Rockstar Has RUINED THE CAYO PERICO HEIST In GTA Online! (Nerf Explained In Depth)
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- I discuss the Cayo Perico Heist nerf and how it impacts the game, as well as what I think they could do to improve it going forward.
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Continuously nerfing the heist you marketed as "the biggest heist you've played yet" is a joke only Rockstar could make
They are the biggest Hypocrites ever they added a solo heist but because players were making too much money they started needing the Damn heist + if everything in gta wasn’t so overpriced I think these nerfs wouldn’t be necessary it’s their own fault for adding this into the game to begin with but the problem was the greedy fuckers who constantly do bother but find exploits etc in the game hence the back to back Cayo glitch so now Cockstar* are crying because they’re losing money on their shark card sales it’s not like they need the money anyway Rockstar* games is 1 of the highest earning game companies in the world they bring in so much money annually yet because people don’t want to spend irl money they aren’t getting their deep pockets fed
Awee 😢 and you’re STILL going to purchase gta 6 like millions of other idiots . Hush
@@judahchild2612
A few years after release with a discount on it yes. Not on f*cking release day.
@@EdwardDragon96 if you broke just say that. You not hurting their pockets by limiting yourself. Don't get mad when you buy the game late and some good things get nerfed years later then you cry you are struggling on gta 6
@@lawrencemalone1900
Funny how the second you say you wont be buying R*s next game on release day some R* bootlicker shows up.
No buddy I'm not broke and I dont think Im hurting their pockets.
I'm just not willing to fork out 70$ or more for one of R*s games especially since I suspect it will be filled to the brim with microtransactions like gta online is now right from the start.
There are plenty of games I would rather spend that money on, made by companies that deserve it more.
It's not a heist anymore, its just a contract.
Lets not insult Dr.Dre
Its not a heist, its a contact mission.
I think the one big negative to this is that it’s a GIANT middle finger to anyone who still needed to do this for career progress challenges. Essentially, all of the heist challenges have almost become unobtainable or at the very least, it would take another 10 years of grinding them to achieve.
Only one I’m doing is the Casino Heist one
@@GhillieMaster agreed. Until they nerf it anyway. That’s the last one where the rewards are semi worth the grind. Which now, it’s probably the only one with a goal that can actually be achieved 😂
Its a bigger giant Finger that Pc players dont even get the Career progress to do because they have not updated out game to current version.
@@GhillieMasterdoomsday isnt as bad as it seems. With the heist skip method it saves you plenty of time for the 15 finales
Awee 😢 and you’re STILL going to purchase gta 6 like millions of other idiots .
It's actually been changed in each update after Cayo Perico apart from the Contract...
Los Santos Tuners: Extra camera in the Scope Out mission and Juggernaut was buffed to not be a one-shot kill
Criminal Enterprises: Cooldown when completing solo increased to 3 in-game days and loot chances altered depending on if a new one is started within 3 IRL days
Drug Wars: Bodies can now be spotted by guards
Then the changes made today. Rockstar seriously need to chill out with nerfing this DLC. I was already slowing down when I completed all awards between the Los Santos Tuners and Contract DLC but now, I've completely given up on that heist and have resorted to literally every other business and heist.
i thought juggernaut buff was added with the contract dlc. i remember headshoting jug when i came back to online after the tuners dlc
@@musical_bruh It wasn't added with the Tuners DLC but a few weeks after, I don't remember the exact date. I remember the buff being added before the Contract came out though.
I thought the bodies being spotted was a bug
@@Poke-ladd It probably was but I haven't played Cayo Perico in a while to confirm if it was a bug or an actual update. I'm sure somebody else who regularly plays can confirm that for you.
Theres another change. After leaving rubio’s compound and youre still in your “stealthy” status, youll automatically be detected when leaving once you transition to the island. So like when you go past the gate or when you dive into the water. So solo, you have to grab the sec loot before getting into the compound. Cuz it’s impossible to grab it with the all the guards chasing you around the island
The main issue with having guards spot bodies, is there is no way to hide bodies.
Other than by shooting them anyway, with enough magazines you can move them a few feet. Having anti-stealth mechanics in a game without proper stealth mechanics, sadly its actually typical Rockstar, and very typical Live Service Bullsht.
If they want people to buy more shark cards they should give us stuff worth buying, not just nerf the money.
They're too lazy for that. And also too greedy.
@@robertpaul9799 Too stupid more like.
When I think of the 188 vehicles they removed from sale, or the effort they waste making rubbish cars like the last DLC is full of, when there are dozens of vehicles already in Online that I would like to own but can't. From the Caddy and Lawn Mower to The Skylift and Cargo Plane.
And don't get me started on them not letting us use many special vehicles in missions when that would give us a reason to buy them. Worst of all being Ballistic Armour.
It's amazing how much contradictory BS Rockstar crams into their terrible design. The design of their game is constantly eating itself!
@@Goatcha_M The Caddy can actually be requested from Agent 14 by calling him.
@@TAlim_1994 Only the full size Bunker version, and a Pegasus one isn't what Iw as thinking of.
I want one in my garage, with upgrades.
Engine, Brakes, lights, roof, colour, just copy paste from the Voltic, with a bit of the beater Caddy from Sandy Shores as well.
I'm no longer gonna do Cayo. Unless there's double money, which is highly unlikely that it'll happen, I won't do it again. Thanks, Rockstar... For everything. What a good way to start the anniversary this week...
act 2 b2b babeeeeeyyy
@@bro5846 I might as well start doing those again, but I haven't done act 2 in a few years.
@@SiFiGamer2016just do car dupes bro way better
@@H68323 I've been doing the free car method with Deluxos a while ago, it's much better than doing Cayo and other things.
I stopped grinding it after the criminal enterprises update and did it one last time in Dec. 2022 because I had a pink diamond and cocaine.
The biggest gripe I have is that everything is insanely overpriced. I said this before and I'll say it again if you're gonna rebalance the payouts then you also need to rebalance the prices. I would say if they lower the prices of everything or certain things then this update is justified but I highly doubt they would do so.
