When Pilots Are The Last Line of Defence | Mayday: Science of Disaster | Wonder
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- Опубликовано: 21 май 2024
- When something goes wrong onboard a passenger airliner, the pilot and crew are sometimes the last chance of salvation. They can also cause the crash accidentally. In the cases of China Airlines Flight 006 and Aeroflot Flight 593 it is the pilots skill and quick thinking that saved hundreds of lives. Who's in the cockpit when something goes wrong could make all the difference.
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You know you've watched way too many ACI documentaries when you've seen the full video of all the examples shown in this documentary.
I know right😅😂
pretty much lol
Hahahaha…me, too. We need a life, brother!
ACI? What's ACI?
@@QueenOfCatsX3 air crash investigation
I somehow love how at 19:55, the guy casually said "You can see the people who didn't have the seatbelt on, they were flying."
I bet the fella you speak of is a folk hero back home 🤣
The actors in the Aeroperu 593 cockpit are real pros and very believable. MAYDAY is one of the best made shows IMHO
In the Aeroflot 253 Episode .... "ELDAR, WTF are you doing?"
number 1 and 2 takeaways from all of these episodes. The ground proximity warning system is always right and the stall warning is always more important than the overspeed warning.
"Pilots need to trust their instruments"
Other interview videos: "The pilots trusted their instruments and they died"
Haha, sad but true :P
There was a pilot who would use a cup of coffee sitting beside him to help him know which way the plane was flying. The liquid in the cup gave him clues when he had trouble. I don't remember that who that pilot was. But I salute him!
I was once working at a part of a stadium where I had to constantly look down four levels. I soon started to experience the same thing as the captain of Flash Airlines Flight 604: vertigo. I soon started acting strange and felt dizzy. Fortunately, my manager knew I normally didn’t act like that and knew something was wrong. He let me go home early and it was only when I was on the ground that I realized I had developed vertigo. Since then, I have asked to be placed elsewhere if I’m ever assigned to that place.
"Pilots are so dependent on their instruments!"
yes, i would imagine IFR flights would rely quite heavily on the I
In all these episodes I've watched, the #1 lesson is: always believe the low /terrain alarm.
lol
@@mpls_link true...
Very, very true...and the stick-shaker! When that goes off, BELIEVE IT too! And TCAS; I think that all of those systems are all isolated/independent systems from the main airline systems. I'm sure TCAS is, and the terrain system is (in most airliners). I'm pretty sure the stick-shaker is independent too, but I can't recall for sure...definitely listen to the terrain alarm, though! If it's wrong and you listen to it, you go up or to the side. If you're wrong and IT is right, you die. Probability says 'definitely take its advice'. :)
And TCAS!
low terrain alarm and stick shaker. those two alarms have got to be the most accurate and reliable warnings ever invented
Autopilot and automation systems are tools for the pilot to use but they're not a replacement.
Yup
Not exactly. When you are flying IFR (Instrument Flight Rating) and in bad weather you cannot see anything outside. Especially at night. The only thing you can rely on is dead reckoning or your instruments. For example landing in IMC conditions with visual approach and manual pilot controls is both deadly and impossible. I am a pilot and I know.
@@veerkar Obviously, you're experienced enough . . . to know the difference ! Those first 100 hours . . . even 500 hours, could be the most dangerous. Hopefully that 'learning curve' all rookie pilots experience will be enough to 'save the day,' when you are experiencing a cloud of doubt ! 😬 🇺🇸
With the first incident, no amount of training could've gotten then out of that situation. It was night, they can see nothing at all, and their instruments aren't working. There's nothing else. It's like you're driving down the road and you suddenly go blind and deaf. You have absolutely no idea what's going on and there's no way too find out.
Driving in a unbelievably thick fog I had to open the door to see the lines in the road. Would stop but was terrified some idiot behind would ram me.
