WHAT IF Goku KILLED Supreme Kai in the Buu Saga? | Dragon Ball Z

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  • What If Supreme Kai didn't back down when Goku threatened to blast him?
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    In the Buu Saga of Dragon Ball Z, Vegeta famously allowed Babidi to control him in order to fight Goku. However, before the battle between the two Saiyans could happen, Supreme Kai steps in between Goku and Vegeta - clearly making the statement that this fight was not worth the revival of Majin Buu. Instead of backing down though, Goku raises his arm and charges a Ki blast - ready to kill the Lord of Lords if he has to. Even Vegeta is taken aback by this action, and in the original, Shin can see that Goku is serious so he backs down. In this Dragon Ball What If I ask the question, what would happen if Shin didn’t back down? What if Goku went through with it and Killed the Supreme Kai. Well, Goku fires off the blast and kills Shin in a single blast - removing him from the battlefield and allowing Vegeta to fight. Gohan can’t believe what his father has done, but Goku tells Gohan they’ll bring him back to life later. For now, Vegeta and Buu are the biggest threats on the planet. Goku tells Babidi to teleport them to a deserted location and he tells Gohan to finish off Dabura and Babidi. Before Gohan can blast open the ship, Babidi lets him in. The battles that will define the Buu Saga are about to happen.
    After watching the video feel free to leave any and all counter points in the comments below - I love a good discussion.
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  • @Shard_Soldier
    @Shard_Soldier 3 года назад +3364

    Beerus: “I don’t feel so good.”

    • @SilverSaiyanAce
      @SilverSaiyanAce 3 года назад +70

      @Realm maybe he gets a jolt of pain that wakes him up just before dying

    • @saiyanelite0979
      @saiyanelite0979 3 года назад +23

      Maby elder kai would save him.

    • @catmananimation2974
      @catmananimation2974 3 года назад +31

      @@saiyanelite0979 SHOULDN’T HAVE LOCKED HIM IN THE Z-SWORD.

    • @saiyanelite0979
      @saiyanelite0979 3 года назад +3

      @@catmananimation2974 ?

    • @catmananimation2974
      @catmananimation2974 3 года назад +16

      @@saiyanelite0979 elder Kai got trapped in the z-sword by beerus, as stated in super.

  • @Zaza-sb2xd
    @Zaza-sb2xd 3 года назад +3011

    It’s interesting how one mistake in time can change a multiverse

  • @Derakin
    @Derakin 3 года назад +1365

    If Frieza hadn't been revived, Goku wouldn't have suggested he be brought back for the ToP since they never saw his golden form, and he wouldn't have had enough time to train to get it. They would be more likely to revive Cell or have the strongest off-world fighter to be brought to them via the dragonballs or Whis, which would most likely be Broly.

    • @carolynfrater4364
      @carolynfrater4364 3 года назад +40

      Sounds good I will love to see that

    • @toxin8571
      @toxin8571 3 года назад +120

      and uub wouldnt be a reincarnation of buu, so the moro arc is fucked up

    • @thegodhimself5554
      @thegodhimself5554 2 года назад +27

      They would never have a tournament of power

    • @titanictnt7476
      @titanictnt7476 2 года назад +31

      See “What if Broly was in the Tournament of Power” for more info. Come to think of it, if Cell absorbing people doesn’t count as killing them, he could sneak attack, and absorb Jiren, and just down everything in his path.

    • @peeratatlerthattasilp349
      @peeratatlerthattasilp349 2 года назад +4

      But maybe Gohan would tell Goku about Frieza golden form tho

  • @elixity2182
    @elixity2182 3 года назад +1422

    Just imagine if on planet vegeta there was six saiyan kids just playing ring around the rosie and 1 of them just becomes a SSG🤣

    • @drylust8886
      @drylust8886 3 года назад +68

      The way you space out the letters at the end means you had to think about what you had to say

    • @bruhboi8356
      @bruhboi8356 3 года назад +30

      @@drylust8886 ?

    • @rashaun5514
      @rashaun5514 3 года назад +55

      Saiyan kids don’t play 😭😭 they’re evil

    • @drylust8886
      @drylust8886 3 года назад +44

      @@rashaun5514 not all of them

    • @farazshaikh5688
      @farazshaikh5688 3 года назад +6

      GuardUp sHaUNn broly??

  • @SpammytheHedgehog
    @SpammytheHedgehog 3 года назад +1568

    Imagine Beerus having a stroke.

    • @zephaniahhester2761
      @zephaniahhester2761 3 года назад +204

      *w h I s I t h I n k I m h a v I n g a s t r o k e*
      Champa: *belly rumble*

    • @SilverSaiyanAce
      @SilverSaiyanAce 3 года назад +126

      Champa: hey vados I've got a feeling something bad is happening to my brother take me to universe 7 so I can laugh at him
      Vados: I think he's dead.
      Champa: shit I didn't think it was that bad

    • @sullivanwazowski741
      @sullivanwazowski741 3 года назад +35

      Ghost Beerus: DAMN YOU!

    • @frankthetankgaming2272
      @frankthetankgaming2272 3 года назад +8

      @@zephaniahhester2761 Lmao

    • @Imimurwalls283
      @Imimurwalls283 3 года назад +20

      @@SilverSaiyanAceberrus: champa i will slap you
      Champa: *laughs at beerus dieing*

  • @isildurmon3874
    @isildurmon3874 3 года назад +542

    when Carthu says his iconic what if phrase "It just isn't enough" that's when shit gets real in the story

  • @dr.badtimes3660
    @dr.badtimes3660 3 года назад +556

    Now that Goku has killed God, he can finally go Super Nietzsche

    • @FolkBoyify
      @FolkBoyify 3 года назад +21

      Damn, man.. Don’t say, “God is dead” to me like this..