"We have heard your complaints and have decided on Realistic pricing for military vehicles, the base line for everything on warstock is now 22 million at trade price"
@@Lone_Wandering0😂😂😂😂😂
@@Lone_Wandering0 In seriousness, if that happened, then realistic payments would also be drastically high, so it would just be more numbers to look at without changing much of anything... probably.
Highly agree with you on this even 1 vehicle just to max it out can cost up to 10Mill + it’s ridiculous imo
You guys know it isn't real money, right? Jeez, play or don't play, it's all imaginary numbers and all 100% free anyway. The crying people do over this game is amazing.
I feel like the fact they did this nerf on the 10th aniversy is a perfect analogy of Rockstar's view of the GTAO community as a whole. It's like thier screaming at us "Fuck you, give us your money."
and u know what people have been saying in other videos in the comments they wont b suprised if they lock the past payouts and setup cost behind gta+
That's EXACTLY my thoughts as well! It's dogshit how so few even see this, it's ridiculous. But sadly, I guarantee GTA6 will break all sale records because the community are such brain dead simps.
@@stuarthough8440😂 I'd be dead shocked if they don't at this point. Just look at all the cars they removed; ...they're now all locked behind GTA+!
Awee 😢 and you’re STILL going to purchase gta 6 like millions of other idiots .
@@judahchild2612
Spambot.
the only issue i have with guards spotting bodies is that more spawn right on top of the bodies when you get the primary target. Theres nothing you can do about that except avoid killing guards until you got the primary. It's needlessly complex and isn't fun to play anymore. Rip Cayo.
It is really not difficult at all if you know when and where to kill the guards, and where the new shift guards spawn. I, too, did find it a pain when the update was first made, but once I got used to it, It became almost ridiculously simple, to the point that I can play on two accounts using two consoles and controllers solo, and still usually complete the Elite Challenge. I have pasted a simple guide below from another comment I left to another user; hopefully it helps you in future runs of the Cayo Perico Heist using the Drainage Tunnel approach.
The most problematic enemy to deal with is by far the Juggernaut, due to his extremely wide patrol route, which gives him the potential to spot many bodies. The Agressor weapon loadout is almost essential to deal with him, as the Assault Shotgun at point-blank range is the only weapon that can reliably kill him before he sounds the alarm or fires his minigun. It is also best to kill him early, while he is near the west side of El Rubio's compound (preferably while he is in the courtyard with the surveillance camera (obviously after destroying the camera first), or near the west side of the large swimming pool area).
As for the other guards, the only ones who ever really give me any problems are the initially spawning guard that patrols the narrow passage between two buildings on the west side of the compound, and the new shift guard that spawns in the same general location after the Primary Target is stolen, as the new shift guard almost always seems to spot the initially spawning guard's dead or unconscious body if he is killed or knocked out, regardless of where it is done. I usually ignore those guards, but if it becomes absolutely necessary to dispatch them (if the initially spawning guard is definitely carrying one of the key cards), I suggest either doing it after collecting the Primary Target in order to dispatch both of them at the same time, or having one player stand at or near the spawn location of the new shift guard (near the southernmost stairs leading to the two buildings where the guards spawn and patrol), as a new shift guard, for some reason, will not actually spawn if there is a player on or near their spawn point.
As for the rest of the mission, it is mostly just necessary to use common sense (kill guards close to each other very quickly, do not kill guards in view of a working surveillance camera, etc.). However, one last, important tip I will give, is that the initially spawning guard who spawns and patrols near the main entrance of the compound should be killed or knocked out only when he stops in front of the westernmost double vehicle doors, and begins to walk south, parallel to English Dave's cage. Dispatching him before, or too long after, he starts walking south will risk his body being spotted by one of two new shift guards who spawn in the same general area.
Watch TGGs guide on which guards to kill and where and it’s super easy. I’m hella late to the party and obviously I chose a garbage time to do this heist because of the nerf 😂 but I’ve completed it twice in the last two days with minimal issues.
Man I hate rockstar
Ong they messed up everything that everyone loved😮💨
Just wait til you see 6.
@@Aff3ct000 Smh I swear
@@Aff3ct000don't you fucking start with that
@@Aff3ct000 Cashmoney dlc 6
Pavel about to pack his bags and go back to Russia lol 😂
Love this! 😂
@@Yoyo_Bro God help him when he does get to Russia 🤣🤣🤣
@@TheHappyLoner He'll definitely need a few bottles of Sinsimito! 😂
@@Yoyo_Bro that's if he can avoid Putin on Arrival LMFAO
@@TheHappyLonernah those two are besties 😂😂😂
The worst part of it all is that R* and T2 knows and is confident that everyone will still play GTAO and will eventually buy GTA6 no matter whatever sh*t has been thrown to us. They're just basically trolling us at this point. The executives at the office are probably laughing by watching the internet get angry, but can do nothing about it.
It will be the GTA community that ends up with the last laugh because if they are soo all this shit in GTAV they will do the same thing in GTAVI so no point in buying the next GTAV imo
@mickylol8070 whole of the gta community should go on one hell of a riot
You can do what i did, quit.
Haven't played online since the last update.
@@mickylol8070yea but millions of idiots are still going to buy gta 6 no matter what . Does it make sense . R* laughs at everyone who complains
No. We CAN do something about. We can stop playing gta online, buying microtransactions and we may not buy gta 6. But this will only work if majority of gta players do it. It's impossible. Like yeah, go and tell millions of gta fans not to play gta online.
Remember guys, if you think you're a disappointment, just remembers that Rockstar did three things.
1. Nerfed one of the best heists so far into the ground that it made the acid lab look good.
2. Introduced GTA+.
3. Removed 200+ vehicles from the game.
They shouldn’t just Shut down gtao no point after all this crap
@@mickylol8070atp gtao xbox 360 and ps3 needs to come back cus I'd pretty much rather play tha then the gtao we got rn🤦🏽♂💯
The list goes on and on:
4. made a terrible defective disappointing disasterous edition of 3 classic gta games for $60
5. Abonaded red dead online community and killed the game with no updates
6. Ported rdr1 for ps4 (it's not even the current gen console!) with NO real changes (the game looks the same and works the same, no remaster or remake, no pc or ps5 version) and priced like it's a brand nea aaa title
7. Allowed massive bugs and glitches in gta online that enabled modders to delete your account or even hack into your real life computer
8. Re-re-released gta 5 on ps5 with NO changes (except yellow plates and more "explosive action")
This is similar to how rooftop rumble started. Started off as the best money-making method gaining $25,000 for a mission that could be done in 30 seconds. Then, it kept receiving nerf after nerf with difficulty buffing until they put that time/money program on all contact missions, races, deathmatches, and even adversary modes that the quicker you finish, the less money you made. Basically, Rooftop Rumble, now the Cayo Perico Heist.
