"He formed the band. He chose the members. He named the band. He chose the music we played. He got us gigs. ... he was very influential, very important, and then slowly lost it - highly intelligent - and just kind of wasted it and blew it all away." -Bill Wyman
@@girlfullofsorrow Sure, a blind fangirl can see it that way too lol. He could be nice, but also very arogant and jealous. At the end of the day, he couldn't handle the business and getting the spotlight stolen.
@@Paul_G73Was he really? Wow. I mean I can kinda see it, but drugs + mental health is a HUGE NO NO. That plus the alcoholism that runs in my maternal lineage, and my closest cousins starting doing drugs at a very young age really helps me stay away from drugs. I often wondered if I only had one trip of ecstasy or something will it help? But then I remember the fates of my favorite musicians, the alcoholism of my family, the early drug abuse of my cousins, the reality and psychology that drugs cause on the human brain and the curiosity goes away. It doesn’t help that I’ve struggled with depression and anxiety since I was 10/11 years old, I’m now 21, so yeah one trip and I’m gone for good, especially because especially in the early days- till now I became hooked on music, it’s my drug, like an addiction, it’s the only thing that helps me escape and cope with my thoughts and my emotions, when I feel like I have nothing to live for anymore I just listen to one of the many hundreds of songs I like (and since I’m an imaginative person) I go to my fantasy world and make up movies in my head to ease my troubles, I also have been writing lyrics since I was 12, so 9 years now, always wanted to be in a band, but if not possible then I’ll just send them to labels or artists that might suit/ interest them. So yeah I’m not healthy at all, and I should get help for that too. But yes mental health and addictive substances, or hobbies are a huge no, especially because as a unstable person that is thing brings back the dopamine your brain has been starving for for so long. So in a way I can see that in him, especially because his relationships with his girlfriends or mother of his kids was unhealthy and I don’t know why but it’s always the very musically gifted or inclined, intrigued that are always hit and plagued with mental illnesses/ issues or other ailments. Which is very strange too.
He wanted to leave the band anyway. He simply stated he didn’t like the direction the music was going in he wanted like the blues. I am still mad he died before he reached his full potential. 😔 I hope he is resting peacefully never forgotten.
This is a clip from the filmed "Stoned' and I'm impressed with how much research the writer did. When the band reformed for their enormous stadium tour in 1989/90 all five members were interviewed exclusively for a documentary film called '25x5 The Continuing Adventures Of The Rolling Stones' and at one point in that documentary Keith Richards is talking about the firing of Brian Jones 21 years earlier. He says: "Mick and I went down there and basically said 'you're out cock - you're fired'. Bill Wyman says in the documentary how Brian stayed in touch with the band and later visited them in the studio, even though there was only a few weeks between Brian's firing and his sad death. This is why you have Keith saying "you're out cock - you're fired" at 1:36 in this clip, and Mick saying "come see us in the studio" at 2:04. The writer clearly watched this documentary, and many others, and has taken things from it. Like I say, I'm impressed with the research the writer did. Bill Wyman confirmed in his autobiography 'Stoned' that Charlie accompanied Mick and Keith to Brian's house that day, Keith says in the documentary I refer to as it being just Mick and Keith who went. Charlie's role was probably as mediator, Charlie had a very gentle personality - Mick and Keith would have done the talking, as shown here.
I loved the stones , my dad introduced me to them & I was listening on my Walkman , insulted for them being old ( then in the 80’s ) yet can’t stand Tory bill wyman who abused girls . Bill wyman was stated to have a sexual relationship with Mandy smith and she was only 13 when they started having sex together. The matter that a poster mentioned in the Glitter thread that he was not charged because the mother was OK with it changes nothing under law. And neither is the fact that it was years ago should make any difference either as all the recent cases prove. And as said, there is enough evidence to pull him in and question\charge Wyman yet still the police\CPS won't do anything. Like I said, its all double standards for as long as a person is still marketable and profitable to the music industry etc.
@@EM-lz9kg Wyman was courting Smith after he met her in nightclub. He waited until she was older. Elvis Presley was seening Priscilla when she was 14 years old in Germany. Plus Wyman was one who invented fretless bass guitar 🎸
@@dindjarin7185 No, he didn't wait until she was older. They began a physical relationship when Mandy was 14. Smith and Wyman married on 2 June 1989 in a civil ceremony on his Suffolk estate; she was 18 and he 52. Smith had by this time developed health issues which she blamed on being on birth control pills since the age of 14, when she said her relationship with Wyman was illegally consummated.
"Keith still has a great deal of respect for Brian. 'Brian was one of those guys who could walk into the studio and pick up an instrument he had never played before, like the marimbas in Under My Thumb or the star in Paint It Black. He’s remembered every time we play. Time Is On My Side….the whole basic idea of the sound of the Stones. That’s why were still talking about him. Dead but not forgotten'." (Relix magazine, 1993)
I never got the impression that the rest of the band wanted this to be permanent. If Brian hadn't died, I'm sure the group would've asked him to return after Mick Taylor left.
@@aryalogo6624 He wasn't bullied he was recovering in a clinic for his alcoholic and drug addiction. Mick and Keith had a job to do, with or without Brian. hardly bullying as you suggested.
Brian Jones was a musician with such a beautiful life and sad ending. The golden stone, the one who ended up being kicked out of his own band. Its such a melancholic story, seeing how such an influential man got ruined in the end.
@@paulsmith3035 I admit he went insane, but somewhere my gut feeling tells me that his bandmates are not really as innocent in contribution to his death as it seems.
It was a sad demise for such a gifted musician. I think the Stones’ early recordings with BJ have stood the test of time remarkably well, his skill as a multi instrumentalist added a lot of variety & interest to their sound.
