John Dorsey drafted Kelce, Mahomes, Hunt, Tyreek Hill, Chris Jones and built KC into a powerhouse. He came here for two years and drastically infused talent through free agency and the draft that we are still benefitting from. He got released here and went to Detroit and built that team into a Super Bowl contender. How does DePodesta and Berry look now?
No one is going to combat that because it's nothing but facts. Cleveland fans fell for the narrative that "everything was Bakers fault and he's not good enough", the same guy who provided 32 wins in 4 years as "the guy" when prior to Baker it took 9 years for Cleveland to accumulate 32 wins total (2008-2017). The Cleveland Browns must be the poorest ran organization in all of organized american sports.
Fire Depodesta and Berry and get John Dorsey back asap. That's when the ship started to sink. He helped build KC, also helped build the Browns, and now he's helping build the Lions..... The Resume speaks for itself... The Depodesta over Dorsey move was Jimmy's biggest mistake. 💯
eh.. letting dorsey hire freddie kitchens as hc was a pretty bad move in hindsight. drafting baker is still yet to be determined given his career resurgence as many on here will lead you to believe. dorsey is good at rebuilding teams and leaving to rebuild another.
Jimmy Haslem is a genius! He chased Baker out of town and then made the worst trade in sports history. Well done 👏 Also, getting rid of John Dorsey was a huge mistake.
@Chet: IKR! I mean who gets rid of a QB that helped get the Browns to the post (for the first time in 18 seasons), winning the first round and advancing? Haslam and Berry do! Who signs a QB to a ridiculous $230 MILLION contract that has never been to, or better yet, won a Conference Championship game? Haslam and Berry do! Meanwhile, Baker is going to the post "again", he is ranked #4, and he has a 104.1 rtg! Rocks are more football intelligent than Haslam and Berry.
@MGB-302 outstanding comment. I listen to the Ultimate sports show to hear paid idiocy. I wonder where the show come from. Why does this combination of commentators come from?
I've 60 years a fan and Stefanski needs to go to show the owners how eff'd up they are when they try to replace him. Stefanski is being stepped on by the garbage he has over him
Losing record after 5 years, no playoff wins, no imagination or personality, Baker is better without him, Cousins was better without him and Watson was elite his WHOLE life until Stefunsky. Mediocre as it gets.
The conversation you guys had at the 47 minute mark is why I’ve been advocating for a new indoor stadium, with a new team name, and new team colors… We need a fresh start, not to be rooting for a team named after the Father of another teams owner who had success here 100 years ago. I’m done, the Ravens are the true Browns. Let’s start over, new some, new colors, new name.
Jason saying he's not watching the last few games was a stake in tge heart! I've never missed watching a Browns game EVER! ... and I'm 71 y/o. It's called loyalty and love.... I complain with the best if them, but NEVER considered abandonment! ... You're Out, not the Browns!
how about it? they are 8-6 and probably will not go much further than they did last year. glad mayfield is doing well.. but let it go. he is long gone.
@@titansrule72: 8-6 is much better than the Browns/Titans "last place" 3-11! lol. Be that as it may, Baker is doing much better than just well. He's ranked #4, has a 104.1 rtg, and he's going to the post "again".
Baker is better than all of the past QB's. The Browns have had low-end QBs forever. Better talent drafting is required No one in the house can draft a beer worthy of drinking, let alone football talent.
They fired the offensive coaches. Should have fired Kevin. It’s over. Start it again. I’m 69. Stop gaslighting me. All of u. Including the front office. I could draft better than the youngest gm in the nfl…he’s been here for five years. Stop. My 6000 dollars of tickets are done. It only took me 50 years to figure this out. I’m an idiot
Baker was this organizations saving grace and was treated like he was nothing and somehow is still treated like he was nothing i dont get it i really dont
Moneyball was a system developed for baseball. How it was implemented for football was up to DePodesta. The Watson trade was going to dominate the Browns future one way or another. If DePodesta did not drive that deal, he isn't doing anything.
