@@happygp698 Don't threaten me with your dystopian nightmares.Just open youe eyes and see what is really going on in China right now. You want that? We'll buy you a ticket. Average UK IQ will go up 2 points
If the rest of the world mandates EVs then perhaps, nobody makes money making EVs, so it's all about who can throw the most public money at them, and that's going to be the CCP- already half a trillion $ by some estimates. But where mandates are struck down, China can't compete very well building normal cars, IC technology is a lot more sophisticated than wiring up some batteries to a motor.
The BYD buses I drive in London are from 2018. They drive beautifully, especially acceleration and braking. The newer double decker had slow acceleration for some reason.
@@Frank-jn3zg Exactly, London Taxi Corporation was turned into London Electric Vehicle Company when Geely bought it up. It's been going strong ever since.
@@EdwinaTS I have an apartment in Kensington area even though I am an American I would have to politely disagree the roads are unbelievably small in width and I have been run over twice by these buses once in Holborn and another time in Mayfair.
@@FLORIDIANMILLIONAIREAs these BYD buses haven't hit the roads in London yet, what you experience would be conventional buses. You can write to the council and the bus service provider about it. London streets are historically far narrower & windy than big American lanes, so there is a need for personal adaptation too. I hope you will survive more experiences of being run over by buses, one can't be over optimistic about these things. 😅
We have the trolley system for trucks on Autobahns in an experimental stage in Germany. Isn't this idea brilliant for decarbonizing the transport sector? Unfortunately no one seems to be interested (guess why).
yeah but the whole point of a bus is it carries loads of people, so even if it is diesel, it is much better than if all passengers had individual diesel cars. it is already a green transport in its current form. keeping a whole double decker heated in a UK winter will cane the battery
I call Bull crap! The waste heat from the battery while this bud is operating will be more than enough to keep the interior of this bus toasty warm on even the coldest winter days in London’s rather mild winters. I’m from Canada and we have several electric buses in our fleet here in my city and they have no issue with heating even in -30°C winter days.
What a bunch of absurd nonsense. EVs work perfectly fine in winter, heating does not eat up that much range. Especially when it's has a freaking 532 kWh battery. You have no clue how gigantic amount of energy that is.
In Vancouver these diesel buses are the worst maintained old tech black smoke belching embarrassments known to man. Electric is perfect and for heating, two words...heat pump!
Well apart from the age, pollution, open platform on the back leading to accidents and fare evasion, and a complete lack of access for people with disabilities. Oh and lack of WiFi, charge points, Aircon, and decent customer announcements. Apart from those
OMG, here is another invasion of 'overcapacity'!! UK passengers should be very careful when using their device on these Chinese built EV buses, Xi is watching your every move, LOL.
BYD makes junk. These Buses stay broke down more than they can stay on the road. They can't get spare parts for these buses either and cities that have bought BYD buses won't buy anymore...
Better don't. Maintenance is dismal in the UK because of lack of skilled workers. Diesel buses have been catching fire frequently. Improper maintenance of these buses may lead to fires.
Statistics prove that petrol vehicles catch fire far more - ten times more - than EVs. These fires never get into the papers because they are so common.