@@bonnieenright Wow!!😱😱😱😱😱
The Aeroperu flight was actually equipped with FOUR altimeters. 3 of them were barometric altimeters and when they gave a reading of "0" when the plane was obviously off the ground it should have been a red flag to both pilots. The 4th altimeter is a Radio altimeter (radar altimeter) and was obviously working. The radar altimeter's reading would have been visible on the primary flight displays.
Unfortunately the controller saw the (incorrect) barometric altimeter reading on their radar screen - as the aircraft's transponder was transmitting data from the barometric altimeter - so when they asked ATC for their altitude and ATC *confirmed* the *incorrect* altitude.
EXACTLY! These guy's should have gotten this Aircraft right back on the ground, instead of their, "ho hum" , let's just talk about it and keep flying away into oblivion and darkness, away from all visual references! They didn't recognize the HUGE PROBLEM they really had until it was too late, but yeah, what the heck was wrong with the Rad Alt? NOTHING, except it's only good up to 2500 feet. Damn!
@@DJea-ni2yk basically we can just say it's the pilots and the ground crews fault
@@DJea-ni2ykthey're Hispanic it's no surprise
Pilots: ""We're hitting water''
Control tower: " climb.....if you need to, pull it up"
Uhmm.......ok control tower, let me think if I need to pull up and climb. Great advise. Thank you.
Pulling up isn’t very important in this situation 😂😂😂
“Trust your instruments! Unless the pitot tubes are blocked. But there’s no way to know that from inside. So don’t trust them completely. Maybe trust them a little bit? On second thought, let’s not go to Camelot. ‘Tis a silly place.”
It's only a model.
Strange tubes, outside an aircraft, distributing data is no basis for a system of control.
Lol pitot tubes are more like holes or inlets that are filled with sensors. There have been some stupid aeroplane designs but not that stupid.
the aeroperu really had like no way to get out of their situation...its the worst nightmare for a pilot. Literally theye were flying blind
I want more normal Mayday air disaster episodes, pretty please Wonder 🙏🙏🙏
I don't since that means new accidents
So many crashes could have been avoided if there were a couple construction levels mounted in the cockpit. The bubble never lies. Also battery altitude gps.
I love these types of vids
Why?
@@Mr.Chris.P.Bacon1 Because you get to know much more about planes, autopilot and other stuff?
@@Mr.Chris.P.Bacon1 I find these videos super interesting. It presents you with a lot of knowledge of planes and events
This is why I like the ground
Same
@@themedic9627 The ground can kill you faster than flying… MASSIVE POTHOLES… Mud slides… EarthQuakes.
😢😬
@@Mr.Chris.P.Bacon1 The air can to just as u take off the airplane can crash ☠️☠️
Got that right
Do you drive? Walk? Run? Ride a bike? What about a bus, train or subway? Hell, you can even die walking down a flight of stairs.
God bless NTSB and God bless you all thanks for uploading this investigation rip for those who lost there lives in tragic accident we love the efforts of NTSB
Hearing the computer going “Boop-Boop! Pull up.” Is chilling.
Wonderful.excellent cooperation by pilots and crew members.
I love that you guys post entire episodes, esp for ppl like me with no space on my phone for the app :)
I've watched enough Wonder to know, I cant put my full trust into anything. Did you forget to turn on the de-icing on the panel? I wont know unless the engine freezes up and plunges me into a frozen river.
I dont really think the engine would freeze up, Anti icing is for the wings if I am not wrong. Ice formation can mess the aerodynamics and make the plane lose lift. But engine flameouts can surely occur due to hail.....
Yeah...the world is imperfect in all it’s facets.
I know about Air Florida Flight 90. The pilots were not used to taking off in winter conditions and debris was ingested into the engines when the captain tried to use reverse thrust to clear snow.
This vid is crp
I was one of the passengers on China Airlines flight 006 and I was so lucky that I survived it was plunging through the sky
Oh really
watching these wonder give me both tension and excitement..
Idea: They can install a glass globe of water on top of the dashboard. Kind of like a snow globe. Coloured thick water would be better. Depending on how the water falls, you can know how the gravity is acting on your plane/the angle of the plane, even if it’s dark outside or the pilots think that their instruments are broken. It won’t need any wires or electricity, and at the least it can show turbulence. At most, it can show sharp turns and upside down airplane.
