This is absurd, there is no way that the Vikings are going to give up the future of their organization to the Browns. Instead of trying to steal a player from some other team, why not just draft and develop their own quarterback. There is no shortcuts for longterm success, as we have discovered the last 3 years.
@@toneingegni8708 You don't understand, when you draft a guy, you invest resources into him and you have him on a team friendly contract for 5 years, which means you have the money to pay those receivers and defensive players while the quarterback is on a team friendly contract. Darnold will be 28 in June, there is zero chance that the Vikings will trade JJ McCarthy, while they have him on a team friendly contract.
@@StevenC32I wouldn’t trade jj either but it’s the smart move for Cleveland especially if it’s a 2nd or 3rd round pick. He’s still basically a rookie and you can put some pieces around him. While waiting on the Watson contract to run out.
Drafting Kenny Pickett set the Steelers back years. Drafting a quarterback this year will do the same. Watson is still an excellent out of structure QB, but the NFL has solved the out of structure QB with monster pass rushes and the Browns O-line is not up to the challenge. Admit it, the top QBs in this draft are less skilled versions of Watson. Browns won't win by doubling down on stupid yet again. Neither Watson nor this QB draft class is the answer. Rebuild the O-line, resign Nick Chubb, and find an in-structure QB that protects the ball.
@@Clay_F That's absurd! You have to take a quarterback when you get a chance whether it works out or not. Only cowards refuse to take a risk. There is no player that will transform the Browns into a winner more than a quarterback will. A defensive player or a receiver will not win you games. A quarterback touches the ball every play, and has more impact on the game than other player on the field!
Trade for JJ...a first round pick is going to take a first round pick. Therefore there is NO way to draft travis. Also he wouldn't play for Cleveland. For why?
@@tempe1d Dude, Jameis Winston was a 1st round pick. Do you think the Browns deserve a 1st round pick for him? It doesn't matter where you were drafted in the trade market. Also, how do you know Hunter won't play in Cleveland? You don't know him.
@michaelsullivan5722 that's nonsense. JJ was drafted LAST YEAR. He didnt get to play. Please stop being silly. Jameis has been in the league for yrs. JJ is still on a rookie deal. THAT'S the point. Jameis is a VETERAN NOW. JJ is a ROOKIE. Get it? JJ is their future. Browns future is same as past. 3-4Qbs every yr and the joke of professional football. Travis is a WINNER why would he want to play for forever losers? Who has wanted to go to Cleveland in the past 30yrs...I'll wait. 🤣
@tempe1d You're clearly not even a Browns fan and thats sad you have nothing better to do than troll a Browns comment section. So what are the Browns supposed to do? Draft lousy players because Cleveland isnt a Miami or LA level city? Send that resume into the Browns GM job now bro. You've got a good shot. Really! :-/
@michaelsullivan5722 im not a browns fan. I am a fan of the browns fans. They deserve to taste winning. Similar to the Lions. I am a football fan first. Have some patience. Stafanski is a damn good coach. Draft the beat player with that 1st pick. Get players that can make impact now to help Myles G get the respect he deserves as a top pass rusher. The teams at the top of NFC all have 1 thing....RUN game. Top of the division are Ravens who....RUN THE DANG BALL. Jameis can get you to the playoffs. Just need a quality backup for him. Stop making "splash" moves in a panic every year that leave you soaked in tears. Sorry buddy. Im not trolling.
To wonder if Minnesota would keep both McCarthy and Darnold just ask yourself what Minnesota's goal in 2024 draft by drafting McCarthy #10 overall was to get a starting QB,well signing Darnold was a great move and solves their QB dilemma so now they can use McCarthy as a means to gather more assets
No one wants old Kirk,we need to go back to the playbook Kevin was having at least some success with and draft and develop a QB,i do agree get rid of everyone in the QB room DTR,zappe, Winston and Watson
@@mississippisdarkknight There was nothing wrong with the offense in the first place! When you have PJ Walker and 38 year old Joe Flacco running this offense and you were winning games, then that wasn’t the problem. Firing the entire offensive staff and bringing in Ken Dorsey as OC was an absolute nightmare and I don’t think Kevin wanted to do it in the first place. Whoever thought that this was a great idea, should be fired! They definitely need to revamp the entire QB room. Then, they must go back to the West Coast system that Kevin knows, and fire the entire offensive staff again! Defensively, you just need a few personnel tweaks and health, but I’m ok with the coaching staff. As far as Special Teams, Bojorquez is the ONLY untouchable! EVERYONE (including Bubba Ventrone) needs to be evaluated and/or replaced!
