I have watched the first episode, and now beginning the second. I have got to say I love mostly all of Motor Trend's videos but I am REALLY loving that its 33 minutes long. Way to go MT for listening to what us viewers wanted. A++
The prize is glory in Diesel Power Magazine, trophies, and an experience they'll never forget. Plus, most of these guys would figure out how to break their trucks anyways, without our help. Jason Sands, Associate Editor of Diesel Power
From the factory, modern diesels don't smoke, but these are highly modified trucks running very large injectors, which unfortunately means lots of low end smoke. Once the turbo is up on boost the smoke should clean up somewhat, although you don't really lose any power from overfueling the truck, which is why most of the competitors just throw everything they can at it. Jason Sands, Associate Editor of Diesel Power
If you check out Banean Woosley's 10.80-second quarter mile pass, you can see he's using just about all of his fuel on that run. Part of the reason why there's so much smoke, is that most of these trucks are tuned for sea level, but our challenge is held at a 6,000ft elevation, which means their tune is off a bit. Jason Sands, Associate Editor of Diesel Power
"CDL style obstacle" - For the CDL test you also have to parallel park a trailer. There is only enough room for the trailer between the cones so you need to jackknife the trailer in there.
This year was very tough on parts, for sure, but that's what you get when you try and push the limits of your vehicle. With all the gung-ho driving this year, a level headed approach can sometimes be the key. If you've noticed that Wesley Beech won all three events on Day Two by being consistent and not breaking, you wouldn't be alone... Jason Sands, Associate Editor of Diesel Power
Erik shattered his u-joint in the trailer tow, and the team threw a spare driveshaft in for the drag race. Unfortunately the front axle was probably already stressed from the failure, and the entire front part of the housing where the pinion is located sheared off the first time he tried to perform a launch at the dragstrip. Jason Sands, Associate Editor of Diesel Power
the best part of this is that most people watching this don't know that this competition has been going on for around 9 years and isn't put on by motor trend at all and was actually done in may. Oh and this year was pretty bad compared to 2 years ago. The last 2 years everyone has just been breaking everything and that just gets old.
that 7.3 is a freaking BEAST man. He may not have finished that quarter but that kind of power from a truck that's almost 15 years old. That's the oldest engine design out there. If I am not mistake its the only one with 2 valves per cylinder. Hate them or not the aftermarket tech is catching up with 7.3s and making them fun to watch compete.
The old 7.3 Powestroke is a durable engine. People need to remember that they are a slow speed work horse. Look at what dominates the truck pulls though....... Dmax and Cummins. Powerstrokes won't hang
Man that's a lot of weight to be pulling off of a dead stop, when that much torque meets that much traction fighting against that much weight... transmissions, U-joints, and diffs are going to be hurting, big time! And I love it!
Part of the competition is being able to keep the truck together. 1500 horsepower isn't very useful if you can't keep it together, and that's the exact point. Well rounded trucks at moderate power levels have won the competition the last few years now, as the way it should be.
These announcers/hosts/presenters or whatever you call em are best I've heard in while, they give accurate information, speak clearly so you can understand and there isn't any long annoying pauses where announcers sometimes sound confused and don't know what's going on, those ones make it really boring to watch anything, may as well put it on mute. I've been watch some European race events recently and the announcers/hosts/presenters or whatever you call em there are absolutely terrible
I couldn't agree with you more, but I do note that the compression ratio of these engines is likely lower so they can run more boost, and that most of these tunes are setup for the use of either water&methanol, nitrogen dioxide injection or both, hence not quite the same as a power tune in a street truck.
I'm not really that into big diesel trucks at all but this is presented with just enough class and less over-the-top-macho-bullshit that it's actually enjoyable to watch. Good job
Trucks with that power barely keep together on the strip empty, I cant believe these guys entered the event. Drag racing pulling a 5ton load you know something is gunna give. Whoa!! Thats expensive!!!
It was entertaining. they made it sound a bit more important and extreme than it actually was but it was interesting to watch. till the drag. at which point i was just waiting to see if any were gonna catch fire
I'm surprised that at least one of these trucks wasn't a manual trans. All the big rigs are manuals. Anyways, I'm a Ford guy myself but ALL of these trucks are awesome and even though I lean towards Ford's *IMO* the best truck would be a Ford Super Duty with a Cummins engine. All of these guys should be proud of their trucks!
That was awesome Cummins and the Powerstorkes were neck and neck Powerstrokes got out way quicker then Cummins which sucked but trucks break down all the time you will have that.
First of all, these trucks have straight pipes from the turbos to wherever they exit. Secondly theres only two reasons a diesel will smoke. One is that theres not enough air for the fuel to burn correctly(the reason in this video) the second would be because the injectors are damaged. European engines are small displacement with high air intakes, and probably have 10 catalytic converters, urea fountains and a little man in your exhaust sprinkling pixie dust to make the soot disappear.
