Best video so far on removing impeller. Mine is really stuck and was about to use channel locks when I saw your "strap wrench" - saved the day. Felt like I was watching myself, forgot diffuser, where did I place the screws etc. Again, thanks.
It’s gonna take me 30 minutes to contort myself into the space between my sand filter and heater to even get to the darn motor. I’ve got a ton of room and someone put all the mechanicals in a 3x3 layout. Fools!
Perfect, thank you. I followed your steps (I forgot that part at the end too....it fell off before re-inserting pump...quick fix after cursing) and got it together. I was worried I missed something because no water.....then went to dinner and I remembered long ago instructions to pour water in to prime pump. Came back, poured in water, and worked like a charm. Old pump didn't require it, but since system was emptied for a day, maybe water priming was needed. Again, great instructions ! A couple of hours and $150 was a lot better than the $600 the pool maintenance folks quoted me to replace the pump. Again, perfect, thanks.
Glad the vid helped! As long as there is water in the chamber it should start fine. But I always pour in a jug of water and fill to the brim any time I open the lid to empty the basket (which breaks the vacuum and causes the water to drain back in the pool.) Helps it start a lot faster
I think this was a great video. I appreciate seeing the problems and mistakes that could be made and how. To avoid them. I also appreciate the positive comments.
Bought a house with a pool so the last 3 years I've been learning about the system bit by bit as things break, how to fix them. I am familiar with motors as they are used in Mfg. so I had all these questions about this one and you answered them all! Thank you!
Excellent. I checked a few videos on pump replacement and yours was most helpful. Hit a few snags along the way, but your instructions were able to get me through them. the advice to check for black rubber band under the ceramic seal on the impeller. Thank you for your assistance
I watched your video. It was very helpful. I completed the motor install myself, saving $200, therefore you are awesome. Thanks from Knoxville Tennessee.
Thank you. Very helpful. Ordered a new motor and it should be here Thursday. My Hayward Super 1.5 HP motor started smoking yesterday. I've only had the pool open for a full week but I will miss it for the next few days.
Good job explaining the inner workings of the motor and pump. I'll need to do this soon if the replacement run capacitor doesn't make my motor run. It hums and shuts off in 5 seconds. a cap is only $13 but a new motor is $375 so if the cap doesn't work, I'll swap out the motor. Thank you for the video and tips.
I did the exact same thing you did, put it all back together ran it, and it sounded different, looked over on my table and there was the diffuser, OH Dopy me!!!. really good vid, thank you.
Important to note, this video was not made by a pool guy. The maker of this video also doesn't have much experience replacing pool pump motors. However, if i knew nothing I might not realize this. Most of the instructions can be bi-passed if you do this job properly. So, if you don't want to spend three hours on your knees replacing your motor call a pro, or watch a video made by a pro. Also there's millions of Hayward Super 2 pumps in use on millions of swimming pools and they work fantastic.
I fucked around for quite a while taking off and putting back on the start switch, if you have a thin enough wrench you DO NOT NEED to do this step, you can slide it in behind it will fit, you just have to remove the black thermal switch.
Thanks so much for the video. Not only was it entertaining (language), but it helped me figure out how to take the dang thing apart and reassemble. Much appreciated! #DIY #FreeLabor
Hi great video thank you for that I have two pumps and both pumps run for approx 1 minute and than shuts off if I wait a minute or two it will do that again. Have you any idea why this is happening, I've replace the capacitor still doing it. I'd rather repair it then replace it as its fairly new. Thanks for any advise you can share with me
Great. Thank you. I already had to do this once, about ten years ago. My 2hp crapped out today. It will work on 120 but not 240v. I bought a new pump that should arrive tomorrow. Any idea why a pump would work on 120 but not 240v? The power in is 240 confirmed, 120 per leg.. capacitor is fine at 25uf, The only thing that was out of spec were the ohms between the windings (I think). I used the 3 leads to the capacitor and assumed each wire is one of the windings. I got something like 3.1, 4.2 and the third should be 7.3, but was only 6.3 or so (if that makes sense. I’m talking about between the pairs of windings. Anyway, it would not run at all on 240. No noise, no buzz no nothing. I switched it over to 120 by moving a jumper on the power inlet, made a cord with spade connections, plugged it into 120 outlet and it ran fine. I’m stumped. Any ideas? Sorry for the long post and thanks for the video. It was helpful.
