This is why Beckett is at least somewhat better. They actually show you a sub-grading system and the scores. With PSA you are left in the dark why your obvious 9 or 10 got a 7 or 6.
@@vectoralphaSec I don't disagree with you. But in my opinion no handled card should get above an 8. And even that should be quite rare, where the handling wear is overcome by unusually excellent printing outcomes.
I think what you have done is amazing. They need to be accountable. Those mistakes cannot happen but it’s understandable as mistakes do happen. It’s nice to see it corrected. Congratulations on the regrades and well deserved
Always tape a $50 bill to the package when sending to PSA... I saw them at card shows, literally spending 30 seconds to "grade" cards, then move to the next one.
Never? I’m ordinary and got graded (pristinne) 10’s on some of theost iconic one’s, including a 1st edition shadowless Zard. You conspiracy mxrxns never fail to amuse me
@@georgecruz4345 I have no idea to be honest... However, as much as people hate on PSA, without grading services, the value of cards would be only a tiny fraction of what they are today. It's always been a shady hobby to be honest.
@@YouGotTheFlueno fucking chance you have a first edition shadowless GRADED 10 Charizard. Like that’s basically non existent. If you did you wouldn’t be talking to me lmfao
@@lulz4lulz yeah I sent in my nieces Shiny V Charizard card to PSA, I inspect it all around and found 3 white spots on the back side. I was 100% sure it will come back as a 8 or 9 but I was surprised it came back as a 10.
Little late but I found out they were handing out 5's as like a default grade just to pump through a lot of cards to get caught up. I kept getting back 5's on obvious 10's so I started going through Ebay buying up a lot of 5's for pennies that looked mint, cracked and regraded them all and they all came back 9's and 10's. I found over 40 cards like that (including a PSA 5, 1st edition Neo Genesis Lugia) and made so much profit. That well has dried up these days but always check your 5's it seems to be the default grade they slap on there when they don't even look at the card.
@@gibiati8295makes sense to me, buy an average graded card for an average price. Either resell it for the same price or have it regraded for potentially more. Obviously you would only pay to regrade it if you could inspect it in-person yourself to know it should be a 9 or 10.
Similar happened to me. Card came back a 2 and resubmitted and it received an 8. I think they are just passing cards through and giving random 2's and 5's just to clear the backlog. They aren't grading the cards. They really don't care because you pay full price and pay again if you resubmit. This "non grading" policy is definitely happening. I saw this happen to another RUclipsr. His card was pristine,easily 9 or 10 and it came back a 2. The grading industry needs to be regulated.
Regulated is right. It’s that exact reason that I’ve never been able to get behind grading… Not to mention Humans are fallible, emotional decision makers… You send in a bunch of your fav teams cards, and happen to Kevin who hates the Cardinals, he woke up late, spilt his coffee all over himself on the way into the office…. Now Kevin gets your order…. Tell me he is going to be 100% unbiased…. Your shit just got knocked a point off dislike and another because he’s having a shit day… grading is a fucking scam.
If you can submit the same card twice and get two different grades, it's a scam. If there's no objective criteria that determine a card's grade, what's the point of getting it graded? It's literally just a number some guy made up. Without a report indicating why the grade was given it's 100% meaningless.
I think that in all honesty you should re-send the first 3 cards that you showed to Beckett or a different trading company that actually shows the why the card got the grade it did, just to see if it really is PSA or the cards.
Some people in psa aren't fully prepared to grade pokemon card. In the older Japanese car the yellow edge is always yellow mix with darker or lighter yellow so it looks like sun mark or stain to them if they don't have the knowledge
Yeah I seen the video where you got graded 5 on a shitload of your psa's and you were saying PSA was just pumping out cards and just put a 5 on them to get the inventory caught up with! Wow now graded 10! You were on point goes to show always go with your gut instincts! You just got a new subscriber my brother keep up the good 👍 work.
I sold a bunch of 1st edition holos raw to a shop owner a while back and he asked me, "why do you not have these graded?" Perfect example here of why you buy the card, you don't buy the grade!
That’s insane man! Congrats getting them back a 9 & 10 - what they were meant to be. I’ve recently sent cards to PSA for grading and lowkey regret it now 😂 Fingers crossed they don’t do me dirty hahaha
I used PSA for the first time last week. As soon as I got the email about the grades I checked it. It came back a VG 3. Similar scenario as you. I examined the card pretty throughly and didn't find much damage. There was slight wear on the top, and thats about it. No way that card deserves a 3!
Every time i come across a grading thread, literally no one talks about how easy it is to swap your card for a lesser grade. I mean like honestly, there is no freaking way to even identify your specific card from the rest (like a unique serial number, bar code, QR Code), nothing. That's why I've never sent off a card for that reason alone. I have a Manga Gear 5 Luffy that will sit there until the end of time, unless i can find a respected grading company that can grade in front of me..