I was referring to the simple idling about and the trailer cross. I have a diesel and it only smokes under load, not simply puttering about, even when I put power tunes in it. I call these drivability fails. Only the 6.4l Fords seemed to be tuned for drivability.
6.4 is an absolute beast of an engine, put the same amount of cash into a dodge or chevy and still wont even come close to the power of a tuned 6.4 with only a dpf delete and spartan tuner.
A lot of semi tractors have it rigged up to where you do not need to use the clutch to shift from gear to gear. You only need the clutch to put in in first when at a dead stop.
It's also worth noting that diesel has a higher thermal mass than air, so by tuning to be placing extra unburnt fuel in the exhaust rather than unburnt oxidizer (be it nos or oxygen from the air) you cool the engine better, improving the density of the mixture at a given cylinder pressure and keeping the turbos cooler than if you ran with an ideal mixture. It does kill your fuel economy and emissions standards so probably not the best idea for a daily driver however.
The black smoke is just unburnt fuel. The turbo is the power forcing massive amounts of atmosphere 50+psi allowing the engine to make massive amounts of power.
Mostly suspension lift increases either the amount of suspension travel or the tyre size. A larger tyre gives the truck a bigger footprint on the ground, hence a lower pacific ground pressure so you don't sink as much on soft ground. However if you fit larger tyres on a lift you may have to lower the bump stops so that they do not hit the guards, so you do not gain as much travel. Increasing the travel allows the vehicle to handle bigger objects with all tyres on the ground, hence more grip.
Lifting a vehicle also increases the front, rear and ramp-over angles so you can handle bigger objects without hitting the body or drive-train. However lifting a vehicle increases the height of its center of mass, so it handles less side slope and horizontal dynamic forces before rolling over. It also affect drive-line and steering angles so on the whole it is not recommended for road use, manufactures normally chose the vehicle height for a good reason after-all. So don't do it for looks.
a dually doesnt have a bigger tire contact patch. remember guys, traction force is equal to uN where u is coefficient of friction(how soft the tire is) and N is the normal force or weight on the tire. with a dualy the weight is spread across 6 tires not 4 so each tire is producing less traction but everything being equal the same amount of traction a non dually has.
You know, seeing the transmission failures, I'm wondering if these guys put a lot of time into their motor, but simply didn't think too much about upgrading their transmissions to handle all that flippin' torque!
Clutchless shifting is no rig good sir, its all in the skill of the operator and the knowledge of his machine. Newer (regular) manuals don't last too long under a clutchless shifting environment as it wears the syncros really fast. Motorbike transmissions are far better at clutchless shifting for the unexperienced.
This is honestly one of the most entertaining sporting events I have ever seen! I cant wait for the next installment!
I was deployed during the last DPC, so I'm loving getting to watch the competition unfold this year. Great job Motor Trend and Diesel Power Magazine
I have watched the first episode, and now beginning the second. I have got to say I love mostly all of Motor Trend's videos but I am REALLY loving that its 33 minutes long. Way to go MT for listening to what us viewers wanted. A++
The prize is glory in Diesel Power Magazine, trophies, and an experience they'll never forget. Plus, most of these guys would figure out how to break their trucks anyways, without our help.
Jason Sands, Associate Editor of Diesel Power
This is the most creative competition I've ever seen - well done!
From the factory, modern diesels don't smoke, but these are highly modified trucks running very large injectors, which unfortunately means lots of low end smoke. Once the turbo is up on boost the smoke should clean up somewhat, although you don't really lose any power from overfueling the truck, which is why most of the competitors just throw everything they can at it.
Jason Sands, Associate Editor of Diesel Power
The two best shows on Motor Trend :)
If you check out Banean Woosley's 10.80-second quarter mile pass, you can see he's using just about all of his fuel on that run. Part of the reason why there's so much smoke, is that most of these trucks are tuned for sea level, but our challenge is held at a 6,000ft elevation, which means their tune is off a bit.
Jason Sands, Associate Editor of Diesel Power
YESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!! I'M A LOWRIDER/ HOTROD GUY. NOT REALLY INTO TRUCKS BUT PLEEEEEEEEEEEASE MAKE THIS A REGULAR SERIES!
The best show from motortrend outside of road kill
"CDL style obstacle" - For the CDL test you also have to parallel park a trailer. There is only enough room for the trailer between the cones so you need to jackknife the trailer in there.
Finally a real test on what pickups were designed to do. Thanks motortrend! I thoroughly enjoyed....can't wait for tomorrow's episode!!
this is a really good show, you guys should do this more often.