All Moneyball really did was to create a higher salary for players that had a large on base percentage, which at the time was a way undervalued stat. I know Jay gets a lot of hate here from people, but as he mentions it also gets overlooked that that A’s team also had some legit players on it too. It wasn’t all misfits
Moneyball strategies are nonsense when applied to football as football seasons are much shorter than baseballs. Jimmy Hasbeen hiring Depotestical, Dingleberry, and Preventski as well as letting them convince him to go after DW4 shows he's clueless.
@@MS-1 Value models like Moneyball are useful tools. They account for a finite number of variables that are supposed to be the most important. If they grossly underestimate the importance of a variable, they provide erroneous answers. Watson's strength in Houston was his ability to extend plays and make plays out of structure. The emergence of dominant edge rushers prevents Watson from doing this and his value evaporated.
Useful in football when it started in baseball? (It should have no influence on a GM's decision in trades and drafts and, it has be proven here pushing for DW4 for an epic fail). @@Clay_F
I so badly want to keep watching, but every show there is someone CLEARING THEIR THROAT THE ENTIRE SHOW!! Can someone please give this person a cough button??
Jay posits “is this worse than 0-16.” Of course Lloyd has to pipe in “I said that last week.” We know, Jason, you are all knowing and you constantly want us to know that you said something in the past that ended up being right. Man.
He’s so cool cause he doesn’t care and he’s “dead inside” I wish I could be as cool and aloof as him he’s so cool guys do you know how cool he is cause he doesn’t care that’s how you know he’s cool
The team was literally just in the playoffs last year with 5 different QBs and fans are acting like the team has been losing for the past decade. Bunch of crybabies.
Browns should have traded anyone they could get #1 and #2 round picks for Garret,Ward for sure. But they are dumb, that’s why they are in this situation. This organization has been dumb for over 50 years straight. I wish they would fold and go out of business
56:02 I CANNOT believe you guys still haven’t learned your lesson. Did you learn NOTHING from the baker/deshuan debacle??? The QB IS NOT THE WHOLE TEAM FFS!!!! He is a PIECE of the team. An IMPORTANT piece. But he can’t be everything!! Even your examples can’t do that. Look at Joe Burrow right now. Putting up MVP numbers and his team is likely out of the playoffs. This notion of the “perfect QB” that will save you from all of your sins is just a fantasy that’s never gonna happen. Eventually you’ll have to look in the mirror and realize the organization and staff/culture are the keys that unlock the elite QB potential to win. Without that, he’s just an elite QB with a losing record, like Joe Burrow. Look at the Lions, who you mentioned. They’re everything you guys want to be, and they’re doing it with a QB that I guarantee you all would throw right under the bus with Baker and anyone else you consider “not good enough”!!
@garythefunster since we are in cap hell with no way out until 2027, we need to leverage our assets for the future. Garrett is a HOF DE, but he is not winning us any games.
The Browns are such a mess, I doubt you can get a coach to come and take on this disaster. At least not a coach worth having. Your almost as stuck with Kevin as much as Watson
Imagine Berry blowing another top draft pick. He sucks period and nobody can explain him unable to draft a single impact player. Stupid turnovers, lack of discpline, bad talent evaluation and sucking at draft time making stupid trades are the hallmark of Andy Berry and Pauley Depodesti. Just cause these 2 idiots went to Ivy League schools doesn't make either of them smart cause they aren't and prove it consistently. This is exactly the team Pauley and dumbazz Andy built for Hue Jackson too. Same B rowns same Dawg crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Any fan could outdraft the Cleveland Browns front office and Jackazz Jimmy and Dirty Dee Haslam that traded everything away for a creep that abused at least 27 people. Berry's stupid requirement all qbs be black was perhaps the dumbewst, racist thing from A Strategy VP and GM.
1:33:20.-I disagree with Jay on that point, the Browns defense IS playing well, but, it's not the defense' job to score points. That's solely the offense' job. Even the best defense cannot always cover for offensive ineptitude.
Was in Charlotte a few weeks ago. They had a million caps for every team. There where 2 option for the Browns. Even the jets had a better selection. I got a buffalo dad cap… I’m not sure I’m a fan but … I got the cap. 🥴
Browns miss AVP. I think AVP was a big part of the reason Browns got a lot out of QBs. Aaron Rodgers and Andy Dalton both have a high opinion of him. Dorsey has been a disaster this year.
