Definitely one of your very best videos. The BYD video presentation was good from a top electric vehicle manufacturer, not just buses. I would have liked to have seen more of the chassis close up. I note the bus uses cameras rather than mirrors, another step into the future. ❤
It's not a step into the future, it is another unnecessary costly component to replace when it breaks. Whereas conventional mirrors can easily be swapped from one bus to another, even if the one you take it off is a different model.
@@rogerstarkey5390 No reason a "tool" shouldn't be well designed and pleasing to look at.......the original Routemaster became a tourist attraction in it's own right - a win win success I'd say!
@@rogerstarkey5390london is a bit special. London buses shd not just be considered as a tool as Red london buses has always been an icon of London city streets. Thats why the new route masters only seen in London and designed by Aston Martin.
Thomas Heatherwick and the Heatherwick Studio (who designed the New Routemaster) are really fantastic. Thomas has actually started a university degree on humanised, anti-boring architecture. Really great stuff.
@@mach1nefan I agree - Thomas really understands 'design' - whereas the Alexander body fitted to the BYD is a poor pastiche of his 'new' Routemaster, just by copying 'bits' of it without understanding the concept. London deserves better! Also, is saving a few hundred thousand pounds by buying from China really worth it.....what does it say about London and the UK?
Is it what you call, free market when you only want to sell your stuffs in China, but not accepting products from China? Don't forget China is a big market, buying the products of Apple, Tesla, McDonald's, Coca Cola, Nvidia, AsML, and more.
I think it says something that the conventional buses leaving under thier own power will leave the whiff of diesel fumes behind them whereas the electric ones could drive around in there all day.
Two unconnected things. The BD11 replaces the previous BYD/ADL product. New Routemasters are already up to 13 years old and will reach the end of their natural life over the next few years. If London adopts a policy of zero emission buses by 2030 that will be their last possible date in service
Very good video, thanks. I think the design appearance of the boris bus is more pleasing and much more of a nod to our older buses. That said, I’m sure it will do well. However, it does seem wrong to be importing our London buses from across the world; we need the new government to get involved and build our industries back up to build our own. I’m also not convinced we should be moving to battery powered buses, given the extremely questionable sources and limited supplies of the rare earth minerals required for the batteries. Far better for us to reintroduce the trolley bus which does not rely on batteries and can carry more passengers. They work perfectly well in cities around the world and are far simpler to install and operate.
Glad you enjoyed it. We have of course been importing buses for decades - Volvo and Scania from Sweden, DAF from Netherlands etc. And as for bodies the popular MCV bodywork is from Egypt, the large batch of Scania double-deckers in London were bodied in Poland, and so on. We do manufacture here but Switch Mobility is owned in India; Alexander Dennis is owned in Canada. Wrightbus is the only truly British manufacturer, saved from total collapse by Jo Bamford.
Presumably the heated seats of which you refer will be the inferior technology attached to the self combusting battery beneath the seats. Personally I do not trust the technology and will not be using it, in buses or taxis. My wife has a hybrid car, and I will not have it on the drive at home. It lives off of the property in the street whereby when it goes wrong, it will not harm anything of value. I do not subscribe to current thinking trends, and on principle will not now or ever have followed a crowd. The only reason that I reluctantly accept a hybrid for the wife is, I can no longer purchase an I.C.E Toyota Yaris, and flatly refuse to own any enemy eu produced inferior every day car. I would rather stay at home!
@@chrisround941 I tried out an electric car a while ago that a friend of mine owned (2014 model) and it kept throwing up errors, it turned out it would be too expensive to have it repaired and only the manufacturer could repair it because if any battery packs were swapped out the system would stop working. Someone different was thinking of buying an electric car and I suggested they don't but they got talked in to buying one anyway (2019 model) which still works but the battery capacity has shrunk and it can't drive anywhere near the distance that it is supposed to.
We could do with electric buses everywhere. Even though i really love classic vehicles of all kinds (went to a gathering of classic buses and coaches in Taunton yesterday) electric buses are the future.
KMB, Kowloon Motor Bus' just introduced a fleet of Alexander Dennis BYD double decker electric buses. I wonder if it's the same model as this one. Probably a different model because double deckers usually have three axles.
There’s no connection. The New Routemasters are already up to 12 years old. A long time since a London bus fleet of 1000 vehicles ran their full life span and they will last longer than the notional 14 year limit. They will be life expired over the rest of the decade
That quite an accomplishment, as weight carrying are very underperforming for electric motor. Even Telsa truck. They say 300 miles but really 200 with light load, would love to see the spec.
Is it your comment that is meant to be amusing or vehicles burning that is meant to be amusing. I think neither is it amusing or relevant. Stop the ignorance and FUD.
You said it! But as with trains - despite the UK creating 'railways' - it now seems incapable of manufacturing, but is proud to assemble imported kits......quite pathetic.
Those buses can spy on the passengers. They listen in to your conversations and report straight to Beijing. They can even brainwash you and turn you into a communist. Beware.
@@Alex-pj8nz lol, who said im an amercian. The Adl byd e400ev are made in the uk, but this one is not. Pls get yr info right becore arguing with ppl. Thank you
@@leswall3061I think in this case they are coach built in China by BYD. They did show a Chassis too which would imply it is available as just a Chassis too?
