So I actually have experience with this and can help. I used to camp out below 32°F quite often in scouts In a hammock. Now here is the weird and different parts. My hammock was a tarp from Walmart doubled up and tied on both ends. The tarp keeps you warmer than a traditional hammock because it doesn't breath at all. Then I put down a thick moving blanket or a thick old bed comforter and put my sleeping bag in that in the hammock. I would crawl in and wrap my self in the blanket when I was done and I was always warm. Now the details are fuzzy. I know my bag was 0°F rated but I can't remember if I used sleeping pads or not. In a hammock like mine I had to lay with the curve because tarp would let you slide out and hit the ground. But with just a tarp a bag and a thick blanket while only wearing a sweat shirt and jeans. ( No layering.....yeah I know....) I was always comfortable. I tried ground camping with everything I owned in weather that was maybe -20°F and I was way colder than in my hammock. I proved to everyone that you can be warm in a hammock when winter camping. And that you don't need fancy under quilts as well. ( Had no idea they existed when I was a younin.) Just a short long story about a dumb kid with dreams of sleeping in the trees.
I am trying to visualise the set up you described and want to experiment with different things , I wish you would do a video because all this info is inspiring and urges me to follow. Thanks for sharing
@@joedee1863 ah well then you might like "The eccentric hammock" it's a channel I started where I want to show everyone the eccentric things you can do with hammocks
Great advice! What I've done in my winter set up is the pod set using the Snugpak version. I position an emergency orange/reflective blanket either onto the hammock or slide it between the hammock and the pod which acts like an additional wind deflector and helping to trap more heat given off by your body. One of those car windshield deflectors will also work. I've slept in temperatures down to 25 fahrenheit with just a woobie or Snugpak jungle blanket inside the pod. A foam pillow (Thermarest) will help to keep your head warm. In bushcraft camping I use a 32 ounce Pathfinder bottle, heat water to a boil, secure the bottle in a wool sock and place it in my hammock before getting in; or strategic placement of hand warmers works wonders. Keep a couple of extra packets in the pouch that's sewn into the side of most hammocks. I've found these get cooler around four to five hours after activation. Eating a snack before going to bed activates your "inner furnace" helping to keep you warm. Coffee and alcohol (unless you pass out!) do the opposite. Wearing a fresh pair of socks (Darn Tough for me), a balaclava or neck gaiter and a ski hat helps...i.e., layering can add to your comfort, remove if too warm. Never allow yourself to sweat! For us guys, no harm in using a urinal or pee bottle in your hammock; besides, why would you want to egress from a warm bedroll to take a piss. Just make sure you tighten the lid to your bottle or your urinal cap is secured. That's a lesson you don't want to learn when there's a cold ass wind blowing...LOL. Another hack is to place a cut piece of tyvek on the ground where you egress; place your hiking shoes or boots on the tyvek and cover them with what's available. A Walmart bag works. I carry two 55gl contractor bags on every adventure and use one to put my boots and pack in; no fun in cleaning up rain and mud splatter.
When I camped with my hammock and sleeping bag (rated 40f), it was pretty cold (32f). So I made an underquilt with a cheap blanket and paracord. Worked just fine. During the night I had to throw an extra blanket over me and that took care of it. I was pretty warm. I had an all night fire but it was too far away for me to feel any benefit. The fire primarily kept critters away. I only go in the winter here because we have snakes and alligators (big ones) and they are asleep then.
Awesome video there is also another way I personally use a sleeping bag in a hammock and it’s to tie the four corners onto the hammock to use the sleeping bag just as an under quilt And it works a charm
Another great video! Thank you also for your service and hope you had a great Veteran's day. It makes me think of my dad who served in Korea and survived Pork Chop Hill and Old Baldy. Not enough can be said or done for those who served our country.
Thank you, Russell. That means a lot. On my desk, next to me. Is an envelope full of pictures of my dad and his buddys. While fighting in Korea. My uncle gave it to me the other day. Are you thinking about any trips like Da Shack Hang?
I had thought of using my sleeping bag as a pod system like this but wasn't sure how it would work out. Looks ok! I'm in Australia so it's never really that cold and I always have the toe box unzipped so I can stick my feet out through the night to regulate my temp. Thanks for the info!
I believe the pod system would be too warm for most places down under. I love how you regulate the heat in the foot box. Thank you for watching Heather. I always appreciate it.
@@AdventureswiththeMarine Having hammock camped out in the red center, I can confirm you'll want a bag. Up in the sub-tropics it may not be necessary but from there south on the continent you'll want a bag to meet conditions (it gets relatively cold some places down there).
I only use hammocks, and I only use a down top quilt. It does not zip together at all. I stay plenty warm, I do not tuck it either, it's just a very fluffy blanket. But then again, I'm a hot sleeper.