My suggestion is Jimmy Haslem should go talk to John Dorsey. Hire Dorsey as your Chief Strategy Officer or V.P. of Football Operations. Make Depodesta a consultant or just release him of his duties. Let Dorsey evaluate Berry and Stefanski for a year to see if he wants to keep them or not.
Year after year after year, changes need made...nothing is going to change regardless of who is in the front office or coaching....until the "losing culture "is fixed the cliché maybe next year will Bea thing of the past......not holding my breath....city is cursed..
My father has been a fan of the Browns for over 75 years! I don't know how many more season he has left. For him for not have a championship during the Super Bowl ERA during his life is a shame! Berry is garbage
Your Pops got to enjoy the Browns Dynasty when he was a kid. They were a Pro Football Powerhouse back then! The Browns went to 10 World Championships "in a row", winning 7 of the 10. The main problem with the Browns has been poor ownership since 1961.
@@MGB-302I am old enough to remember Browns winning NFL Championship 60 years ago, December 27, 1964. Even if they never win a Super Bowl while I’m here, I can always say that I remember when they were the best team in the NFL. It was a glorious feeling, even if I never again experience it.
@@frederickrapp5396: Art SCUMdell bought that NFL Championship in '64. Yeah, it still counts, but nonetheless. But there is no denying that the Browns heyday was from '46-'55. The McBride/Jones/Paul Brown era Browns produced 7 World Championships.
To all Browns fans You support losing. When teams like Atlanta or Miami or Houston Texans lose no fans support them which forces the owner to put a winning product on the field. Are owner is building a dome Stadium off of y’all misery let that sink in. Drama and losing is what this fan base support.. so the owner do not have to put a winning product on the field
@ my point so all them years losing and yet still made money 💰 and next year the lions can go 3 and 14 and still make millions off the fans. Point is the fans is the problem because your support is to loyal to the Browns which means they making money of your misery whether they’re winning or losing we and the Detroit lions been losing more than winning. they do have to do something to keep the fan interested. You see the hope they gave the bengals fans where are they at now and still making money of the fans misery. Fans the problem and till y’all stop supporting losing then the owner loses and he either going to put a winner on the field or sell the team. But it starts with you as a died hard fan.
The only one that needs to be fired. Is that crook that’s the owner of the team and that’s Jimmy has them the team is never going to be a decent team until he’s gone.
Is it that bad that young people dont buy into the browns automatically? If fans dont automatically buy in and spend money on a shit franchise it forcess them to either get good or leave.
It’s not bad but it’s definitely different than it used to be, like they talked about. Young fans aren’t attached just by geography they can follow teams virally. So it’s not bad for the fans but for the browns? Definitely not good news
and if they know what they are doing.. they will have done a quick rebuild with the draft capital they acquire during that time. otherwise.. why did the nfl ever allow cleveland to have a franchise after 1995?
Until the worst ownership in all of professional sports is replaced, the Browns will be mired in mediocrity, at best. Stefanski is NOT the problem, as he can only coach up what he's given.
@@someperson8151 exactly... playing madden does not make you a coach nor a gm. it sucks being a browns fan.. but no way the knee jerk reactions will ever do this team good. it is just going to suck until they browns have an owner who is not a schmuck like haslam or lerner.
you take the best available in the draft and resign winston. make it known that he is qb1 from the getgo until that albatross of a watson contract is in the rear view. you will have to say gbye to chubb and garrett as their time in cleveland is probably winding down. otherwise.. ride it out until you get the dome in brook park - hopefully by then they will have drafted a future qb1 to be excited about.
So Jay wants to switch teams. What's the point? I've been a fan for 60 years. Still won't switch. It's in my heart and soul. Too late to switch. That's why you see so many squealer fans in Ohio. They pick them because they are always good year after year. They can't handle being made fun of for rooting for a loser organization. Can't make fun of a squealer fan now can you?
Lets Get A REAL TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! For what we HAVE! Who will do this! Is it right! Dress me all white or black ! The outside looks of a uniform does not matter! The person that plays their game is! Lets Play the Nitty football with real players like Myles G. Listen to Myles ! He Needs a Superbowl for CLEVELAND . Follow M.G mentality and u will succeed!
too bad browns fans cannot root for baltimore in that case. i remember a few friends in high school who did just that and it just looked weird as hell when they wore ravens merch in our ne ohio high school. their logic was that it was the same org.. just a diff city.
