Bob Gatzen - Bass Drum Tuning

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  • Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024

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  • @djkdrums88
    @djkdrums88 10 лет назад +41

    "Never think you'd get excited about wrinkles, but I do.." - Bob Gatzen

  • @FecesPeces
    @FecesPeces 13 лет назад +1

    Bob is a fantastic teacher. He makes everything so understandable and interesting. His obvious love of all things drums also shows. Overall a great guy! Thanks Mr. Gatzen!

  • @flflf
    @flflf 13 лет назад +4

    Hey Bob, thank you very much for taking your time to make such grate videos. I've seen many lesson dvds but no one took the tuning subject so seriously. These videos have helped me alot and now my kit finally sounds great.....Can't wait to record my first album with it this summer :D

  • @RyanPclifton
    @RyanPclifton 8 лет назад +33

    4:34 . youre welcome

  • @pulsingdrums
    @pulsingdrums 14 лет назад +3

    Bob is so amazing that he can play his bass drum with a pedal while correcting the pitch of the front head ! He has invested in a extensible leg.

  • @BubbleWrapPerson
    @BubbleWrapPerson 10 месяцев назад

    Wow! I found it! This is the series of videos that taught me how to tune so many years ago. I still use all of this today!

  • @dinkyemg
    @dinkyemg 14 лет назад

    bob, thanx to all your videos on tuning the drums I got my kit sounding great. with this vid I got my bass drum sounding just how I wanted it to. thanx again for helping me with tuning the toms by answering my questions.

  • @danagboyer
    @danagboyer 6 лет назад

    Always loved Bob's enthusiasm and his playing, as well as his tech ability. We have Bob to thank for the great Evans stuff, everybody. He's the R&D over there.

  • @ChainGuN2
    @ChainGuN2 15 лет назад

    Most informative video of tuning bass drums I've ever seen!!! Every other one is just 3-4 mins. of telling you how to turn nuts and bolts.

  • @incubrian
    @incubrian 3 года назад

    there are a millions vids on youtube about "how to tune" - if you want to tune drums better than all those, Bob Gatzen is the guy you want. his techniques are the gold standard.

  • @filitalian
    @filitalian 12 лет назад +1

    Both are good. Get a couple of towels or some other muffling to tape around the outside too. I don't go for 'LPP' but crank a little more to get some beater rebound.

  • @bluefox216
    @bluefox216 15 лет назад

    It's thanks to his snare tuning video that i finally got my snare drum sounding good, so yeah i think i can respect him for that. Also i really like that bass drum sound he has there, thats a great sound for Rock/Heavy Metal

  • @therealtreeguy65
    @therealtreeguy65 15 лет назад

    Bob you're the man!
    I just picked up the same Even's head with the foam rings. But I thought the foam rings was so you could lose the pillow. As a matter of fact, now I need to go open it back up and put it in. I just snugged it down to what I thought sounded good, then decided to check for help off RUclips to get the best out of the bass.
    I think I'm going to dig this head and sound. I'll come back and let you know what I think.
    Anyway thanks Dave

  • @martonhellinger
    @martonhellinger 13 лет назад

    You are a real teacher! Clear correct, easy to use technique... Thanks!!

  • @BeNice3525
    @BeNice3525 10 лет назад +4

    Thanks Bob , please don't listen to the trolls and idiots they are everywhere on RUclips...this helped me a lot

  • @CliffB4
    @CliffB4 13 лет назад

    @expressAnt That's for the EMAD 1 as they had had trouble with the sleeve. If you pay attention, he's using the EMAD 2. They have an improved sleeve for the dampening ring.

  • @joshuachan56
    @joshuachan56 14 лет назад

    I'm a 3 day old drummer and i have problem tuning my bass and this really helps! Thx Bob! :D

  • @jimmienahas4156
    @jimmienahas4156 11 лет назад

    "I never think you'd get excited about wrinkles but I do, ooh now they go away, HA! Look at that Magic." Priceless. AWESOME!

  • @Gretschdrums75
    @Gretschdrums75 14 лет назад

    This exercise worked well for me. My kick is a Yamaha Maple Custom and never sounded particularly meaty. Not like my old Gretsch Jasper shelled drums. I know they are different but this made a difference.

