CORRECT SCREW for SOUTH BEND LATHE
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- Watch my SOUTH BEND LATHE series starting with---
UPGRADING SOUTH BEND LATHE C to B #803 tubalcain part 1
• UPGRADING SOUTH BEND L...
Thanks for viewing----please watch all 1400 of my shop videos.
Then like & subscribe & ring the bell icon.
#clausinglayhe#loganlathe#sherlinelathe#monarchlathe#emcolathe#myfordlathe#atlaslathe#boxfordlathe
The oil holes does not have to line up. The groove that is turned on the shaft around the holes means that whatever the orientation oil can circulate around the groove which act as a reservoir and enter the oiling points.
"Oil Can" I love it.
Thanks
Why not a tiny Gits oiler there so you could pop in a few drops when you think about it?
That was my immediate thought.
@@ellieprice363 The cross section is way too thin for a Gits ball oiler.
Very informative Mr. Pete. Nothing I enjoy more than a cup of coffee and and a Mr. Pete video. Always the treat.
👍
Thanks Mr Pete - another informative video presented in your usual style and dry humour. Love your work!
👍
Watched the video before my coffee. Nice upgrade and kind people/ machinist for donating. Stand tall gentlemen. Thanks for the video Mr Pete. 73
Interesting first comment. You do have a diverse audience. My 9A started with the small dials. I replaced the crossfeed with a satin direct read about the same size as your new one. The compound feed has a large dial but not satin chrome. Both very easy on old eyes. Great video as always
I took "machine shop" back in the early seventies, got my lathe work on a lathe very much like this one. We had about sixteen or eighteen of them, all from the early forties back in Chicago. I've got several Logan's of the same generation, a 42, 48 and a 46 that at ten by 42's. I've rebuilt them all at least once, they are a bit easier to rebuild than a south bend. These were the real workhorses of that second world war.
Mr Pete, thanks for another great video and I sure love that nice southbend Lathe it would be just the perfect size for a home shop and having the new variable speed drive and feed screw really completes this lathe .
Good morning Mr Pete. Lots of work into this machine - beautiful. John
👍
You sir are truly a blessed man. So many folks like you and what you do and are willing to give to you so you can continue to give back. That’s a good reason to be a fan. Good luck with your reversing issue on the craftsman lathe.
Thanks
Hear, hear!
I'd say oil that little hole, the two holes in the threaded collar are trapped inside the cross saddle EDIT: THREADS and if we dump enough oil down the cute little plug hole, it'd get oil. ?
The older cross screws are a Wiley bugger to try and straighten.
If I may? The original cross feed grad. collars are not direct reading.
Might that be a short subject? I'd like that info to clear it up. Is it to remember to multiply by 2 the small dials to actual work done? This older 9 smacked me in the face with that just an evening ago with that.
An older machinist tried to stump me with "You know if I go .005, it'll be a ten thou cut?" Yes, I understand that Roland. Great mind for machining, we became good work friends, learned much but was stunned he didn't want any part of machining after he retired soon back then. Stunned.
Thank you for never giving up trying to teach us lunkheads! Always appreciated/always learning.
Thanks. I cover the direct reading topic many years ago.
His Workshop looks a lot like the Workshop I was taught. A teacher.
Wouldn't the oil still find its way around the relief area where the threads are cut off? Seems to me it should get plenty of oil to the shaft.
Thanks Lyle..
Mike M.
Your videos are so enjoyable on a relaxing Sunday morning. I wish I could give more than one thumbs-up. Hope you stay healthy for a long time and can continue to make many more.👍👍👍👍
Thank you very much
Thanks for your videos Mr. Pete! I've learned so much from you over the years, and you helped me get into machining as a hobby. I know in past videos you've had viewers do CAD design and 3D printing for you. Would you have use for anything similar today? I'd love the opportunity to "pay back" to your channel, and I'd be more than happy to donate some CAD models, drawings, or design work.
the undercut on my crossfeed dial bushing allows for oiling no matter where the oil hole is. I checked long ago by oiling without the feed screw.
Very good video. I will add one thing. I have been using Green locktite for many years for permanent instalation. After allowing a 24 hour cure time I have yet to have a failure! It's some strong stuff in my opinion.
Great stuff as always Mr. Pete. I look forward to Sat/Sun just to watch your videos with my coffee.