Just came across this video. And I have to say that I totally agree with the title of this video. 2 weeks ago I sent my first card ever to get graded, and before sending it to PSA, I showed the card to a couple of fellow collectors, and we all agreed that my card was in perfect condition. So you can imagine the shock on my face when they send a notice that my card had been graded and they graded it at a PSA 6...I'm like WTF is going on at PSA
All PSA has to do is remove the human grading aspect. They need to upload official card reference material and use a 30mpx camera with AI to determine the grade. 6s and 7s will become much more common and turn around time will increase astronomically. In this day and age it really doesn’t make sense to have anything graded by a person who follows their bias of choice. Grading the card strictly off the reference material is a fool proof way of exactifying card quality.
Yeah it would solve a lot of issues with human error and bias. I really believe newer sets have a less chance of getting a 10. Because everyone is sending in fresh out the pack cards, and overwhelming them with 100s of the same card in near mint condition, and of course no matter how nice they are PSA isn't going to give out 100s of 10s and flood the market. So they have to be very picky about which ones they choose, and many 10s will get a 9 just so that doesn't happen. But if you send in a card that's 15 years old they will be more impressed that an old card has been kept in mint condition all those years, and because there aren't dozens to grade all at once they can give it a 10 without worrying about flooding the market. Of course this is purely speculation but it makes sense.
Honestly it would make PSA obsolete if there was software where you could just take a photo of your card and the software determines its condition. The only thing PSA would be good for at that point is just having name recognition... which isn't even a trustworthy name brand at this point.
But ai is not advanced enough yet. Some cards have certain surfaces which AI picks up as flaws even though it is design. At the end of the day a system using both ai and human interaction is needed. But no matter what errors will happen
@@geraldchurch2060 fair point. Even the tcg player card scanner is buggy it literally scanned the ground one time and said it was a 300 card. Also black mtg cards sometimes don't scan at all. Or sometimes mistakes which set it's from for another, or think it's a promo or 1st EDT when it's not.
1000% I will NEVER send any of my cards for grading until they replace humans and just use AI instead. I want unbiased grading with the highest accuracy possible. Plus AI would allow them to grade faster, thus speeding up the process and maybe making it cheaper. Honestly someone should start an AI card grading company as competition for the industry. That company would would be a massive success.
Dude I just had the same thing happen to my 151 mew two card...sent it back ....went from 5 to 9.5... I know the centering was off abit...but I knew it was capable of a 9 at least... good video man!
@@TheRealJohnHamp wasnt psa, I live in china they have different grade companies in Asia. breath lmao ...a comment I made 10 months ago 😂😂 this video made me re send my cards again...thats all. IT WAS 9.5 I got back on returns ...would like me to send you photos for evidence random person on the internet
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My first ever PSA submission came back the other day and im disappointed and feel cheated. Two psa4's, a 5 and a 7 that i feel are unjustified. PSA with new owners and AI grading sucks. Is the only way to re-grade via the 'crossover' service that costs £50?
same happened to my scream pika. it got a psa 5 and i sold it, the guy who bought it cracked it out and it came back psa 10 pretty unhappy with PSA thats why i go with CGC now
The fact of the matter is you payed twice to grade each card. Money in their pocket. You basically bought 4 $0.10 plastic cases for $200 or whatever you payed to get 2 cards graded twice each. Hook, line and sinker.
It’s a big scam. I know a comic dealer that can call his connection there and get any grade he wants on any book. He’s been one of their largest north’s American customers for 20 years. I’ve heard him talk about taking 1000 copies of a book, getting 200 9.8s made and keeping the 20 or 30 true 10’s ungraded for the future.
It has always been like this. It doesn't matter who you send the card to to get it graded. If you don't like the grade, carefully break and send it back. I'm convinced whenever they get a card they roll D20 unless there is obvious damage. It's the reason why I never buy graded cards if i can help it and if I do, I buy lower grades, break them out, and put them in my binder. If I have a graded 10 I'll sell it, buy back an ungraded version of the card and then use the leftover cash to get other cards.
There needs to be a standard certificate like GIA stones, with criteria that it needs to meet & written on the certificate where it didnt meet the standards for the individual card, with a database for ease of access & with the graders' initial or identification number.
When I worked at Little Caesars and they inspected our store, they NEVER gave us a 100% (even when everything was perfect). So one day we asked why they only gave us a 96% and they said "Well, I had to get you for something, so we just put down that there was scotch tape on the counter." The problem was that if a store actually got a perfect score, the person evaluating would be accused of not actually inspecting the stores. So maybe the reason why the grades are so low on these cards is because if they sent out a bunch of 8s and 9s, they would be accused of not actually inspecting the cards for flaws.
A grading company shouldn't be making mistakes like this, period. There's definitely more to it than this. Either they're trying to control the flow of the market or they just aren't doing their job. Whatever the reason is, their reputation should matter more than money. If this guy had to pay for them to be regraded, i would be pissed. Ironically, i stumbled across this video while looking for alternatives to grading. Because i wanted to make an informed decision on who i want to grade my cards. Clearly, psa isn't getting my vote. Thanks for shedding light on a corrupt company.
