3 Reasons Starlink Internet is NOT for You! | 2 Month Starlink Review
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- We are continuing to run into problems with Starlink Internet while we full time RV. This is my two month Starlink review. Watch to see if you should get Starlink internet or pass.
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i think its expensive
well if your mobile with it thats a different story obv
Hey, THINK about what you are experiencing. You are trying to reason Why related to 'Satellites'. Starlink is NOT satellites. Maybe airplanes or some other Land Hubs, But Definitely NOT satellites.
When Ukraine had No Fly Zones, Musk tried to make it seem like HE cut off Starlink. Not true. It has something to do with airplanes and/or Land Hubs 😉
Really love that you guys have been doing these videos! We've been watching and waiting for stuff to get more consistent with Starlink, but it looks like we'll be waiting a little longer. Thanks, guys!
Thanks! Yeah, it's not a slam dunk right now for a lot of us for sure. Hopefully it will improve quickly....but a lot of it is where you are and where you camp. Thanks for watching, appreciate the comment!😊
Thanks for the update we appreciate you input and yes please continue to keep us updated on your experience with the service
Great reviews!!! Real world experience helps the rest of us so much. To all the knobs that say didn't you read the manual on obstructions they don't understand that obstructions are not well defined. Little branches bother the service? A small clear opening is enough or is wide open desert sky needed? Your real life reviews are invaluable. Keep them coming and thank you.
Thank you for telling what you’re really experiencing with Starlink. It’s helping us make an informed decision.
Subscribed! Always learn something new on your channel! Thanks, J
Very useful overview and experience, thank you. Does Starling RV has time limit for paused service?
Thanks for doing these videos -- I have been watching your reviews and updates pretty closely to see if Starlink might be for us (part-time RVers), so I really appreciate your honest opinion about how it is working for you. I think it is something we'll probably get in the future once the service is more reliable, but it doesn't seem like a good fit for us just yet. Thanks again for keeping us all updated on your experience!!
Thank you for this follow up video. We are up in the mountains of Northern California and we have been using Hughes Net Satellite for internet. It’s very horrible internet! We took the leap and bought the Star-link system and have been using it for about 2 weeks now. I agree with you in that the service is not as great as I had hoped. We have a fairly open area of sky with a few tall trees. I think it’s crazy that our obstructions can be 8 percent and the satellite drops as much as it does 🙄 We are in the process of raising it up on a poke to about 8 ft. We really hope that helps. We have zero cell service here so this really is our only option for fast internet.
We plan on moving about every 3 months so having reliable internet on the road is so important! Let’s see how everything plays out when more Satellites are deployed. Looking forward to your further reviews :)
Reporting in from rural central Oregon. We've had Starlink at our home for about four months and are very happy with it. Out here we don't have a lot of options for internet and our previous service was about the same monthly price, but very limited. We haven't traveled with our Starlink dish yet, so when we do, we'll turn the mobile feature on and off, as needed.
I'm very excited about Starlink. It's still very early and they just don't have enough satellites to give the kind of service we would all like. It will improve over the next couple of years and will be a complete game changer. I appreciate your honest review of the current status which isn't ideal, especially on the east coast.
Thanks Mark!
I W0ULDNT TAKE THIS N0B ADVISE
HE IS UPSET EL0N-MUSK HAVE BIGER-ACC0UNT
It will be a game changer only till fiber and hone internet expands and then they will die with the rest of that satiate bs ......
Thanks! I'm interested and I NEVER want to be the first test case for new stuff....
Love Starlink for RV! Ordered the Starlink for RV a few weeks ago. Arrived just in time for our boondocking at Joe's Valley Reservoir in Utah. Once arriving I set the dish on top of my truck cover. Secured it with bungee chords so it would not blow off with the wind. I have a GoalZero Yeti 1500 so I plugged the router into that. Within 1/2 hr setup I was getting 100mbps and sometimes faster. After all the other relatives arrived, and they found out I had internet everyone wanted to log in with their devices. I had 12 devices logged in, and I could still watch Prime Video and Nexflix with no problem. My Yetti 1500 said it had about 35 hours left of charge while plugged into the router. Since I have solar on my roof I could also charge the Yetti if I needed to, but with 35 hours there was no need. At night I would turn it off and then in the morning turn it back on again. Took about 5 minutes to re-connect, and since Joe's Valley does not have mobile service everyone could still make calls with the Starlink log in. Best decision I have made for my RV !
