Shanks Vs Mihawk is Finally Over 🥳
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0:00 Intro
3:01 Promotion
5:02 3 Years Ago
9:21 The Truth About Sword Skill
23:07 Low H Levels?
33:34 WSS Stats
40:49 The Red Wonder
49:15 It's Over
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if you are going to bring up bounty mihawk has no crew he is solo shanks has a fleet as seen when he fought kid 3.5bil solo or 4bil with a fleet
Same to you but kol does this mean you have mihawk and shanks equal or one stronger ?
@@omarwrighy731 shanks is stronger
@@Fire_Lord95 in what way ?
If Oda were to ever draw Mihawk v. Shanks they would clash, split the skies, and then we skip to three days in the future where they’re partying and having a good time like Roger v. WB.
In the Past probably but in Present Hell no.
Not with Shanks Performing like a DBZ Character, Making Admirals Surrender and 1 Tapping 3 billion Bounty and his right hand with Probably has a Billion bounty himself.
Mihawk better show something soon or it's a Wrap Honestly...
@@baltzy1616 no way youre bounty scaling
No way oda told u what will happen shanks would beat him with one hand tied behind his back lol
@@donhokage oda never said this
I hate how Oda does that
Bro made a 51 minute video of pure headcanon lmao
But many parts were logical and factual like how Haki usage is rare besides Wano & Amzon Lily
There's effort behind this vid
@@seif9479 Mihawktards cannot fathom a meaningful discussion (They are far too gone)
@@seif9479, the entire method of deception is by twisting actual facts with misleading logic.
Not only that, KOL is just using a loophole argument. This means he's mentioning ways that "could" make him right, which literally anyone could do to make any position seem reasonable even when it's not.
@@MihawkTopOne yeah people are dumb and want to believe or listen to anything that supports their take. At the end of the day KOL is insanely biased and thats ok as long as you remember to watch his videos with the context that its purely entertainment
Mihawk fans are so braindead smh.
All that cope just to end it with 1 page
The World Strongest Swordsman
Dracule Mihawk
Who never beat shanks in a duel and had to reason with vista theres cope on both sides 😭
@@yaJA._.Not rly a cope, just delusion for shanks fanboys
The narrator also: “law and kidd defeated big mom” as big mom on the way down was still full of energy complaining to roger and a bomb exploded on her face
with no on screen feats. Bro got worse feats than crocodile.Meat ride mihawk when he gets feats.
@@leonkastilyo7463you say that but in all honesty big mom took more visable damage than kaido with all the broken bones
The first thing Mihawk taught Zoro was haki. Improving your haki improves you swordsmanship
No your wrong.
@momotheone9700 he is right. Haki is essential to swordsmanship. That's why mihawk has a black blade. Truth hurts.
@@Trickey2413haki is essential to everything it enhances swordmanship just like it does luffy with his hand to hand or garp the argument that haki equates to swordmanship is by far one of the dumbest arguments for why mihawk is over shanks 😭🤦🏽♂️
@@Trickey2413 you sound dilusional, kol literally proved to you that you can be a great swordsman without haki, but you wanna sit here and say only having good haki constitute for being a good swordsman? Then what are those guys?sword carriers who happens to be able to use it? Come on be logical
@@yaJA._. exactly finally someone thats logical, haki universally enhances everything, its not what makes them a swordsmen, you have swordsmen and sword technique that does not have or include haki at all, if that exist and those are top tier swordsmen and abilities, similarly to how you have strong characters without haki and predominant devilfruit users, we know that when haki is mastered and advanced, it trumps all, not when its turns a sword black, thats like saying luffy will never become the strongest pirate because he does not use a sword, kaido does not use a sword but he was a yonko with betrer portrayal than mihawk for a long time too, it just does not add up
sword skill in one piece :
in the anime when the scabbards tried to perform paradise totsuka, there appeared a flashback of oden saying to them i'll teach you oden's two sword style then proceeded to explain ryuo to them firsthand, instantly after this kinemon said to kaido "we polished our sword skills to save the land of wano today" then performed the technique (ep1004)
on another spot, zoro asking mihawk "teach me the way of the sword" then mihawk proceeded to teach him haki
another one, Rayleigh saying "observation haki is the power to feel another's presence to an elevated degree" and mihawk at baratie saying "if you're a competent swordsman, you don't need to cross swords to know the difference between us" meaning the greater haki you have the more competent of a swordsman you are by mihawk's saying
another, sukiyaki telling zoro that enma exudes its wielders ryuo on its own and slices more than needed then zoro saying "so by the time i'm used to this it'll mean i've gotten that much stronger?", let alone the fact that mihawk is taming the greatest sword in the world not just enma
another, rayleigh saying conqueror's is found in the type of people who make a name for themselves on a global scale, and king saying "so you intend to be a king then" after seeing zoro's conqueror's, what do you think about someone who's already sitting up there?
rayleigh also saying "THE REAL ADVANCEMENT IN HAKI HAPPENS DURING EXTREME USE IN BATTLE, THE STRONGER FOES YOU FACE WITH THIS POWER THE STRONGER YOU'LL BECOME WITH IT", and whitebeard saying "many consider them as legends, the duals between you and hawkeye", and as we already know shanks used to fight mihawk up to his 27yo and both made each other's haki way stronger according to the rule, until the moment of losing an arm and gaining a disadvantage at swords playing, the same moment mihawk deciding to stop trying to settle things respecting his swordsmand's code and honor
main point is, only a dumb one would say "skill is just the way you swing a sword" and try to separate Haki from a swordsman's skill in the one piece verse
Zoro didn't get stronger through honing his "sword skills" by twirling his sword with better finesse, haki (ACOC) was the game-changer that upped him to the next level to allow him to defeat King. And him controlling and honing his haki better going forward is going to make him even stronger.
It's quite obvious that it's all leading towards Zoro making a black blade as one of his final power ups come the end of series, which is another haki related power up, KOL. Haki is too integral to a swordsman, there's no going around this. Not to mention there's a chance Zoro might awaken future sight to be able to keep up with Mihawk who is heavily hinted at to having an absurd level of observation haki.
Is a black blade a haki related power up though? 22:38
Well the Thing is Midhawk has ACoc while Shanks has The Biggest and Strongest Advanced King D. Coc.
That's the Factually Correct Canon Distance between Whanks and Midhawk.
@@ZillaGame77 ask sukiyaki one of the best swordsmiths ever...
"if enma turns into a black blade its rank might increase"
if rank determines division and not power IN YOUR MIND then that is ONLY in your mind and doesnt apply in one piece!
@@okashira073 It's literally a statement from an official source?
It's not advanced conquerors. It's base level conquerors at the weakest point that he can't even control yet. He barely knows he has it.
Any excuse to glaze Shanks to the high heavens while downplaying Mihawk 😂
King does this with Mihawk, Garp, and Zoro. Any chance he can, the man is a contortionist!
You can’t downplay someone that has only bad feats… Oda downplayed him 🤷🏻♂️
Also is it really glazing to think the man that Oda’s portrayed as #1 in the verse besides maybe Imu or Dragon due to portrayal, and his feats on and off the battlefield.
This isn’t glazing at all. He explained it logically. Y’all Mihawk stans don’t understand you are the ones glazing. 🤦♂️
@@moistmellow1198thats the truth. He vanishes anytime an individual of “Warlord” level of higher comes around. He has not engaged any Admiral before [as far as we know] he hasn’t engaged any Emperor before besides Buggy [pre Emperor Shanks].
Truly the most overrated character in One Piece
As a person who also like shanks more than mihawk this logically makes no sense considering the path and enemies Zoro faced.
