Over em,coz taken over by mugs,no brotherhood/loyalty just megalomaniacal shiteads.Yes bizo,connects and trust thru work and form but it's all another insta sht sho or unbalanced Fwits following stupid narcissists which brings the narcs.Its over for that,hold ya m8s close F the rest
We don't own the road but we drive whit many bikes in 2 rows and if some idiot comes between us we can get accidents,even cars have been come between us on the highway,so he got kicked his as
I was invited to stop by a club bar a few years back. Was the invite legit? The guys were causal, friendly. I never stopped but the guys seemed cool. I’ve been riding for 30 years and never had a problem with MCs.
so like what, if im on a sportsbike and i ride up to a club riding, I have to only be stuck behind them because that don't trust that I wont run into all of them? that retarded, I should be able to go around them. also I think all this territory stuff is childish, no one owns shit, I would even argue that the government shouldn't tell you how you can ride your bike no matter who you are and if a group of friends wants to ride together in matichg outfits and a a whole gang of bigets feel threatened by that, well idk but that's something an insecure puss would feel like. that's just my thoughts and I'm not trying to dis anyone
Much respect for your diplomacy at a Sgt of Arms. You are defiantly a born leader no need to be aggressive when you have that natural leadership energy. 💪🏼
This is my problem with outlaw clubs. Outlaw clubs: "let's be outlaws and let's not follow any rules or laws" also outlaw clubs" here's a bunch of rules that everyone that isn't us to follow"
No different than a street gang, you can accidentally find yourself in some deep shit for unknowingly wearing the wrong color. It's not a thing that's only surrounding 1%er MCs but the street life in general. If you're going to have the possibility, no matter how slight it is, to encounter someone who is a patched member you might find it beneficial to understand some of the basic rules of an MC. You do not have to follow their rules, but if you get pressed or roughed up because of choices you made to put yourself in that position then it's on you. Don't fuck around and you don't have to find out
Simply trading one set of authoritarian precepts for another. I get that. I've had to settle those disputes alone in a parking lot and in a bar. Now I just do my best to stay far away from it.
@@ndavis7789 "don't wear that color around here" never sat well with me. You're not wrong, it's the same street mentality, and it may be beneficial to know the rules of the game. But just like with the street gangs that don't like a certain color, not my circus, so let it go. When you're told with kindness and offered a beer as consolation for your hurt feels, you've been offered an olive branch.
"yeah lets just casually say 'We don't want our rights given to us by this country and forfeit our right to property, life, and any legal protections that may have been afforded to use' because we are so damn tough"
I'm a 35 year solo rider. I mind my business, I don't try to look like or imitate a club member, I don't try to hang around clubs members. So far, no problems.
@TribhuvanSinghShekhawat They may have you go to a support club to get some knowledge about the scene, that is a good thing. Be respectful, be cool, look people in the eye when you shake their hand. Tell them you are interested in the MC scene and you have zero experience in the scene. You do have an American bike? You are going to need to have that before you start moving forward with this. Sose, has vids on how to meet MC's, hang around and prospect, it's all legit. Do you have a twitter or X account?
I’m part of an NL based old-school MC that is celebrating its 50th anniversary this year. No vests, no patches, no ranking (outside of a voluntary board to arrange necessary things like paperwork and annual events) and no bullshit about what brand of bike you ride, just as long as you ride. Still love it after 35+ years.
@@Toeso_Loso yeah dude, annual reports, financial income / expenses, we go for a camping trip every year with food and drinks included, stuff like that needs to be arranged by someone. And the invoices paid.
@@Toeso_Losothere is actually a Lot of Paperwork involved since any income and Expenses need to be Tracked and reported or you know the IRS will come down on you
See, now _that_ sounds like a _club._ You get together, have a good time, maybe fundraise a little or do charity stuff. Some of these mother fuckers, though - they're just gangs. No two ways about it. Common rabble that, despite how much they love "freedom, brother!", are completely authoritarian, bordering on fascistic.
I have wondered once or twice if they would ever encounter serious resistance for ordinary nothing special ppl...I'm not looking for a bloodbath on my private front doorstep, but their behavior can be beyond turn-off
Agreed, they misunderstand what respect is. I can still treat you like a human being, but I don't have to respect you. Fun fact, I can treat you like a human and you will never know that I don't respect you.
I’m not a 1%er but I know a lot of guys who are and I’ve been to a lot of club parties, I’ve always showed respect and got respect back in return, never had any issues and the people that have probably said something stupid or were acting a certain way that they didn’t like, that’s on you🤷🏼♂️
I am a 45 year old solo rider, have been riding my whole adult life. No club owns the road and no club has the right to tell me I can't pass on a public road. Also, if you are going to be a solo rider, don't present yourself as a club rider. I don't where a cut or club patches and no one bothers me. They just like to think they are better then other riders, period. It's a PUBLIC road, shut the f*ck up, leave the rest of us alone, mind your own damn business and ride. End of discussion.
i'm a solo rider too in my 60's, & last week a group of bikers passed me while i was stopped at the side of the road changing my music, and i set off about 15 secs behind them. about 5 miles later they were all stopped waiting for someone i think, and just as i got to them they set off, so i ended up in the middle of the pack lol. they didn't look threatening, and nothing happened, but i didn't feel comfy surounded, and as it happened i was turning off a mile later anyway, but the thought shouldn't really come into your head in the first place should it, as i'd like to think i have some sort of connection to all bikers. GL
@@Bob-ts2tuI literally LOL. At the time it must’ve been intimidating etc but that was a funny story. It’s as if they didn’t even realize there was a black sheep among them for a bit. That’s a funny visual. Cool story.
okay this as european feels like well amerikan thnig as mc here be cannonball or helss angels are called pussy clubs if youre part of mc in old copuntry it means youre weak and bretty much free road kill
I noticed that in high school. After school certain kids that were a grade or two above me would be totally friendly to me. In school during the day those same kids would be rude to me if their friends were around. Most people grow out of that childishness but evidently some people in motorcycle gangs never grew up.
I appreciate you always being balanced in your approach . The ability to understand both positions and be able to express those thoughts seems to be rare these days! Keep Up the GREAT work you doing we almost at our one 1 year anniversary! 😂😂😂
Many years ago, after my parents got divorced, we moved into a neighborhood where a diamond club chapter/charter clubhouse was. A lot of the members lived in and around that neighborhood. My mom ended up dating and almost married one of the members. He more or less took me under his wing kinda like a mentor/dad. Over that couple of years, he taught me about the MC life and, more importantly, why I shouldn't get into it. Most of the kids I was around during that time all wanted to become members. Then some stuff happened in another chapter/charter down south of us, and a bunch of members got sent up the road, including my moms boyfriend. We lost our home, car (civil forfeiture), and had to move in with my grandmother. That was an eye-opening experience, and I knew then that the 1% MC life wasn't for me. Thanks for hearing a little of my story/experience.
I don’t hate MCs. I just don’t care. Motorcycle to me is all about freedom. Some dude telling me what to do, where to go, who to fight, what "rules" to follow, etc. is the exact opposite. You wanna play your roles? Fine. But I will never comply by your rules or expectations. They’re yours, not mine.
They did not. They did an episode about how non-riders hate loud pipes. Period. This has nothing to do with that, and it' would appear that you commented without even looking at the thumbnail.
@@elimgarak7330 You are wrong. Period. The episode was about insecure cosplayers displaying the kind of attention seeking behavior usually reserved for 16 year-old girls. What kind of delusional are you to think that episode was about non-riders hating loud pipes, they were absolutely making fun of harley riders. Period.
@@Jehosaphet I'll speak up as a Non Rider....I don't GAF about Pipes, Loud Or Otherwise. It's their Business and None Of Mind. I like semi loud pipes on trucks, but never owned any. I'm 74 years old in a few days, and I've run across a lot of things that Matter, or Mattered at the time,. and This Shit Is Not among them. Live and let live, none of us are getting out of this Alive, anyway
@@Chaorchy Yeah, but there is a difference between someone constanly putting a person down and diminishing their true value versus someone just getting but-hurt because they weren't addressed with their preferred pronoun.
Lot of Military Veterans you calling kids who never grew up bro. Remember, lot of the big 1% clubs were started by guys who came back from the wars, and lot of us Veterans end up joining clubs as it helps us reconnect with civilian life cause let me tell you lot of us get out and all we have is a lot of anger at civilian life.
I once was surrounded by three prospects in my bar. I played music there once a month and knew the owner. If they want to claim territory they were in MY bar. It was MY bar before they decided to move in. And yet because my vest had patches (non of which were 1% related) they decided they wanted to let me know I was in their space. I’m just tired of people who want to be bullies getting into clubs so they have back up when they want to pick
I have been to many bike nights and bike rallies, and have been approached by mc’s told them I wasn’t interested, I haven’t had a problem, great video!
As a member of a veterans club. We have never had a problem with MC clubs. And we have been invited to ride with some of these clubs. We, as veterans, have been asked to ride with clubs whom veterans have passed away in their club. We never refuse an invite to ride with our fallen brothers.
Agreed with your comment my Veteran Brother @kevinhogan715 I myself am a Veteran Paratrooper (ARMY) out of Ft Bragg home of Special Forces and Paratroopers currently in California enough said THNX @DemonsRow
The reasons listed could cross over to military. Navy bar, Marine Bar, Air Force dance School, you don't go out of your way to mess with the regulars. The patches are like insignia. You either earned it or didn't. Like stolen valor, some people cross the line, others don't. Be an adult, show respect but don't be a pussy. If you have pride in your group, and yourself, then you get it. If you don't then stay away from problems. I am not really wanting to get into it but mind your own business and treat people right, if not, then you get what you bring on
Just a dumb comment. I want to thank you for your service but I'm not proud of you representing my country. You don't realize that they're paying you respect because you're a veteran? Come on man
Likely because there was already a big meet up on Camp Pendelton about it. H.A. and I think a few Boozefighters were there, but I heard they hashed out everything.
@@captainthruster9484 I don’t think he ever said he DIDN’T realize that, just that there was a mutual respect between the two groups. Getting invited to support a club or even get invited to their clubhouse is a big deal and is a huge sign of respect. Respect is a two way street.
I mean... considering grown men dress like women now days...MC's aren't considered flamboyant. Got grown men who trying to act hard but they shave their legs and arms and wear makeup and tight ass jeans but get mad when you call them out for looking pretty gay lol.
Gangs don’t have bylaws, charters, LLCs and 501c’s, and don’t do the Annual Toy Run for needy kids, and gangs don’t have a confederation (holding organizations). People who type nonsense like this learned everything from television. SMH
Sose, it is always such a pleasure watching you explain this mysterious lifestyle. You are a natural educator, teaching with patience and consideration. I do not understand how someone could take offense by your message, it is an exposition of something that many are curious about and you deliver your lessons with grace and dignity. Let no man come between you and using the platform you have to educate your audience.
