literally no point in putting it out on the big screen by that logic. I'm sure good word of mouth could save it but no one's really talking about it so idk where this is gonna go
To add insult to injury, there's still no merch for it! Only a artbook and even then it'll be out in October... I JUST WANT A PLUSH OF RUBY GILLMAN IN EITHER FORM, DANGIT!
If this movie will ever get a sequel, hopefully this sequel would be an improvement compared to it, since most of DreamWorks sequels are better or more magical than their previous movies.
@emptyglass7867You’re 💯 right
It was a colossal failure at the box office, and around an $80 million loss. Only made back $42 million off its $70 million budget and that’s not even including marketing & advertising.
No way any studio makes a sequel to a film that is a huge failure
So I saw this movie in theaters myself. And... yeah it's completely average. But it's cute. I think Ruby and her family are really well designs and animated. Honestly I wouldn't have minder if this movie was JUST about her and her family. Maybe years later it can get the Dreamworks sequel treatment, but who knows.
Considering that the original was buried, that's not going to happen, yet another film lost to the dustbin of history, blood simple.
People had high expectations for DreamWorks after puss in boots the last wish when thats not really dreamworks thing. Before anyone starts screaming copyright yes I got this quote from forrest gump. DreamWorks is like a box of chocolates you just never know what your gonna get. You could get masterpieces like prince of Egypt and puss and boots the last wish or garbage like boss baby and shark tale. But thats the beauty of DreamWorks. shocking the hell out of you is what DreamWorks is best at. Makes you appreciate the good stuff even more.
There's also a third option: an average forgettable kid's film. EG Mr Peabody & Sherman, Turbo, and The Penguins of Madagascar.
HOW IS ELEMENTAL A GAY ALLOGORY!?!?!? It's clearly a immigration story with a romance plot mixed it. It is also based on the creator's parents' experience.
I'm not angry, I'm just shocked.
Um in the part were ember visits Wades family he introduced her to his brother Alan and his younger sister who actually has a “girlfriend” if u can see in the movie
@CinderLumen23 I remember that scene, but it's not the focus of the film. It's cool that it's there, but in the end, it doesn't affect the main story.
Just because it's there doesn't always mean it's center stage.
They should’ve hired RaisorBlade for the movie would’ve been an interested movie to watch.
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I like how this movie references the Umi-Bozu; which is a Japanese sea monster that kinda resembles Hedorah in some depictions.
He's also been envolved in a lot of pikmin theories
And it is mentioned after the Leviathan!
Ruby is kinda Godzilla but if Godzilla was a kraken
@@finland4ever55 we already got a kraken in the Godzilla franchise Na Kika from Godzilla Dominion
@@johnnygallagher5718 The skull island anime actually introduces a kaiju actually named titanus kraken.
The one thing I actually kinda liked is that they don't give Chelsea/Nerissa a redemption arc when it could've been easy to do so. I've seen people say they wished she did have one but I have to disagree, I've personally met and seen people who act like Nerissa, where they pretend to be someone's friend, but instead treats them more like a pet or is just using them
That being said though it wasn't handled well, I agree that it would've been far more interesting if they grew to become friends and or lovers, but if they really wanted her to be a villain, I think if the movie had it where Ruby and Nerissa were friends at the start, and have it where Ruby realises how much of a toxic person Nerissa is throughout the film, I think that would've been far more interesting and could serve as a good message about its ok to cut toxic people out of your life
I agree they didn’t handle Chelsea well, but I disagree with the idea that she should’ve been a generic fill-in. The reason why is she was designed to be a mean girl they were transitioning to being a truly evil cruel, villain. The problem is bullies like mean, girls are not the same as forces of evil like maleficent, or others. Now I know that she is spoilers an adult in the story or at least a permanent teenager. The problem is for all practical purposes she is a kid the marketing showed her as a kid. We see her as a kid for most of the movie and having her become an evil kid, without showing it feels wrong. The other issue that I had was her villain it wasn’t very compelling. I would like it if she had some vendetta against the town and that she wanted to destroy it.
