And HDD was 200mb in the first 133mhz Pentium,. Man that was an upgrade from dos, when windows 3.11 was the shit,. Only used the Amiga to play double dragon 2. Lol
Timestamps: 00:00 - Tech's introduction and some history lessons 02:30 - Tech talks about 3D XPoint 03:27 - Tech segues to SSD endurance ft Samsung EVO 970 Plus 05:27 - Tech reveals Intel 905p Optane pricing, has a Pepperridge farm moment, and shares his thoughts 08:01 - Tech talks about a datacenter alternative: Intel Optane D4800X 09:05 - Tech talks about Optane in the context of tiered memory and caching for servers 11:57 - Tech has another Pepperridge Farm moment: RAM is cheap (per GB) today VS way back 12:37 - Tech mentions benchmarking platform details 13:15 - Tech segues discussing future builds and thanking Intel for sending the 9980XE and Optane 905p 13:56 - Tech's TL;DW on why and when the Intel 905p Optane is outright superior 17:43 - Tech recommends the 660p for most 18:42 - Tech shares his rationale for not running extensive tests on 905p 19:50 - Tech shows and analyzes charts from TweakTown 24:12 - Tech shows and analyzes his CrystalDiskMark results 27:11 - Tech concludes his review 28:49 - Tech's classic outro 29:55 - Tech last-minute-mentions he will do a comparison of 9980XE and his Threadripper build
Tbh, storage has gotten good enough that it isn't a bottleneck for most users in most workloads. It's great to see companies are still advancing the technology, but even if it were reasonably priced it wouldn't be hugely noticeable for most of us.
@@DARKNESS0x77 use machine learning to predict what websites and content you will consume and send hard drives through the mail that connect to your router to accelerate it. Won't work for recent videos and news, but will work for films and games. Upload is another question.
Storage would be a bottleneck if programmers would optimize for nvme drives. If they still focus on 5900rpm HDDs, sure storage does not seem like a bottleneck.
NAND SSDs and hard disks can get cheaper quickly because they are not proprietary technologies, everyone knows their mechanisms and all manufacturers can compete to drop the price. While optane isn't. Intel is even too reluctant to explain what the so called "x-point" is. There will be NO competitions in optane, and all the price drop is at great intel's mercy.
don't challenge chinese people, this could be all the proprietary thing you want but they built these from scratch. Give it a year and all the other companies would have an optane competitor product
I commented basically the same thing just a min ago lmao, I should have looked first. But yeah, Intel is not going to let go of that tech, they already tried to monopolize the prebuilt market with hp and Dell. What's to say they will ever lower the price
Sound Blaster & Voodoo were expensive... had to wait till after I bought a ps1 1999 to request one of em, Quake was awesome (PSX EMULATION using OpenGl felt superior)
I just want to say that you are the most informative PC channel I have come across and VERY detailed. I am a fan for life my good sir! Take care and keep up the great work that you do.
Indeed. He's not only extremely informative, but he backed his claims with facts and figures. Really makes you think forward. That's what makes him stand out amongst the tech reviewers out there. Subbed and liked. Great stuff!
@@tobyntoby and he is really really nice. He speaks clearly. His presentation is solid. He is soft spoken. He is the total opposite of "hey! Its ur boi ×××360noscope×××! What up! Shout out to my homies"
I'm still on a hard disk. Don't really care for the longer wait time... as long as it loads properly. I'm all for the storage capacity. 5TB for under $150, I'm good with that. Still can't beat the cost per GB of hard disks compared to SSD's.
@J Fz, mainly it's the software... Also, the random read/write is the reason why the difference is so slim. The bandwidth and speed is only destined to increase, there is nowhere else to go, the cpus are already much more faster than the rest of the pc, minus the gpus.
MetallicBlade - you can get a 128gb SSD for like $15. Put windows on that, keep your HDD in there for storage, and your machine will feel like 4x more responsive and launch stuff way faster.
Intel at least smart enough to know what RUclips tech person to show some love to you deserve it though so congrats on the new system brother keep up the good work!
Definitely possibe! And it would make motherboards smaller and cheaper. No need m2 slots, no need sata slots... you get cleaner and more compact motherboard, not to mention the speed you get normal query1 to query4 level usage! And yeah, I remember the time when we moved to pc beeper to proper sound cards! That was good time ;) And I Also remember now that first sound cards vere not actually too Great, but Little by Little (gravis uktrasound... Oh boy) They did become really nice indeed! Optane is still young and we don`t even see how good it will get or some similar implementation. Normal ssd Are getting to their peek. You need bigger contollers to increase the parallerism to get more speed. And there is limit in that way too. So we start ro see time when ssd speed does not go much higher any more, while there is a lot of things that can improve in optane... along the price of course!
Damn... my first hard drive had 20MB of storage - yes twenty MegaBytes. Now my cpu has more cache than that drive. Crazy stuff but I still love PC’s and tech no less than 25 years ago!
I was at Stevens when they made us buy the DEC Pro 350 -- 10 MegaBytes. The brother-in-law got them in at work -- 5 MB hard disk. And of course, any software anyone in the dorm bought was installed in everyone's drive. Including the DECus DND.
I had 286 with 40Mb HD, once keyboard on this machine stopped working, it took us a while to find a store that sells keyboards. (I lived in USSR then, probably in US buying keyboard was not such an issue)
First hard drive i saw in 1986 was at the CSU computer science department and it was 10 MB and it was the size of a shoebox and was worth around $2500 each.
I can see hybrid drives being viable and the standard the future. Imagine doing more with less motherboard. Minimalist builders would love it. So would motherboard manufacturers as that would probably bring in a new motherboard standard, at less production cost. 👍
Are you saying........ FOVEROS COMPUTER ON SINGLE CPU/GPU DIE 1NM QUANTUM GRAPHENE HYBRID ULTRA LOW TEMPERATURE XOC 10GHZ 100 CORES!!!!!!!!!!!! With a floppy disk drive?
Picked up a p1600x and, after partitioning it in half, looked up on Windows resource monitor what apps were accessing my disks the most. From there I saw that the page file, the user/appdata/roaming folder and the cache folder of my web browser were all doign the most. So I redirected everything to the optane and now my whole pc is working so much better. With the 2nd partition I setup a l2 read cache with primocache, along with 4 gb of ram cache for write caching. All in all my computer couldn't be happier though I've decided to buy a 2nd p1600x and dedicate one for page files and browser cached files, and scratch disks for productivity apps and use the 2nd for the primo cache.