Excellent review. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
I use it in portability mode as I'm on the road a lot and I don't have any of these problems. It's been just great. I read about all of these people experiencing coverage problems, obstructions, slow speeds, etc. Of course this makes me nervous a bit waiting to see if I encounter any of these problems. None yet and i use it a ton. That's also a Real World experience to know about. thank you for your videos.
Yes, thank you for sharing that! We have heard a lot of people that have had good experiences with it and a lot with bad. Are you out west by chance?
I have it at my home near Quartsite. It works very well most of the time. I even play online games with it. It does get spotty at times usually really early in the mornings.
Thanks for sharing!
Have to say I've been following you guys for quite awhile. Must admit I don't see every vlog real time. But...I end up thinking what are you guys up to and boom I binge watch you to catch up. Always glad I do. Can't believe you are not up to 100k subs. Much ❤️
Thank you for your kind words!😊
Thank you for the honest review. I will wait on this.
Got my Starlink for RV yesterday. I put it out in the backyard (here in Orlando which is still listed as a waitlist area) and within 30 min or so I was getting 130 down/15 up speeds. I left it out there most of the day and it seemed to work fine. My yard has partial tree obstructions, especially a large tree in the north end. East sky is pretty clear. Most of our use will be here in Florida so I expect we'll be seeing lots of frustrating antenna spot hunting. I knew this going in so if this turns out to be mostly a useless endeavor then that's on me. We run into the same problem placing our tv sat dish antenna. Of course those satellites don't move and once you find a good spot you are fine until you have to move. There's no magic bullets here yet. Cell coverage is generally good, but not in all places we go. We do a lot of beach camping and most of those sites have little tree obstructions. I'm also curious why your experience in the Keys was so bad.
finishing a trip to Alaska. no service north been trying it every stop. middle of Alberta seems as far as we could connect. nothing in Alaska said no service offered here yet.
I am a truck driver and have STARLINK, I will be on the upper East Coast in the next few days.
Thanks for Starlink the info and reception updates. Will be watching closely now that service has opened up in my area. I've noticed the carrier services making home 4G/5G service prices more competitive as the starlink rollout progresses. SL service may end up being the premium tier and 4/5G home services the more affordable option..
I going to try it, I live in the southwest and about half the time, there is no trees. I think I get a flag pole setup too.
In your terms of east coast coverage is t more of a population density and capacity issue than not covering the east coast adequately? Love the vids. Sub’d
We tried order it, but website shows isn't available for Southern Alabama
I'm watching from Mexico. I live in a quite rural small town in Mexico and my current and only ISP only offers me up to 10 Mbps which is enough for videos and simple things. However working from home demands faster speeds so I'm kinda considering starlink even though it cost an arm and a leg 😿😿 very informative video and loved you honest thoughts about it. Thanks.
Just ordered for use mainly on West Coast (the RV plan). Cell service is pretty brutal here outside of the major city centers, so am hoping this will let me keep working even when out at campgrounds or on BLM land. Have been researching sites and booking spots without many trees (or so I hope).
I just got starlink, im outside of philly on the NJ side about 5 miles away from the airport. I have no issues at my house. I took it a few places and it seems to work well but I agree, the issue with obstructions is bad. The dish really needs a clear view of the sky to the north/ north west. I currently have it connect to my unifi UDM pro as a backup connection to my comcast internet. The UDM pro will automatically failover to starlink when comcast goes down.
Purchased SL before our trip out West this summer, Dallas/Fort Worth, Santa Fe, Sedona - it worked very well. Latency was impressive.
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We only got ours a week tomorrow. Seems like ours works for a day then my has to move it again. We have Trees! Northern California.
I have had SL for a couple months now, specifically in North Myrtle Beach and Myrtle Beach SC, we will be hitting the road FT at the end of this month heading to Wisconsin, then NOLA, then CO, it has worked flawlessly so far, at the moment my unit is at my TT hooked up and running, so I can monitor my Victron on my phone from home, we took it to Lakewoods for the Grand Design Rally, there too it worked flawlessly with 150mbps or better speeds, BUT full unobstructed views. I will see as we move around, my expectation is we will use out Hotspot from the Calyx Institute (Tmobile) quite a bit East of the Mississippi, but then West we will probably use SL due to poor cell coverage and more open skies.