I tink also with nerfing rooftop rumble they added the rapid fire "bug" where any enemy, who has any type of assault rifle, can sometimes fire it like a minigun.
Man those were the days
@@Jordan-_--gn4nn Indeed. I have not played Rooftop Rumble in years, but I remember when my playmates would run it back-to-back-to-back with me, which got quite tedious quite fast, especially when the reduced fast completion payout was introduced, which made me have to spend half the mission reading a book, or doing something else to kill time, while we waited for the payout to increase. I think I will run the mission again one of these days, just to relive the good old days of _Grand Theft Auto Online._
Ahhhh rooftop rumble. I remember I stayed up grinding it all night while my friends slept and the next morning they woke up and we all squaded up and without telling them what I’d been up to all night, I rolled up in a metallic Torino red Entity XF and they were all like BROOOOO. Good times.
You forgot to include the first nerf, the juggernaut used to be a 1 shot headshot if you did the optimal armor shipment prep. But yea, this is some BS that needs to be reverted.
True!
You didn’t need to destroy armor shipments to make the juggernaut a one shot kill to the head
Rockstar removing NPCs on boats spawning behind the compound that you could shoot and escape off the island quickly was a nerf, making the juggernaut harder to kill was a nerf, setting up extra cameras throughout the island was a nerf, the cooldown, guards seeing dead bodies and both hits to the payouts and loot values are nerfs. At this rate Rockstar just needs to remove Cayo Perico entirely because they've completed gutted that heist.
@@eurybiaball63 I remember you could run up behind him and pistol-whip him back when it first came out. Armour shipments were only for the standard grunts walking around (although it didnt change much cos most people went for headshots anyway).
it's just 2 shots with the shotty, it's not that big of a deal xD
The GTA Online Community: Let's hope we're not disappointed and we get something good for the Online anniversary.
Rockstar: Hold my beer...
*pisswasser
@@StuartLugsdenmore like shitwater at this point
Awee 😢 and you’re STILL going to purchase gta 6 like millions of other idiots .
@@WilliPhantom Besides that, who tf still doesn't have money in GTA in 2023? If you are a vet still grinding in 2023 you definitely need intense grass touching and a cure for that addiction.
Skill issue nerf grinding and rebuff the lazer lol
I feel for a while they’ve wanted to push Diamond Casino as the flagship heist by continuously nerfing Cayo Perico
i agree. i don’t think rockstar was expecting cayo to become such a successful heist to the point (some) people were ONLY grinding cayo. so now they are trying to nerf it so badly to the point no one plays it, which they’ve successful done.
Take 2 has been wanting to push GTA+ as the new best money-making method. Chances are there will be heist events that increase money just for GTA+ subscribers. This would mean they can reach the cap without triggering a no-pay bug while the rest of us peasants get kicked in the teeth.
@@BluewindGamingyeah i agree. it was a great heist especially for solo players
@@kiasms22tbh, as a 300lvl (all legit by grinding) I got tired after doing same mission 300th time, to buy another car that just looks different to another. Installed some basic mods, never looked bad. After all years, grinding, playing all u get is another nerf -> more grinding. That's enough. Though i never grief others, I just glitch money.
@@waki0069 i got tired of cayo aswell! after grinding it for a while i took a break and only did it to help friends. it is very repetitive and boring, but a great money maker especially for new solo players
Its like rockstar wants people to leave gta which it worked well against me.
It’s clear they don’t care about the players at all greedy bastards just want to keep feeding their pockets
IMO Rockstar felt instant regret after they released Cayo. It had to kill shark card sales.
oh they definitely did. but what did they expect? a heist you can do solo, make well over 1.3mil, and there’s only 5 mandatory preps. they should of known people were going to abuse the hell out of it and only grind that to make money
Yeah exactly they should have known that people were just going to spam Cayo perico heist and not anything else, but I guess they didn’t think that through
Replay glitch is the only fair strategy now
I agree. But with the pink diamond, of course.
@robertpaul9799 is the replay glitch for cayo the same as the replay glitch for bogdan?
If it is...When should i close the game?
"Closing" the game means you play console, and console requires 2 people. On pc it's just timing with pulling the internet out while having elite challenge on.
@pawel0s1 yes. You could do the same thing with 2 people on console for Bogdan which is why im asking if its the same here.
Yea it's just about the timing and elite challenge on. But may be different time window on console.
I am so glad i grinded the living crap out of Cayo when it first launched and i will never have to worry about money in this game ever again. Still it doesn't excuse these scummy tactics R* has been pulling off for years now. This is why GTA needs comptetition, that is the only way R* will fully listen to feedback.
Also, after this nerf, from now on i personally support and respect money glitches no matter how severe they are. They deserved it for destroying this heist entirely
Honestly I agree with you they have absolutely ruined Cayo heist with this tbh I’d be surprised if people even bother to play the cayo heist after this it seems like a ridiculous thing to do now especially step spend millions on a submarine step 2. Pay $100000 to start the heist step 3 spend an hour or more completing set ups and preps step 4 go to Cayo island etc get to the compound all to get fked over by the guards for keycards
zorgapb4691 we can also thank the fanboys for this too
If you're good at the game, you don't need this heist to make money. Supporting glitches because people are too lazy or incompetent to play the game as intended is just stupid. I've only ran this heist a handful of time and own everything in the game and have more money than I know what to do with. All this crying over a 25% cut in a payout shows how pathetic this community truly is.
@@The_El_Guapo Theres no "skill or being good at this game". If you want monwy in this game you grind 24/7, but people have actual shit to do irl not grinding a video game 24/7, video games should be made for having fun not to waste your life on it.