That "thing" you talk about is the potential of unified memory, which is also the end of Von Neumann machines! This is the real radical change we could be moving toward: no more volitile memory. No need to load from storage to memory, because storage IS memory. Of course volitile memory will hang on, but we will use less and less of it and it will more and more be just the kind of cache we use near the CPU. The key issue here is that our computing experience will be very different. For example, every program, every program, will be "already loaded".
SSDs are the final frontier? What about ray tracing? ;) But honestly, right now GPUs can do 1 sample per pixel. NVIDIA really kickstarted a revolution in mathematics and algorithms for denoising. The denoisers we have today are unbelievably better than what we had just a few years ago. There's an actual revolution happening right now and it's all behind the curtains. A few years ago you would need 500,000-2,000,000 spp for a photorealistic image, where today you just need 50,000-200,000 spp. If we can reliably get that below the 100,000 spp mark, then all we need for photorealistic, fully ray traced gaming, are GPUs that are 100,000 times faster than a 2080 Ti. With the next RTX generation rumored to be able to do 4 spp, that already drops to just 25,000 times faster. Yes, it's still a long way off, but at least it's happening.
You cover topics that other channels either overlook or simply just don't care to discuss and that's just one of the many reasons why I like it here. Keep doing what you do.
I know sequential speeds mean nothing to day-to-day use, but when I do transfer a large file, or when I search across a big file, or - especially - when I unzip a 1-2GB file and it does that in the blink of an eye - it just brings a smile to my face. There's more examples, but it's really just those few moments when I remember it's NVMe and not SATA.
Ever go from floppy to hard drive? How about audio cassette (600 baud on the Atari 410) to floppy (90k storage, about 9600 baud max speed [bus speed, not sure if the floppy got that, but it must have]. Older types might remember paper tape. That's long before me.
@@wumpusthehunted2628 Yeah they had one of those audio tape drives at my grade school. My god was that thing ever slow. Floppy drives got a bit faster over time but CD's felt impossibly fast in comparison. Inspired by your use of the word baud; modems. I started with a 2400 baud. You could watch lines of text download it was so slow. Then 9600, then 14.4k, then 28.8k, (about 4kb a second) and finally the jump to lightspeed with cable modems @~100 kilobytes a second down. Of course cable is like 100x faster today than 20 years ago.
Well done Intel for supplying Tech with this new technology, as a result we all now understand and appreciate the advantages of 3D Crosspoint Optane as a result!👍
Very nice an professional review. Even with the disclamer that it was a gift from Intel, I fell like you made a fair review. Even for things I already know, I like watching you refresh my memory. Keep up the excellent work.
I experienced all of those mind blowing upgrades. The first one was when I upgraded my 286 to an 8 bit sound blaster, and suddenly Wolf 3d had wave based sound effects. I still had to run it in a small window to keep it playable, since it was only a 12Mhz 286.
Doom going from PC Speaker to a Soundblaster 16 was absolutely jaw dropping. I don’t think I’ve experienced anything as jaw dropping since. 3dfx Voodoo was a solid runner up.
Samsung's warranty is good. I had an EVO500g die (ugh). They emailed me a mailing label with paid 2nd day air to them. They received it and determined it was bad and sent a new drive next day air back to me. Total turn around of about a week. I love good customer service.
@@JohnSmith-mk8hz wonder if any maker honors warranty now without a receipt. eg WD and Seagate went by the manufacture date on the drive unless you have a receipt that said otherwise.
@@ojnik If I didn't have the receipt they may have done it another way, but I don't know for sure. I tend to keep my receipts for costly items just for this reason.
(Optane RAM) Nowhere in the world does this technology exist in consumer hardware. 1 Year later... PS5 using a technology take make loading games in real-time a reality. Never thought I'd see the day where consoles come out with features better than computers, but here we are.
I bought an Intel Optane 900P SSD (280GB) because I originally wanted the Star Citizen ship that came with it. That SSD is blazing fast. Now I want Optane in all of my future desktop upgrades.
Tomshardware reported, "In a surprising move with little fanfare, Intel announced that it is discontinuing all of its Optane-only SSDs for the consumer market. Surprisingly, the company says those drives aren't going to see Optane-only replacements, apparently marking the end of its enthusiast-geared Optane SSDs for desktop PCs." Intel discontinued the Optane Memory M10, 800P, 900P, and 905P SSDs, representing the entirety of its Optane-only family for desktop PCs. Intel's 900P and 905P
This bloke is easily the best pound for pound explainer of technology on RUclips. I always go to tech deals if I want information on certain products such as CPU's, GPU's etc. Thorough, factual, indepth analysis and well presented!!
I am there... Optane 480 GB system disk and 2 TB nand storage. I will never go back. There is also a big plus that isn't mentioned: The X-point tech don't need a volatile write buffer, so you will never get file system errors because of data the the OS has registered as written, but still is volatile at a power out or similar incident. This has save me twice after lightning has knocked out the power when I was not home and the UPS ran out of power. It was just firing up the system and directly back to use. No data loss, and no other problems on the boot drive. My hope is to have this machine/server up and running for at least 7 years, and that defends the price I payed buying the first Optane consumer drive on day 1...
I currently am using ENMOTUS Fuze 1000(49.95$ Level1Techs made me aware of this amazing tech) to link 4Gb's of DDR4 ,out of 2x16Gb 3600 Cas 16-19-19-39,a 380Gb 905p Optane m.2 110mm + a 4Tb Samsung EVO. Its amazing ! This serves as my Win 10/STEAM library drive setup,on a 3700x+2080Super gaming system. Older games go on my Intel 660p 2Tb drive which is hooked up to the X570 chipset,while the Optane operates through my 3700X. I get the benefits of a ramdrive,Optane 2nd gen, and cheap mass Nand storage. The QOL on this system is better then I imagined it.
I have been waiting for this video! For my next build I'm waiting for DDR5 (and new Intel architecture on desktop CPUs) hopefully in 2021 and will definitely be considering picking up a ~480 gig optane drive for my OS/ favorite game (maybe it will be helpful for massive open world/universe future games like Star Citizen that stream tons of data in and out) also hoping that by then either the price lowers OR an even better optane drive comes out. I have the $ to spend regardless and I just want one.
I bought an Optane 900P because of a Star Citizen promo. I wanted the ship that came with the drive. That SSD is blazing fast, even overkill for Star Citizen. Now I want Optane in all of my future desktop upgrades.