Trading McCarthy to the browns will make all that energy go towards nothing. Whether or not they have a franchise QB, the browns will always be a bust.
Man stop it and soon as he sucks y’all going to boo him and blame everyone but Kevin Stafanski, this is why I’m not a browns fan no more. Because the fans is the dumbest fans I ever been apart of. Never again Browns fans like to be miserable every year.
Great minds think alike……and sometimes even mine does. Couldn’t sleep last night after watching my hometown Lions dismantle the purple libs from that commie state NW of us in the mitten. Kept thinking about what my 48yr adopted team would do with their high draft pick. Being they again failed to clean house and get rid of their woke Ivy League “analytics” front office they’ll probably trade away that pic for another bag of magic beans (Watson) but thought even a dead clock is right twice a day we we could get lucky and get some damn picks back along with a Michigan QB……I hope they make a logical deal and NOT grab a qb in this rather weak qb draft like Sanders. The Browns fans have suffered enough. Take a lesson from the D and BUILD a team around the draft now that were finally getting a first round pick
Most teams build around there qb....but not the Cleveland Clowns. Nah. The Cleveland Clowns say we're going to build around our head coach that only had 2 winning seasons out of five 🤣🤣🤣
Unfortunately that’s not an insult. 2 out of 5 is better than 1 out of 20….🤔 so making the playoffs 40% of the seasons as opposed to 5%…. Conundrum, yep!
This team is literally in the terrible position that they are in RIGHT NOW because they tried to build around a QB... not saying Kevin is even worth keeping, but it's ironic that you would scoff at the Browns not building around a QB
@@michaelschupska2047that's not building around a QB, that's simply switching schemes which they really didn't do. Building around a QB is bringing in players (receivers, tight ends, lineman, running backs), changing your passing game coordinator, offensive coordinator, and the play designs. They did none of that. All they did was change the OC (and even then Kevin still called the plays for the first 7 games) and operate out of the shotgun. They didn't even run rpos until after deshaun got injured which was the reason they brought in Dorsey in the first place 😂
Gentlemen just sign Justin fields and put him in Stefanski’s system. Build around the defensive line and oline. Draft Milroe in the 3rd round, b/c he’ll fall that far. We need Carter from PSU or Graham from Xichigan, also need a running back and tight end this year. We need to get back to 12 personnel. We need an actual slot receiver like restrapo Miami. Iowa’s MLB is a solid day 3 guy if not late day 2. Georgia safety played like crap against Notre Dame.
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This is absurd, there is no way that the Vikings are going to give up the future of their organization to the Browns. Instead of trying to steal a player from some other team, why not just draft and develop their own quarterback. There is no shortcuts for longterm success, as we have discovered the last 3 years.
JJ does t have to be the future. Sam is only 27. They could trade him and really have a win win with more draft capital for him.
@@toneingegni8708 You don't understand, when you draft a guy, you invest resources into him and you have him on a team friendly contract for 5 years, which means you have the money to pay those receivers and defensive players while the quarterback is on a team friendly contract. Darnold will be 28 in June, there is zero chance that the Vikings will trade JJ McCarthy, while they have him on a team friendly contract.
@@StevenC32I wouldn’t trade jj either but it’s the smart move for Cleveland especially if it’s a 2nd or 3rd round pick. He’s still basically a rookie and you can put some pieces around him. While waiting on the Watson contract to run out.
Drafting Kenny Pickett set the Steelers back years. Drafting a quarterback this year will do the same. Watson is still an excellent out of structure QB, but the NFL has solved the out of structure QB with monster pass rushes and the Browns O-line is not up to the challenge. Admit it, the top QBs in this draft are less skilled versions of Watson. Browns won't win by doubling down on stupid yet again. Neither Watson nor this QB draft class is the answer. Rebuild the O-line, resign Nick Chubb, and find an in-structure QB that protects the ball.