@@alexmckenna1171 totally wrong : after 10 years if standard flex fuel lines are not replaced or are damaged by rodents, a gasoline car may catch on fire while lacking this proper maintenance and this occurs therefore only on old cars . On many quality modern cars, the flex fuel lines are armoured and good for life time of 15-25 years and 300.000 to 500.000 kms but can still be changed or pressure tested each 10 years for safety.. While it takes air with fuel to cause a fire on a thermal vehicle, an EV lithium charged battery stores airless ALL the energy for 400 kms inside…and in case of a short circuit within one element or between two elements due to a shock or accident, fires are frequent and any damaged EV should be first discharge or transported extremely slowly..a signed responsibility disclaimer discharge is requested from the owner by most towing companies or garages before touching a damaged EV or PHEV, but also, it can take as short as 3 years of service for the lithium battery impedance to increase sufficiently for an excessive charging current to cause overheating. Most lithium fire recent recalls such as Samsung note 7, BYD E6 taxis, B767, TMS Plaid, etc were due to faulty BMS mismanaging batteries ageing and capacity loss..today, about 6 Ev burn per day in China and they are NOT old cars..and lithium fires, like sodium or magnesium fires cannot be stopped with water foam CO2 Halon gaz or powder and typically result is a full destruction while racing cars accidental fires are stopped fast and easy. This is simply NOT comparable…Now, most car “spontaneous “ fire pictured in local newspapers (while type of vehicle is not specified on purpose not to scare owners,) are EV and exceptionally hybrids and old thermal cars . Your 10 times ratio is just an urban legend for naive geeks..One issue is that insurance premiums do no reflect this liability for any prevention to take place, in case the recent ferry fires and destruction would be charge to the vehicle type which initiated the fire instead of being spreaded on all the goods transport and ship insurances going up… then the corresponding EV type liability insurance would be excessive or not available…and this EV type would become basically unsellable….and the current market collapse is also basically deciding it…and came to the same conclusion.
Evs don't explode - that's what petrol vehicles do. Statistics prove that petrol vehicles catch fire far more - ten times more - than EVs. These fires never get into the papers because they are so common.
Evs don't explode - that's what petrol vehicles do. Statistics prove that petrol vehicles catch fire far more - ten times more - than EVs. These fires never get into the papers because they are so common.
This is one with an LFP battery which is very unlikely to self-combust. So no more toxic fireworks as these (hopefully) replace the NMC battery powered buses.
@@alexmckenna1171Diesel fires are generally just too easy to put out to make the news. NMC battery powered EV's tend to set themselves on fire when they are too hot, overcharged, hit anything or just one of the thousands of cells was not quite perfect out of the factory. NMC is just too unstable. The solar industry has basically abandoned it and switches to the much safer LFP battery chemistry without a highly toxic content like Cobalt.
I wish the affordable cars are for sale in UK soon.
Not those chinese death trap electric cars I hope ?
"China will be the dominant global player in the transportation sectors of the future." ~Bloomberg Technology
Then we really are screwed
Not merely in the transportation sector, but virtually all relevant areas, and through peaceful means. Just wait and see.
@@happygp698 Don't threaten me with your dystopian nightmares.Just open youe eyes and see what is really going on in China right now. You want that? We'll buy you a ticket. Average UK IQ will go up 2 points
If the rest of the world mandates EVs then perhaps, nobody makes money making EVs, so it's all about who can throw the most public money at them, and that's going to be the CCP- already half a trillion $ by some estimates. But where mandates are struck down, China can't compete very well building normal cars, IC technology is a lot more sophisticated than wiring up some batteries to a motor.
@@alanpartington2540😂more SB
Now to win the lottery, buy one of these and convert it to a mobile home.
Now we wait for the UK regime to sanction these buses, at the request of the US regime of course.
Don't wait, America buys BYD buses too
@@Ginyiweibut aren’t they made in the USA?
@@Fabulousprofound168 i think the chassis are still made in china
So no different to the tariffs and restrictions china places on foreign cars ?
😂😂😂 Looks everything comes with side effects. Just wait until cowboys approve it for you , after them getting it first and breaking their own rules
the unit for battery capacity is kW hour, not kW per hour.
It's neither of the two. It's kilowatt hour.
@@adon8672 That's what i said
@@Kevin-kd6hf No you said per.
@@foppo101 He said "not kW per hour".
@@catherinegrimes2308I guess we won’t hear a “whoops I’m sorry my mistake” then
Need these in Sydney
Where I'm from in the Netherlands, 100% electric busses have existed for about 5 years already and they're the only busses around.
The BYD buses I drive in London are from 2018. They drive beautifully, especially acceleration and braking. The newer double decker had slow acceleration for some reason.
I’ve never heard so many overused marketing phrases strung together in one product presentation 😆 AI composed maybe? Still it looks like a good bus.
How much are the tariffs?
Very interesting since their main competition, ADL, uses BYD motors & batteries for their own UK electric buses.
Actually ADL are making ones with there own battery, motor and chassis I think from this year.