Great informative video overall. I do have one thing to correct though: not all synthetic insulation is created equal. Newer (more expensive) random fills are very packable vs their warmth rating. I have a synthetic bag I use for 3 seasons that packs smaller than my down bag and will take me down to 35 comfortably. You also make the statement that “if you are backpacking, you’ll need a down sleeping bag.” I hear a lot of the community say this, but they don’t live in the PNW. The Olympic national rainforest (where I frequent) gets more annual rain than the Amazon. It is always damp there. Unless it drops below freezing, for me synthetic simply works better. Other biomes that could be different. Just pointing out that nothing here is universal. Mission dictates gear marine. 😏
You know, I was wondering to myself, "Why can't I just stuff the hammock inside of the sleeping bag?" Then I saw this video. I like the idea of tying it off on the foot end so it doesn't creep up and expose my feet. Well played sir. Well played.
I use a bottom quilt and a sleeping bag and a small morino wool blanket in cold weather I've gotten it down to 10 degrees and was still warm its all about layers!!
I use the pod system (glad I have a name for it now), because I'm a cheap bastard and thought "who needs a top and bottom quilt when this spare Coleman sleeping bag (50*F) has two zippers" when I first got into hammock camping. That plus a fleece blanket from the dollar store sees me (clothed and generally less sensitive, so YMMV) down into the 40's comfortably. Being a cheap square and decently wide bag it accommodates a number of sleeping positions and angles. I'm usually camping while on a motorcycle or road trip in the truck (or even canoeing) so the weight and bulk of the bag aren't an issue. I've got a Big Agnes down bag (which is basically a top quilt sewn to a ground pad sleeve) for when the weather is really cold and I'm hiking, but I mostly just use it as intended on the ground since it's not really a full bag (though I have made it work in the hammock by holding it closed around me). I tend to sleep on my side and ball up, so I've never needed to keep it stretched out lengthwise, and hadn't considered adding tie lines for that purpose but I could see how for some folks it might be a good idea. I've thought about sewing a few velcro tabs to make it easier to close up once in the hammock.
I camp exclusively in winter as it allows me to have a fire without worrying about copping fines during fire ban seasons. I use the last method to keep warm when it gets to around freezing, if it drops below I use 2 bags, one around the hammock and my down bag as a top quilt inside, works a charm.
Thanks for the great video. I used a 15 deg sleeping bag as a top quilt this past winter and it worked okay. Nothing is a substitute for a good top and underquilt .
Exactly what I do also! Use all my mummy bags as top quilts as I hate to be restricted in a zipped bag. Along with a good pad I'm plenty warm. Also my Clark has storage pockets underneath that help trap air and keep the breeze out.
Very informational video. I used a military sleep system with a reflective pad in my Eno in the beginning. Went to zero. A lot of zippers to mess with thou. Also used a 16 foot Kelty tarp. Worked pretty good. Now I have a Warbonnet Superfly. Love the doors. Love my down quilts. Thanks for your service. Take care and stay safe, Al
I have a lot of different taps. But if I where to choose one. I would probably take the super fly because I love hammock camping in the winter. When Runner started hammock camping. I told him that he should get the best all around tarp. I believe that will be the only tarp he will own. And we have many years to go. God willingly. It is always good to hear from you Al.
I'm thinking of modding my synth bag for pod use then using my down inside that so I have options, one, both or go overkill and add leafage underneath to pad it and blankets too, don't need to USE all options but nice to have them.
I have used as too quilt but never thought of wrapping around the hammock. I tried my pad but it slides too much even though it’s inside a slip cover on bottom of bag. As an overweight older female it’s a pain to unzip & get in & out to go pee. Like your suggestion I could justify buying a top quilt & make easier to enter/exit. Plus, save money from not buying an under quilt. Least until a long trip
With the sleeping bag warped around the hammock to create a cocoon. Can get pretty warm and less room. thank you Sheilahenry for watching. i really appreciate it.
i sleep a lot in hammock in freezing Norway in temp below 0 and the most imortant thing is bug net due to it hold constant temp which is not depand on wind flow, it makes some kind of term-coocon. My best system is winter underquilt, winter sleeping bag(open as a wrap) with comfort -10, bug net, hammock and tree huggers, best tarp from dd hammock 4.5x3. Topquilt is not so good because you do not have a hood which takes huge role if it is very cold...you can put it on your face to sleep warmer, otherwise balakava must be on face to protect from cold air. I advice also some warm slippers because you lose great heat from your foes
Hey there. I have an underquilt as I have moved into hammock camping but haven’t invested in the too quilt. And as you and many others have suggested, I use it like a top quilt. Works great. Thanks for helping us stay off the ground comfortably. 👍👍
The top quilt system is the way to go! Thank you I just switched I was on the AT with my back crawling out of a tent was hurting me more. I was trying to figure out how to do the sleeping bag and this works! I dont like being confined in a bag and this solves that issues as well as easy to get in and out of. Well dang Army vet learned something from a Marine lol
I had to chuckle at the end... I've tried many different ways to stay warm and comfortable through the night in the hammock, some work better than others and I can't help but think 'You REALLY have to want to hang' because there is SO much screwing around with hammocking in general...Is it worth it...ABSOLUTELY!!!