👍
A beautiful lathe. Very similar to my craftsman
Lakeside was a line for Montgomery Wards I believe. I have a bench vise that I overtook from my dad😄
I have a SB 13 that has the tiny dial on the cross feed spindle....I need to make a new one.... doing the graduation markings are going to be a challenge though...must make an indexing attachment and saddle stop first I think... Thanks for the loverly videos Mr pete you keep these old machines working around the world, Ian UK
👍👍
Another great video Mr Pete! I have a 1929, 9" South Bend lathe. Had over 50 years! Still not much wear considering age. I had to braze up 2 teeth in the back gear when I got it. After that it was really nice! Flat belts and jack shaft makes for cumbersome speed changes! Lol! Not used much any more as I have a 15" Clausing, 7.5 hp and 50" between centers. Made more money with the SB 9" but I've had it much longer. Might catch up one day but I doubt it! Thanks for your time and sharing! Morning coffee and Mr Pete vids, thanks!
I know what you mean. Once you have a bigger lathe with many features, it is hard to go back to the smaller under powered machines I do 90% of my machining on my clausing
Thank you for sharing. Enjoyed👍👀
Thanks Mr. Pete! That was an interesting segment. 👍
😀
I work for a company that manufactures IOLs (intraocular lenses). They are used for cataract surgery. I have heard you mention that you have cataracts several times. Have you ever thought of having new lenses implanted?
I have a manmade lens in my right eye. My vision from day one was measurably worse after than before. A lady in my building is blind in one eye because the lens replacement failed badly. My father ended up with two manmade lenses and was happy with the results. So end-user results vary widely. Traditional cataract surgery removed individual cataracts.
I can only hope the majority are happy with the results,but my own experience is so suboptimal I will have to be blind in my left eye before I ever allow the risk. There is a phrase that goes,be careful what you ask for you just might get it. If Mr. Pete can cope with what he has,that is better than being blind or having a fuzzy mess for an image,which is what my right eye delivers. Not being unpleasant to you,but there is always risk in any surgery.
Late Night w/ MrPete
Monkee Ward had a lakeside tool brand , but there was also a Lakeside forging company not related to the MW tools.
My thoughts also.
Pete, it really bugs me that RUclips doesn't provide a "Name - Word" search function on each video. The reason I say this is I can't believe you uploaded this video a year ago without me seeing it or, yes commenting on it. I just know I have to be in there somewhere! On another note, there needs to be a video dealing with the compound removal. If those 2 steel plugs are gunked up it can make the compound removal a bear !
Oops! I forgot to say thanks for this video. The loosening of the slotted Apron screws is invaluable to know! It beats the hell out of removing it for this operation.
Wakodahatchee Chris
👍👍👍
Another great Mr. Pete, just a technical note, shouldn't the model number be : B-VFD? ;-) and the Eagle oil cans are great, just DO NOT fill higher than the trigger or they will seep out. used them in our field service bags in the 80's for that reason, love them..
Lyle ..
Am I correct in pointing out the oil would fill the groove between the thread and shoulder in the feed screw and find its way into the hole regardless of orientation ?
Just trying to avoid your imminent crucifixion.
👍
Thanks Mr.Pete
I recommend replacing the South Bend dial with a. 200" Bridgeport dial. Works out perfectly & reads like a modern lathe, also has high visibility.
👍
Great video. I have a 9" A w/Large dials and a 10" hvy on a bent leg frame (has war dept tag). Sure would like to find a large dial (10") set up for the cross feed, getting old eyes..
Lyle - Another great video. 'No wonder there's an oil shortage' - have to laugh as I oil my Heavy 10 the same way every time I use it. Was cutting threads yesterday so it got oiled - including all the small screw removals to make sure all surfaces are lubricated. Take a few minutes but is a 'Zen moment' LOL. It's a 1945 in good shape and I want to keep it that way. I'm about 7 years younger than you and understand the nice larger dials although I'm still able to use the old small ones. Now you can really confuse yourself with a direct reading cross slide and old style compound - at least I'm sure I'd mess it up but you are most likely more attentive than I am.
👍👍
Well done, works great.😊😊😊😊😊😊
Mr Pete is the very best !!
Good video.
Thanks for sharing
Job well done and right on time.Thank you.
Excellent work
Montgomery Ward made Lakeside tools. I have a Lakeside croos cut saw from my granfather.
👍
Thanks again
Mr. Pete; to find something in the comments, while viewing the video, just press Ctrl + F - the text input field will appear in the upper right hand corner of your screen. Hopefully, your results will not vary. :-)
Thank you, I will try that. I was unaware.
I’m going to presume you’ve covered the topic of how to & when one oughta dress the flat belt for these lathes, somewhere in one of your MANY video tutorials? Wondering if linseed oil would be best but how much & how often?
I think the groove in the shaft would let oil into the hole.
Happy Advent season!.. heck I like the screw and gear you made just about as well!
I'm going to say it, you did GREAT work and while not OEM Factory? It wasn't a 'wrong' answer, it was just a different answer that WORKED. So, ignore the noisy comments, give yourself a well deserved pat on the back for making a working solution.