@luminaaaaa sounds like something someone with no skill would say. You have to grind 24/7 to make money? 🤣🤣🤣. You need to get better at this game.
This is perhaps the final straw of the Cayo Perico Heist for me as a Solo Player and I'm not doing the Cayo Teir 4 Challenge and not the prize a Dick car. 🤪
Not the Winky 💀
Cockstar*are just assholes
I don't want to play with other players, they're to unreliable. Why is Rockstar trying to force people into group play? It makes no sense to me.
It’s not that at all this is just a fking cover up the real intention here is Cayo heist was so popular and people started glitching/ exploiting it it started affecting shark cards and GTA+ sales R* said no fk you all we can’t allow this we’re so greedy we’re going to keep screwing you out all over because you’re screwing us with billions of in game money by doing replay glitches duplicates etc they nerfed everything GTA might as well be shut tf down
_Super_Hans its cause they dont have brains in their heads
It does for them. Higher chances of failing, you get frustrated and buy their stupid shark cards and gta+. Those fools only see $$$ in front of them!
Rockstar games shouldn’t be forcing us to be playing as group at all. If we want to play solo, they should allow us
I honestly would have been accepting of the Payout Nerf - IF at the same time they removed the 72 hour cooldown on the Primary Target rates and reverted it to the pre-Criminal Enterprises nerfs. At least then it would be a straight-forward payout nerf and none of the "fuck you for playing more than once a week" screwing over of the Primary Target rates.
Also - the guards being able to detect bodies. That has to go, even though it was always intended to be the case from the datamine but took them 2 years to fix. Guards being able raise an alaram over dead allies in stealth gameplay is only acceptable if the player can move bodies themselves out of other guards sight. The ONLY way a team of players can be expected to acquire the second keycard is to wait for the player getting the Primary Target to exit the vault, since that triggers a second shift of guards to spawn.
The whole things become a mess.
Ten years of loyalty, and we get this shit I say, boycott Rockstar
i agree turn it into another bud light n target
Awee 😢 and you’re STILL going to purchase gta 6 like millions of other idiots .
@@judahchild2612 no complet boycott no gtaVI
No Rockstar games period, boycott it worked with bud light
@@owenhalverson9119 no it didnt broski
this nerf is so unnecessary because of how much shit costs in GTA
how are my irl taxes easier to handle than a fucking game R*
And the mission pay out of the doomsday heist is still shit when you consider the fact that you’re saving the world
Great job rockstar👍
The guards seeing bodies nerf wouldn’t be so bad if there wasn’t a new batch of guards spawn in after you get the primary loot. Just makes it impossible to take any guards out without the risk of being spotted
According to mockstar, they nerfed Cayo to make all the activities more balanced, yet they haven't increased payouts for the original contact missions, races adversary modes etc.. It's just mockstar doing what they do best... pissing off the player base.
"Mockstar" 😂😂😂😂
Rockstar has disappointed me over the last few years with this heist. If they didn’t want us to have such a big payout, then why weren’t they low in the first place?
Its infuriating that they effectively made it impossible to do a full Stealth mission on Cayo because since the guards spot bodies the moment you take the main objective more Guards will spawn in sometimes right next to the bodies causing the compound to enter full alert and guards with heading towards you very quickly. and unless you came in through the drainage pipe which gives you scuba gear with infinite oxygen so you can enter the ocean after leaving the compound and swim deep down fast before el Rubios guards and his helicopter tears you to bloody bits. you will have an army breathing down your neck if you did not do the air support and armor and weapons sabotage missions.
There's a minimalist path you can take through the drain pipe, get 2ndaries first if you have someone else, then primary and dip
It's still possible to fully stealth it by only taking guards around the edges of the compound, grabbing secondary targets first, then running to the closest exit as soon as you grab the primary target before the additional guards spot the bodies.
Outside, the fastest way to go escape is by grabbing a bike and jumping off and swimming out at the top left corner that has the shortest swimming distance for the game to consider you to have escaped. Even if you are spotted by then, you can go underwater to avoid the enemy fire.
It takes a lot of coordination but it's possible.
@@GTAVictor9128 I am aware of the method you are referring to, but if one knows what to do and when to do it, it actually requires next to no coordination at all if the Drainage Tunnel approach is used. In fact, if I am playing with an inexperienced player, I usually ask them to follow me and do absolutely nothing other than unlocking the keycard doors and collecting loot, while I essentially complete the entire Heist solo.
The most problematic enemy to deal with is by far the Juggernaut, due to his extremely wide patrol route, which gives him the potential to spot many bodies. The Agressor weapon loadout is almost essential to deal with him, as the Assault Shotgun at point-blank range is the only weapon that can reliably kill him before he sounds the alarm or fires his minigun. It is also best to kill him early, while he is near the west side of El Rubio's compound (preferably while he is in the courtyard with the surveillance camera (obviously after destroying the camera first), or near the west side of the large swimming pool area).
As for the other guards, the only ones who ever really give me any problems are the initially spawning guard that patrols the narrow passage between two buildings on the west side of the compound, and the new shift guard that spawns in the same general location after the Primary Target is stolen, as the new shift guard almost always seems to spot the initially spawning guard's dead or unconscious body if he is killed or knocked out, regardless of where it is done. I usually ignore those guards, but if it becomes absolutely necessary to dispatch them (if the initially spawning guard is definitely carrying one of the key cards), I suggest either doing it after collecting the Primary Target in order to dispatch both of them at the same time, or having one player stand at or near the spawn location of the new shift guard (near the southernmost stairs leading to the two buildings where the guards spawn and patrol), as a new shift guard, for some reason, will not actually spawn if there is a player on or near their spawn point.
As for the rest of the mission, it is mostly just necessary to use common sense (kill guards close to each other very quickly, do not kill guards in view of a working surveillance camera, etc.). However, one last, important tip I will give, is that the initially spawning guard who spawns and patrols near the main entrance of the compound should be killed or knocked out only when he stops in front of the westernmost double vehicle doors, and begins to walk south, parallel to English Dave's cage. Dispatching him before, or too long after, he starts walking south will risk his body being spotted by one of two new shift guards who spawn in the same general area.
Hopefully my guide has made it easier for you or anyone else reading this comment to complete the Heist.