My son Zac bought a Top Quilt last year. ( after 33 years he is finally starting to listen to me ). He uses both the tent and the hammock. He says that he can't believe how much better the top quilt is to the sleeping bag. Thank you for watching Mr. Wild Wales. I really appreciate it.
Usually the bottom side of the sleeping bag doesn't have as much fill as the topside, because it doesn't do much there anyway. You will be much better with a top quilt instead.
But remember. You can always migrate the down. ( moving the down with your form front. To the back). Thank you Vesanius for watching. I really appreciate it.
@@AdventureswiththeMarine Absolutely if the structure of the sleeping bag allows that. Mine for example has separated sections for the down so it all doesn't go to one end, so I couldn't do it. But if you can then it's great that you can use it as a quilt when needed.
Going to modify what i have for a ..under quilt.So many awesome ideas you share thank you .Love learning and cant wait to try these ideas in the real world . Still working on remembering knots and practicing them .Strength to you .
The pod system looks best to me, if the sleeping bag is adequately modified, such as with a wide enough wedge, and adding a cinch at the foot end so you can cinch the foot hole tight. It would be nice if the sleeping bag were long enough that the foot cinch is even with the end of the hammock, but that means more customization I suppose. All you'd need then would be a blanket and an underquilt protector. The underquilt protector could be a custom ground cloth. I like the idea that wilderness innovation channel uses where he installs double sided snaps on everything. This way, you could just snap everything into place and it would stay put. If the hammock were a custom tarp, using cinches to gather the two ends and attach the hammock, then the whole shebang would be multipurpose; usable with or without the hammock setup.
For a cool Pod or Cocoon system. Superior Gear has a built-in Under quilt and a Top quilt called the cocoon that you zip on top. Very roomy and super warm. Thank you Slickwillie for sharing that. Good stuff!
@@AdventureswiththeMarine Yeah that's good. In fact I wonder if there is a way to have a sort of double rain shield, like a double walled tent, to deal with longer periods of rain. I suppose there would need to be like a couple of water proof sleeves that you just slide over the hammock, but a way to keep an air gap between them; not sure how to do that. Maybe that way you could ditch the tarp.
So... Hyke and Byke Antero bags are what you need. Also, the diagonal lay is nice and all, but as you noted it can create issues with a 'pod system' (like the bag I mention above). There's a hack for this. If you put an inflatable pillow under your thighs it'll change your position and put you in what feels like an amazingly comfortable recliner as you lay parallel in the hammock; this radically increases your thermal efficiency since you're having to heat a much smaller space. Happy hammocking!
God has blessed me in so many ways that I hope to share those blessings with others. Thank you for watching Ms. Brigitte. I really appreciate it. God bless.
Greetings Marine. I hope that you had a great Veterans day! Good info and on the important topic of insulation in the hammock. Cold butt syndrome is real! In the beginning I tried sleeping bags, foam mats, inflatable pads, windshield refectors, even reflectix, but didn't find a good solution until I began to diy unberquilts. I used polyester batting for the insulation and different matetials fir the shells, before settling on down quilts. Ahh comfort at last. With all of that said, If you like hammocking and are going to go in cooler temps, you should go ahead and get some down quilts. You can diy if you are into it, but the cost is worth it when you consider the comfort and packability of down. "Buy once, cry once". Best wishes. Oh by the way....did you get Henry dried out?
I use to do a lot of diy. But for some reason. I haven't made anything in years. ( I take that back. I still tie flies for fly fishing ). Maybe I getting lazy in my years. As for Henry. Once we hiked out in the dark. We had a four hour drive. When we arrived home. He was still a little wet. I am going to have come up with a better plan for him. I have been looking a pack boats so I can take him with me in the BWCA. But they are expensive. It is always good to hear from you Coughing Owl Outdoors.
Hi there I camp mostly beach, ocean front or near to. My preferred hammock is the Hennessy brand. Very nice for warm and humid environment. Deep in woods I camp with an Eureka or NorthFace, 3 seasons both of them. Hammock camping is my favorite option. Regards
Thanks for sharing! That would be so cool to camp on a ocean front. Sounds like you are very Blessed. Thank you Harold so much for watching. I really appreciate it.
I made a hammock slightly larger than the hammock I sleep in and then add a sleeping bag in that hammock and then place mine directly above it, it works ok for the most part as long as you arent compressing the bag beneath you
This peaked my curiosity cuz I have one of them military hybrid hammocks with the mosquito nets as well as two waterproof sleeping bags that are also Snow proof with some waterproof pillows course the hammock was supposed to actually is weather resistant from the paracords being able to run a tarp over it for roof but it picked my curiosity of ways to make it more comfortable
Sleeping on the diagonal gives you a comfy flat lie. I have found only a wide sleeping bag will allow you success in this technique. I find a nice wide thick seeping pad works better. To each their own.
