Comparing 12 Viridian Green Watercolors - Colossal Color Showdown S3, Ep. 9
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- In the ninth episode of Colossal Color Showdown Season 3, we are taking a look at 12 Viridian Green Watercolors - in terms of mass tone, price, opacity, lift and glaze.
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Colors tested in this episode:
+ Daniel Smith Viridian PG18
Jacksons: bit.ly/3Lop27l Amazon US: amzn.to/3LhXgcK
+ Holbein Viridian PG18
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+ Sennelier Viridian Green PG18, PG7
Jacksons: bit.ly/38oFOoq Amazon US: amzn.to/3LnmwOV
+ Winsor & Newton Viridian PG18
Jacksons: bit.ly/3xX4f7h... US: amzn.to/38vs6jK
+ M. Graham Viridian PG18
Jacksons: bit.ly/30uxos9 Amazon US: amzn.to/3rRel5C
+ Mission Gold Viridian PG7
Jacksons: bit.ly/3OHHSbA Amazon US: amzn.to/3EUnP5e
+ Rembrandt Viridian PG18
Jacksons: bit.ly/38rAC2W Amazon US: amzn.to/3vjqSRo
+ Turner Viridian PG18
Jacksons: bit.ly/3ERgCmx Amazon US: amzn.to/3vk5knG
+ Old Holland Viridian Green Deep PG18, PB29
Jacksons: bit.ly/38rScUC
+ MaimeriBlu Viridian PG18
Jacksons: bit.ly/3KoNbtc
+ Ken Bromley Viridian Hue PG7, PY3
Ken Bromley: bit.ly/3KmDdbZ
+ Van Gogh Viridian PG7
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+ Fabriano Academia Jackson's: bit.ly/3iYKgKc
+ Aureoline (Holbein)
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+ Quinacridone Rose (Daniel Smith)
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+ Phthalo Blue Yellow Shade (Holbein)
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+ Pro Arte Prolene Plus size 10 round brush
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This is such coincidental timing as just this weekend I made a series of paintings basically only using Roman Szmal's viridian! It's a little hard to rewet but so worth it for the lovely soft colour.
Mineral paints like viridian, cobalts, etc need extra binder to be soft enough to get them into tubes, you can either mix the extra binder back into the tube or pour it off. I put a drop of glycerin into my viridian to make it stay more rewettable, but a drop of honey would work as well.
@@SuzyMoon864what kind of glycerin/where to buy it?
I currently have the m. Graham Viridian, and it surprised me when I saw how hard it was to rewet, since they usually are so easy due to the honey. I do love it, and it creates a lovely atmospheric color when mixed with ultramarine violet.
I like viridian, it's so lovely green. My favorite is from Schmincke. I was surprised to see it here, in the comparison video. Schmincke's viridian is well pigmented, rewets easily, and has a beautiful granulation.
I’m with you on the Schmincke being my favourite (over Daniel Smith, Roman Szmal and Maimeri Blu) that I currently have. I find that the Schmincke one has the nicest granulation in my collection, I also like the tone of it slightly more, easy to rewet, no binder separation/issues (I once had a Daniel Smith PG18 tube that had awful binder split, second tube was better but still not as good as the Schmincke half pan in my opinion).
If another arty friend had no PG18, on the spot I would give them my Schmincke dot card to try, they could have the rest of the Daniel Smith tube but I wouldn’t give away my Schmincke half-pan. I would maybe buy them their own Schmincke half pan as a gift, but I wouldn’t give mine away or swap it for another brand.
W&N grabbed my attention from the first second of the video. Thanks for your work.
Yay! Viridian! I have Holbein, M Graham, used to have DS but used it up. I love M Graham for how intense and easy to rewet it it.
Edited to add a side note: I really love using Cobalt green deep PG26. It’s not the same shade as Viridian but in my mind it is a very close relative. Definitely a more close relative than pg7!
i’ve just recently started to use viridian, and it has some really unique properties! thanks for this video, these comparisons are so helpful!! the amount you go in depth with properties etc. for so many paints is amazing! i’m glad that I got the daniel smith viridian instead of the windsor and newton one, they’re both lovely, but I like my colors to have a little more opacity and granulation :)
I am using the one by Schmincke and I love it. It is hard to rewet, but it gives me what I want from it. But now I really want that insane phthalo green by Mission Gold.
It's a beautiful color but SO intense, you barely even need to touch it!
I am thrilled that W&N Viridian has been doing so well in this testing. That’s the brand I have. Thanks for sharing this wonderful informational video with us.