Also, while I agree that there are people like Chelsea in the world, who essentially treat their friends like pets or assistants, in my experience, it is not the result of evil, but rather the result of insecurity and apathy, and in some cases, even childhood trauma, which causes them to fail to understand how a real relationship and real friendship is supposed to develop, that’s just my experience. It would’ve been cool if they showed her growing as a person and they showed Ruby growing and maturing as a young lady Chelsea could learn how to relationship is supposed to be and Ruby could learn how to be actually mature and listen to her mother.
If there's a TV show, they may get a second chance to do it better
@@scoutfan911it could happen considering Many of DreamWorks movies despite how they do in the box office do have TV series
@@animezilla4486 really hope they go back to the original ideea of having chelsea and nerissa as separate characters
I am Proud to be 1 of the 0.0001% of people who saw Ruby Gillman
I remember talking to my cousin about elemental and how bad the marketing was, and on that point, i said "yeah, and have you heard of the new dreamworks movie?" he replied "there's a new dreamworks movie?"
I was just like- YEP-
like what is going on with this year and how people are marketing their films??? like its been flop after flop- what the hell is happening??
I remember in the new york airport there was a ton of posters for elementals but it felt like it was too late by that point-
Elemental ended up making a huge comeback and was overall a much more competent and heartfelt film though
Yeah I saw this coming from a mile away, I don’t think people understand that Dreamworks works very different from Disney and they have never had a renaissance ever in their history and probably never will, I feel like Disney can rest just a smidge easier now that people have stopped talking about the Dreamworks renaissance and how Disney will end soon.
okay call me crazy but Netflix animation been taking huge Ws lately. From The Sea Beast to Nimona, shit is lookin up fr
Me personally, I like Teenage Kraken. I respect people's opinions on it. If your gonna dislike it, then i won't argue. Same thing with people that like it. I'm not wanting some beef. I'm just saying what I like, ok? If you don't like it, then i respect it. If you like something that I don't, I'll still respect that decision.
4:25 Nooo, You know I can't take you seriously when you talk sarcastically like that! It's too funny
7:30 "HE'S SAYING WHAT WE'RE ALL THINKING!!!"
Yep
And the fan art for this movie proves it.
They really should have gone into the history of the war between and the mermaids. I think they should give the mermaids Hydrokinesis abilities to match the Krakens' powers. Really should have Chelsea say who she said she was and have Nerissa be a separate character and the main villain and have Grandmamah play a bit like Stoick from How to Train Your Dragons.
Ruby and Chelsea should actually become friends or maybe have them become romantically involved and have them want to end the war by destroying the trident. They get it, but Nerissa steals it and transformers causing chaos and fights the krakens. Ruby and Chelsea fight her and in the process Chelsea saves Grandmamah and this gets her to see that not all mermaids are evil. They destroy the trident and Ruby and Chelsea bring peace between the krakens and mermaids.
I saw this more out of wanting to see SOMETHING (or morbid curiosity, take your pick) and was utterly disappointed. It's Dreamworks animation at its laziest. The plot is "What if Ursula was actually the hero?" but then proceeds to do nothing with that. Like, maybe the trident was a corrupting power which is why Ruby's mother hid it (because she couldn't destroy it), and Chelsea honestly did think it could bring peace, and Ruby has to convince mom and Grandmama to destroy the staff while sparing her corrupted friend. That might have given the movie it's own reason for existing, but instead it really is just a twisted The Little Mermaid, and nothing more. It's well made, I'll give it that, but the story is trash.
Between this and the upcoming Trolls 3, it seems like Dreamworks’ success last year might’ve been a fluke.
That's what I've been trying to say
The success of Trolls was a fluke, if not for the pandemic, the second film turns out like many feared the original would, period.
@thadmaster7 The saturation will undo everything that they did, you can truly rest assured about that, just watch the carnage unfold.
I have a feeling that 2024 will be a better year for Dreamworks. Orion and the Dark sounds very interesting and Kung Fu Panda 4 sounds epic.
@onepresence9460 With the way things have gone, they surely can only truly get better from this point forward in time, it appears, period.