For me, I'm curious to know if it will work in a remote area...say...out in the desert where no one gets any kind of service.
for real heavy work with obstacles you need to pair SL & LTE with bonding VPN like Speedify
I ended up getting Starlink RV just a week ago as my home internet. I'm in central Wisconsin with lots of trees, but a clear view of the sky at my location, and so far it's been great. My only other options were CenturyLink DSL (which is pretty slow plus I don't have a phone line run to our building anyway), or Verizon mobile which is ok, but not great at our location. So far Starlink has been a godsend. Finally getting stuff online done.
Thank you. I wanted to know if this can be use for home internet
I don’t know if it’s worth it right now. Sounds like some bugs need to be worked out. Great video guys!
Just got our Starlink RV 2 days ago. We take off in 3 days for a coast to coast 6000 mile trip so I'm looking forward to putting it through its paces.
Nice! Sounds like a great trip planned, have fun!
I’m actually very surprised that you got any signal at all with all of those trees above you considering that they state that you wont be able to get anything.
I’m very impressed
we camp about 100 nights a year and typically look for shady spots (to help the a/c)
i'm seriously considering StarLink. this is an excellent review
i think i'll wait
i'm 60 miles nw of vancouver BC, i have about 40% clear sky with trees all around and i'm on the side of mt. elphinestone, i was doubtful. i had 4 providers survey my site and all said no but one gave me a dish location that would't work for me. i did use the park guest (20%) wifi and shared with 15 others, it went down some times so i got a gen 3 shipped and i have used it for 4 months and not used the parks net since. slight pause on late night movies, may be 3 seconds but for me not an issue as i now have router administration for all my wifi toys, i give it a 9 out of 10. thanks for the vid and it can only get better.
We live in the middle of nowhere in Tennessee and it works great for us.
Could there also be a difference between RV and the fixed system? Even though you are registering your address..
Just ordered StarLink for RV today. When I look at the map of availability it appears it is really meant for west of the Mississippi river. At least for now. I am going to White Mountains, AZ then off to the Wind River range of Wyoming. I can let you know how it goes.
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A Pepwave router can connect to their cloud service. When you are doing something critical like a zoom call, you can configure it to "mirror" the data across two connections, so if one drops out it doesn't affect your call. For less mission critical data, you can configure it to hot switch between the two connections - but this comes with a few seconds of lag during the fail over.
Good to know, thanks Paul! Sounds like that would be good for the Zoom calls for sure.
@@IreneIronTravels I believe I already mentioned them, but make sure to check out the "Mobile Internet Resource Center". They have lots of great information about the best hardware to get, as well as how it all works. Best of luck!
Thanks! 🙏
Good video 😀 it could take a year to getting star link fully working correctly it's a massive system that is half the fun to see if you can make it work better how is my dog 🐕 😀
😊Very true! Louie is doing good!!
I appreciate the videos... what kind of business do u run. Me and my wife are wanting to do what u do travel.
Thanks for watching. We have an online nutrition and fitness coaching business. Irene Iron Fitness...which is were this channels name comes from.... Irene Iron Travels and that is our second business. We are just finishing year 4 of Fulltime travel in an RV and running these two businesses. I can say it is a great lifestyle and good luck to you starting your journey ! 👍
Do you think not having portability yet is a factor?
Those speed tests you show are a lot better than any speed test I've done using Nomad Internet. I'm looking to ditch Nomad.
Good content and an honest review. I'd say that the price is fairly expensive and it's probably not a great value for at least 2-3 more years. Most likely the value would be out in the Western States where cell towers are sparsely located and less obstructions. My 2 cents
Thanks! I think a lot of people agree with you!
2 - 3 years is an eternity in space x time, they’re moving pretty quickly! Were seeing rockets heading out like cruise ships here in fl.
I live in a rural area of the east with no Internet options other than satellite and very poor cell service and I waited for Starlink for 11 months but it was worth the wait and the money because now we can work from home or homeschool if we choose. It has been a game changer for us and many people outside the metro areas. If you have good internet available over fiber-optic then Starlink might not be your best value but for a lot of people it's our only option
Absolutely perfect service in central Iowa. Rock solid 175 download 15 upload. Interesting fact. It finds Sats here that are nearly overhead. It seems to fine tune itself. After 24 hrs of continuous service, it gets stronger and faster.