Sennelier viridian is one of my palette basics. I use it in dozens of mixes, but almost never alone. I love the tinting strength and the little flecks of real viridian that granulated out to add interest and sparkle.
Thank you for these videos, very informative. Just an advice though: please set the white balance in your camera before you start recording. You will need a "grey card", these cost just $7 to $10. Without it, you white balance jumps around as you move your hands on the paper and it alters the painted colors. Even when you don't have your hands on the paper, the background is too blue, meaning that the painted colors are not accurate on screen. Setting the white balance will fix these problems (as long as you don't color grade during post production).
Wow…M. Graham looks so vibrant. PG18 is one of my favorite greens.😮💨
Thank you for making these videos. I didn’t even know some of these would look like that and it’s so helpful to know which ones I wanted. I have QOR and it’s ok, but the M. Graham is so pleasant.
Iam very surprised you didn't have Qor's Viridian on here... Qor has the best Viridian, it's bright and vibrant, strong tinting, Highly pigmented and made with pure PG18. I have all of these shown ( except the Ken Bromley And Van gogh ) , and Qors is the best IMO, and it rewets EXTREMELY easy when you pour it fresh into a full pan ( full pans are all i use, i hate half pans lol ) to dry. It rewets instantly. Anyways, I always enjoy when you do these videos. Thanks doc 😀
that's fair enough. Looking back I am not sure why I didn't include the QoR one either. I can only apologise and put it down to human error due to trying to sort out 120 colors for the series in one go.
@@OtoKano absolutely no apologies needed at all... I know how many colors, and brands you manage and organize for your vids. I know this stuff very well myself lol, I have almost every professional artist grade watercolor brand in their full color range ( in full pans and tubes ). I've been subbed to you since you began your channel, and you always do an amazing job at what you do... you bring color to everyone's lives 😁
@@danieljamesbinderystu2968 Thank you so much for your understanding Deejay and I'll try to do better next season!
Qor is my primary viridian as well and while I love it, I find it much harder to rewet than my other Qor colors. I keep mine in a full pan as well.
Hi! Just to have a point of reference for a future purchase, you have both Qor's Viridian and M Graham's Viridian, I'm wondering if they differ in behavior in mixes?? I heard M graham has a more pronounced separation quality and was wondering if the same applied to Qor's version
I love the M. Graham Viridian. It makes wonderful natural greens in mixes with yelllows as well as some beautiful purples when mixed with Quin Rose (PV19).
I've wondered why you don't test Roman Szmal paints, too, but now I GET it! Couldn't add a pan paint's sample to the swatch cards, eh? Delightful, informative series - thank you so much for all your hard, skilled work.
I would love to try Daniel Smith's. I love granulation and i would love to see how this color reacts in mixes, especially with ultramarine blue. I've been very tempted to try their shadow violet as well, as i've seen it is a mix of two of my favorites, pyrrole orange and ultramarine blue, with viridian. So many colors, so little money lol.
Thank you, thank you, thank you! Your commentary is perfectly timed for me as I was going to be shopping for a viridian to add to my ever growing collection of 'great paints'. You have saved me a boatload of work and an enormous headache. Easy decision for me, the Winsor Newton wins for a number of reasons! Again, thank you!! I just adore your videos and admire and respect you ever so much for all of the work that you do for us. 😘😘
While I only have phthalo green, it’s interesting to see how phthalo green and viridian have very different properties yet have a somewhat similar hue
How did you determine which brands to use and which to leave out? There are a few major brands that use genuine PG18 that you didn't include, I kind of would have preferred to include those instead of the PG7 ones you left in here. Still great video and series as always!
There are lots of brands with viridian. More than the 12 that I can cover in this video. As evident in this comment section, whatever brand I picked, there would've been unhappy pepople. in the previous series, I got a lot of complains saying I only cover big brands. So I tried to include more smaller brands this season and people are unhappy. So I don't know what to do.
@@OtoKano Just keep doing what you’re doing Oto. Your videos and now your pigment database are an invaluable resource. Thank you!
@@OtoKano Indeed a hard take to edit what brands make and which don't. Thanks for your effort and for all the hard work that goes behind these videos. Do you think there are enough brands that did not make it this time around to make a Part 2 of this colour showdown? With popular colours like Viridian, it is not easy to cover them all.
I'm more of a Pthalo Green fan personally, but Viridian is still pretty. I did try a couple genuine Viridians. Just couldn't get into it. So props to all of you who can make it work for your needs.