Oh i do remember and still have a fondness for sound cards. I also resent how it seems like pc gaming has *regressed* for audio quality and fidelity, because so many are tone deaf or don't even consider that sound support was just as important and mattered back in the day. I also remember how much mileage the family pc got on gaming thanks to the 3dfx Voodoo 3 it came with; at least until newer games just didn't use Glide anymore.
I've heard a few people make this claim but (genuinely) don't understand it. Could you explain it to me please? Also, baring in mind that I'm a moderate gamer with good midrange sound card/studio monitor, who produces music. This isn't a loaded question, btw.
@@Trancedd Back in the day I loved me a good sound card! for one, it was such a huge off-load of processing from the CPU, so when your 300MHz processor didn't need to also process audio it made a huge difference in performance. Then we started getting multi-core and multi-GHz processors, and audio processing simply is not that hard to do, so the need for a dedicated 'audio processor' became a moot point, but instead the quality came from having dedicated and isolated/shielded audio parts inside the computer. Then came USB2 and external audio devices, and it was amazing how clean and good the audio could be when it is simply moved outside of the computer case with a decent DAC. Now-a-days I simply do all the processing in the computer via software, then it goes out HDMI, and then ARC out to my sound bar, or direct to my bluetooth headphones with AptX. No real 'sound card' anywhere in the chain and it is cheaper and better quality than I have ever had before whith fewer parts and less messing around with settings. "it just works" and I havent thought about a sound card in years. I did use to run a Sound Blaster software package that basically added all of their magic and ran it on the CPU about 10 years ago... no idea if that is still a thing, but it worked great and completely removed my need for a dedicated hardware card. Since win10 I havent even messed with that though.
@@Trancedd You're aware of how DirectX works for graphics, right? It's an interface that can scale up/down code that affects fidelity based on how well your hardware supports those features. This is easy to see with a graphics card, as an old graphics card likely might have trouble handling effects that weren't possible until newer stuff showed up. Well, the thing is the same thing happened for sound back in the day. OpenAL is the current de-facto standard for audio support in modern games, which is all well and good, but it basically breaks compatibility with the older DirectSound standards, and especially with the likes of EAX on vintage and retro PC games. So you could have the most overkill pc in the world, but if your sound drivers can't report your audio capabilities in a way the game expects, then it dials things down pretty aggressively until it reaches a level it thinks your system can do. Microsoft switched to OpenAL as of Windows Vista, but provided no direct/clean way to still support (at the time) the majority of games expecting and only supporting flavors of EAX. To date, the only viable solution to address these games, is either an Asus Xonar series card with its own Xonar GX software, or a Creative Soundblaster X-Fi or newer that supports Creative's ALchemy software. GX and ALchemy translate those EAX function calls to something the sound driver can understand and process. I've no personal experience with Xonar cards as of yet, but my only turn-off is that GX only supports EAX 2, and 5... which does cover the majority of games just fine. But two *must-run* games for me are the Star Wars KOTOR games and stuff like Jedi Outcast, which support the rarer flavors of EAX. Only ALchemy can fully support ALL versions of EAX. Granted, there ARE some OpenAL patches out there, some made by the publishers, others by fans. but unless you're lucky where the game you want has that readily available, you need something like ALchemy or Xonar GX to translate for you on an OS past Windows XP. As such, one reason I despise Realtek with a passion, is not just for having inherently terrible audio quality, but absolutely refusing to even at least license support for such tech to at least provide a way to handle these games cleanly.
I remember my first SSD in 2012 I believe. Kingston hyper x 90 gig I think it was. for like 120 bucks !!! haha . but man that first time I booted on it.. it was glorious!!!
Imagine in the future where there is a drive that has a 10TB HDD, a 2TB SSD and a 250GB Optane all in one cage, and a smart algorithm that moves the right data to the right part of the drive, small but important data that is read frequently? Goes into optane, slightly larger data? Into the SSD. I know i will buy that in a blink.
hum... SSD technology nowadays are already making most HDDs kind of obsolete in many situations and I bet in the future SSDs prices will come closer and closer to HDDs. Personally I think in the coming years SSD will become the new standard for HDD and Optane will become the new SSD
@@dan_729 I have to disagree, HDDs might be slow for Windows or some apps, but they are definitely fast enough for stuff like media, backup and many games. Think in the future of getting a 6TB HDD for like 50$, SSDs in terms of Size are nowhere near that.
An important thing to note is that once you've reached the advertised TBW, your SSD is supposed to still work as good as new, as specified by JEDEC. So if you've used up your 600 TBW, it doesn't mean that the SSD is suddenly no longer reliable, it may very well have plenty of write cycles left.
Reminds me of when we had minicomputers in the '70's/'80s with magnetic core memory that was non-volatile memory before there was SRAM and DRAM storage. Just turn the computer on, and what you left in there was still around. You also didn't need boot ROMs, once you toggled in the bootstrap in memory it was just there as you as you didn't spew over it. Back in the early 1980's, we had a mainframe that had some "slow" core memory attached; rather than run code on it, it got used as a "RAM" disk that the OS thought of as high speed, fixed-head magnetic drum storage. If we look back far enough, you'll see OS architectures that just assumed large address spaces and referenced non-volatile storage by memory addresses for persistent storage of objects. Maybe we'll see this re-invented with Optane storage, where DDR DRAM is thought of a "L4" cache for the CPU, and we just execute "in-place" programs that are in the non-volatile part of addressable memory.
Been following Optane for the last 2 years , amazing technology which would benefit imensely of economies of scale in order to reach the mass market. Micron is working on releasing their own version of optane , which i suspect will ease the price.
I'm running an 860 EVO 500gb for my system drive and a 970 EVO 1tb M.2 NVME for a game drive. For me these are perfect and when I switched to the SSD for the system drive the performance shift was astounding. Not just for boot or system response but for games as well since so many games still store save and config data on the system drive so starting up a game and loading saves saw a dramatic change as well.
I'll be honest, what finally swayed me to using SSDs were the 2.5" SATA SSD with RGB lighting... And until they starting making RGB M.2 drives, I'll keep buying T-force's RGB galore...
I follow this channel for the tech deals and honest reviews. It's fun an interesting to occasionally have reviews of products like this. Thank you for the great content!
I had 286 with 40Mb HD, when one day keyboard on this machine stopped working, it took us a while to find store that sells keyboards. (I lived in USSR then, probably in US buying keyboard was not such an issue)
4 years later. Just picked up a new in box U.2 905p Optane for $299 on sale :D Gotta get this while we still can since intel/micron killed the product line sadly.
wow, this was a Real eyeopener as far as optane... sure ive heard of it b4 and as far as peak sequential speeds it seemed overpriced and underwhelming but this explanation show Why it costs what it costs and how it is in a different league.