If it broke, though, the fluid would fry the instruments, wouldn't it?
My biggest concern is the maintenance crews that get ordered to cut costs.
the man who landed the plane after a huge plunge is the pilot I would like when i fly
That China airlines save was epic
Moral of the story: Don't rely on the computer systems but rely on the computer systems. He shouldn't trust his senses and just check the readings. He shouldn't trust the readings and used his senses. Errrr okay...
That perfect marriage between computer systems and crew is a complicated marriage. Especially when the two start divorcing and battle for custody of where the plane is heading and why.
Congratulations to the Russian pilot who gave the control of the airplane to his kid. Such great father.
I’m surprised the Russians didn’t hide that from the world.
The Russian pilot was yet another Championship Contender for a Darwin Award....
Next up: Kid get to control the SpaceX rocket.😂
@@quangminhnguyen2504 Let's be honest and say Russian democracy is a facade.
@@miriamsamaniego3335 Not only that, but the pilot was buried... as a hero of Russia.
By far one of the best videos you've produced!
@ 1:04 that is not a Sirrus SR20 lol. That is a Piper Seminole
Great video! Very interesting. I like how they associate the training to real, tragic life events
This was a great episode !!!
This happens when EVERYBODY involved doesn't do his job... Maintenance not removing the tape. Maintenance supervisor not checking it. Taxi driver not checking it. The pilot not checking it before the flight. Multiple people should check the plane visually before every flight according to standard procedures. Here everybody didn't do it correctly....
I want to watch the other episodes if Mayday but I can’t. It says “The uploader has not made this video available in your country” on all episodes of season 4 and 5. Wonder please make them available to everyone as I really enjoy watching them
The narrator is just awesome 👌👌👌👌
Before diving into Air Transat Flight 236, here's some honorable mentions I've thought about after the Flash Airlines crash, also about who's flying:
- American Airlines Flight 587
- Qantas Flight 72
- XL Airways Germany Flight 888
- Air France Flight 447
- BEA Flight 548
44:28 "Planes aren't designed to survive landing on water".
Pilots of US Airways flight 1549: I'm gonna have to stop you right there.
(Disclaimer, yes, I realize this was made before the Miracle on the Hudson happened)
I think larger planes might not be able to survive landing in water because they are longer than A320 so the whole tail might break off touching the water. The rear pressure bulk head on US 1549 was badly damaged during the landing which does suggest larger planes might have the whole tail section break off
Landing in the ocean is far worse than the Hudson.
That's correct, they aren't. When planes do hit water, the cabin is designed to stay pressurized for 4 hours or fewer, depending on whether or not the plane is closeby to rescue or if rescue is farther out.
When I worked at Boeing we joked that Boeing had made a deal with Todd Shipyards : "Boats don't fly, planes don't float."
@@ray_glaze ha ha ha ha ha ha ha . . . . 💀
I will never understand how pilots and controllers can completely forget how altimeters, airspeed indicators, and mode-2 radar work when they are getting bad data. I don't expect the average person to understand the systems in their car that drive the speedometer, but aviation professionals... Yeah. Beyond me.
I mean, sometimes there's a Lot going on or they weren't trained on it. Or they hadn't had any supplementary training for a while.
@@QueenOfCatsX3 if you aren’t prepared for all situations then you shouldn’t be working that job.
@Jesse Pinkman Yeah, I dont understand how the ATC guy (who wasnt in a cockpit with a billion warnings going off) didnt realize that the altitude his system is showing isnt independent but relies on the planes instruments.
However I also think better trained pilots might have realized that the warnings were caused by a problem with their pitot tubes and that they shouldve trusted the low terrain warning bcs that uses radio waves to determine height instead of pressure.
Loved it.
That Aero Peru flight is the kind of flight that warrants some sort of night vision/heads up display equipment like in the military.
Would that be practical tho?