I can’t wait to get this dot card! I want to try ALL the viridians!
Where is our lovely Schmincke version? It’s wonderful! Thanks for the comprehensive review!
that's fair enough. Looking back I am not sure why I didn't include the Schimincke one either. I can only apologise and put it down to human error due to trying to sort out 120 colors for the series in one go.
@@OtoKano Your apology is never necessary! We appreciate all of the wonderful content you produce. I reread my post and realize my passion for the Schmincke Veridian may have come across as a rant. Definitely not what I intended. I suppose anyone who watches a 12 viridian comparison with breathless anticipation might have issues, haha! 😂😂😂
Dr Oto I just got the 34 colors of the Mission Pure Pigments, and with these I certainly can understand the wonder of swatching the colors. I have to say the Cobalt Black intrigued me the most so I played with it, when it is layed down on a good amount of water it spread out and as it goes and when it drys it resembles the look of leather, too bad it doesn't smell like leather, other than horses than is one of my favorite smells. Thanks
I have the Turner Artists one and it is extremely sludgy, hard to re wet and exhibits the same oddly hard to lift properties. I just checked again, this is effected by the paper you use a lot as well. What I've been doing is periodically putting extra water onto it and since it has re-wet much better. (such as an eye dropper drop in my pallet at least once every 4 days. Currently my only genuine viridian I find it works well in custom mixes to get the viridian qualities in specialty mixes and with my more recent wetting maintenance works well. BUT it does also exhibit a harder to lift than the other genuine 'pure' pg 18s. My tube is also older and ALWAYS was hard to now incredibly hard to squeeze. all the turner artists paints are 'sludgy' but the viridian deserves the term sludgy most of all! It is legitimately hard to squeeze viridian out (you can feel the effort vs most other paints.) My tube and paint works and acts almost exactly the same as new even if the tube is at least a decade old now. As I remember noting all this about the paint immediately as is 'stood out' among the other paints as 'the most' sludgy/hard to squeeze, etc.
I got Holbein’s Viridian and I love using it. Recently I’ve been loving cobalt violet alongside with viridian for both having soft but very exciting textures and color mixing. I also tried making dupe of DS’s Moonglow, the viridian granulation is really lovely. I also have Winsor Green blue shade which is PG7 and I love it too. PG18 and PG7 behaves differently so I think I’d like having both for different uses. Now I’m considering getting W&N though Daniel Smith looks gorgeous but it’s pretty expensive and hard to find in Japan.
Holbein is my top choice so far. It will be interesting to see the next episode and whether my opinion changes!
I have and enjoy MGraham, DaVinci and winsor&newton in that order. Both MG and DV are quite easy to rewet.
I just recently got M. Graham’s Viridian because I was looking for a non-staining cool green pigment. PG7 is problematic in that regard, so I decided to give this a try. I love M. Graham paints and this is beautiful. I think I’m going to really enjoy it, although it has some strange properties that I need to get used to. It seems almost “gummy” on the palette when I’m trying to rewet it, and I’m still learning what to mix it with.
M graham re wets easily. Nice granulating color for mixing.
I really like the Daniel Smith and Holbein
I was hoping to see QOR’s version which I have and love. I’m wondering how it compares to Schmincke and Daniel Smith? Two other brands I consider a lot. But also will look into M Grahams after reading the other comments. Thanks Oto. 🙏🏽❤️
You can do the swatching tests with your tube of Qor and compare to the video. She recently swatched out the entire line of Qor paints if you want to check those out. If they didn't have a paint called "viridian" that's why she didn't select it for this comparison. I think she states that in each video
@@OhJodi69 yes! I’ve learned to love swatching and testing since discovering Oto. She’s absolutely lovely providing all this detailed info to us.
that's fair enough. Looking back I am not sure why I didn't include the QoR one either. I can only apologise and put it down to human error due to trying to sort out 120 colors for the series in one go.
I do my own swatching along with studying other’s here. I put all my swatches in a tab separated binder notebook, using those clear plastic sleeves designed for baseball card collecting. I also swatch color mixes and keep them in the notebook. It is the most valuable resource I have in my studio.
Hello! I'm wondering if anyone has information on Qor's version in comparison to M Graham?? I'm wondering if the intensity and the color separation effect is comparable
I think I know what you mean with the jelly thing, I use Aquarius viridian and it's very hard to re-wet compared to other colors from my palette and even if I soak it it's just... Kinda breaks apart?