They leave grading up to humans and done by eye, because it only cost $15 per card and they need to actually spend very little time and money doing the grading to maximize profit. In the aerospace industry, and most manufacturing for that matter, they use complex inspection machines and computers to ensure accuracy. If they were serious they would move on to that level of scrutiny. but they both want to create certainty and uncertainty at the same time, by relying on humans who could be flaking out on their job every 5 cards because they are distracted or bored. Im sure they have a rule like "if you arent sure, grade down, they can always resend it and we cant have our name on bad cards getting high grades"
Coming back to this video after I did the same thing! Originally had the Pikachu come back a PSA 6 and I called BS. Had it regraded and came back a PSA 10 today
@@andrewblazensky5192 I broke the slab gently (nerve recking process) and just sent it in as a “new” grade. I’m sure any PSA 7 below of these cards are actually 10 but now probably gonna be POP controlled due to their value
This is horrible. I am sure this has happened to a lot of other people, they should absolutely be held accountable. PSA going down drain, will never sub with them after seeing this SGC is the only way from now on.
Thank you for reinforcing my belief that grading is a huge scam. I've been collecting since the beginning and am proud to have never wasted my money on these fake services.
Dealing with the same issue at PSA, grading cards from unopened packs 7s and 8s. I'm going to try to get them regraded like you and see if any come back 9s and 10s. They're costing collectors thousands.
Yeah... it's becoming a cash grab. But I will say, my parcels more recently seem to all be fairly well graded. So hopefully whatever happened with those few orders was just a blip.
They cost some collectors thousands and make thousands for others and themselves. Every time a card that should be a 10 ends up being a 9 or less the value of that card in a 10 is increased which drives people even more to wanna send cards in for a chance at a 10... very good for their laughable scam of a business but even that doesn't explain getting a 5 on a 9 or 10 card my god
I love how he's so excited that he goes to tell his girlfriend and she's just as excited. I know we're here to shit on PSA, but this actually makes the video wholesome.
I would never let PSA grade my cards bc of the following reasons: 1. The case is cheap plastic and they put in the card without sleeve 2. A 10 is the rule, lower grades the exception. It should be the opposite. Therefore a PSA 10 is likely not really a 10. I saw PSA 10 cards with printlines and whitening 3. No subgrades and intransparent grading process I use AOG for grading and I've sent in a lot of cards. Not a single one got a 10 until now and that's how it should be. Thank you for making that public! 👍
I mean sometimes we see big youtubers returns where they have like 65% 10s only and the lowest is like 8 and then the other times for the same guys its very hard to get 9s and theh get like 5 10s on huge amount of cards.. its so inconsistent
@juto8809 They know the youtubers get views and do that to make people believe they'll get 10's if they send in there cards. They are trying to keep the 10's population low and valuable.
This same thing is what I am going through with PSA and I have to file a claim, I was asked for prior photos and I don't have them. I will have to regrade and see what happens.
can we all just agree no matter how effed up it is but people can and WILL hate on you for no reason. who knows what the cause could be. the grader might not like the cards you sent in maybe you have the same name as the graders childhood bully. maybe the grader was having a bad day. yes its wrong but people do it and theres nothing you can do about it.
I wouldn't say it is a scam, but once shit like this starts happening people should stop trusting this particular grading company, as long as people keep using it they earn more money when they resubmit, Something that got a 5 should be able to get +/- 1 so 4-6 on 2nd grading, cards going from a 5(for most cards = basically worthless) to 9/10 is a problem. I mean only reason PSA is in business is because people trust them, if their rating means nothing why do people even keep using them?
problem # 1) when did pokemon become a "thing" ?? .... problem #2) when did pokemon become a "thing" ?? ... problem #3) when did pokemon become a "thing" ??
I know I'm late the the party on this one, but a while back I had my first PSA 5, and it looked perfect...I cracked it and resubmitted it, and it came back a 10. It's odd, because I've agreed with the grades on 99% of the cards I've submitted, so it's not like all of my cards have been graded incorrectly. I'm still sticking with PSA as they've been solid aside from this one blip, but it was still a bit of a shock for me.
That is why I am a firm believer that grading cards is not only a waste of time, but also money. I wont even buy a card if its graded because there is no way to guarantee if the value is accurate. Sometimes cards are graded higher than they are worth, sometimes lower. I was gifted a base set Squirtle for my bday one year that was a PSA 9.5 and there was a gash on the back and a bent corner. My friend was WAAAAY overcharged for it.
so, here’s what I think is happening: PSA grading adds an extra layer to the gambling aspect of collecting Pokémon cards. It’s not just about the condition of the card being graded; it’s about how difficult it is to achieve a PSA 10. Getting a PSA 10 is like playing a game within the game-it introduces an additional element of chance. The perceived randomness of the grading process creates an extra layer of rarity, which is why so many people end up being also attracted or even addicted to PSA grading. This is not a flaw, it is part of their business model.
Sadly it don’t matter. PSA can do as they please and the ignorant general public still swears by them . U can see so many 10s that are no way 10s . Then they grade trimmed cards and reject pack pulled for trimming. Card grading is the biggest sham ( but oh so genius) of all time
I've seen cards folded, ripped in half, water damage, scrunched up, corners missing, get 5s.. So they are 100% grading unfairly.. I'm wondering if they are different people rather than a process..
Holy moly dude, absolutely shocking! Without quality assurance systems, standards and inter-group testing, a company like PSA (and any other possible “grading” companies) can never be taken seriously. Without the before-mentioned systems, this is effectively the Wild West in terms of reliability. Does such a company ever even undergo an external audit?