We are the team of The top castle of the universe if u look outside the box! Bigfoot and uaps everywere! That is what is Clevelands all about a mystery wins forever!
John Dorsey drafted Kelce, Mahomes, Hunt, Tyreek Hill, Chris Jones and built KC into a powerhouse. He came here for two years and drastically infused talent through free agency and the draft that we are still benefitting from. He got released here and went to Detroit and built that team into a Super Bowl contender. How does DePodesta and Berry look now?
No one is going to combat that because it's nothing but facts. Cleveland fans fell for the narrative that "everything was Bakers fault and he's not good enough", the same guy who provided 32 wins in 4 years as "the guy" when prior to Baker it took 9 years for Cleveland to accumulate 32 wins total (2008-2017). The Cleveland Browns must be the poorest ran organization in all of organized american sports.
Fire Depodesta and Berry and get John Dorsey back asap.
That's when the ship started to sink.
He helped build KC, also helped build the Browns, and now he's helping build the Lions..... The Resume speaks for itself...
The Depodesta over Dorsey move was Jimmy's biggest mistake. 💯
eh.. letting dorsey hire freddie kitchens as hc was a pretty bad move in hindsight. drafting baker is still yet to be determined given his career resurgence as many on here will lead you to believe. dorsey is good at rebuilding teams and leaving to rebuild another.
Baker has 32 Touchdowns and Watson didn't do that and they kicked Baker to the curb to get Watson 😂😂😂😂
Jimmy Haslem is a genius! He chased Baker out of town and then made the worst trade in sports history. Well done 👏
Also, getting rid of John Dorsey was a huge mistake.
Someone with some common sense in the comment section I see. 😂
Stefunsky tortured Baker on purpose...oh, you're hurt? Well throw the ball 50 times a game while Chubb is on the sidelines... Kev the mid sucks
@Chet: IKR! I mean who gets rid of a QB that helped get the Browns to the post (for the first time in 18 seasons), winning the first round and advancing? Haslam and Berry do! Who signs a QB to a ridiculous $230 MILLION contract that has never been to, or better yet, won a Conference Championship game? Haslam and Berry do! Meanwhile, Baker is going to the post "again", he is ranked #4, and he has a 104.1 rtg! Rocks are more football intelligent than Haslam and Berry.
@MGB-302 outstanding comment.
I listen to the Ultimate sports show to hear paid idiocy.
I wonder where the show come from. Why does this combination of commentators come from?
@@joemajor1156: I listen to the show for the same reason you do. You and I would be better commentators. lol.
Baker is about to go to the Super Bowl this year.......time to COPE fellas!!!
he's beating 2 of the following on the road in minnesota / detroit / green bay / philly?
I've 60 years a fan and Stefanski needs to go to show the owners how eff'd up they are when they try to replace him. Stefanski is being stepped on by the garbage he has over him
Losing record after 5 years, no playoff wins, no imagination or personality, Baker is better without him, Cousins was better without him and Watson was elite his WHOLE life until Stefunsky. Mediocre as it gets.
@@Nite2012MareThank you
Stefanski did choose DW4.....he has even admitted it.
Wrong.
@garythefunster Stefanski has said it out of his own mouth.
The conversation you guys had at the 47 minute mark is why I’ve been advocating for a new indoor stadium, with a new team name, and new team colors… We need a fresh start, not to be rooting for a team named after the Father of another teams owner who had success here 100 years ago. I’m done, the Ravens are the true Browns. Let’s start over, new some, new colors, new name.
When you have three quarterbacks you have NO QUARTERBACK !!
Jason saying he's not watching the last few games was a stake in tge heart! I've never missed watching a Browns game EVER! ... and I'm 71 y/o. It's called loyalty and love.... I complain with the best if them, but NEVER considered abandonment! ... You're Out, not the Browns!
Go Browns!!! I never miss a game even when I lived in Denver and had to watch games via espn play by play. Nothing tops a browns win!
I was in the army over seas for 0-16 and 1-15 and I still watched every game.