@@Peter-mj6lz Feels like a mistake. Looking at the 400EV, in terms of pure spec, this simply feels like it's in a different class.
I like BYD bus
Great decision to have these in UK.
Nah, i think the adl new gen e400ev is better
wish some thinktank genius can workout how much carbon pollution is saved if ALL the london red buses are zero emission
They will use for TFL on routes 129, 321 and SL4
I will get 10 of those right now
Next: BYD electric London taxis with sliding doors and heated seats during cold weather. Passengers can pay extra for massage from the seats, hehe.
Electric london taxis manufactured by another China company called Geely sinCe 2017. It is too late for BYD.
@@Frank-jn3zg Exactly, London Taxi Corporation was turned into London Electric Vehicle Company when Geely bought it up. It's been going strong ever since.
Now the British regime will rely on Chinese double decker heritage bus. Give all power to the Chinese
Awesome!
Why don't you put solar panels on the roof to power all the internal lighting etc. Or a panoramic sunroof to let in more natural light.
solar panel not as efficient only gives you little power, thats why u dont need that
Added cost and complexity. Panoramic sunroof also makes climate control harder
I'm sure the overcast weather in that part of the world will help.
People spend less than 15 mins on a bus. No need for any extras
@@Matthew_M11True, it's hard to keep a bus cool anyway as humans emit a lot of heat
I like the New BYD Bus 😊
Now world going to be Chinese colony because they knew beauty can be sold.
The Chinese are taking the Brits for a ride 😂
Are you mocking the British for being stupid?
omg..... chinese gonna collect all london traffic data and count how many homeless on the street
😂😂😂😂😂
Nice Does it have rear wheel steering ? The uk doubledeckers make dangerous swerves very close to the curb and a rear wheel steering would help
Some routes can benefit, but majority of turnings do not need rear wheel steering. It comes down to economics.
@@EdwinaTS I have an apartment in Kensington area even though I am an American I would have to politely disagree the roads are unbelievably small in width and I have been run over twice by these buses once in Holborn and another time in Mayfair.
@@FLORIDIANMILLIONAIREAs these BYD buses haven't hit the roads in London yet, what you experience would be conventional buses. You can write to the council and the bus service provider about it. London streets are historically far narrower & windy than big American lanes, so there is a need for personal adaptation too. I hope you will survive more experiences of being run over by buses, one can't be over optimistic about these things. 😅
Bring a 3 axle BD12 variant for markets like Singapore and Hong Kong!
We need to bring back trolley bus infrastructure so there is less need for heavy batteries.
Totally agree. The trolleybus is long overdue a return to UK. Best road means of passenger carrying we ever had
We have the trolley system for trucks on Autobahns in an experimental stage in Germany. Isn't this idea brilliant for decarbonizing the transport sector? Unfortunately no one seems to be interested (guess why).
Way way higher acquisition cost.
@@v6200manDon't trolley buses have an overhead pole to get electricity from overhead cables? I can't see that ever returning.
Does it have Solar Panels on the roof??
New level of safety 💀
There better be leg room!
Is it built in Britain, this particular one, even though I know BYD is Chinese?
应该是的
Assembled in UK
why can't the UK upgrade the grid with SMRs powering electric trolley buses/trams with far smaller battery packs?
UK has no money 😒
@@UKkennyUK cannot accept the reality that they are in fact, inadequate.
That wouldnt work for non city areas.
The back seats are so cramped when the buses are full and you have no choice twopeople can’t down
yeah but the whole point of a bus is it carries loads of people, so even if it is diesel, it is much better than if all passengers had individual diesel cars. it is already a green transport in its current form. keeping a whole double decker heated in a UK winter will cane the battery
We have the BYD double-decker buses here in London, they have been fine in Winter
Heated seats
I call Bull crap! The waste heat from the battery while this bud is operating will be more than enough to keep the interior of this bus toasty warm on even the coldest winter days in London’s rather mild winters. I’m from Canada and we have several electric buses in our fleet here in my city and they have no issue with heating even in -30°C winter days.
What a bunch of absurd nonsense. EVs work perfectly fine in winter, heating does not eat up that much range. Especially when it's has a freaking 532 kWh battery. You have no clue how gigantic amount of energy that is.