    • @jujushmoojoo
      @jujushmoojoo 2 года назад +9

      *beerus
      You disrespect us boy

    • @KhoaLe-uc2ny
      @KhoaLe-uc2ny 2 года назад +12

      "Ubermensch"

    • @Ranolog
      @Ranolog Год назад +2

      God of war Dragonball mod?

    • @twomanywalls
      @twomanywalls 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@FolkBoyify God is dead and kakarot killed him

  • @khumokwezimashapa2245
    @khumokwezimashapa2245 3 года назад +1808

    Goku: HAKAI!!!
    Shin: WAIT A MIN-!!! *Dies*
    Whis: *checks Beerus* Looks like he's enjoying his nap
    *4 Years past*
    Whis: Hmmm. He should've woken up by now. Maybe he really is that tired.
    *10 million years later*
    Whis: ....I see

    • @karmaaisuruncle3687
      @karmaaisuruncle3687 3 года назад +83

      Whis would've known the supreme kai of time would have died

    • @kuroarts6139
      @kuroarts6139 3 года назад +173

      Supreme Kai of what!? This isn't Xenoverse.

    • @SilverSaiyanAce
      @SilverSaiyanAce 3 года назад +30

      @@kuroarts6139 yeah no one said anything about chronoa

    • @kuroarts6139
      @kuroarts6139 3 года назад +11

      Ixnrrr999.ツ
      did

    • @SilverSaiyanAce
      @SilverSaiyanAce 3 года назад +9

      Ok listen here you little shi
      (Angy yellow bird or whatever)

  • @Geekdom101
    @Geekdom101 3 года назад +2433

    I wouldn't be sad, except Beerus would vanish.

    • @gleeflame9479
      @gleeflame9479 3 года назад +46

      Hello

    • @maximoomega3691
      @maximoomega3691 3 года назад +33

      Hey geekdom what do you think is going to happen in the next manga chapter of dbs moro arc I think vegeta will come and split moro from the earth 👍🏾

    • @quintrelb8428
      @quintrelb8428 3 года назад +66

      I mean, Shin was a cool character at the time, near his introduction. It was only as the story went on that he rapidly degraded into what he is now.

    • @sideshowkrill4693
      @sideshowkrill4693 3 года назад +23

      @@quintrelb8428 at least in the manga he actually does quite a bit during the Black arc

    • @slobodandesic6910
      @slobodandesic6910 3 года назад +13

      Good point

  • @quintrelb8428
    @quintrelb8428 3 года назад +602

    I don't think Goku intended to kill him with that ki blast. Knock him out, maybe. But obliterate him? That's a wee bit out of character. Honestly having seen everything he believed about his father shaken to it's core, Gohan would have went into a rage taken matters into his own hands.
    That being said... That brings up a huge question. If Shin or Beerus die... Do they end up in Otherworld with a body? Do other universes have Otherworld? I wonder what Zeno's rules on that are.

    • @quintrelb8428
      @quintrelb8428 3 года назад +45

      @Thomas Houghton I would think so, too. But in that case, why didn't King Yemma just give Beerus the one day pass to kill Black in Trunks' timeline?

    • @danielgonzalez-vm5lj
      @danielgonzalez-vm5lj 2 года назад +14

      @@quintrelb8428 idk future otherworld it tends to not help at all i mean after all the help future Goku did like saving his planet a Lot of times like 4 by That point and killing the biggest tyrants of space how wouldnt he get a day to come back to help Gohan and trunks ?

    • @painvillegaming4119
      @painvillegaming4119 2 года назад +2

      @@quintrelb8428 maybe beerus just didn’t care

    • @painvillegaming4119
      @painvillegaming4119 2 года назад +5

      Then majin Vegeta proceed to wreck gohan

    • @autumnleaf2513
      @autumnleaf2513 2 года назад +17

      I believe when a Deity dies, they're essentially erased.
      I think that was stated somewhere, I at least know I heard it somewhere.

  • @ivanhunter6492
    @ivanhunter6492 9 месяцев назад +39

    If Goku had done that, I think there would have been a domino effect of massive proportions

    • @daudalvi
      @daudalvi 25 дней назад

      Yeah... Obviously

  • @luistavarez2800
    @luistavarez2800 3 года назад +160

    Yeah Gohan would be unimaginable. With no peace guaranteed he would have mother choice than to train because everyone knows what’s going to happen in 4 years just like the Android saga. Getting God ki and training with other god ki users will make this man insanely strong

    • @WilliamWizer
      @WilliamWizer 9 месяцев назад +3

      what they should do is... let videl rest for a couple days/weeks and then give god ki to goten and trunks.
      sure, there's no way they would be powerful enough to harm beerus but seeing all five saiyans with god ki would make him amused. he expected A super saiyan god. now he has FIVE!!! and another will be in a few years.
      I wonder... Pan Super saiyan god? I'm not sure if I have ever seen her in SSG.

  • @SpammytheHedgehog
    @SpammytheHedgehog 3 года назад +964

    Gohan wouldn't have had his potential awakened.

    • @wildstorm3486
      @wildstorm3486 3 года назад +109

      True but I’m pretty sure SS GOD & SS Blue more then make up for its loos.

    • @ProfessorPrel
      @ProfessorPrel 3 года назад +30

      I think its strange that Gohan become a SS God

    • @newkiller4457
      @newkiller4457 3 года назад +42

      @@NPC-jt3gp that might actually be the case considering Broly was getting stronger by getting really angry and violen.