Queb, I took photos and video of my old Hayward pump before I switched it out with the new Century pump. I can’t figure out why when I slide the unit to filter housing there is approximately a 1cm gap between the motor assembly (with the diffuser in place) and the filter housing. It does not slide in flush. Any advice you can give will be appreciated.
There is a rubber ring that goes on the diffuser. Some times it gets caught and gets stuck. The diffuser also has to go in a certain way. Pay attention to the markings "top" on the seal plate and make sure they are aligned and in the correct orientation.
That's the life! Winter is coming here, I already drained the pool about a third and blew out all the water from the pipes and closed them off. Everything will be iced over in a few weeks
My super pump II "END CAP"on wiring harness side I broke both 1/4" head screws off, trying to remove them. What does it take to remove this cap/cover? It won't budge I've used a rubber mallet hitting it hard to try and loosen it. Do I have to destroy it in trying prying to get it off? It's like welded on from corrosion.
Try getting some wd-40 around the seam. You have to hit the seam with a flat head screw driver and mallet. You have to hit around the entire cap evenly and it will slowly start to walk itself off.
@@rac9494 Maybe a bit around the edge. You are hitting on the edge where it mates with the aluminum end of the pump. You do not need to destroy the cover
@@QuaabQueb How did u diagnose the short coming from windings? Whats happening. The pump starts running then after a few seconds only one of the 2 poles on circuit dbl breaker trips! When I switch the legs(wires)to other pole the breaker I switched to trips. A dead short usually happens instantly which is not happening. Any idea or suggestions?
I’m wiring my new pump motor I got. I have a 20 Amp breaker switch outside where my pool pump is and I have 12-2 wire going to my pool pump. It’s black, white, ground. Can you tell me where black and white wires go? I know the ground goes to the ground screw. It’s 120 volts coming off the black and white wires we did a test with our meter. Also, do I leave where the manufacture set the black plug at 230V? I have a 3/4 HP Replacement motor for my Hayward Super Pump I bought from inyo pools. I need help wiring it up👍
Per INYO pools info, the wires for a 230V are red, black, and green. My motor is 115V and the wire colors are the same as yours. Other videos that cover 115V show the white connects to the first terminal, the black to the third, and the green to the ground. I just got the number for the company (Regal) handling the questions for this product for AO Smith and am calling them in the morning to confirm: 800 672-6495 8:00 to 5:00 EDST.
It is my understanding and experience that the motor being so corroded and seized up from water getting into the motor is due to a bad shaft seal which you did not change out before installing your brand new motor! I'm wondering how long your new motor lasted without a new shaft seal.
Great video, you saved me a shit load of money learning how to troubleshoot mine. Fast question for you. When I separated the impeller part from the square basket front piece. I care across a strange black rubber gasket? I can figure were it goes? Any idea?
Yes the rubber gasket goes in the round hole where the end of the diffuse cone enters. You should put it back on the end of the diffuser cone, and gently slide it back in to the strainer housing to make sure it does not fall off
You can try AC Rebatisseur, 1900 Rue Thomas Edison, in Terrebonne, Bought parts from them a while back, they buy sell and rebuild pool pumps and all sorts of electric motors. See if you can make a deal with him where you trade in your old motor for a discount.
The grey v thing will break off. Careful fooling with it. Also, the little tab on the spring should push the little button in the v thing all the way in.
Not sure if you switched your impeller but you can’t just change the HP of the new motor without making sure the impeller will work with the new HP this will cause a premature failure in the motor. In fact, a 2HP impeller has a different part number than a 1HP so I don’t think they are interchangeable just a heads up for the viewers.