Adding a comment because that's supposed to help as well.
Great video as always. Thanks again for the great content
Would milling a small groove between the oil holes allow oil to wick I to where it needs to go? This way the orientation of the holes wouldn't be as crucial. Thank you for posting interesting content such as this.
I think the thread relief serves the purpose of being an oil passage to the cross-feed screw. Note the sleeve has two holes for oil and it is doubtful they were drilled at assembly as Lyle postulated. The test would be to remove the oil plug screw on the cross-slide and add oil. If the oil can't go anywhere it would overflow instantly.
Cheers from NC/USA
I'd give your video two thumbs up if possible.
I too am in need of a model 9 cross feed screw if anyone has a lead on one. I am refurbishing an old machine that had been tipped over and broke the cross slide and gearbox. Gearbox is fixed but have not found a reasonably priced screw. any help is appreciated.
That's a beautiful little lathe. I haven't seen one with a tensioning feed clutch knob for a very long time. Does it have a bull pin to engage the back gears?
My method for cutting left hand acme threads is put the cutting tool upside-down and run the spindle in reverse. This allows the cuts to travel from the tailstock to the headstock and you won't have to machine an undercut for the thread. I made a few of them about a year ago for a defense project....don't forget to have calibrated thread ring gauges either.
Yes, I love that method of running the machine backwards
@@mrpete222 not safe on a lathe with a threaded spindle holding the chuck : )
I've only tried running in reverse with the newer spindles with a series of cam locking pins securing the chuck to the spindle.
I did not see any motion to the cross slide when the clutch was engaged. Is Lambert's nut different from the original? Ron W4BIN
6:34 "This would be a very challenging job". It would be close to impossible without a dimensioned drawing.
I think that commenting also helps the RUclips algorithms. I have a South Bend 405 that someone made changes to that I am struggling to learn a little about. Some of them were actually listed on the card that I got from SB, and some not. I call it my Franken Lathe. Since I also have a 12” Craftsman I haven’t been spending much time on it, I mostly just glare at it in the corner for taking up valuable bench space.
😀
😂😂😂😂
Lakeside tools was also know as "Monkey Wards". 😉
But it seems the oil will flow into the cavity surrounding the holes, and find its way through the hole onto the shaft.
I posted this on an earlier video on the SB lathe by mistake so I copied it here. I have a South Bend Mod.9a. purchased from the estate of a old clock maker. It came with a complete, (i think) set of collets I have used them using the hand knob draw screw but I also have the SB lever closert attachment SB#CL5206N, the Turet tailstock SB # CL2045N and the Combination Double Tool Slide SB# CL2030N and the Milling Attachment SB#2680NB. I don't forsee ever having any use for any of these attachmants. I am looking for a home where they will be appreciated and may be used. If this email does get to you (I hope) I am offering these to you or if your not interested maybe you know where/who may be interested. Of course the problem is location, with shipping being expencive. I enjoy the videos. I know you don't want your email out in the web, neither do I, so I don't know any other way to get in touch with you.
Now, if only a quick change gearbox should magically appear.
dear pete its me again ! todays technology is beyond belief !imagine when they were making south bend lathes and fine machines they were ! the jet engine was still in its infancy but being bettered all the time . and with patience and a little luck ,, who knows what is possible ? there is a company 30 mile from where i live ... tha make small jet engines /gas turbines .. for small rc aircraft the smallest that the make is able to slip into a coke cola tin/ can,,and runs quiet comfortablely at 250.thousand rpm. so yo see pete ,,,,,nothing is modern its already been bettered on the drawing board before the first one is sold . now a very good poem some time when your feeling important.sometime when your ego s in bloom , sometime when you take it for granted ,, your the most qualified man in the room,,some tim when you think that your leaving would leave an unfillable hole,,, just follow these simple instructions .. and see how it humbles your soul...take a bucket ,, fillit with water ... lpace your hand in up to the wriat,,,, take it out and the hole that remaines ther is the measure of how much youll be missed,,you may splace all you like when you enter,,, you may stir up the waters galore,, but stop ! and wait for a moment and youll see its the same as before,,,,the moral of this story is simple ,,, do just the best that you cand ,,, be proud of your work ,, but remember...THER IS NO IRRIPLACEABLE MAN !
Have you tapped your maple to make syrup? ☺
Sure have, it was excellent
⭐🙂👍
What does direct read mean versus???? ?
Direct reading means that each graduation of the dial takes that amount from the diameter. Small diameter dials are usually calibrated for radius. (.010 on the dial removes .020 from the diameter.) With direct dials .010 on the dial removes .010 from the diameter.
Why not put it together then drill a new oil hole
Why so many thumbs downs?
Is this a temporary video?