I wanted to switch to a tube paint for this color, because I love this pigment so much, so I realy appreciate you publishing this video, it certainly helped me make decision on what to choose.
Thanks! Great information.
I currently have Schmincke. How far I don't use it very much so I'm not sure if I will replace it with anything else when it's gone...
Unpopular opinion:
I'm more for the Phthalo-based Viridian hue. It's versatile and intense, and they much matched the color of the real viridian with the intensity of Phthalo without being too overpowering.
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with liking phthalo green better than Viridian, it’s more that the phthalo isn’t a good dupe for viridian, if you want the pg18 look. Pg7 is gorgeous in its own right, but it’s not pg18! It’s the intensity that makes it problematic to call it a hue for Viridian.
Pitchforks! Torches! My kingdom for a pitchfork and a torch!
Don’t worry, I don’t own a kingdom so I’m mot getting any pitchforks or torches.
Your opinion might be “unpopular” but your entitled to it. I don’t see anything wrong with what you’ve said, although I don’t think PG7 is as weak as PG18. It’s way too intense to use without diluting.
I'll match your unpopular opinion with my own: I love W&N COTMAN Cerulean Blue Hue for skies. It's just PB 15 Phthalo Blue gs, but much less intense, and less staining. I confess there are several Cotman colors that I use with my Fancy brands of paints. And I hate Arches paper, lol Confessions!
@@OhJodi69 Oooh! Someone else hates Arches. I got it once and was greeted by a strong chemical smell and an expired surface. Never again! Time for me to chip in with an unpopular opinion: van Gogh’s Cobalt Blue Ultramarine is a particularly beautiful shade of blue. I highly recommend it.
If it helps. I hate arches paper too.
Nice timing! I've held off purchasing though as the Winsor and Newton link isn't working. I tested a couple of the others successfully. They were slow but did load vs the W&N link just went straight to 'error'....
My Turner viridian has the same hardening problem. The granulation doesn’t spread out evenly and it tends to create clumps of color at the bottom of the swatch as seen in your masstone test. However my faulty Alizarin crimson from them (binder separating) have the same clumping problem so I guess it’s may be the fault of individual tubes. Turner is not a brand I recommend anyway. Their paints are okay but your chance of getting bad tubes is too high.
Somehow you missed probably the brightest easiest to rewet PG 18 Varidian Da Vinci's D:
Ngl, I was expecting to see Roman Szmal version on the comparison too. Specially because RS is so popular these days, and for instance it could easily replace Old Holland place, which is an expensive and very "meh" brand tbh
I agree with Maimeriblu too. Their tubes are smaller but more expensive than other brands. And the quality is ...meh.
I would love when you do these to also show us the swatching
She will show mixes, salt tests, etc in the 2nd video for this color. Most of her color comparisons are done in two videos..
Why no Roman Szmal? Absolutely lovely viridian in aquarius range.
Roman Szmal got left out this time?
They don't seem to have a color called "viridian", at least not at Jackson's. She usually goes by color names, not necessarily pigments, when she chooses colors for the comparisons. I think she says this in the videos. She does have swatches for the entire line of Roman Szmal if you want to check those videos out.
@@OhJodi69 of course they have lol
@@OhJodi69 Thanks for the reply. Roman Szmal do have a Viridian shade. I purchased it from Jackson's and it's featured in Oto's Roman Szmal swatch vids. The RS version needs a bit of encouragement to get out of the pan and the shade is quite light...but it's super pretty and soft which I've come to appreciate.
Regarding Mission Gold: I don't consider them professional watercolors, but rather very good student grade paint. And the price reflects this.
I will use MG on Yupo paper or when making greeting cards. But I wouldn't use them on expensive Arches paper when I'm painting a work that will be framed.
me clicking expecting to see Schmincke because is the only version i know and the world revolves around me: 🤡
that's fair enough. Looking back I am not sure why I didn't include the Schimincke one either. I can only apologise and put it down to human error due to trying to sort out 120 colors for the series in one go.
@@OtoKano I was also wondering why Schmincke was not there, since it is a brand that is worldwide available and therefore easy to get (inline Ken Bromley, for example). Having said that, thanks for this. I struggle with viridian but am learning its value in mixes.
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How do you manage to be first on every video? I’m so impressed!
@@OtoKano Most videos, not every video 😄. I keep my tablet next to me most of the time. When I see a notification of a new video I quickly comment. If I have the time, I’ll watch the video; if not, then I make sure to watch it later in the day.
I just gave away my secret, didn’t I!