You don't have to take all that off the back of the motor..you just need to be a little smarter than a pump motor..just slide your 7/16 inch wrench on the motor shaft just i beside the start capacitor..
Hard to but does exist. You can search Ebay, or call local AC motor repair shops. Some will even give you a discount when you trade in your motor as they can rebuilt it and sell it after. Note you do not need the exact same model motor. As long as you do not increase in horsepower and the frame size is the same it should be fine.
@@non-monogamousmark No problem. If you look on the data tag you should see the frame size, for these super pumps with the round flange it's a 56J frame. Any 56J frame with the threaded shaft will fit. A note, you should get one with a higher run temperature, it will keep it from overheating and burning out. If your pump is exposed to direct sunlight outdoors, built it a sort of shelter (leaving much room for air circulation,)if it is inside a shack or shed, install some vents or fans to improve air circulation.
@@QuaabQueb great advice. Thank you so much. The pump is on an in ground hot tub that is part of a house I lived in for 33 years and currently have a pending sale on it. I want to get it running allowing the new owner to enjoy as they move in. Once they are moved in they are on their own. I now live in the house right next door so I figure if we are going to be neighbors I want them really happy with the purchase of the home I built and lived in for 33 years. I spent the past year updating and remodeling it to bring top dollar.
@@non-monogamousmark I understand, worth it to put in the extra few dollars to get the pump going. Pools and spas seem to always be a spooky unknown for home owners. Just dont get too friendly with them or they will be calling you up for every little thing!
Best video so far on removing impeller. Mine is really stuck and was about to use channel locks when I saw your "strap wrench" - saved the day. Felt like I was watching myself, forgot diffuser, where did I place the screws etc. Again, thanks.
@@dannshapiro1201 Glad it helped. You "can" use channel locks if you are careful. If an impeller is stuck on the shaft some times you have no choice.
Thanks for the video, step by step worked great. Sliding the smaller 7/16 worked great without having to remove anything. 30min including electrical
Glad it helped
It’s gonna take me 30 minutes to contort myself into the space between my sand filter and heater to even get to the darn motor. I’ve got a ton of room and someone put all the mechanicals in a 3x3 layout. Fools!
Perfect, thank you. I followed your steps (I forgot that part at the end too....it fell off before re-inserting pump...quick fix after cursing) and got it together. I was worried I missed something because no water.....then went to dinner and I remembered long ago instructions to pour water in to prime pump. Came back, poured in water, and worked like a charm. Old pump didn't require it, but since system was emptied for a day, maybe water priming was needed. Again, great instructions ! A couple of hours and $150 was a lot better than the $600 the pool maintenance folks quoted me to replace the pump. Again, perfect, thanks.
Glad the vid helped! As long as there is water in the chamber it should start fine. But I always pour in a jug of water and fill to the brim any time I open the lid to empty the basket (which breaks the vacuum and causes the water to drain back in the pool.) Helps it start a lot faster
I think this was a great video. I appreciate seeing the problems and mistakes that could be made and how. To avoid them. I also appreciate the positive comments.
Bought a house with a pool so the last 3 years I've been learning about the system bit by bit as things break, how to fix them. I am familiar with motors as they are used in Mfg. so I had all these questions about this one and you answered them all! Thank you!
Glad it helped. Owning and maintaining a pool is a never ending journey.
Excellent. I checked a few videos on pump replacement and yours was most helpful. Hit a few snags along the way, but your instructions were able to get me through them. the advice to check for black rubber band under the ceramic seal on the impeller. Thank you for your assistance
Thank you, really helped to see someone else do this
I watched your video. It was very helpful. I completed the motor install myself, saving $200, therefore you are awesome. Thanks from Knoxville Tennessee.
Glad it helped! Regards from Quebec, Canada (Montreal)
Thank you. Very helpful. Ordered a new motor and it should be here Thursday. My Hayward Super 1.5 HP motor started smoking yesterday. I've only had the pool open for a full week but I will miss it for the next few days.