It was okay and it seems like merely being 'okay' is not enough to get people to come to the theaters anymore, streaming really opened up Pandora's box there. I think the only thing that will get people to watch movies the traditional way is if you make your movie a true spectacle, something that needs to be seen to be believed like Across the Spiderverse. Otherwise, people will just be like "meh, I'll wait for it on Disney +, HBO Max, Netflix, Peacock, Hulu, etc."
Just MAX
I'm so sick of writers writing stories that could've been amazing. But they take the easy way out and make it lame.
I and right behind you on this. Writers need to realize when they have gold and not let corporate executives or their egos get in the way.
Agreed
I did read somewhere though that this film had a troubled production which I guess explains why it turned out so half baked
It still stinks DreamWorks went from The Bad Guys & Puss in Boots the Last Wish to this but I still take this over The Boss Baby flims, Sprite Untamed and the Trolls 1 & 2 upcoming Trolls 3.
Exactly
Bad Guys was a surprisingly entertaining and fun film with a surprising amount of heart (especially for an original based off a book series)
And Dreamworks went even further up with the epicness that was Puss in Boots 2
But this……..
Felt like a 2000’s straight to dvd film you’d find in a Wal Mart bargain bin
Still better than the little mermaid remake.
Actually, I think the little mermaid remake was better than this. Don’t get me wrong little mermaid remake was bad, but it was still better than this.
@achinthmurali5207 this is definitely so wrong. Ain't no way the little mermaid is better
Wait, the red head was the villain? That's not even a twist!, she's a popular girl in a fucking highschool movie! I actually managed to gaslight myself into thinking that the grandmother was going to be the villain and the mermaids would just be innocent assholes, because I thought that was the most obvious twist possible. I never even imagined they'd expect us to believe that she was a good guy, it was so dumb that not even my subconscious registered it as an option.
When the movie is so predictable it becomes unpredictable
@@scoutfan911 It subverted my expectations that my expectations wouldn't be subverted.
your idea for this movie would have actually made me interested in it
I like your version of Ruby Gilman, in a additional change; what if the on the war on mermaid and krakens cause innocent kraken and mermaids to be killed in the crossfires, but also humans too. As a result it would cause humans to turn on both krakens and mermaids, but creating stories on the destruction and how they are nothing but monsters who want to eat human flesh and bone. It would be a good reason for the mom to leave her home and crown. Instead of Chelsea of being Nerissa, she was her daughter or adoptive daughter(parents was part of the casualty and Nerissa took her in)
I agree with you with the whole lesbian love story plot between Ruby and Chelsea the story would've made much more sense! 😌
This looks like Luca: Teenage High School Edition. Animation looks nice though.
Ruby Gilman is just a fun movie honestly. It's no masterpiece and it does has it's cliches but it's fun way to waste your time and relax to. It doesn't deserve to bomb
I watched this movie myself and hoped it would be good since it didn't sound like another Trolls where they were making toys to sell to little kids and making a movie second. But there was a lot I was disappointed with in this movie, like the plot twist of Chelsea, hoping that they wouldn't go down that route. But they didn't even try that idea. I also hoped this would be a better mermaid movie than The Little Mermaid (2023), where it was making fun of Disney with Chelsea. The one thing I liked is how Ruby had to show in the climax how to prove how Krakens are good when she had to fight Chelsea at the end. It made me sad that reviews weren't as good for some of Dreamwork's recent movies. Also, I did laugh at the Canadian Joke when Ruby's mom told her to say she was a Canadian when someone asked about her different look.
@@matthewdaley746 the third movie looks to be another absolute catastrophe
I can guarantee that people will realise just how good Ruby Gillman is (I loved the movie by the way) and that they’ll realise what real trash looks like.
I’ve said it multiple times, there is so much potential for this film to start a franchise and receive a massive glow up like Puss in Boots did
@@matthewdaley746 people say Ruby Gillman was mediocre, something I REALLY disagree with, but when Trolls 3 comes out, they’ll realise they were perhaps a little hasty and appreciate Ruby Gillman so much more
With the high audience score it has (81%), I’m sure it will eventually get a sequel
I believe that Trolls will be the one that gets buried like The Good Dinosaur, not Ruby Gillman
I still don't understand why people hate the Disney remake and would rather go for this...also twists, just more twisted....but basically the same story only changed mermaid-kraken...