The fact they dont include a reasoning for the ratings should be a red flag in and of itself
THIS 👆
Oh they do if you pay $100+ per grade
This is why Beckett is at least somewhat better. They actually show you a sub-grading system and the scores. With PSA you are left in the dark why your obvious 9 or 10 got a 7 or 6.
@@vectoralphaSec I don't disagree with you. But in my opinion no handled card should get above an 8. And even that should be quite rare, where the handling wear is overcome by unusually excellent printing outcomes.
Remember when I think it was Beckett would put 4 graded categories on back and overall grade on front so you knew what they were thinking
if 30% of the cards are regraded due to inaccuracies, it means they make 30% more money
Yea but u lose alot when less ppl come to u bc you're grading is inconsistent. Although PSA knows they're the #1 grader so they can get away with it.
They should have to regrade the card for free tbh. It's their mistake and their fault.
In the.future i feel like other gradimg companies will be valued hihher then psa...bc if this is true this is wildddd.
@@chadchandler5248 I've had the same opinion for quite some time.
@@deucedeuce333 They're quickly losing customers though as people are after the BGS Black Labels
If you can't trust the *5s* , you can't trust the *10s* either.
Doesn’t matter, the 10 is on there and he could now overcharge for the piece of cardboard with children’s drawings…
@@ozylocz4078 Pretty sure the "drawings" are made from professional adult artists
@ surprise surprise most things made for children were also made by adults 🤯 🤯
@@ozylocz4078 "Children's drawings" say more
@@ozylocz4078 You said they were children's drawings
The dramatic scene with his wife got me in tears lmaooo
Was it really that funny ? 😂😅
@@mpineda389 yeah
I mean, PSA 5 of the card is ~$600 and a PSA 9-10 of the card is ~$2700-3000
@@mpineda389cope
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This definitely makes me look at all my 8’s and 9’s that look absolutely perfect with even more skepticism
Definitely.
There is no consistency in grading and it really depends on the person who is grading your card and how they are feeling that day.
@@latinsizer just like crossing a border, or interaction with a cop.
@@latinsizer That is why i will never grade my cards. Unless they replace humans with AI, then i will consider it.
@@latinsizer ACE grading is better tho, they are consistent. Can even scan their qr code and see exactly what they looked at that didnt make it a 10
My wife pretends to care also. Lol.
That's cute tbh
😂😂😂
haha, mate this is the exactly the same as my wife. bless them.
Lmao 😂😂😂😂
hahah
I love how he dramatically talks with his wife like he found out his son did some pervert shit on the internet 😂
“Hey! Honey! You’re not going to FREAKING believe this! You know those girls he was telling us about that he met online…”
weird fucking comment tbh
Honey Tod keeps leaving crusty hard socks in my desk draw again 🤦♂️ you really should talk to him 😂🤣
Its actually great when your wife is just as enthusiastic as you on the other hand XD
I think what you have done is amazing. They need to be accountable. Those mistakes cannot happen but it’s understandable as mistakes do happen. It’s nice to see it corrected. Congratulations on the regrades and well deserved
Thank you my friend! Appreciate the comment.
@dantcg2594 Whats the difference in value from a 5 to a 9 and 10?
@@williamboiani1515 really depends. Look at that famous mantle card. Millions of dollar difference. Not sure with this card
@@williamboiani1515 thousands for this card
@@chinering23 🤦🏿♀️
It’s a form of extortion, they will never let ordinary people get high grades on cards without extorting them first!
Always tape a $50 bill to the package when sending to PSA... I saw them at card shows, literally spending 30 seconds to "grade" cards, then move to the next one.
Never? I’m ordinary and got graded (pristinne) 10’s on some of theost iconic one’s, including a 1st edition shadowless Zard. You conspiracy mxrxns never fail to amuse me
@@tenfourproductionsllc this works?
@@georgecruz4345 I have no idea to be honest... However, as much as people hate on PSA, without grading services, the value of cards would be only a tiny fraction of what they are today. It's always been a shady hobby to be honest.
@@YouGotTheFlueno fucking chance you have a first edition shadowless GRADED 10 Charizard. Like that’s basically non existent.
If you did you wouldn’t be talking to me lmfao
Pikachu screamed when he was graded 5 before, and Pikachu also screamed when he got 10 and 9 for the next grading
Psa should start indicating spots and reason why it’s that grade.
They literally only look at the card for about 30 seconds, they need to change a lot to be able to do that.
@@lulz4lulz yeah I sent in my nieces Shiny V Charizard card to PSA, I inspect it all around and found 3 white spots on the back side. I was 100% sure it will come back as a 8 or 9 but I was surprised it came back as a 10.
They will do it now
Huh
You mean like beckett dose xD it's fucking expensive
"Hey babe"...😂 I know that urge to tell her as well as I know that tone of her pretending to care. That's a solid partner you have right there.