How about Baker Mayfield's performance yesterday against the #1 scoring defense in the league yesterday? 😂
how about it? they are 8-6 and probably will not go much further than they did last year. glad mayfield is doing well.. but let it go. he is long gone.
@@titansrule72: 8-6 is much better than the Browns/Titans "last place" 3-11! lol.
Be that as it may, Baker is doing much better than just well. He's ranked #4, has a 104.1 rtg, and he's going to the post "again".
@@MGB-302 right and hes going to lose again. hes proven that much like lamar jackson and josh allen.. he cannot win the big one.
@@MGB-302 hes essentially a more talented ryan fitzpatrick.
@@titansrule72: I guess we'll see Miss Cleo. lol.
Baker is better than all of the past QB's. The Browns have had low-end QBs forever.
Better talent drafting is required
No one in the house can draft a beer worthy of drinking, let alone football talent.
And each time they shut on him he goes out and balls while the Browns embarrass themselves. They don’t get it
STOP FIRING EVERYONE WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE A QUARTERBACK
exactly!!
He's had several ... Stop defending a mediocre coach 🙄
they are responsible for not having a QB
They fired the offensive coaches. Should have fired Kevin. It’s over. Start it again. I’m 69. Stop gaslighting me. All of u. Including the front office. I could draft better than the youngest gm in the nfl…he’s been here for five years. Stop. My 6000 dollars of tickets are done. It only took me 50 years to figure this out. I’m an idiot
@@Titus.The_Crucifier Baker wasn't and isn't destroyed. Baker is dominating. Cleveland is Dumbinating.
Baker was this organizations saving grace and was treated like he was nothing and somehow is still treated like he was nothing i dont get it i really dont
He was not
@@garythefunster won you 🫏s a playoff game
They are just in denial cause the truth is too painful to acknowledge lol
McNuggets, can you PLEASE say “Groundhog Day?” It’s not “groundhogs or groundhog’s” day! Do you also say “visa-versa” instead of “vice-versa?”
Get rid of Chubb, Garrett, and Njoku to save their careers and start over.
Man jay does not stop talking 😭
Gotta agree that was the best Jay line I think I’ve heard on this show. Hilarious.
I can't understand Jay with all that sloppy gagging
Whatever happened to that strange RB coach Stump Mitchell that left bussin strays at Kareem Hunt??
Moneyball was a system developed for baseball. How it was implemented for football was up to DePodesta. The Watson trade was going to dominate the Browns future one way or another. If DePodesta did not drive that deal, he isn't doing anything.
All Moneyball really did was to create a higher salary for players that had a large on base percentage, which at the time was a way undervalued stat. I know Jay gets a lot of hate here from people, but as he mentions it also gets overlooked that that A’s team also had some legit players on it too. It wasn’t all misfits
Moneyball strategies are nonsense when applied to football as football seasons are much shorter than baseballs.
Jimmy Hasbeen hiring Depotestical, Dingleberry, and Preventski as well as letting them convince him to go after DW4 shows he's clueless.
@@MS-1 Value models like Moneyball are useful tools. They account for a finite number of variables that are supposed to be the most important. If they grossly underestimate the importance of a variable, they provide erroneous answers. Watson's strength in Houston was his ability to extend plays and make plays out of structure. The emergence of dominant edge rushers prevents Watson from doing this and his value evaporated.
Useful in football when it started in baseball? (It should have no influence on a GM's decision in trades and drafts and, it has be proven here pushing for DW4 for an epic fail). @@Clay_F
They respond to Stefsnski by committing the most turnovers and penalties with a 3-11 record......Jason Lloyd is so dumb
I so badly want to keep watching, but every show there is someone CLEARING THEIR THROAT THE ENTIRE SHOW!! Can someone please give this person a cough button??
It starts and ends with the Deshaun Watson trade. Its was the worst trade in the history of the league. Gonna take a few years to recover
You dudes are so comfortable! LOVE YA!
HOT RUSH! Collaborate the new fusion of the elite best in and need to be in Cleveland !
i must admit i did not see this shit season coming after last years 11-6
I am A Browns fan for life. I am from the area. Sad thing is I don't live in the state of Ohio anymore and I have turned My sons in to Browns fans.