This guy just loves glazing shanks we all know this lmao he would argue prime roger and wb would lose to shanks 😂😂😂 when they first showed cross guild it was literally stated that mihawk surpasses shanks with the sword and he’s still down playing him
It do make since cause king isn’t really a swordsmen like that he rely more on his devil fruit then sword skill like lightning was giving a example
@@davidw5789Except Shanks isn’t a Lunarian and also doesn’t have a DF power. Shanks is just a human and swordsman.
@@S113Productions yep but shank got haki the reason i don’t put Mohawk over shanks is cause shank isn’t a real swordsmen if he was he would of been on the that manga that show all the real swordsmen and big mom are shanks wasnt on there but they used swords so it do add up
@@S113Productions yep but shank got haki the reason i don’t put Mohawk over shanks is cause shank isn’t a real swordsmen if he was he would of been on the that manga that show all the real swordsmen and big mom are shanks wasnt on there but they used swords so it do add up
Oda: mihawk is the best swordsman and shanks is a swordsman...
Most people: oh so mihawk is stronger
Kol: no ackchyually it only means mihawk knows how to move the sword better than shanks
Yeah this video just seems like major cope lol.
I say this every chance i get so people understand that Mihawk's title doesn't mean much..
Were Kaido and WB the strongest when they were declared the strongest?
Simple answer, no...
Why?
Shanks is clearly stronger than both Kaido and Old Wb.
Was prime WB the strongest in the world in his time?
No, Roger was his better...
And even Roger being his better..Roger was not the strongest..
Imu has always been in the shadows..as the true WSM..unless you guys want to question the last boss of the whole story being weaker than the previous PK..
Even the damn Gorosei are much older than they look.
The immortality operation has clearly been done on Saturn...because he looks today as he looked 38y back...They might be hundreds of years old..
Even the Gandhi Gorosei might be from the Void century...What do you guys think in that situation?
Is Mihawk > few hundreds year old, maybe void century swordsman Gandhi?
Or the other way around?
I am here just to discuss...because for me it's clear how things stand.
The only good argument here is the black blade, that's all..Gandhi doesn't have it..
Oda: Luffy is the main char of One piece. His dream, his fights takes most priority. As you can see for past 1000 chapters. Mihawk is char I created just for zoro's dream. Also Titles are not absolute. Every Worlds strongest char I introduced, I also showed how he was not uncontested strong.
Read comprehension. Okay so there is a nuance to swordsmanship.
You: No mIhawk is stronger coz WSS. Cant be stronger than swordsman
@@TheNilayAnurag never mentioned luffy...
I will make it simple for you
Mihawk is a swordsman who uses haki
Shanks is a swordsman who uses haki
Oda said mihawk is a stronger swordsman which means mihawk is stronger than shanks.
Is that simple for you to follow?
@TheNilayAnurag "Uncontested strong"? You mean "ignoring context," right?
Zoro with one sword and haki beats zoro with three swords and no haki. Haki is apart of swordsmanship
Are u slow?
no, haki is part of base stats. If zoro and Mihawk fought with no haki mihawk would still win
One sword would still be swordsmanship... Zoro doesn't ever use non-swordsmanship. He even has sword skill when using zero swords.
You're essentially saying zoro + sword skill and haki would beat zoro with no haki and only slightly better sword skills.
You'd have to remove all of zoro's swords, along with his zero sword style and just have him basically punching and kicking vs three sword style and his best techniques. Obviously three sword style wins. Same reason s-hawk with swordsman ship alone can perform better and stronger feats than even dressrosa zoro who already has haki.
No need to dance around a simple fact: Having good skills with a SWORD makes you a good SWORDSMAN.... Haki is a boost of attack/defense on a more basic level beyond any sword, weapon, etc.
@@bluacefulno he wouldn’t lmao he would get his swords broken the same way Zoro did in their first fight are you slow ? Haki is a huge part of sword fighting 😭mihawk wouldn’t even cut kaidos skin without haki
Damn I got hyped up for no reason, I started reading the latest chapters thinking a big reveal happened or something but this dude just over here glazing up red hair like a backroom groupie, I'll be back in 2 years when we actually get to see Mihawk fight.
LMAOOOOO
LMAOOO YOU MAD?
Does your mouth hurt from all that Mihawk you be eating💀
@@jpraise6771 haven't said a good/bad thing about mihawk in this post, so your entire comment is moot.
All the red haird fraud fans in the comments really out here projecting😂
Shanks is not a swordsman
He is a ratman, and hawks eat rats 🦅>🐀
Agreed!
@@thechillinwithchillestpodcast Agreed with your agreement!!!🤝
@@user-ud4od6mf4tnot mihawk is a leech, rat will eat that leech.
@@user-ud4od6mf4tagreed with your agreement that agreed with that agreement
oda said shanks isn’t a rat
You can truly never be wrong if you cope to make your agenda right no matter what happens in the story. We saw him do this with garp it wont stop lol.
Shanks literally one shot Kidd and Killer which he did by jumping unknown number of miles from his ship to Kidds Ship in an Instant because he used Future sight haki and saw Kidd causing heavy DMG to his fleet.
What part of this feat is Agenda Against Mihawk?
Garp was doing nothing for the longest time and I agree that KOL Slandered Garp into the Grave but with Shanks it's literally right in front of your face and if you still won't accept the facts then you are just Delusional...
Mihawk isn't an Emperor,Shanks is.
The World Gov and Old Yonko Fear Shanks more than Mihawk(The Gorosei in Pre-timeskip, Marineford War Marines and Blackbeard both backing down, Greenbull Surrendering and also Kaido's Top 5)
How much portrayal do you guys need before it finally sinks in that Dense Head of yours that Shanks is over Mihawk.
@@baltzy1616 last time I checked Mihawk the only dude with over a billion bounty without literally any crew😂😂 btw Shanks became famous from fighting Mihawk who was already known as the marine hunter 🤷🏻♀️
@@JOYOODBOYOO what do you mean no crew? blud is literally Buggy's Henchman and Shanks vs Mihawk was 12 Years ago, how many loops are you going to jump in order to meat ride your Fraudhawk🤣🤣🤣
@@baltzy1616 shanks LITERALLY didnt one shot them, damned punk exploded right after divine departure LOL.... anti one piece fan detected... shankstards deserve no freedom of speech... i once was a shankstard too and now im ashamed but at least i have principles and my desire is to respect what the story says UNLIKE YOU
@@baltzy1616 ahh yes can’t forget about Mihawk joining a crew in the final arc.. in 2023..💀🤣
In conclusion Shanks is a swordsman which means Mihawk is stronger than him since he is the WORLD STRONGEST SWORDSMAN
Shank is not really a swordsman. sure he uses a sword but he will punch, kick and use non sword related haki attacks too. a pure swordsman like mihawk would only ever use swordskills. i wanted to say the same for zoro but he does actually have a no sword style which puts him down to 90% pure swordsman. although he would never use this style if his swords are within reach so i guess its debateable
@@Anders-bf2mhserious headcannon
Do y’all even understand how to achieve the title? Y’all realize mihawk hasn’t fought every swordsman, he simply beat whoever has the title before him
There is literally only one other person who is actively going for that title 😂 that title don’t have as much weight as y’all title huggers like to believe.
@@afrothunder1082If the author gave him the title, then it’s factual. I still can’t believe there are people who think Oda, the literal author, is wrong about his story and characters.
The fact that shanks is showing his bag first tells me oda is cooking and about to give mihawk the craziest bag of all time apart from Luffy and BB and I can’t wait to see y’all switch up 😂
Wdym we saw him attacking at marine ford
@@jailynjeffersonI don’t know what op is on we saw Mihawk’s bag in east fucking blue
@@kain6996We saw Shanks bag in episode 2. 😂
Mihawk better be scare someone we deemed stronger or on par with Greenbull or 1 hit someone stronger or on par with Kidd + Killer because if Mihawk just destroyed 10 or more battleships in one slash or cut a mountain in half or 1 shot someone weaker than an Admiral, the Mihawk agenda will be proven fraudulent as we all thought it always been.