In Vancouver these diesel buses are the worst maintained old tech black smoke belching embarrassments known to man. Electric is perfect and for heating, two words...heat pump!
It's mainly for HK
Proper air conditioning ? or roasting all summer like the rest of London busses.
heat pump
Can't get the AI voice to read "kilowatthour" correctly?
Can never beat the Routemaster
Well apart from the age, pollution, open platform on the back leading to accidents and fare evasion, and a complete lack of access for people with disabilities.
Oh and lack of WiFi, charge points, Aircon, and decent customer announcements.
Apart from those
The Boris incubatormaster?😂
@@hughw2377 a bus designed by an edgy architect not a bus engineer. What could possibly have gone wrong there???
You may then like the channel @PeteAndHisBus it's a guy that restores them and has them working as bar's at events
@@patrickjr11that is so true however knowing electric buses it could explode
Leyland Leyland wherefore art thou?
Ashok Leyland lorry buses plying all over the Indian sub continent. Samon packed and hot.😂
Blade battery Bought Your Death bus, can't wait. 😂
Awesome!
I have already seen these in Shang Hai
Why are we getting Chinese buses?
Because they are excellent I think. These new version buses have moved the game on from good enough to more then good enough.
Because you hate them so much.
I understand you want to pay higher buss fares.
Because they are the best
@@patrickjr11But the new gen e400ev gives a similar range and better build quality tho
Buy these for route 41, arriva.
Who know one day Thames River will be clear again.. Now its black color water..
Colour not Color
The Thames is pretty clean now, in the 2012 Olympics they had swimming events in it. They are also built extra storage capacity for rain
@@Stand663 Colour is UK while US is color. Microsoft is US and auto correct to Color.
Can we take an electric vehicle video seriously if kWh is pronounced as "kilowatts per hour"???????????
According to the US surely these Chinese buses are a security risk?
London buses are damaged by these rubb1sh Asian vehicles
China EVs industry is incredibly impressive 👍❤️🇨🇳
OMG, here is another invasion of 'overcapacity'!!
UK passengers should be very careful when using their device on these Chinese built EV buses, Xi is watching your every move, LOL.
So I shouldn't use my Huawei mobile phone on it?
The can heaters for the drivers do not work well , most drivers refuse to drive them.
So sort that out if u want the companies not to buy Volvo
China really gives the world dreamed EVs. In a crossing junction in China, it’s so quiet as most of the cars there are electric.
Yet China still has the highest emission globally, through producing batteries, mining and coal power plants.
“First electric double decker bus”
i WONDER how many passengers going to be COOKED before they are banned .
BYD, the Chinese bus that some countries had burn to the ground. Will these end up the same way?
CHINE MAKE A GOOD JOBS, OCIDENTE ONLY PROPAGANDA AND DESFILE WWWLGBT 😂😂😂
UK is beautiful ,,,,, INDIAN PM with Chinese Technology and now British national dish is PAKISTANi CHICKEN TIKKA MASALA......
BYD makes junk. These Buses stay broke down more than they can stay on the road. They can't get spare parts for these buses either and cities that have bought BYD buses won't buy anymore...
The electric BYD buses operated by Transport for London keep catching fire, they're junk.
Shear lies!
How long till the UK sanctions or bans these buses at the orders of America (the UK's boss).
DO NOT SIT ON THESE BUS CCP IS WATCHING
WHEN THE DRIVER FALL ASLEEP THIS BUS COULD RUN OFF THE CLIFF !!! THIS IS A DEATH BOX
PLEASE READ CAREFULLY!!!
Better don't. Maintenance is dismal in the UK because of lack of skilled workers. Diesel buses have been catching fire frequently. Improper maintenance of these buses may lead to fires.
A good reason to upgrade to new electric technologies. This is not the rubbish of 10 years ago
That's kind of the point. As they are full EV, they need far less maintenance. So reducing the need for staff that are impossible to find
I'll pass thanks. Burn your drive can't make cars, so i don't think i want to be anywhere near a bus made by circus performers
So Bad! 👎
Still think the seats should be plastic, the fabric seats are so filthy and unwashed!🤢🤢🤢
Do not get on one.