$1,200 for a 1 TB Optane drive, wow. Going back, I think a 20 GB hard drive would have costed $1,200 back in 1997. In my main desktop PC, I have a 250 gb samsung 860 evo ssd with a 3 tb seagate hard drive which I have with an MSI x99a carbon gaming pro motherboard with an i7-6800k 6c/12t CPU with 16 gb g.skill ddr4 ram 3000 mhz quad channel ram and a GTX 1080 gpu. About the ideal gaming specs from 2016, still pretty good today.
I had a 480GB 900p but sold it because I preferred the 2TB of the Samsung drives. If I had the money I probably would have kept it. But now I have 5TB SSD total and no spinning drives except for the server.
Nice video, that SSD is very awesome, it's not for me today but maybe one day . I'll just buy a sata SSD and wait some years until this drops the price.
Good deal. NVME drives aren't really worth it either. Game loads and Boot times are literally just like a second off. NVME is mostly for large file transfers where it uses sequential read and write. Random Reads/Writes and such are about the same.
What do you think about the Samsung SSD PM1725a 1.6TB, PCIe 3.0 x8 (MZPLL1T6HEHP-00003)? Reads: 5840MB/s Writes: 2100MB/s IOPS 4K Reads/Writes 1000k/140k TBW 14.6PB Its random speed seems to be amazing.
IF You Have An OPTANE drive, You NEED an Uninterruptible Power Supply. The first time a power dropout hits your computer, you will lose EVERYTHING without it.
Well, I am now HD free. I run an all SSD PC, admittedly with Crucial SSD's. I only use a mechanical HD as an external backup. In part due to advice from Tech Deals! Even my old laptop has a 120GB SSD which was once used as a boot disk!
I'd happily run the 280GB version in an upcoming NAS build of mine if it were still available. The 480GB version is too pricey still, and it's too much drive for just running the FreeNAS OS with the PLEX Server add-on.
I knew optane was going to be big. My tech enthusiast coworkers thought it was just a dumb memory buffer. Which to be fair the way it was being marketed a couple years ago it was. But I knew about its endurance and that they would expand the drive space. This and 7nm are amazing achievements I didn't think I would see so soon.
this is like looking back at year 2000 the 256MB Creative MP3 player i bought that use to cost $100 then, any flash storage in couple of GB would cost an arm and a leg.
I remember back in the 90's seeing an 8MB memory stick for over $300
elite stuff
8MB. Couldn't even fit a .flac music file. Couldn't even fit a worksheet from Word let alone a pdf.
I remember paying $250 for a .5MB memory card for an Amiga 500.
And HDD was 200mb in the first 133mhz Pentium,. Man that was an upgrade from dos, when windows 3.11 was the shit,. Only used the Amiga to play double dragon 2. Lol
Good ole days.
Timestamps:
00:00 - Tech's introduction and some history lessons
02:30 - Tech talks about 3D XPoint
03:27 - Tech segues to SSD endurance ft Samsung EVO 970 Plus
05:27 - Tech reveals Intel 905p Optane pricing, has a Pepperridge farm moment, and shares his thoughts
08:01 - Tech talks about a datacenter alternative: Intel Optane D4800X
09:05 - Tech talks about Optane in the context of tiered memory and caching for servers
11:57 - Tech has another Pepperridge Farm moment: RAM is cheap (per GB) today VS way back
12:37 - Tech mentions benchmarking platform details
13:15 - Tech segues discussing future builds and thanking Intel for sending the 9980XE and Optane 905p
13:56 - Tech's TL;DW on why and when the Intel 905p Optane is outright superior
17:43 - Tech recommends the 660p for most
18:42 - Tech shares his rationale for not running extensive tests on 905p
19:50 - Tech shows and analyzes charts from TweakTown
24:12 - Tech shows and analyzes his CrystalDiskMark results
27:11 - Tech concludes his review
28:49 - Tech's classic outro
29:55 - Tech last-minute-mentions he will do a comparison of 9980XE and his Threadripper build
I appreciate your afforts brother!
I was just thinking we need a new hero.
Tbh, storage has gotten good enough that it isn't a bottleneck for most users in most workloads. It's great to see companies are still advancing the technology, but even if it were reasonably priced it wouldn't be hugely noticeable for most of us.
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NEVER OBSOLETE
However the Internet is still a bottleneck that you can do nothing to improve it
@@DARKNESS0x77 use machine learning to predict what websites and content you will consume and send hard drives through the mail that connect to your router to accelerate it. Won't work for recent videos and news, but will work for films and games. Upload is another question.
The greatest bottleneck nowadays are the programers lol
Storage would be a bottleneck if programmers would optimize for nvme drives. If they still focus on 5900rpm HDDs, sure storage does not seem like a bottleneck.
NAND SSDs and hard disks can get cheaper quickly because they are not proprietary technologies, everyone knows their mechanisms and all manufacturers can compete to drop the price.
While optane isn't.
Intel is even too reluctant to explain what the so called "x-point" is. There will be NO competitions in optane, and all the price drop is at great intel's mercy.
That's why we need capitalism to fuel this competition. Furthermore, there is no doubt that this is the definitive way of archiving data.
don't challenge chinese people, this could be all the proprietary thing you want but they built these from scratch.
Give it a year and all the other companies would have an optane competitor product
How it works: pcper.com/2017/06/how-3d-xpoint-phase-change-memory-works/
Two companies make it - Intel and Micron.
Only untill they piss off an employee and then it's free game...lol Ollie's chicken shat all over KFC back in the day.
Confused.......
I commented basically the same thing just a min ago lmao, I should have looked first.
But yeah, Intel is not going to let go of that tech, they already tried to monopolize the prebuilt market with hp and Dell. What's to say they will ever lower the price
I'm lucky, I have passed through all stages Sound Blaster, Vooodoo 1, SSD
Same. I get young PC gamers in work looking at me quizzically when I mention sound cards. Maaaaan I feel old. :D
Sound Blaster & Voodoo were expensive... had to wait till after I bought a ps1 1999 to request one of em, Quake was awesome (PSX EMULATION using OpenGl felt superior)
My current PC includes an Optane 900P SSD, a Sound Blaster ZxR, 2 RTX 2080s Super NVLinked and an i9-9900K.