@@alexanderboulton2123 i imagine you could just keep a set of goggles under the seat compartment like they do with the pilot's O2 masks; but having said that I dont think it would help you with horizon perception until you were right up on the ocean level, unless it was super choppy seas
OMG!
The TAPE episode was so sad!
TAPE killed those people!
And then there was those pilots who let their kids play with the controls!
What were they thinking?!
Currently watching this while in air , landing in around 30 minutes 😭
Be safe.
Masochist! LOL
You hope.
@@ancientmaverick13 😂😂 I made it safely
@@janeiciacollymore3559 Glad to hear it! I never doubted it for a moment. 😜
Excellent program
Best narrator ever!
I love these
I am watching this while waiting for my plane
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On the B-747 inverted flight maneuver, try this old Helicopter pilot's trick. Hang your dog tags on something in front of you and the tags will be "DOWN", or ground! This works because GRAVITY is always in effect! You got that Airman???
Show 6 or 8 plane disaster situations, and end the documentary by saying that flying is one of the safest ways to travel. Good selling point.
first time I'm early! 😂
I'll never understand why they don't have gps devices. One little Garmin handheld gps would've given them all the data they needed to maintain flight. Unbelievable.
What saved China Airlines was that they had so much airtime height = time. Thank God
Lol don't forget the excellent airmanship!
Actually, it's only because they saw the horizon of the Pacific.
Fun fact: a Garmin GPS can be a lifesaver and will work at cruising altitudes.
This reminds me of a scene in TF2 Air where they pull up Google Maps when they get lost, and it promptly crashes.
what's amazing to me is how many years they use a plane before retiring it. I'm just not comfortable getting on a 40 plus old plane. you know most of the parts are old maybe never changed at all.
Are you implying they never do maintenance on any and all vital parts?
@@johnchedsey1306 I'm just saying if you want to cross country would you rather be driving a 1980 or a 2021?
@@BigAlWillis Planes are maintained at a far greater level than a car. I understand your point and agree though, I'd rather fly a newer plane for comfort reasons. But older ones aren't any less safe, they just need to be taken care of more. I mean hell, some WWII fighters still fly regularly.
@@Tbonedoesfsx basically they're just as safe as the maintenance man that was working on them
@@Tbonedoesfsx like that one story I was watching where the maintenance men were cutting Corners and the engine fell off.
In the aero Peru case, if I'd get all of those warnings, my best alternative would've been to throttle up, and increase altitude, despite the conflicting warnings I was getting. It's safer to be at an higher altitude, than not being sure whether I'm too low or over speeding. I would put the throttles at a standpoint where I'd know I must be going at a certain safe speed and altitude, then I'd try correcting the issues one at a time as well as communicating with the tower.
What if they were to fast and throttled up?
They throttled back after an overspeed warning went off
It’s easier to say what to do when you don’t have 13 different alarms going off at the same time trying to get your attention.
@@turbolabamericathat’s what they all say
@@turbolabamerica I get your point, yes!! But since all of those 13 alarms going off on me as you imply..are giving me inaccurate readings which ultimately only confuses the pilot even further,,,the only logical and certain option to select in such a case for the purpose of buying yourself more time in order for you to go through each of those alarms and come up with a solution for each one, you need to be alive and fly the plane, which in this case is the top priority! Thereafter, you can tackle every other issue one at a time, or whichever has top priority again..
If you as a pilot cannot trust your flying instruments that indicate your speed and altitude for example, as an immediate reaction, it's critical to leave the thrust levers at a certain RPM ratio where it's indicating that the engines are spinning at a certain rotation speed which by itself it's indicative of power being produced etc. Similarly to a car. For example, let's assume that your car's speedometer isn't working, and you don't know how fast you're going! However...having your tachometer indicating 4 or 5000RPM, it's relative to a specific speed whereby if you knew the speed of your car at a certain RPM number, you wouldn't be as troubled by the malfunction as someone who doesn't know the relation of RPMs to Speed..
It's really crazy when you think about what went wrong and how the pilots tried to remedy the situation and then look for similarities; in most cases the pilots made similar small mistakes or larger ones due to difficulty thinking under pressure, gaps in training.