Notice the same, she's a keeper
Although that tone sounds veery patronising. 😅
Little late but I found out they were handing out 5's as like a default grade just to pump through a lot of cards to get caught up. I kept getting back 5's on obvious 10's so I started going through Ebay buying up a lot of 5's for pennies that looked mint, cracked and regraded them all and they all came back 9's and 10's. I found over 40 cards like that (including a PSA 5, 1st edition Neo Genesis Lugia) and made so much profit. That well has dried up these days but always check your 5's it seems to be the default grade they slap on there when they don't even look at the card.
yeah that never happened
You gotta love a well played glitch in the matrix. 😊 Nice!!
lol what a made up story, like you were gonna trust random PSA 5s on ebay, delusional
@@gibiati8295makes sense to me, buy an average graded card for an average price. Either resell it for the same price or have it regraded for potentially more. Obviously you would only pay to regrade it if you could inspect it in-person yourself to know it should be a 9 or 10.
@@gibiati8295it isn't that far fetched 😂
Unbelievable. I will never use PSA anymore for my card grading.
Same I will using Beckett grading services
Yes you will because people don't care about a slab unless it's psa
@@theoneandonlyconnectionincorrect
or the black label one , that one looks so sexy 🔥
@@theoneandonlyconnection true xD
Similar happened to me. Card came back a 2 and resubmitted and it received an 8. I think they are just passing cards through and giving random 2's and 5's just to clear the backlog. They aren't grading the cards. They really don't care because you pay full price and pay again if you resubmit. This "non grading" policy is definitely happening. I saw this happen to another RUclipsr. His card was pristine,easily 9 or 10 and it came back a 2. The grading industry needs to be regulated.
Regulated is right. It’s that exact reason that I’ve never been able to get behind grading…
Not to mention Humans are fallible, emotional decision makers… You send in a bunch of your fav teams cards, and happen to Kevin who hates the Cardinals, he woke up late, spilt his coffee all over himself on the way into the office…. Now Kevin gets your order…. Tell me he is going to be 100% unbiased…. Your shit just got knocked a point off dislike and another because he’s having a shit day… grading is a fucking scam.
i thought they are even suppose to slab 3 or lower unless its a vintage sports card
screw Becketts
@@redfever_playzz Becketts not as bad as PSA though. ALL grading companies are scams.
Regulated? It needs to be done by computers. It would be easier, faster, cheaper, and 10,000x more accurate.
If you can submit the same card twice and get two different grades, it's a scam. If there's no objective criteria that determine a card's grade, what's the point of getting it graded? It's literally just a number some guy made up. Without a report indicating why the grade was given it's 100% meaningless.
I think that in all honesty you should re-send the first 3 cards that you showed to Beckett or a different trading company that actually shows the why the card got the grade it did, just to see if it really is PSA or the cards.
Some people in psa aren't fully prepared to grade pokemon card. In the older Japanese car the yellow edge is always yellow mix with darker or lighter yellow so it looks like sun mark or stain to them if they don't have the knowledge
they're fucking idiots i tell you
I’m blown away that this was 2 years ago and it’s not widely known yet
Yeah I seen the video where you got graded 5 on a shitload of your psa's and you were saying PSA was just pumping out cards and just put a 5 on them to get the inventory caught up with! Wow now graded 10! You were on point goes to show always go with your gut instincts! You just got a new subscriber my brother keep up the good 👍 work.
I sold a bunch of 1st edition holos raw to a shop owner a while back and he asked me, "why do you not have these graded?" Perfect example here of why you buy the card, you don't buy the grade!
buy the card by looking at it dont just look at the grade number, you should have graded those 1st ed holos
@@AustinWilsonGlass why?
I FELT that *exit room* "hey babe..." 😂
Shows you were right mate! Congrats on the regrade!
6:15 Just keep sending it back until you get it as 10.
Exactly.
Costs money tho, i dont think its a great idea
That’s what they want. More money for them.
That's exactly what PSA wants. That's how they make money.
Wife acting like that big bang theory scene where she pretends to listen and react to the ps4 and xbox differences lol
@David-If7ue poor Amy just wanted some salt...
@David-If7ue poor Amy just wanted some salt...
bro sadi to his wife "dude look " at 5:45 🤣🤣🤣
That's how you know you married your best friend.
@@ethansalas3575the fact she actually cares too
6:30 here too
Dude if you don't call your misses 'dude' then you're not comfortable enough. Dude ain't gender specific lol.
I also call my sister "bro" all the time
@@WhittaIIFor real. Dude/bro is said by everyone and to everyone
That’s insane man! Congrats getting them back a 9 & 10 - what they were meant to be.
I’ve recently sent cards to PSA for grading and lowkey regret it now 😂 Fingers crossed they don’t do me dirty hahaha
How did it turn out or are you still waiting?
@@FatherandSonHaveFun They turned out OK - I decided to upload an unpacking video of it a little while back!
No shot I got my first ever PSA ad when I clicked on this video lmao
"PSA, we set the standard" 😂
Card Grading Is A Scam....
Psa cut the corners of the first card they ever graded
I belive it can be. But honestly what do they base it on. What's it's parameters? Everybody is different.
@@jasonsimpkins9069 if it's centered and the condition obviously
@RELGRAX did you check the corners the edges the back the surface??
They 100% need to submit a report on each card explaining their reasoning for the grade.
