The hardest part about that move h5 is not to calculate the entire line to realize that the knight is trapped in the end. Any titled player can probably do that. The hardest part is that instead of discarding the line, you realize that you can give an entire tempo to white by playing the move h5 and there is nothing white can do with the extra tempo. So you save the knight. Incredible!
yeah any titled player can calculate that line if they know it... but thats the point, to calculate that line u need to calculate many more lines to realize that white has nothing with the extra tempo u give them, which in a practical game governed by a limited amount of time is incredibly hard. this type of move would be a challenge to magnus even and id probably estimate hed play this type of ridiculous only move in 1 out of 100 games.
I think moves where you just play a subtle improving move in the middle of an attack and just say “come at me” are some of the sickest and the hardest moves in chess
It really is an example of reverse-engineering a chess position, which is ultimately the only way to really "know" what the best move is. Chess principles are great, and calculation is better, but reverse-engineering by breaking everything down move-by-move (backwards) is an amazing analytical tool and one that unfortunately humans are not the best at OTB. Granted I think with computers and videos like this humans can get better at it over time, but that's basically the reason that stockfish will still destroy the best human players on the planet - because of its tremendous ability to do precisely this.
@@Kuribohdudalala I dunno, it may be hindsight bias but there's a clear logical sequence to think of that move. So it feels like in a classical match a good gm could find it, but maybe I am overestimating them.
I love how in other runs Danya sometimes says he missed a move and chat immediately goes to cheating. Those aren't the kind of moves you accuse someone of cheating. Its when someone plays h5 in that position. The sheer amount of calc needed to justify that one move is bonkers.
Amazing video. Loved how these are both hard to find and calculable at relatively low depth. They basically require you to play extremely cold blooded. Love it.
@@riccardozanoni2531 That's a bit much but the depth is surprisingly low. Its easier to calculate 6 moves ahead in 6-10 different positions than it is to calculate 36 moves ahead in a single line. At least for me it is. Its the same principle with these moves, they are entirely achievable given a calm head and experience plus they are also positions that are entirely reasonable which means even if you don't find yourself in an identical situation you'll likely find yourself in 1 that rhymes which can help to look at candidate moves you wouldn't otherwise calculate for.
@@hellopleychess3190 Idk, I personally always found it easier to calculate a bunch of short lines than the equivalent in a single line of depth. Maybe that's just me though. Usually calculating particularly deep is only really easy for me when most of the line is forcing.
I am relatively new to chess. "Reverse Engineering" is a concept I learned watching your videos. This concept has "leveled up" my chess. Much gratitutde.
This was incredible. I usually just watch the speed runs but this was so interesting and really shows the beauty of the game. Also love the passion of chess you can tell that you love the game! Would like to see more of these in future when possible
Slowly but surely Danya has become the most helpful and most informative chess RUclipsr on the entire platform. Not for openings (everyone does the openings), but things like his pawn endgames etc are truly game changers for people at my level.
No the ads are a huge detriment to learning. They break the flow of the video. It's like interrupting yourself when you're talking giving a class. If you feel Danya should be compensated more, then patreon is the way. Unfortunately, patreon does not have the capacity to remove ads, so then you gotta watch that crap either way. Stupid system. The only logical thing to do is adblock them out.
8:33 wow! I saw fragments of this including the white rook to d1, with the queen then moving to h3...but failed to realize no rush as it was nearly zug for white. (Rd1 only pushes her where she wants to go) So you would have had to calculate the entire thing, then realizing it didn't work go back to the beginning - ! - and eureka for finding white nearly zug, so only then planning it out with the pawn advance as first of the sequence. I'm starting to think chess is played literally backwards.
Hi Danya, loved this analysis. I'm looking forward to your next end game lesson here : ) also, are you planning to convert any or your books to Chessable format (as a course)?
Anand-Kamsky game is brilliant but engine lines are something beyond that. Although after Danya's thorough explanations, which was great by the way, engine lines make sense to a human mind: "OK, this is still a chess game" :D.