    • @newkiller4457
      @newkiller4457 3 года назад +9

      @@NPC-jt3gp yeah, if goku didn't taught him how to control his anger; who knows how strong Gohan would've gotten. Shit even as a toddler, even if buu was stronger, if he ever pissed him off, even buu would be done for because Gohan as a ssj2 was letting out so much anger without ever holding back. He was so mad that even a super perfect cell with zenkai boosts could even struggle with a 50% Gohan. Even gohan as just a 4 year old with 0 training had a powerlevevl of 1200+ meaning Gohan could actually theoretically have more potential than broly even with guru unlocking more of his potential. He as a child he nearly shat on 2nd form Frieza while enraged. Unfortunately we don't see that anymore because the plot really had to nerf Gohan. Even when Goku told Gohan to take advantage of his power by using his anger, Gohan really couldn't get angry.

    • @newkiller4457
      @newkiller4457 3 года назад +3

      @@NPC-jt3gp at least the manga kinda did serve him justice at least during the Top. In the Moro arc though, Gohan does become irrelevant again.

  • @roavage9856
    @roavage9856 3 года назад +295

    I suggest this What If. Thanks for making it and being the first one to.

    • @PACMAN9000rc
      @PACMAN9000rc 3 года назад +1

      Cool but no one Asked

    • @alephnull423
      @alephnull423 3 года назад +27

      @@PACMAN9000rc for you think that someone could only ever comment under the requirement that they are asked to do so by another person speaks of levels of absolute idiocy and inferiority you live every waking moment of your life in

    • @nigerianprince0245
      @nigerianprince0245 3 года назад +6

      @@alephnull423 i lost you on ‘ever’ 😂

    • @PACMAN9000rc
      @PACMAN9000rc 3 года назад +1

      No im gigga BrAin also
      Nobody cares who came up with it or not

    • @apparentlybird_2661
      @apparentlybird_2661 3 года назад +1

      The chosen one himself

  • @jimmyd8853
    @jimmyd8853 3 года назад +100

    I think Beurus would've just destroyed Earth once he found out what happened

    • @kais3rkai306
      @kais3rkai306 3 года назад +9

      Beerus would’ve been dead

    • @jimmyd8853
      @jimmyd8853 3 года назад +16

      @@kais3rkai306 In this what if scenario it's talking about once the supreme kai was wished back to life. Once he came back Beerus would have came back too depending on how the process is for them replacing Kai's and The Destroyers. Even if it wasn't Beerus that did it I believe the next destroyer would most likely pay Earth a nice visit destruction style.

    • @dansy_6014
      @dansy_6014 3 года назад

      Gods don’t get resurrected. Elder Kai was disgusted when they wanted to wish back the earth and the people who died

  • @theuntheist1392
    @theuntheist1392 3 года назад +51

    What if goku and gohan couldn't "turn off" super saiyan after fighting cell

    • @kris7115
      @kris7115 3 года назад

      What about getting knocked out?

    • @theuntheist1392
      @theuntheist1392 3 года назад +3

      Being in that state for so long that made it their base. Or, goku wants to see if there's something beyond 2... mastered super saiyan 3!!!

    • @philippesaury8916
      @philippesaury8916 3 года назад

      @@theuntheist1392 Wouldn't change that much in super

    • @waqasyounus4399
      @waqasyounus4399 3 года назад

      @@philippesaury8916 Stamina

    • @datalt7873
      @datalt7873 3 года назад

      Chi chi would be furious

  • @twiggypuppet7931
    @twiggypuppet7931 3 года назад +186

    What if buu kept on training after the buu arc or after the battle of gods because he wants to get strong to protect Hercule . And! What if he was there of resurrection of F!

    • @geeway5923
      @geeway5923 3 года назад +13

      Buu's already strong enough to take out anything that would waste its time with hercule
      and if not, candy beam

    • @kenayrodriguez6004
      @kenayrodriguez6004 3 года назад +15

      @@geeway5923 LMAO
      “If everything fails, BUU USE CANDY BEAM”

    • @diooverheaven4317
      @diooverheaven4317 3 года назад +1

      @Linmere18 Linmere18 also the candy beam doesn't work on beings far stronger than buu.
      Just look at vegito

    • @tysonatkinson7305
      @tysonatkinson7305 3 года назад +5

      @@diooverheaven4317 yeah it still worked on him tho. He was just a strong af price of candy

    • @diartgallapeni1421
      @diartgallapeni1421 3 года назад

      @@tysonatkinson7305 price

  • @maximoomega3691
    @maximoomega3691 3 года назад +244

    I feel like this is a underrated moment in dragon Ball z because beerus started dragon Ball super and without beerus then dbs wouldn't really have a lot of arcs because the universe 6 and 7 tournament Arc would not happen the zamasu arc would probably still happen but for the tournament of power that wouldn't happen either because there would be no one to introduce Goku to zeno and besides with no God destruction maybe universe 7 would be wiped out for having a low mortal rating

    • @maximoomega3691
      @maximoomega3691 3 года назад +5

      @Thomas Houghton darn I forgot but at least the freezer ark would still happen but they would all die because they wouldn't have god ki

    • @outcast_mystic
      @outcast_mystic 3 года назад +4

      @@maximoomega3691 ssj3/ssj2/ssj vegito/gogeta could probably beat frieza

    • @mehdiouabas9587
      @mehdiouabas9587 3 года назад +1

      @@outcast_mystic True,At least I hope so XD

    • @slinux8420
      @slinux8420 3 года назад +4

      @@outcast_mystic if frieza trained that is very unlikely

    • @maximoomega3691
      @maximoomega3691 3 года назад +5

      @@slinux8420 not to mention the fact that freiza trained for only 4 months what if he trained for a year I think he would be stronger than beerus Goku ultra instinct everybody how freiza got golden was pretty ridiculous and pretty op

  • @editorjay7159
    @editorjay7159 3 года назад +32

    Carthu: as they wish for all the good people that died to be brought back meaning the supreme Kai comes back and so does berrus
    Me: berrus was good?