@@TAlim_1994
You can actually easily "cheese" killing the jug by running into him and pushing him, knocking him over to the ground and the spraying him while he's on the ground and unable to retaliate.
I've been able to pull this off even with the AP pistol from the Marksman loadout, but I only resort to killing the jug if the RNG is particularly bad and the usual guards don't drop key cards and gate keys.
@@GTAVictor9128 You obviously seem to prefer a slightly different strategy than I do, which is fair enough. I usually play with the implicit assumption that I will be either playing with an inexperienced player, or by myself on two accounts, and I have refined my strategy to suit this assumption, since it still would work even if I play with experienced players. I used to use the Conspirator weapon loadout, and did not kill the Juggernaut prior to the seeing bodies update, but since that update I find that killing him is the easiest way to avoid any chance of getting alerted due to a body being found, and since it is so easy to kill him with the Assault Shotgun, I do not see any reason why I should not. I presume that you usually play with more experienced players?
This why I cant fucking play this game without a mod menu, the money grind is way to crazy. I hate modding money but im not wasting my life grinding.
If you're going to do that please just quit the game. We don't want you playing Grand Theft Auto Online.
@@mattallredif your just gonna tell people what to do with their game just quit the game. we don't want people like you playing Grand theft auto online
@@BluewindGaming For the same reason it's never okay to shoplift even if inflation is high. Even if you get away with it, the people who suffer are the ones who play fair, and it does nothing to address the actual problem. If we just assume cheating is the norm, then GTA6 will be 10x worse than GTA5. We'll get worse payouts and more expensive vehicles, and obviously they'll increase the price of Shark Cards. Everything will be based around the idea that players cheat, and players that don't cheat will be forced to pay up.
It's your fault the game is the way it is. I played fair. I bought my businesses and vehicles with legitimately earned money. I had fun doing it, because that is what the game entails, and I like the game. I never bought a single Shark Card in the 10 years I've played and I have never cheated.
You people have ruined the game. It's your fault these changes keep being made, and the people who are made to suffer are the ones who just want to play a game as it was intended to be played. We went from a great online mode in GTAIV to this predatory system in GTAV because of people like you.
Just about any action they take to prevent similar behavior in GTA6 is alright with me. I hope more mod menu creators are sued. I hope they take more serious legal action against people who sell and use them. I hope they financially ruin and even imprison these people. The game is completely fucked on PC and the last thing I want is that becoming normal on console. Even though I have a fairly high-end PC, I refuse to play GTAV on it and stick to console.
If they can't guarantee that people like you are totally barred from this type of behavior in GTAVI, fuck it, I just won't play. If they care that little about their actual fans, the integrity of the game they create, and the people who appreciate the game for what it is, then I just won't buy the game. Rockstar can make a choice. Me or you.
@@mattallred😂😂😂😂😂 I agree ☝️ but also your response at the end there R* will choose themselves always 😂so yh they don’t care about the players or fan base because both players and the company keep screwing each other 😂
Next Cayo nerf Rockstar will replace all guards with juggernauts and make El Rubio drive around the island . They really do hate the Cayo Perico heist .
Also Rubio will put a display on his Vapid Winky connected to the vault so he'll check every 10 seconds that no one is in the vault, you know when he says about the vault? One day you will be spotted even in it😂
They might as well shut the whole game down at this point
lockyrichardson im not being nasty but dont give them ideas
@@stuarthough8440 lmfao
I don't understand why they did this
I do cause they love screwing the GTA community but they still play it so R* is laughing at them
Not just that the community is also screwing R* with replay glitches/ exploits dupes etc so it’s basically you keep screwing us we gonna screw you back but it’s going to be x100000000 times worse because they are such a greedy company that only care about their own profits nothing more
Because they'd rather have us pay 60$ for Shark cards and play the game maybe 15 hours a week than NOT pay them any money and grind all week long. They're greedy bastards and I fear what's to come in GTA VI Online.
A bit late, but in terms of why they did all the nerfs is bcoz Cayo was actually decent option for players who did not want to spend 6-8 hours for peanuts (that can easily get fucked by griefers lol). Anyone could grind the heist and make excellent money per hour solo which made having money to buy fun stuff great.
At least it benefits me,
And me only 😅
You can finally live in peace
How come you have infinite source of money and how come your guards are d*mb as rock?
A lot of these changes didnt bother me too much, ive found a work around for everything so far. One thing ive notice along with everything else mentioned is that, once you leave the compound, youll be automatically detected when you get onto the island. So like after the gate to the right of the big main door. Or diving into the water. “Seems like el rubio is getting in his helicopter”
Instead of sub for infiltration i use longfin now. Grab all the sec loot from the main dock. If there isnt enough to fill the bag then check the hanger at the airstrip. (Dont kill anyone at the maindock, the driver swings around the building right back across the dock so chill in the water till he passes)
After filling bags head to the drainage tunnel. If you have max health and lung capacity you shouldnt need a rebreather.
In the compound i just head left and bee line it thru the middle, waiting for the guard to turn away from the stairs and walk to the gate. I usually knock out all 3 personal body guards looking for the gate key. If they dont have it ill wait for the jugg to come up the stairs and when he turns left ill use the assault shotgun to take him out. Just to be safe
After that i leave, shoot the one guy near the bike and drive off the cliff on the left, past the heli, touch the mine. Im out in a min.
Even the wasted time; driving to the airstrip and waiting for the jugg. It only takes me 12 mins at most to do it all. Still getting me the elite challenge
All they had to do was boost gold by 30% and nobody would blink an eye
In fact, if anything, the should've boosted the Tequila bottle and other lower tier loot, while nerfing the higher tier loot.
Instead, it's the other way around.
I never really cared for Cayo, and I can see why they pulled this change. But the way they changed it is definitely a really terrible way of doing it. If you have to go out of your way to make deterrents against players doing certain things, that's a sign it shouldn't exist in the first place.
They went too far with decreasing the payouts of loot stashes. All the other ones (increased cooldown, various primaries spawn based on start time of heist, restoration of sight to the guards), I could live with.
Then again, I haven’t really made any new attempts to Cayo after they made all businesses playable in any session type.