The thing that doesn’t ring true here is how together Jones is. Given the way the surviving Stones have described him in this period, I highly doubt he came to the door so quickly, so immaculately dressed and then made them tea on a tray.
"I saw him a few days before he died. He lived down the road from me, the house he lived in was very close to mine. You know I loved him a lot. I could have killed him, the amount of times he was so objectionable. He was one of those blokes, man, that you could kill and love. I think everyone involved with Brian it was a total love/hate relationship. But my love was always more in excess than the hate."--Charlie Watts
Brian formed the band. Very intelligent. Beatiful carismatic Brian chose the members. Brian named the band. Brian the genius of the music of 1960 Your friends: jhon lennon, jimmy hendrix, jim morrison, bob dilan george harrison
Here we got: Mick - tries to break the news carefully and considerately Keith - straight to the point Charlie - Not wanting to say anything Bill - probably couldn't handle going over Brian - the guy being fired
@@yassassin6425he formed the band, he was the one who put out the ad. That’s not to say they also weren’t successful after his time in the band, but if not for him there still wouldn’t be the Stones as we know today
i have always been mesmerized with this part of the movie, and the main reason was kula shaker's rendition of ballad of a thin man as you can hear here! crispian mills' voice got me so shook this specific part of the movie became my favorite (even though it was heartbreaking) lmaooo
@@williamlangan5902 And Beatles never went to Brian Epstein funeral only memorial service , people have reasons not attending. Mick had a film to do and Keith Richards never went to any funeral his family was like that.
After knowing a lot about his life, his way of being, is it possible that Brian had some autism? Without a doubt, Brian marked his 60s with McCartney, Lennon, Brian Wilson, Hendrix, and Morrison.
What's really sad big time. Is he started to get another band together according to the former basis Bill Wyman. But then he passed away I was actually happy. That they dedicated shine the light to him. That's my favorite rolling Stone song. I think they paid tribute to him 2 days after he passed away.
So so sad😢for Brian Who started Stones from ❤❤❤❤❤the beginning.I always gobe love Brian and remember him so much.So sad that the life get so much in drogs for him😢buth for me he is always Rolling Stones and a Great gitarrist and all kind off Instrument he could play a real intelligent guy❤❤😢buth he was very off in drogs the last year in Stones.I always gone remember him like I do woth Charlie to❤❤😢rest in peace in heaven maybe you find itch other again in the Angels❤ sky.Love you so much fromma heart❤❤be with you seens the beginning 1961-1962.Stones are the Biggest rockband in the hole world and Mick and Keith and Ronnie stil going on with new turné next year.With Daryl Jones and Steve Jordan so good.And love Bill Wyman a Mick Taylor to so Great guys.wow Long live the Rolling Stones love themso much❤❤❤❤❤
If I could go back into time, man, I would have loved to try and help Brian. Not to say I would have stopped Mick Taylor from taking over (LOVE that guy) but I just hate that Brian destroyed himself at 27. Keith told him once "you'll never make 30" and Brian responded "I know". So sad.
@@Flare4roach -That reminds me, I've read in Ron Wood's book , Ron stated "As a fan of the band (at the time) If I could've gotten to Brian Jones in time, I would've done my best to repair him, he needed a pal". Ron Wood also mentioned that he did meet Brian Jones once but he couldn't understand what he was saying, Brian's was "warbled" when he spoke.
Brian was talented, probably self medicating with drugs This would explain, nervous exhaustion, black dog 'moods', 'Bi-Polar Disorder' The writers did a poor job!
Keith and mick could of done more to help him even to get him off thr drugs and get him sorted out not just kick him out and walk away not good friends to him in my opinion
"Brian was a brilliant, fluent multi-instrumentalist, he was the one who founded the Rolling Stones and he had the creative vision that helped them to evolve organically from a mop-top blues-pop group into the mystical rock gods they became--something that many people today might not realise."--Mick Fleetwood
For people on here having ludicrous arguments about our bands from here in England the Beatles & the Stones , it’s ludicrous, the uk has always produced amazing music & art to share with the world .
It’s depressing to watch because you know he was out of his head from all the drugs and alcohol and if he hadn’t died what band he would of put together after being let go from The Stones.
We will never know exactly what they told Brian, but it's obvious they didn't want him in the band anymore! He was the guy who made the band, very influential in many aspects and a great musician. Had his flaws specially in regards to women, father children and never recognized them. But, if Mick and Keith really wanted Brian with the band, or cared for him, they could helped, like Mick did for Keith when he was arrested in Canada.
@@elisabethschwartz160 His behavior told me that he was a psychopath. Psychopaths behave like psychopaths. Psychopaths don't get better. They get worse. Jones was in decline. He had to go.
@Paul Grey Brian is not here to speak for himself so dont get you. Guilliani is not the only one saying it and no its not just a conspiracy theory... but does it really matter what you and I think and what makes you think your opinion is more important than someone elses opinion...personally am not a Keith fan and thats my right not to be so stop attacking me because we dont agree on this and never will so have a good life and let others be
@ arya logo - If Keith is an asshole, then we his fans are assets. Ha, I was an accountant throughout all my working years except for a short two years working as a computer network administrator just for the fun of it. Keith has been my hero since 1964 when I was just a country kid in grade school. I would have been hurt many times, my feelings especially, and likely physically too, throughout my teens and twenties, but I learned to be as tough as nails through Keith. As an accountant I travelled throughout Canada, reporting financial statements in front of crowds, shaking hands with a couple of our Prime Ministers, encouraged to be my own imperfect self by KEITH RICHARDS. Make your mistakes, live and learn and unlearn if you want to, enjoy your life trip. It's the only one we've got. I loved Brian Jones too. I could tell he was a trained musician because he could play so many different musical instruments. But I could also tell he could have gotten bored with the direction his band was taking. I wish he could have gotten the chance to go out on his own. He could have created a whole new music genre! As for how the Stones' music evolved without Brian, well, I enjoyed their music all along these 56 years, even with every change they made.