The sleeping bag that I use, has a wedge zipped in. To make it wider. Always do what works for you. Thank you for watching G Henrickson. I really appreciate it.
@@AdventureswiththeMarine i would really like to but, I’m leaning more toward the Wisconsin frozen butt hang. Still not sure if I’m going to be able to do that. Have to be really careful unfortunately not to bring anything home. How about you?
Just remember. The sleeping bag used as a pod system can make a tight fit and hard to get asymmetrical inside the hammock ( unless you have a wide sleeping bag ). The pod system is also very warm. Get for cold temperatures. Thank you so much for watching MrAdam Davies. I really appreciate it.
Made that mistake on my first hammock camping trip. I used my mss black bag in my hammock @19°F. Didn’t have anything below me and it really sucked both nights lol.
When in that situation. It doesn't matter how many layers you put on top of you. If you are cold underneath. Your going to be cold. Thank you TFWS6 for sharing that and watching. I really appreciate it.
@@AdventureswiththeMarine I ended up tying a woobie to the bottom. I still wasn’t warm but the difference made by just a small amount of insulation was night & day. Great Channel!
Thank you for sharing that tag1462. I do try to sleep without a tarp at night to see the stars. But where I live. You can never trust the weather. Thank for watching. I always appreciate it.
Good tips, i should look into what kind of sleeping bag i've got. Not my first choice for backpacking but it has served me well! I was toasty warm with just my sleeping bag in my hammock. I was super low to the ground, literally inches off it. With a low tarp, maybe 6 inches above my hammock and corners pinned to the ground. Low air movement, and i had to take layers off in 9°C under a full moon. This was only my 2nd time actually hiking n camping out with my hammock setup, but it was amazing!
That is so great to hear. If you don't mind me saying. I would raise the tarp higher if it is not going to rain hard with high wind. And if dose rain lightly. But not too hard. And for any other time. Put up one side of the tarp to what is called porch mode, with hiking poles or branches. For a great view and ventilation. Thank you Michael for watching. I always appreciate it.
Good choice! What is really great with that hammock is the integrated under quilt. You don't have to adjust it every time you get in and out of your hammock. Let me know what you think when you try it out.
@@AdventureswiththeMarine I will! I’m going to set it up in my backyard and spend the night. I got the 15 degree hammock and quilt so I’ll put it to the test in December in snowy Utah!
I believe mine is close to 20 years now. And there is no doubt that is will be using it for another 20 years. Thank you VooDoo so much for watching. I really appreciate it.
Not to mention getting into a sleeping bag properly is a pain in the arse. How do i know this? I wonder. I have taken a sleeping bag and flipped it upside down to use as a top quilt before but also had an insulation layer underneath me. Early fall at 37 F, snug as a bug. Backpacking i use a down underquilt and a down throw from costco which is inexpensive. It has taken me 3 years to get it down to be comfortable and props goes out to the marine and Shug for all the tips i have learned.
Hello we are sorry we have taken some time in getting around to connecting to you but we have been very busy as of late and then we got stuck in Malta so now we are playing that good old catch-up game lol . Thanks for sharing this video. Love and Light Sarah and Glenn.
I will say about the sleeping bag question. I've always just used my sleeping bag when hammock camping! I use a "north face blue kazoo" it's a down bag rated for 15° F. Even my latest video is about me using it in 25°F in my hammock on a camping trip! That coupled with a sleeping pad is more than enough to have an enjoyable night in freezing conditions!! Oh I also use a bivi bag around the sleeping bag!! Just to raise the temperature rating a little bit and to keep dew off my down bag!! I will say that on that below freezing night, my butt did get cold but that was my fault for letting too much air out of the sleeping pad! And my toes got pretty cold from the wind ripping above the bag. I'm going on another trip in 2 weeks in the snow and for this one, I'm going to use an underquilt paired with my down bag, bivi bag, and sleeping pad. And also use a rainfly on this trip! The thought process is: the underquilt to help eliminate even more of that wind chill than just my pad, and the rainfly to help mitigate the wind chill from tearing at my feet as much! Sleeping bag in your hammock is totally doable!! I've had probably 15 over night trips now where I'm just using my sleeping bag and a sleeping pad, the temperature usually gets down to low 40s, high 30s. And I have great nights of sleep with that setup!! Highly highly recommend!!
@@AdventureswiththeMarine oh absolutely!! Thank you for all your content!! I'm going to be using your rainfly and bug net hanging videos to help me learn those few knots necessary before my next camping trip. Thank you!!
It will be the best night sleep out in the wilderness that you will ever have. When around tent campers. After showing them, and letting them try out my hammock. Almost every time that I see them again in the woods. They will be trying their new hammock. The problem now is finding enough trees for the prefect hang with a view. Thank you Anonymous for watching. I always appreciate it.