  • @Jiveness
    @Jiveness 12 лет назад +1

    Has anyone ever witnessed Bob Gatzen actually playing a drum set?

  • @robgarbo
    @robgarbo 15 лет назад

    I used to shop at his store in CT, he designs lots of products for companies like Evans. But there's no doubt he knows what he's doing so I trust his endorsements.

  • @PragueMeddler
    @PragueMeddler 16 лет назад

    Dude, I've always been a die-hard Remo fan but after listening to Mr. Gatzen's tunings and all...I really feel the need to try out Evans. Especially this EMAD system for the bass....what an incredible sound...

  • @leninfernandez3769
    @leninfernandez3769 2 года назад

    thank you, this is how i learnt to tune drums.

  • @jwauchope673
    @jwauchope673 13 лет назад

    thanks Bob, just got a new kit and the bass drum sounded terrible, now its perfect.

  • @ddiotte
    @ddiotte 13 лет назад

    I've tried various materials to help muffle the sound in my kick. I ended up using bubble wrap because i had it kicking around and i've never taken it out. Just the right amount of muffle with some resonance...depending how much you use and how tight you pack it in. Works well for me. I also mounted an Audix D6 inside the drum with DW"s internal miking system and no hole on the outer head which give me a nice full sound from my Premier Genista birch shell. It goes BOOM!!!

  • @St0cks_01
    @St0cks_01 15 лет назад

    the remo powersonic head gives a nice dark thud but if you basically fill your bass drum half way up it will give a thud but not as dark as a powersonic head.
    hope it helps.

  • @jmotter92
    @jmotter92 15 лет назад

    its a beast. i have a powerstroke 3, but they are both good. get the emad if you want a controlled sound, but if you want resonance, get the powerstroke.

  • @dabigdrummer
    @dabigdrummer 15 лет назад

    There are little pads called click pads you put right where your beater hits the head and it created a good noticeable click. There are also other micing techniques you can use while recording to bring out that beaters attack sound without the click pads.

  • @decentdrummer911
    @decentdrummer911 15 лет назад

    Wow thanks man this video helped me so much. I have an Aquarian Superkick I, and I tightened both sides of the bass and stuffed it full of blankets. I'm definitely going to attempt your way. I also eventually want to buy an Emad for my bass.

  • @bluePickelJuice
    @bluePickelJuice 12 лет назад

    im not jokeing when i say i acualy use this video to fall asleep ive watched it like 50 times

  • @Kariokid
    @Kariokid 16 лет назад

    lol "They got scientists working at Evans, i'm tellin' ya."
    Always great videos, Bob! Thanks!

  • @tookurjaerbs
    @tookurjaerbs 12 лет назад

    So very thankful for the internet, or I might never have learned it this way.

  • @jordansavage
    @jordansavage 11 лет назад

    All you guys that are asking about getting that really clicky "metal" sounding kick sound here is a simple tip I've seen used regularly! - Use one of the reinforcing patches like the Remo falam slam patches and gaffa tape a coin to it (such as a 10p or a quarter) at the position where the beater contacts the head. Sounds crazy, but it works. I don't use it personally because that's not the sound I look for. Hope this helped somebody!

  • @Grooovin1
    @Grooovin1 15 лет назад

    Good stuff Bob, you my friend are a great educator!

  • @EZCreepin
    @EZCreepin 14 лет назад

    i will be lucky to even get a glimpse!! it would just be awesome to know how to do that in general to

  • @pepe7drum
    @pepe7drum 12 лет назад

    no shit but i learned a lot from this man few years ago, great tutorial

  • @mrhappycow13
    @mrhappycow13 16 лет назад +1

    ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh that sound is AMAZING makes me cry. I wish I could get there

  • @chenymontes
    @chenymontes 15 лет назад

    In the batter side I put an used head with the metal removed and a center hole cut to make a 3 to 4 inch band first, then the new head. At front head I do what you did and then tune the drum without muffler.