You always need to put a 100 dollar bill with the cards so you get a 10😂
Thank PSA for not giving 8s the first round. You probably wouldn't have re-sumitted.
Your genuine happy meltdown was amazing 😂😂😂❤
I used PSA for the first time last week. As soon as I got the email about the grades I checked it. It came back a VG 3. Similar scenario as you. I examined the card pretty throughly and didn't find much damage. There was slight wear on the top, and thats about it. No way that card deserves a 3!
I am having a similar issue! They asked me for photos from before submission and it sucks because I don't have any.
Its about the print and other shit. You can see here that this Alakazam is not printed centered, the borders of a card are not even.
Every time i come across a grading thread, literally no one talks about how easy it is to swap your card for a lesser grade.
I mean like honestly, there is no freaking way to even identify your specific card from the rest (like a unique serial number, bar code, QR Code), nothing. That's why I've never sent off a card for that reason alone.
I have a Manga Gear 5 Luffy that will sit there until the end of time, unless i can find a respected grading company that can grade in front of me..
i thought it was known that you just have to keep trying until you get a grader who will give it a good score
Just came across this video. And I have to say that I totally agree with the title of this video. 2 weeks ago I sent my first card ever to get graded, and before sending it to PSA, I showed the card to a couple of fellow collectors, and we all agreed that my card was in perfect condition. So you can imagine the shock on my face when they send a notice that my card had been graded and they graded it at a PSA 6...I'm like WTF is going on at PSA
Whats the cert number? Let us take a look and see if the card is in the condition you say it is
Love the behind the scenes content lmao keeping it real
All PSA has to do is remove the human grading aspect. They need to upload official card reference material and use a 30mpx camera with AI to determine the grade. 6s and 7s will become much more common and turn around time will increase astronomically.
In this day and age it really doesn’t make sense to have anything graded by a person who follows their bias of choice. Grading the card strictly off the reference material is a fool proof way of exactifying card quality.
Yeah it would solve a lot of issues with human error and bias.
I really believe newer sets have a less chance of getting a 10. Because everyone is sending in fresh out the pack cards, and overwhelming them with 100s of the same card in near mint condition, and of course no matter how nice they are PSA isn't going to give out 100s of 10s and flood the market. So they have to be very picky about which ones they choose, and many 10s will get a 9 just so that doesn't happen.
But if you send in a card that's 15 years old they will be more impressed that an old card has been kept in mint condition all those years, and because there aren't dozens to grade all at once they can give it a 10 without worrying about flooding the market.
Of course this is purely speculation but it makes sense.
Honestly it would make PSA obsolete if there was software where you could just take a photo of your card and the software determines its condition. The only thing PSA would be good for at that point is just having name recognition... which isn't even a trustworthy name brand at this point.
But ai is not advanced enough yet. Some cards have certain surfaces which AI picks up as flaws even though it is design. At the end of the day a system using both ai and human interaction is needed. But no matter what errors will happen
@@geraldchurch2060 fair point. Even the tcg player card scanner is buggy it literally scanned the ground one time and said it was a 300 card. Also black mtg cards sometimes don't scan at all. Or sometimes mistakes which set it's from for another, or think it's a promo or 1st EDT when it's not.
1000% I will NEVER send any of my cards for grading until they replace humans and just use AI instead. I want unbiased grading with the highest accuracy possible. Plus AI would allow them to grade faster, thus speeding up the process and maybe making it cheaper. Honestly someone should start an AI card grading company as competition for the industry. That company would would be a massive success.
Dude makes a whole point of them not grading correctly but still is hyped about the 10s
Dude I just had the same thing happen to my 151 mew two card...sent it back ....went from 5 to 9.5... I know the centering was off abit...but I knew it was capable of a 9 at least... good video man!
Bulls*it - You cannot get a 9.5 as a grade from PSA.
@@TheRealJohnHamp wasnt psa, I live in china they have different grade companies in Asia. breath lmao ...a comment I made 10 months ago 😂😂 this video made me re send my cards again...thats all. IT WAS 9.5 I got back on returns ...would like me to send you photos for evidence random person on the internet
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My first ever PSA submission came back the other day and im disappointed and feel cheated. Two psa4's, a 5 and a 7 that i feel are unjustified. PSA with new owners and AI grading sucks.
Is the only way to re-grade via the 'crossover' service that costs £50?
You should change to beckett or cgc!
Thanks for warning us!
Worth my subscription if you ask me!
same happened to my scream pika. it got a psa 5 and i sold it, the guy who bought it cracked it out and it came back psa 10
pretty unhappy with PSA
thats why i go with CGC now
That's fking wild bro...
The wife deserves an Oscar! 10/10 lover her reaction is just exquisite. 😂😂
The fact of the matter is you payed twice to grade each card. Money in their pocket. You basically bought 4 $0.10 plastic cases for $200 or whatever you payed to get 2 cards graded twice each. Hook, line and sinker.
Fool: Oh hell no, my cards are a god damn 10. I'm sending them back.
Psa: thanks for paying again. Ok you can have a 10.
I never re-grade
The fake outrage like you hadn't already looked at the cards was hilarious. Still crazy they came back higher the second time.