This year was very tough on parts, for sure, but that's what you get when you try and push the limits of your vehicle. With all the gung-ho driving this year, a level headed approach can sometimes be the key. If you've noticed that Wesley Beech won all three events on Day Two by being consistent and not breaking, you wouldn't be alone...
Jason Sands, Associate Editor of Diesel Power
Cummins (Dodge), Power Stroke (Ford), and Duramax (GM)
Jason Sands, Associate Editor of Diesel Power
This is pretty amazing. I don't think I've seen trucks pushed this hard. This is pretty cool!
Erik shattered his u-joint in the trailer tow, and the team threw a spare driveshaft in for the drag race. Unfortunately the front axle was probably already stressed from the failure, and the entire front part of the housing where the pinion is located sheared off the first time he tried to perform a launch at the dragstrip.
Jason Sands, Associate Editor of Diesel Power
Love this series. There should be a quarterly tournament of all winners
This and road kill are the best shows on motortrend
This is like the best show ever !
"This is the fastest part of the course." -Every time the go through the straight away
the best part of this is that most people watching this don't know that this competition has been going on for around 9 years and isn't put on by motor trend at all and was actually done in may. Oh and this year was pretty bad compared to 2 years ago. The last 2 years everyone has just been breaking everything and that just gets old.
Not killing your truck is a win for these guys.
LOVE THE SERIES!
Can't wait for part 3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"7.2 Powerstroke" lmfao
Kids will be kids... I've driven all three of the "Big Three" and personally I like them all!
that 7.3 is a freaking BEAST man. He may not have finished that quarter but that kind of power from a truck that's almost 15 years old. That's the oldest engine design out there. If I am not mistake its the only one with 2 valves per cylinder. Hate them or not the aftermarket tech is catching up with 7.3s and making them fun to watch compete.
The old 7.3 Powestroke is a durable engine. People need to remember that they are a slow speed work horse. Look at what dominates the truck pulls though....... Dmax and Cummins. Powerstrokes won't hang
It's MotorTrend, it's Diesel Power
Great series!!!
and the commentator is doing a good job, as well!
We need more stuff like that!
been waiting for this video all day!
Man that's a lot of weight to be pulling off of a dead stop, when that much torque meets that much traction fighting against that much weight... transmissions, U-joints, and diffs are going to be hurting, big time! And I love it!
Dam you gotta love the sound of those diesels!!! Especially the turbos!!
Seems to me that the cummins can hold on better then the rest n props to the only real man with manual!
this vid is insane! in a goog way lol
keep uploading ;)
It's called entertainment. I think it's badass.
It's about damn time! It's past 9:00 on the east coast.
I've been eating all day for this part :)
in other-words a diesel is an intelligent choice!
Part of the competition is being able to keep the truck together. 1500 horsepower isn't very useful if you can't keep it together, and that's the exact point. Well rounded trucks at moderate power levels have won the competition the last few years now, as the way it should be.
Don't worry. Tomorrow you will!
These announcers/hosts/presenters or whatever you call em are best I've heard in while, they give accurate information, speak clearly so you can understand and there isn't any long annoying pauses where announcers sometimes sound confused and don't know what's going on, those ones make it really boring to watch anything, may as well put it on mute. I've been watch some European race events recently and the announcers/hosts/presenters or whatever you call em there are absolutely terrible
The transmission is probably one of the most neglected parts on cars and trucks. Power doesn't mean a thing if you can't transfer it to the ground.
I like that the guy from KY runs a manual. That's a real country boy right there.
I couldn't agree with you more, but I do note that the compression ratio of these engines is likely lower so they can run more boost, and that most of these tunes are setup for the use of either water&methanol, nitrogen dioxide injection or both, hence not quite the same as a power tune in a street truck.
LOL "urea fountains and a little man in your exhaust sprinkling pixie dust to make the soot disappear."
This is fantastic
That trailer is weighted right? Or does that bobcat + the sheet metal trailer really weigh 10,000lbs? If so, that is one epic small bobcat.
I'm not a fan of truck nor know anything about it. But this is pretty entertaining.
I'm not really that into big diesel trucks at all but this is presented with just enough class and less over-the-top-macho-bullshit that it's actually enjoyable to watch. Good job
Looked like a fun event!
this event is about making life long friends more then taking home the gold!
good stuff!:)
Never thought about that! Yeah, I get it now. Thanks!
Supposed to be super amazing at this, and they are just breaking. lol
Trucks with that power barely keep together on the strip empty, I cant believe these guys entered the event. Drag racing pulling a 5ton load you know something is gunna give. Whoa!! Thats expensive!!!
Cummins torque rule!
hahahahahaha i love too see when the trucks blow up the looks on there faces is perfect
I feel like i'm watching golf on tv with those guys commenting xD
This is so fkn awesome! I LOVE DIESELS
what an intelligent comment!! very useful!