“Some visitors speculate that Brian’s distrust of Anita caused tantrums and violence. Stash Klossowski, one of the few outsiders who was close to all three, remembers a very different atmosphere. ‘Keith didn’t mention that time in his own book-he seems to have erased it from memory. But Brian and Anita didn’t slap each other around then. It wasn’t Brian’s style-it was easier just to disappear then to get in a fight.’ Today it’s impossible to disentangle Keith’s true feelings. One of his key descriptions of Brian is as an unpredictable “bunch of guys,” but as James Phelge points out, ‘then he calls Mick a bunch of guys too. I don’t think he can really remember’.”-Sympathy for the Devil by Paul Trynka
Somewhere I read when ringo leave the band in white album session the other three tried to work it to get ringo back and also when george leave the band in get back session the other three also tried hard to get george back, man sometime I wish mick and keith did something like that for brian..
Mick and Keith weren't much on welcoming band members back. The Stones did however invite Bill Wyman and Mick Taylor to play on 2 songs during their 2912 tour. Mick duly acknowledged Brian at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
I think that each one had and has had an important role in The Rolling Stones and it is undeniable, Brian Jones was great and I can say that he had one of the most important roles in the band. This is undeniable but to understand everything, you have to see each perspective, if it is true that the Stones were quite united, in Brian's most needy moments they did not help him as such, but Brian did not have family support or anything, on the other hand Brian was great but he had a lot of problems in terms of relationships, be it friendship, band, partner, or he was very sweet or he got too out of control, there was no self-control, which also affected his work in the band and all this with a drug problem. Anyway, I think it is good to consider different points, I cannot say that Mick and Keith were the worst nor Brian, nor can I think that Mick/Keith or Brian were better, since there were many factors to understand the situation
The Stones could play their instruments better than the Beatles, without tons of overdubs. Just compare a mild, pleasant Beatles show from 1964 to the Stones on TAMI from the same year. Stones smoke them.
Lol people just CANT resist the ocean undertow like pull of having to take sides eh? Or people feel the overwhelming urge to put down or minimize one thing in order to hoist up another lol. I like the Beatles AND the stones. Is that upsetting somehow?
@@lomoholga Outside of the Ed Sullivan tapings, most people have never HEARD a live Beatles song, and that’s for a good reason: The Beatles were a TERRIBLE live act, that’s why. Not exactly THE STONES !
@@gideonthefaker5702 lol so what? Hendrix couldn’t play Are You Experienced live and a number of songs either. It’s so weird hearing grown adults talk like you as if you are still mentally 14-years old - ‘the Stones could play live and the Beatles couldn’t! So the stones were much better!’ Juvenile and sad way to go through life. Imagine missing out on a ton of music because you think like an adolescent LMFAO
@@lomoholga lol so what? Hendrix could play Are You Experienced live and a number of songs. It’s so weird hearing grown adults talk like you as if you are still mentally 14-years old - ‘the Beatles could play live and the Stones couldn’t! Your are right on one thing the stones were much better!’ Juvenile and sad way to go through life. Imagine missing out on a ton of music because you think like an adolescent LMFAO
This whole story of how Brian got fired seems unbelievable. I mean, there were no lawyers involved? Wouldn't Brian have the legal rights to the name "The Rolling Stones" since he was the one that formed and named the band?
@@hudson4053 He had some guests over to his house on the night of July 2nd including a man named Frank Thorogood, an employee of Jones. Both Jones and Thorogood were not getting along. It was stated their relationship had grown violent as Jones had previously informed Thorogood his services were no longer needed. In other words, Jones fired Thorogood. But, and this may have been Jones' biggest mistake, he allowed Thorogood to stick around for a while and even take a swim before his last exit. That is where the details of what happened after become blurry even though Thorogood tried to make it as clear as crystal years later. It was Thorogood himself who decided to confess to the murder of Jones on his death bed in 1993. He told the band's former manager Tom Keylock the following: "It was me that did Brian. I just finally snapped."
I’ll say it because no one else will. Brian’s time was up. Great musician, poor human being. And yes he was murdered by frank thoughgood. But whilst he didn’t deserve murdering he created it himself.
He had almost got fired just a couple weeks before when he tried to skip out on a photo shoot(through the past darkly). Mick got him on the phone and told him point-blank if you don't make it to this session you're out.
The three that broke the news was it Mick, keef, and was it Charlie ? Is so where was Bill . I think i heard Bill Wyman didn't want any part in in ? Correct me if i'm wrong .
Sales and popularity means everything. That's why Justin Bieber is better than Rush? The beatles are an overrated, pop boy band and laypeople love mediocrity; which is why they love the beatles.
Better???? So because Taylor Swift sells more albums than the Stones she is better.Pop boy band??? They started out with covers and simplistic lyrics, but there growth can't be challenged.. There was very little hype with the Beatles. They simply didn't need it. Thank God they came out in the 60's instead of today all the lame websites out there now would have hyped them too much.
See what you are doing is going after a group that it very talented because your life is miserable. Also look up mediocrity. I note you don't list a group that could even come close to JPGR
£100k pay off plus £20k a year for as long as the band keep going??? Assuming the £20k was indexed linked, then based on 1968 monetary rates that was a pretty sweet retirement deal! It’s not like Brian even wrote any of the songs! …….shame he didn’t benefit from it in the end. 😢
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"He formed the band. He chose the members. He named the band. He chose the music we played. He got us gigs. ... he was very influential, very important, and then slowly lost it - highly intelligent - and just kind of wasted it and blew it all away."