It seems like Rockstar doesn’t want us playing this heist anymore.
The whole point of rockstar nerfing this heist was to apparently “balance”😂the game and encourage solo players to play with other players but really it doesn’t do any of those things, it only encourages cheating and exploiting😂
Man cayo perico was the goat back then but now it’s not even worth doing it anymore
Sinsimito + secondary targets = roughly 750k right?
-100k for setup
-50k (I think) for pavels cut, 600k
For a solo player you're better off doing the auto shop contracts, especially if there's union depository
Yh GTAO is just not fun anymore tbh it’s just same old shit each week and now the killed Cayo heist
-75k becouse madrazo takes around 10%
Rockstar will probably make Cayo 1.5x increase for gta + members now
Do you think I’m stupid enough to fall for GTA Plus? Absolutely NOT.
@@NFSBeast2365 I’d never buy that crap I don’t even wanna get gta 6 because the same will happen
I stopped doing CAYO when they fixed the single player gold glitch. There were also 50% boosts as weekly bonuses occasionally. I made about 2.3M solo on various times. Good thing I grinded this for 300M at the time.
Never fixed it tho
Basement glitch still works
"Greed knows no limit"
This company will do anything to make sure everyone gives into that decrepit m word.
El Rubio certainly had enough of our bs 😂
Why does rockstar hate the heist that they made so much??
Two words: Strauss. Zelnick
Shark card sales and GTA+
This is the worst possible thing they could have done at this point they are so dumb if they think this will get people buying Sharkcards and GTA+ they are doing the complete opposite really stupid
Because the gta community found an exploit where you can constantly replay the heist and make stupid amounts of money which tbh I don’t blame them because Cayo was a legit way to make good money but now it’s just dead and because it effects shark card and GTA + sales they think this is the best way to rectify it 🤬🤬🤬🤬😂😂😂😂🤦♂️
Step One: Rockstar makes a fun mode or mission or activity where players can diversify their gameplay and make good money.
Step Two: Rockstar realizes their error... they made a more preferable option than just paying Rockstar for shark cards.
Step Three: Rockstar nerfs the activity viciously over and over into the ground to make it not fun or worth doing.
Before Cayo Perico, it was the Casino gambling. And probably dozens more activities before or even in between. Take the incentive out of it and incentivize more "efficient" grind paths.
Rockstar adds something fun and worth playing the game again
Rockstar after a few months: wait a minute, people HAVE FUN ON OUR GAME?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!
I was a Cayo Perico junkie... but as the nerfs and tweets keep happening... I was doing the Cayo heists less and less to the point I don't do them anymore...
Rockstar being concerned about players making 1-2 mil from a single heist when 2-3 seperate Items In the game cost over 10 mil nowadays STUPID
The nerf was stupid, but it's still worth soloing. Remember that playing with randos is still worse. Besides, the lowest you can make is 900k, which is still a pretty decent amount when you take into consideration that you can clear this heist in under 15 minutes without killing anyone. Plus, the setup missions can be done insanely fast.
-scope out the hangar secondary loot, or just do the room glitch when doing the actual heist.
-rush to communications tower, hack, get caught, exit.
-Only do the torch, fingerprints, glass cutter/vault code part of the setup.
-do the longfin setup.
-Do the weapon load out of your choice. Buy suppressors.
-Start heist. Make sure you enter the compound via the underwater tunnel, and exit by jumping in the ocean and swimming underwater to safety.
For me personally, the worst part about this change to the Cayo Perico Heist is by far the fact that the setup cost has been quadrupled. I am an experienced player with multiple avenues for making money, and I have almost never done the Cayo Perico Heist solo (or at least with only one account in the game) since the cooldown was increased. I mostly do that Heist nowadays to help my low level friends and other low level players earn money faster, or I will play solo on two accounts using two consoles, with the other account usually being a friend's account that they have entrusted to me to help them earn money for them, and in both cases I will usually give the other player/account the maximum 85% cut. I usually make sure there are at least three lots of Gold in El Rubio's compound during the scoping Prep, and will reset the Heist if necessary until there are. Now however, with the increased Setup fee, combined with the reduction of the Primary Target value (unless it is the Panther or Pink Diamond), I am very likely to actually lose money helping my friends or other players make money if I have to reset more than one time, and give them 85% cut.
Cockstar be like:
Patching the cayo perico glitches: 🤮
Nerfing the heist instead: 😃
It’s not so bad of a nerf IF you get the pink diamond and just do the replay glitch.
But it sucks for people who play it regularly
Because of this ima start doing the replay glitch
they are definiately making glitches and exploits more attractive.
@@sinistan1002 maybe they want to find and ban replay glitchers (i used to be one)🤔
@@musical_bruh maybe who knows I haven't ever done that replay stuff myself not for cayo at least, i've done the auto shop replay ud glitch though but they patched that. what if someone has gta+ though and does it. surely they won't do anything to a paying gta+ subscriber ? 😄
I still have the panther statue in my cayo 😂
@@sinistan1002you would be surprised they don’t care about the players just filling their pockets
I think you forgot to mention a past nerf where they made the juggernaut harder to kill. In any case, I always felt that Cayo Perico was more trouble than it was worth when comparing time spent to set up with with the heist difficulty which impacts the overall reward. That is now more true than ever.
I don't really think the heist necessarily ever needed to be nerfed rather make other heists more viable and possibly make act 3 of doomsday heist pay out the most based on being the most annoying. Also how is it that saving the world pays less then robbing from an island.
The reason why rockstar doesn't give you $hit for saving the world is because it's a game with bad guys in it it's not meant to be a heroic type game now idk why they would add that doomsday heist but yeah that's why... I think
I can’t understand why people are agreeing with R* saying the $ reward is OP, considering the price of everything in the game, it really doesn’t pay that well. Any decent car or anything on warstock worth buying will take at LEAST one run of cayo to pay for it. If you think about it, in a game called grand theft auto, where you can’t steal any new or interesting cars (shocker considering the name of the fucking franchise) you have to sneak onto a druglords private island on a submarine (worth 2.2 million + sparrow for prep at 1.8 million) for a reward a little over 1 million if done solo, it takes multiple runs to even pay for itself and it’s not like the prep is effortless and can be done in 5 minutes But sure, gotta grind your loyal playerbase of 10 years down enough for them to give in and by shark cards somehow.