Groundhog’s Day 😂
Jay posits “is this worse than 0-16.” Of course Lloyd has to pipe in “I said that last week.” We know, Jason, you are all knowing and you constantly want us to know that you said something in the past that ended up being right. Man.
He’s so cool cause he doesn’t care and he’s “dead inside” I wish I could be as cool and aloof as him he’s so cool guys do you know how cool he is cause he doesn’t care that’s how you know he’s cool
Fire Stefanski !!!!!!!! That’s what you can say Jason !!!!
My only pleasure as a Browns fan for some time has been to watch deserving heads roll...but Jimmy won't do it until the pain is unbearable.
He need to sell
I switched to the Jags game. Smh.
Grandma or Grandpa, I believe gave me some kind of magic!
Ah yes. We are back to the "cleaning house" trope. Fucking ridiculous.
The team was literally just in the playoffs last year with 5 different QBs and fans are acting like the team has been losing for the past decade. Bunch of crybabies.
They have been losing for a decade
bro....the team is PURE TRASH!!!!! @@Correr-jf6ig
@@Correr-jf6igthey made the playoffs with 4
@@Correr-jf6ig AMEN.
Browns should have traded anyone they could get #1 and #2 round picks for Garret,Ward for sure. But they are dumb, that’s why they are in this situation. This organization has been dumb for over 50 years straight. I wish they would fold and go out of business
They’ll take an o-lineman with their top pick when what we need are playmakers LMAO. You can get LINEMAN IN THE LATER ROUNDS WE NEED PLAYMAKERS
56:02 I CANNOT believe you guys still haven’t learned your lesson. Did you learn NOTHING from the baker/deshuan debacle??? The QB IS NOT THE WHOLE TEAM FFS!!!! He is a PIECE of the team. An IMPORTANT piece. But he can’t be everything!! Even your examples can’t do that. Look at Joe Burrow right now. Putting up MVP numbers and his team is likely out of the playoffs. This notion of the “perfect QB” that will save you from all of your sins is just a fantasy that’s never gonna happen. Eventually you’ll have to look in the mirror and realize the organization and staff/culture are the keys that unlock the elite QB potential to win. Without that, he’s just an elite QB with a losing record, like Joe Burrow. Look at the Lions, who you mentioned. They’re everything you guys want to be, and they’re doing it with a QB that I guarantee you all would throw right under the bus with Baker and anyone else you consider “not good enough”!!
Cleveland is Special!
No more Loses! EVER!
😂😂😂😂 They need to FIRE EVERYONE!!!!!!!
And trade anyone of VALUE!!!!!
NOW!!!!
Even Garrett?
@garythefunster since we are in cap hell with no way out until 2027, we need to leverage our assets for the future. Garrett is a HOF DE, but he is not winning us any games.
Peace is the touchdowns! Amen!
The Browns are such a mess, I doubt you can get a coach to come and take on this disaster. At least not a coach worth having. Your almost as stuck with Kevin as much as Watson
😂
I do not want to scratch codes when I can play the game to win with fun!
2:01:00-Maybe the Browns should've kept Tyler Hunley.
Maybe when you're 70 years of age and they still haven't been to the Super Bowl, I warned you
Imagine Berry blowing another top draft pick. He sucks period and nobody can explain him unable to draft a single impact player. Stupid turnovers, lack of discpline, bad talent evaluation and sucking at draft time making stupid trades are the hallmark of Andy Berry and Pauley Depodesti. Just cause these 2 idiots went to Ivy League schools doesn't make either of them smart cause they aren't and prove it consistently. This is exactly the team Pauley and dumbazz Andy built for Hue Jackson too. Same B rowns same Dawg crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Any fan could outdraft the Cleveland Browns front office and Jackazz Jimmy and Dirty Dee Haslam that traded everything away for a creep that abused at least 27 people. Berry's stupid requirement all qbs be black was perhaps the dumbewst, racist thing from A Strategy VP and GM.
We are ashamed for 50 yrs! WTF! Get my Elementary coach to coach this team! LOVE ME! YOU! THAT`S CRYING! We ZEN!
Hard knocks ! Cleveland thinking tonight to figure out TOP GUNS! We need new AMMO! Really! Great Hercules and more!