Good job explaining the inner workings of the motor and pump. I'll need to do this soon if the replacement run capacitor doesn't make my motor run. It hums and shuts off in 5 seconds. a cap is only $13 but a new motor is $375 so if the cap doesn't work, I'll swap out the motor. Thank you for the video and tips.
Thank you for your explanation, it was very helpful, with that I was able to replace the water pump.
I did the exact same thing you did, put it all back together ran it, and it sounded different, looked over on my table and there was the diffuser, OH Dopy me!!!. really good vid, thank you.
Important to note, this video was not made by a pool guy. The maker of this video also doesn't have much experience replacing pool pump motors. However, if i knew nothing I might not realize this. Most of the instructions can be bi-passed if you do this job properly. So, if you don't want to spend three hours on your knees replacing your motor call a pro, or watch a video made by a pro. Also there's millions of Hayward Super 2 pumps in use on millions of swimming pools and they work fantastic.
I fucked around for quite a while taking off and putting back on the start switch, if you have a thin enough wrench you DO NOT NEED to do this step, you can slide it in behind it will fit, you just have to remove the black thermal switch.
This video saved me hundreds! Thank you!!!
Thanks for the video, you made this task a very easy one to handle!
Awesome detail. This was really well done.
Thanks great explanation of taking motor off the pump!
Thanks so much for the video. Not only was it entertaining (language), but it helped me figure out how to take the dang thing apart and reassemble. Much appreciated! #DIY #FreeLabor
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Hi great video thank you for that I have two pumps and both pumps run for approx 1 minute and than shuts off if I wait a minute or two it will do that again. Have you any idea why this is happening, I've replace the capacitor still doing it. I'd rather repair it then replace it as its fairly new. Thanks for any advise you can share with me
Great. Thank you. I already had to do this once, about ten years ago. My 2hp crapped out today. It will work on 120 but not 240v. I bought a new pump that should arrive tomorrow. Any idea why a pump would work on 120 but not 240v? The power in is 240 confirmed, 120 per leg.. capacitor is fine at 25uf,
The only thing that was out of spec were the ohms between the windings (I think). I used the 3 leads to the capacitor and assumed each wire is one of the windings. I got something like 3.1, 4.2 and the third should be 7.3, but was only 6.3 or so (if that makes sense. I’m talking about between the pairs of windings.
Anyway, it would not run at all on 240. No noise, no buzz no nothing. I switched it over to 120 by moving a jumper on the power inlet, made a cord with spade connections, plugged it into 120 outlet and it ran fine. I’m stumped. Any ideas? Sorry for the long post and thanks for the video. It was helpful.
Hi , good vid
Regarding that metal piece attached to the rotor, What's its purpose ? And what if I remove it ?
5:08 - Thank you for making it a long video. :D
Good job! This helped me a bunch. Thanks for your time.
Thank you. This helped me a lot!
Great video really helped me out! My dumbass was trying to pry off the impeller !! LOL
Queb, I took photos and video of my old Hayward pump before I switched it out with the new Century pump. I can’t figure out why when I slide the unit to filter housing there is approximately a 1cm gap between the motor assembly (with the diffuser in place) and the filter housing. It does not slide in flush. Any advice you can give will be appreciated.
There is a rubber ring that goes on the diffuser. Some times it gets caught and gets stuck. The diffuser also has to go in a certain way. Pay attention to the markings "top" on the seal plate and make sure they are aligned and in the correct orientation.
@@QuaabQueb I appreciate it. great video btw. Very helpful.
Great job! Thanks. This motor run for ever. Mine is at least 15 yeas old and we have a long swim season in New Mexico
That's the life! Winter is coming here, I already drained the pool about a third and blew out all the water from the pipes and closed them off. Everything will be iced over in a few weeks
Awesome thx, loved the saying about the missing screw
lol which ?