You seem like a genuine good dude who tries to understand what someone else is going through. It's a rare thing nowadays to walk a mile in someone elses shoes. Respect and I'm glad I subscribed, have a good one man
I appreciate you keeping it real and looking at things from all sides. Lotta things bikers get upset about as far as MC protocols and stuff doesn’t bother me. I get where they’re coming from, also get where some of those who proclaim freedom in all aspects are coming from as well. Im all for showing respect. I do it because it’s who I am as a man. If it’s not reciprocated, oh well. I know who I am as a man and have nothing to prove to anyone.
40 years old here. Not always been on the easy side of the law. I cant stand clubs and actively avoid hanging out with anyone in one. I will wear what I want, pass who I want and I don't need 10 other people on my side in a fist fight. Not all MCs and members are bad, but many members I see as chicken shits when alone.
This is so true. I’ve always said 99% of 1%ers are pussies that won’t do a thing if their Cuck buddies aren’t around. That’s just been my experience. I did see some mongols beat the shit out of some guys during rally a few years before Covid.
Absolutely. I'm a grown man in a free country. I'll do whatever I want when I want. If I'm not hurting you in any way choke that fake disrespect down your throat and move along.
i have to be very clear with people. i am a bik*ER* not a bik*ie* Bik*IE*s are criminals who pretend to be innocent hobbyists. Bik*ER*s are people who love riding motorcycles.
True story... A group of offshore paramedics ( guys that worked on oil rigs and deep water drilling ships ) we liked riding together on the weekend and would always carry medical supplies and offer aid to fellow motorists. Most of us were veterans so we showed up to support VFW outdoor events and some of us did stuff with bikers against child abuse and the freedom riders and other veteran groups... We eventually decided on a top rocker that said Bad Medicine, The main patch was a skull and crossbones with our texas paramedic and national registry paramedic patch to the left and right. The bottom rocker said either Paramedic, Nurse, EMT or First responder as we got a variety of medical trained folks riding with us. We also had the MC patch. One of our "members" was cornered and threatened by a feeder club for the Banditos saying we needed to meet with them and get permission to wear our patch and rockers. Apparently this OUTLAW motorcycle gang that is on the FBIs list of recognized organized criminals thought it had the authority to control what people wear while acting as good samaratins on motorcycles. The RED rocker and skull patch was chosen to match the red texas paramedic patches all of the founding members wore. This was so we could be easily identified as first responders so we could help people. We even had wannabe bikers that werent with outlaw clubs lecture us on how we needed permission to wear even a top rocker... Me and the guy I started it with were both combat veterans and we felt we paid the price to have the right to wear whatever we wanted in a free country. After over a year of giving free medical aid to motorists, and at biker events ( paramedics in texas have a legal duty to act when they see a crash on or off duty ) we got sick of the politics and harassment... we tossed our vests on a bonfire at a freedom riders event and left. Now I live retired in thailand. I have a three wheel, goofy little electric scooter and couldnt be happier. I will never own another motorcycle or even associate with anyone who does. Its simply not worth the hassle.
A lot of people sadly have this bullshit superiority ego complex that they need to feed. Such crap that it ruined it for what was an excellent idea and very valiant cause. Always a couple bad apples there to ruin a the freaking pie
Man that sucks. Your crew sounds badass man. I love the idea. I love the idea of having my old friends have our own patch and hang out. Sucks that riding motorcycles got ruined for you by those assholes.
@@daxisperry7644 I appreciate the kind words brother. I am actually loving living in Thailand. The guy that sold me my electric trike is actually doubling the size of my motor and building me a 72 volt , high amperage battery made from Tesla power cells. Its gonna be quite a beast as far as electric bikes go. I wouldnt trade my life here for all the motorcycles in the world.
Absolutely loved reading your story. The ending pained me. If you were a combat vet, I'm unknownst as to why when you gave you a hard time you did not stand our ground or show your backbone in a completely neutral but intimidating way. Being a combat vet I fully expect you could have "scattered the roaches".
@@allanmcelroy9840 I have no wife and kids to worry about protecting. I am single, a little crazy and will greet death like an old friend when it comes. I did the right thing by speaking with the rest of the club before making decisions that could impact the safety of their wives and kids regarding an outlaw motorcycle gang. Life cant always be like a Steven Segal movie. Combat and civilian life are very different. What will get you a medal in combat will get you life sentence in the real world.
I met a Mongol at a gas station here in South Texas, and I was respectful to him. He was super chill, and we just talked bikes and suspension setups. I get he's living a lifestyle and I just want to ride when I want where I want everyday. I get it, but at the end of the day it's just showing respect to another man.
I saw the same dude riding near expwy 83 .. I got off on Trenton, and he did also, I got to the light, and he pulled up next to me and gave me a thumbs-up .. My Indian was looking sick AF super clean .. Never felt like he wanted to start shit but he just was giving love and respect for respecting the lifestyle by showing respect for your choice to keeping your scoot clean 💯
I have to say, that your presentation of this video is very objective, realistic and informative...As a sport bike rider, in my early 50s, I've been around the block, and seen it all, yes I'm still riding the 10 second, high reving hooligan machines at my age, but I'm fit, lightweight and don't mind humping the gastank at 140, in fully tucked mode. My pet peeve as a missile rider, is the hostility we receive from the Mc cruiser bikers members... Are we purposely taunting them?, NO, are we challenging them NO? ...but apparently when 15 of us went around them on the hwy, NOT at ridiculous speeds either, they got right pissed off, and decided to make trouble later at the gas station, except this time they underestimated certain individuals involved in our sportbike group, and it went from beaking, to shoving then one of our guys who is really not someone to be messed with, pulled a piece and not very politely asked the MC member if his patch was bullet proof...long story short, this escalated in to something that none of us wanted, and luckily died down just as fast.. but I've noticed that there has been more and more clashes between sport bikers and MC cruiser riders of late, and I think it's because people are getting fed-up and less intimidated by older gray out-of-shape MC guys, trying to bully their way around the streets, Not that we are stupid enough to willingly mess with them, but how they always have an issue with us... Harley Davidson sales are in steep decline, while younger people are into more Japanese or European adventure bikes, or cafe' racers, and as the tables turn, I hope to see less dick measurements and more camaraderie between riders...just my opinion
@@brentneves3602 That is one of my fears as well-"how dare you pass us just because". Get the F over yourself. I'm impressed that your friend had the nerve the use the piece on him and confront the tuff guy attitude. Sadly, sometimes it seems, the nothing special average person needs to escalate via extremes so that these asshat bullies get the message.
As a biker of 35 years plus I don't hate MC's, I see them as inconsequential men who unite to feel relevant. Alone, they're nothing so why not join a gang of like-minded guys in order to bolster your courage facing life's challenges? The laws they have to abide by in these bike cults are laughable to independently minded men.
So, do you apply this level of rationale towards say a group of veterans wearing colors and in a group? Or do they get a pass because of the likes of PTSD, their service etc.?
@@PeterGriswald I have severe complex PTSD but I didn't get it fighting the unfair fights of deviants like Trump, Biden etc. Real men stand alone unlike football hooligans, outlaw mc's etc where you can see they love fighting when the odds are hugely in their favour, like 10 on 1 type odds.
@@kevinchamberlain7928 Bro you just insulted a lot of us fellow veterans. Not all of us handle our PTSD the same. Some of us prefer to be alone, and some of us prefer to join a structured organization like the MC's to cope with it. And yes, it is a structured organization, thus the rules and bylaws. We all handle our shit differently, so respect those who don't go your way.
Randomly started stumbled on this channel couple weeks ago... have watched ton of the content. Hes right lot these things can help you in your regular life. Already started implementing. I dont even have a motorcycle or ever driven one. But this culture is fascinating and theres a lot to learn from it.
Got my start in the late 60s,was taught by hardcore bikers as well as 1%ers of that time period that you worked on your own bike and rode.For me,finances dictated old used Triumphs.That is what I still ride and wrench on from basic maint to full rebuilds.Back then Triumphs were respected by HD guys.These days when some HD guy,MC or not,that takes his bike to the dealership for an oil change and plugs, tells me I'm not a "real biker" I just tell myself he doesn't know the history of the culture,and if he's a member of an MC I still show respect because at least he had the discipline to earn a patch.
This is probably the best video I've seen from you showing the differences in Attitude towards club members and non-club members. I have yet to have a good experience with full patched club members of any club. But if I ever wanted and (this is all hypothetical because I don't even ride to be in a club) I probably want to join yours man. You seem like the type to want to educate a potential club member. Focus less on hazy and mistreating a potential brother and more about building them up equipping them with the right tools and knowledge that's what it's about.
I've been riding 57 years and at last count have covered 450,000 miles on a bike. I don't belong to a club, never have, never will because I prefer to ride alone or with at most one or two others. I don't consider myself a "biker". I consider myself a rider, for that's what I do and live for. Not the culture, not the advantages of a crowd, but the ride, me the road and my bike. All I ask is to be left alone to do what I love to do. You live your way and leave me to live mine.
As a former member of a support club, I have seen everything you mentioned and it's saddening sometimes because egos get too big and it all goes to shit. Do I missed the parties and brotherhood? Sure do but I am loving the freedom I have now.
First I gotta say thanks for representing the clubs that started in Australia & are now world wide. I grew up in Sydney & ever since I could hold on I’ve been on bikes & I was always taught to be respectful to anyone who wore a patch.
I have been riding over 55yrs, I was never in a club. Now I have been the leader of a group, we have been riding with some big clubs. We are not a MC we are a Gun Club who ride. We don’t look for trouble we have a Two part patch some of the young men in 1%clubs act as if we are a MC an feel some kind of threat, I don’t understand this BS we have veterans and kids who ride with us.
It's because they're probably a loser. I've spent a lot of my young life fighting groups of blokes alone. If you can get the upper hand early with words, they all crumble. Some men just really need to be told by other men what to do and think.
Good info man, I’ve been around clubs quite a bit so I understand it, but it’s good you’re making these videos so those who may not know can find out and understand as well.
Very informative. I've been riding since 1993 and have never been in an MC, but learning a lot about them on this channel. I have run across a lot of MC's and most of them pretty respectful and friendly. I know there are some "unfriendly" ones out there, but that goes with just normal people too. Thanks for putting this information out there. Don't understand the issue with anyone wearing anything related to any sort of organization. I am ex military and if I got offended by everyone wearing military style garb my whole life schedule would be ruined. You don't know everyone's story.
Awesome video as always. You should talk about Japan's Outlaw biker clubs, the Bosozoku. They are an interesting bunch and share lots of similarities with the american outlaw clubs.
I really like how you bring up alot of the topics you cover. From the time I was a kids my old man was always running around with clubs. I can remember all of that from the SFV chapters etc etc. At the end of the day after seeing my old man hauled off up state for a while it really opened my eyes. We lost a house years with him and for what? Hanging around and knowing the dudes. After that I just didn’t want to be part of that club life. Do I give the guys respect that due, sure but it’s just not for me man. I have found that almost everyone one of them I run across (1% type) are all cool AF if you come across as genuine and respectful. Almost everyone one of them have helped me out or thrown me a bone when I was in someone place that was far away from home and one major club even invited me into the club house and that frankly was an honor seeing all the history and I’ll never forget that. Biggest thing is this, don’t be an ass because I promise you like he just said it’s a man’s game and if you FA you will FO fast.