You guys will come up with any reason to believe in Mihawk
@39:15 im confused are you suggesting that mihawk has to amp himself with haki to do what s hawk does even after he has easily demonstrated he can produce greater slashes than s hawk pre time skip on a casual level?
The only thing s hawk might have over mihawk is physical durability.
Prove his Marineford slash is bigger than the slash S hawk did. Furthermore, prove Mihawk had no effort in his slash, and prove S hawk couldn't replicate it🤦♀️
@jpraise6771 prove it? OK you would have to grow a set of eyes first so you can clearly see it
No seriously if you really can't tell the difference I can't help you.
On top of that zoro tells s hawk he is more human than mihawk himself so there is that
@@jpraise6771Grow up lil man
It was over the day Mihawk was acknowledged as the Worlds Strongest Swordsman.
Exactly, it really is this simple, the only way you could find an argument for shanks is if u could somehow prove he isnt a swordsman but thats genuinely impossible bc everything within the narrative as well as the data books points to him being one
Facts
Fr bros act like u can play mental gymnastics over “I will stand at the top of the world and wait no matter how many months or years”, and greater sword skills followed by the worlds strongest swordsmen 😂 it’s irrefutable it literally means I can do everything better than him and everyone else in the show then comes the feats argument when s-hawk shows better feats than the original are we then to say s-hawk is stronger even Tho zoro confirms chapter 1073 that isn’t even human compared to him 😂 mihawk has never used armament but can teach haki and have a black blade , he’s called the clairvoyant but hasn’t used observation haki 😂 I think you guys know where I’m getting at next do not be suprised if Mihawk has better conq than shanks in the future
@@deanward6001they use conquers as a narrative but are forgetting zoro unlocked this n said after wano that ain’t enough bruh 😂 honestly the mental gymnastics to not admit mihawk is above him is hilarious
@@Thefackerofannuses 100% agree
All of those people would instantly be better swordsman if they did have haki tho. That's why Mihawks swordsman training thought zoro haki sword coating...
This just isn’t true. All zoro has done with haki is improve his ap. If you have Luffy a sword even with how great his haki is he wouldn’t be a good fighter. You have to have the sword style as well.
@@travisealy3512 Luffy wouldnt be great but still better than if he didnt have haki
@@travisealy3512reading is fundamental, "All of those people would be better swordsman if they used haki". Why are you bringing up someone who isn't a swordsman to begin with when his entire point was about people already proficient in using a blade? If Brooke use haki his swordsmanship would be better, Mihawk spent time teaching zoro haki instead of new sword techniques because zoro was lacking power not technique. We all love to use kaidos statement about how haki transcends all until it comes to Mihawk then suddenly its about skill and not power.
@@LuciusFox24 you take pre time skip zoro and have him fight against a marine with haki, he could still win. We saw Luffy without haki beat haki users in Amazon Lily. They are just great fighters. Now adding haki does help but you still need to be able to fight.
@@travisealy3512Does that not make him better? He teached him Haki coating because it will lead him to greater results, hitting harder is part of that.
I think having the title of Marine hunter says alot about the power of mihawk. So strong that the WG asked him to work with them
Them dumb mf's were just asking for the cross guild to be formed. U cut ties with a dude thats worth over 3bill and u don't even send an admiral after him?
The WG asked Ace to work with them too.
He wasn’t known as a Marine hunter though but I understand your point 👍🏽
@@eoussama Ace was insanely powerful.
,This sounds like head canon. The reality is they wanted strong pirates to balance the influence of the yonkos.. Bro had a reputation .Once they got rid of the warlord system, the Marines had no issue sending admirals after mihawk. Main reason he had to team up with croc and buggy
But that bounty though? 3.59 billion Beri that's insane for a person with no crew, Shanks bounty is 4 billion???? They're definitely on par. Mihawk definitely ate those divine departures during their duels, but both of them never injured the other 😅
Glazes shanks but doesn't mention how Mihawk has the strongest blade in the series
Doesn't mention Mihawk staring down the entire red hair pirates without fear
Doesn't mention the fact that Mihawk could find someone who cancels observation haki
But instead uses marine Ford to try and downplay mihawk just like everyone else. Not a single original claim in the video my guy
Mihawk sends a slash leaving even Sen goku speechless, yet just because someone made out of diamonds who couldn't even tank the attack but instead has to throw it into the sky bc it would 1 shot him but apparently that means Mihawks a fraud? Yea sure buddy, if shanks sent a slash from 100 feat away its getting sent into the sky, even if it's a divine departure as long as if isn't point blank. If Mihawk made his slash close range it wasn't getting blocked
Shanks having possibly strongest haki out if alive people doesn't mean Mihawk doesn't have great haki himself, Shanks having slightly better haki or even moderately better Haki isn't putting him above someone with top tier haki and more skill than Shanks.
In a fight Mihawk always wins, no ifs about it
But shanks has stronger haki so he'd still be stronger because Mihawk’s claim to fame is his fighting ability in which he surpasses shanks in that desperate
Yet Shanks fans can't read and still somehow think Shanks is beating someone on the same level as shanks with more skill than shanks
So yeah, no peace obtain, all you did was make a shanks tard video
I just know this video is going to be full of bias, any chance KOL gets to downplay Zoro he will take.
In this case it’s via Mihawk, while also using it to slobber Shanks.
This all stems from his love of Sanji and a need to make him equal to Zoro by any means possible 😂
Merry Christmas KOL and everyone 🎉
PS I see Mihawk and Shanks as comparable
There’s literally zero proof that zoro is stronger than Sanji and even if he’s stronger with 3 swords zoro still needs 3 swords he’s a fraud Sanji beats him for sure if Zoro uses 2 swords only
And none of what you have to say would be proof that zoro is stronger you know what proof actually means ? Cause you zoro fans don’t know what it means there’s literally no one that argues about aokiji being stronger than akaino why ? Because there’s actually proof that Akainu beat him in a fight we can’t say the same for zoro and Sanji
As long as Sanji and zoro never have a fight and Oda never says himself zoro is stronger because he never said that even when asked point blank in an sbs
People who have the opinion of zoro and Sanji being equal in power are valid and it’s not like they’re never portrayed as being equals cause they have been portrayed like that multiple times throwout the series
@@Mohamadtheman "even if he’s stronger with 3 swords zoro still needs 3 swords he’s a fraud" you showed some 8 year old energy right there. You do realize both Sanji and Zoro are extremely strong when it comes to pure strength, right? Sure, Zoro is at its best with his swords but they are an extension of himself. Jeez... he even used the Tatsumaki technique with ZERO swords.
Let's imagine you could stop a car with a giant sword (no haki, just brute force), is it the sword that is strong or yourself?
Get this straight: I'm not downplaying Sanji, both of them have similar capabilities, but it's just childish to see this as a black and white issue while saying "Sanji beats him for sure".
fu*k off you're the 8 year old the 8 year old is the one that ignores the facts i'm not gonna ignore that he's the only character that needs not 1 not 2 but 3 busted weapons to be worth a damm it will always make zoro less impressive @@gustavo9758
i know he has his no swords style but he only uses it against fodder he wouldn't beat most of his opponents without 3 swords zoro is at his full power when he uses 3 swords so i don't think he would beat sanji with 2 swords because that's not his full power if you think zoro wouldn't need his full power ( 3 swords ) to beat sanji then you're just downplaying sanji @@gustavo9758
Exactly did you see his video where he rates Luffy Zoro and Sanji? 😂
The problem with all this comes down to the simple question and answer:
How does one become the world's strongest swordsman?