  • @martinthejerk
    @martinthejerk 9 лет назад

    bob, i love your tips and have followed your vids for quite some time now... really appreciate the logic and rationale you use to standardize drum tuning in a way that folks can understand and consistently reproduce. one thing ive always wondered about this technique is if using a weight of known mass might help standardize the LPP approach... any idea how much pressure youre applying and what that might translate into in terms of a weight to be placed in the center of the batter head when de-tensioning to get the wrinkles?

  • @dsmoove5961
    @dsmoove5961 Год назад

    Much {#RESPECT}, to {Mr. Gatzen🎼👑🥁💿📀🌍}, always #KeepGroovin🎼🥁🥁🥁🥁!!!

  • @kylosme
    @kylosme 12 лет назад

    holy crap i just did everything this guy said and my bass drum sounds SWEET!

  • @phantomrash
    @phantomrash 14 лет назад

    "they got scientists working at evans, I'm tellin ya..." this guy is great. Thanks for the awesome information!

  • @tomathanielguitar
    @tomathanielguitar 15 лет назад

    this guys really passionate about drum sounds ( heartbeat bugoom bugoom while thrusting fist)

  • @ThrowingItAway
    @ThrowingItAway 13 лет назад +2

    I highly recommend getting a EMAD or GMAD absolutely amazing drum heads

  • @ceramiclion
    @ceramiclion 16 лет назад

    yeah, everytime you alter the bass drum in any way you should tune it. I know its a pain, but you'll be happy you did.

  • @willbrasil
    @willbrasil 16 лет назад

    bob, you rock dude!

  • @DrummerGS
    @DrummerGS 17 лет назад

    Dude, you rock. Thanks. God bless you, hehe. You saved my life.

  • @blueIIIz
    @blueIIIz 12 лет назад

    Good Video Bob! Miss Creative Music! Studied there for a few years...
    Tim Curtin

  • @TheBlackMonster74
    @TheBlackMonster74 14 лет назад

    I tuned my bass drum in like 10 minutes thanks to this video, shit sounds so good :))

  • @HenohenomohejiBand
    @HenohenomohejiBand 13 лет назад

    very very very useful, thank you so much

  • @calebawilson3
    @calebawilson3 13 лет назад +3

    8:52 "You guys hear that? I don't know if I did. You sure you guys gave me the right part?"

  • @paice95
    @paice95 15 лет назад

    i have the evans emad for the bass drum. it's really awesome. best head i ever had.

  • @volcro5
    @volcro5 15 лет назад

    thanks a lot, first when i hit the bass it kept echoing so i thought it madea wrong noise and it was too high but after i loosened it and put a pillow inside it works perfectly 10/10 :))))))))))))!!!!!!!

  • @Zarnith
    @Zarnith 15 лет назад

    just used all his vids to tune ma kit. Sounds awesome now XD didn't even need to buy new heads

  • @Stratocoaster08
    @Stratocoaster08 12 лет назад

    Bob's such a goof...I love it! Btw, really helpful, thank you!

  • @FuzzyPicture
    @FuzzyPicture 14 лет назад

    @sexyzacdrummer yes it does. also, tuning a little tighter can control the vibrations by waking the wavelengths shorter, thus reducing overtones while still allowing the drum to breathe. i always make my 22" shine, especially during fast double bass.

  • @digitalwavemm
    @digitalwavemm 11 лет назад

    I use an Evans EQ2 batter with a Retro Screen from Evans, (with an Eq pad "pillow" mounted inside barely touching the batter head) on a 22inch Yamaha Recording Custom Bass Drum (yes WITH my toms mounted on them) and engineers constantly compliment my sound... It is very thick and punchy with plenty of low end...
    I like the EQpad because the velcro keeps it in place, so I get a consistant sound.
    Yamaha Rec Custom drums are known for the huge Bass drum sound, so I'm sure that is most of it.

  • @dannybrickwell
    @dannybrickwell 14 лет назад

    @boredomtube I wouldn't say it's random - they're tuning from years upon years of experience of knowing the instrument really well, and knowing how it responds to whatever they do to it.