I never had a problem with club members even when I first got on the road. My experience was respect goes a long way. My first encounter with a 1% was a positive one. I was on my bike and pulled into a rest area, there was a couple of bikers out there and I pulled in the spot next to them excited to see another rider. I nodded as I pulled in, I got off my bike and reached my hand out he looked down at my hand and said, I'm happy to shake your hand take off your sunglasses and gloves. Once I did he reached his hand out, he invited me over to a picnic table and gave me a friendly schooling while we all had some water and sodas. I never had a problem but I never gave attitude either.
@@TingTingalingy what way? with respect and helping educate me so I didn't get into trouble. I don't take offense to people trying to help me out. This was back in the mid 80's times were different then. I learned a lot that day, back then you didn't disrespect people who were not disrespecting you. People were quicker to throw hands then tolerate your mouth.
@@oldmanbiker2 oh boy lol NVM you are that fool that annoys other riders thinking they want to talk to you because they're on a bike. I net you tell that tired story every chance you get "I was educated by a 1%er" lol
@@TingTingalingy Right... I see a lot of fan bois here acting like cucks because someone wearing a diamond patch was cool or chill to them... I say F#%k em... I see a bandito rocker in texas and I knew I was dealing with a$$holes and cowards... I dont wanna shake your hand or be your buddy. I am a grown a$$ man with a full time job and $hit to do...
I'm not a rider, I'm not in any mc but love bikes and hang out with riders and members in motorcycle bars. If you respect and they respect you everything will be good. Thank you for your wisdom. Love from Poland 🇵🇱 ♥️
You’re right we don’t own the road. That’s not what our attempt is at all. We know we don’t own the road. We are riding a 2 wheeled vehicle that has no cage around or nothing to protect it like y’all do with cars. People that have never rode a motorcycle don’t have a clue. One dumb person not paying attention and pulls out in front of you or swerve into you. They might get a little scratch or something very small. WE WILL BE DEAD. Literally. We will have to scrape one of our brothers off the payment. And we don’t want to do that. We wanna keep everyone that’s in our packs and ourselves safe as possible.
A formation is more about safety. I know it sounds backwards, but when you’re in one, the adrenaline is high and you don’t want anyone causing a disruption. It’s the same with five or fifty. You just want to get where you’re going and together, without hassle. Don’t judge it until you experience it. If you already have and didn’t like it, that’s okay too.
@@G.R.E.YMAFIA.M.C.7 You know cars really never have too much issue. In fact I have only ever had an MC try to bully me from passing them when I was on a bike. Lived in a few parts of the country north and south and been similar results in different areas with different 1%ers.
Also, I have a lot of respect for you for what you said about the SofA vest. Nobody trying disrespect a real MC would wear a TV show vest they got on Amazon.
Done the group riding thing a few years ago. Some like a cage, some don't. I get the feeling that clublife is for folks that've been institutionalised in some way, ex cons, ex military, police, firefighters, orphans and suchlike. People who've spent a few years being told what to do and when to take a shit and now find it hard living without a big bag o rules and likeminded brothers.
At the end of the day, there are people who ride two wheels that aren't searching for something bigger than themselves to affiliate with. For those people, MCs are little more than a curiosity. Heck, such people don't even understand the posers' interest in wearing patches and cuts.
Good chapter. I've ridden 100k miles and honestly, never ridden up on an MC. Group rides yes, but an MC of any kind, not that I could tell. Simple fact is you don't need a 3 part patch to tell the world you love to ride. If you WANT to be YOURSELF, then show individuality, not conformity to someone else's standard. If you want to show someone you are not afraid of them, be polite. If you want to show someone you are insecure, act like you have a chip on your shoulder.
I was in a nasty motorcycle accident and now ride a Harley Freewheeler trike, i had about 20 H.A pull into a gas station behind me, the road cptn struck up a conversation with me, i told him why i was on 3 and he shook my hand and said just getting back on the road was amazing. My asshole was sooo puckered up when they pulled in but talk about the most chill guys ever
@allanmcelroy9840 I didn't feel threatened at all, just was thinking "oh shit, don't act stupid, get your gas and go" but the guy started talking to me and it put me at ease
@allanmcelroy9840 100% agree.. I'll talk to ANYBODY unless they give ne a reason not to and those guys definitely didn't.. the one guy was "you were in a coma from a bike wreck and got back on the road, that itself is badass" so maybe my story and the way I conducted myself made a difference 🤷
I have been riding a little over a year and appreciate how you educate on MC culture. I did hang around with a large MC for a while before I ever bought my bike because there club house was next to my friends shop and they were really cool guys. They let me in there Christmas party and the President even told me I could join the club if I wanted to. Just not my thing but I have no problems with MCs. Now watching your videos I have a whole new understanding of the life style. Thank you.
Thats how I see it... That show got a lot of teens and people in their 20s to wanna ride. The ego most of these bikers have is just childish as fuck. Thinking they own the road will really the ones who own the road are truckers that keep the USA running.
@@guyknightley3499: I hate to burst your bubble of BS, but regardless of whether you're an M.C. biker, regular civilian driver, trucker, ect. NOBODY OWNS THE F'IN ROAD. You can drop the wannabe badass act, I don't think any M.C. bikers are too afraid of you or anyone really, nor should they be, so if anyone is bein' childish, it's the idiots like yourself runnin' your mouth in the comment section of a RUclips video, talkin' BS 'bout M.C. bikers you will never have the nerve to say to they're faces irl, grow up.
I spent 10 years in an MC (not a diamond club). At one of our runs when SoA was still cranking out fresh seasons I watched a RUB strut in to the poker stop like he owned the place. Didn't even hold the door for his lady. Stood around looking all bad-ass in his SoA patched vest. Some diamonds from a very violent club in our area didn't even talk to him. Just walked up, socked him and took his "cut". They very verbally made it clear he should leave immediately. He did. Again, not even checking on his woman, just making a bee-line out the door to his "custom" Harley and as soon as she was on the back he was fishtailing out of the parking lot. Normally I'm with you, let the guy wear his shit. But his attitude was far bigger than his common sense and you could tell he was a total D-Bag. So in that one case I was happy to see it go down that way.
I’ll save you 15 minutes. Do whatever the fuck you want. If you’re a regular person that wants to ride a motorcycle, have fun, dress how you want, ride following the real laws and traffic rules, don’t let delusional people ruin your riding experience.
I'm at bike night almost every week at the local Harley, Outlaws are the dominate club out here, was standing there waiting for my patches to get sewn on by the guy that's always there (everyone goes through him for patches, an Outlaw needed a couple new patches because he went down and it messed up a patch but it was still attached to the vest that's why everyone, including Outlaws, use him) couple members of the Outlaws got in line behind me I noticed a memorial patch for someone I had just read about in the news who also happened to be a friend of a friend, I offered my condolences and we sat there talking about how good the man was that got killed on his bike (I had met him once or twice before he died) after that we were just BS'in about bikes and whatnot. Seen the same guy the other day he congratulated me on the 24 street glide I traded in my 09 softail for. The main thing people don't realize is guys in MC's are still people too, and at the end of the day whether you're a solo rider or MC member, we're all on 2 wheels.
I ride in a motorcycle association (not an MC). Worked with a buddy that was in a support club for a 1% club and at bike nights he would be sure I knew the protocol around his club and when the 1% club members showed up. I have a ton of respect for anyone who rides and never felt anything but mutual respect around all riders whether they were part of the support clubs or the 1% guys. Give respect, get respect. Keep up the great content!!
This is why I parked my bike and haven't ridden it in 5 years! I worked in high level politics for 20 years. When I walked away I just wanted to ride! Alone! No vest! No patches! Just me and my bike! What I found was there was more politics in riding than there was in actual politics!
I've passed MCs on the road several times. It's just a matter of making sure they know you're there. It only takes a couple of minutes riding behind and the guy in the back gives you the signal that it's okay. Those guys ride tight and close and if some yo-yo goes ripping by, it could startle someone and cause a very severe accident. Honestly, it's never been an issue for me. Just give them the "two fingers" when you pass and it's all good.
I've ridden for a long time and met a few club members here and there. The whole passing thing has never been an issue because it's just safe riding to let people know you're there if you're overtaking. The few conversations I've had have just been about motorbikes or riding.
I’m considering a bike. Your content is really helpful. I’m not the MC type, but greet folks when I meet them. Fortunately, it’s all been positive. Most seem glad that some “straight” considers them equal as men and shows courtesy and respect.
Do it Brotha! It's fun to get out and just cruise at your pace, whatever that is. There's a lot of good used ones people are trying to get rid of for good deals. 💪
I was ridin solo gettin off at the Strugis exit during the rally. Had to slide in line with 1% club on the ramp they were 50+ deep. I told the guy next to me I’m not trying to break into your group. He was cool, and said he was glad I showed respect. Ran into them later in the week had some beers great dudes.
So kicking a person off his bike possibly killing or injuring them forever is keeping the Mc safe? Rrrriiight that could be called attempted murder especially if they are just a regular rider not in a club.
I consider myself a nomad, but a large portion of my childhood was spent in these club settings so I am well aware of the codes and proper code of conduct. Even if there is some cultural differences between EU and US biker/club culture, the codes are pretty much global. Stay respectful, do not be noisy about stuff that are not your business, do not wear anything that even remotely resemble a club patch and pose and remember the "you saw nothing, heard nothing and got nothing to say!" motto too.
I don't have any strong feelings one way or the other on clubs - on the one hand the idea of the brotherhood and earning stuff seems pretty good - on the other, the rules, mandatory events and yeah - the prospect period are a bit of a deterrent. I've been to a lot of "Get Yelled At And Do Pushups" schools in my life and I'm kind of done, but on the other hand I also get why you don't just want to let people in without knowing what they're about first. The thing about the patches and stuff is the same - I get not wanting someone wearing YOUR club name or YOUR patch, but the state rockers, and 1% stuff... ok. I mean, there's people with fake martial arts schools too, teaching BS and claiming it's BJJ or Tae Kwon Do or whatever and you don't see real instructors going over and beefing with them. Seems to me that if people - not just 1%s or Bikers but everyone - didn't assume what people are thinking and just laughed at them or ignored them there'd be less issues. Veterans have to do it all the time; actual stolen valor gets called out but I'm always hearing someone try to tell me about how the military works or what war is like because of what their dad or uncle or brother did but they never did it themselves. I just ignore them, or chuckle later - I don't need to beat them up even if I'm with other vets. I dunno why an SoA cut is disrespect - it's kind of silly, bro, unless the dude was actually Ron Pearlman but you handled it really well. If someone isn't actually doing something wrong like talking rude to you or your woman or your brother, or putting hands on you or your bike... it's probably not disrespect. Heck, the dude could have Asperger's and just not know! But, same token, I like it that MCs don't tolerate people actually acting the fool around them. I remember someone saying - may even have been you - that if your kid's bus stop is on the street where a clubhouse is, probably no one will ever bother those kids. It's good when men act like men even if they have to get a little rough now and then.