Funny you bring up Trolls because it's like DreamWorks really sent Ruby Gillman out to die so they can get to the next Trolls movie. Which I heard. Still annoyed I can't get any merch for Ruby Gillman, and that's saying something.
I would totally love to see this movie if it was a gay love story
I thought it was pretty good. Yeah it tried too hard to be like Luca and Turning Red into the Spiderverse, but I guess I'm a sucker for animated action.
Speaking of which, glad that Turning Red didn't win the Oscar, the, "protagonists," would have absolutely been antagonists if male, led by a girl who rubbed everbody's noses in her insufferable perfectionism.
Fun fact: There was actually a deleted scene where Marissa lost her mother to Ruby's
Hearing that Disney didn't make nemona because it was "too gay" is the dumbest thing a company that wants to have a good image could say especially coming from Disney with all their controversies with Disney land and other stuff.
Exactly
Did they forget about Owl House and its LGBTQ themes ?
Or Strange World?
Ruby Gillman as a Movie could indeed have took a better direction, however it still has a place for me. Because I like Ruby as a Character, but the movie overall, it was okay and thats fine because not all movies will a home run like Puss in boots 2 or Bad Guys.
If you saw every super thing, did you see super pets?
sigh, I kind of was hoping that the trailer was lying, and the moments where Ruby and Chelsea acted like friend had me really hoping. Like yeah, villain redemption and "old generation is just racist" are also clichees done to death (the second one pretty much why I did not care for elemental) but ironicy this very movie would have benefited from these cliches. I was really hoping for the war hungry grandma to be the actual villain at the end.... and maybe Ruby getting rid of her three old friends, cause damn where they just annoying.
It's really shame cause I can see actually a lot of potential in this movie and Ruby herself was actually a fun character to watch.
I just hope the movie gets a little bit of love so we can get the perfect AU from the fan community.
Elemental was a far more competently made film though, it also made a massive comeback at the box office
For Elemental, the “old generation is racist” thing kind of got resolved at the end though
4:55 You mentioning firebreather honestly opened up a memory long forgotten, thanks 👍
This whole time I thought Ruby Gilman was the name of the person that made the movie and that the movie name was Kracken.
We gotta make a machine to see into alternative timelines…
I have said it before and i'll say it again: when you reverse the role of traditionally good guys and bad guys, be it with Sirens and Krakens, Angels and Demons, or anything really, if you JUST reverse who's good or bad and do nothing else, then it's just as one-dimensional and black and white as the original take. You need to *actually* adress changes for it to work.
Exactly!
Ninoma and Ruby Gillman Teenage Gillman!😀😍😁🤣😂
Thank you so much for all the things you said in this video. Ruby Gillman: Teenage Kraken is a 3D animated kids movie with completely full of wasted potential. It has a mediocre and generic plot with a highly obnoxious and predictable female main antagonist in the form of Chelsea Van Der Zee/Queen Nerissa who's just nothing more and nothing less than a cheap knockoff of Ariel from The Little Mermaid. I'm also so freaking glad I'm not the only one who thinks Chelsea is the worst main villain in Dreamworks history. Plus, when Chelsea transforms into her giant monster mermaid form, she looks more like a Siren than a mermaid. In fact, it would've made a lot more sense if the krakens were at war against the SIRENS instead of the mermaids. And making mermaids evil just for the sake of the plot is not only ridiculous but it's also just bad, lazy writing.
And the only two things that were actually good about this movie were the animation (except for the designs of the human characters) and how much of a relatable main protagonist Ruby Gillman was in the film.
It's also just a cheap knockoff of Turning Red meets The Little Mermaid 2 with a hint of Luca, Encanto, and The Incredibles. Both the Croods and the Trolls movies were way better animated movies than this one did in comparison.
But this is what happens when you make a kids movie with only a $70 million budget with very poor marketing.