Interesting to see how much insurance is on these Fire Bombs !
yawn
... He says, whilst typing his underrated (sarcasm) RUclips comment on a Chinese manufactured "fire bomb" electronic device. 🙄
With a double deck the draft while batteries catch on fire will be improved…
Statistics prove that petrol vehicles catch fire far more - ten times more - than EVs. These fires never get into the papers because they are so common.
@@alexmckenna1171 totally wrong : after 10 years if standard flex fuel lines are not replaced or are damaged by rodents, a gasoline car may catch on fire while lacking this proper maintenance and this occurs therefore only on old cars . On many quality modern cars, the flex fuel lines are armoured and good for life time of 15-25 years and 300.000 to 500.000 kms but can still be changed or pressure tested each 10 years for safety..
While it takes air with fuel to cause a fire on a thermal vehicle, an EV lithium charged battery stores airless ALL the energy for 400 kms inside…and in case of a short circuit within one element or between two elements due to a shock or accident, fires are frequent and any damaged EV should be first discharge or transported extremely slowly..a signed responsibility disclaimer discharge is requested from the owner by most towing companies or garages before touching a damaged EV or PHEV, but also, it can take as short as 3 years of service for the lithium battery impedance to increase sufficiently for an excessive charging current to cause overheating. Most lithium fire recent recalls such as Samsung note 7, BYD E6 taxis, B767, TMS Plaid, etc were due to faulty BMS mismanaging batteries ageing and capacity loss..today, about 6 Ev burn per day in China and they are NOT old cars..and lithium fires, like sodium or magnesium fires cannot be stopped with water foam CO2 Halon gaz or powder and typically result is a full destruction while racing cars accidental fires are stopped fast and easy. This is simply NOT comparable…Now, most car “spontaneous “ fire pictured in local newspapers (while type of vehicle is not specified on purpose not to scare owners,) are EV and exceptionally hybrids and old thermal cars . Your 10 times ratio is just an urban legend for naive geeks..One issue is that insurance premiums do no reflect this liability for any prevention to take place, in case the recent ferry fires and destruction would be charge to the vehicle type which initiated the fire instead of being spreaded on all the goods transport and ship insurances going up… then the corresponding EV type liability insurance would be excessive or not available…and this EV type would become basically unsellable….and the current market collapse is also basically deciding it…and came to the same conclusion.
@@alexmckenna1171Totally.
@@alexmckenna1171see ev fires all over… 6 per day in China…
ruclips.net/video/M1Qx9IeAITg/видео.htmlsi=7300tJJIOoqsESE2
BYD Boom fire bus
Where is the news of BYD bus catching fire in UK? Can you share?
Bot
Pls stop being chicken and quote your arguments
Evs don't explode - that's what petrol vehicles do. Statistics prove that petrol vehicles catch fire far more - ten times more - than EVs. These fires never get into the papers because they are so common.
Hey dude still there? Is that common for you to say something with proof and hide away?
Go China!
Electric bus ? You will be sitting on time Bomb
Evs don't explode - that's what petrol vehicles do. Statistics prove that petrol vehicles catch fire far more - ten times more - than EVs. These fires never get into the papers because they are so common.
This is one with an LFP battery which is very unlikely to self-combust. So no more toxic fireworks as these (hopefully) replace the NMC battery powered buses.
@@alexmckenna1171Diesel fires are generally just too easy to put out to make the news.
NMC battery powered EV's tend to set themselves on fire when they are too hot, overcharged, hit anything or just one of the thousands of cells was not quite perfect out of the factory.
NMC is just too unstable. The solar industry has basically abandoned it and switches to the much safer LFP battery chemistry without a highly toxic content like Cobalt.
The current ICE Routemaster design is so much better than this cheap Chinese product!
damn it looks so ugly :/
greedy. hater Eyes are watching this development i hope it makes it into the Market!!! lots of WORKING CLASS people would BENEFIT!!!
Those working class people won't be working if this imported bus takes their job.