Got my first bike at 19, a 1960s cafe racer (built from my garage). Got my 1st HD at 26, a rigid shovelhead bobber. I’m 43 now, ride a FLH bagger and love it. Never joined a club or patched-up, but respect them cats. I’m good with any bikes on the road. ✊🏽✌🏽From So-Cal USA🇺🇸
I have discovered that complimenting a biker on how cool their ride is (along with respect) goes a long way to creating a positive interaction with club members...
Hey Bubba did you hear about that Polk County Sheriff Grady judge disrespected to Montrose color and jacket on national TV that sheriff don't care he's after any and every motorcycle group he can get
There was such a disaster with that bro the dude disappeared everybody was tight at me then months later he started sending them if i do it i gotta buy it myself so i dont rely on a 3rd party
67 year old veteran. Had a stroke 6.5 years ago and had to give up my 10 year old Goldwing that I had put 250K miles on since it was new. The respect for older riders of metrics was/is sometimes lacking, but now that I have gone to three wheels (and god forbid that it is a Slingshot for the comfort of my wife and I) it is even less. A Slingshot, Vanderhall, and other non-traditional three wheeled vehicles are options for those of us that just want to ride and not be judged for the choices that we had to make as we get older. Sometimes two wheels are not enough or are a physical impossibility given our health issues.
Greetings all, I know my experiences are not from the USA, but the UK and more recently Australia. Years ago when we lived in the UK, I was ex military and knew a few MC bikers quite well, and one of my wife’s friends was married to the president of a big MC. I have ridden bikes all my life, longer than a lot of the MC, but was never really viewed by the MC as being a “Real” biker because I didn’t ride a chopper. Most MC guys are pretty cool people individually, but acted differently in a larger group, generally being aggressive dickheads. They obviously felt they had to for whatever reasons due to the club mentality. In the UK, MC’s didn’t stop you from overtaking, would acknowledge you on the road etc without the egotistical bullshit and there was never any trouble, as long as you didn’t behave like an arsehole yourself. I emigrated to Australia in 2009, and almost straight away, met a biker organisation (not MC) called the Ulysses Club. They wouldn’t even talk to us at the pub and looked at us like we were a piece of shit, a right bunch of arrogant pricks who were nothing special and is just a club for over 40’s bikers. A bit of a ramble I know, but these reasons I have never joined a bike club of any description. I am secure and confident in my own reasons why I am a proper biker who has always loved to ride and don’t feel less for not being a club member. I am my own man, a biker who likes to cut loose and not conform to bullshit. Long live all who ride, and grow old disgracefully but with respect to all.
I’m in a motorcycle association, not an MC. I’ve gotten along fine with Pistoleros, Bandidos, Saints and others. My most egregious offense was blasting by about a 20 rider deep group of Saints at about double their speed. A stoplight caught us and I apologized to the ride captain, introduced myself, what chapter I was in and offered my SAA’s contact info if I needed to make it right. He told me that just having the balls to apologize and offer a further conversation was good enough. Told him I’d wait for them to roll and apologize to the tail gunner too. We fist bumped, I apologized to the TG and we parted ways like adults. A lot of the folks in my MA are afraid to talk to the MC guys for some reason. I’ll hang around if I think nobody in my MA has introduced themselves and wait to be spoken to, ask if anyone from my MA has introduced themselves and I’ll introduce myself either way. No gloves, no hat, no sunglasses, firm handshake and eye contact while speaking. It’s an easy day and we can all hang out at the same establishment without any issues.
@@TingTingalingy I’ve got a patch on my back too. 20 of them, 1 of me and I failed to follow protocol. Yeah, I apologized like a man. Actions have consequences.
@@TingTingalingy A lot of fun to say nonsense on the internet. Different to live it. Only coward here is you, but it’s all good. Enjoy your Funyuns and Mt Dew.
Years ago I had to put my ride(78 Sportster) away. Still in mint condition, I just can't ride anymore. Anyway, I've never, EVER, had any problems with MCs on the road. In fact, once, back in the late 80s, I broke down. I managed to walk the bike under an overpass to keep cool. After about 45 minutes of frustration, a MC(Breed MC out of Jersey), with about 25 riders pulled up on me. After some chit chat, one of them was their mechanic, approached and nicely asked me if he could look at the bike. I agreed. 10 minutes later, he had my bike running. He even adjusted my carburetor and fine tuned it!! Also, while waiting, one of their girls gave me a nice cold drink. Also, they would not accept any money from me. And let me ride with them all the way to Ohio, where I got off(They were going to Sturgis). Moral of the story: Bikers are people too. You give them respect, you'll get respect.
This was a great video. I was at Gail's Harley in the KCMO metro for a cruise event, and a few GGs were in the store. I struck up a conversation with them, and we chatted for about 10 minutes. Afterwards, a friend asked why the hell I would do that. Told him, "Treat people with respect, and you can talk to about anyone. In short, don't be a dumbass."
I have ridden all over the world and have come across clubs of all sorts. The bottom line is Respect is universal. If you are respectful the situation always seems to work out. If your an idiot then bad shit happens.
This was one of the best videos! It has answered a lot of my questions! Thank you! When I am riding I just show and project respect! To all! I’ve never had a problem when chatting with any MC ! I do not want to be in a MC, I would love to see a video about, how people feel when riding in a big pack of bikes! If sober riding is mandatory no reefer no booze! One wrong move and it’s dominos!
o/ Sup, got into your videos because I am curious about MC culture (I dont plan on joining an MC, but I am saving up for my first bike) This video was helpful for me to understand why bikers might want to join an MC, and also kind of refreshing hearing someone understanding both sides. Me, personally, MC clubs seem like places full of stuffed-up dudes who are basically roleplaying in order to feel important, but your videos helped me realize its just a culture between guys. ... and outlaws, I guess. I think as I become a biker I'll eventually come around these types, but I hope I'll get approached respectfully instead of getting ran off the road, you know?
Yeah well hell. I'm almost 60 I've been riding for a long time but I really appreciate your insight I having much understanding now and appreciate your channel
Folks should *just* know themselves and be who they are. I say *just* but that ain’t trivial. I live in a state with multiple major MCs, tight non-affiliated MCs, solid support MCs, solid clean & sober MCs, serious MMs, and tons of good independent folks… been in all kinds of situations good and tense, been in their homes and them in mine, call some good friends, not a light thing. Pardon my rambling, folks just be who they are, remember that old, “Each to their own.”, keep your head on a swivel and keep the big picture….and most importantly… enjoy the wind! Keep up the good work.
I was riding in the early 80s. 1MC club. At my Hometown. We all knew each other. We never had any problems with him. We were all friends. We got along. Even at the same bars. We just have good times together. We respected them and they respected us.
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Over em,coz taken over by mugs,no brotherhood/loyalty just megalomaniacal shiteads.Yes bizo,connects and trust thru work and form but it's all another insta sht sho or unbalanced Fwits following stupid narcissists which brings the narcs.Its over for that,hold ya m8s close F the rest
We don't own the road but we drive whit many bikes in 2 rows and if some idiot comes between us we can get accidents,even cars have been come between us on the highway,so he got kicked his as
I was invited to stop by a club bar a few years back. Was the invite legit? The guys were causal, friendly. I never stopped but the guys seemed cool. I’ve been riding for 30 years and never had a problem with MCs.
so like what, if im on a sportsbike and i ride up to a club riding, I have to only be stuck behind them because that don't trust that I wont run into all of them? that retarded, I should be able to go around them.
also I think all this territory stuff is childish, no one owns shit, I would even argue that the government shouldn't tell you how you can ride your bike no matter who you are and if a group of friends wants to ride together in matichg outfits and a a whole gang of bigets feel threatened by that, well idk but that's something an insecure puss would feel like. that's just my thoughts and I'm not trying to dis anyone
Much respect for your diplomacy at a Sgt of Arms. You are defiantly a born leader no need to be aggressive when you have that natural leadership energy. 💪🏼
When I was 18 I was really interested in an MC. Now, in my 50ies, I just find it childish when grown men act like kindergarden..
Yea its crazy the stuff some are willing to go to the grave over. Cause if they pick the right one. Someone is gonna put em there.
Well said
I've never wanted to be in an outlaw motorcycle club and I sure don't want to dress like I am in one, when I'm not.
Yhea only losers need to be part of something
Many riders look back and think why.
This is my problem with outlaw clubs. Outlaw clubs: "let's be outlaws and let's not follow any rules or laws" also outlaw clubs" here's a bunch of rules that everyone that isn't us to follow"
No different than a street gang, you can accidentally find yourself in some deep shit for unknowingly wearing the wrong color. It's not a thing that's only surrounding 1%er MCs but the street life in general. If you're going to have the possibility, no matter how slight it is, to encounter someone who is a patched member you might find it beneficial to understand some of the basic rules of an MC. You do not have to follow their rules, but if you get pressed or roughed up because of choices you made to put yourself in that position then it's on you.
Don't fuck around and you don't have to find out
Simply trading one set of authoritarian precepts for another. I get that. I've had to settle those disputes alone in a parking lot and in a bar. Now I just do my best to stay far away from it.
@@ndavis7789 "don't wear that color around here" never sat well with me. You're not wrong, it's the same street mentality, and it may be beneficial to know the rules of the game. But just like with the street gangs that don't like a certain color, not my circus, so let it go. When you're told with kindness and offered a beer as consolation for your hurt feels, you've been offered an olive branch.
"yeah lets just casually say 'We don't want our rights given to us by this country and forfeit our right to property, life, and any legal protections that may have been afforded to use' because we are so damn tough"
No one has rules for other people to follow, just your own consequences to impose when others cross your line.
I'm a 35 year solo rider. I mind my business, I don't try to look like or imitate a club member, I don't try to hang around clubs members. So far, no problems.
@TribhuvanSinghShekhawat I've heard about those dudes. They are a tough group. Have you done anything like this before?
@TribhuvanSinghShekhawat They may have you go to a support club to get some knowledge about the scene, that is a good thing. Be respectful, be cool, look people in the eye when you shake their hand. Tell them you are interested in the MC scene and you have zero experience in the scene. You do have an American bike? You are going to need to have that before you start moving forward with this. Sose, has vids on how to meet MC's, hang around and prospect, it's all legit. Do you have a twitter or X account?
@TribhuvanSinghShekhawat Dont imagine they are opening up for Indians mate, racism exists in the real world,
yah... we ride to chill...
You dont have to be so soft
I’m part of an NL based old-school MC that is celebrating its 50th anniversary this year. No vests, no patches, no ranking (outside of a voluntary board to arrange necessary things like paperwork and annual events) and no bullshit about what brand of bike you ride, just as long as you ride. Still love it after 35+ years.