Then, way off in its own category, is the idiot that let two children sit in the pilots seat of a commercial airliner and put their hands on the controls.
You have to wonder what the Captain was thinking... Would you put your race car in into your child's hands at 16 yrs. old? If the answer is NO to one, then you have to say NO for both!
All of the above questions should never have to be asked by the one in charge. Yet, ALL of us are guilty of making poor decisions over something quite in our lives; so while I am shocked & saddened that it happened, I can't sit in judgement.
A small piece of tape brought down AeroPeru. I bet if the tape would have been hot pink, it would have been discovered.
Procedure actually says that the tape needs to be bright red. Unfortunately, they used gray tape which would’ve been impossible to see at night.
OMG! Awesome pilots!!
The first example was not an instance of pilots relying too much on automation. No airspeed or altitude over the ocean at night, automation made no difference at all.
Always trust your instruments …..unless there’s tape on them 😬
Love the timestamps
Anyway I look at it I have to say Captain Ho was damn good at keeping the plane out of the water! damn.
Agreed, you should never and I mean NEAVER, let anybody that is on experienced sit in the captain's seat cluding if there if it's their own child to set in the captain's seat, and hold the controls that is acceptable for a professional pilot to do that.
Take a special kind of person to be a pilot God blessed pilot
Wonder ...I can't stop watching it take me depressed state when people dying without reason bcaz of human error...
So sad too see them crash. And yeah, i like the ground too!
It's Halloween For Me and I am Doing It On The Ground And I Am Happy About That!
That Air Transat crew, especially the pilot, was the boss! 😎😎
There’s a movie on it.
@@Powerranger-le4up really? I’ll look for it thanks.
Maybe it's the way they portray him in the reenactment, but I thought they made him seem cavalier, downplaying or ignoring warnings from his instruments and FO that ultimately resulted in the emergency being more dire than it otherwise c/should have been. It's still a huge credit to him and crew to get that massive unpowered glider safely to the ground.
@@MadMako true, he was portrayed in a kind of negative way. The commenter above, Powerranger6342 said there’s a movie and I found it. It’s Piche, entre ciel et terre (available here on RUclips) which is about his life and his successful landing of the plane. Very interesting.
@@gizmo8361 I assume Mayday used the CVR to generate the cockpit dialogue, but the acting and tone make him seem more dismissive than simply skeptical and disbelieving.
They say you are safer traveling in an airplane than a car, but I still feel safer traveling at 60 mph at 2 feet than 500 mph at 30,000 feet, silly me. 😉
That must be the best, most kickass tape ever made, if it didn't peel off due to the winds, exposure to thinner air, and who knows what other factors. If someone will advise me as to what dev makes that tape, I'll buy a few reels.
pilot: We're hitting water!!
atc: pull up if you need to!
Lol
The CVR of Aeroperu 603 was used in the play, Charlie Victor Romeo.
Pilots rely too much on instruments...
20mins later
Pilots need to trust instruments.
🤔🙄🤯😳
well these accidents always shocks me
Interested to see what pilots do when their airplane finishes crashing. Maybe in part 2
Uh, well, usually they are dead. So what are you saying!?
@@sharcrum I'm saying the wording in the title is weird if not a little misleading. In aviation, "crashing" usually means the aircraft has impacted some solid object (another airplane or the ground), and upon coming to rest it is seriously damaged or destroyed. Once that "starts", it's pretty much inevitable that the plane "finishes" crashing in a matter of seconds or fractions of a second, cause there's really not a lot the flight crew can do to prevent the airplane from colliding with something it has already started colliding with. There are a number of accidents (that resulted in actual crashes), where the flight crew does survive.
captain Ho is a Hero. Lucky they only have a few hundred feet from hitting the pacific Ocean.
That last one. It's like pushing your manual shift bike/car as fast as you can and dropping the clutch.
I would like to know what happens to these employees who make catastrophic mistakes that cause the deaths of everyone on board? You would think there would be a checklist on paper that someone would go over prior to flight?