@@Patrick73787 ADOPT ME PLZ 😂
I have my PC going into my Home Stereo Receiver now. How times have changed.
I just want to say that you are the most informative PC channel I have come across and VERY detailed. I am a fan for life my good sir! Take care and keep up the great work that you do.
Same here,! I am brazilian and i love this Channel
Indeed. He's not only extremely informative, but he backed his claims with facts and figures. Really makes you think forward. That's what makes him stand out amongst the tech reviewers out there. Subbed and liked. Great stuff!
@@tobyntoby and he is really really nice. He speaks clearly. His presentation is solid. He is soft spoken. He is the total opposite of "hey! Its ur boi ×××360noscope×××! What up! Shout out to my homies"
Check out GamersNexus also.
Game loads 2 sec faster
worth it
Worth it, pleabs :)
I'm still on a hard disk. Don't really care for the longer wait time... as long as it loads properly. I'm all for the storage capacity. 5TB for under $150, I'm good with that. Still can't beat the cost per GB of hard disks compared to SSD's.
@J Fz, mainly it's the software... Also, the random read/write is the reason why the difference is so slim.
The bandwidth and speed is only destined to increase, there is nowhere else to go, the cpus are already much more faster than the rest of the pc, minus the gpus.
Really we need quantum RAM disks for loading up those Gears 5 hi res textures faster
MetallicBlade - you can get a 128gb SSD for like $15. Put windows on that, keep your HDD in there for storage, and your machine will feel like 4x more responsive and launch stuff way faster.
I love this no-nonsense, straight to the point reviews. Keep up the good work. :)
Intel at least smart enough to know what RUclips tech person to show some love to you deserve it though so congrats on the new system brother keep up the good work!
Definitely possibe! And it would make motherboards smaller and cheaper. No need m2 slots, no need sata slots... you get cleaner and more compact motherboard, not to mention the speed you get normal query1 to query4 level usage!
And yeah, I remember the time when we moved to pc beeper to proper sound cards! That was good time ;)
And I Also remember now that first sound cards vere not actually too Great, but Little by Little (gravis uktrasound... Oh boy) They did become really nice indeed!
Optane is still young and we don`t even see how good it will get or some similar implementation. Normal ssd Are getting to their peek. You need bigger contollers to increase the parallerism to get more speed. And there is limit in that way too. So we start ro see time when ssd speed does not go much higher any more, while there is a lot of things that can improve in optane... along the price of course!
Damn... my first hard drive had 20MB of storage - yes twenty MegaBytes. Now my cpu has more cache than that drive. Crazy stuff but I still love PC’s and tech no less than 25 years ago!
how old are u sir
I was at Stevens when they made us buy the DEC Pro 350 -- 10 MegaBytes. The brother-in-law got them in at work -- 5 MB hard disk. And of course, any software anyone in the dorm bought was installed in everyone's drive. Including the DECus DND.
I had 286 with 40Mb HD, once keyboard on this machine stopped working, it took us a while to find a store that sells keyboards. (I lived in USSR then, probably in US buying keyboard was not such an issue)
First hard drive i saw in 1986 was at the CSU computer science department and it was 10 MB and it was the size of a shoebox and was worth around $2500 each.
I can see hybrid drives being viable and the standard the future.
Imagine doing more with less motherboard. Minimalist builders would love it. So would motherboard manufacturers as that would probably bring in a new motherboard standard, at less production cost. 👍
Are you saying........
FOVEROS COMPUTER ON SINGLE CPU/GPU DIE 1NM QUANTUM GRAPHENE HYBRID ULTRA LOW TEMPERATURE XOC 10GHZ 100 CORES!!!!!!!!!!!!
With a floppy disk drive?
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You explain tech very well and although you are thorough you're never boring. I often learn something new through your videos.
Indeed, enthusiasm can be charismatic and charisma is usually what a lot of people like in others. It is a very good presentation.
Picked up a p1600x and, after partitioning it in half, looked up on Windows resource monitor what apps were accessing my disks the most. From there I saw that the page file, the user/appdata/roaming folder and the cache folder of my web browser were all doign the most. So I redirected everything to the optane and now my whole pc is working so much better. With the 2nd partition I setup a l2 read cache with primocache, along with 4 gb of ram cache for write caching. All in all my computer couldn't be happier though I've decided to buy a 2nd p1600x and dedicate one for page files and browser cached files, and scratch disks for productivity apps and use the 2nd for the primo cache.
That "thing" you talk about is the potential of unified memory, which is also the end of Von Neumann machines! This is the real radical change we could be moving toward: no more volitile memory. No need to load from storage to memory, because storage IS memory. Of course volitile memory will hang on, but we will use less and less of it and it will more and more be just the kind of cache we use near the CPU. The key issue here is that our computing experience will be very different. For example, every program, every program, will be "already loaded".
Remember what IDE drives used to cost back in the day? The youngsters have no idea what we was paying for stuff back then lol.
SSDs are the final frontier? What about ray tracing? ;)
But honestly, right now GPUs can do 1 sample per pixel. NVIDIA really kickstarted a revolution in mathematics and algorithms for denoising. The denoisers we have today are unbelievably better than what we had just a few years ago. There's an actual revolution happening right now and it's all behind the curtains. A few years ago you would need 500,000-2,000,000 spp for a photorealistic image, where today you just need 50,000-200,000 spp. If we can reliably get that below the 100,000 spp mark, then all we need for photorealistic, fully ray traced gaming, are GPUs that are 100,000 times faster than a 2080 Ti.
With the next RTX generation rumored to be able to do 4 spp, that already drops to just 25,000 times faster. Yes, it's still a long way off, but at least it's happening.
more efficient rendering techniques are always in the works and I love it.
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You cover topics that other channels either overlook or simply just don't care to discuss and that's just one of the many reasons why I like it here. Keep doing what you do.
This guy is the best in the game when it comes to explaining tech.
I know sequential speeds mean nothing to day-to-day use, but when I do transfer a large file, or when I search across a big file, or - especially - when I unzip a 1-2GB file and it does that in the blink of an eye - it just brings a smile to my face. There's more examples, but it's really just those few moments when I remember it's NVMe and not SATA.
DEEEEMMMM I em old ;-);-);-)
I fellt all that trills you speak of :-)
Same
Ever go from floppy to hard drive? How about audio cassette (600 baud on the Atari 410) to floppy (90k storage, about 9600 baud max speed [bus speed, not sure if the floppy got that, but it must have].
Older types might remember paper tape. That's long before me.