    • @AIVI227
      @AIVI227 3 года назад +1

      Whos berrus?

    • @grimm3593
      @grimm3593 3 года назад +1

      Well it’s the link that would bring him back.

    • @chrisj5861
      @chrisj5861 3 года назад +4

      I mean technically beerus is only doing his job, other than that yes he’s good

    • @Lineproof
      @Lineproof 2 года назад

      i mean he isn’t necessarily bad

    • @editorjay7159
      @editorjay7159 2 года назад +4

      @@Lineproof he destroys plans because of bad food

  • @subwaysurfer5378
    @subwaysurfer5378 3 года назад +37

    When you realise Gohan has only been dead for a couple of hours in the what if

  • @Sword_Man_YT
    @Sword_Man_YT 3 года назад +142

    Wouldn't the Broly Movie not happen since Gohan stopped the revival of Frieza?

    • @daymianhogue1634
      @daymianhogue1634 3 года назад +10

      Carthu said Freeza was revived; only difference is Gohan killed him before Goku/Vegeta showed up... Then in the TOP they'd still need a 10th member and whis would still revive him... so the Broly movie would still happen... The biggest difference is Gohan may be there too because he'd actually be strong enough to help.

    • @Sword_Man_YT
      @Sword_Man_YT 3 года назад +3

      @@daymianhogue1634 Carthu said Gohan "can stop them before they even revive the dead emperor". During the Recruitment Arc I highly doubt Goku would think of Frieza since he would be so weak. I would think that Vegeta or Goku would suggest Future Trunks (and Beerus would definitely be okay with it since he wants to survive). Carthu only said that if Frieza got revived Gohan would've be enough to deal with him, but he didn't.

    • @daymianhogue1634
      @daymianhogue1634 3 года назад

      @@BlandyBoiYT @Sword Man Whoops I misheard apparently... also there's still a chance Goku thinks of Frieza for the ToP... given he still chose Roshi, Tien, and Krillin... and his biggest issue with Goten/Trunks was their immaturity and lack of real battle experience...

    • @Sword_Man_YT
      @Sword_Man_YT 3 года назад +2

      @@daymianhogue1634 Yes, there is a chance, but it's unlikely considering how weak Frieza is in this What If. That's why I said he would more than likely think of Future Trunks.

    • @daymianhogue1634
      @daymianhogue1634 3 года назад

      @@Sword_Man_YT Actually, most likely he'd probably think of Cell, Dabura, or maybe try to get Uub early...
      Future Trunks they can't do, they don't have a time machine... and not enough time to build one, and Beerus/Whis/Shin probably wouldn't approve anyway, in fear of it triggering Zeno.

  • @johannclyde9975
    @johannclyde9975 2 года назад +19

    Meanwhile in another timeline: what if Goku didn’t kill the supreme Kai?

    • @kyree1483
      @kyree1483 2 года назад +3

      Meanwhile in another another timeline: what if the supreme Kai backed down

    • @projekttaku1
      @projekttaku1 2 года назад +3

      meanwhile in another timeline: What if the supreme kai didn't kill goku?

    • @pizzelle266
      @pizzelle266 9 месяцев назад +1

      *in another another timelinr*
      What if goku didint marry the supreme kai

    • @ApexPheonixYT
      @ApexPheonixYT 3 месяца назад +1

      Meanwhile in another another timeline: what if goku wasn't the Supreme kai?

  • @charliebrown2366
    @charliebrown2366 3 года назад +32

    I'd love this to be a whole series honestly. I love your videos

  • @schuy77
    @schuy77 3 года назад +15

    I legit forgot he was tied to beerus’s life and that caught me off guard for a second lol

  • @zephaniahhester2761
    @zephaniahhester2761 3 года назад +222

    Goku: I was the imposter this whole time shin.
    Shin: 🖕
    Vegeta: *distressed screams*

  • @atm2378
    @atm2378 3 года назад +59

    Beerus would like to know your location.

  • @Grandmaster992
    @Grandmaster992 3 года назад +74

    I always thought Goku would just knockout the Supreme Kai or leave him incapacitated, but not kill him. Goku isn't a cold blooded killer like majin vegeta. Goku knew Vegeta was playing mind games to goad Goku to fight him and Goku didn't want to risk more people dying. Correct me if I'm missing something though.

    • @pedroborgesamaral5251
      @pedroborgesamaral5251 2 года назад +10

      That is why this is a what-if scenario.

    • @eliasruiz686
      @eliasruiz686 Год назад +6

      Did you forget all of dragon ball? Goku was ruthless as a kid, killed so many people, he's just more restrained as an adult.

    • @imsusanov2287
      @imsusanov2287 Год назад +6

      @@eliasruiz686 goku killed, yes
      But People he is killed were on par with Frieza in evil deeds

    • @johnjoestar2465
      @johnjoestar2465 9 месяцев назад

      Should've said if majin vegeta killed him instead

    • @johnjoestar2465
      @johnjoestar2465 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@pedroborgesamaral5251should've said if majin vegeta killed him instead, it's not in character for goku to kill some good person like supreme kai, but not only is it vegeta, its an evil vegeta

  • @legocharliet2798
    @legocharliet2798 3 года назад +29

    can you please make more "What if Goku was sent to Beerus's planet"? i was really enjoying it and it was really well thought out, i just can't wait to see where you might take it.