-Bill Wyman
True. Keith and jagger are really want brian jones fired but now they need brian jones because they want the music best.
@@zahari052 Great english. Anyway, they didn't want him fired, he went insane.
@@zahari052 he went insane ! Jagger and Richards are gods
@@j.j.4150 He wasn't insane, they bullied him😒. That would make me "insane" too.
@@girlfullofsorrow Sure, a blind fangirl can see it that way too lol. He could be nice, but also very arogant and jealous. At the end of the day, he couldn't handle the business and getting the spotlight stolen.
the guy needed mental health treatment in a way that celebrity culture did not recognize at the time
My mom read up about this and she said that someone hooked Brian Jones on the drugs. Then regret it because it screwed up his brain really bad.
@@DerekBoldiene360 He was bipolar.
He needed a Lot of things
@@Paul_G73Was he really? Wow. I mean I can kinda see it, but drugs + mental health is a HUGE NO NO. That plus the alcoholism that runs in my maternal lineage, and my closest cousins starting doing drugs at a very young age really helps me stay away from drugs. I often wondered if I only had one trip of ecstasy or something will it help? But then I remember the fates of my favorite musicians, the alcoholism of my family, the early drug abuse of my cousins, the reality and psychology that drugs cause on the human brain and the curiosity goes away. It doesn’t help that I’ve struggled with depression and anxiety since I was 10/11 years old, I’m now 21, so yeah one trip and I’m gone for good, especially because especially in the early days- till now I became hooked on music, it’s my drug, like an addiction, it’s the only thing that helps me escape and cope with my thoughts and my emotions, when I feel like I have nothing to live for anymore I just listen to one of the many hundreds of songs I like (and since I’m an imaginative person) I go to my fantasy world and make up movies in my head to ease my troubles, I also have been writing lyrics since I was 12, so 9 years now, always wanted to be in a band, but if not possible then I’ll just send them to labels or artists that might suit/ interest them. So yeah I’m not healthy at all, and I should get help for that too. But yes mental health and addictive substances, or hobbies are a huge no, especially because as a unstable person that is thing brings back the dopamine your brain has been starving for for so long. So in a way I can see that in him, especially because his relationships with his girlfriends or mother of his kids was unhealthy and I don’t know why but it’s always the very musically gifted or inclined, intrigued that are always hit and plagued with mental illnesses/ issues or other ailments. Which is very strange too.
@@Paul_G73
Any sources to support that? 🤔
"You fellows don't make it down here very often" Brian knew what was coming
Crushing to watch, Brian was for a time that spark of life in the band going back to their earliest incarnation.
He was actually starting again another band together just before he died. That's what is what Bill Wyman said.
He wanted to leave the band anyway. He simply stated he didn’t like the direction the music was going in he wanted like the blues. I am still mad he died before he reached his full potential. 😔 I hope he is resting peacefully never forgotten.
I don’t think he truly meant that. The Stones was his band,
Bit of a weird thing to say for a guy who liked to experiment with very non-bluesy instruments like a marimba and a recorder.
@@conorburke1999 Very true now that I think of it.
@@conorburke1999 then again he played all sorts of instruments
@@laanjoo Before he died, was he fired?
This is a clip from the filmed "Stoned' and I'm impressed with how much research the writer did. When the band reformed for their enormous stadium tour in 1989/90 all five members were interviewed exclusively for a documentary film called '25x5 The Continuing Adventures Of The Rolling Stones' and at one point in that documentary Keith Richards is talking about the firing of Brian Jones 21 years earlier. He says: "Mick and I went down there and basically said 'you're out cock - you're fired'. Bill Wyman says in the documentary how Brian stayed in touch with the band and later visited them in the studio, even though there was only a few weeks between Brian's firing and his sad death. This is why you have Keith saying "you're out cock - you're fired" at 1:36 in this clip, and Mick saying "come see us in the studio" at 2:04. The writer clearly watched this documentary, and many others, and has taken things from it. Like I say, I'm impressed with the research the writer did. Bill Wyman confirmed in his autobiography 'Stoned' that Charlie accompanied Mick and Keith to Brian's house that day, Keith says in the documentary I refer to as it being just Mick and Keith who went. Charlie's role was probably as mediator, Charlie had a very gentle personality - Mick and Keith would have done the talking, as shown here.
I loved the stones , my dad introduced me to them & I was listening on my Walkman , insulted for them being old ( then in the 80’s ) yet can’t stand Tory bill wyman who abused girls . Bill wyman was stated to have a sexual relationship with Mandy smith and she was only 13 when they started having sex together. The matter that a poster mentioned in the Glitter thread that he was not charged because the mother was OK with it changes nothing under law. And neither is the fact that it was years ago should make any difference either as all the recent cases prove.
And as said, there is enough evidence to pull him in and question\charge Wyman yet still the police\CPS won't do anything. Like I said, its all double standards for as long as a person is still marketable and profitable to the music industry etc.
@@EM-lz9kg Wyman was courting Smith after he met her in nightclub. He waited until she was older. Elvis Presley was seening Priscilla when she was 14 years old in Germany. Plus Wyman was one who invented fretless bass guitar 🎸
@@EM-lz9kg Bill Wyman was probably the kindest of the Rolling Stones.
@@dindjarin7185 No, he didn't wait until she was older. They began a physical relationship when Mandy was 14. Smith and Wyman married on 2 June 1989 in a civil ceremony on his Suffolk estate; she was 18 and he 52. Smith had by this time developed health issues which she blamed on being on birth control pills since the age of 14, when she said her relationship with Wyman was illegally consummated.