Paperwork wtf lol
@@Toeso_Loso yeah dude, annual reports, financial income / expenses, we go for a camping trip every year with food and drinks included, stuff like that needs to be arranged by someone. And the invoices paid.
@@Toeso_Losothere is actually a Lot of Paperwork involved since any income and Expenses need to be Tracked and reported or you know the IRS will come down on you
See, now _that_ sounds like a _club._ You get together, have a good time, maybe fundraise a little or do charity stuff. Some of these mother fuckers, though - they're just gangs. No two ways about it. Common rabble that, despite how much they love "freedom, brother!", are completely authoritarian, bordering on fascistic.
That's awesome! I don't care what anyone else rides, if you're on two wheels, you are family!
I’ll save you 15 min. It’s because outlaw motorcycle gangs demand respect without giving any.
I have wondered once or twice if they would ever encounter serious resistance for ordinary nothing special ppl...I'm not looking for a bloodbath on my private front doorstep, but their behavior can be beyond turn-off
....and they do demand or get respect they usually end up in jail.
Most real comment on here. Though, I do enjoy specific examples and the music is kickin' too
Agreed, they misunderstand what respect is. I can still treat you like a human being, but I don't have to respect you. Fun fact, I can treat you like a human and you will never know that I don't respect you.
I’m not a 1%er but I know a lot of guys who are and I’ve been to a lot of club parties, I’ve always showed respect and got respect back in return, never had any issues and the people that have probably said something stupid or were acting a certain way that they didn’t like, that’s on you🤷🏼♂️
I am a 45 year old solo rider, have been riding my whole adult life. No club owns the road and no club has the right to tell me I can't pass on a public road. Also, if you are going to be a solo rider, don't present yourself as a club rider. I don't where a cut or club patches and no one bothers me. They just like to think they are better then other riders, period. It's a PUBLIC road, shut the f*ck up, leave the rest of us alone, mind your own damn business and ride. End of discussion.
i'm a solo rider too in my 60's, & last week a group of bikers passed me while i was stopped at the side of the road changing my music, and i set off about 15 secs behind them. about 5 miles later they were all stopped waiting for someone i think, and just as i got to them they set off, so i ended up in the middle of the pack lol. they didn't look threatening, and nothing happened, but i didn't feel comfy surounded, and as it happened i was turning off a mile later anyway, but the thought shouldn't really come into your head in the first place should it, as i'd like to think i have some sort of connection to all bikers. GL
Bikers that use a club as a crutch are lil insecure boys.
Exactly!!! thank you! I cannot fathom that behaviour. Few things boil my blood like that stuff does
@@Bob-ts2tuI literally LOL. At the time it must’ve been intimidating etc but that was a funny story. It’s as if they didn’t even realize there was a black sheep among them for a bit. That’s a funny visual. Cool story.
Well Said
63 y.o. veteran biker. Done the club thing. It's nothing more than a safe haven for cowards. Real men ride alone. Children need gang support.
100%
This clown probably out in bad for being a 🙀
ma man gets it, well said brother! no man club or not will ever tell me how I can or cant ride.
@@godfather9253 oh but they will. And you won't do shit but comply
@@DixieBird123 wrong but you do you dude
I'm 65 and noticed that meeting a 1% who's alone can be different than when they are with the rest of the club.
Very true
sounds like a toxic 2nd personality
okay this as european feels like well amerikan thnig as mc here be cannonball or helss angels are called pussy clubs if youre part of mc in old copuntry it means youre weak and bretty much free road kill
I noticed that in high school. After school certain kids that were a grade or two above me would be totally friendly to me. In school during the day those same kids would be rude to me if their friends were around. Most people grow out of that childishness but evidently some people in motorcycle gangs never grew up.
Pack behavior. Dogs
I appreciate you always being balanced in your approach . The ability to understand both positions and be able to express those thoughts seems to be rare these days!
Keep Up the GREAT work you doing we almost at our one 1 year anniversary! 😂😂😂
Many years ago, after my parents got divorced, we moved into a neighborhood where a diamond club chapter/charter clubhouse was. A lot of the members lived in and around that neighborhood. My mom ended up dating and almost married one of the members. He more or less took me under his wing kinda like a mentor/dad. Over that couple of years, he taught me about the MC life and, more importantly, why I shouldn't get into it. Most of the kids I was around during that time all wanted to become members.
Then some stuff happened in another chapter/charter down south of us, and a bunch of members got sent up the road, including my moms boyfriend. We lost our home, car (civil forfeiture), and had to move in with my grandmother. That was an eye-opening experience, and I knew then that the 1% MC life wasn't for me.
Thanks for hearing a little of my story/experience.
Appreciate you sharing
Thanks for sharing
I don’t hate MCs. I just don’t care. Motorcycle to me is all about freedom. Some dude telling me what to do, where to go, who to fight, what "rules" to follow, etc. is the exact opposite. You wanna play your roles? Fine. But I will never comply by your rules or expectations. They’re yours, not mine.
Southpark did a great episode about them.
“We need to be louder RA BU BA BA BA”
They did not. They did an episode about how non-riders hate loud pipes. Period. This has nothing to do with that, and it' would appear that you commented without even looking at the thumbnail.
@@elimgarak7330 You are wrong. Period. The episode was about insecure cosplayers displaying the kind of attention seeking behavior usually reserved for 16 year-old girls. What kind of delusional are you to think that episode was about non-riders hating loud pipes, they were absolutely making fun of harley riders. Period.
@@Jehosaphet What kind of delusional are you to think that we are saying two different things?
@@Jehosaphet I'll speak up as a Non Rider....I don't GAF about Pipes, Loud Or Otherwise. It's their Business and None Of Mind. I like semi loud pipes on trucks, but never owned any. I'm 74 years old in a few days, and I've run across a lot of things that Matter, or Mattered at the time,. and This Shit Is Not among them. Live and let live, none of us are getting out of this Alive, anyway
Respect all who ride. Respect is earned, not demanded.
The saying is “Respect is earned, not given. You command respect, not demand respect.”
Demanding respect is a sign of an insecure man.
@@Chaorchy
Yeah, but there is a difference between someone constanly putting a person down and diminishing their true value versus someone just getting but-hurt because they weren't addressed with their preferred pronoun.
Im a big tuff guy
I feel like respect should be given initially with the understanding that it's really easy to lose and even harder to get back.
I'm a lone wolf and U.S. Army combat veteran. I've gotten nothing but respect from all the MC members I've run across.
Bunch of kids that never grew up. Come here buddy I’ll give you a hug
Lot of Military Veterans you calling kids who never grew up bro. Remember, lot of the big 1% clubs were started by guys who came back from the wars, and lot of us Veterans end up joining clubs as it helps us reconnect with civilian life cause let me tell you lot of us get out and all we have is a lot of anger at civilian life.
@@hobbitpsi Thats how biker clubs even started. Vietnam vets that were outcasted by society, used and abused, and tossed in the street by Uncle Sam.
I once was surrounded by three prospects in my bar. I played music there once a month and knew the owner. If they want to claim territory they were in MY bar. It was MY bar before they decided to move in. And yet because my vest had patches (non of which were 1% related) they decided they wanted to let me know I was in their space.
I’m just tired of people who want to be bullies getting into clubs so they have back up when they want to pick
Monkey alone = weak
I have been to many bike nights and bike rallies, and have been approached by mc’s told them I wasn’t interested, I haven’t had a problem, great video!
appreciate you
Unless it is veterans, retired EMT's, or a legit church outreach support group...what MC? Evil.
@@allanmcelroy9840 Lot of MC's got a bunch of Veterans. Mine had a few, me included.
As a member of a veterans club. We have never had a problem with MC clubs. And we have been invited to ride with some of these clubs. We, as veterans, have been asked to ride with clubs whom veterans have passed away in their club. We never refuse an invite to ride with our fallen brothers.
Agreed with your comment my Veteran Brother @kevinhogan715 I myself am a Veteran Paratrooper (ARMY) out of Ft Bragg home of Special Forces and Paratroopers currently in California enough said THNX @DemonsRow
The reasons listed could cross over to military. Navy bar, Marine Bar, Air Force dance School, you don't go out of your way to mess with the regulars. The patches are like insignia. You either earned it or didn't. Like stolen valor, some people cross the line, others don't. Be an adult, show respect but don't be a pussy. If you have pride in your group, and yourself, then you get it. If you don't then stay away from problems.
I am not really wanting to get into it but mind your own business and treat people right, if not, then you get what you bring on
Just a dumb comment. I want to thank you for your service but I'm not proud of you representing my country. You don't realize that they're paying you respect because you're a veteran? Come on man
Likely because there was already a big meet up on Camp Pendelton about it. H.A. and I think a few Boozefighters were there, but I heard they hashed out everything.
@@captainthruster9484 I don’t think he ever said he DIDN’T realize that, just that there was a mutual respect between the two groups. Getting invited to support a club or even get invited to their clubhouse is a big deal and is a huge sign of respect. Respect is a two way street.
Every month is pride month for biker gangs. Matching outfits… so flamboyant.
Cartman said it best.
💅 girly pop matching drip
I mean... considering grown men dress like women now days...MC's aren't considered flamboyant. Got grown men who trying to act hard but they shave their legs and arms and wear makeup and tight ass jeans but get mad when you call them out for looking pretty gay lol.
Gangs don’t have bylaws, charters, LLCs and 501c’s, and don’t do the Annual Toy Run for needy kids, and gangs don’t have a confederation (holding organizations).
People who type nonsense like this learned everything from television. SMH
Yeah..I'm aware there are gay clubs..it's all silly business .
Sose, it is always such a pleasure watching you explain this mysterious lifestyle. You are a natural educator, teaching with patience and consideration. I do not understand how someone could take offense by your message, it is an exposition of something that many are curious about and you deliver your lessons with grace and dignity. Let no man come between you and using the platform you have to educate your audience.
You seem like a genuine good dude who tries to understand what someone else is going through. It's a rare thing nowadays to walk a mile in someone elses shoes. Respect and I'm glad I subscribed, have a good one man
I appreciate you keeping it real and looking at things from all sides.
Lotta things bikers get upset about as far as MC protocols and stuff doesn’t bother me.
I get where they’re coming from, also get where some of those who proclaim freedom in all aspects are coming from as well.
Im all for showing respect. I do it because it’s who I am as a man. If it’s not reciprocated, oh well. I know who I am as a man and have nothing to prove to anyone.
Much respect
40 years old here. Not always been on the easy side of the law. I cant stand clubs and actively avoid hanging out with anyone in one. I will wear what I want, pass who I want and I don't need 10 other people on my side in a fist fight. Not all MCs and members are bad, but many members I see as chicken shits when alone.
This is so true. I’ve always said 99% of 1%ers are pussies that won’t do a thing if their Cuck buddies aren’t around. That’s just been my experience. I did see some mongols beat the shit out of some guys during rally a few years before Covid.