So, I am still giving Ruby Gillman: Teenage Kraken a 4.5/10 with a three-star rating and a solid C-.
It has become my mission to seek out Haters of this film - and applaud them for trashing it. Like it deserves. FACTS & TRUTH. THIS has been one successful mission for me, personally.
I'm really disappointed that this movie failed. Dragons and Krakens are my brother's two favourite mythical creatures, and seeing how DreamWorks absolutely nailed their Dragon movie, I was hoping they could deliver on the Kraken too. But alas, they didn't.
On a side note, my brother also really likes Kitsunes, so now DreamWorks has to make a fucking awesome Kitsune movie to make up for it.
Look I am sorry it it … I love the movie it was so good and the plot is great and really has anyone talked about the awesome animation how disappointing 😢 r.i.p ruby gillman teenag👣
I actually really liked this movie. I thought the characters were fun and likable, the animation was cute that fits with the tone of the story and it was heartwarming imo. It’s sad that this movie was forgotten and bombed at the box office.
They made a huge mistake releasing Ruby Gillman right next to Across the Spider-Verse, The Little Mermaid, Transformers, The Flash and Indy 5. Same goes for Elemental (Another movie that i enjoyed).
They should’ve done better marketing, released it in another quiet month and definitely not spoiling the entire movie in the trailers.
Speaking of which, The Flash is on track to become an infamous flop, and, there are no words to express my joy.
They should've released this in February 2024, and if they did, then the movie would've did well.
@djstarkidmashups8536 Films released in February that don't pertain to Valentine's Day are usually swiftly forgotten, though, it's a fact, no doubt.
@@matthewdaley746From what I've heard, Ruby Gillman was supposed to be released in February next year.
@@djstarkidmashups8536 I remember that
6:10 even though its in the trailer...
I expected since you know *it was in the trailer* that the twist wasnt a really big part, and they half expected you to see it coming. But no apparently the movie treats it like a big reveal?
Chelsea didn't deserve to die looking non evil
Nothing in in the universe will not beat puss in Boots last wish cuz it's my favorite movie of all times I love
I agree. I haven't seen this movie but I don't need to. I remember the trailer for it when I went to see Across the Spider-Verse and was just like "Ummmm did they just spoil the whole thing...?" Like you said the marketing was pretty terrible and they did a great job showing the whole movie in only 2 minutes.
Ruby gillman teenage kraken is not a bad dreamworks movie it's just it's kind of boring and basic
Exactly. It's not some offensive horrible shit, but it's just boring Imo.
Thanks and at least ruby gillman teenage kraken has butaiful animation and the movie is colorful I will admit that
@@brodypl5804I find it worse when a film is boring and just forgettable than bad yet memorable.
At least with the latter I can have fun with those LOL
Jesus Christ is the narrow path to Heaven.
You actually hit the nail on the head with putting more emphasis on the Krakens and Mermaids seeing each other as bitter enemies.With two members of the opposite sides having this forbidden friendship or love and the only way the war can be resolved is for the opposing factions to put aside their differences and join forces against a common enemy who actually wants the war to continue. That would've made the story a thousand times more interesting than the usual generic teen high school drama shenanigans we've seen a million times over! I wanted to give this film the benefit of the doubt at first but after listening to reviews like this and the fact that it bombed harder than a nuclear explosion, I'll give this a HARD pass.
Honestly, I feel the movie was doomed when they kicked out Paul Tibbit and replaced him for Kirk Demicco in order to make the most safe by numbers summer movie!!! Not to mention he's responsible for directing and writing Space Chimps!!! Even if I had a pleasant time watching Ruby Gillman, I'm critically aware of its horrible flaws and Trolls 3 is gonna ruin the studio's reputation by November!! So much for wishful thinking at Dream works?!! 😤😤😤
Thank you for not bashing opinions on this movie
Just got back from watching it and...I'll admit; it was fine. But I WILL agree that Ruby and Chelsea should've remained friends. I think it would've been a better twist: have a mermaid that actually wants to break this eternal cycle of hatred between both species.
As it is, the film is decent. But I think it could've been so much better!