@@wumpusthehunted2628 Yeah they had one of those audio tape drives at my grade school. My god was that thing ever slow. Floppy drives got a bit faster over time but CD's felt impossibly fast in comparison. Inspired by your use of the word baud; modems. I started with a 2400 baud. You could watch lines of text download it was so slow. Then 9600, then 14.4k, then 28.8k, (about 4kb a second) and finally the jump to lightspeed with cable modems @~100 kilobytes a second down. Of course cable is like 100x faster today than 20 years ago.
Well done Intel for supplying Tech with this new technology, as a result we all now understand and appreciate the advantages of 3D Crosspoint Optane as a result!👍
Kids in 2030:
"What do you mean by game loading time?"
Lol...they will potentially have to wait longer. Can you imagine what a game file will look like in 10 years?
@@MoragTong_ About same tbh 100-300GB.
@@ExacoMvm LOL. CYBERPUNK is already more than 100 gb. Whaddya expect in 10 years?
@@khaleafplayz3579 adequate compression? >.
It depends on the size of the game and optimization... So you never grow up if you think that way... Maybe you are one of those kids xD
Very nice an professional review. Even with the disclamer that it was a gift from Intel, I fell like you made a fair review. Even for things I already know, I like watching you refresh my memory. Keep up the excellent work.
I remember buying my first SSD, it was around £2.00-2.50 per GB and for a 120GB drive I paid £249... And that was a deal price too!
Yeah haha... my 1st card was a Voodoo 3D FX, and sound card "Creative Sound Blaster live"!
Thanks again Tech for the nice vid :)
5:52... 🤣🤣🤣 why you gotta put me in the spot like that 💀
Too bad Intel discontinued consumer grade 3D X-point solutions. I am happy I actually bought one Optane 900P (480Gb version).
You're in the bigtime now if Intel is sending you that top of the line gear, good buddy!
I experienced all of those mind blowing upgrades. The first one was when I upgraded my 286 to an 8 bit sound blaster, and suddenly Wolf 3d had wave based sound effects. I still had to run it in a small window to keep it playable, since it was only a 12Mhz 286.
Doom going from PC Speaker to a Soundblaster 16 was absolutely jaw dropping. I don’t think I’ve experienced anything as jaw dropping since. 3dfx Voodoo was a solid runner up.
Samsung's warranty is good. I had an EVO500g die (ugh). They emailed me a mailing label with paid 2nd day air to them. They received it and determined it was bad and sent a new drive next day air back to me. Total turn around of about a week. I love good customer service.
what? they paid for the shipping? last time I did a WD or Seagate hard drive, it cost me almost the same as a new drive to ship it back for RMA.
@@ojnik Yes they paid air freight both ways. They only asked me to email them a picture of the receipt. Very good no hassle warranty.
@@JohnSmith-mk8hz wonder if any maker honors warranty now without a receipt. eg WD and Seagate went by the manufacture date on the drive unless you have a receipt that said otherwise.
@@ojnik If I didn't have the receipt they may have done it another way, but I don't know for sure. I tend to keep my receipts for costly items just for this reason.
What was the cause of failure, or circumstances surrounding the drive failure?
(Optane RAM) Nowhere in the world does this technology exist in consumer hardware.
1 Year later... PS5 using a technology take make loading games in real-time a reality.
Never thought I'd see the day where consoles come out with features better than computers, but here we are.
I bought an Intel Optane 900P SSD (280GB) because I originally wanted the Star Citizen ship that came with it. That SSD is blazing fast. Now I want Optane in all of my future desktop upgrades.
Tomshardware reported, "In a surprising move with little fanfare, Intel announced that it is discontinuing all of its Optane-only SSDs for the consumer market. Surprisingly, the company says those drives aren't going to see Optane-only replacements, apparently marking the end of its enthusiast-geared Optane SSDs for desktop PCs."
Intel discontinued the Optane Memory M10, 800P, 900P, and 905P SSDs, representing the entirety of its Optane-only family for desktop PCs. Intel's 900P and 905P
This bloke is easily the best pound for pound explainer of technology on RUclips. I always go to tech deals if I want information on certain products such as CPU's, GPU's etc. Thorough, factual, indepth analysis and well presented!!
As of 11-15-2021, The 905P is going for 549 on newegg. My man is right about the price drops.
I am there... Optane 480 GB system disk and 2 TB nand storage. I will never go back. There is also a big plus that isn't mentioned: The X-point tech don't need a volatile write buffer, so you will never get file system errors because of data the the OS has registered as written, but still is volatile at a power out or similar incident. This has save me twice after lightning has knocked out the power when I was not home and the UPS ran out of power.
It was just firing up the system and directly back to use. No data loss, and no other problems on the boot drive. My hope is to have this machine/server up and running for at least 7 years, and that defends the price I payed buying the first Optane consumer drive on day 1...
“… for those who go back that far.”
Yes I go back that far. U got a subscriber.
Does anyone else hold on to old IDE era parts dating back to the time mentioned at the beginning of this video?
Yeah I have 2 IDE hard drives in the closet along with several 100 3.5 HD floppies.
I currently am using ENMOTUS Fuze 1000(49.95$ Level1Techs made me aware of this amazing tech) to link 4Gb's of DDR4 ,out of 2x16Gb 3600 Cas 16-19-19-39,a 380Gb 905p Optane m.2 110mm + a 4Tb Samsung EVO. Its amazing ! This serves as my Win 10/STEAM library drive setup,on a 3700x+2080Super gaming system. Older games go on my Intel 660p 2Tb drive which is hooked up to the X570 chipset,while the Optane operates through my 3700X. I get the benefits of a ramdrive,Optane 2nd gen, and cheap mass Nand storage. The QOL on this system is better then I imagined it.
I remember all of those old upgrades... Thanks for making me feel old Tech...
Haha, for me, the first big leap in computer performance was when I moved from cassette tape drives to 5.25” floppy disk drives. :)
I really love the 80s vibe in everyone of your video's!
Greetings from one of your subscribers in the UK...Great review!!!
I still have my voodoo 2 SLi and sound blaster 16 running in my closet!! Woot woot!
When you said "128 GBs of RAM" I nearly spit my iced tea out and all over my monitor.