Absolutely. I'm a grown man in a free country. I'll do whatever I want when I want. If I'm not hurting you in any way choke that fake disrespect down your throat and move along.
What a nonce 😂
I have one rule in life: If you're ordering this grown adult around, you'd better be the one who's paying my wages.
lol Love it!!
I tell my students, "Don't worry about someone or their opinion if they don't give you an F.
Family, Feeding, Financing, or Ducking"
I’m a motorcyclist and I can tell you that these people don’t represent me.
Nonce 😂
i have to be very clear with people. i am a bik*ER* not a bik*ie* Bik*IE*s are criminals who pretend to be innocent hobbyists. Bik*ER*s are people who love riding motorcycles.
My mom and i just got our motorcycle licenses. Loving your channel. New subscriber now much love.
Your 1% of the good men who don’t abuse power you are fit for it good on you man 🤘
much respect
As a brand new rider that has no desire to join any club ever, this is still good to know.
True story... A group of offshore paramedics ( guys that worked on oil rigs and deep water drilling ships ) we liked riding together on the weekend and would always carry medical supplies and offer aid to fellow motorists. Most of us were veterans so we showed up to support VFW outdoor events and some of us did stuff with bikers against child abuse and the freedom riders and other veteran groups...
We eventually decided on a top rocker that said Bad Medicine, The main patch was a skull and crossbones with our texas paramedic and national registry paramedic patch to the left and right. The bottom rocker said either Paramedic, Nurse, EMT or First responder as we got a variety of medical trained folks riding with us. We also had the MC patch.
One of our "members" was cornered and threatened by a feeder club for the Banditos saying we needed to meet with them and get permission to wear our patch and rockers. Apparently this OUTLAW motorcycle gang that is on the FBIs list of recognized organized criminals thought it had the authority to control what people wear while acting as good samaratins on motorcycles.
The RED rocker and skull patch was chosen to match the red texas paramedic patches all of the founding members wore. This was so we could be easily identified as first responders so we could help people.
We even had wannabe bikers that werent with outlaw clubs lecture us on how we needed permission to wear even a top rocker...
Me and the guy I started it with were both combat veterans and we felt we paid the price to have the right to wear whatever we wanted in a free country.
After over a year of giving free medical aid to motorists, and at biker events ( paramedics in texas have a legal duty to act when they see a crash on or off duty ) we got sick of the politics and harassment... we tossed our vests on a bonfire at a freedom riders event and left.
Now I live retired in thailand. I have a three wheel, goofy little electric scooter and couldnt be happier. I will never own another motorcycle or even associate with anyone who does. Its simply not worth the hassle.
A lot of people sadly have this bullshit superiority ego complex that they need to feed. Such crap that it ruined it for what was an excellent idea and very valiant cause. Always a couple bad apples there to ruin a the freaking pie
Man that sucks. Your crew sounds badass man. I love the idea. I love the idea of having my old friends have our own patch and hang out. Sucks that riding motorcycles got ruined for you by those assholes.
@@daxisperry7644 I appreciate the kind words brother. I am actually loving living in Thailand. The guy that sold me my electric trike is actually doubling the size of my motor and building me a 72 volt , high amperage battery made from Tesla power cells. Its gonna be quite a beast as far as electric bikes go. I wouldnt trade my life here for all the motorcycles in the world.
Absolutely loved reading your story. The ending pained me. If you were a combat vet, I'm unknownst as to why when you gave you a hard time you did not stand our ground or show your backbone in a completely neutral but intimidating way. Being a combat vet I fully expect you could have "scattered the roaches".
@@allanmcelroy9840 I have no wife and kids to worry about protecting. I am single, a little crazy and will greet death like an old friend when it comes. I did the right thing by speaking with the rest of the club before making decisions that could impact the safety of their wives and kids regarding an outlaw motorcycle gang. Life cant always be like a Steven Segal movie. Combat and civilian life are very different. What will get you a medal in combat will get you life sentence in the real world.
I appreciate this presentation because it comes from the heart. Riders look out for eachother better than most people on the road.
I met a Mongol at a gas station here in South Texas, and I was respectful to him. He was super chill, and we just talked bikes and suspension setups. I get he's living a lifestyle and I just want to ride when I want where I want everyday. I get it, but at the end of the day it's just showing respect to another man.
I saw the same dude riding near expwy 83 .. I got off on Trenton, and he did also, I got to the light, and he pulled up next to me and gave me a thumbs-up .. My Indian was looking sick AF super clean .. Never felt like he wanted to start shit but he just was giving love and respect for respecting the lifestyle by showing respect for your choice to keeping your scoot clean 💯
@@delta182 He was only nice because he was by himself... Get two or three Banditios together in texas and they will ruin whatever fun that they can...
South Texas is Bandido territory, ain't it??
I have to say, that your presentation of this video is very objective, realistic and informative...As a sport bike rider, in my early 50s, I've been around the block, and seen it all, yes I'm still riding the 10 second, high reving hooligan machines at my age, but I'm fit, lightweight and don't mind humping the gastank at 140, in fully tucked mode.
My pet peeve as a missile rider, is the hostility we receive from the Mc cruiser bikers members... Are we purposely taunting them?, NO, are we challenging them NO? ...but apparently when 15 of us went around them on the hwy, NOT at ridiculous speeds either, they got right pissed off, and decided to make trouble later at the gas station, except this time they underestimated certain individuals involved in our sportbike group, and it went from beaking, to shoving then one of our guys who is really not someone to be messed with, pulled a piece and not very politely asked the MC member if his patch was bullet proof...long story short, this escalated in to something that none of us wanted, and luckily died down just as fast.. but I've noticed that there has been more and more clashes between sport bikers and MC cruiser riders of late, and I think it's because people are getting fed-up and less intimidated by older gray out-of-shape MC guys, trying to bully their way around the streets, Not that we are stupid enough to willingly mess with them, but how they always have an issue with us...
Harley Davidson sales are in steep decline, while younger people are into more Japanese or European adventure bikes, or cafe' racers, and as the tables turn, I hope to see less dick measurements and more camaraderie between riders...just my opinion
@@brentneves3602 That is one of my fears as well-"how dare you pass us just because". Get the F over yourself. I'm impressed that your friend had the nerve the use the piece on him and confront the tuff guy attitude. Sadly, sometimes it seems, the nothing special average person needs to escalate via extremes so that these asshat bullies get the message.
Everyone in a gang has a uterus.
😂😂
You then would get slapped around by women lol
What a 🤡🤡🤡🤡💯
The no passing thing is the worst. The road is nobodies turf, its nobodies personal space, its a community project we all cooperate to use.
South Park needs to update their biker episode there’s so much rage bait in this community
As a biker of 35 years plus I don't hate MC's, I see them as inconsequential men who unite to feel relevant. Alone, they're nothing so why not join a gang of like-minded guys in order to bolster your courage facing life's challenges? The laws they have to abide by in these bike cults are laughable to independently minded men.
You’re the one who’s inconsequential, irrelevant and insignificant and doesn’t know WTF he’s even talking about.
So, do you apply this level of rationale towards say a group of veterans wearing colors and in a group? Or do they get a pass because of the likes of PTSD, their service etc.?
@@PeterGriswald I have severe complex PTSD but I didn't get it fighting the unfair fights of deviants like Trump, Biden etc.
Real men stand alone unlike football hooligans, outlaw mc's etc where you can see they love fighting when the odds are hugely in their favour, like 10 on 1 type odds.
@@kevinchamberlain7928 Bro you just insulted a lot of us fellow veterans. Not all of us handle our PTSD the same. Some of us prefer to be alone, and some of us prefer to join a structured organization like the MC's to cope with it. And yes, it is a structured organization, thus the rules and bylaws. We all handle our shit differently, so respect those who don't go your way.
@@hobbitpsi Nothing I said is untrue but I agree with your comment about respect those who don't go your way.
Randomly started stumbled on this channel couple weeks ago... have watched ton of the content. Hes right lot these things can help you in your regular life. Already started implementing. I dont even have a motorcycle or ever driven one. But this culture is fascinating and theres a lot to learn from it.
Got my start in the late 60s,was taught by hardcore bikers as well as 1%ers of that time period that you worked on your own bike and rode.For me,finances dictated old used Triumphs.That is what I still ride and wrench on from basic maint to full rebuilds.Back then Triumphs were respected by HD guys.These days when some HD guy,MC or not,that takes his bike to the dealership for an oil change and plugs, tells me I'm not a "real biker" I just tell myself he doesn't know the history of the culture,and if he's a member of an MC I still show respect because at least he had the discipline to earn a patch.
This is probably the best video I've seen from you showing the differences in Attitude towards club members and non-club members. I have yet to have a good experience with full patched club members of any club. But if I ever wanted and (this is all hypothetical because I don't even ride to be in a club) I probably want to join yours man. You seem like the type to want to educate a potential club member. Focus less on hazy and mistreating a potential brother and more about building them up equipping them with the right tools and knowledge that's what it's about.
I've been riding 57 years and at last count have covered 450,000 miles on a bike. I don't belong to a club, never have, never will because I prefer to ride alone or with at most one or two others. I don't consider myself a "biker". I consider myself a rider, for that's what I do and live for. Not the culture, not the advantages of a crowd, but the ride, me the road and my bike. All I ask is to be left alone to do what I love to do. You live your way and leave me to live mine.
As a former member of a support club, I have seen everything you mentioned and it's saddening sometimes because egos get too big and it all goes to shit. Do I missed the parties and brotherhood? Sure do but I am loving the freedom I have now.
Yea it gets greater
Lol *You guys and your "Club" remind me of a Tracy Chapman song where it says "I had a feeling that i belonged a feeling i could be someone"* :D
First I gotta say thanks for representing the clubs that started in Australia & are now world wide.
I grew up in Sydney & ever since I could hold on I’ve been on bikes & I was always taught to be respectful to anyone who wore a patch.
I have been riding over 55yrs, I was never in a club. Now I have been the leader of a group, we have been riding with some big clubs. We are not a MC we are a Gun Club who ride. We don’t look for trouble we have a Two part patch some of the young men in 1%clubs act as if we are a MC an feel some kind of threat, I don’t understand this BS we have veterans and kids who ride with us.
It's because they're probably a loser. I've spent a lot of my young life fighting groups of blokes alone. If you can get the upper hand early with words, they all crumble. Some men just really need to be told by other men what to do and think.
Good info man, I’ve been around clubs quite a bit so I understand it, but it’s good you’re making these videos so those who may not know can find out and understand as well.
I appreciate that!
That's why everybody loves and appreciates you man right there
Appreciate you
Very informative. I've been riding since 1993 and have never been in an MC, but learning a lot about them on this channel. I have run across a lot of MC's and most of them pretty respectful and friendly. I know there are some "unfriendly" ones out there, but that goes with just normal people too. Thanks for putting this information out there. Don't understand the issue with anyone wearing anything related to any sort of organization. I am ex military and if I got offended by everyone wearing military style garb my whole life schedule would be ruined. You don't know everyone's story.