On the first position I swear i was thinking of h5 as the best move as you were saying that it was a settle move but obviously had no idea why it’s the best move, so i guess I should start competing in tournament relying on my instincts
16:14 why can't black move the king to e8, toward the A file? doesn't that prevent a draw, the king moves to the rook and white has to give up a tempo? is it because black can take the pawn on g7? that doesn't seem like a very big deal, and gives black time to take the bishop.
Well, you started by hinting of a pawn move and h5 was the only serious option. In my nooby brain I saw the tension on b4 and I thought: bring another attacker. Qh3 didn't even occur to me at that point.
I think I could have found the the pawn push move by sheer luck and luckily it would have worked, however i definitely would not find because I saw the line. I would possibly have made the move for a silly reason like to add another defender to the f4 square and prevent the white white knight moving there, basically just shutting down squares surrounding the king. Is that a bad way to think?
The only disappointment when I see a Naroditsky video in my subscription feed is seeing a measly 21 minutes! Haha but, no, seriously, keep up the great work Daniel and make whatever length suits the algorithm! Just keep the content coming.
Has Daniel announced when he will resume his endgame series. Not that he owes us anything but a couple of months back he made it seem like he was going to be uploading regularly there and now it's been quite a while.
The crazy part is you need to calculate the whole line to see that the knight is trapped at the end of it, then you need to calculate the fact that you can give white a free tempo and they still wouldn't have a move that saves them. You might instinctively think that pushing the pawn is a good idea as it could contribute to the attack in the long term, but at their level they need to play a move after through calculations.
Yeah, when he showed the final position without the move, I saw it immediately, but then you have to go back and calculate all the possible responses to that and there are a lot. No way could I ever calculate that in a game
I don't quite understand why Naroditsky says it's unfindable for a human. Aren't grandmasters capable of seeing the chessboard in their mind? If so, can't they follow lines as deeply as they need? I mean this is a complex position but he managed to show all relevant lines in twenty minutes, and they all made sense. So couldn't a gm see them all in his mind if he has say hal an hour on the clock or more?
its not easy, there may have beenother candidate moves that were losing on the spot in many of the variations , but those would perhaps have required 2-3 moves extra to calculate, and those can branch too, in a position such as black, you are on the cusp of losing and therefore making a mistake is unaffordable and it is required for yoj to look through all these lines and decide which gives best chances. Naroditsky showed best moves in each variation which make sense because they are engine moves and we can look back on them with hindsight 20/20 and say yeah obviously and just blitz through all the variations he shows on vid but OTB u need to consider it all. You are also probably fatigued depending on the conditions of the tournament.
4:10 Black’s attack has reached a « COLDESAC » … That’s funny! In French, we say CUL-DE-SAC, which litterally means « bottom of a bag ». CUL means a**, but it’s been used a long time ago as an « OK » word when it meant « end/bottom of something, like a bag, a bottle… » SAC is a bag. Today, we use CUL-DE-SAC most often to describe some kind of streets, but also like Danya did, to talk about something that’s got a dead-end. Nice word 😄
In English we also say "cul-de-sac" for closed streets and dead end situation. Like many phrases its been borrowed from French. English language borrows from many languages...
I absolutely don't claim that this was anything to do with ability, but I said h5 for that first position after like 30 seconds just sheerly because it looked like the most useless move haha
The hardest part about that move h5 is not to calculate the entire line to realize that the knight is trapped in the end. Any titled player can probably do that. The hardest part is that instead of discarding the line, you realize that you can give an entire tempo to white by playing the move h5 and there is nothing white can do with the extra tempo. So you save the knight.
Incredible!
yeah any titled player can calculate that line if they know it... but thats the point, to calculate that line u need to calculate many more lines to realize that white has nothing with the extra tempo u give them, which in a practical game governed by a limited amount of time is incredibly hard. this type of move would be a challenge to magnus even and id probably estimate hed play this type of ridiculous only move in 1 out of 100 games.
I think moves where you just play a subtle improving move in the middle of an attack and just say “come at me” are some of the sickest and the hardest moves in chess
@@Kuribohdudalala the quiet moves get me going the most too
It really is an example of reverse-engineering a chess position, which is ultimately the only way to really "know" what the best move is. Chess principles are great, and calculation is better, but reverse-engineering by breaking everything down move-by-move (backwards) is an amazing analytical tool and one that unfortunately humans are not the best at OTB. Granted I think with computers and videos like this humans can get better at it over time, but that's basically the reason that stockfish will still destroy the best human players on the planet - because of its tremendous ability to do precisely this.