The cooldown and buffed guards was enough
Same thing happened to rooftop rumble
Quick tip for everyone. Steal the main objective first then kill the second shift of guards. That way you won’t alert anyone
Cayo Perico being the best activity to make money is also a symptom of Rockstar refusing to make other things worthwhile grinding. So these nerfs just leave a bad taste since there is no compensation or motivation for any of the other heists.
Exactly this. But they know they can get away with it so they do it anyway. Lol. Bet all my money it'll be like that in VI.
Oh boy! Another slap across my face! Thank you so much rockstar!!😊
They fucking nerf the Payout but they can't nerf some of the Guards that have literal fucking aimbot that gives you Suicidal thoughts
so they added a dlc last year to help solo players but now their punishing you for it? 😭😭 make your mind up rockstar
As a solo player, Cayo has been dead to me for a while. Just another thing I won't be doing for the careers challenge. Not that I really give a toss.
but you still play the game though
Oh well, we still have the Dre contract
(Inb4 they start nerfing the Dre contract)
that some of us cant ecen finish because there is a bug in the Nightlife Leak finale, infinite loading screen
The Dr Dre contract isn't even intended to be replayable or at least thats how I personally feel as its mostly focused more on the story rather than it being a Money making activity like cayo, so by doing it as ur main way of making money; ur basically Just burning urself out as ur constantly doing the same missions over and over again..
If you go into the bedroom in the penthouse and come back to the elevator you won't get stuck
@@Kadett-rr7ryglad i’m not the only one experiencing that. it’s so annoying
Rockstar: _"The Cayo Perico Heist is unique because you can complete the heist all by yourself! No helpers? No problem!"_
Players: < _proceed to take advantage of the fact that Cayo Perico can be completed solo_ >
Rockstar: *_"How dare you play Cayo Perico by yourself! We're slashing the payouts and making stealth borderline impossible!"_*
At this point, Rockstar should just come clean and admit they are nerfing Cayo Perico into the ground because they realized far too late that it became the meta money-making method in GTA Online and subsequently destroyed all incentive for players to buy Shark Cards.
Glad I stopped playing this garbage mode. Can’t just hop on and make some easy money w cayo gotta do all this bullshit
The Cayo Perico heist has become my second hated due to the jank factor. Ever since they made it to where the guards you kill don't despawn it's almost a guaranteed fail every run. I just kill 2 of the guards with the red cones in hopes one of them will drop the gate keys. And if by some miracle they do there's always a 50% chance a guard will spawn in the cellar behind a door you can't even access and ruin the whole run.
I don't even bother with 2 or more players because the jank factor jumps to 100%, we'll do a perfect run without killing any guards and we'll all be in positions where we can't be seen and the alarm will go off, no idea why it just happens, it's the reason why the award for finishing the Cayo Perico heist with 4 players is still unfinished because the frustration just isn't worth it.
Happy 10th anniversary, you filthy animals!
I tried a cayo today which was on hard mode. Primary target was the ruby necklace which only gave me 770k and my secondary targets i grabbed 1 cocaine and filled the rest with weed which was only around 410k. The extra vault upstairs gave me around 60k. Elite challenge gave me 100k. So after the fencing and pavel fee, I have 1.24 million. Before the nerf on hard, this would have been at least 1.6 mil, so they fr robbed us of 3-400k extra
Yup 👍 thats what happens unfortunately the good legitimate people suffer
@@mickylol8070yep. The stupid "transaction pending" bug even happened to me when I won the casino podium vehicle for the first time. Sent a ticket to Rockstar with a gif of me stuck in the transaction pending AND with the wheel clearly showing me winning. Then they sent me the same message twice and I lost what little respect I have of them
sad how rockstar keeps ruining this heist. i’m glad i don’t need money, was able to grind cayo when it was actually a decent heist and didn’t have all of these dumb nerfs
People weren't buying enough shark cards. That's all this nerf tells me. Take 2 and Rock* CEOs did make mad bank just from those alone. Pretty much stands to reason they don't want players making too much free cash. And the price to buy stuff in game is already outrageous...
How about change nothing, If I have to pay Millions for junky cars then let me make millions.
Rockstar/Take Two is about to be like Violation/Deep Silver if they don’t there 💩 together...
rockstar is really going for one the worst company awards 💀 crazy to think this is the same company that has made amazing games like gta 4, bully, gta san andreas, gta vice city, rdr1, and rdr2. honestly very sad.
i think they already have to b honest with u
It's not the same company. A whole new organization focused only on money has taken their place.
The fact he said "Rockstar is upset with us using the heist to make money" i agree but whats crazy is that they rlly dont want us making money that we can use to enjoy the game without spending 6 hours to buy one car an fully mod it 🤔 smfh
Pavel not going to be happy about this
Never had a problem with bodies being spotted, we always just kill all the guards that are in our line of sight. And we always take out the juggernaut. Same when I do it solo
I haven't completed a heist in since the first nerf and don't think I'll do another anytime soon
Whenever something was changed for the worse in GTAO everyone always said "Its not R*, its Take Two making them do it." I don't think it was ever TakeTwo, we all just loved R* so much we didn't want to believe they'd do shit like this to their players. When you look at someone through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags.
I always disagreed with the Cayo nerfs, if they wanted us to do other activities maybe they should make them *worth* doing instead of nerfing the only good one. When everything in GTAO is so hyper inflated, nerfing one of the only ways to keep up without micromanaging several businesses is the worst decision possible. But hey, gotta sell those shark cards. Fucking shark cards, might as well've called them "predatory cards" cause that's what they are.
Cant help but feel like there’s a new person running the online division if that makes sense? Sure it was bad an all before San Andreas Mercenaries but its almost as if someone worse has stepped in and has relentlessly fucked us over at every turn. Before San An Mercenaries, it felt like there was *some* mercy, but now there’s only ruthlessness.
All these cun*s care about is $ in their pockets nothing else
This is not ok in anyway....they are doing us super dirty.