Good information and video. I use a zero degree mummy bag as a to quilt, with a good pad under me. Been down to 30. I did make a down under quilt but have not used it yet. Thanks and take care.
have any companies ever made a sleeping system where the bottom is a foam or inflatable mat with asoft top like microfleece and you zip a down quilt onto the top? seems like it would work and would not have the waste of the flattened down on the bottom
People have tried for along time to beat the high prices of these underquilts. I've even seen a video on making one out of an emergency blanket with packing tape, which seamed to work well by the way. Some have doubled Costco quilts. Personally I just found a really good down single bed quilt at goodwill and made my own. I doubt I'll ever go out below 30 degrees so I'm warm and satisfied. It was cheap, it looks good, and it's light. So I'll use my sleeping bag to the 50s, then I carry the quilt. If your going below that, why chance It? Be safe and front the cash! Of course that's just my opinion.
Just make sure you have good insulation underneath you Tracy. Unless you are trying the pod system. Using the sleeping bag like a top quilt works great. If you get to warm. Loosen it up. If you get cold. Tuck from the INSIDE, the sleeping bag underneath you. Starting under you legs and work your way up to make the space inside smaller to trap the warm air closer to you. You will be toasty warm. It is always good to hear from you Tracy. I hope you and your family are well.
@@AdventureswiththeMarine That's nice of you to say. I've been trying to use an air pad on my hammock, but can't get a good angle. Still working on that. Thx so much
The pod method isn't something I have tried yet because I didn't think it would allow a diagonal flat lay. Do I understand that this can be corrected by adding the appropriate amount of width with a custom section zipped in? If that's the case, I'd be ahead by sewing a small quilt with zippered sides that mate with my bag. I might just try that with some new polyester OD green yardage I just bought. I'm thinking that a good way to measure is to pin the bag in place underneath and measure where the top drapes. With a mummy, I can only guess that there will be a lot to add, but at worse, I could just go with an underquilt....Homemade if course.
The underquilt is much better option. The pod system is really for those very cold nights. Otherwise you will become to hot in it. And you will need a large, wide sleeping bag. Especially in the footbox. I love the Homemade. Thank you Preacher Man for watching. Much appreciated.
You can only use a portable bug net. The integrated bug net will not work. But having a sleeping bag as a cocoon or pea pod. Would be too hot for the summer. When the bugs love to bite. Thank you for watching Joe. I really appreciate it.
@@AdventureswiththeMarine : thanks for that. I watch so many vids on the backpacking stealth camping and have bought quite a bit of gear, and feeling ready to go for it. This tarp and hammock thing is like nothing I've ever done before. I just want it to go well. I have been camping for years but this another level. Thanks for sharing such inspiring info.
The mosquito's at times can be really bad where I live. Nothing worst than trying to sleep with them chewing on you all night. Thank you Germix Antrax for watching. I really appreciate it.
So… hear me out… could I use a sort of space blanket (those papery-thin almost tinfoil type blankets) as an underquilt? Theoretically I can hang it in a way that it traps a small pocket of air and stuff surely?
I like your thinking. If the is no gaps to let in cold air. It will work. But how well, I don't know. Please test it out and let me know how low of a temperature you got down too.
New to hammock camping but I had a thought that idk if it would work but could you use a sleeping bag as a make shift underquilt in a pinch... as in attaching under with some tie offs?
Some people that are creative. Have taken an old sleeping bag. And cut and sewn and added shock cord on the ends to make a under quilt. But it has to conform to the body underneath with no gaps. Thank you Ak for watching. Much appreciated!
Thanks for the great information. I just ordered my son an ENO Skylight hammock and the warmest bottom and top quilts they offer. He'll will be winter camping in temps probably as low as the high teens occasionally. Considering that he'll have both the bottom and top quilt (top quilt is is closed at the bottom like a sleeping bag in up to about waist height) would ypu recommend that i also get him a, say 20°f down bag to go with that? Or do you think he would be better off going with a blanket since the top quilt is already a sort of sleepin bag itself? Thanks again!
A 11ft. hammock would be the best for you. If you are using to sleep overnight ( camping ). But, the best hammock is the one you have. Thank you WannaJumpBikes for watching. I really appreciate it.
@AdventureswiththeMarine sent the onetigris back and got the onewind 11ft zippered. Can't wait for weekend to go try it out. Might try and do an overview video 🤣
Can you make a pod system work with integrated bugnet? Do you try to stretch the sleeping bag over a structural ridgeline? Also, what is the hammock you are using in that video?
No, that would not work with a hammock with a integrated bug net. I take it that you only have a hammock with a integrated bug net that can not be removed?
Bag going over only the section of the hammock in which you actually lay. Structural ridge line is not involved with the old. You would need a separate bug net. That could go over the ridgeline, best if it's a bottom entry.