@@Clay_F That's absurd! You have to take a quarterback when you get a chance whether it works out or not. Only cowards refuse to take a risk. There is no player that will transform the Browns into a winner more than a quarterback will. A defensive player or a receiver will not win you games. A quarterback touches the ball every play, and has more impact on the game than other player on the field!
It would take our 1st round pick but it still may be worth it
I been talking about JJ McCarthy for about a month as being better than anyone coming out in this upcoming draft
I'd rather have JJ McCarthy then picking a Sanders, Cam Ward, or Gabriel in the 1st round. Trade for JJ, take Travis Hunter if he's there.
Trade for JJ...a first round pick is going to take a first round pick. Therefore there is NO way to draft travis. Also he wouldn't play for Cleveland. For why?
@@tempe1d Dude, Jameis Winston was a 1st round pick. Do you think the Browns deserve a 1st round pick for him? It doesn't matter where you were drafted in the trade market. Also, how do you know Hunter won't play in Cleveland? You don't know him.
@michaelsullivan5722 that's nonsense. JJ was drafted LAST YEAR. He didnt get to play. Please stop being silly. Jameis has been in the league for yrs. JJ is still on a rookie deal. THAT'S the point. Jameis is a VETERAN NOW. JJ is a ROOKIE. Get it? JJ is their future. Browns future is same as past. 3-4Qbs every yr and the joke of professional football. Travis is a WINNER why would he want to play for forever losers? Who has wanted to go to Cleveland in the past 30yrs...I'll wait. 🤣
@tempe1d You're clearly not even a Browns fan and thats sad you have nothing better to do than troll a Browns comment section. So what are the Browns supposed to do? Draft lousy players because Cleveland isnt a Miami or LA level city? Send that resume into the Browns GM job now bro. You've got a good shot. Really! :-/
@michaelsullivan5722 im not a browns fan. I am a fan of the browns fans. They deserve to taste winning. Similar to the Lions. I am a football fan first. Have some patience. Stafanski is a damn good coach. Draft the beat player with that 1st pick. Get players that can make impact now to help Myles G get the respect he deserves as a top pass rusher. The teams at the top of NFC all have 1 thing....RUN game. Top of the division are Ravens who....RUN THE DANG BALL. Jameis can get you to the playoffs. Just need a quality backup for him. Stop making "splash" moves in a panic every year that leave you soaked in tears. Sorry buddy. Im not trolling.
To wonder if Minnesota would keep both McCarthy and Darnold just ask yourself what Minnesota's goal in 2024 draft by drafting McCarthy #10 overall was to get a starting QB,well signing Darnold was a great move and solves their QB dilemma so now they can use McCarthy as a means to gather more assets
Win win in a trade for J Mac. to the Browns. Perfect fit for many reasons. Love to see Josh McCown as OC. Get Cousins and trade for JJ.
Browns trying to secure the top pick. Don't mess up the draft pick.
Get #1, trade down and grab DL OL
Yes. *YES!* Brilliant!
We will trade miles Garrett We are rebuilding
Give us myles Garrett and the 2025 1st and 2nd rd pick.
Bring Joe Flacco back!!
Bro, we should have brought him back THIS YEAR! I betcha we would have more than 3 wins!
Why not just pickup Kirk Cousins in free agency to bridge the gap for a couple seasons. Not the best situation but not the worst.
I agree. They can't develop a new QB with a crap O-Line. Tim Couch 2.0, so just hire Cousins as a scarecrow while we build the line.
You cannot outscore those AFC QBs...you need to limit them with defense
We were correct on Sam Darnold over Faker McBusterfield after all heheh
Berry needs to see if 2x HC of the Year can savage Zach Wilson
The Gm has a relationship with the Vikings also, makes the most sense.
JAXON DART!!!