@@MrAschiff Yes this is wrong what you said .
I feel really bad for him. Those drugs really did screw up his brain but I'm happy that they honored him with that song shine the light.
First version "Get a Line" Jagger, Leon Russell song, 1968, one year before Brian died with very touching lyrics, Keith wasn't there.
I can't have been the only one who cried,,,
Me too now I'm sobbing in my bed
Ana Lanza González geez, take it easy. I don’t think it’s worth getting nuts about...
@@analanzagonzalez4863 Same
@@matthewlogan6501 He was way ahead of his time..
Viva la 27
Soft
"Keith still has a great deal of respect for Brian. 'Brian was one of those guys who could walk into the studio and pick up an instrument he had never played before, like the marimbas in Under My Thumb or the star in Paint It Black. He’s remembered every time we play. Time Is On My Side….the whole basic idea of the sound of the Stones. That’s why were still talking about him. Dead but not forgotten'." (Relix magazine, 1993)
I never got the impression that the rest of the band wanted this to be permanent. If Brian hadn't died, I'm sure the group would've asked him to return after Mick Taylor left.
do not think Brian was in as good shape as shown in this video and more than likely it went down much more devastating.
at that time he was recovering in his own space away from the 2 bullies so you nee to o some fact checking
He was a lot happier right before he died and was recovering slowly on his own
And they've got him dressing like he's going to be playing a concert or something.
@@phasergim2154 that's more heartbreaking
@@aryalogo6624 He wasn't bullied he was recovering in a clinic for his alcoholic and drug addiction. Mick and Keith had a job to do, with or without Brian. hardly bullying as you suggested.
Brian Jones was a musician with such a beautiful life and sad ending. The golden stone, the one who ended up being kicked out of his own band. Its such a melancholic story, seeing how such an influential man got ruined in the end.
He was surrounded by assholes😔😒
True
@@girlfullofsorrow find brian was the asshole🤡
@@paulsmith3035 I admit he went insane, but somewhere my gut feeling tells me that his bandmates are not really as innocent in contribution to his death as it seems.
@@Ghost-vg6iq they were all innocent he killed himself with drugs
This got really depressing
charlie watts, man of few words
It was a sad demise for such a gifted musician. I think the Stones’ early recordings with BJ have stood the test of time remarkably well, his skill as a multi instrumentalist added a lot of variety & interest to their sound.
Damn, that actor looks a lot like Brian.
Indeed. The Mick actor on the other hand is hilarious 😆😆 He's trying too hard.
@@techminds1579He sounds a lot like Mick though
Lol! @@clinteastwood6875
Leo Gregory. Superb actor.
@@techminds1579He does the voice and accent justice, I’ll give him that. It’s not Halloween, it’s acting.
The thing that doesn’t ring true here is how together Jones is. Given the way the surviving Stones have described him in this period, I highly doubt he came to the door so quickly, so immaculately dressed and then made them tea on a tray.
He still had a few ladies around who might've presented the tea . It's often stated that Brian was hopeless in organising the household.
"I saw him a few days before he died. He lived down the road from me, the house he lived in was very close to mine. You know I loved him a lot. I could have killed him, the amount of times he was so objectionable. He was one of those blokes, man, that you could kill and love. I think everyone involved with Brian it was a total love/hate relationship. But my love was always more in excess than the hate."--Charlie Watts
Brian formed the band. Very intelligent. Beatiful carismatic
Brian chose the members.
Brian named the band.
Brian the genius of the music of 1960
Your friends: jhon lennon, jimmy hendrix, jim morrison, bob dilan george harrison
Well said !!! :)
He did, but Ian Stewart brought in Charlie Watts. Not Brian Jones. Little fact. Wasn't all about Brian Jones.
Jones absolutely did NOT form the band or "choose" the members.
That is a lie.
He was no where near a genius.
Here we got:
Mick - tries to break the news carefully and considerately
Keith - straight to the point
Charlie - Not wanting to say anything
Bill - probably couldn't handle going over
Brian - the guy being fired
Gosh......this scene here is so sad.
The smartest thing they could have done. They should have done it sooner when Brian said he wasn't' going to play guitar anymore.
You seriously need to talk to a counselor. Your hate obsession on every video isn’t normal.
"I regret Brian dying, I remember thinking ‘Brian, how dare you leave the band’ because we were all very close."-Keith, 2012
No.Jones no.stones! The whole world knows that!!! RIP.Brian !!!
As it turned out, reality and the whole world would disagree.
@@yassassin6425he formed the band, he was the one who put out the ad. That’s not to say they also weren’t successful after his time in the band, but if not for him there still wouldn’t be the Stones as we know today
@@J..398 Brian Started it but '66 - '76 were the best Stones years.
i have always been mesmerized with this part of the movie, and the main reason was kula shaker's rendition of ballad of a thin man as you can hear here! crispian mills' voice got me so shook this specific part of the movie became my favorite (even though it was heartbreaking) lmaooo
What is the name of this film?
Stoned (2005)
Stoned !
R.I.P ♠️🖤⭐⭐⭐
What movie is this?
Stoned 2005
Who was the one who didn’t give Brian a handshake before they left?
Charlie
@@hippiesmile2851 Did they have beef in real life?
Charlie and Bill went to Brian's funeral. Mick and Keith didn't.
@@williamlangan5902 And Beatles never went to Brian Epstein funeral only memorial service , people have reasons not attending. Mick had a film to do and Keith Richards never went to any funeral his family was like that.
Charlie Watts the drummer.
What is the name of the movie?
Stoned
@@hippiesmile2851 i know it's a bit late, but thanks!