By defeating in a sword duel, the current holder of the title.
To use the terminology KOL used, if Mihawk is 100 with an 85 sword skill and 15 everything else lost to Shanks, who is a 101 with a 25 sword skill and 76 everything else, because his overall pie is bigger even though his sword skill is lower, would Shanks be the WSS?
If you answer yes, then either Mihawk has to be stronger than Shanks and Roger or a swords duel doesn’t include haki. If you answer no, then you're going against the story that specifically told us you become the strongest by defeating the current title holder.
I like you point but I do have one issue with it. The logic implies that the previous worlds strongest swords man was also the strongest character in the world (because your saying that mihawk has to be the strongest because he defeated the strongest to become WSS) and I don’t think the story has put a very big emphasis on strong characters wanting to become WSS other than zoro. So there isn’t really any explicit evidence that it is the case but who knows.
Who did mihawk beat?
@spamspamspamspam3459 We don't know. All we know is, according to Zoro, the only way to become the WSS is to defeat Mihawk in sword duel.
@@23TDJshanks said to Mihawk have you come to settle the score they were most likely tied on wins and losses pal😂😂😂
@@23TDJ What is this logic? Mihawk became worlds strongest swordsman after Roger died. And Shanks has not Dueled Mihawk in 12 years. There is nobody who has challenged Mihawk for the title in over a decade.
KOL this is not the way man, your blinded by your emotions and not the actual evidence displayed. Sell off your Shanks stocks now while they are high.
Shanks is like a lion, known for his strong pride and amazing roar(haki), while Mihawk resembles a tiger-silent, deadly, and a straight-up killer. I will give you that Shanks went to White Beard and then Kaido and right after the Gourosei. But, who purposely pulled up on Shanks surrounded by his crew??? It was Mihawk, and then pretty much dismissed Shanks from fighting, for not having an arm.
No stop glazing miwk it’s clearly show that he is like a eagle don’t create you own happiness shanks is stronger than miwk that you wanted or not
The part where zoro says he might actually die, when he says enma his draining him to that extent….
We can safely assume, that what Yoru might be like, and we need to see the distance between Yoru and enma, which isn’t even a supreme grade !! to handle which Zoro is pushed to utmost limit, while the mastery and having that sword obey him as an extension of himself effortlessly is still a thing which he has to work on with Enma.
All of this is there to suggest what wielding a sword is like, as Shimostuki Kozaburo explained how swords are each with a personality of its own!!
Watching enma drain Zoro was a crazy scene !! And I can’t believe that its Zoro who’s having this much trouble and he just barely gripped the sword !
Along those lines and by simple logic, that means Mihawk must be crazy crazy crazy powerful wielding that monster of sword, for Zoro himself said thats he’s about die, not cuz of fighting King or some injury or anything else, but just cuz he is trying to tame that sword !!! Its the freakin sword, therefore someone even stronger than Zoro , just think !! Even STRONGER THAN ZORO might actually even die, just trying to tame Yoru ! and again mastering the sword and other things are then again whole another ordeal…
Oda’s made sure you cant wield these swords without EXTREME base power, so this should settle the base power debate !!
My guy please use a period. I had a stroke trying to make sense of that paragraph sentence.
@@bigmuda it made perfecte sense and i had no trouble reading this at all its just you expect things on a silver plattern... its a you problem gtfo
dont listen to that big muda hes a big mouther... you made perfect sense from every perspective!!! thank you
Still not a strong as Shanks
@@bigmuda noted !!
It's never going to end
This decade it'll end.
@@KingOfLightningwith u being wrong unfortunately 0df teech scar’d him the seabeast I’ll ignore even tho it’s still embarrassing went to wb said yo I’ve been scar’d countless times but ur apprentice done me dirty verses mihawk clashing with vista that’s his only L has gone and lived 43 years without another individual harming his skin but u GOT HIM AT 8 in ur list nah idc he gotta go higher
@@ThefackerofannusesI say this about the Roger haters that think Shanks and Kaido are stronger.
Mihawk and Roger are the absolute only dudes in the verse who we don’t know to have any major or noticeable scars……..
@@jamesonedwardsii4943 meaning there defence is of the highest tier as mihawk showed with jimbie not even touching him with his sword blowing him away into the water with bullets being fired upon him and the fact he's ship has 0 protection against waves seabeasts ect meaning mihawk can not only defend himself perfectly but his lil ship also
@@KingOfLightningfatso it will end when Mihawk shows his levels
But hey you can continue to use you head canon and say haki and swords play is different cause if it is than my boi ZORO ain't no swordsman with THAT haki
Shanks got scared by a Black beard with no devil fruit, also goes and snitch’s to the gorosei. Mihawk better drip, better sword, better title, has a castle to himself, and could pull perona without trying. Imma ride with the man who didn’t lose his arm to a sea king.
Ah yes Shanks is just a Haki-Gandalf and not a swordsmen. Makes sense.
Ok that’s it then. Zoro’s dream won’t be achieved because Oda lied about Mihawk for 25 years and he’ll never fight shanks. Oh well
That rat will probably die then, but vivre cards already prove Zoro would own him by then.
Actually… this probably won’t happen, and I hated the whole ZKK thing, but Zoro vs Shanks? I could see it. When Luffy was a kid one of his brags was “My crew will be better than yours. How much of a power move would it be for Luffy to say to Shanks “I don’t even have to deal with you. My crew’s so good, my first mate can handle you.”
Not our fault Mihawk has no feats
bro didnt watch the video at all LMFAO
@@MrYondaime705 I did. If shanks is stronger than Mihawk, all Zoro’s training, his growth in power and haki and the dream he had from the start of the story is worth nothing. With all the build up just to have shanks be stronger through some technicality of sword-skill being it’s own separate thing and have that be what’s needed to be WSS would be some of the worst writing I have ever seen from a Manga ever, especially one rated as highly as One Piece is.
Haki is a synonymous with Swordsmanship! It’s what creates tiers and pushes you to the upper echelon of swordsmanship specifically. the fact that no one that has a black blade doesn’t have Haki should tell you that.
But Wano Haki is a separate thing bc it’s just highlights their specific outlook. That doesn’t mean that it wasn’t learned outside of Wano.
You explanation doesn’t make a case for Haki and swordsmanship not being synonymous. Your explanation is more of a separation of tiers of raw sword skill.
the mental gymnastics are astounding
"The stronger character is the one the author wants to be the strongest"- Stan Lee
Obviously but Oda is a snake he never makes it clear between characters that people argue about the most
Yup, mihawk and shanks have equal stats in haki but mihawk has edge in swordsman ship over shanks. That's all you need to know. The debate is done.
You get it
Haki > All
Shanks has better conquerors and armament, and can nulify observation
Equal haki but can't cut Luffy pre time skip "I'm sorry redhair but I won't hold back against mugiwara" lmao 🤣
@@Fire_Lord95 if you really think he was going all out, then I don't have enough brain cells to debate you.
'peace of mind has been attained' -KOL
mah man! HAHAHHHAHAHA
bro woke up and chose violence on christmas
Mihawk has 3,998,000,000 hidden bounty. Rayleigh has 3,997,000,000 hidden bounty. Shanks has 3,996,000,000.
Shanks is only dangerous when he has a crew to protect. Mihawk > Shanks in a solo fight. Kaido and Mihawk are very alike. MC > Strongest > MC look alike.
This is why y’all are fun to mock but not debate you just pulled 3 random numbers out of your ass.