Awesome video as always. You should talk about Japan's Outlaw biker clubs, the Bosozoku. They are an interesting bunch and share lots of similarities with the american outlaw clubs.
Hit me with info demonsrow@gmail.com lets try to make some history
I really like how you bring up alot of the topics you cover. From the time I was a kids my old man was always running around with clubs. I can remember all of that from the SFV chapters etc etc. At the end of the day after seeing my old man hauled off up state for a while it really opened my eyes. We lost a house years with him and for what? Hanging around and knowing the dudes. After that I just didn’t want to be part of that club life. Do I give the guys respect that due, sure but it’s just not for me man. I have found that almost everyone one of them I run across (1% type) are all cool AF if you come across as genuine and respectful. Almost everyone one of them have helped me out or thrown me a bone when I was in someone place that was far away from home and one major club even invited me into the club house and that frankly was an honor seeing all the history and I’ll never forget that. Biggest thing is this, don’t be an ass because I promise you like he just said it’s a man’s game and if you FA you will FO fast.
I never had a problem with club members even when I first got on the road. My experience was respect goes a long way. My first encounter with a 1% was a positive one. I was on my bike and pulled into a rest area, there was a couple of bikers out there and I pulled in the spot next to them excited to see another rider. I nodded as I pulled in, I got off my bike and reached my hand out he looked down at my hand and said, I'm happy to shake your hand take off your sunglasses and gloves. Once I did he reached his hand out, he invited me over to a picnic table and gave me a friendly schooling while we all had some water and sodas. I never had a problem but I never gave attitude either.
You let another man treat you that way?? 😅
@@TingTingalingy what way? with respect and helping educate me so I didn't get into trouble. I don't take offense to people trying to help me out. This was back in the mid 80's times were different then. I learned a lot that day, back then you didn't disrespect people who were not disrespecting you. People were quicker to throw hands then tolerate your mouth.
@@oldmanbiker2 oh boy lol NVM you are that fool that annoys other riders thinking they want to talk to you because they're on a bike. I net you tell that tired story every chance you get "I was educated by a 1%er" lol
@@TingTingalingy Right... I see a lot of fan bois here acting like cucks because someone wearing a diamond patch was cool or chill to them...
I say F#%k em... I see a bandito rocker in texas and I knew I was dealing with a$$holes and cowards... I dont wanna shake your hand or be your buddy. I am a grown a$$ man with a full time job and $hit to do...
@@oldmanbiker2 haha that last part absolute truth
I'm not a rider, I'm not in any mc but love bikes and hang out with riders and members in motorcycle bars. If you respect and they respect you everything will be good. Thank you for your wisdom. Love from Poland 🇵🇱 ♥️
They don't own the road
You’re right we don’t own the road. That’s not what our attempt is at all. We know we don’t own the road. We are riding a 2 wheeled vehicle that has no cage around or nothing to protect it like y’all do with cars. People that have never rode a motorcycle don’t have a clue. One dumb person not paying attention and pulls out in front of you or swerve into you. They might get a little scratch or something very small. WE WILL BE DEAD. Literally. We will have to scrape one of our brothers off the payment. And we don’t want to do that. We wanna keep everyone that’s in our packs and ourselves safe as possible.
A formation is more about safety. I know it sounds backwards, but when you’re in one, the adrenaline is high and you don’t want anyone causing a disruption. It’s the same with five or fifty.
You just want to get where you’re going and together, without hassle.
Don’t judge it until you experience it. If you already have and didn’t like it, that’s okay too.
@@G.R.E.YMAFIA.M.C.7 You know cars really never have too much issue. In fact I have only ever had an MC try to bully me from passing them when I was on a bike. Lived in a few parts of the country north and south and been similar results in different areas with different 1%ers.
The Truckers do
@@StoneXue Pretty simple solution, don’t pass till the road captain gives you the go ahead lol. Not really that hard to figure out
Also, I have a lot of respect for you for what you said about the SofA vest. Nobody trying disrespect a real MC would wear a TV show vest they got on Amazon.
Done the group riding thing a few years ago. Some like a cage, some don't. I get the feeling that clublife is for folks that've been institutionalised in some way, ex cons, ex military, police, firefighters, orphans and suchlike. People who've spent a few years being told what to do and when to take a shit and now find it hard living without a big bag o rules and likeminded brothers.
At the end of the day, there are people who ride two wheels that aren't searching for something bigger than themselves to affiliate with. For those people, MCs are little more than a curiosity. Heck, such people don't even understand the posers' interest in wearing patches and cuts.
Good chapter. I've ridden 100k miles and honestly, never ridden up on an MC. Group rides yes, but an MC of any kind, not that I could tell. Simple fact is you don't need a 3 part patch to tell the world you love to ride. If you WANT to be YOURSELF, then show individuality, not conformity to someone else's standard. If you want to show someone you are not afraid of them, be polite. If you want to show someone you are insecure, act like you have a chip on your shoulder.
Very good point. I forgot about anonymous group rides with friends
You are right. It's a free country and the kid has the right to wear the SOA vest.
Great video man I'm 66 been around a mc since 1977 respect and being yourself has always worked for me I just wear a plain black vest.
Thank you
@@DemonsRow you are welcome I love your channel and I can tell you went to the college of hard knocks and majored in life . 👍✌️
I was in a nasty motorcycle accident and now ride a Harley Freewheeler trike, i had about 20 H.A pull into a gas station behind me, the road cptn struck up a conversation with me, i told him why i was on 3 and he shook my hand and said just getting back on the road was amazing. My asshole was sooo puckered up when they pulled in but talk about the most chill guys ever
Lol im glad
You say puckered up, I'd pray to not explode in anti-bully rage. I don't really fear much, but ppl can sure piss me of haha
@allanmcelroy9840 I didn't feel threatened at all, just was thinking "oh shit, don't act stupid, get your gas and go" but the guy started talking to me and it put me at ease
@@macwiller2105 good ppl skills helped then
@allanmcelroy9840 100% agree.. I'll talk to ANYBODY unless they give ne a reason not to and those guys definitely didn't.. the one guy was "you were in a coma from a bike wreck and got back on the road, that itself is badass" so maybe my story and the way I conducted myself made a difference 🤷
I have been riding a little over a year and appreciate how you educate on MC culture. I did hang around with a large MC for a while before I ever bought my bike because there club house was next to my friends shop and they were really cool guys. They let me in there Christmas party and the President even told me I could join the club if I wanted to. Just not my thing but I have no problems with MCs. Now watching your videos I have a whole new understanding of the life style. Thank you.
Im glad it helps
The SOA cut is funny to me. If that show put that kid on 2 wheels so be it. I only laugh. It doesn't bother me.
Thats how I see it... That show got a lot of teens and people in their 20s to wanna ride. The ego most of these bikers have is just childish as fuck. Thinking they own the road will really the ones who own the road are truckers that keep the USA running.
Those same people are wearing Yellowstone gear now. It's about what's popular.
@@guyknightley3499 he couldve been turned into a future prospect
@@guyknightley3499: I hate to burst your bubble of BS, but regardless of whether you're an M.C. biker, regular civilian driver, trucker, ect. NOBODY OWNS THE F'IN ROAD. You can drop the wannabe badass act, I don't think any M.C. bikers are too afraid of you or anyone really, nor should they be, so if anyone is bein' childish, it's the idiots like yourself runnin' your mouth in the comment section of a RUclips video, talkin' BS 'bout M.C. bikers you will never have the nerve to say to they're faces irl, grow up.
@Sosetheghost I love that you keep the outlook bakanced. I think the world would be a better place if more people looked at things as you do!
I spent 10 years in an MC (not a diamond club). At one of our runs when SoA was still cranking out fresh seasons I watched a RUB strut in to the poker stop like he owned the place. Didn't even hold the door for his lady. Stood around looking all bad-ass in his SoA patched vest. Some diamonds from a very violent club in our area didn't even talk to him. Just walked up, socked him and took his "cut". They very verbally made it clear he should leave immediately. He did. Again, not even checking on his woman, just making a bee-line out the door to his "custom" Harley and as soon as she was on the back he was fishtailing out of the parking lot. Normally I'm with you, let the guy wear his shit. But his attitude was far bigger than his common sense and you could tell he was a total D-Bag. So in that one case I was happy to see it go down that way.
that makes sense
GHO⚡️TIN BABY. The riders I hung around with would have thumped him for disrespecting the woman. I am surprised he could walk to his big $ bike.
Sounds made up.
@@cherissewinkle5135no they wouldn't 😂 they pimp them out. They don't respect any women
They did right on that one.
I’ll save you 15 minutes.
Do whatever the fuck you want.
If you’re a regular person that wants to ride a motorcycle, have fun, dress how you want, ride following the real laws and traffic rules, don’t let delusional people ruin your riding experience.
For real we appreciate you sharing this stuff with us. I’m a biker but not in any club
Much love
I'm at bike night almost every week at the local Harley, Outlaws are the dominate club out here, was standing there waiting for my patches to get sewn on by the guy that's always there (everyone goes through him for patches, an Outlaw needed a couple new patches because he went down and it messed up a patch but it was still attached to the vest that's why everyone, including Outlaws, use him) couple members of the Outlaws got in line behind me I noticed a memorial patch for someone I had just read about in the news who also happened to be a friend of a friend, I offered my condolences and we sat there talking about how good the man was that got killed on his bike (I had met him once or twice before he died) after that we were just BS'in about bikes and whatnot. Seen the same guy the other day he congratulated me on the 24 street glide I traded in my 09 softail for. The main thing people don't realize is guys in MC's are still people too, and at the end of the day whether you're a solo rider or MC member, we're all on 2 wheels.
I ride in a motorcycle association (not an MC). Worked with a buddy that was in a support club for a 1% club and at bike nights he would be sure I knew the protocol around his club and when the 1% club members showed up. I have a ton of respect for anyone who rides and never felt anything but mutual respect around all riders whether they were part of the support clubs or the 1% guys. Give respect, get respect. Keep up the great content!!
appreciate you
This is why I parked my bike and haven't ridden it in 5 years! I worked in high level politics for 20 years. When I walked away I just wanted to ride! Alone! No vest! No patches! Just me and my bike! What I found was there was more politics in riding than there was in actual politics!
I don't know how I came across this video. I ride, but don't really look into MC's. BUT, your edits are nice man! Keep it up!
Thanks kev
I've passed MCs on the road several times. It's just a matter of making sure they know you're there. It only takes a couple of minutes riding behind and the guy in the back gives you the signal that it's okay. Those guys ride tight and close and if some yo-yo goes ripping by, it could startle someone and cause a very severe accident. Honestly, it's never been an issue for me. Just give them the "two fingers" when you pass and it's all good.
You actually listen to them?? 😅😅
@@TingTingalingy What are you, 16? 🤦♂️
@@BrandonWest87 nah bro, I'm 41, and I don't ask for permission to pass.