The new Cascade Lake-X platform is expected to 256GB (8 x 32GB).
www.tomshardware.com/news/cascade-lake-x-10000-series-branding,40202.html
I have been waiting for this video! For my next build I'm waiting for DDR5 (and new Intel architecture on desktop CPUs) hopefully in 2021 and will definitely be considering picking up a ~480 gig optane drive for my OS/ favorite game (maybe it will be helpful for massive open world/universe future games like Star Citizen that stream tons of data in and out) also hoping that by then either the price lowers OR an even better optane drive comes out. I have the $ to spend regardless and I just want one.
I bought an Optane 900P because of a Star Citizen promo. I wanted the ship that came with the drive. That SSD is blazing fast, even overkill for Star Citizen. Now I want Optane in all of my future desktop upgrades.
Oh i do remember and still have a fondness for sound cards. I also resent how it seems like pc gaming has *regressed* for audio quality and fidelity, because so many are tone deaf or don't even consider that sound support was just as important and mattered back in the day. I also remember how much mileage the family pc got on gaming thanks to the 3dfx Voodoo 3 it came with; at least until newer games just didn't use Glide anymore.
I've heard a few people make this claim but (genuinely) don't understand it. Could you explain it to me please? Also, baring in mind that I'm a moderate gamer with good midrange sound card/studio monitor, who produces music. This isn't a loaded question, btw.
@@Trancedd Back in the day I loved me a good sound card! for one, it was such a huge off-load of processing from the CPU, so when your 300MHz processor didn't need to also process audio it made a huge difference in performance. Then we started getting multi-core and multi-GHz processors, and audio processing simply is not that hard to do, so the need for a dedicated 'audio processor' became a moot point, but instead the quality came from having dedicated and isolated/shielded audio parts inside the computer. Then came USB2 and external audio devices, and it was amazing how clean and good the audio could be when it is simply moved outside of the computer case with a decent DAC.
Now-a-days I simply do all the processing in the computer via software, then it goes out HDMI, and then ARC out to my sound bar, or direct to my bluetooth headphones with AptX. No real 'sound card' anywhere in the chain and it is cheaper and better quality than I have ever had before whith fewer parts and less messing around with settings. "it just works" and I havent thought about a sound card in years.
I did use to run a Sound Blaster software package that basically added all of their magic and ran it on the CPU about 10 years ago... no idea if that is still a thing, but it worked great and completely removed my need for a dedicated hardware card. Since win10 I havent even messed with that though.
@@Trancedd You're aware of how DirectX works for graphics, right? It's an interface that can scale up/down code that affects fidelity based on how well your hardware supports those features. This is easy to see with a graphics card, as an old graphics card likely might have trouble handling effects that weren't possible until newer stuff showed up. Well, the thing is the same thing happened for sound back in the day. OpenAL is the current de-facto standard for audio support in modern games, which is all well and good, but it basically breaks compatibility with the older DirectSound standards, and especially with the likes of EAX on vintage and retro PC games. So you could have the most overkill pc in the world, but if your sound drivers can't report your audio capabilities in a way the game expects, then it dials things down pretty aggressively until it reaches a level it thinks your system can do. Microsoft switched to OpenAL as of Windows Vista, but provided no direct/clean way to still support (at the time) the majority of games expecting and only supporting flavors of EAX.
To date, the only viable solution to address these games, is either an Asus Xonar series card with its own Xonar GX software, or a Creative Soundblaster X-Fi or newer that supports Creative's ALchemy software. GX and ALchemy translate those EAX function calls to something the sound driver can understand and process. I've no personal experience with Xonar cards as of yet, but my only turn-off is that GX only supports EAX 2, and 5... which does cover the majority of games just fine. But two *must-run* games for me are the Star Wars KOTOR games and stuff like Jedi Outcast, which support the rarer flavors of EAX. Only ALchemy can fully support ALL versions of EAX. Granted, there ARE some OpenAL patches out there, some made by the publishers, others by fans. but unless you're lucky where the game you want has that readily available, you need something like ALchemy or Xonar GX to translate for you on an OS past Windows XP.
As such, one reason I despise Realtek with a passion, is not just for having inherently terrible audio quality, but absolutely refusing to even at least license support for such tech to at least provide a way to handle these games cleanly.
I remember my first SSD in 2012 I believe. Kingston hyper x 90 gig I think it was. for like 120 bucks !!! haha . but man that first time I booted on it.. it was glorious!!!
To be pedantic, NAND isn't an acronym, it's named after the logic gate type (because the NAND flash layout resembles that of NAND gates).
You're right, brain fart on my part! No idea what I was thinking...
@@TechDeals It's okay Tech, we know you're human like the rest of us :-D
in full screen mode white background is too little bright, your videos are excellent
If you cover your screen with a light coating of beetroot oil it can help to give a showy glamorous glare.
takearide Blame 🍏 Apple 🍎. They started this many years ago.
Trancedd I find red oxide (Iron) and Olive oil gives a more professional finish.
Imagine in the future where there is a drive that has a 10TB HDD, a 2TB SSD and a 250GB Optane all in one cage, and a smart algorithm that moves the right data to the right part of the drive, small but important data that is read frequently? Goes into optane, slightly larger data? Into the SSD. I know i will buy that in a blink.
hum... SSD technology nowadays are already making most HDDs kind of obsolete in many situations and I bet in the future SSDs prices will come closer and closer to HDDs. Personally I think in the coming years SSD will become the new standard for HDD and Optane will become the new SSD
@@dan_729 I have to disagree, HDDs might be slow for Windows or some apps, but they are definitely fast enough for stuff like media, backup and many games.
Think in the future of getting a 6TB HDD for like 50$, SSDs in terms of Size are nowhere near that.
An important thing to note is that once you've reached the advertised TBW, your SSD is supposed to still work as good as new, as specified by JEDEC. So if you've used up your 600 TBW, it doesn't mean that the SSD is suddenly no longer reliable, it may very well have plenty of write cycles left.
My 11 year old Intel x25 80GB is still pulling boot drive duty in my moms computer. Still works perfectly. Good drive.
Awesome... those things are a rock...
I can't wait until they have a pcie gen 4 version. Does anyone know if Samdung has a comparative version?
Back in 1981 my first computer the Sinclair ZX81 had only 1.5 Kilobytes of ram.
Thanks for the info! i am considering 905p for my OS drive in the new build
Intel Optane with Buffers would be ideal consumer drives since DRAM buffer write, I am sure, is often being measured until the buffer is full.
I just picked up a 905p 960gb u.2 model. Newegg has a good discount going on guys. $390usd atm
How fast Windows boots with it compared to 970 EVO
I think the boot time won't be that much of a difference.. for boot time a sata 2.5 inch ssd would do the job pretty fine.