Wtf? bounty scaling AND the bounties are made up??
man the cope shanks fans need to argue anything is crazy. they a bit rabid since rayleigh matched shanks “big haki feat” in about 5 seconds of screentime
Rayleigh didn't do anything close lmao😂
That's right! That's right! 👏 👏 tell em king. They gotta know. The pie charts and explaining it through our most known swordsman really sold it.
Bro this whole video was basically shanks glazing 😂
Exactly. The creator is a fool.
if shanks is stronger, zoro has to fight and beat shanks
Zoro will surpass Oden Rayleigh mihawk shanks roger
No he doesn't, he's looking to take the title and Mihawk has the title.
@@saidbachlil2612Tell me when exactly did you convince yourselves that Zoro is the Secret Protagonist of the Series?😂😂😂
@@baltzy1616 definition of a deuteragonist (from the Greek deuteragōnistēs, for “second actor”) is the second most important and present character in a story-often called a secondary main character. just like Zoro
@@saidbachlil2612 Akstually👆 According to the Dictionary Zoro is the Secondary Main Character🤓🤓🤓
In physical stats Shanks and Mihawk are probably similar. They are both swordsmen who can only supplement their swordsmanship with Haki, since they have nothing else. I think Shanks has better(Advanced) Conquerors Haki, Mihawk has better Armament Haki and Shanks for now has better Observation Haki simply due to feats. Although Mihawk literally has Hawk-Eyes so on a symbolic level, I expect him to have high-level Observation Haki as well. Shanks probably developed Killer of Observation because of Mihawk. However Mihawk then gets a win in narrative due to being Zoros goal.
So:
Physical stats and IQ: Equals (both "normal humans" by One Piece standards.)
Haki: Shanks (until we see more from Mihawk. Will be similar level, since he will have ACoC as well. Although I expect the quality of Shanks Haki to be greater and the number of hax and abillities)
(Hax) Abillities:Shanks
Skill: Mihawk
Weapon: Mihawk
Narrative: Mihawk
Stop glazing miwk he doesn’t have a better haki than shanks it will never had it doesn’t made any sense
@@rtx9430 I literally said that Shanks has better overall Haki(at least for now, because he has actual feats). What are you complaining about?
@@rtx9430 It makes PERFECT sense.
Yooooo! These Shanks v Mihawk debates are HEATED!!! Y'all boys are really blowed about this huh?😂
Starting off the video with a crusty bda law flashback is evil work Kol 😂😂😂😂😂
Mihawk has the Title but since Oda's a Shanks fan boy he'll always get more hyped than Mihawk. He even goes as far as pointing out that Mihawk exceeds Shanks in "Swordplay/skills".😅 By doing that Oda himself has created this conundrum so that fans could argue till the end of time.😂
LOL who the hell do you think gave Mihawk that title 😂
Unfortunately his title dosen't reflect what Oda's doing with his character in story.
Shanks vs stronger or =. But with no arm. Mihawk takes the edge. And wins.
I dont get this notion at all. Since when do swordsmen rely on using both hands when operating a sword?
Ipiercy stop trolling bruh 😂😂
@@ipiercyroger used one hand for oden and two for whiebeard in the flashback
Oda: “Mihawk is the world’s strongest swordsman”
Community: Nah
Literally all of Zoro's powerups post-timeskip have been haki related. If you really think a character who has been established as Zoro's endgoal for over 1000 chapters won't have crazy haki then you're bugging. The man is called 'Hawkeyes' ffs.
All this for shanks to still be a swordsman
Shanks stans need to cope harder
When did KOL ever say he isnt ?
@@MrYondaime705 he’s trying his hardest to manipulate the fact that shanks is a swordsman
Uses road to laughtale to further his point but ignores multiple other Databook statements calling shanks a swordsman directly which puts him under the worlds strongest *swordsman*
@@quhe He never denied Shanks is a swordsman, Shanks fights using a sword so of course hes a swordsman.
Hes saying there’s a difference Between Sword Skill vs Haki, and there is and you would know if you watched the video
So even though yes, Mihawk is THE stronger swordsman than Shanks, he is still Overall Weaker than Shanks. That doesnt take away from his title, or Zoros dream either because he is Still the Strongest swordsman, even though he is Overall weaker than Shanks.
You can have a better sword skill than someone else who has a stronger Haki than you.
@@MrYondaime705 sword skills has more to do with haki than he is suggesting if you go back to the oden flashback oden told the scabs the first thing to odens two sword style is ryuo
Kol tries to make it seem like swordsmanship has nothing to do with haki?
One sword style is his speed form
Two sword style is his defense form
Three sword style is the Perfect balance and his bread and butter.
His showings with all styles display this
Ok and clearly he is better with all three than without
@@naruto354fulactually no lol zoro’s
1 sword style lion song or flying dragon blaze > 3 sword style oni Giri
@@jasonxx9884 So Zoro only does those two moves?
@@jasonxx9884Is The Lion Song and Flying Dragon Blaze Better than Ashura and King of Hell 3 Sword Style?
@@baltzy1616 nah but I just proved that zoro has 1 sword style techniques better than some of the 3 sword style . 2 sword style is his weakest
An hour video on Christmas? Thanks kol.
Happy holidays
The way I always saw it is this… Mihawk can beat Shanks in a fight but Shanks can beat other people that Mihawks can’t… for example I don’t think Mihawk can beat kaido but shanks can
Shanks fans: Shanks is not a swordsman, but his dad Garling is swordsman.
Nah Shanks is a swordsman. Mihawk is the better swordsman but that doesn't mean Shanks is weaker than Mihawk. Also Mihawk is not weak himself, this is the guy who travels the grandline both paradise and the new world on his own.
@@BlackLotus30He is not just a better swordsman he is the stronger swordsman
Kol is so full of himself when always pushing Shanks above all else he might as well be a politician. Him going into tactical details to break the meaning and points he stated in this video is just assumption when Oda never even state out right who is the strongest. Me personally Shanks and Mihawk are equal, but Kol is trying to power scale in the series between 2 top tiers when the plot is king in the series. Power scaling in OP has always been inconsistent, not all over the place as Oda still maintain certain stability but Kol outright stating he has settled the debate when we still haven't seen what Mihawk can actually do is just him being his bias self like always. Just cause you know a lot about the series dose not mean you know everything when the author himself doesn't even want to go into detail about the subject 😂
It would seem that Oda set up mihawk as the mountain zero had to climb to achieve his goal. Shanks as the mountain luffy had to surpass to be the pirate king. Logically, shanks should be stronger than Mihawk for the story to unfold in a way that is consistent.
@@sitrus34 This if you assume that Mihawk world strongest sword'men title is below the Shank's title of Yonko. Need to keep in mind that two of the former Yonko had the strongest in their title as well, the only difference is that Mihawk is Shichibukai however that doesn't mean his position is any lower then the Yonko themselves. Oda has never stated that, and Yes Luffy wants to surpass Shank's but he want to be Pirate King which is above the Yonko. In other words it is something that not even Shank's has archived he is not Pirate King, so saying that Shanks is stronger then Mihawk when currently Yonko also share the position of the strongest title is speculation. Now I do believe that by the end of the series Luffy will be the strongest of all time, when it comes to that Luffy won't bother with mere Yonko anymore that will be dealt by people like Zoro who is probably by that time level of Yonko. Luffy true competition will be the final villain type perhaps Emu
@golth no. It doesn't require that assumption. It only requires me to read the manga and understand that mihawk had always been built up to be Zoros' final obstacle. Shanks was always been set up to play a huge part of the story where mihawk has always been foreshadowed to be the man zoro has to surpass to achieve his goals. I make no claims on who is stronger, but logically, it would make the most sense that shanks is.
@golth unless shanks is just going to be another ace for luffy. My personal opinion is shanks is either going to be secretly a villain or the next Ace. Someone that will fall to imu or blackbeard inspiring luffy to become even stronger. Mihawk seems to simply be someone for zoro to surpass. I could be wrong, but the most logical and consistent writing would make shanks the bigger threat.