My super pump II "END CAP"on wiring harness side I broke both 1/4" head screws off, trying to remove them. What does it take to remove this cap/cover? It won't budge I've used a rubber mallet hitting it hard to try and loosen it. Do I have to destroy it in trying prying to get it off? It's like welded on from corrosion.
Try getting some wd-40 around the seam. You have to hit the seam with a flat head screw driver and mallet. You have to hit around the entire cap evenly and it will slowly start to walk itself off.
@@QuaabQueb So there will be some damage to the cover? If not completely destroying it. Thx 4 ur reply.
@@rac9494 Maybe a bit around the edge. You are hitting on the edge where it mates with the aluminum end of the pump. You do not need to destroy the cover
@@QuaabQueb How did u diagnose the short coming from windings? Whats happening. The pump starts running then after a few seconds only one of the 2 poles on circuit dbl breaker trips! When I switch the legs(wires)to other pole the breaker I switched to trips. A dead short usually happens instantly which is not happening. Any idea or suggestions?
I’m wiring my new pump motor I got. I
have a 20 Amp breaker switch outside where my pool pump is and I have 12-2 wire going to my pool pump. It’s black, white, ground. Can you tell me where black and white wires go? I know the ground goes to the ground screw. It’s 120 volts coming off the black and white wires we did a test with our meter. Also, do I leave where the manufacture set the black plug at 230V? I have a 3/4 HP Replacement motor for my Hayward Super Pump I bought from inyo pools. I need help wiring it up👍
Per INYO pools info, the wires for a 230V are red, black, and green. My motor is 115V and the wire colors are the same as yours. Other videos that cover 115V show the white connects to the first terminal, the black to the third, and the green to the ground. I just got the number for the company (Regal) handling the questions for this product for AO Smith and am calling them in the morning to confirm: 800 672-6495 8:00 to 5:00 EDST.
Great video. Thank you!
It is my understanding and experience that the motor being so corroded and seized up from water getting into the motor is due to a bad shaft seal which you did not change out before installing your brand new motor! I'm wondering how long your new motor lasted without a new shaft seal.
Correct. This was not my personal pump as I am not retarded. See my other video on the design flaw with these pool pumps.
I can't get the impeller off even with a strap wrench. Any suggestions?
Tnk'u man that help's me a lot ...saludos from guadalajara México
👍👍👍
Great video, you saved me a shit load of money learning how to troubleshoot mine. Fast question for you. When I separated the impeller part from the square basket front piece. I care across a strange black rubber gasket? I can figure were it goes? Any idea?
Yes the rubber gasket goes in the round hole where the end of the diffuse cone enters.
You should put it back on the end of the diffuser cone, and gently slide it back in to the strainer housing to make sure it does not fall off
What happens if they ground comes off while it's pumping. Can it be saved?
I don't know what you are trying to say.
@@QuaabQueb the ground wire came disconnected. Pump had a small blowout. Never use strand copper wires lol
@@JonathanDeleon-f7d So something just shorted and sparked probably. It may have not done any danage. Try to connect everything again properly.
@@QuaabQueb thanks !
Thank you thank you thank you!!!
Good fix
I wish this showed the removal of the unit from the system (unwiring, etc.), so not quite complete
Do you have any recommended sources for replacement motors in the Montreal area? Or best source online?
You can try AC Rebatisseur, 1900 Rue Thomas Edison, in Terrebonne,
Bought parts from them a while back, they buy sell and rebuild pool pumps and all sorts of electric motors.
See if you can make a deal with him where you trade in your old motor for a discount.
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Should I leave it at 230 and how would I know if it’s 115?
The grey v thing will break off. Careful fooling with it. Also, the little tab on the spring should push the little button in the v thing all the way in.
The grey V thing is the starter switch. I broke one resting the motor on it's back end once.
Thank you!,
Do you like Hayward? We didn’t.. new installs always had there stuff we never replaced with Hayward
Yes, they are one of the most common out there. I find them easy and inexpensive to repair.