Hi , Im new to the hammock outdoors and thinking what if I use two sleeping bags that I have. I don't have these new type of sleeping bags but the old version with cotton whatever else they stuff it with when late fall comes. One for a liner and the other to sleep in. What's your thoughts on it.
If you are going to sleep on top of one of them. Your in luck that you don't have one those high quality down sleeping bag. When you lay on down. It smashes the loft. Which provides near 0 insulation. But your old ones. Though they are bulky to backpack. Are much better to lay on. What I would do is go to a department store. Get a cheap closed foam mat. Lay the mat down in the hammock first. Then the sleeping bag on top of the matt. Take the other sleeping bag. Zip the foot end up to18 inches. ( to create a footbox )Flip it upside down. Put your feet in the footbox. Take the upper part and tuck in around your side. And use as a top quilt. You will need to wear a socking hat. And maybe a light jacket or sweatshirt. But that would work just fine. Thank you Robert for watching. I really appreciate it.
If you are good at sewing. Or know someone. And also creative. You could take a sleeping bag and use it as an under quilt. You will need shock cord to hold it up against you leaving no gaps for the cold air to get in. If you try it. Please keep me informed. Thank you Trapper-kl5tl for watching. Much appreciated!
Well I agree but the lowest -recorded- temperature I've been in a sleeping bag using a hammock is -4 degrees Celsius, so I'm very surprised you said lucky to get down to 15 celcius unless you mean negative 15?
Thank was with a sleeping bag. For a long time I have been using a Top and Under Quilt. In which early this year. I used them at temperatures as low as -38 Celsius. Running a sleeping bag through the hammock. Like a cocoon. Making sure that both ends are closed. You could get down in some extremely cold temps. Thank you for watching Cleveland explorer. I really appreciate it.
I live in northwestern British Columbia Canada, I have a hammock and tarp system in my survival pack, I have a underquilt on order, what is the best solution for temps down to -30 to -40°C?
im looking to be able to camp down into around 40 degrees farenheit in a hammock, and i currently only have a cheap synthetic 40 degree rated sleeping bag, what would be the most budget friendly way to get down to that temperature without adding a crazy ammount of weight
That is a great question. The best inexpensive way is putting a closed foam mat underneath you. But the problem is that they slide around too much. And they are also bulky. The best would be a 3/4 length under quilt. There is three different types of insulation inside. 1. Is synthetic. It would work just fine in those temperature's. And they are the most inexpensive. But they are the heaviest and bulkiest of the three. 2. Duck down. They are lighter and less bulk. But the price is now higher. 3. Goose down. This would be the best insulation fill. Lightest of the three and less bulk. But the most expensive. I would suggest any one of these three. Use your cheap 40° synthetic sleeping bag as an Top Quilt ( Zip it down to where there is 18 inches on the bottom to create a footbox. And flip over and tuck in the sides to use as a top quilt. You may need to sleep with a light jacket or long underwear.) When it comes to hammock camping. A under quilt is a great investment. After buying a quality hammock. That would be the next piece of gear that I would purchase.
I am new to hammoking . Went on a fishing trip this last weekend. . And set up my hammock ok first night temp about 10C at night and it rained... noticed my sleeping bag kep slipping on my sleeping pad. The next night temp dropped to 37F 3C and i didnt have an underquilt...man i froze so bad the sleeping bag kept slipping down to my waist i was lucky to have a balyclava and gloves and hade few layers on ...but i was so cold at one point id get hyperthermia.....so how to prevent sleeping bag from slipping
If you are using a good sleeping pad that is insulated. Then you zip the sleeping bag down to where there is 18 inches ( 45 cm ) to the feet at the bottom. To create a footbox. Flip the sleeping bag over, so it is upside down. Put your feet in the footbox and tuck the material around you sides. All the way up to the neck. When sleeping on down. Your body weight will smash the loft down to where there is not much of an insulated value. I have slept on a closed foam mat at the same temperatures. And it work pretty well. You don't slip around to bad. The wider the mat. The better.
If you want to use the sleeping bag as a cocoon or pod system. You will need to attach a piece of shock cord to the suspension then to the hammock. The hammock will need a loop sewn in on each end of the sleeping bag to attach the shock cord too.
@@AdventureswiththeMarine thank you. I’ve hammock camped in 32° weather with a 30° sleeping bag and an under quilt and I was still fairly cold. I realized what I was missing was a nice warm hat on my head. I lost a lot of heat out of my head. I’m just trying to find the best set up in the most comfortable set up for me.
That is the Western Mountaineer Sycamore. I have had that sleeping bag for many years. I bought a wedge for it, to make it wider. Now a days, they are very expensive. But so well made to last a life time, if taken care of. Thank you Derka for watching. I really appreciate it.
I have seen a guy who woke up in the middle of the night. Moving his hammock away from the lake to the back woods. Trying to get out of the wind. Hoping to find warmth. It looks like you had double trouble. Thank you Primal_SLvEye for watching. I really appreciate it.