@@sitrus34 Shank's is a bigger threat then Mihawk that mostly all understood for the type of role he plays in the story. But in terms of power wise it is not necessary, this being that once Zoro surpassed Mihawk he is kinda done in that area. But Luffy even after surpassing Shanks he is not stopping there he will be going to the very number 1 beating even the Pirate King. That's why putting Mihawk equally to Shank's does not break the plot consistent writing of the series. Luffy will be still climbing the ladder even after he wins Shanks. I don't think we are getting the evil Shanks plot, this is base on what we seen so far. But I do still belief he is gonna die at Blackbeard hands, ever since he gotten the scar from BB the death flag has been on his back.
Shanks feats are easy to see, no need to use our brain. Mihawk feats are not easy to see because people needs to use their brain to understand them.
Shanks became a Yonko, Mihawk made one of the weakest character Buggy a Yonko with over 3.1B bounty after the Warload system was abolished . What is your point?
L Take, Mihawk is a solo act. Shanks is getting carried by his crew.
His bounty is more impressive because that’s his threat alone, while Shanks bounty is because he is the captain of the red haired pirates, not because he is Shanks.
Says who? Your Headcannon?🤣🤣🤣
@@baltzy1616 Logic, something you know nothing about 👍
@@baltzy1616your a shanks fanboy, don't talk about headcannon. Yall bend Oda's storytelling on the daily to push a delusional agenda😂
@@YoureMy_Valentine So Shanks pressing Greenbull and One Tapping Kidd and Killer is Me Bending Oda's Storytelling but you People Scaling Mihawk using his Bounty and his Title Alone To Put him at Top 1 isn't?
Actual Clown Behaviour🤡🤡🤡
@baltzy1616 one piece is heavily story based. It's not like dragonball where power level and feats mean everything. Oda has made it clear mihawk is the strongest swordsman. He has also made it abundantly clear that shanks is also a swordsman. That means that from a narrative standpoint, he is stronger. Zoros dream is not to defeat shanks, the strongest swordman😂
Oda isn't focused on power scaling or feats when he's writing, to clear up misconceptions, he states people's levels through titles
Don't talk about clown behaviour when your a shanks fan who is still in denial of the blatant truth🤡🤡🤡🤡
Mihawk stands at the top of the verse.
With Vista?
@@dhruvroy387 🤣
The lack of power scaling data can be fixed in the remake, making the standings much more straightforward.
Yeah,that's never happening.
@@baltzy1616 Literally, look at the recent anime episode where they showcased Rayleigh's haki, unlike the manga. It happens all the time?
Using pre timeskip to argue lack of haki is weird. In one breathe you say Zoro def had haki against das bones, but then say Nolan’s didn’t?! Also kyrios literally had haki, he passed it to his daughter.
I think the only real fair answer is, we dont know. Mihawk doesnt want to fight shanks because he lost his dominant arm and is mostly likely not fighting like a swordsman anymore. In the war i guess he also didnt want to fight shanks first of all because he is his friend, 2nd it would be quite difficult. Mihawk doesnt want to kill Shanks or doesnt want to be killed by Shanks go hand in hand. They are close in Power like Luffy and Zoro, i think it is a fair parallel.
i think for me when Kaido said that only Haki can trump all other forms of power I thought that Shanks was probably stronger. yeah he was probably talking about haki as it relates to devil fruits but he also said Roger conquered the sea with just haki. imo haki is something that amplifies someone's swordsmanship but isn't the root of it
Dominant hand Headcanon
Nope zoro is inferior to Luffy always has been always will be
Luffy is the mc
@@Mohamadtheman completly missunderstood what he said....
no i didn't i'm just correcting him @@XMVario
The truth is: Shanks may end up with better feats, but Mihawk will always be the one who's supposed to be stronger, even if it doesn't look like it.
That’s delusion and pre school logic level 🤣
Bro what is this Brain-dead logic😂😂😂
And this is why power scalers are worthless
The truth is. It's stated in Mihawk's vivre card that he beat EVERY swordsman until there were none left. Shanks was drawn in an SBS with only swordsmen and Shanks was there. Oda was apart of this. This is all proof that Mihawk > Shanks. Fix your reasoning mate.
@@Hm.mmmm0lol in viver card its also stated that vista is equal to mihawk and that wb is the strongest man even during rodger era but we know both are false
I’m not watching an hour of cope so I’ll just debunk some common arguments for shank>mihawk
“Shanks isn’t a swordsman”
So for this argument, people often bring up king, but the thing with king is that his strongest attacks don’t use a sword.
From what we know about shanks, he only has a sword.
“Shanks is a hakiman”
Shanks has been stated a swordsman various times in databooks.
“Mihawks title only applies to skill”
After he beat mr. 1 in alabasta, zoro states he got stronger. Mihawks title is worlds strongest swordsman.
“Marineford exists”
Mihawk didn’t even use a named attack.
“Oh but kaido and whitebeard”
Kaido and whitebeard are never stated to be wsc or wsm. They are only known as wsc and wss. Meanwhile mihawk is stated to be the strongest swordsman in name and reality.
Oda watching this like: "Ayo WTF is a pure swordsman and a trueswordsman... please write one piece in my place you goat"
Let’s be 💯 the only reason why people get upset 😭 with Mihawk being stronger than shanks is cause of a certain goofy rubber dude lol. Remember shanks and luffy don’t fight their friends this fan joi shanks vs luffy isn’t a thing relax people. But ppl can’t get over zoro fighting someone stronger than the main protagonist idol.
I Swear These People Have Convinced Themselves that Zoro is the Secret Main Protagonist of the Story and Luffy is a Diversion setup by Oda😂😂😂
@@baltzy1616Not at all.
Buy mihawks not. Mihawk is not on shanks level and never will be. Just like zoro is not on luffys level and never will be.
@@gloriousraven1512 For your first sentence... how do you know?
And your second sentence... what correlation does it have with the first?
mihawk >>>>>>
Shanks>>Mihawk>>>>>>>don krieg
@@luffylength vista >mihawk -shanks -roger
@@Thefackerofannusesofc mihawk fan think Vista is something 😂😂o only mihawk fans
Merry Chrysler KOL
Shanks has a whole ass fleet and Land Mihawk just be chilling with no crew lol
-A whole ass fleet which is completely Fodder
- Never actually called Elbaf his territory
Oda always makes shanks appear a cut above the rest. Good clarification KOL
Shanks is a swordsman
Mihawk is world's strongest swordsman
Debate over
No. That's literally braindead thought process.
The strongest boxer isn't gonna beat every person who can box in a fight
A fight isn't limited to boxing. It isn't limited to Swordsmanship
@@Stretch-eq8zb sure. Zoro gonna beat Mihawk to become strongest swordsman, and still be weaker than Shanks who's also a swordman. Makes perfect sense right?
@@rdrummer2 shanks full power will go beyond swordsmanship
He will use his conquerors like thunder and lightning. Which he already does to In the manga anime and game
@@Stretch-eq8zb Shanks is a swordman whether you like it or not. He's at his absolute best when using a sword. Haki or not, he's still a swordsman. And Mihawk is the strongest/greatest swordsman. Meaning he's above Shanks
@rdrummer2 that's not what defines swordsmanship dumbass.
In a fight of 2 to the death. 2 people use their full arsenal's.