Btw the movie said Nerissa never had a daughter because Chelsea IS Nerissa. Which was also said in the film.
This maybe be my two cents into Ruby Gillman but when I saw the villain the trailer manipulating the Ruby to being her friend, I didn’t see it as a twist villain and more like “oh shit! Ruby better watch out, this girl ain’t trustworthy” at the same time I don’t blame people for feeling spoiled in the trailer.
Speaking of ruby gillman teenage kraken this film is okay and this movie is a combination of turning red luca and animated movie disney the little mermaid and the sequel the little mermaid 2 return to the sea
I like that Disney and DreamWorks failed at the same time. Sony is the only one who's actually doing consistently good in these recent years.
Not really, Elemental eventually had a massive recovery at the box office and Little Mermaid still did quite well.
why does dreamworks keep feeling the need to remind people that they made shrek on the poster's and trailers of literally every single one of their movie's
I'm so sorry that after Puss In Boots 2, the next DreamWorks film was this. I didn't see it, but it sounds like I made the right call. Thanks for seeing it.
How could you wish it was better if you haven't seen it?💀
I actually saw a trailer of this when watching Thor Love and Thunder all things, and I distinctly remember to decide not to watch it because it looked like another spoof movie, and outside of Shrek Dreamworks doesn't have the best record woth those.
Then again Shrek being a spoof is already a stretch to begin with.
Shrek is more of a subversion of traditional fairy tale tropes (at least the first 2 were) rather than a spoof film.
I’m feeling pretty bad at this film when I first looked at the trails it looked promising. I was expecting it to perform well at the box office and I was and I knew it was gonna be another jump on DreamWorks instead it turns out to be this late I didn’t seem to mind the spoilers the trailers showed and honestly yeah I feel bad for this film. 😥
I just wish it was more romantic and the guy ask her out. I'm so old-fashioned lol. I also wish Chelsea and Ruby stay bffs.
this would've worked better as a peacock original
Or a Netflix original
Exactly
Sending it to theaters was DOA
@@RYMAN1321 what does doa mean?
@@SIMBA-tq2ch Dead on Arrival
I remember people saying dreamworks was in a Renaissance because of puss in boots 2.
They were even saying that for Bad Guys, as that was a legit surprise
Daron Nefcy *wishes* she made this similar to Sony's Hotel Transylvania and despite this movie being a major flop, this ain't gonna kill off Dreamworks that easy. Imagine Dreamworks decided to continue Disney's live action reboots as their new villains (or regular rivals) In there next future film.
*Sequel Month for both Dreamswork and Pixar are coming around the corner*
Pray we still survive this one!
This movie is essentially “your racist grandma was right all along”
Yeah that was a pretty stupid thing
The “all mermaids are bad” idea in the film was extremely poor and incredibly misguided .
@@RYMAN1321agreed
Ngl when I saw the trailer, I knew the mermaid was the villain, but then when I saw the captain the whole time I thought he was the villain ☠️
Hey raizorblade, guess what I just found out yesterday. Apparently they’ve made a how to train your dragons: the nine realms game for the nintendo switch, doesn’t that just sound lovely? 🙃
Am I an asshole for not wanting to see this movie, only, because I am embarrassed as an 18 year old man to ask the Clerk to see the Ruby Gilman The Teenage Kraken? 😅😂
Nah, I saw Elemental by myself and was fine
Ruby Gillman is a good example of the "Flip the Premise" storytelling. And if you are going to ask "What's 'Flip The Premise?'" (Let's call it FTP for short), it's a writing technique where you take an existing story and flip it by making the hero into the villain and the villain into the hero. And then, you write a synopsis for your FTP story. And then, you strip your FTP story to the bare bone but keep the story's concept and make your own story out of it. FTP is what writers use when they have writer's block. It's the best technique IMO if you have writer's block.
And Ruby Gillman is an FTP story of "The Little Mermaid", obviously. Ruby is basically the good guy version of Ursula and Chelsea is the bad guy version of Arial. Other FTP stories like this includes Bright starring Will Smith, which is the FTP version of Lord of the Rings.