Agree. Looks kinda ugly. And im not a fan of the byd body build. quality. Im more looking forward to the new gen e400ev. Also the icon of the city should not be replaced by some chinese buses.
There does seem to be a lot of discussion and videos about battery vehicles going up in flames, especially BYD ones. I think the rush into current battery technologies has been premature and frankly reckless when there are safer ones coming along.
10:07 @@alacarte5073No, when a battery goes up it is much harder if not sometimes impossible to put out. Danish firefighters submerse electric cars into a water filled container for a week in case the fire starts again. Not sure if that's possible with a huge bus!
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Definitely one of your very best videos. The BYD video presentation was good from a top electric vehicle manufacturer, not just buses. I would have liked to have seen more of the chassis close up. I note the bus uses cameras rather than mirrors, another step into the future. ❤
We already have electric buses with cameras in London (Route 132, etc)
BYD is a quantity electric vehicle manufacturer but not a top quality manufacturer, we should develop our own, more safe, vehicles!?!
It's not a step into the future, it is another unnecessary costly component to replace when it breaks. Whereas conventional mirrors can easily be swapped from one bus to another, even if the one you take it off is a different model.
Nowhere near the stylistic triumph of the new Routemaster - truly a beautiful design!
It's a "Tool"
@@rogerstarkey5390 No reason a "tool" shouldn't be well designed and pleasing to look at.......the original Routemaster became a tourist attraction in it's own right - a win win success I'd say!
@@rogerstarkey5390london is a bit special. London buses shd not just be considered as a tool as Red london buses has always been an icon of London city streets. Thats why the new route masters only seen in London and designed by Aston Martin.
Thomas Heatherwick and the Heatherwick Studio (who designed the New Routemaster) are really fantastic. Thomas has actually started a university degree on humanised, anti-boring architecture. Really great stuff.
@@mach1nefan I agree - Thomas really understands 'design' - whereas the Alexander body fitted to the BYD is a poor pastiche of his 'new' Routemaster, just by copying 'bits' of it without understanding the concept. London deserves better! Also, is saving a few hundred thousand pounds by buying from China really worth it.....what does it say about London and the UK?
Found the video FASCINATING!!
Is it what you call, free market when you only want to sell your stuffs in China, but not accepting products from China? Don't forget China is a big market, buying the products of Apple, Tesla, McDonald's, Coca Cola, Nvidia, AsML, and more.
Hats off to everyone involved from the museum!
I had a look around your buses Leon on the bus deck at Westbourne Park very nice sir 😊
Fantastic video as always Leon, it was a privilege to be a part of this day conducting ST922.
I think it says something that the conventional buses leaving under thier own power will leave the whiff of diesel fumes behind them whereas the electric ones could drive around in there all day.
Excellent video. Lovely vehicles, great to see the very old and this new BYD that should server well. And to see the operations of the museum.
the brand new BYD BD11 is coming to london, to replace the the new routemasters
Two unconnected things. The BD11 replaces the previous BYD/ADL product. New Routemasters are already up to 13 years old and will reach the end of their natural life over the next few years. If London adopts a policy of zero emission buses by 2030 that will be their last possible date in service
Very good video, thanks.
I think the design appearance of the boris bus is more pleasing and much more of a nod to our older buses. That said, I’m sure it will do well. However, it does seem wrong to be importing our London buses from across the world; we need the new government to get involved and build our industries back up to build our own.
I’m also not convinced we should be moving to battery powered buses, given the extremely questionable sources and limited supplies of the rare earth minerals required for the batteries. Far better for us to reintroduce the trolley bus which does not rely on batteries and can carry more passengers. They work perfectly well in cities around the world and are far simpler to install and operate.
Glad you enjoyed it. We have of course been importing buses for decades - Volvo and Scania from Sweden, DAF from Netherlands etc. And as for bodies the popular MCV bodywork is from Egypt, the large batch of Scania double-deckers in London were bodied in Poland, and so on. We do manufacture here but Switch Mobility is owned in India; Alexander Dennis is owned in Canada. Wrightbus is the only truly British manufacturer, saved from total collapse by Jo Bamford.
Next: BYD electric London taxis with sliding doors and heated seats during cold weather. Passengers can pay extra for massage from the seats, hehe.
Presumably the heated seats of which you refer will be the inferior technology attached to the self combusting battery beneath the seats.
Personally I do not trust the technology and will not be using it, in buses or taxis. My wife has a hybrid car, and I will not have it on the drive at home. It lives off of the property in the street whereby when it goes wrong, it will not harm anything of value.
I do not subscribe to current thinking trends, and on principle will not now or ever have followed a crowd. The only reason that I reluctantly accept a hybrid for the wife is, I can no longer purchase an I.C.E Toyota Yaris, and flatly refuse to own any enemy eu produced inferior every day car. I would rather stay at home!