Fujitoras gravity abilities can only be channeled through his sword to a limited degree his fruit goes far beyond his swordsmanship
Big mom thr same. Her fruit and combat goes far beyond swordsmanship
Both use their sword very heavily. Shanks conquerors haki isn't depicted as merely an amplifier like other people. It is depicted to have lightning and em wave like properties. It is depicted as an ability in itself beyond his swordsmanship
Do you see now the mental gymnastics that Shanks fans need to use to justify their agenda? Here are some indicators for a losing argument. When you use anime translation instead of the manga, when you need to use made up terms for something that has already been explained by the writer, or when you blatantly dismiss the writer's own words. Regarding sword skill, when has Zoro showcased anything Mihawk taught him regarding sword skill. Mihawk only taught him haki. When has sword skill ever been differentiated from just from overall combat ability of a swordsman? The facts are that Mihawk is a swordsman. Shanks is a swordsman. Mihawk is the strongest and the most skilled swordsman and he is still looking for someone who can surpass Shanks one day.
MERRY CHRISTMAS KOL 🎄❤️
It’s obvious they are equals…when mihawk visited shanks in the party island when he showed Luffys first bounty, shanks asked mihawk: hey Hawkeye did you come to settle the score? Meaning that there was no clear winner between them.or the duels were 2-2 for example,otherwise there is no point in settling a score. Also in the data book it says mihawk waits someone stronger than shanks to challenge him. Shanks is his gold standard as an equal again,that’s why he waits someone stronger because mihawk wants to see if he can push past his and shanks’ level.
That wasn’t the official translation
Yeah they were canonically equals when they fought, but then Shanks lost his arm
There is no equal to the OG Yonkos walking around especially when they can’t easily fodderize Vista you are playing yourself
Yea equal in swordsmanship, then he lost his arm then he got even stronger and became a yonko 8 years later@@jiritakanen1770
@@jiritakanen1770thats a terrible argument shanks lost an arm but then became a yonko 🤦🏽♂️
Keep up the awesome work and videos KOL love the video
This was a good video with a great collection of evidence to athue for a standpoint where we are at in this point in time
This debate is not over yet
Mihawk(Worlds strongest swordsman) is stronger than Shanks(a Swordsman) its that simple, The entire concept behind mihawks character is that hes the worlds strongest swordsman, thats his only reason for existing in the narrative. There is no possible argument to find that favours shanks, only thing you could do is try prove he isnt a swordsman(which is impossible because he is)
He is not because king uses sword and he said I am not a swordsman
all yonko and admiral level characters defeated yonko commander level characters with ease at some point of the story, yet mihawk could not handle vista... sit down kid
@@legendaryrababastop using marineford scaling lol. By that logic crocodile is old whitebeard level
@@re_striker3431"I'm sorry redhair but I won't hold back against mugiwara" did not even scratch Luffy with that dialogue 😂 and that's pre time skip Luffy
@Fire_Lord95 yeah a no haki no named slash was mihawks peak😂😂😂. If mihawk was really trying, luffy would be dead
Unless ur gonna say with a straight face shanks isn't a swordsmen how on earth can u say shanks is stronger 💀💀
Because there's other power systems in place that grant you strength lmao. If you believe Mihawks title of Strongest Swordsman, I gotta tell you that the Strongest Creature said "Haki trumps all." It's honestly Mihawk glaze that he can be one of the strongest while only using sword skill but people don't wanna see it that way I guess
@@MetalSolidCrisis Yup haki trumps all and coating your sword in haki is a swordsman skill...
@@MetalSolidCrisisyou think Mihawk doesn’t use haki at all 💀🤣🤣🤣
Maybe if you watched the fucking video before commenting youd have some idea of story context outside of title dickriding
@@anthonyscrew7162Y’all missing his point… 800 Pound phoenix is a sword skill, and Zoro can use haki with it to strengthen the attack. That does not mean Zoro could perform something like dragon twister or 800 pound phoenix with haki alone. There are things Sword skills can do, that Haki cannot and vice versa.
PS both sides are riding hard cocks in the YT comments, but the Mihawk Stans are even moaning when it slips out lmao. I hate even getting involved in this argument but y’all are stuck in a rut 😂
Kol just went crazy and yall mihawk guys didnt hear a thing
the pie thing is such an obvious/natural way of measuring strength...
From what we’ve seen shanks seems stronger just from his protrayl. oda has butchered mihawks protrayl beacuse how people reacted to his prescence in marineford it did not give me the vibe that anybody there considered him all too great tbh compared to when shanks pulled up. He seems kinda like a second note character not someone who could litterally potentially be the strongest guy right now
mihawk has never, not once, gone all out. for all we know, everything we've seen him do is him using 1% of his real strength. so how has his portrayal been ruined?
@@godemperorofmankind3.091 beacuse he’s been doing nothing, he doesent seem strong. The reason why people calling him a fraud is his protrayl. Obviosuly narritvley he’s stronger than shanks but i don’t beileive anyone reading or watching the manga or anime would generally have the impression Mihawk is stronger at all. And he hasn’t tried but so hasnt shanks.
@@tunnelvision7906 dragon has done nothing and people hype him up as the next big strong guy
@@godemperorofmankind3.091 Ik and that’s why people are starting to call him a fraud too. Dragon doesent come off as strong his lack of action gives the impression he’s a strategist.
What do you mean? The warlords and the marines were all too surprised when he decided to draw his blade. The problem you’re comparing a yonko to a man who became a warlord so he could live a quiet life.
You’re too obsessed with titles while at the same time shanks fans are trying to take away his title as the strongest swordsman. But oda won’t let him
Bruh king compared all three of zoro sword styles saying one sword style or two sword style can’t be stronger…. Zoro admits vs king that one sword style shishisonson is a stronger attack than black rope dragon twister… tf 😂
Was Black rope dragon twister or Lion song Zoro's Strongest Attack back then?
@@baltzy1616 no obviously zoro strongest move is ashura, but that still makes kings point wrong. He argues all of zoro 3 sword style techniques are stronger than his 2 sword techniques which in turn are stronger than his 1 sword techniques. Zoro admits when fighting king that his shishisonson is a way better attack than black rope dragon twister which mind you freed luffy from kaidos jaws, but against king it did nothing.
@@ShadowStyle369 Well Kings Defence is Higher than Kaido's in Kings Flame Form (It's mentioned by Zoro during the Fight)
I count Flame mode King with Marco with his Phoenix Flames as Anomalies that can't be used to measure DMG cause King doesn't eat attacks in his Flame Form but Negates it like a Logia and Marco also nullifies attacks cause he instantly heals whatever DMG he suffered.
I'm pretty sure Lion song didn't hurt King but did Stun him for a bit which gave Zoro a chance to catch his breath cause he was getting bombarded by King and was losing Immense stamina just blocking Kings attacks so it was effective in Stopping Kings onslaught for a bit compared to Dragon Twister not DMG cause King was Clean until he turned his Flames off and got hit with Zoros Bird Attack.
@@baltzy1616 uhh that’s all headcannon ??? Zoro uses shishisonson and king is not fazed at all and then he counter attacks there is no moment of break for Zoro
@@ShadowStyle369 Nice try debate pervert, King did get stunned for a sec and then turns hybrid for for his beak attack,that is a few seconds time cause Zoro cannot think and register the result of his attack at the speed of light.
I was going off of my memory of that Chapter before but you just had to make me Pullup the Chapter.
Is it the fabled video where KoL is actually spitting sense? I thought I'd never see the day
I'm convinced atleast half the comments commented before watching the video.
Which is not suprising lol
Leave it to Oda to turn swordsmanship into a skillset.