@@TingTingalingy Lol, yeah I’ll buy that for $1
@@BrandonWest87 Then you have an entire club following you. Seen that one.
I really enjoyed your video and your perspective on this topic. Ride on.
I passed an MC ride out one time and they caught up to me at the red light, the leader caught me and started kissing on my neck. Weird dudes
I've ridden for a long time and met a few club members here and there. The whole passing thing has never been an issue because it's just safe riding to let people know you're there if you're overtaking. The few conversations I've had have just been about motorbikes or riding.
Shit....15 years member in a national club, still active, and I hate MCs 😂😂😂
lol
5 yrs in for me (support club)and its definitely a love hate relationship
Thanks for sharing information and making me smart on the subject.
Glad it was helpful!
I’m considering a bike. Your content is really helpful. I’m not the MC type, but greet folks when I meet them.
Fortunately, it’s all been positive. Most seem glad that some “straight” considers them equal as men and shows courtesy and respect.
Do it Brotha! It's fun to get out and just cruise at your pace, whatever that is. There's a lot of good used ones people are trying to get rid of for good deals. 💪
im glad it helps
I was ridin solo gettin off at the Strugis exit during the rally. Had to slide in line with 1% club on the ramp they were 50+ deep. I told the guy next to me I’m not trying to break into your group. He was cool, and said he was glad I showed respect. Ran into them later in the week had some beers great dudes.
So kicking a person off his bike possibly killing or injuring them forever is keeping the Mc safe? Rrrriiight that could be called attempted murder especially if they are just a regular rider not in a club.
I consider myself a nomad, but a large portion of my childhood was spent in these club settings so I am well aware of the codes and proper code of conduct. Even if there is some cultural differences between EU and US biker/club culture, the codes are pretty much global. Stay respectful, do not be noisy about stuff that are not your business, do not wear anything that even remotely resemble a club patch and pose and remember the "you saw nothing, heard nothing and got nothing to say!" motto too.
I don't have any strong feelings one way or the other on clubs - on the one hand the idea of the brotherhood and earning stuff seems pretty good - on the other, the rules, mandatory events and yeah - the prospect period are a bit of a deterrent. I've been to a lot of "Get Yelled At And Do Pushups" schools in my life and I'm kind of done, but on the other hand I also get why you don't just want to let people in without knowing what they're about first.
The thing about the patches and stuff is the same - I get not wanting someone wearing YOUR club name or YOUR patch, but the state rockers, and 1% stuff... ok. I mean, there's people with fake martial arts schools too, teaching BS and claiming it's BJJ or Tae Kwon Do or whatever and you don't see real instructors going over and beefing with them.
Seems to me that if people - not just 1%s or Bikers but everyone - didn't assume what people are thinking and just laughed at them or ignored them there'd be less issues. Veterans have to do it all the time; actual stolen valor gets called out but I'm always hearing someone try to tell me about how the military works or what war is like because of what their dad or uncle or brother did but they never did it themselves. I just ignore them, or chuckle later - I don't need to beat them up even if I'm with other vets. I dunno why an SoA cut is disrespect - it's kind of silly, bro, unless the dude was actually Ron Pearlman but you handled it really well. If someone isn't actually doing something wrong like talking rude to you or your woman or your brother, or putting hands on you or your bike... it's probably not disrespect. Heck, the dude could have Asperger's and just not know!
But, same token, I like it that MCs don't tolerate people actually acting the fool around them. I remember someone saying - may even have been you - that if your kid's bus stop is on the street where a clubhouse is, probably no one will ever bother those kids. It's good when men act like men even if they have to get a little rough now and then.
interesting ending
Got my first bike at 19, a 1960s cafe racer (built from my garage). Got my 1st HD at 26, a rigid shovelhead bobber. I’m 43 now, ride a FLH bagger and love it. Never joined a club or patched-up, but respect them cats. I’m good with any bikes on the road.
✊🏽✌🏽From So-Cal USA🇺🇸
I have discovered that complimenting a biker on how cool their ride is (along with respect) goes a long way to creating a positive interaction with club members...
Sose you are the man. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Great content.
appreciate you hondo
Hey Bubba did you hear about that Polk County Sheriff Grady judge disrespected to Montrose color and jacket on national TV that sheriff don't care he's after any and every motorcycle group he can get
Send me a clip demonsrow@gmail.com
I saw it. He’s disrespected himself as much as the club. The need for votes make politicians do stupid things.
Grady Judd supports citizens having firearms and encourages using them against your pals. @@ProbablyTooLoud
@@TingTingalingyGrady is a cuck just protecting his career he doesn't give a shit about the people
I appreciate your honesty and keeping it real.
Ever doing another round of demons row rings?
There was such a disaster with that bro the dude disappeared everybody was tight at me then months later he started sending them if i do it i gotta buy it myself so i dont rely on a 3rd party
67 year old veteran. Had a stroke 6.5 years ago and had to give up my 10 year old Goldwing that I had put 250K miles on since it was new. The respect for older riders of metrics was/is sometimes lacking, but now that I have gone to three wheels (and god forbid that it is a Slingshot for the comfort of my wife and I) it is even less. A Slingshot, Vanderhall, and other non-traditional three wheeled vehicles are options for those of us that just want to ride and not be judged for the choices that we had to make as we get older. Sometimes two wheels are not enough or are a physical impossibility given our health issues.
Greetings all, I know my experiences are not from the USA, but the UK and more recently Australia. Years ago when we lived in the UK, I was ex military and knew a few MC bikers quite well, and one of my wife’s friends was married to the president of a big MC. I have ridden bikes all my life, longer than a lot of the MC, but was never really viewed by the MC as being a “Real” biker because I didn’t ride a chopper. Most MC guys are pretty cool people individually, but acted differently in a larger group, generally being aggressive dickheads. They obviously felt they had to for whatever reasons due to the club mentality. In the UK, MC’s didn’t stop you from overtaking, would acknowledge you on the road etc without the egotistical bullshit and there was never any trouble, as long as you didn’t behave like an arsehole yourself. I emigrated to Australia in 2009, and almost straight away, met a biker organisation (not MC) called the Ulysses Club. They wouldn’t even talk to us at the pub and looked at us like we were a piece of shit, a right bunch of arrogant pricks who were nothing special and is just a club for over 40’s bikers. A bit of a ramble I know, but these reasons I have never joined a bike club of any description. I am secure and confident in my own reasons why I am a proper biker who has always loved to ride and don’t feel less for not being a club member. I am my own man, a biker who likes to cut loose and not conform to bullshit. Long live all who ride, and grow old disgracefully but with respect to all.
I’m in a motorcycle association, not an MC. I’ve gotten along fine with Pistoleros, Bandidos, Saints and others. My most egregious offense was blasting by about a 20 rider deep group of Saints at about double their speed. A stoplight caught us and I apologized to the ride captain, introduced myself, what chapter I was in and offered my SAA’s contact info if I needed to make it right. He told me that just having the balls to apologize and offer a further conversation was good enough. Told him I’d wait for them to roll and apologize to the tail gunner too. We fist bumped, I apologized to the TG and we parted ways like adults.
A lot of the folks in my MA are afraid to talk to the MC guys for some reason. I’ll hang around if I think nobody in my MA has introduced themselves and wait to be spoken to, ask if anyone from my MA has introduced themselves and I’ll introduce myself either way. No gloves, no hat, no sunglasses, firm handshake and eye contact while speaking. It’s an easy day and we can all hang out at the same establishment without any issues.
lol
I you apologized to them?? 😂
@@TingTingalingy I’ve got a patch on my back too. 20 of them, 1 of me and I failed to follow protocol. Yeah, I apologized like a man. Actions have consequences.
@@BrandonWest87 you apologized for passing a bunch of cowards 😂😂😂
@@TingTingalingy A lot of fun to say nonsense on the internet. Different to live it. Only coward here is you, but it’s all good. Enjoy your Funyuns and Mt Dew.
Happy to you back T!!
Years ago I had to put my ride(78 Sportster) away. Still in mint condition, I just can't ride anymore.
Anyway, I've never, EVER, had any problems with MCs on the road. In fact, once, back in the late 80s, I broke down. I managed to walk the bike under an overpass to keep cool. After about 45 minutes of frustration, a MC(Breed MC out of Jersey), with about 25 riders pulled up on me. After some chit chat, one of them was their mechanic, approached and nicely asked me if he could look at the bike. I agreed. 10 minutes later, he had my bike running. He even adjusted my carburetor and fine tuned it!! Also, while waiting, one of their girls gave me a nice cold drink. Also, they would not accept any money from me. And let me ride with them all the way to Ohio, where I got off(They were going to Sturgis).
Moral of the story: Bikers are people too.
You give them respect, you'll get respect.
This was a great video. I was at Gail's Harley in the KCMO metro for a cruise event, and a few GGs were in the store. I struck up a conversation with them, and we chatted for about 10 minutes. Afterwards, a friend asked why the hell I would do that. Told him, "Treat people with respect, and you can talk to about anyone. In short, don't be a dumbass."
I have ridden all over the world and have come across clubs of all sorts. The bottom line is Respect is universal. If you are respectful the situation always seems to work out. If your an idiot then bad shit happens.
This was one of the best videos! It has answered a lot of my questions! Thank you! When I am riding I just show and project respect! To all! I’ve never had a problem when chatting with any MC ! I do not want to be in a MC, I would love to see a video about, how people feel when riding in a big pack of bikes! If sober riding is mandatory no reefer no booze! One wrong move and it’s dominos!
o/ Sup, got into your videos because I am curious about MC culture (I dont plan on joining an MC, but I am saving up for my first bike)
This video was helpful for me to understand why bikers might want to join an MC, and also kind of refreshing hearing someone understanding both sides. Me, personally, MC clubs seem like places full of stuffed-up dudes who are basically roleplaying in order to feel important, but your videos helped me realize its just a culture between guys. ... and outlaws, I guess.
I think as I become a biker I'll eventually come around these types, but I hope I'll get approached respectfully instead of getting ran off the road, you know?
This was your best episode yet. More please.
Yeah well hell. I'm almost 60 I've been riding for a long time but I really appreciate your insight I having much understanding now and appreciate your channel
I've enjoyed watching your videos over the years. Thank you.
5:37 “PROTOCOL” i’m hollering.
Folks should *just* know themselves and be who they are. I say *just* but that ain’t trivial.
I live in a state with multiple major MCs, tight non-affiliated MCs, solid support MCs, solid clean & sober MCs, serious MMs, and tons of good independent folks… been in all kinds of situations good and tense, been in their homes and them in mine, call some good friends, not a light thing.
Pardon my rambling, folks just be who they are, remember that old, “Each to their own.”, keep your head on a swivel and keep the big picture….and most importantly… enjoy the wind!
Keep up the good work.
I was riding in the early 80s. 1MC club.
At my Hometown. We all knew each other. We never had any problems with him. We were all friends. We got along. Even at the same bars. We just have good times together. We respected them and they respected us.