  • @peterstafford26
    @peterstafford26 3 года назад +152

    Isn't it that when the god of destruction does with no replacement the angel becomes inactive? This was said to goku during the gpku Black arc to explain where future whis was , so when shin died would whis become inactive too ?

    • @anonymousbanana204
      @anonymousbanana204 3 года назад +21

      @Pleasantry I think that when he said "inactive" he probably meant it as like going on hiatus or some shit.

    • @thanosisepic7146
      @thanosisepic7146 3 года назад +5

      “Gpku”
      Happens to me

    • @ianthecoolthief6226
      @ianthecoolthief6226 3 года назад +12

      I heard if the supreme Kai dies, not only does the G.O.D. die, but the angel is severely weakened and becomes inactive as a result. So Goku Black probably killed Whis after he assassinated the Kai's and subsequently Beerus.

    • @user-MB17
      @user-MB17 3 года назад

      @@ianthecoolthief6226 I doubt whis would allow goku black to kill him. Since he was inactive it wouldn’t have made a difference

    • @ejscion576
      @ejscion576 3 года назад +15

      Maybe the "inactive" part is like losing a job to the angels. It's not like they're going to die/sleep/weakened when their GoD dies as we have seen in the ToP. When Zeno erase the multiverse along with the supreme Kais and the GoDs, the angels alone seems to function very well and did not seems to be weakened after all

  • @fehces4566
    @fehces4566 3 года назад +10

    Its scary that he voiced so much characters and all of it was close to the real voice actors voices

  • @GamerGeek527
    @GamerGeek527 3 года назад +10

    I can't unsee gohan's lazy left eye (from gohan's position).

  • @grasshopper-ln9us
    @grasshopper-ln9us 2 года назад +2

    Been waiting for someone to make a video this!!!

  • @Starboy_Solly
    @Starboy_Solly 3 года назад +89

    PLS DO IF FUTURE GOTEN WAS A THING AND FUTURE TRUNKS CSME WITH HIM TO THE PAST

    • @ddl3718
      @ddl3718 3 года назад +1

      Calm down bruv

    • @ddl3718
      @ddl3718 3 года назад

      @Rubbix 3998 probably

    • @issac9894
      @issac9894 3 года назад +20

      What if deez nutz were in dragon ball

    • @ddl3718
      @ddl3718 3 года назад +9

      @@issac9894 HA, GOTEEM

    • @kieranistommorow
      @kieranistommorow 3 года назад +2

      @@issac9894 AAAYYYY GOTEEEM

  • @williamgolston5399
    @williamgolston5399 3 года назад +61

    Things would change going forward, because their power would be significantly greater. Learning SSG before that BOG ARC is a huge difference, especially with Gohan also learning it. Because they'd be so far ahead, defeating Goku Black would have been easier, especially if Gohan went along. Then the TOP would have faired differently with 3 SSB than just Goku and Vegeta. Probably see Gohan break his limits too. The stories would have a shift.

    • @MrSuperTeenGohan
      @MrSuperTeenGohan 10 месяцев назад +2

      On the other hand, in the normal canon they start training with Whiz after gaining SSJGod, and arguably, that headstart might just be offset by not training with Whiz. Who knows

  • @gspar116
    @gspar116 3 года назад +1

    This video was awesome I love where you took the story!

  • @johndoeyt2831
    @johndoeyt2831 3 года назад +3

    Wow carthu it's been awhile since I've watched you and you've come a long way congrats on 100k subs!

  • @charliewaldock1667
    @charliewaldock1667 3 года назад +20

    Loved this story, even more so because Gohan learned Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan Blue, and Goku and Vegeta both learned both forms earlier on.

  • @elvisushindi2584
    @elvisushindi2584 3 года назад +4

    Amazing video. Goku, Gohan and Vegeta becoming Super Saiyan Gods was surprisingly awesome and interesting.

  • @DanieliusGEG
    @DanieliusGEG 3 года назад +49

    Im pretty sure when a God of Destruction dies then the angel who serves the god will be disabled

    • @bennysontennyson
      @bennysontennyson 3 года назад +7

      nope, that's how Vados survived even when the 6th universe erased.

    • @marcochavezjr9180
      @marcochavezjr9180 3 года назад

      That's true

    • @animetronic6689
      @animetronic6689 3 года назад +4

      @@bennysontennyson erasure is different than death. You can’t die if your existence is erased.

    • @animetronic6689
      @animetronic6689 3 года назад

      @@secoTheSonicFan Death is when your life ends, and your life cannot end if it don’t exist.

    • @animetronic6689
      @animetronic6689 3 года назад +1

      @@secoTheSonicFan Gosh, you don’t need to freak out over something so little. Beerus won’t Hakai supreme Kai because that is would throw off the balance in the universe, not because he would die. It clearly would not be allowed.

  • @douglasmcfarland9040
    @douglasmcfarland9040 3 года назад

    Nice job on this one I really loved the line of reasoning you used for this video. I subscribed.

  • @brucwayn6403
    @brucwayn6403 3 года назад +3

    This was awesome and it honestly wouldve made things alot more interesting

  • @capesword111
    @capesword111 3 года назад +11

    Ironic how an unwise decision, both on Goku for doing it and the Supreme Kai for not recognizing Goku's complete conviction, ends up working out in spite of how easily it could derail everything. I thought that was very creative and logical.