I'm not going to be negative at all but I am going to be critical as I have been using Starlink a lot longer than most as a beta. Just like ANY type of receiver, obstruction is reduced by elevating. You are using only the stand. If you want better performance in rustic camping locations, you need to elevate it. Up out of trees is ideal, but even if you can improve its view. Simple analogy - the closer to the end of a tunnel, the better the view. We camp in a mix of site styles, but mostly rustic. I put together my own mast system using telescoping fiberglass pole (re-purposed professional power washer 2-story pole). I have made a ladder mount for our 5th wheel and also re-purposed our old Dish tripod to hold the pole remote from the coach and added the ability to tie it by guys if it needs to be a full 19 feet extended and we're in a windy spot. There are similar commercialized solutions available now versus my home grown. We have seen those all over in the past 2.5 months of travel. Anyway, because I work mobile, it's critical for me to be connected, and I do have hotspot backup. However, I have been able to use Starlink much more successfully than you are encountering where service is available. As the mesh densifies, obstruction issues will reduce for a narrow sight line, but it definitely won't be able to see through trees and solids like radio waves. Try elevating into the clear views.
You are running the Starlink on the ground, try the zoom call again using the Sattelite mounted to at least a 15’ to 20’ flag pole then let us know the results.
Sorry some people are snarky and think you are using click bait. I really appreciate your reviews because they are real life and honest. All I ever hear about it how great Starlink is or the great speeds. You are showing real life usage and what some obstacles are. Thanks for the great content.
Appreciate that, thank you 😊
Finally…someone who’s credible and honest! Thx
Thanks. 😊 Yeah, just sharing how its working for us... and its not quite the be all end all solution for our needs, but it is a nice backup to have.
Im just here to say the audio is exceptionally good
Love my Verizon hot spot. Spent January to March working from the road and it never disappointed. Lots of WebEx and upload and downloading of files and emails (>200/day). One month I exceeded max on unlimited but only for a few days and limped by with tethering my AT&T iPhone. Starting doesn’t seem like it’s ready for prime time - soon maybe but not now.
I hear ya! We've used our unlimited Verizon hotspot for 3 years all across the country and its worked really good. We looked at Starlink to bring us faster speeds and also new spots to RV.... we'll see how it works out 🤷🏼♂️
Having problems stowing my poll down for the return of my Starlink it does not connect to the router can someone help with this I need to send it back but won't fit in the box do to the poll
Older video but ir love to get 100mg download. I'm currently paying $105-130 a month (depending on overages) for att 6mg dsl just to watch TV lol. Direct and dish were both garbage so went with dsl and streamed everything. Guess I need to check availability in Kentucky
Here are the 3 reasons Starlink IS for me:
1) I have a cabin in the North Maine Woods
2) The closest place I can get a cell signal is an 8 mile boat ride and another hour and fifteen minute car ride.
3) I get amazingly fast wifi at my cabin with Starlink and can even do Zoom appointments for work there now because of it.
Hey, so that’s what my question is about… I bought my homestead in a place with no cell service, no nothin. I suppose I’ll still be able to access the app to do the setup when I’m there and have no reception of any kind until I set the starlink up? Also, how far does the Wi-Fi reach? Hoping it can make it to my shop/barn about 100 mostly unobstructed yards away from the house?
I just got my confirmation email today so my starlink is on its way, I’m so excited to have internet up there!! Thanks for any answers you have, there’s no way to call starlink and ask questions..
Hello Chris and Aaron! As always, thank you very much for sharing your experience with this setup. Ughhhh….definitely a product that is not without limitations. Ha..I know I told you two that I would never pick our boondocking spot based on connectivity. But….we just returned from our first trip that my wife came with and we had cell connection! (I will send you that info in the event you ever want to explore that monument).
Knowing that you two rely on connectivity for your work, I just want this stuff to work for you!
Safe travels!
Luv luv my SL!!!
Is there any difference in hardware and operation between the RV and home service or is it entirely pricing? It seemed like you were implying that there isn't but then mentioned something about slower speeds for the RV service so I wasn't sure. Thanks for doing this videos on this topic. It is good to hear everyone's experiences.
No difference in equipment. Only difference is the plan and extra cost for roaming charge. Otherwise you have to update your location ech time you move and might not get service
Yup, no difference in hardware, but Starlink gives priority service to those with the residential plan and are in their service area. So if I’m able to move my address each time we move sites than theoretically I could get faster speeds.
@@IreneIronTravels to get priority you can't move service address and also has to be same as billing address
THANK YOU!!!!!
Have you had any luck with the obstruction app? We’ve been very fortunate to have clear skies at each location we have used. Good luck
Yes, that camera app Starlink has is pretty accurate for sure! Each location I do use it, but when there is only a small window of clear sky it doesn’t help much. For example in this location at Skidaway park in GA I used the app and every location said to pick a better location.🤣 but it did find signal in the third spot I put it, but the app didn’t indicate that. I just had to move it Around to try and get a view around the trees.