  • @dmckay91
    @dmckay91 14 лет назад

    Bob is my hero :)

  • @A_Flash1992
    @A_Flash1992 15 лет назад

    cross tuning is extremely easy and shouldn't be that confusing..You obviously don't have to tune the entire drum from beginning to finish with the cross pattern. The main purpose of the cross pattern is to ensure that the head is centered over the drum (this gets the head to be in tune with itself). It also helps prevent potential damage of the head(s). After the head is centered, you can tune from lug to lug in any pattern you desire untul you get the sound that you're specifically looking for.

  • @mrsteve3232
    @mrsteve3232 7 лет назад

    And you've got some great tips and products

  • @drumer671
    @drumer671 15 лет назад

    he knows what he's doing

  • @gmrios
    @gmrios 12 лет назад

    Bravo! Great video!

  • @97Grimsta
    @97Grimsta 12 лет назад

    Great vid. Helped a lot.

  • @averyjamesbrooks
    @averyjamesbrooks 15 лет назад

    Thanks for a great tutorial!

  • @senseoftaste
    @senseoftaste 15 лет назад

    Hey, Bob. I use two kicks and I could easily go insane trying to get them as identical as possible. Just wondering if you had any tips or suggestions? Thanks.
    Great videos, BTW

  • @IT-kone
    @IT-kone 14 лет назад

    @shanecombs1993 Are they in a double bass kit, or have you found out this seperately testing them in the exact same place as the other? Because room acoustics and drum placement affect THAT much. If you aim a bassdrum to the corner, it will gain tremendous bass boost. Also I read Gavin Harrison found out younger (when he had a double kit), that the left bass drum always sounded better than the right one. It must be how they are angled towards/in comparison with player.

  • @cristianriutort1
    @cristianriutort1 14 лет назад

    He's method is very good and with the right heads even better. I buy a evans eq3 of the kick side only and don't changed the reso side and it sounds a 100 times better. My drum set is a Tama Supertar. I have no clue of how huge is the difference of the sound if you change your heads. Everybody EQ3 or Remo sounds awesome to.

  • @snaredrum941
    @snaredrum941 15 лет назад

    When he put the ring around the Hole I was like Whoa!!!!!! gotta get one... Huge difference

  • @JWMussiicc
    @JWMussiicc 13 лет назад

    This dude is the Bob Ross of drum tuning

  • @L07EK
    @L07EK 13 лет назад

    i could listen to this guy talk forever..

  • @ArtoTheLouis
    @ArtoTheLouis 13 лет назад

    BAGOM!! BAGOM!!! BAGOM!!! like a heartbeat year right

  • @Calibur43
    @Calibur43 11 лет назад

    Thank you for this. Thank you.

  • @CaseyGreen19
    @CaseyGreen19 12 лет назад

    @PercPhreak its actually easier with a coated head because you can push on it and see the wrinkles without even needing the reflections. Just my experience.

  • @djsnowman06
    @djsnowman06 15 лет назад

    i agree i like a loud solid sound plus that setup would get u nearly zero bounce on the pedals

  • @rsmith462
    @rsmith462 12 лет назад

    I get this w/ two bass drum mics. Get yourself a Beta 91A and lay it on the pillow inside your bass drum. Gate it so you're only getting the high pitch click (like snapping your fingers) and then put a very slight delay on it. (You only want to hear the delayed sound, not the initial sound) Then place your primary mic wherever you prefer at the port hole. This will give you a pretty punchy sound without having to toss 50 pillows in there.

  • @keyframer.
    @keyframer. 13 лет назад

    In my experience, the small port ring on the reso would ALWAYS fall out (into the bass drum) after about 2-3 songs - and I am not a hard hitter. Within a couple of gigs, the port ring would actually start to come apart completely.
    Just last night in the middle of a gig, the batter head came apart as well - specifically the plastic retainer ring that held the foam ring in place. The retainer had cracked apart due to the vibration of the head. I have abandoned Evans :(

  • @Smallmo123
    @Smallmo123 16 лет назад

    What a happy fella!

  • @snackeye12
    @snackeye12 13 лет назад

    this is like.... awsome

  • @thedrummergirl2000
    @thedrummergirl2000 14 лет назад

    this really helped alot! thanks!

  • @deanvlogs6829
    @deanvlogs6829 14 лет назад

    this guy is a legend like is he the new shamwow guy?