  • @EnvisionedBlindness
    @EnvisionedBlindness 3 года назад +2

    Been subbed a long time but I hit the bell just for you my dude. Just for you
    Kidding, but for real good content. Keep up the good work

  • @TerraEmperor1
    @TerraEmperor1 3 года назад +20

    Great story, but missed opportunity to have Zamasu and kabito team against the mortals

  • @hatboi124
    @hatboi124 3 года назад +45

    I think beerus could have been hit by the candy beam. It makes more sense for Evil buu to have been prepared for it and for him to have been able to react and blow it back. But Beerus should have been surprised, and caught off guard. He might be able to dodge anyway, but he also might try to block. If he doesn't react in time, or he tries to block, he gets hit and turned into candy. But like, Vegito was fine when he was turned into candy, and I think beerus would likely be okay too, for all the same reasons.

    • @stevenldoe7838
      @stevenldoe7838 2 года назад +4

      Buu saga Vegito was able to control it. He is only an infinitesimal fraction compared to Beerus. Beerus has god ki, Hakaii and other hacs that goku doesn't

    • @gamercentral2417
      @gamercentral2417 2 года назад +2

      A sneeze for beerus is enough to destroy a moon while SLEEPING.
      You think that evil buu would stop it?

    • @MrSuperTeenGohan
      @MrSuperTeenGohan 10 месяцев назад +3

      In addition, if anything bad happened to Beerus due to being caught off guard, Whiz could just rewind time and give Beerus a do-over like when Frieza caught them off guard.

  • @mon4686
    @mon4686 3 года назад +8

    Goku: Imma Commit A *shin.*

  • @jadedrelic
    @jadedrelic 3 года назад

    Man this video was worth the wait

  • @Beavetowski
    @Beavetowski 3 года назад +14

    Would have loved to see Goku and Gohan fuse dance. They said it would be the most powerful out of any fusion.

  • @nico_.esquivel_
    @nico_.esquivel_ 3 года назад +5

    Loved the video, have seen many times since it came out, but wasn't Whis supposed to become stationary if Beerus died? Keep up the good work 💪🏿

  • @Maashu-Baandeddo
    @Maashu-Baandeddo 3 года назад +22

    I have a question though, wouldn’t have Whis been deactivated since if a god of destruction dies then their angel gets deactivated? I thought I heard of something like this during the Goku Black Arc.

    • @FirebirdPrince
      @FirebirdPrince 2 года назад +2

      I mean Whis couldn't necessarily do anything either way. Angels without a universe can just chill around as we see in the ToP.

  • @user-xd8om7fd4o
    @user-xd8om7fd4o 11 месяцев назад +2

    he said the fighters were overwhelmed with beerus's ki but mortals cant sence a gods ki 😮‍💨

  • @Dinkle_Berry
    @Dinkle_Berry 2 года назад +1

    i am in love with your content please never stop.

  • @jasonhearn5818
    @jasonhearn5818 10 месяцев назад +5

    Vegeta was beyond reckless...the fact that it even had to get to the point of Goku threatening to kill Supreme kai..

  • @affaaffaafjkfabhjkfa3708
    @affaaffaafjkfabhjkfa3708 3 года назад +20

    Buu would have tried to convert Beerus in food but he would obtain his power so when Beerus reverses the atack and eats BuuCookie he would also absorb him

    • @Fugitive685
      @Fugitive685 Год назад

      Magic is very different lol. Unless beerus knows magic, he can’t deflect the candy beam

    • @affaaffaafjkfabhjkfa3708
      @affaaffaafjkfabhjkfa3708 Год назад +1

      @@Fugitive685 Magic was negated by Vegetto Shield, pretty sure Beerus Ki Field can deflect some magic.

    • @AUTH0R-SAN
      @AUTH0R-SAN 4 месяца назад

      ​@@affaaffaafjkfabhjkfa3708 and Vegito is still strong even as a Candy

    • @Fugitive685
      @Fugitive685 4 месяца назад

      @@affaaffaafjkfabhjkfa3708understandable

  • @hankwiththedrip9338
    @hankwiththedrip9338 3 года назад +31

    Alternative Title: What if Goku, Vegeta, and Gohan got Super Saiyan God early?

    • @SilverSaiyanAce
      @SilverSaiyanAce 3 года назад +4

      Hey how do you feel knowing you don't have any real character development

    • @cheesefart570
      @cheesefart570 3 года назад

      @@SilverSaiyanAce be nice
      He still better than u6 bAckTiNGling
      SjJ

    • @hankwiththedrip9338
      @hankwiththedrip9338 3 года назад +2

      @@SilverSaiyanAce Pretty terrible, I'm a replica of my dad 😔

    • @SilverSaiyanAce
      @SilverSaiyanAce 3 года назад +2

      @@hankwiththedrip9338 yeah but hey at least you have character development in GT even if it isn't canon

    • @hankwiththedrip9338
      @hankwiththedrip9338 3 года назад

      @@SilverSaiyanAce true

  • @charlottehobday4495
    @charlottehobday4495 3 года назад +12

    In the Zamasu arc, Shin said that if a Destroyer and their Supreme Kai die, the angel attendant basically falls into a coma until a new Supreme Kai and Destroyer are appointed, hence why Future Whis never stepped in and took care of Zamasu, since the Anti-interference Angel laws wouldn’t apply to how big a threat Zamasu is. Also, If Frieza never got his power-up and Buu stayed dead, who would they get for their tenth person for the Tournament Of Power? Maybe Cell or Pikkon, maybe even have the Galactic Patrol make a plea deal with Moro?