@@IreneIronTravels guess it just does better out west for now. Once they get all the satellites up it should be good everywhere. Thanks for the great content
What is the power draw and is it DC or AC? : .... Also, testing during times of heavy cloud cover and bad weather (storms) I wonder if this effects connectivity and performance. So far this sounds like a ... there must be a saying... red herring. Way too expensive too....
You can setup a pfsense firewall in router mode (if you want to use cheaper hardware or don't want a firewall) and easily setup dual wan (internet connections) with redundancy or split if you want to ease data used between the two.
You could build this setup for about $250 possibly less. Or you can much less if turning on router mode as it takes far less processing power.
Given that you're in a camper, You could use pfsense to set up a captive portal and possibly make some money by charging people to use your internet.
Do you get upset at a new paddle board purchase while staying in the desert? Starlink out up in Washington is workin great. I'm on the RV version.
If I use it every 6 months RV and save it, would I have problems with the updates? They say it may be obsolete
Good thing West has the coverage and the lack of obstacles
Picked up Starlink in partial service area in the mid-west, some tall trees around the house can't do anything about. When it's really running it's way faster than my regular internet, when it's spotty it can drop even lower than my complete shit internet. Paying up the butt for both services to let Starlink get better over time, def not perfect but my first few weeks have been alright so far.
We are in Northern California and use it on property in our RV with no issues. We've had it since January. I work full-time from the RV with video and voice calls. So far so good.
Where in norther. California
@@protectork9831 near MT Lassen
I returned mine last week
I just ordered the starlink rv a couple days ago. I'm in my second week of full time rv life and I'm taking an online class with the hopes of switching careers to something I can do from the road. I've been on the fence about starlink with the thought that I'd probably get it eventually once I started working from the road. While I'm just taking the class I wanted to make a go of it with my phone as a hot spot through Visible (verizon towers) and a hot spot device with AT&T. However now I'm in a beautiful location (with no obstructions) that I plan to stay at for a week but with both my services internet is spotty at best. Actually the Verizon doesn't work at all. In fact while I was watching your video it froze and I had to reboot my AT&T hot spot for probably the 10th time today. My biggest hang up with the starlink was price, then I realized that $599 is less than I paid for my netgear 5g hot spot, which isn't working too great for me, and way less than the 2 Sim pepwave router I had at one time considered getting. Not being able to work on my class and realizing I already spent more than if I had just gotten starlink to begin with put me over the edge to just go ahead and order it. I might cancel the AT&T and keep the Visible (Verizon) on my phone as backup.
Edited to add: last week when I was camping inside Grand Teton National Park my Visible (Verizon) service through my phone was working great. With Visible you get truly unlimited Hotspot data, it's just always throttled to 5mbps. Or so they say. I was actually getting 10mbps. But even when it is down to 5 I can still stream TV on netflix/amazon/RUclips and take my class which involves PowerPoint presentations. I haven't tried it but I've seen people say they can even do zoom calls. Everybody goes on about higher speeds but I think, for the most part, we really don't need as much as we think we do.
Since Visible only allows 1 device at a time, do you have a recommendation for the best handset for someone who is going to mainly use it as a hotspot?
@@marcusjs2856 I'm not sure what you mean by "handset". When I signed up for visible they said my phone wasn't compatible, so I just bought the cheapest phone they offered to use it as a hot spot. I believe it was $50. Then once I received it I tried putting the chip in my phone and it worked fine. So I just used it with the phone I already had.
I have a cabin in mid Michigan (Roscommon County) and we've had Starlink for about 5 months and every 45 seconds we get a 3 to 10 second interruption, sometimes longer. We have one oak tree in front that has minimal blockage when we do the star link sky mapping. I knew there would be a chance we would have some interruption but I didn't realize it would be so much. About a 95% clear skyview was hoping for more but they definitely need more satellites to be useful to a lot of us. Yes I know Starlink states legal "stuff" about sky blockage but had to find out on my own.
Wow, thank you for sharing that. I think this really is what some of us are running Into, even with minimal obstructions!
We got our about the same time that you did and we are having about the same results. We use our hotspots and phones as a back up when the Starlink is being goofy. Great video!
Thanks! Yes, I spotted your dish right away🤣 as we walked around fiesta the first time. I’m starting to see a couple Starlinks at every place we go!
I'm really tempted on starlink, I'm rural iowa and options for internet is crap
I was really excited about starlink becoming avaible. MY wife and I will not get the service because it is too expensive. We love to camp in wooded areas and trees will block the signal and starlink won't work.