It's a lot easier to take the capacitor loose then slice a 7/16 wrench onto the shaft vs trying to use an adjustable..
This is what i have found to be easier
....WHAT IS THE PART NAME OF THE V-SHAPED SWITCH THAT PROVIDES POWER TO THE CAPACITOR?
Start switch 629002-001
@@QuaabQueb Bingo.....Thank you so much~!
@@housekeepingrehab9030 Make sure it looks the same before you order it... The newer motors are made by Century which took over A.O smith.
Thanks for this. I couldn't remember how I did it last time.
So did you invert it to a 115
Thank you
Does this particular pump have an impeller wear ring?
Can you give me the model number of the motor that you install thanks
Not sure if you switched your impeller but you can’t just change the HP of the new motor without making sure the impeller will work with the new HP this will cause a premature failure in the motor. In fact, a 2HP impeller has a different part number than a 1HP so I don’t think they are interchangeable just a heads up for the viewers.
Yes you are right about that.
Chargèro Otherwise excellent information and thank you for taking the time to share this!
Like I always said. If you want it nice, you do it twice!
Dude , your going to burn 🔥 out the motor if you switch out a 2hp for 1hp. When you do that you have to change the impeller to 1hp impeller.
Correct. However Impeller is the for 3/4 up to 1.5hp
@@QuaabQueb oh so you put in a different impeller not the 2hp impeller. 👌👍
You don't have to take all that off the back of the motor..you just need to be a little smarter than a pump motor..just slide your 7/16 inch wrench on the motor shaft just i beside the start capacitor..
Yes that is true, see my latest video
I need to replace my motor. How can I find a deal on them online?
Hard to but does exist. You can search Ebay, or call local AC motor repair shops. Some will even give you a discount when you trade in your motor as they can rebuilt it and sell it after.
Note you do not need the exact same model motor. As long as you do not increase in horsepower and the frame size is the same it should be fine.
@@QuaabQueb Thank you so much.
@@non-monogamousmark No problem. If you look on the data tag you should see the frame size, for these super pumps with the round flange it's a 56J frame. Any 56J frame with the threaded shaft will fit. A note, you should get one with a higher run temperature, it will keep it from overheating and burning out. If your pump is exposed to direct sunlight outdoors, built it a sort of shelter (leaving much room for air circulation,)if it is inside a shack or shed, install some vents or fans to improve air circulation.
@@QuaabQueb great advice. Thank you so much. The pump is on an in ground hot tub that is part of a house I lived in for 33 years and currently have a pending sale on it.
I want to get it running allowing the new owner to enjoy as they move in. Once they are moved in they are on their own.
I now live in the house right next door so I figure if we are going to be neighbors I want them really happy with the purchase of the home I built and lived in for 33 years. I spent the past year updating and remodeling it to bring top dollar.
@@non-monogamousmark I understand, worth it to put in the extra few dollars to get the pump going. Pools and spas seem to always be a spooky unknown for home owners. Just dont get too friendly with them or they will be calling you up for every little thing!
excellent, thanks
Does anyone know how to remove the unit from the actual system?
What unit from what system?
thank you :)
Great video Thanks!
But 10 minutes?
I rather be thorough and cover all the details then not as many others do
What about the impeller screw, none of the pump motor replacement video show or talk about it
Well why dont you actually watch the video....
For 1600 bucks, I’m buying a 300 dollar pump and taking a stab at it! Local pool store quoted me 1600. Nope…
300 for a motor or a used pump?
Beware buying used pumps...
“Nice and easy”…. After deleting the hard stuff. Lol
Thats a GARBAGE MOTOR ;( Next time buy the GOLD MOTOR --- Way better - but kind cool video ;)
They do not come in Gold as replacements from A.O. Smith
Hayward orders them painted gold for some of their models, it's still the same motor.....
10 minutes bahahahaha
You spent too much useless time removing the springs and you skipped/failed to show some important steps.