@@Rainyumz that was correct on i7 7700 SATA vs. nvme. Today on i9 nvme vs Optane might be different. Or not, but would be nice to actually see
7:05 it is more expensive, but it is not 29 times more expensive. - "thats our serial killer salesman" :D
- Tech Deals 2019
You deserve far more views/subscribers. Quality is always excellent and you provide in-depth technical information!
Reminds me of when we had minicomputers in the '70's/'80s with magnetic core memory that was non-volatile memory before there was SRAM and DRAM storage. Just turn the computer on, and what you left in there was still around. You also didn't need boot ROMs, once you toggled in the bootstrap in memory it was just there as you as you didn't spew over it.
Back in the early 1980's, we had a mainframe that had some "slow" core memory attached; rather than run code on it, it got used as a "RAM" disk that the OS thought of as high speed, fixed-head magnetic drum storage.
If we look back far enough, you'll see OS architectures that just assumed large address spaces and referenced non-volatile storage by memory addresses for persistent storage of objects. Maybe we'll see this re-invented with Optane storage, where DDR DRAM is thought of a "L4" cache for the CPU, and we just execute "in-place" programs that are in the non-volatile part of addressable memory.
Been following Optane for the last 2 years , amazing technology which would benefit imensely of economies of scale in order to reach the mass market. Micron is working on releasing their own version of optane , which i suspect will ease the price.
I'm hypnotized by this man's mouth.
And we'll get key-value reads/writes in the future. Versus the disk block reads/writes we get now.
This kind of SSD are normal in DC which means data centre.Our DC bought about 500 2TB version of this.
Had to watch again with consumer optane going away. I wonder what you think about everything now?
I'm running an 860 EVO 500gb for my system drive and a 970 EVO 1tb M.2 NVME for a game drive. For me these are perfect and when I switched to the SSD for the system drive the performance shift was astounding. Not just for boot or system response but for games as well since so many games still store save and config data on the system drive so starting up a game and loading saves saw a dramatic change as well.
I'll be honest, what finally swayed me to using SSDs were the 2.5" SATA SSD with RGB lighting... And until they starting making RGB M.2 drives, I'll keep buying T-force's RGB galore...
I follow this channel for the tech deals and honest reviews. It's fun an interesting to occasionally have reviews of products like this. Thank you for the great content!
That will be totally revolutionize the programe access time.
I had 286 with 40Mb HD, when one day keyboard on this machine stopped working, it took us a while to find store that sells keyboards. (I lived in USSR then, probably in US buying keyboard was not such an issue)
4 years later. Just picked up a new in box U.2 905p Optane for $299 on sale :D Gotta get this while we still can since intel/micron killed the product line sadly.
wow, this was a Real eyeopener as far as optane... sure ive heard of it b4 and as far as peak sequential speeds it seemed overpriced and underwhelming but this explanation show Why it costs what it costs and how it is in a different league.
$1,200 for a 1 TB Optane drive, wow. Going back, I think a 20 GB hard drive would have costed $1,200 back in 1997. In my main desktop PC, I have a 250 gb samsung 860 evo ssd with a 3 tb seagate hard drive which I have with an MSI x99a carbon gaming pro motherboard with an i7-6800k 6c/12t CPU with 16 gb g.skill ddr4 ram 3000 mhz quad channel ram and a GTX 1080 gpu. About the ideal gaming specs from 2016, still pretty good today.
Awesome I was researching these lately! Love your channel, always great analysis.
Kudos for the cross-links to the other content creators.
Early 90's - Wolf3D - PC speaker to Sound Blaster.
Late 90's - Resident Evil - PC release - Made me get a Diamond Monster 3D.
Hah. Video games.
The bad thing, with the advent of the CD, no more manuals, printed on paper! I loved those manuals, and still have many of them.
I too was one of those crazy x25m owners. 80gb for $650
*In 2004 i bought a 128MB USB Stick for $50 for school assignments...*
Nice to see you always do quality work TD. Keep it up.
I had a 480GB 900p but sold it because I preferred the 2TB of the Samsung drives. If I had the money I probably would have kept it. But now I have 5TB SSD total and no spinning drives except for the server.
Back in 1996 my dad handed me a Victor with a 20MB hard drive and said that's all I would ever need.
Nice video, that SSD is very awesome, it's not for me today but maybe one day . I'll just buy a sata SSD and wait some years until this drops the price.
Good deal. NVME drives aren't really worth it either. Game loads and Boot times are literally just like a second off. NVME is mostly for large file transfers where it uses sequential read and write. Random Reads/Writes and such are about the same.
What do you think about the Samsung SSD PM1725a 1.6TB, PCIe 3.0 x8 (MZPLL1T6HEHP-00003)?
Reads: 5840MB/s
Writes: 2100MB/s
IOPS 4K Reads/Writes 1000k/140k
TBW 14.6PB
Its random speed seems to be amazing.
IF You Have An OPTANE drive, You NEED an Uninterruptible Power Supply. The first time a power dropout hits your computer, you will lose EVERYTHING without it.
BTW... forgot one thing... going from 2400baud, to 56000baud modems, to cable modems! 😆
No SSD manufacturers now write 4 times per cluster so when the drive is half full on a copy it drops to slower than a rust spinner
Well, I am now HD free. I run an all SSD PC, admittedly with Crucial SSD's. I only use a mechanical HD as an external backup. In part due to advice from Tech Deals! Even my old laptop has a 120GB SSD which was once used as a boot disk!
You said you were going to link the tweaktown and linus tech tips in the description, but apparently you did not.
I'd happily run the 280GB version in an upcoming NAS build of mine if it were still available. The 480GB version is too pricey still, and it's too much drive for just running the FreeNAS OS with the PLEX Server add-on.
The Samsung in the Netherlands is actually marketted as an TLC NVMe drive not MLC.
wonder if intel will end up killing off their new gpu's at some point too
I knew optane was going to be big. My tech enthusiast coworkers thought it was just a dumb memory buffer. Which to be fair the way it was being marketed a couple years ago it was. But I knew about its endurance and that they would expand the drive space. This and 7nm are amazing achievements I didn't think I would see so soon.
New,cutting edge tech is and always been expensive,its always been so.Thank god for the test-buyers/Early-adoptors!
this is like looking back at year 2000 the 256MB Creative MP3 player i bought that use to cost $100 then, any flash storage in couple of GB would cost an arm and a leg.
Still very expressive and critical for PC performance as it is. Maybe the PC need to re designef around it to become usfull