I hear ya...a bit frustrating for sure!
If you change to RV version of starlink it will be more reliable when you change location.
Hows its working now on the east coast?
It has worked at about 20-30% of the places we've camped since April. East Coast and Midwest. I have a 4 month update here ruclips.net/video/FZbEiBxphsE/видео.html
All well put. I like how you're reviewing Starlink. Now if only you could work in some more Louie content with the Starlink reviews... I myself am gearing up for going part time nomadic. Being that I'm an IT pro I need to go a bit overboard on my choices for coverage and I will be spending some considerable money month to month to support that. In short, if I can't get coverage then I can't work from the road at all. Like you said, it's the cost of business.
So on to my point. I don't know your workflow or what you're willing to spend but it sounds to me like keeping Starlink and augmenting your Verizon service may be good for you. And good news, kind of. This week, Starlink announced that they soon will allow residential subscribers to convert to the RV tier. The caveats are that you cannot convert back and the RV tier is deprioritized. But as you pointed out, you can pause service at any time. So as for the peplink hardware, that is something to consider if you need as seamless as possible coverage and without having to fiddle around much with it after your first configuration. I already made some really long comments mentioning that you can blend various services using those devices, including Starlink. In short, the more services that you can throw at one of their devices the better service you get overall. There's some channels on RUclips that specialize in talking to all of that and they've had a lot more hands on experience with them on the road than I.
All that said, if you're comfortable with manually turning off Starlink when it's not doing the job and firing up Verizon via your hotspot in it's place then stick with that. The peplink just makes things much easier and more seamless by handling the bonding of or changing between services for you. Especially helpful if you want or need to use more than one brand of cellular service. No need to carry multiple hotspots or to manually swap out sims. You may want to seriously consider spending about $200-$300 on a better omnidirectional roof mount MIMO antenna for your current hotspot, though. There's plenty of good no-drill options. They are a night and day difference from that portable MIMO Netgear you have now. That's similar to all I'm using now for my trailer, a roof mount MIMO with a mobile Netgear Nighthawk and I just swap out sims [Tmo, AT&T] depending where I am. That will have to do until I get a peplink of my own soon. I had to give up the test unit I had for a few weeks and took on the road briefly. I have to say it is amazing for its abilities compared to what I've worked on and fiddled with over the years. Any network nerds looking for a mobile device that is ridiculously redundant and that's highly configurable for nearly any scenario you can think of, consider them. I don't like sounding like a shill but, they work and cut down on clutter.
So it sounds like you're already doing a bit of a cost analysis. Have you considered making projections? What I mean is estimate over say a year how much you will use Starlink, where and when you will pause it [assuming you go to the RV tier] and how much that will cost over that period, combine in your equipment costs for the year and your month to month cell service costs and basically look at an ROI for that period of time. That antenna upgrade I mentioned is a small up-front that can possibly net you more income, for example. Maybe you'll find room for even fancier kit like the peplink. The benefits it can provide might save time or you may determine it's not worth it at this time. These are the sorts of studies I need to do whenever I start pitching whatever network configs to my bosses and customers.
Anyway, like I said, I'll have my own peplink kit soon and some part time use of a Starlink kit on the RV tier. I plan to use them both together so if you're interested, hit me up. I should have something worthwhile to report in a few months.
Sounds good, thanks for the time into these comments. And more Louie yes! Our new RV did come with a roof mounted Winegaurd 360+ that has a MIMO in it. I tried taping into it with our hotspot, but I had to use some adapters and extensions from ts9 to MCX on the antenna... It didnt seem to get any better than my window mount...but I need to re look at it. Keep me informed on your Starlink journey!
@@IreneIronTravels A few pointers on the Winegard hack, if I may? I'll try to be brief. That antenna is meant to be used in conjunction with their gateway and in both of their configs the gateway is directly connected to the antenna. That said, I would avoid using extensions and use as few adapters as possible. I don't think you should need any adapters if you directly connect your Verizon hotspot. I'm pretty sure yours uses TS9 connectors. When I tried the Winegard I plugged it's TS9's directly into my router and temporarily mounted it on the ceiling. Something to be aware of is there are 3 TS9's, red, yellow and green. The red one is for wifi, green and yellow are MIMO. A little janky but it did the job. You may also want to try swapping the green and yellow connectors around on the hotspot as antenna phasing matters. Something to keep in mind with adapters is they typically account for ~1db of signal loss for each one used. Extensions can be ~3db or more depending on many factors. So with a couple of adapters and extensions in the mix it's possible and likely to cancel out any signal gain from the antenna. This all applies to any cellular antenna.