    • @Memes01134
      @Memes01134 8 месяцев назад

      Not a coma but they will be out of service

  • @nicenamenicesurname8365
    @nicenamenicesurname8365 3 года назад +19

    Only 22% of the viewers are subscribed
    Me: i'm subbed right? What? No? Damn best to fix that.

  • @Scubaminister
    @Scubaminister Год назад +4

    No matter what the what if scenario is. Carthu’s answers the question “What if Gohan wasn’t worthless on purpose?”

  • @xnozicx
    @xnozicx 2 года назад

    I always love these little what is, I'll watch them on my breaks

  • @rayni5408
    @rayni5408 3 года назад

    Dude I literaly had a dream of you making this what if lol fr great scenario

  • @timlena8899
    @timlena8899 2 года назад +8

    I thought because elder kai was locked in the z sword, Beerus didn’t care what happened to the other Kai’s. As long as elder Kai was alive, Beerus would be alive, which is why he didn’t interfere with buu the first time he went around killing the original Kai’s

  • @reks672
    @reks672 3 года назад +14

    It might sounds odd but I think goku made that threat to assess vegeta and his full willingness to fight him goku is very aware of his surroundings when fighting someone and if vegeta reacted in shock like that goku would notice

  • @wintersotero9749
    @wintersotero9749 2 года назад

    This is a Very Great Concept !

  • @aldoaviles698
    @aldoaviles698 3 года назад +2

    I was just asking this question to that laughing stock video guys video when he made that video what if the tournament was not interrupted during the majin buu saga & this came out awsome

  • @BoyGamer100
    @BoyGamer100 10 месяцев назад +3

    I honestly feel like this is what should have been the real canon. It meshes perfectly with the rest of the stuff that comes after, and it just... fits. It makes sense. Really impressive "What IF" scenario.

  • @elementalcore3454
    @elementalcore3454 3 года назад +5

    I still say that there should be a what-if of: "What If the Gods in Dragonball Were Competent?"

  • @kylelloyd4437
    @kylelloyd4437 3 года назад

    Iv3 been waiting for you to do this.

  • @mastrorick
    @mastrorick 3 года назад +2

    Zamas: I KNEW IT

  • @LainsYTAccount
    @LainsYTAccount 2 года назад +4

    If this happen it will be a early introduction for whis and beerus

  • @cerioncarter6594
    @cerioncarter6594 3 года назад +3

    8:28 bulma: I can't since energy but I can fell that

  • @Papalapapp
    @Papalapapp 10 месяцев назад

    Amazing story! Really interesting!

  • @petecarrasquillo7056
    @petecarrasquillo7056 3 года назад +1

    This is 🔥🔥

  • @basedjiren3889
    @basedjiren3889 2 года назад +4

    I'm pretty sure the Daishinkan and Zuno would've had a problem with Shin being killed lmao

  • @MagicCardboardBox
    @MagicCardboardBox 3 года назад +4

    Aww, I wanted babidi to react to beerus, like-
    "OH FUCK!"

  • @That_Son_Ofa_Itch
    @That_Son_Ofa_Itch 3 года назад

    Subbed on all 3 of my accounts, I know this is meaningless to say. But im proud to support you brotha.

  • @LilBroAce
    @LilBroAce Год назад

    Just what I was looking for

  • @NateTmi
    @NateTmi 2 года назад +5

    I can't help but wonder if Whis would use his revers time when he got such an alert & then teleport to the supreme kiy to save him. I think it would be possible, but I don't know if it is likely

  • @janmichaelsantiago8919
    @janmichaelsantiago8919 3 года назад +8

    There's another plot hole to do this. Since Shin has an issue with goku, vegito will never happen and they will have issues in the goku black arc.

    • @sarcasticsuperjerk18
      @sarcasticsuperjerk18 3 года назад +3

      I'm pretty sure, as useless as Shin is, he would recognize that they need Vegito to gain the upperhand. I think Vegito would still happen, it'd just take longer because Shin would be moreso scared of Goku than angry at him.

    • @justag6118
      @justag6118 3 года назад +2

      Maybe there will be gogeta instead of vegeto

  • @elmostew2
    @elmostew2 3 года назад +1

    Whis would have never known even trillions of years later he’d still think beerus is asleep

  • @anthonywomack2260
    @anthonywomack2260 2 года назад +1

    Subscribed😎

  • @generalbutterscotch4887
    @generalbutterscotch4887 2 года назад +6

    I think the tournament of power arc could be made more interesting in this continuity if Gohan, Vegeta and Goku are so confident in their power that they don't see the need to recruit any other contestants.

    • @calvinkopp1735
      @calvinkopp1735 2 года назад +1

      Not unless Whis says about a mortal that’s above the realm of Destroyer Gods including Beerus. Plus Zeno and the Grand Priest commands for each universe to have 10 fighters to enter the Tournament. No more, no less.

    • @gamercentral2417
      @gamercentral2417 2 года назад

      Universe 7 would be erased for not meeting zenos standards and even if they didn’t they would’ve easily lost

    • @generalbutterscotch4887
      @generalbutterscotch4887 2 года назад

      @@gamercentral2417 Well thing is, Zeno is always willing to bend or alter the rules if he thinks it will make things more entertaining for him, so why would he pass up a classic underdog scenario? And besides, it's not like the fight against the Pride Troopers would go any differently even if they had _more_ than the allowed number of fighters. They might as well "leave it to the professionals".