When are you going to make other episodes available?
'they two pilots have to rely on each other like never before...' 45: 05 Cue the Aviator glasses, lol.
Thats why we love the Ground
So much inforamtion
Idk who edits these thumbnails but they did that man dirty because he looks like he has a deformed head 💀
Watching this while inflight could shocked half of the passenger
Yet another crash caused by pitot tube design (and human error). It’s inconceivable that pitot tubes can’t be checked prior to flight from within the cockpit. To correct the flawed pitot tube design there could be a simple retrofit to check any obstructions in the airflow in the pitot tubes. It would just require blowing air outward to detect obstructions. And if the aircraft is already airborne pilots should be able to force hot pressurized air out through the pitot tubes to remove obstructions.
I’ve watched crash video after crash video where pitot tubes were the cause of the crash. I know in this situation the maintenance crew forgot to remove tape from the pitot tube but why shouldn’t pilots be able to check for obstructions PRIOR to flight? Pitot tube designs are ridiculous.
Same with Medicine...Gotta continue to learn and work as a Team!
Wrong. You never allow children to be at the controls of a plane. Is like these ppl didn't realiize what they were putting themselves into 🤦🏾♂
True but other things you need to consider is this: an alarm. After this incident, most planes have an alarm when the auto pilot mode goes manual. This plane had an alarm but the alarm didn't go off initially. If the pilots realised the auto pilot got turned off, things might have been different but I guess we'll never know. Also it was common to have visitors in the cockpit back then. The pilots weren't alarmed by the initial direction change as they suspected a holding pattern. (I think that's what it's called but I may be wrong). Also the daughter sat on the pilot's seat too and nothing went wrong. Anyways, it was still very unprofessional of the pilots on board to let a child sit on the seat. Hope it never happens again.
Well, you are proud of your beautiful kids, you are proud flying such a new and modern aircraft, you knew for sure nothing bad can happen because of automation. Its totally safe let your kids sit there for a moment. (at least you think so...)
Consider when and where this happened.
Of course, let the kids holding the controls was the main issue here but that was not the only one. I think there was also lack of training about the aircrafts safety mechanisms and something more.
Btw: it was shown in another video the aircraft could have been recovered by itself if they had done just nothing.
I would become a pilot when I grow up☺️
Can you be my second officer
@@delta4286 sure
If airplanes had escape pods I'd think about getting on a plane to see other parts of the world !
0:17 OMG AIR JAMAICA A340 I MISS THEM SO MUCH rip air Jamaica, me and the country misses you
There's an axiom in aviation called aviate, navigate, communicate. The Air China crew threw that entirely out the window, if they hadn't broke into VMC when they did, their 747 and everyone on it would be deader than a doornail.
Why did you crop out half the guy's head in the thumbnail
Yayyyyy I am early🥳🥳🥳
Congratulations at air transat all crew
Don't forget pilots also have to trust that maintenance did their damn job as well!
Sadly it's normally it's a symptom of the company. Why expect a guy being payed minimum wage working in the middle of the night to the best job all the time? Why was the maintenance crew given non standard tape that could stay on in-flight? The exact same crash happened months before but that info wasn't disseminated for the sake of "competition".
Idk shts complicated
I still dont understand why people getting scared from boarding an airplane and think land transportation is better.. the chance of you dying on a plane crash is much much smaller than your average commute like waking down the street, riding your motorcycle or driving your car, and even using trains or subways... airplane crash seems to be worse because the casualties are usually large, even if its happen like once every couple millions flight... while in a car crash, it just one or two people die so it is not a big deal...
I think it has more to do with knowing you're gonna die soon. Sure it's not a black and white situation. I could be in a car accident, bleeding out and knowing I'm gonna die any minute or I could be killed instantly. In airplanes, you usually have lots of time before you die. It may be a roller coaster of going up and down and spinning as you drop
I guess it's a mix of the media, often exaggerating aircraft emergency incidents, and human nature, which doesn't like it if they don't know what is happening in the flight deck