The only specs I could find on the Winegard is that it does cover AT&T and Verizon LTE bands so band coverage should be good in general. There's no mention of B71 or other low freq. bands but it seemed to work for me. Also, I don't see any gain specs but in my testing it acted like a ~3db gain antenna, maybe a little higher. So it's seemingly at least on par with the Netgear directional we both have. Here's specs for the Netgear: • Up to 2.5 dB gain • Frequency Bands 700-906/1710-1990/2110-2170/2500-2700 MHz. The only benefit for you or I to do the Winegard hack vs. the Netgear directional would be to get a decent unidirectional MIMO antenna up in the air with some ground plane under it and that helps considerably. I did throw that one out there for anyone who already has it and who wants to play around with an external antenna before buying one. For me here in the West it worked better than the Netgear with the caveat that I had to have my little router hanging from my ceiling. If you want to have a nice and tidy installation with external antenna(s) then I would look to some rooftop externals from the likes of Waveform, MobileMark and Parsec to name a few. Those all come with higher quality low-loss coax than most extensions and you should only need an SMA to TS9 adapter for each antenna phase (each mimo lead is a "phase") on your Verizon hotspot, keeping the loss to a minimum. I'm trying a Parsec myself. The MobileMarks look to have the most versatile offerings with most bang for the buck regarding mount types and all-in-one device antenna combinations. Hope that helps!
When you switch to an RV plan for $135/mo you CANNOT switch back to the home plan for $110/mo. It's still unclear on the limitations to turning the RV service on and off. Does it have to be turned off starting the 1st of the month until the 31st? Or is it my billing cycle day for ON/OFF pausing? Must it be shut off in full month periods? How does that work?
Yes some questions to be answered! I take it as you can turn on at anytime and then you are billed the monthly period even if only used one day. If you turn it off within the billing cycle, you still get billed until the end of your monthly cycle.
I think you do honest reviews about how it performs for you. I'm excited about Starlink, I have it at home and it is amazing. I have no obstructions and knew going in that Starlink is very much a beta at this point, more satellites are needed and more are going up each launch. About that initial cost, established satellite companies wanted over 900 for equipment and fees, then each month they wanted rental fees on the equipment for 5 down and 1-3 up. They also had tons of legal jargon about outages etc. So in my book Starlink is the way to go moving forward.
Glad to hear its working out for you! It is pretty amazing technology and we are looking forward to it improving for travelers in the future!😊
I just got mine and am returning it same day. The spotty covered with trees is a no go for me.
Bummer!
Couldn’t agree with you more! Ignore the haters!
How about t-Mobile 5g home internet
The interwebs. Always quick with the snarky comments 🤣.
Do clouds matter or only trees?
I think the clouds may cause it to slow a tad..but I haven't seen dropped service from it. I've heard big storms are worse...but haven't experienced one yet...
So I was wondering if you're within a wait-list zone when using the rv satellite internet at home and the skies are well open, will I be able to get food speeds? The service is available about 15 miles away from me
It's really hard to say without actually trying it. From what I see and hear...speeds are all over the place with so many variables. My guess would be if you are roaming you can expect around 5mbps and if you are able to move your service address to your area it could be higher. Anywhere from 20mbps- 80mbps plus.
@@IreneIronTravels yeah it's really difficult to give it a shot but my internet is jus awful at the moment and I keep getting the run around with my isp. I feel like the rv could possibly give me the same issues tho
Having lived with Verizon out west and traveling the interstates is like 1990's dialup modems. 2 to 3 mbps. And there has been a shutdown of the 3G. So you may not see any service with Verizon West of the Ohio and North of St Louis.
Make sure you travel with an atlas.
Georgia and Florida are not a covered areas for the most part with Starlink. Surprised it worked at all. Those states are not online until 2023.
so youre saying starlink package should have come shipped with a chainsaw?
My problem with Starlink is the monthly subscription. Here in Spain the hardware is being offered at €199 and the monthly fee €65. So I spend €199 on the hardware, great, but will I still be paying €65 in 6 months or a year from now or will the price have shot up? Their pricing structure changes dramatically and far too often for my liking. Having experienced pellet burner pellets more than double in the past 2 years, I now regret buying a pellet burner and I fear Starlink prices are going to do the same.
I’ve decided to go with Peplink MAX BR1 Pro 5G instead of starlink for now!!