I think the nerf is rly a slap in the face for all players, they don't want use the replay glitch. Well it's not hard to kill the guards to get the keycode, i can kill any guard without need to kill the Jugg, you should kill the guards just on the right spot, where the Jugger can't detect the dead bodys. I've alrdy made a video about how you kill any guard if you going for the keys. And i've find out now how you kill the both other guards which are inside the Jugger path route, without he can't see them. I've just investigate some hours to find that out. I've watched the patroul path of any guard, the viewcones, and after getting the prime loot how many guards spawn and if they have a patrol path. Well it's just a investigate work, to find that out. 😅
yeah the heist is still doable, it’s just very tedious. killing jug solo is still possible as well, just gotta have the assault load out. it’s probably harder taking out jug now since this new nerf though, will just have to wait and see
But when the player counts increase, you have to pay more percentages. Leaving you with a maximum of 55%. I always take one other person and pay them 15% leaving me with 85%
Rockstar the next update: We've removed the cayo all together
I lost my account of 8 years, stopped for a year & just created a new PsN inorder to play this... I started playing online when i was 12 & now I'm 22 & always busy!! Running cayo on my day off allowed me to build up my account again... I'm not buying shark cards & I'm most definitely not going to invite players who will more than likely step on my flow... Damn it R*
I think they were too far with the original nerf. if the cooldown applied to the finale, yea sure. wouldve still been annoyed but that gameplay loop would be tolerable; do the heist, pay for hard mode, do the rest whenever, but now hard mode is basically off the table for me to begin with, and the constant things they kept on breaking with each update... its just not possible realistically.
And thats ignoring that the entire premise of the heist complaints were that they were bored with it? as if they, the player, didnt have the ability to choose alternate approaches to the heist, or even chosen to do other activities that they find more fun?? Before cayo I would grind exclusively import export, have over 100mil total profit from that, cayo comes out and I slowly transition to doing that for a while, but sometimes going back to import export, sometimes playing the event week bonuses if they were good. Not sure why people felt so against cayo, gameplay wise it was also my favourite and now I cant play it at all. epic
I originally thought that it was good that it got a nerf with the cooldown, but this is just insanity…
Yeah the cooldown didn’t really affect the heist, but this nerf is just horrible
The dead bodies being spotted is what killed it for me. Coupled with the fact that its buggy as hell even if you do it correctly, it's nothing but stress and it isn't worth it.
The dead bodies being spotted is easy as shit to deal with.
It was still possible to fully stealth it even with that change. Compared to Payday 2 stealth, it still felt trivial.
But this nerf was the final straw for me.
@@edgaraf9411 Agreed. If you know when and where to kill the guards, it is still easy. Admittedly, it took me a few weeks after the change to get used to it and devise a new strategy, but once one does get used to it, it is extremely easy, to the point that I can play on two accounts using two consoles and controllers solo, and still usually complete the Elite Challenge. I actually really like the change that made the guards spot bodies, as it adds realism, though I do wish it was possible to move bodies like you can in _Red Dead Redemption 2._ This most recent change though, is one step too far, particularly the quadrupling of the setup fee. For the past few years, I usually do The Cayo Perico Heist to help low level or inexperienced players earn money quickly, so I usually give the other player maximum cut, and usually reset the Heist if there are less than three lots of gold in El Rubio's compound. However, with the increased setup fee, I stand to actually lose money if I have to reset more than one time and take minimum cut.
So glad i quit this game a while ago. Its like deleting twitter and never going back.
Cayo gets nerfed into the ground.
Diamond Casino: ah crap, here we go again.
What’s also sad is that I used to be able to do glitches into the golden rooms to get more money but they remove that she can no longer glitch into the rooms which is annoying😢
I want a refund for my kosatka lol
You can't do the heist stealth now because if you kill the guards they automatically spotted?
Man every RUclipsr including Ghillie was weirdly supportive of the huge initial cooldown nerf for solo players. Now it’s honestly kinda funny to see the heist get nerfed over and over again until they’re forced to acknowledge it’s now just not worth it for the effort it now takes especially as a solo player.
Like I said I was cool with 1 nerf, not 3
Some of the members in my gaming clan had GTA+ and after I shared this, they all canceled it.
I’m agreeing with you on this one. It’s too far. Gives me a weird, left field idea that they’re targeting solo players because we aren’t in a group and trying to keep up or care about how others view or current acquisitions so far. Yeah, they don’t make money off me from shark cards, however, I’ve not only bought every iteration across 3 consoles, but I’ve bought the game for close family and friends as well. Supported their work through excellent reviews since the original GTA. Y’all know, the top down version released in the late 90’s 😂 Bought every game since across multiple platforms. Bought the mobiles and even that recent horrible relaunch of 3, Vice, and SA. Had fun experiencing the old games, but they were not well programmed. Total ham fist on that one… ✌️
They don't care. All they want is your money. If you won't buy shark cards regularly and gta+ then f*ck you! This is today's R* and T2.
Generally this is why I stopped playing GTA online.
1. There is not much substance for someone like me who plays mainly solo, Cayo at least gave me a heist and strong money making ways. Depending on my luck I could get a Cayo done in about an hour.
2. The whole point of Cayo was to offer Solo players a heist they could grind solo. If I had to guess Rockstar saw how quickly players were making money, and had to nerf it, as it was cutting into their Shark Card sales.
3. If the point above was to nerf it, Funny thing is that, there is still Money Sellers you can pay IRL $, that will just mod your account to acquire said funds. For example the first Site I pull up for xbox, will put 150 Mil on your Account for 19 Dollars....
This is not to mention well known stuff like Bogdan, which while it takes 15 Mins each time, can get you an ez mil those every 15 mins.
Overall If I want to play GTA V and want to mess around with the new Vehicle stuff, I just use my Mod Menu on PC to spawn it in Solo and mess around with it there.
Rockstar has been getting Greedier and greedier with each content release. GTA 6, will probably ask you to first enter you credit Card Details to play the first mission and pay a Fee.
Casino heist is better anyway. Maybe not the payout but it's more enjoyable to play with friends and definitely has a higher replayability for me. Cayo was fun the first few times but after awhile it felt like a 2nd job.
Apparently because of players glitching the Heist. Which is just straight up BS anyways.