RIP Brian
Edit: and Charlie
The actor looks incredibly like BJ
B Saunders what’s interesting is the actor was 27 when they made this movie. same age as brian when he died
hair
@@elihartsoe6718 what is this movie???
Trisha D it’s called stoned
How can you say that? He's completely different! This film is scum.
What film is this?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoned_(film)
Mary Poppins.
Movie Name?
Stoned
movie?
Stoned
why is there only 3 that came to brians house? and whos the guy with mick and keith? bill or charlie?
That's Charlie
@@hippiesmile2851 wheres bill ?
@@yusam028 Bill never went they wanted Charlie in case it got heated up. They seen Charlie Watts as the older peacekeeper.
You don't know???
That was Ringo
After knowing a lot about his life, his way of being, is it possible that Brian had some autism? Without a doubt, Brian marked his 60s with McCartney, Lennon, Brian Wilson, Hendrix, and Morrison.
Brian was mentally ill ...He was a psychopath and a malignant narcissist, not autistic.
Get lost, fake fan.@@williardbillmore5713
What's really sad big time. Is he started to get another band together according to the former basis Bill Wyman. But then he passed away I was actually happy. That they dedicated shine the light to him. That's my favorite rolling Stone song. I think they paid tribute to him 2 days after he passed away.
2:23 What did Q do at Brian's house?
What movie is this from?
Keith impersonator has green eyes but in fact, Keith's eyes are brown.
whats the film called?
Stoned
What is this from
Stoned
im not very keen on that dylan cover , who is it ?
Ok incel
Now I'm sobbing in my bed
So so sad😢for Brian Who started Stones from ❤❤❤❤❤the beginning.I always gobe love Brian and remember him so much.So sad that the life get so much in drogs for him😢buth for me he is always Rolling Stones and a Great gitarrist and all kind off Instrument he could play a real intelligent guy❤❤😢buth he was very off in drogs the last year in Stones.I always gone remember him like I do woth Charlie to❤❤😢rest in peace in heaven maybe you find itch other again in the Angels❤ sky.Love you so much fromma heart❤❤be with you seens the beginning 1961-1962.Stones are the Biggest rockband in the hole world and Mick and Keith and Ronnie stil going on with new turné next year.With Daryl Jones and Steve Jordan so good.And love Bill Wyman a Mick Taylor to so Great guys.wow Long live the Rolling Stones love themso much❤❤❤❤❤
I don’t think he could have dealt with the direction of music in general past 1969. I couldn’t see him co existing with rap and heavy metal.
he could have become a jazz player jazz is just a step up from blues
He was his own worst enemy.
If I could go back into time, man, I would have loved to try and help Brian. Not to say I would have stopped Mick Taylor from taking over (LOVE that guy) but I just hate that Brian destroyed himself at 27. Keith told him once "you'll never make 30" and Brian responded "I know". So sad.
@@Flare4roach -That reminds me, I've read in Ron Wood's book , Ron stated "As a fan of the band (at the time) If I could've gotten to Brian Jones in time, I would've done my best to repair him, he needed a pal". Ron Wood also mentioned that he did meet Brian Jones once but he couldn't understand what he was saying, Brian's was "warbled" when he spoke.
But his (with keith) Riffs on
tell me
And little by little...
still give chills ♤♡◇♧
and course Mr Wyeman and Watts...woa... yeah
what movie is this
sandesh pun Stoned
'Stoned' Poor script which made Brian, appear to look like a parody.
Insulting at best, sadly.
Fidel I agree it’s sad because it’s literally the only stone movie there is
Brian was talented, probably self medicating with drugs
This would explain, nervous exhaustion, black dog 'moods',
'Bi-Polar Disorder' The writers did a poor job!
it's stoned
mick voice on point, keith can’t have blue eyes like that tho
Was this really how it went down?
yes
No, movies are never like the real life
MOVIE ?
Stoned
Brian Jones should of got more money then that! Such a shame he is the one created the band!
He got nothing. Cause it's Mick and Keith's band at this point. two legends.
Jones sis NOT create the band. He joined Keith's band.
When this you see remember me and bear in your mind
Keith and mick could of done more to help him even to get him off thr drugs and get him sorted out not just kick him out and walk away not good friends to him in my opinion
People like this who treated me so bad and are so ungrateful, i would never call them "my friends".
Keith and Mick were only barely better than Brian in terms of drug abuse.
@@sasca854 they take drugs too, such hypocrites😒
@@girlfullofsorrow but at least they could control the habits
exactly, i wish they helped him :(
Mick and Keith were behind this and then everyone else agreed to it, so did Brian
Where is that from??
Stoned (2005)
Hippie Smile2 thxxx
Brian Jones is the leader of the Band, Why would they freaking fire him. Maybe if Jones lived Rolling Stones would been a small band
Because he couldn't function anymore as a musician. They couldn't have taken him out on the road with them. He was too far gone with the drugs
DO YOUR HOMEWORK....
@@seadog2396 drugs killed him ! he couldn't function so Mick and Keith fired him. did they right thing those two.
@@antony9384 True, but then Keith became a hard core addict too.
@@kpax45 He survived. That's the difference.
"Brian was a brilliant, fluent multi-instrumentalist, he was the one who founded the Rolling Stones and he had the creative vision that helped them to evolve organically from a mop-top blues-pop group into the mystical rock gods they became--something that many people today might not realise."--Mick Fleetwood
For people on here having ludicrous arguments about our bands from here in England the Beatles & the Stones , it’s ludicrous, the uk has always produced amazing music & art to share with the world .
The same way they did Sid Barrett. Pink Floyd. Took his band away .
The Stones were NEVER Brians band. Brian asked if he could join Keith's band and Keith agreed.