The need for a under quit kills the hammock for the role I what to us it for can we not use a space blanket on the floor or suspended, or can you hang two hammocks and fill it with dry leaves or clothes etc
That is where a bug net or winter cover shine. They will always keep the inside. Instead of on the ground. And also. A wider hammock helps a little. But when sleeping. If isn't to warm. Make sur you top quilt is tucked in on both sides. Having a narrow hammock can make this a little more challenging. Thank you shawn pire for watching. I really appreciate it.
So I actually have experience with this and can help. I used to camp out below 32°F quite often in scouts In a hammock. Now here is the weird and different parts. My hammock was a tarp from Walmart doubled up and tied on both ends. The tarp keeps you warmer than a traditional hammock because it doesn't breath at all. Then I put down a thick moving blanket or a thick old bed comforter and put my sleeping bag in that in the hammock. I would crawl in and wrap my self in the blanket when I was done and I was always warm. Now the details are fuzzy. I know my bag was 0°F rated but I can't remember if I used sleeping pads or not. In a hammock like mine I had to lay with the curve because tarp would let you slide out and hit the ground. But with just a tarp a bag and a thick blanket while only wearing a sweat shirt and jeans. ( No layering.....yeah I know....) I was always comfortable. I tried ground camping with everything I owned in weather that was maybe -20°F and I was way colder than in my hammock. I proved to everyone that you can be warm in a hammock when winter camping. And that you don't need fancy under quilts as well. ( Had no idea they existed when I was a younin.) Just a short long story about a dumb kid with dreams of sleeping in the trees.
Thank you for sharing that RC Excursions. What a great story. I loved how you improvised. How you overcome and conquered.
I am trying to visualise the set up you described and want to experiment with different things , I wish you would do a video because all this info is inspiring and urges me to follow. Thanks for sharing
@@joedee1863 ah well then you might like "The eccentric hammock" it's a channel I started where I want to show everyone the eccentric things you can do with hammocks
Thanks, I always wondered how a tarp would work as a hammock
Great advice! What I've done in my winter set up is the pod set using the Snugpak version. I position an emergency orange/reflective blanket either onto the hammock or slide it between the hammock and the pod which acts like an additional wind deflector and helping to trap more heat given off by your body. One of those car windshield deflectors will also work. I've slept in temperatures down to 25 fahrenheit with just a woobie or Snugpak jungle blanket inside the pod. A foam pillow (Thermarest) will help to keep your head warm. In bushcraft camping I use a 32 ounce Pathfinder bottle, heat water to a boil, secure the bottle in a wool sock and place it in my hammock before getting in; or strategic placement of hand warmers works wonders. Keep a couple of extra packets in the pouch that's sewn into the side of most hammocks. I've found these get cooler around four to five hours after activation. Eating a snack before going to bed activates your "inner furnace" helping to keep you warm. Coffee and alcohol (unless you pass out!) do the opposite. Wearing a fresh pair of socks (Darn Tough for me), a balaclava or neck gaiter and a ski hat helps...i.e., layering can add to your comfort, remove if too warm. Never allow yourself to sweat! For us guys, no harm in using a urinal or pee bottle in your hammock; besides, why would you want to egress from a warm bedroll to take a piss. Just make sure you tighten the lid to your bottle or your urinal cap is secured. That's a lesson you don't want to learn when there's a cold ass wind blowing...LOL. Another hack is to place a cut piece of tyvek on the ground where you egress; place your hiking shoes or boots on the tyvek and cover them with what's available. A Walmart bag works. I carry two 55gl contractor bags on every adventure and use one to put my boots and pack in; no fun in cleaning up rain and mud splatter.
Great info. Thank you for sharing Alexander.
Top comment. Thanks for sharing
When I camped with my hammock and sleeping bag (rated 40f), it was pretty cold (32f). So I made an underquilt with a cheap blanket and paracord. Worked just fine. During the night I had to throw an extra blanket over me and that took care of it. I was pretty warm. I had an all night fire but it was too far away for me to feel any benefit. The fire primarily kept critters away. I only go in the winter here because we have snakes and alligators (big ones) and they are asleep then.
Thank you for sharing that AirstripBum. Good stuff.
Thank you for speaking in double temp F/C° :) Soo much easier to follow along without having to look up the temp all the time!
You are so welcome. Thank you Anniinthewoods for watching. I really appreciate it.
Awesome video there is also another way I personally use a sleeping bag in a hammock and it’s to tie the four corners onto the hammock to use the sleeping bag just as an under quilt And it works a charm
Great tip! I will have to give that a try. Thank you for sharing that Louie. I really appreciate that.
Another great video! Thank you also for your service and hope you had a great Veteran's day. It makes me think of my dad who served in Korea and survived Pork Chop Hill and Old Baldy. Not enough can be said or done for those who served our country.