It was entertaining. they made it sound a bit more important and extreme than it actually was but it was interesting to watch. till the drag. at which point i was just waiting to see if any were gonna catch fire
I'm surprised that at least one of these trucks wasn't a manual trans. All the big rigs are manuals. Anyways, I'm a Ford guy myself but ALL of these trucks are awesome and even though I lean towards Ford's *IMO* the best truck would be a Ford Super Duty with a Cummins engine. All of these guys should be proud of their trucks!
this is the best!
Hell is officially freezing over. A reliable 6.4 Powerstroke? Thats fucking insane!!!
That was awesome Cummins and the Powerstorkes were neck and neck Powerstrokes got out way quicker then Cummins which sucked but trucks break down all the time you will have that.
First of all, these trucks have straight pipes from the turbos to wherever they exit.
Secondly theres only two reasons a diesel will smoke. One is that theres not enough air for the fuel to burn correctly(the reason in this video) the second would be because the injectors are damaged.
European engines are small displacement with high air intakes, and probably have 10 catalytic converters, urea fountains and a little man in your exhaust sprinkling pixie dust to make the soot disappear.
this guys voice is amazing and hes so funny
I was referring to the simple idling about and the trailer cross. I have a diesel and it only smokes under load, not simply puttering about, even when I put power tunes in it. I call these drivability fails. Only the 6.4l Fords seemed to be tuned for drivability.
Get you're own TV channel already!
very fun show to watch:) Subscribed!!!
The smoke is from them trying to spool their MASSIVE turbos.
I love this video
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6.4 is an absolute beast of an engine, put the same amount of cash into a dodge or chevy and still wont even come close to the power of a tuned 6.4 with only a dpf delete and spartan tuner.
A lot of semi tractors have it rigged up to where you do not need to use the clutch to shift from gear to gear. You only need the clutch to put in in first when at a dead stop.
now on Craigslist never abused well maintained !!
It's also worth noting that diesel has a higher thermal mass than air, so by tuning to be placing extra unburnt fuel in the exhaust rather than unburnt oxidizer (be it nos or oxygen from the air) you cool the engine better, improving the density of the mixture at a given cylinder pressure and keeping the turbos cooler than if you ran with an ideal mixture. It does kill your fuel economy and emissions standards so probably not the best idea for a daily driver however.
ITs so funny to watch the fords go down the track XD
The black smoke is just unburnt fuel. The turbo is the power forcing massive amounts of atmosphere 50+psi allowing the engine to make massive amounts of power.
Mostly suspension lift increases either the amount of suspension travel or the tyre size. A larger tyre gives the truck a bigger footprint on the ground, hence a lower pacific ground pressure so you don't sink as much on soft ground. However if you fit larger tyres on a lift you may have to lower the bump stops so that they do not hit the guards, so you do not gain as much travel. Increasing the travel allows the vehicle to handle bigger objects with all tyres on the ground, hence more grip.
Lifting a vehicle also increases the front, rear and ramp-over angles so you can handle bigger objects without hitting the body or drive-train. However lifting a vehicle increases the height of its center of mass, so it handles less side slope and horizontal dynamic forces before rolling over. It also affect drive-line and steering angles so on the whole it is not recommended for road use, manufactures normally chose the vehicle height for a good reason after-all. So don't do it for looks.
Fun to watch
I loved the wheels and tires on the 99
I still have faith that a Cummins will come through in the end! GO Dodge!
a dually doesnt have a bigger tire contact patch. remember guys, traction force is equal to uN where u is coefficient of friction(how soft the tire is) and N is the normal force or weight on the tire. with a dualy the weight is spread across 6 tires not 4 so each tire is producing less traction but everything being equal the same amount of traction a non dually has.
So Much Power!
Wesley represent for Ohio baby!!! Hell ya
Didn't know that, thanks!
No go all torque .. gotta love it
That GMC Dually was GETTING DOWN lol. Damn. 19:55 HELL YEAH.
Couldn't agree more lol.. lil bobcat, Try hauling like 8 houses in a goose neck.
You know, seeing the transmission failures, I'm wondering if these guys put a lot of time into their motor, but simply didn't think too much about upgrading their transmissions to handle all that flippin' torque!
17:48 he's listening to Thrift Shop!! LOL
Powerstroke won the compitition tough guy
Damn....these boys can't back up a trailer to save their lives...
That bobcat was killing those trucks
Ford 6.0. Never underestimate the underdog. Boom.
Clutchless shifting is no rig good sir, its all in the skill of the operator and the knowledge of his machine. Newer (regular) manuals don't last too long under a clutchless shifting environment as it wears the syncros really fast. Motorbike transmissions are far better at clutchless shifting for the unexperienced.
Slightly used diesel, never raced, for sale...........