Got to meet and chat briefly with Danya at the US open. What a nice guy! Really enjoyed watching his games
Me too
The anti-Hikaru
If these games had been played today the crowd would go "BLUNDER!!" when the players failed to find those "obvious" moves.
Only those who find the eval bar more interesting than the board position
they should just not show the engine eval on broadcasts
I don’t think people would do that. If anything it would just bring more hype to the broadcast to see these crazy options in the position
Danya: passionately explaining beautiful ideas discovered in 1994 Anand - Kamsky candidates game
Twitch chat: this is antiquated
maybe the chatter wasn't a native English speaker and meant to say it aged well or something
@@jammerlammer546 maybe it was antiquated
@@silverfox389 Antiquated in the chess sense would mean the position is old and no longer useful which isn't true.
@@DragonBank it's true
@@silverfox389 lol were you the chatter
These ideas are next level. Forget quiet moves, these are vacuum of space moves.
H5 is an insanely satisfying move when you know those moves that deep. If I was to ever find that over the board I would think I solved chess
I don’t think Magnus could find h5
@@Kuribohdudalala I dunno, it may be hindsight bias but there's a clear logical sequence to think of that move. So it feels like in a classical match a good gm could find it, but maybe I am overestimating them.
Danya explains chess better than anyone on earth.
I love how in other runs Danya sometimes says he missed a move and chat immediately goes to cheating. Those aren't the kind of moves you accuse someone of cheating. Its when someone plays h5 in that position. The sheer amount of calc needed to justify that one move is bonkers.
Exactly! Every now and again, anyone can find a move launching the attack or stopping the attack. Weird engine moves are something else entirely.
Amazing video. Loved how these are both hard to find and calculable at relatively low depth. They basically require you to play extremely cold blooded. Love it.
I mean, the first one kind of requires you to calculate 30 different lines
@@riccardozanoni2531
That's a bit much but the depth is surprisingly low. Its easier to calculate 6 moves ahead in 6-10 different positions than it is to calculate 36 moves ahead in a single line. At least for me it is. Its the same principle with these moves, they are entirely achievable given a calm head and experience plus they are also positions that are entirely reasonable which means even if you don't find yourself in an identical situation you'll likely find yourself in 1 that rhymes which can help to look at candidate moves you wouldn't otherwise calculate for.
@@SomeGuy1117 learning to calculate deep I think is much easier than learning to calculate many different shorter variations with no holes
@@hellopleychess3190
Idk, I personally always found it easier to calculate a bunch of short lines than the equivalent in a single line of depth. Maybe that's just me though. Usually calculating particularly deep is only really easy for me when most of the line is forcing.
@@SomeGuy1117 then you probably start forgetting the position when calculating long
I am relatively new to chess. "Reverse Engineering" is a concept I learned watching your videos. This concept has "leveled up" my chess. Much gratitutde.
This was incredible. I usually just watch the speed runs but this was so interesting and really shows the beauty of the game. Also love the passion of chess you can tell that you love the game! Would like to see more of these in future when possible
Danya uploads at 11:30 pm on a Sunday when everyone has to go work in the morning? Fuck work I’m playing chess.
This thumbnail is EVERYTHING!! hope your doing well in the us open danya
This is exactly what I needed right now. I hope to see another game soon!
Incredible resources explained so clearly. Love these videos! Thanks Danya.
This is one of the coolest chess videos out there
Slowly but surely Danya has become the most helpful and most informative chess RUclipsr on the entire platform. Not for openings (everyone does the openings), but things like his pawn endgames etc are truly game changers for people at my level.
This is one of the best videos I’ve ever seen!
Whatever the ads pay for for this it’s not enough. Best teacher (not just for chess) ever
No the ads are a huge detriment to learning. They break the flow of the video. It's like interrupting yourself when you're talking giving a class.
If you feel Danya should be compensated more, then patreon is the way.