  • @joemadrum
    @joemadrum 14 лет назад

    lol 2:43 "ohhh haha that sounds good huh" i love this vid my bass drum sounds like a cannon now thanks :DDDD

  • @angryscottishdude
    @angryscottishdude 15 лет назад

    i like to tune it a little tight because i do double bass and it can be hard to hear the drum because if ur playing fast the notes get murky. high tuning gives it more of a punch. i also load it with t shirts. get a hole cut so its easier to mess with the shirts

  • @sorethroatscreamo2116
    @sorethroatscreamo2116 12 лет назад

    TQVM.YOU ARE VERY HELPFUL .remo or evans should i use for it?

  • @secretsofthedeep20k
    @secretsofthedeep20k 14 лет назад

    Great Video.

  • @digitalwavemm
    @digitalwavemm 11 лет назад

    I must admit I play on a lot of sets (backline kits) with the Aquarian SuperKick heads, and really like them as well

  • @thesuccessfulbarber
    @thesuccessfulbarber 9 лет назад

    I like Bob. Definitely a working drummers drummer

  • @AtomSmith
    @AtomSmith 11 лет назад

    Wow, thanks Bob, what a difference to my recordings - having drums that are properly tuned. ho knew? LOL

  • @wilsonautomotive
    @wilsonautomotive 15 лет назад

    If you don't want to do it his way, you can do it my way, which is: tune all the keys with your hands as tight as you can. On a bass drum, That is almost always the easiest way. It gives you his so-called "Lowest possible pitch" As for the resonant head, do the best you can to get it in tune with the batter head. Hope that answers your question.

  • @bondenjostein
    @bondenjostein 13 лет назад

    I use those drumheads. EMAD... I can seriously reccommend it. Best one on the market in my opinion...

  • @fancypants6434
    @fancypants6434 14 лет назад

    if you were playing live would you still keep a muffle pillow in your drum? or would you take it out and tighten the bass drum?

  • @d15er
    @d15er 15 лет назад

    i'm against dampening...but when it comes to playing the ol 70's it calls for it

  • @St0cks_01
    @St0cks_01 15 лет назад

    adding a hole decreases resonance adding more attack. whereas no hole gives the bass more low end boom.
    a pillow basically kills all or most resonance from your bass.
    ofcourse there are different heads that allow you to avoid putting a pillow inside like the emad and the remo powersonic.
    its a matter of choice. i would try them all if you can and see what you like and stick to it.

  • @IT-kone
    @IT-kone 14 лет назад

    @heige17 Depends on what kind of sound you want. Bass drums aren't tuned to note in about any other music than jazz, so they aren't that picky about the freshness of the head. Charlie Watts has never changed his Gretch-kit's bassdrum's heads. Though OFC a new head sounds better than old, and wrong head in wrong music can make living hell, but IMO old head doesn't prevent from using this technique. You just have to tune it tiny bit higher than new one after doing this.

  • @keyframer.
    @keyframer. 13 лет назад

    @Bookster343 I'm playing remo although I do have a few Evans heads on my 2nd kit and they do sound amazing. So I haven't abandoned them completely. I switched to the Remo Powerstroke with the Evans internal pillow with great success.

  • @akhristov
    @akhristov 17 лет назад

    Heck yeah!

  • @MitchuII
    @MitchuII 13 лет назад

    @allmetaliswelcome That's what I'm not clear on. Wrinkle appears, then tune back up til it's gone, or leave a bit of wrinkle? It looks like he left some wrinkle, but I can't be sure.

  • @TheBlackMonster74
    @TheBlackMonster74 14 лет назад

    This really works, I tuned my bass drum like this and it sounds amazing. But when should I go by tuning it again? I dont have any problems with the sound as of yet ( tuned it I (think 2-3 months ago). And when I do shouldI just tune around on the reso head??
    Any help will be appreciated : )

  • @Mission2Transition641
    @Mission2Transition641 15 лет назад

    great video.

  • @_Inferis
    @_Inferis 12 лет назад

    Yeah I agree I started with a really cheap drum kit, even that had tensions rods with handles...