It’s a big scam. I know a comic dealer that can call his connection there and get any grade he wants on any book. He’s been one of their largest north’s American customers for 20 years. I’ve heard him talk about taking 1000 copies of a book, getting 200 9.8s made and keeping the 20 or 30 true 10’s ungraded for the future.
It has always been like this. It doesn't matter who you send the card to to get it graded. If you don't like the grade, carefully break and send it back. I'm convinced whenever they get a card they roll D20 unless there is obvious damage. It's the reason why I never buy graded cards if i can help it and if I do, I buy lower grades, break them out, and put them in my binder. If I have a graded 10 I'll sell it, buy back an ungraded version of the card and then use the leftover cash to get other cards.
There needs to be a standard certificate like GIA stones, with criteria that it needs to meet & written on the certificate where it didnt meet the standards for the individual card, with a database for ease of access & with the graders' initial or identification number.
When I worked at Little Caesars and they inspected our store, they NEVER gave us a 100% (even when everything was perfect). So one day we asked why they only gave us a 96% and they said "Well, I had to get you for something, so we just put down that there was scotch tape on the counter." The problem was that if a store actually got a perfect score, the person evaluating would be accused of not actually inspecting the stores. So maybe the reason why the grades are so low on these cards is because if they sent out a bunch of 8s and 9s, they would be accused of not actually inspecting the cards for flaws.
A grading company shouldn't be making mistakes like this, period. There's definitely more to it than this. Either they're trying to control the flow of the market or they just aren't doing their job. Whatever the reason is, their reputation should matter more than money. If this guy had to pay for them to be regraded, i would be pissed.
Ironically, i stumbled across this video while looking for alternatives to grading. Because i wanted to make an informed decision on who i want to grade my cards.
Clearly, psa isn't getting my vote. Thanks for shedding light on a corrupt company.
They leave grading up to humans and done by eye, because it only cost $15 per card and they need to actually spend very little time and money doing the grading to maximize profit. In the aerospace industry, and most manufacturing for that matter, they use complex inspection machines and computers to ensure accuracy. If they were serious they would move on to that level of scrutiny. but they both want to create certainty and uncertainty at the same time, by relying on humans who could be flaking out on their job every 5 cards because they are distracted or bored. Im sure they have a rule like "if you arent sure, grade down, they can always resend it and we cant have our name on bad cards getting high grades"
Coming back to this video after I did the same thing! Originally had the Pikachu come back a PSA 6 and I called BS. Had it regraded and came back a PSA 10 today
Did you send a note or anything to PSA? Or just sent it in for regrading?
@@andrewblazensky5192 I broke the slab gently (nerve recking process) and just sent it in as a “new” grade. I’m sure any PSA 7 below of these cards are actually 10 but now probably gonna be POP controlled due to their value
1:45 That card you just showed had an offset in the printing. Which makes it grade lower, AFAIK.
This is horrible. I am sure this has happened to a lot of other people, they should absolutely be held accountable. PSA going down drain, will never sub with them after seeing this SGC is the only way from now on.
This aged very poorly.
PSA is just an extra layer of gambling to abuse the gambling addicts buying cards.
"Is it gonna be a 9? a 10? I can't wait to get this graded"
If that pikachu 9 was centered a bit better left/right I am sure ya woulda got two 10s. Grats.
How much these cards worth?
Thank you for reinforcing my belief that grading is a huge scam.
I've been collecting since the beginning and am proud to have never wasted my money on these fake services.
Dealing with the same issue at PSA, grading cards from unopened packs 7s and 8s. I'm going to try to get them regraded like you and see if any come back 9s and 10s. They're costing collectors thousands.
Yeah... it's becoming a cash grab. But I will say, my parcels more recently seem to all be fairly well graded. So hopefully whatever happened with those few orders was just a blip.
They cost some collectors thousands and make thousands for others and themselves. Every time a card that should be a 10 ends up being a 9 or less the value of that card in a 10 is increased which drives people even more to wanna send cards in for a chance at a 10... very good for their laughable scam of a business but even that doesn't explain getting a 5 on a 9 or 10 card my god
the fact he went to his wife and she cares is awesome
I've seen psa grade 10 on cards that was horrendous borders on the back. Like wut.
I love how he's so excited that he goes to tell his girlfriend and she's just as excited.
I know we're here to shit on PSA, but this actually makes the video wholesome.
I would never let PSA grade my cards bc of the following reasons:
1. The case is cheap plastic and they put in the card without sleeve
2. A 10 is the rule, lower grades the exception. It should be the opposite. Therefore a PSA 10 is likely not really a 10. I saw PSA 10 cards with printlines and whitening
3. No subgrades and intransparent grading process
I use AOG for grading and I've sent in a lot of cards. Not a single one got a 10 until now and that's how it should be.
Thank you for making that public! 👍
I mean sometimes we see big youtubers returns where they have like 65% 10s only and the lowest is like 8 and then the other times for the same guys its very hard to get 9s and theh get like 5 10s on huge amount of cards.. its so inconsistent
PSA is just a scam. They laugh their ass off making money off of dumb people
@juto8809 They know the youtubers get views and do that to make people believe they'll get 10's if they send in there cards. They are trying to keep the 10's population low and valuable.