1:33:20.-I disagree with Jay on that point, the Browns defense IS playing well, but, it's not the defense' job to score points. That's solely the offense' job. Even the best defense cannot always cover for offensive ineptitude.
Jamies is always going to throw picks but in this mess of a system its way worse. Fire Dorsey
Was in Charlotte a few weeks ago. They had a million caps for every team. There where 2 option for the Browns. Even the jets had a better selection.
I got a buffalo dad cap… I’m not sure I’m a fan but … I got the cap. 🥴
I think the best word to describe all of this is stinky
60 YEARS and NO Super Bowl. NEVER PLAY in the Super Bowl🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Fool's Gold
HI! Love NFL and CLEVELAND OHIO! Bring in the MAGIC! Miles Knows! Listen to him!
Love on the rocks too! My winning drink! Peace is all we need to ROCK!
Hug all living things!
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! I LOVE MYLES GARRETTT! {The Sting Ray Corvette! } He KiCKS ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
Myles do you want a ring or not? Then, just stay in Cleveland = Thomas😢😢😢😢😢
Browns miss AVP. I think AVP was a big part of the reason Browns got a lot out of QBs. Aaron Rodgers and Andy Dalton both have a high opinion of him. Dorsey has been a disaster this year.
Stop telling us to wait next year
It all about the quarter back come in guys
We need granite ROCK not cardboard!
My suggestion is Jimmy Haslem should go talk to John Dorsey. Hire Dorsey as your Chief Strategy Officer or V.P. of Football Operations. Make Depodesta a consultant or just release him of his duties. Let Dorsey evaluate Berry and Stefanski for a year to see if he wants to keep them or not.
Depodesta needs to go
no chance dorse comes back after he was shown the door prior. he builds a core and then when he leaves.. he goes somewhere else and does the same.
Your only hope (and the dooring closing as the Pats are showing interest now) is Vrabel HC/GM.
We learn from coaches!
Year after year after year, changes need made...nothing is going to change regardless of who is in the front office or coaching....until the "losing culture "is fixed the cliché maybe next year will Bea thing of the past......not holding my breath....city is cursed..
My father has been a fan of the Browns for over 75 years! I don't know how many more season he has left. For him for not have a championship during the Super Bowl ERA during his life is a shame! Berry is garbage
Your Pops got to enjoy the Browns Dynasty when he was a kid. They were a Pro Football Powerhouse back then! The Browns went to 10 World Championships "in a row", winning 7 of the 10. The main problem with the Browns has been poor ownership since 1961.
@@MGB-302Art Model won an NFL Championship In 1964.
@@MGB-302I am old enough to remember Browns winning NFL Championship 60 years ago, December 27, 1964. Even if they never win a Super Bowl while I’m here, I can always say that I remember when they were the best team in the NFL. It was a glorious feeling, even if I never again experience it.
@@frederickrapp5396: Art SCUMdell bought that NFL Championship in '64. Yeah, it still counts, but nonetheless. But there is no denying that the Browns heyday was from '46-'55. The McBride/Jones/Paul Brown era Browns produced 7 World Championships.
POWER to PEACE TO POWER!
Losing record after 5 years, no playoff wins and COY is such a garbage award Tomlin doesn't have one 🙄😂
Kev is too Hue-like.
To all Browns fans You support losing. When teams like Atlanta or Miami or Houston Texans lose no fans support them which forces the owner to put a winning product on the field. Are owner is building a dome Stadium off of y’all misery let that sink in. Drama and losing is what this fan base support.. so the owner do not have to put a winning product on the field
The lions supported their team for years and look at them now. It's a game so no need to take it so seriously
@ my point so all them years losing and yet still made money 💰 and next year the lions can go 3 and 14 and still make millions off the fans. Point is the fans is the problem because your support is to loyal to the Browns which means they making money of your misery whether they’re winning or losing we and the Detroit lions been losing more than winning. they do have to do something to keep the fan interested. You see the hope they gave the bengals fans where are they at now and still making money of the fans misery. Fans the problem and till y’all stop supporting losing then the owner loses and he either going to put a winner on the field or sell the team. But it starts with you as a died hard fan.
@@antoniocurlee1181loyalty is overrated
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Who's going to want to go to the BROWNS when they been playing terrible ????
BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ahhhhhhhhh ! Coach!
The only one that needs to be fired. Is that crook that’s the owner of the team and that’s Jimmy has them the team is never going to be a decent team until he’s gone.
Is it that bad that young people dont buy into the browns automatically? If fans dont automatically buy in and spend money on a shit franchise it forcess them to either get good or leave.
It’s not bad but it’s definitely different than it used to be, like they talked about. Young fans aren’t attached just by geography they can follow teams virally. So it’s not bad for the fans but for the browns? Definitely not good news
They will be lucky to win 11 games total over next 3 seasons.
and if they know what they are doing.. they will have done a quick rebuild with the draft capital they acquire during that time. otherwise.. why did the nfl ever allow cleveland to have a franchise after 1995?
Until the worst ownership in all of professional sports is replaced, the Browns will be mired in mediocrity, at best.
Stefanski is NOT the problem, as he can only coach up what he's given.
The Cavs?
Oh the browns
We are above PRO! Halos! Cleveland halos as we prayed for so many years! Were is Jesus?
Lose the lose and find tall BIGFOOT with his fast ass friends!
cleveland needs public ownership like green bay
It'll be a bigger dumpster fire. You'll have a new QB and head coach every week.
@@someperson8151 the Packers are a bedrock franchise with multiple superbowls 🤡
@@someperson8151 exactly... playing madden does not make you a coach nor a gm. it sucks being a browns fan.. but no way the knee jerk reactions will ever do this team good. it is just going to suck until they browns have an owner who is not a schmuck like haslam or lerner.
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So the people with money are the smart ones to stay away. The regular fans aren't smart, just broke. Nice one, Jay.
Just a thought
Depodesta, Berry, and Stefanski, you want to keep them. looking into the books.Haslams DON'T want anyone else to look
Fire KS and AB. Finally, Bull is coming around. And G. Bush has them both "on the hot seat".
Just end this stupid franchise now. NO football team in Cleveland is better than this team
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you take the best available in the draft and resign winston. make it known that he is qb1 from the getgo until that albatross of a watson contract is in the rear view. you will have to say gbye to chubb and garrett as their time in cleveland is probably winding down. otherwise.. ride it out until you get the dome in brook park - hopefully by then they will have drafted a future qb1 to be excited about.
So Jay wants to switch teams. What's the point? I've been a fan for 60 years. Still won't switch. It's in my heart and soul. Too late to switch. That's why you see so many squealer fans in Ohio. They pick them because they are always good year after year. They can't handle being made fun of for rooting for a loser organization. Can't make fun of a squealer fan now can you?
Lets Get A REAL TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! For what we HAVE! Who will do this! Is it right! Dress me all white or black ! The outside looks of a uniform does not matter! The person that plays their game is! Lets Play the Nitty football with real players like Myles G. Listen to Myles ! He Needs a Superbowl for CLEVELAND . Follow M.G mentality and u will succeed!
This is for PEACE to AMERICA!
Be THE BULL of Cleveland NFL! YOUR MAGIC IS UP!
I LOVE YOU BULL COOL! LAL, WE , IM, CRAZY , DOG, Winter SNOW, FAN BLITTZ, HELP ME! , Hail MARY!
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Our allegiance is to a name….. The real BROWNS are the RAVENS….. PERIOD ‼️‼️‼️
too bad browns fans cannot root for baltimore in that case. i remember a few friends in high school who did just that and it just looked weird as hell when they wore ravens merch in our ne ohio high school. their logic was that it was the same org.. just a diff city.
We are the team of The top castle of the universe if u look outside the box!
Bigfoot and uaps everywere! That is what is Clevelands all about a mystery wins forever!
Get `Real more than unreal!
Jason, ty lue is not a top coach in the league lmaooooooooo dude please stop
Might not be a top coach but he is a very good coach. Has the Clippers a playoff team without Kawhi
@@ShadowSelf216 So you just proved my point loser lmfao. GREAT JOB GENIUS!!!! 😂😂😂😂 This guy 😭😭😭
@@ShadowSelf216I enjoy picking on people like you. Did you know that?
I disagree with the comment on confidence our team is a bag of s***
Wow I guess bull alright he’s also a NYer that’s not a fan of NY teams go CLE!