Realmente esse ator é a cara do Brian
It’s depressing to watch because you know he was out of his head from all the drugs and alcohol and if he hadn’t died what band he would of put together after being let go from The Stones.
The guy who plays Mick kinda looks like him but he sounds nothing like him.
I think he’s supposed to be Keith, not Mick. I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure
@@KealohaHarrison Lmfao What are you on? Keith is not even blonde.
@@techminds1579 no that guy’s supposed to be Charlie, I was talking about the guy who told Brian he was fired.
@@KealohaHarrison Nigga, the other guy Ghost Ninja was talking about Mick and you're responding with other shit.
What the movie title?
Stoned
the wigs are so bad oh my god
Ok incel
Could have been worse. Fake mop top wigs.
What movie? Please someone help. I need to watch this!
Stoned
Read the book.
Oh shit it's the guy who played Q in Skyfall.
You know you’ve hit bottom when Keef is telling you to get your act together.
the wigs are terrible
The guy playing Mick Jagger was pretty convincing. The guy playing Keith Richards not as good.
when the people you thought will never turn on you, turned on you 😢💔
Let all the world say what they may
Keith Richards *kicks bottles in disgust*
Okay lad
I could picture him doing that in real life if the bottles were in the way of where he was walking!
We will never know exactly what they told Brian, but it's obvious they didn't want him in the band anymore! He was the guy who made the band, very influential in many aspects and a great musician.
Had his flaws specially in regards to women, father children and never recognized them.
But, if Mick and Keith really wanted Brian with the band, or cared for him, they could helped, like Mick did for Keith when he was arrested in Canada.
Jones was a psychopath. He had to go.
@@williardbillmore5713
Who told you that? Keith?
@@elisabethschwartz160 His behavior told me that he was a psychopath.
Psychopaths behave like psychopaths.
Psychopaths don't get better. They get worse.
Jones was in decline. He had to go.
@@elisabethschwartz160 Willard is obsessed and disturbed. He needs to get off the Internet once and awhile, heh.
Get off your sock account, Willard, lolol.@RicksterGbot
why was charlie watts seen as the bad guy?
Actually, from what I've read, Charlie just came to make sure no fight started.
when kEITH WAS THE ONE WHO PULLED THE KNIFE OUT THREATENING BRIAN ON THE DAY SUCH AN ARSHOLE
@Paul Grey Brian is not here to speak for himself so dont get you. Guilliani is not the only one saying it and no its not just a conspiracy theory... but does it really matter what you and I think and what makes you think your opinion is more important than someone elses opinion...personally am not a Keith fan and thats my right not to be so stop attacking me because we dont agree on this and never will so have a good life and let others be
He , and Bill , did not stand up for Brian
per Bill
@ arya logo - If Keith is an asshole, then we his fans are assets. Ha, I was an accountant throughout all my working years except for a short two years working as a computer network administrator just for the fun of it. Keith has been my hero since 1964 when I was just a country kid in grade school. I would have been hurt many times, my feelings especially, and likely physically too, throughout my teens and twenties, but I learned to be as tough as nails through Keith. As an accountant I travelled throughout Canada, reporting financial statements in front of crowds, shaking hands with a couple of our Prime Ministers, encouraged to be my own imperfect self by KEITH RICHARDS. Make your mistakes, live and learn and unlearn if you want to, enjoy your life trip. It's the only one we've got. I loved Brian Jones too. I could tell he was a trained musician because he could play so many different musical instruments. But I could also tell he could have gotten bored with the direction his band was taking. I wish he could have gotten the chance to go out on his own. He could have created a whole new music genre! As for how the Stones' music evolved without Brian, well, I enjoyed their music all along these 56 years, even with every change they made.
“Some visitors speculate that Brian’s distrust of Anita caused tantrums and violence. Stash Klossowski, one of the few outsiders who was close to all three, remembers a very different atmosphere. ‘Keith didn’t mention that time in his own book-he seems to have erased it from memory. But Brian and Anita didn’t slap each other around then. It wasn’t Brian’s style-it was easier just to disappear then to get in a fight.’ Today it’s impossible to disentangle Keith’s true feelings. One of his key descriptions of Brian is as an unpredictable “bunch of guys,” but as James Phelge points out, ‘then he calls Mick a bunch of guys too. I don’t think he can really remember’.”-Sympathy for the Devil by Paul Trynka
Somewhere I read when ringo leave the band in white album session the other three tried to work it to get ringo back and also when george leave the band in get back session the other three also tried hard to get george back, man sometime I wish mick and keith did something like that for brian..
Mick and Keith weren't much on welcoming band members back. The Stones did however invite Bill Wyman and Mick Taylor to play on 2 songs during their 2912 tour. Mick duly acknowledged Brian at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
@@williamlangan5902 agree
Agree 👍 well, the Beatles had real love and respect for each other . Real brothers for sure ❤
I think that each one had and has had an important role in The Rolling Stones and it is undeniable, Brian Jones was great and I can say that he had one of the most important roles in the band. This is undeniable but to understand everything, you have to see each perspective, if it is true that the Stones were quite united, in Brian's most needy moments they did not help him as such, but Brian did not have family support or anything, on the other hand Brian was great but he had a lot of problems in terms of relationships, be it friendship, band, partner, or he was very sweet or he got too out of control, there was no self-control, which also affected his work in the band and all this with a drug problem. Anyway, I think it is good to consider different points, I cannot say that Mick and Keith were the worst nor Brian, nor can I think that Mick/Keith or Brian were better, since there were many factors to understand the situation
What a shame! (I mean the film)
what film is it?
@@user-ts2tm7zu1b "Stoned" is the title.
@@user-ts2tm7zu1b This film stoned it is false on brians death no one killed him
Who know what's the name of this film?