Unfortunately, patreon does not have the capacity to remove ads, so then you gotta watch that crap either way. Stupid system. The only logical thing to do is adblock them out.
8:33 wow!
I saw fragments of this including the white rook to d1, with the queen then moving to h3...but failed to realize no rush as it was nearly zug for white. (Rd1 only pushes her where she wants to go)
So you would have had to calculate the entire thing, then realizing it didn't work go back to the beginning - ! - and eureka for finding white nearly zug, so only then planning it out with the pawn advance as first of the sequence.
I'm starting to think chess is played literally backwards.
you dont know what zugzwang is
@@Wtahc what a useless thing to say. Watch the video
@@Wtahc you also dont know what the word "nearly" means
@@KF1 you dont know what zugzwang is
@@jere3604 you dont know what zugzwang is
Danya is a perfect specimen
That's quite a compliment my man
😳
@@unknowny5920 it is what it is. Truth always reveals itself.
You are doing great videos lately ! I really enjoy the original concepts
Hi Danya, loved this analysis. I'm looking forward to your next end game lesson here : ) also, are you planning to convert any or your books to Chessable format (as a course)?
That would be brilliant!
his books are meant to be books, not chessable courses
@@hellopleychess3190 You do understand the definition of the word "convert" dint you? Or are you too pretentious and everything must be a book?
mind candy
Thank you for these amazing analyses Danya, this kind of ideas always makes me tingle with excitement
Damn I thought of Anand as a boring player. Didn't know he had played such crazy games in his days. Epic.
Real Danya hours whomst up
2:04 good company slogan "The King Side: Where S*** Is Happening"
Please do more of these
Great vid!
wow amazing puzzle!! Thanks for Sharing
Wouldn't mind a pause in the speedrun for this kind of content! That was very interesting.
Simply amazing!!!
I like after the first puzzle is shows when he says "This is chess!"
awesome stuff
Favourite chess streamer to watch. The enthusiasm for the game is fantastic
Fantastic instruction, Danya. Good shxt!
perfectly explained!
The absolute beauty of the game here.
Amazing. Makes me feel a bit dumb as a normal human being
Please more of these kind of contents(insane ideas gennerated by the engine)
Amazing studies and beautiful chess!
Anand-Kamsky game is brilliant but engine lines are something beyond that. Although after Danya's thorough explanations, which was great by the way, engine lines make sense to a human mind: "OK, this is still a chess game" :D.
15:58 WOOP
On the first position I swear i was thinking of h5 as the best move as you were saying that it was a settle move but obviously had no idea why it’s the best move, so i guess I should start competing in tournament relying on my instincts
thats the thing he gave u the hint that its a suttle move but in a practical game, any top GM will not give up a tempo because of there instinct.
16:14 why can't black move the king to e8, toward the A file? doesn't that prevent a draw, the king moves to the rook and white has to give up a tempo? is it because black can take the pawn on g7? that doesn't seem like a very big deal, and gives black time to take the bishop.
more of these please!!!
woah what a relief when you said that even magnus can't figure out this move 😍
Stunning video. Wow
Ok in position 2 at 14:07, before Danya gives a hint I'm sealing in Ne5 as my guess.
Damn I love chess, and I love Danya!
Amazing!!!
Well, you started by hinting of a pawn move and h5 was the only serious option. In my nooby brain I saw the tension on b4 and I thought: bring another attacker. Qh3 didn't even occur to me at that point.
I don't know about others, but the Carnot Cycle is my favorite engine ideal.
Peter Svidler on h5 : "I think its findable"
I think I could have found the the pawn push move by sheer luck and luckily it would have worked, however i definitely would not find because I saw the line. I would possibly have made the move for a silly reason like to add another defender to the f4 square and prevent the white white knight moving there, basically just shutting down squares surrounding the king. Is that a bad way to think?
This was like watching a movie
yoooo this is sick!
really cool vid.
This is epic!!!
As a 1600 average I'm feeling OMG 😳 after seeing ds calculation.
The only disappointment when I see a Naroditsky video in my subscription feed is seeing a measly 21 minutes!
Haha but, no, seriously, keep up the great work Daniel and make whatever length suits the algorithm! Just keep the content coming.
i found it immediately, looks natural to me
Good video
yess
Where can I find more puzzles like this?