I think starlink isn’t fully compatible with an RV setup yet
I would love for starlink to come up with a version that is permanently mountable to the roof of an RV instead
And rumor has it starlink is working on such a setup🤞🤞
Yes, lots of potential, but just doesn't seem like it's a perfect fit for us. I think I need a peplink😊
@@IreneIronTravels Starlink + a pepwave with speedfusion is a great setup. I just did a video on my setup yesterday…. How it works on the road remains to be seen for me but i am very optimistic. ruclips.net/video/tNyGTsMuDLE/видео.html
Pepwave won't do you any good with no cell service. That's where starlink comes in as long as you have a clear view of the sky. I have a cell booster that helps but still have areas we stay in that has no cell service to boost. I'm on the edge of pulling the trigger on a starlink. We have pepwaves at work as a secondary backup. Again they are ok if you have enough cell service.
@@earlzeis35 You can and probably will still have outages with Starlink even if you have a 100% clear view of the sky. A co worker of mine has it at his house in rural Oklahoma, not a tree for miles and there are times every day where he has no signal because there are no satellites passing overhead to service his dish. Happens to him multiple times a day.
Apps like MS Teams and Zoom do not at all do well with service disruptions like that so if those are a part of your daily work like they are for me Starlink as a standalone may not be enough. I have my starlink connected to a pepwave and have the Starlink and a cell bonded with speedfusion. Its working awesome and i have an absolutely rock solid connection for zoom calls and my other work.
It will get better as they launch more and more satellites but as it sits Starlink unfortunately is not 100% uptime.
@@TDub_ADV interment starlink would be much better than a total all the time dead zone. Starlink has a long way to go to be complete, but will be one day. I need to solve dead zones issues. Starlink is the only option I know of. Otherwise I hotspot or hotspot from a booster and I'm good.
It won’t work for us, we typically camp in wooded areas. I have been reading about an antenna/router product called Insty Connect, the inventor demonstrates that he is able to get great speeds in remote, wooded and congested areas.
Hi Chris n Arron What'Sup Guys!!!
👋 hey there 😊
Just got it and I am on the east coast. It will go from 0. something MBPS to 12 to 50 to 100 and as much as 286. It just goes up and down. I don't think there are the right amount of satelites yet. I think it will be great when it gets there. I have been fighting for internet in my rural area for 20 years. Most people don't understand what it's like to fight this battle.
Fairly unlikely someone is going to have the user’s manual before they have one. Thank you very much for telling us about your experiences Aaron! It’s been very helpful to me.
I certainly didn't read it before buying! Thanks Carman!😊
your welcome
They now have "Starlink for RV's" package now! You don't need a hard address now.
I really believe that you should try that one on clip 9:35 and pause to read = look t up on RUclips about it. >>> That being said, you should try it with T-Mobile 5 G internet = $50 a month. When I mentioned that clip to read and find out on the RUclips about it, That type of hook up can involve with the cellular towers is why it's better than Starlink.
@@ronk4474 Here's the video on RUclips to understand, then That's why I prefer T-Mobile internet along with it. ruclips.net/video/SueXonz60c8/видео.html
We are in Fond du Lac, Wisconsin and have the portability option with Starlink. Our upload and download speeds are .01 mbps which makes 1980s dial up modems look fantastic. It’s so slow it can’t even connect to anything and can’t even check emails. And, of course, you can’t even do a speed rest. And we have clear wide-open skies with zero obstructions. Very sad. Thank goodness we have one bar of Verizon access (not LTE) which is far superior.
Oh wow....not good! Thanks for sharing your SL speeds and location!
Thanks for the great info
Trolls and snarks are boring
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching!😊
Two factors affect usable connectivity connectivity. One is geometry. Nearly all of the initial waves of satellites are in the 53° have an orbital inclination of 53°. So the density of satellites above your horizon is greatest at 53° north latitude and 53° south latitude and lowest over a horizon at the equator. This was reflected in the initial Starlink USA rollout where norther cells were activated before southern cells. The second is geography. Apart from a strip up against the Pacific Ocean, where LA, SF, and Seattle sit, the population density in the West is a lot lower than in the east. So subscriptions are made available to balance demand and capacity. As more satellites enter the constellation, availability will increase and more subscribers can enroll. Areas with high population density will have fewer per capita enrollment opportunities than sparsely populated areas.
As the number of satellites in the constellation increases, the statistical fluctuation in the number of satellites in your horizon will decline or even out, if you will