"We need to remember he's a human being"- Earl. Ummm. What else did you think he is. Really? I'll wait....🤔
only if direct swap with Greg Newsome
we are not getting jj 😂😂 we going to bring in a vet or draft a qb or both and watson will be on the roster next year and will show up as a pro
Oh boy. Stop with the old arse Cousins reunion lol. The front office and, majority of the coaching staff including Preventski need fire now. 😂
No one wants old Kirk,we need to go back to the playbook Kevin was having at least some success with and draft and develop a QB,i do agree get rid of everyone in the QB room DTR,zappe, Winston and Watson
@@mississippisdarkknight There was nothing wrong with the offense in the first place! When you have PJ Walker and 38 year old Joe Flacco running this offense and you were winning games, then that wasn’t the problem. Firing the entire offensive staff and bringing in Ken Dorsey as OC was an absolute nightmare and I don’t think Kevin wanted to do it in the first place. Whoever thought that this was a great idea, should be fired!
They definitely need to revamp the entire QB room. Then, they must go back to the West Coast system that Kevin knows, and fire the entire offensive staff again! Defensively, you just need a few personnel tweaks and health, but I’m ok with the coaching staff. As far as Special Teams, Bojorquez is the ONLY untouchable! EVERYONE (including Bubba Ventrone) needs to be evaluated and/or replaced!
Trading McCarthy to the browns will make all that energy go towards nothing. Whether or not they have a franchise QB, the browns will always be a bust.
Get out of here with that trade Miles Garrett's shit
Why do you want Myles to stay here? The team's going nowhere. Stop being selfish, and trade him for picks!
Yeah this is NUTTY asf... Michigan player's never pan out in Cleveland through out the years except Leroy Hoard wtf
He wasnt a superstar or anything, but i thought DPJ was solid.
Jj McCarthy? Nope, I'm not feeling that. Besides, he would be coming off of an injury.
Man stop it and soon as he sucks y’all going to boo him and blame everyone but Kevin Stafanski, this is why I’m not a browns fan no more. Because the fans is the dumbest fans I ever been apart of. Never again Browns fans like to be miserable every year.
An unproven rookie with a season ending injury HECK NO 😂
Great minds think alike……and sometimes even mine does. Couldn’t sleep last night after watching my hometown Lions dismantle the purple libs from that commie state NW of us in the mitten. Kept thinking about what my 48yr adopted team would do with their high draft pick. Being they again failed to clean house and get rid of their woke Ivy League “analytics” front office they’ll probably trade away that pic for another bag of magic beans (Watson) but thought even a dead clock is right twice a day we we could get lucky and get some damn picks back along with a Michigan QB……I hope they make a logical deal and NOT grab a qb in this rather weak qb draft like Sanders. The Browns fans have suffered enough. Take a lesson from the D and BUILD a team around the draft now that were finally getting a first round pick
Vikings aren't going to save us. JJ is going nowhere.
Most teams build around there qb....but not the Cleveland Clowns. Nah. The Cleveland Clowns say we're going to build around our head coach that only had 2 winning seasons out of five 🤣🤣🤣
Unfortunately that’s not an insult. 2 out of 5 is better than 1 out of 20….🤔 so making the playoffs 40% of the seasons as opposed to 5%…. Conundrum, yep!
This team is literally in the terrible position that they are in RIGHT NOW because they tried to build around a QB... not saying Kevin is even worth keeping, but it's ironic that you would scoff at the Browns not building around a QB
@@TheAngryQuadroon.5211 Illogical.
@@michaelschupska2047that's not building around a QB, that's simply switching schemes which they really didn't do.
Building around a QB is bringing in players (receivers, tight ends, lineman, running backs), changing your passing game coordinator, offensive coordinator, and the play designs. They did none of that.
All they did was change the OC (and even then Kevin still called the plays for the first 7 games) and operate out of the shotgun. They didn't even run rpos until after deshaun got injured which was the reason they brought in Dorsey in the first place 😂
Gentlemen just sign Justin fields and put him in Stefanski’s system. Build around the defensive line and oline. Draft Milroe in the 3rd round, b/c he’ll fall that far. We need Carter from PSU or Graham from Xichigan, also need a running back and tight end this year. We need to get back to 12 personnel. We need an actual slot receiver like restrapo Miami. Iowa’s MLB is a solid day 3 guy if not late day 2. Georgia safety played like crap against Notre Dame.
I’d take McCarthy over Milroe any day
Get rid of StaFanski... he's garbage... Watson won against the ravens not Stafanski's play calling