Stoned [2005]
Thanks!! I'm from Argentina.
The Stones could play their instruments better than the Beatles, without tons of overdubs. Just compare a mild, pleasant Beatles show from 1964 to the Stones on TAMI from the same year. Stones smoke them.
Lol people just CANT resist the ocean undertow like pull of having to take sides eh?
Or people feel the overwhelming urge to put down or minimize one thing in order to hoist up another lol.
I like the Beatles AND the stones. Is that upsetting somehow?
@@lomoholga Outside of the Ed Sullivan tapings, most people have never HEARD a live
Beatles song, and that’s for a good reason: The Beatles were a TERRIBLE
live act, that’s why. Not exactly THE STONES !
@@gideonthefaker5702 lol so what? Hendrix couldn’t play Are You Experienced live and a number of songs either.
It’s so weird hearing grown adults talk like you as if you are still mentally 14-years old - ‘the Stones could play live and the Beatles couldn’t! So the stones were much better!’
Juvenile and sad way to go through life. Imagine missing out on a ton of music because you think like an adolescent LMFAO
@@lomoholga lol so what? Hendrix could play Are You Experienced live and a number of songs.
It’s so weird hearing grown adults talk like you as if you are still mentally 14-years old - ‘the Beatles could play live and the Stones couldn’t! Your are right on one thing the stones were much better!’
Juvenile and sad way to go through life. Imagine missing out on a ton of music because you think like an adolescent LMFAO
@@lomoholga So is this one of your hopeless accounts Linda Jones aka Gideon Harris ? Let the URL YT kn ow before it gets worse kiddie fiddler.
The Stones are still touring 55 years after Brian’s death.
The band Brian formed is still touring after 62 years. That's quite a legacy to have.
This whole story of how Brian got fired seems unbelievable. I mean, there were no lawyers involved? Wouldn't Brian have the legal rights to the name "The Rolling Stones" since he was the one that formed and named the band?
He had, Brian's group fought for his rights
è per questo che è stato ucciso!
What’s the song at the beginning?
Ballad Of A Thin Man - Bob Dylan...I don't know who did this but that's not the Dylan version.
ruclips.net/video/84upSQIDUYU/видео.html
00:30
Brian Jones was murdered
J m no he drowned bc of drugs duh😣
@@hudson4053 He had some guests over to his house on the night of July 2nd including a man named Frank Thorogood, an employee of Jones.
Both Jones and Thorogood were not getting along. It was stated their relationship had grown violent as Jones had previously informed Thorogood his services were no longer needed. In other words, Jones fired Thorogood.
But, and this may have been Jones' biggest mistake, he allowed Thorogood to stick around for a while and even take a swim before his last exit.
That is where the details of what happened after become blurry even though Thorogood tried to make it as clear as crystal years later. It was Thorogood himself who decided to confess to the murder of Jones on his death bed in 1993. He told the band's former manager Tom Keylock the following: "It was me that did Brian. I just finally snapped."
@@jm-xb1kv yeah true he was murder he is great swimmers he just can't die and i was thinking too
@@hudson4053 wrong no drugs were found in autopsy he was murdered
@@jm-xb1kv introduced through Keith Richards arsholes
Needless to say but the band had no idea where Mick Taylor was going to take them after the Brian Jones years
They had worked with Taylorin the studio before they fired Brian. They knew how big they were going to get.
You wouldn't know, fake fan.@@williardbillmore5713
WHAT THE FUCK THAT IS SO SAD AHH
Oh the English and their reserve. Hello mate! You’re fired….. right on… cheerio then
Ben Wishaw makes a good Keith.
I’ll say it because no one else will. Brian’s time was up. Great musician, poor human being. And yes he was murdered by frank thoughgood. But whilst he didn’t deserve murdering he created it himself.
No one else will say it because it's rubbish.
It must have been devastating for Brian to face that rejection.
He had to know it was coming. He had done everything he could think of to bring it on. He wanted to be fired.
He had almost got fired just a couple weeks before when he tried to skip out on a photo shoot(through the past darkly). Mick got him on the phone and told him point-blank if you don't make it to this session you're out.
The three that broke the news was it Mick, keef, and was it Charlie ? Is so where was Bill . I think i heard Bill Wyman didn't want any part in in ? Correct me if i'm wrong .
Bill was a coward.
Bill didn't want to hurt his friend. I hope someday you'll understand that feeling.@@williardbillmore5713
I want to cry with how they treated him..💔😪💐🌠
2:24 "You get your act together mate" Did Richards really say that? He was already a heroin addict at that stage!
Sales and popularity means everything. That's why Justin Bieber is better than Rush?
The beatles are an overrated, pop boy band and laypeople love mediocrity; which is why they love the beatles.
Better???? So because Taylor Swift sells more albums than the Stones she is better.Pop boy band??? They started out with covers and simplistic lyrics, but there growth can't be challenged.. There was very little hype with the Beatles. They simply didn't need it. Thank God they came out in the 60's instead of today all the lame websites out there now would have hyped them too much.
See what you are doing is going after a group that it very talented because your life is miserable. Also look up mediocrity. I note you don't list a group that could even come close to JPGR
£100k pay off plus £20k a year for as long as the band keep going??? Assuming the £20k was indexed linked, then based on 1968 monetary rates that was a pretty sweet retirement deal! It’s not like Brian even wrote any of the songs! …….shame he didn’t benefit from it in the end. 😢
Except he should have gotten credit on multiple songs.
i wish he gave up drugs
Would have been alive was drugs that killed him.
Apparently he did. He didn’t give up drinking wine though.
The problem was Brian was hooked on barbiturates and tranquilizers. Its hard for anyone to function under their influence.