Has Daniel announced when he will resume his endgame series. Not that he owes us anything but a couple of months back he made it seem like he was going to be uploading regularly there and now it's been quite a while.
Yeah, Hans and his computer
Would bishop B3 instead of F4 work as well?
Yassssssss Danya yaaaaaassssss
Are you going to participate in the 2023 US Open? It's in Michigan (my home state) this year.
Hans would find h5
Hehehe, he sure would
20:40 Hans Niemann in the chat!
yes, you did (like usual) a decent job 👍
I wonder which GMs could find this move, given the position as a tactical challenge.
Can we please have more videos if this?
Just one word "Awesome"
But... how did you find these? It would be wonderful to get lessons/training on Chessbase use. Or does that reveal the chef's secret sauce ;)
I thought after "I'll be right back", video ends.
Impressive.
the moment you said this move is unfindeable i thaught abouy h5
Another brilliant Pawn move like that is Anands h6 against Lautier :D And Anand found ist because hes a god lol
“This is chess!”
Was this streamed yesterday?
This is how we 900 players calculate 1700 puzzles
Thanks Danya for sharing, appreciate it!
Puzzle rating (on chess.com at least) is nowhere close to the same as blitz or rapid or bullet rating for anyone.
What's so crazy about Moving a pawn into a row behind where all your minor pieces are swarming a king
That's not why it's the best move tho?
The crazy part is you need to calculate the whole line to see that the knight is trapped at the end of it, then you need to calculate the fact that you can give white a free tempo and they still wouldn't have a move that saves them.
You might instinctively think that pushing the pawn is a good idea as it could contribute to the attack in the long term, but at their level they need to play a move after through calculations.
Danya, just watching your computer rip at 13mil moves per second, what’s your rig?
I might have played h5 just to deny Horsey that square!
Danya was coaching Hans Niemann?
Still don't want to boss you around, but what's up with the endgame series ?
If you give that position to some beginners, they would not understand what to do and play a random pawn move(h5)😆😆
Bf4! Subscribed
The second you see the move... holy macaroni
Yeah, when he showed the final position without the move, I saw it immediately, but then you have to go back and calculate all the possible responses to that and there are a lot. No way could I ever calculate that in a game
W Danya
I don't quite understand why Naroditsky says it's unfindable for a human. Aren't grandmasters capable of seeing the chessboard in their mind? If so, can't they follow lines as deeply as they need? I mean this is a complex position but he managed to show all relevant lines in twenty minutes, and they all made sense. So couldn't a gm see them all in his mind if he has say hal an hour on the clock or more?
its not easy, there may have beenother candidate moves that were losing on the spot in many of the variations , but those would perhaps have required 2-3 moves extra to calculate, and those can branch too, in a position such as black, you are on the cusp of losing and therefore making a mistake is unaffordable and it is required for yoj to look through all these lines and decide which gives best chances. Naroditsky showed best moves in each variation which make sense because they are engine moves and we can look back on them with hindsight 20/20 and say yeah obviously and just blitz through all the variations he shows on vid but OTB u need to consider it all. You are also probably fatigued depending on the conditions of the tournament.
4:10 Black’s attack has reached a « COLDESAC » … That’s funny! In French, we say CUL-DE-SAC, which litterally means « bottom of a bag ».
CUL means a**, but it’s been used a long time ago as an « OK » word when it meant « end/bottom of something, like a bag, a bottle… »
SAC is a bag.
Today, we use CUL-DE-SAC most often to describe some kind of streets, but also like Danya did, to talk about something that’s got a dead-end.
Nice word 😄
In English we also say "cul-de-sac" for closed streets and dead end situation. Like many phrases its been borrowed from French. English language borrows from many languages...
@@Copyuyo I figured it out while looking for English example, and I found it quite interesting that the word has become COLDESAC (COL means COLLAR) 😃
I guessed h5 but that calculation definitely wasn’t my reason
Me a 1200: hmm yes I agree
I absolutely don't claim that this was anything to do with ability, but I said h5 for that first position after like 30 seconds just sheerly because it looked like the most useless move haha
My jaw dropped