Honestly homie. This short video educated me so much on how I will proceed with my collections moving forward
Edit: your wife is so cool
This same thing is what I am going through with PSA and I have to file a claim, I was asked for prior photos and I don't have them. I will have to regrade and see what happens.
imagine taking those 6s and increasing the PSA by using a humidifier and a microfiber cloth LOL
can we all just agree no matter how effed up it is but people can and WILL hate on you for no reason. who knows what the cause could be. the grader might not like the cards you sent in maybe you have the same name as the graders childhood bully. maybe the grader was having a bad day. yes its wrong but people do it and theres nothing you can do about it.
Your reaction is gold XD, love the video
Pokétubers grading his cards with PSA: at least 9-10 range
Normal people granding his cards: This couldn't be more then a 6..
I love how his first instinct was to go tell his wife
2 years later, nothing has changed 😂.
This video is going to break the internet
the amount of anger mixed with disbelief and frustration has me rolling
The way he called his partner dude was so romantic 🥰😂
Maybe it was a new employee who misunderstood the assignment and thought 5 was the highest grade you could get lol
I would send those Gengars and the Alakazam to Beckett and see what you get. PSA just proved everything with those two Pikachu cards..
there honestly should be a class action lawsuit involved against PSA for the amount of times this has happened with regrading cards.
OMFG!!!!! They NEED to train those people at PSA! Also that’s probably the difference between graded by eye and by a bot 🤖
I have a PSA 4 that looks nearly flawless… I’ve definitely thought of cracking it and submitting for a better grade… Wild!
When 1 company is in control, they control the market. Does BlackRock own PSA too??? 😂
My heart would be pounding if I waited 7-8months for a card appraisal that’s worth so much
Card grading is a scam, it's good that more and more people are realizing this
I wouldn't say it is a scam, but once shit like this starts happening people should stop trusting this particular grading company, as long as people keep using it they earn more money when they resubmit, Something that got a 5 should be able to get +/- 1 so 4-6 on 2nd grading, cards going from a 5(for most cards = basically worthless) to 9/10 is a problem. I mean only reason PSA is in business is because people trust them, if their rating means nothing why do people even keep using them?
problem # 1) when did pokemon become a "thing" ?? .... problem #2) when did pokemon become a "thing" ?? ... problem #3) when did pokemon become a "thing" ??
I feel automated grading is definitely gonna be the best way to grade going forward, takes away the human bias and error.
They really have automated grading?
@@DT_123 yes there is a grading company called “AGS” (Automated Grading Services)
I know I'm late the the party on this one, but a while back I had my first PSA 5, and it looked perfect...I cracked it and resubmitted it, and it came back a 10. It's odd, because I've agreed with the grades on 99% of the cards I've submitted, so it's not like all of my cards have been graded incorrectly. I'm still sticking with PSA as they've been solid aside from this one blip, but it was still a bit of a shock for me.
DONT USE PSA
That is why I am a firm believer that grading cards is not only a waste of time, but also money. I wont even buy a card if its graded because there is no way to guarantee if the value is accurate. Sometimes cards are graded higher than they are worth, sometimes lower. I was gifted a base set Squirtle for my bday one year that was a PSA 9.5 and there was a gash on the back and a bent corner. My friend was WAAAAY overcharged for it.
Also I recommend HGA grading they always do a great job for me, I think they'll be the future in card grading .
so, here’s what I think is happening:
PSA grading adds an extra layer to the gambling aspect of collecting Pokémon cards. It’s not just about the condition of the card being graded; it’s about how difficult it is to achieve a PSA 10.
Getting a PSA 10 is like playing a game within the game-it introduces an additional element of chance. The perceived randomness of the grading process creates an extra layer of rarity, which is why so many people end up being also attracted or even addicted to PSA grading.
This is not a flaw, it is part of their business model.
Sadly it don’t matter. PSA can do as they please and the ignorant general public still swears by them . U can see so many 10s that are no way 10s . Then they grade trimmed cards and reject pack pulled for trimming. Card grading is the biggest sham ( but oh so genius) of all time
People act like psa is some one man show with a man who works with Rolex like precision, when it's really just 100 teenagers making 16 bucks an hour
I've seen cards folded, ripped in half, water damage, scrunched up, corners missing, get 5s.. So they are 100% grading unfairly.. I'm wondering if they are different people rather than a process..
I've seen a folded charizard on the middle get an 8, so yeah you are completely right!
To be fair, the centering on that gengar is abysmal. That's a true and honest 6.
Holy moly dude, absolutely shocking!
Without quality assurance systems, standards and inter-group testing, a company like PSA (and any other possible “grading” companies) can never be taken seriously.
Without the before-mentioned systems, this is effectively the Wild West in terms of reliability. Does such a company ever even undergo an external audit?
I know people have Hype with PSA but this Is why I grade with Beckett, especially cool when you get that black label pristine 10
I wouldn’t trust a company that profits from low grades
this video is really funny, loved the reaction
Its like doctor verdict you but never give you the diagnosis
His wife was like “no way! Sell them and buy me a new car, pokemon is dumb”