    • @gamercentral2417
      @gamercentral2417 2 года назад

      @@generalbutterscotch4887 goku vegeta and gohan would not make it if they had less manpower. Leading to Zeno erasing them anyway.
      Plus, goku and vegeta only have better use of the god power that’s all that won’t make it any better against any of the opponents. And gohan cannot take everyone at once especially since he’s pretty cocky

  • @oldaccount8428
    @oldaccount8428 3 года назад +53

    I really dont think that beerus will revive after they revive shin with the spheres. Shin revives but beerrus dosent because he isnt a good person, a neutral one.

    • @estaveler3288
      @estaveler3288 3 года назад +27

      Well since shin and beerus are connected if he gets revived so will beerus

  • @osamatnt9830
    @osamatnt9830 2 года назад

    its cool how 1 second of time changed can change years to go on

  • @frankobustos9399
    @frankobustos9399 3 года назад

    by far this is my favorite one

  • @VersonalR
    @VersonalR 3 года назад +3

    Beerus: Whis I don’t feel so good

  • @Naruku2121
    @Naruku2121 2 года назад

    0:32
    That always get me, it's like, "Damn Kakarot I thought I was the bad guy here what the hell?"

  • @dbzgod3529
    @dbzgod3529 3 года назад

    it was intersting nice one

  • @Neirocity
    @Neirocity 3 года назад +12

    If you think about it, in all of the events during the Buu saga where Supreme Kai is constantly in danger from being killed off by vastly more powerful opponents, very irresponsible of Beerus and Whis not to interfere. Considering Supreme Kai and their Destruction Deity counterparts are connected and both die if one does, you'd think they'd be more protective of Supreme Kai. That concept was of course written in when DBS was made, and kind of a pointless one at that. In DBS I don't recall very often at all where Supreme Kai was in danger. So why create a Plot hole for Z when you don't have to?

    • @thepencil448
      @thepencil448 9 месяцев назад +5

      I think Super made it very clear that Beerus is incredibly irresponsible and bad at his job. I highly doubt that the purpose of a God of Destruction is to sleep for a million years, wake up, destroy some of the only planets with sentient life in the Universe, and then go back to sleep. Him not keeping a careful eye on the Supreme Kai, even for his own protection, is very in-character for him.

    • @supervegito2277
      @supervegito2277 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@thepencil448 Yeah i agree. Beerus getting off due to just sheer dumb luck, feels very in character
      ...also, just like this what if shows, the tension is still minimal as if Shin had died, him and Beerus woulda been revived with the Dragon Balls.
      And yeah that is how it should work, considering Kami and Piccolo, another life link, worked like that in the namek saga.

  • @codymcguire189
    @codymcguire189 3 года назад +8

    They would probably have just made hit stronger than he was in the original since he was introduced after....

  • @mr.papaveraceae3009
    @mr.papaveraceae3009 10 месяцев назад +1

    Wow. Holy shit. I had no idea it would have that kind of impact.

  • @basiliimakedonas1109
    @basiliimakedonas1109 4 месяца назад +1

    I don't think he'd actually kill him, he'd just had incapacitated him

  • @theartisticweeb9492
    @theartisticweeb9492 3 года назад +5

    Actually the tournament of power would go differently with no freiza, someone else would have to take his place meaning it’s possible that jerin would be too strong for goku and vegeta to stop and the broly movie wouldn’t happen without freiza

  • @bee-zeesoul1018
    @bee-zeesoul1018 3 года назад +4

    So I guess if Beerus had been a character in the 90's, then killing Supreme Kai would have worked out better in the long run than not killing him.

  • @Rumpel_Kiste
    @Rumpel_Kiste 3 года назад

    that was a really nice story. seeing gohan as god makes me exited

  • @Trap5656
    @Trap5656 3 года назад +2

    So basically all three (Goku, Gohan, and Vegeta) get access to God Ki here and is way stronger too. Plus most of the threats in Super are easier to deal with here. I'm hoping the next what if is either: What if Goku was born with God Ki? Part 8 or What if Gohan was like Goku? Part 3.
    What if suggestion:
    What if Future Gohan visited Trunks while training on the Supreme Kai's Planet?

  • @dano639
    @dano639 3 года назад +20

    Quick question: doesn't the GoD's angel "deactivate" (for lack of a better world) if the GoD is killed, or am I mistaken?

    • @eddyconveniencia4501
      @eddyconveniencia4501 2 года назад +3

      Yeah they go dormant until a new GoD is brought into play

    • @UnwantedGhost1
      @UnwantedGhost1 2 года назад +1

      I assume they go to the Grand Priest palace to remain there until a new Supreme Kai & GoD is made. Or they stay at the God of Destruction's world to not do anything that they do when their God of Destruction are around. Unless they literally shut down like a robot.

  • @luciferneverchanges5841
    @luciferneverchanges5841 11 месяцев назад +8

    Old Kai is still in the Z sword. It is just a question on whether or not Shin's sudden death would jolt Beerus awake or not. Everyone keeps forgetting that little tidbit.

    • @CarthusDojo
      @CarthusDojo  11 месяцев назад +12

      Elder Kai dies in the Boo Saga and his death doesn’t ever get mentioned as effecting Beerus. Shin’s life has ALWAYS been stated to be directly attached to Beerus and no one else’s.

  • @dbnyterthingidk
    @dbnyterthingidk 11 месяцев назад +1

    beerus: ahhh time to take a nap... wait wtf am i in heaven

  • @KioloSage
    @KioloSage 10 месяцев назад

    I actually love this small change

  • @eatsheet7087
    @eatsheet7087 2 года назад +5

    Goku and Vegeta would be stronger in the original timeline remember they trained 3 years before the universe 6 tournament. But since the timeline where goku killed the supreme kai never got the time chamber upgraded Goku and Vegeta wouldn't be able to train for 3 years therefore weaker than original timeline