It is in real life too
@@PINKCHOCO19 Yea but people aren't incorporating it into everyday self defense or pulling out sword moves without swords
@@JLeviNow True
I think the fact that Rayleigh wasn't in Kaido's top 5 confirms Shanks is stronger thank Mihawk. Because Kaido should have had the chance to see Rayleigh fight at the God Valley war. Thereby him not being in Kaido's Top 5 Implies that he's weaker than rodger. In Contrast Shanks is in Kaido's top 5, which implies shanks is relative to Rodger. Given Mihawk and Rayleigh both held the strongest swordsman title I think similar in strength. It also should be noted mihawk beat rayleigh after he was past his prime. Thereby Shanks > Prime Rayleigh >= Mihawk. Also given the big gap between Luffy and Zoro, its hard for me to imagine zoro beating some relative kaido or shanks, even in the end of series. So Although, Mihawk is insanely strong I don't think hes quite on the level of Rodger, Shanks and Luffy.
Dude. Where is it stated that Rayleigh was the world strongest swordsman?
All this gymnastics. The fact that Garp wasn’t on the list means the list isn’t the most factual. Also, that’s Kaido personal top5, Shanks personal top 5 would definitely include Mihawk.
@@Ashtonflorman1997 true
@@d.p.a.474 I could just be misremembering this, but when he was introduced, I recall someone saying Rayleigh was the previous holder of WSS and Mihawk took it from him.
@@Ashtonflorman1997 I'm pretty sure Garp doesn't have conquers. He wasn't listed on the marine list of conquers users and wasn't in Kaido top conquers list despite being relative to Rodger and being at God valley(so Kaido should have seen him fight). I believe he was able to get on Rodgers level by making his Advance Armament Haki really strong. I theorize Armament Haki strength is proportional to how the tough the body is, which is why Garp spent alot of time punching battle ships. Over time this made his fists really tough. I Also Think, Garp and Kobe Probably have some affinity for Armament Haki that no other characters have. IRL fighters punch rocks and other touch objects to strength their fists perhaps this where Oda got the idea.
I still wonder how the damn serpent really got Shanks Arm. Seemed like hardcore plot armor.
Because Oda wanted an emotional scene. If you want an in story answer, it was probably the only way he could have saved Luffy's life in that moment
@@jpraise6771 Cap to being the only way as he was already an amazing pirate at that time and he clearly had conquers haki and knew how to use it. It’s been shown to have things break their teeth’s when using hardening. So there’s 0 way for him to have not used it to do so. Just 100% plot armor for an emotional scene.
I just personally wanted shanks to have his two arms. It’s kinda bs that it’s gone. Plus with the tech in the show why not get another arm, mechanical or robotic. It’s just really interesting.
Zoro coating 3 three just shows it’s a haki level hidden in Zoro gangy, Thts Impressive honestly.
Could it be that Mihawk’s sword is black because he’s constantly pumping haki into it?
No it's literally called A black blade
Doesn't explain why Ryumas Blade is still Black even after 400 years after Ryumas death.
Mihawks backstory is that he sailed the seas looking for stronger and stronger swordsman to fight until there was none left. But shanks fans logic is that he sailed the seas and looked for pure blooded true swordsman who follow the way of Miyamoto Musashi and don’t involve haki into their fights only true sword skill (which is the way one gracefully elegantly and flashily waves one’s sword around) and who don’t have devil fruits and who actually care about the title. Never seen a fan base cope so hard 😂😂😂
There's literally swordless style techniques, in swordsmanship. In the series Zoro literally uses these techniques.
2. When has it never been a pattern for Oda to use Shanks to demonstrate whatever first. Only for it to be revealed that he's not the only. In fact it's common knowledge on the series, unknown the viewers.
It happend whe Shanks was the firat to introduce Haki, was he the onl. It turns out it's common to thr Marines and Pirates of the New World.
Shanks haki clashed with WB, turns out it's common knowledge amongst Advanced Conqueror's Haki users.
3. It's already been established that Mihawk and Shanks have often clashed in legendary duels, heard across the world. During rhe time Shanks was already known as the observation killer, which is haki. And Mihawk's been the World's Greatest Swordsman.
And Mihawk fought Shanks cause he's a swordman, and Shanks swordmanship is using haki. The same as all the orginal yonko, and top tiers. It's confirmed Roger swordmanship was haki, Rayleigh Swordsmanship is haki, Oden swordsmanship is haki, Shanks Swordsmanshipn is haki, EB infuses his weapon, considered a blade in the series, sometimes in conjunction with his DF. Kaidous using haki for his weapon, considered a sword, Big Mom is using haki with Napolean etc.
And it's established the only way to counter strong haki is with as strong or stronger haki. Yet Mihawk is still the World's Greatest Swordsman, and Shanks isn't, obviously he wasn't defeated by Shanks Haki, some claim is above Mihawks. So that doesn't make sense.
4. Road to Laughtale states is Haki alone enough, not that Haki wasn't required. And there's on 2 confirmed people to accomplish a Permanent Black Blade. So yeah anyone can make a Permanent Black, but how practical is it, can just anyone do it, obviously no.
As it's explained through Ryuma's constant bloodshed forged his permanent Black Blade. Which is similar to Mihawk gaining the postion of World's Greateat Swordsman, being undefeated. Ryuma too was the greatest swordsman of his time. But in general he's was unchallenged as the strongest of his Era, deterring the WG and Pirates. So he's not only one shotting just Swordsman.
Question: what did Mihawk say when Shanks wanted to fight him after losing his arm?? I’ll wait. Shanks is weaker now than he was when Luffy was a kid. A man with one arm isn’t stonger that the world’s greatest swordsman. Stop the cap KOL.
Shanks is cool and all but dang.
Bro Mihawk said that and shanks grabbed his sword ready to prove him wrong that’s Mihawks assumption nothing more lmao mihswk said he wanted to even the score that means shanks was one up…… so in there last fight shanks won but now mihawk thinks shanks isn’t worthy in his opinion
No amount of logic will change these clowns minds so it’s pointless. Also Oda himself said Shanks wasn’t weakened by losing his arm
It’s literally the fact we have nothing saying shanks is stronger than mihawk or even the strongest in the verse. People are literally headcanoning these shanks argument with a bunched of fallacy’s, and because shanks using haki , divine departure on KID!!!!! my guy he waited till kaido was gone to go get the one piece😂😂.
Oda has intentionally kept the Mihawk vs. Shanks vague because they're practically equal. Mihawk probably trumps Shanks in Armament and Observation Haki, and Shanks probably has better Conquer's. Any fight between them is an extreme difficulty fight that'll be decided by the smallest of margins
When did Oda ever say shanks was over mihawk ??
How do shanks fans sit there with a straight face and tell people that zoros dream is only to be stronger than “those who follow the way of a sword” or a “true swordsman”? Y’all act like he miyamoto musashi and lives by the way of the sword himself? He’s a fucking pirate, and was a pirate hunter before that. Which part of those is living the way of a sword like a true swordsman should? You guys make so many fucking excuses and plot holes to the story it’s comedy. You’re actively willing that oda rights in a plot hole with zoros dream to the story so your favorite character can be stronger than another. This fan base copes harder than any I’ve ever seen
I do think shanks is stronger but it’s high diff
It’s not high diff lol. Mihawk is a fraud.
Nah mihawk doesnt even have to beat shanks in a traditional sense to win. In a 1vs1 to the death always Injuries happen. Even in the battle between aokiji and akainu injuries did happen (aokiji lost 1 leg and akainu got multiple scars) and that battle wasnt till death. So what i am saying is, since shanks has only 1 arm left an injury to his 1 arm would make him helpless and instantly loose him the fight. And that the exact reason mihawk has no interest fight shanks. Like he said it isnt even fair with just on arm.
Have no problem with shanks being over mihawks in overall power but people think he can mid deff mihawk because somehow mikawks “don’t have haki or something “. 😂 that’s crazy.
Notice how he changes Mihawks title to fit the agenda 😂
NOOO WHY THIS WAS THE FUNNIEST DEBATE EVER BRO