@@chrisround941 I tried out an electric car a while ago that a friend of mine owned (2014 model) and it kept throwing up errors, it turned out it would be too expensive to have it repaired and only the manufacturer could repair it because if any battery packs were swapped out the system would stop working. Someone different was thinking of buying an electric car and I suggested they don't but they got talked in to buying one anyway (2019 model) which still works but the battery capacity has shrunk and it can't drive anywhere near the distance that it is supposed to.
Are Stagecoach making the move any time soon? We could do with electric buses down here in Hastings :-)
We could do with electric buses everywhere. Even though i really love classic vehicles of all kinds (went to a gathering of classic buses and coaches in Taunton yesterday) electric buses are the future.
@@jimmeltonbradley1497 ruclips.net/video/tRuE7C3EFmY/видео.htmlsi=YmVZIITxzBRj94TO
I'm proud of my country now
This has come from China
@@charlotteclarke4665 I'm from china
@@TheEastEndBusRider Oh, that makes sense to me now
KMB, Kowloon Motor Bus' just introduced a fleet of Alexander Dennis BYD double decker electric buses. I wonder if it's the same model as this one. Probably a different model because double deckers usually have three axles.
Rarely in the UK
The result of China having a solid industrial strategy, sadly lacking in the west and the UK especially
There’s no connection. The New Routemasters are already up to 12 years old. A long time since a London bus fleet of 1000 vehicles ran their full life span and they will last longer than the notional 14 year limit. They will be life expired over the rest of the decade
12 years old is nothing, I know of buses that are over 20 and still going strong!
Is this a prototype or the final version? B bus looks better.
Wow, well done to BYD! I didn't think it could be done but they actually managed to build a bus with absolutely zero character whatsoever.
The point is "EV"
I thought BYD only designed the chassis and running gear.
@@SimonEllwood No, this one is all BYD. You might be thinking of ADL Enviro 400 EV
I wonder if Geoff Marshall was at that event. 🤔
And the routemasters are gettin replaced
How many Brits employed - is there even a Brit component ?
Not as good as the old buses which were stylish and had a platfform if you wanted to get on or off at any time.
You can even drive the chassis
Damm our ev bus 1/2 as long or this bus 3 times bigger lol
That quite an accomplishment, as weight carrying are very underperforming for electric motor. Even Telsa truck. They say 300 miles but really 200 with light load, would love to see the spec.
So much technology, but to take a simple bus out from a low loader, is not so much different that's what is done in other less "advanced" countries
Make sure doesn't catch fire keep brigade close 😅
Is it your comment that is meant to be amusing or vehicles burning that is meant to be amusing. I think neither is it amusing or relevant. Stop the ignorance and FUD.
Why are we buying more stuff from China? Can't our bus builders build them cheaper?
You said it! But as with trains - despite the UK creating 'railways' - it now seems incapable of manufacturing, but is proud to assemble imported kits......quite pathetic.
Its reay hard to compete, as Chinese companies can literally use very cheap labour that makes their product very cheap... 🤦🏻♂️
Those buses can spy on the passengers. They listen in to your conversations and report straight to Beijing. They can even brainwash you and turn you into a communist. Beware.
Those buses are made in the UK. You must be a an American 🇺🇸
@@Alex-pj8nz lol, who said im an amercian. The Adl byd e400ev are made in the uk, but this one is not. Pls get yr info right becore arguing with ppl. Thank you
Mientras sigan los autobuses de 2 pisos
Ironic, So Now the Museum will not have any More UK Built Bus's. Political Suicide
Oh dear.
Looks like a Leyland Titan underframe
Are the bodies built in the UK or fully built in China? if built in China, what will happen to the chassis ?
Little has changed with the chassis built elsewhere and the coachwork made in Britain. It has been that way for decades.
@@SimonEllwood Who builds the bodywork?
@@leswall3061I think in this case they are coach built in China by BYD. They did show a Chassis too which would imply it is available as just a Chassis too?
@@SimonEllwood Many thanks,
I'm not really keen on it
Because?
I mean apart from being silent, clean, flat floor, easy to drive, cheaper to run and probably having wifi and seat back phone chargers....?
" Ewwww, I don't like it "
Agree. Looks kinda ugly. And im not a fan of the byd body build. quality. Im more looking forward to the new gen e400ev. Also the icon of the city should not be replaced by some chinese buses.
its like the pacer of the bus world, cheap ugly and will be hated in the future (i personally like pacers but the public says different)
I think most people are indifferent to buses.
ruclips.net/video/tRuE7C3EFmY/видео.htmlsi=YmVZIITxzBRj94TO
Are these vehicles safe? What happens to the driver and passengers?
I shudder to think.
Why would they not be safe? There are over 1500 such vehicles already in service in UK and many thousands more globally
And when RM1768 burned out at Marble Arch in July 1966 did we stop building Routemasters.....?
Same as petrol
There does seem to be a lot of discussion and videos about battery vehicles going up in flames, especially BYD ones. I think the rush into current battery technologies has been premature and frankly reckless when there are safer ones coming along.
10:07 @@alacarte5073No, when a battery goes up it is much harder if not sometimes impossible to put out. Danish firefighters submerse electric cars into a water filled container for a week in case the fire starts again. Not sure if that's possible with a huge bus!
Give our money to china