Thank you, Russell. That means a lot. On my desk, next to me. Is an envelope full of pictures of my dad and his buddys. While fighting in Korea. My uncle gave it to me the other day. Are you thinking about any trips like Da Shack Hang?
I had thought of using my sleeping bag as a pod system like this but wasn't sure how it would work out. Looks ok! I'm in Australia so it's never really that cold and I always have the toe box unzipped so I can stick my feet out through the night to regulate my temp. Thanks for the info!
I believe the pod system would be too warm for most places down under. I love how you regulate the heat in the foot box. Thank you for watching Heather. I always appreciate it.
@@AdventureswiththeMarine Having hammock camped out in the red center, I can confirm you'll want a bag. Up in the sub-tropics it may not be necessary but from there south on the continent you'll want a bag to meet conditions (it gets relatively cold some places down there).
Having experienced a cold back when using a hammock, this advice is great!
Glad it was helpful! Thank you for watching SmithandWessen22A for watching. I really appreciate it.
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I only use hammocks, and I only use a down top quilt. It does not zip together at all. I stay plenty warm, I do not tuck it either, it's just a very fluffy blanket. But then again, I'm a hot sleeper.
Great informative video overall.
I do have one thing to correct though: not all synthetic insulation is created equal. Newer (more expensive) random fills are very packable vs their warmth rating. I have a synthetic bag I use for 3 seasons that packs smaller than my down bag and will take me down to 35 comfortably.
You also make the statement that “if you are backpacking, you’ll need a down sleeping bag.” I hear a lot of the community say this, but they don’t live in the PNW. The Olympic national rainforest (where I frequent) gets more annual rain than the Amazon. It is always damp there. Unless it drops below freezing, for me synthetic simply works better. Other biomes that could be different. Just pointing out that nothing here is universal.
Mission dictates gear marine. 😏
Thank you for sharing that Laconian Concepts. I really appreciate it.
@@AdventureswiththeMarine cheers brother. Keep up the great work!
Great explanation of why underquilts are the way to go for hammocks. Nice job!
Glad it was helpful! Thank you DesertGuy so much for watching. I really appreciate it.
You know, I was wondering to myself, "Why can't I just stuff the hammock inside of the sleeping bag?" Then I saw this video. I like the idea of tying it off on the foot end so it doesn't creep up and expose my feet. Well played sir. Well played.
Thank you Plumbingdummer for watching. I really appreciate it.
I use a bottom quilt and a sleeping bag and a small morino wool blanket in cold weather I've gotten it down to 10 degrees and was still warm its all about layers!!
You are so right Rick. I believe a layering system is the best way to stay warm. Make sure you keep the people informed. Thank you for watching sir.
I use the pod system (glad I have a name for it now), because I'm a cheap bastard and thought "who needs a top and bottom quilt when this spare Coleman sleeping bag (50*F) has two zippers" when I first got into hammock camping. That plus a fleece blanket from the dollar store sees me (clothed and generally less sensitive, so YMMV) down into the 40's comfortably. Being a cheap square and decently wide bag it accommodates a number of sleeping positions and angles. I'm usually camping while on a motorcycle or road trip in the truck (or even canoeing) so the weight and bulk of the bag aren't an issue. I've got a Big Agnes down bag (which is basically a top quilt sewn to a ground pad sleeve) for when the weather is really cold and I'm hiking, but I mostly just use it as intended on the ground since it's not really a full bag (though I have made it work in the hammock by holding it closed around me).
I tend to sleep on my side and ball up, so I've never needed to keep it stretched out lengthwise, and hadn't considered adding tie lines for that purpose but I could see how for some folks it might be a good idea. I've thought about sewing a few velcro tabs to make it easier to close up once in the hammock.
Thank you so much Duall Bringer for sharing that. Good stuff.
I camp exclusively in winter as it allows me to have a fire without worrying about copping fines during fire ban seasons. I use the last method to keep warm when it gets to around freezing, if it drops below I use 2 bags, one around the hammock and my down bag as a top quilt inside, works a charm.
Great point! Thank you Leslie for sharing that. Much appreciated.
Thanks for the great video. I used a 15 deg sleeping bag as a top quilt this past winter and it worked okay. Nothing is a substitute for a good top and underquilt .
I agree! Thank you for watching Jerry. I always appreciate it.
Exactly what I do also! Use all my mummy bags as top quilts as I hate to be restricted in a zipped bag. Along with a good pad I'm plenty warm. Also my Clark has storage pockets underneath that help trap air and keep the breeze out.
Thank you rex woodcutter for sharing that. I really appreciate it.
Very informational video. I used a military sleep system with a reflective pad in my Eno in the beginning. Went to zero. A lot of zippers to mess with thou. Also used a 16 foot Kelty tarp. Worked pretty good. Now I have a Warbonnet Superfly. Love the doors.
Love my down quilts. Thanks for your service. Take care and stay safe, Al
I have a lot of different taps. But if I where to choose one. I would probably take the super fly because I love hammock camping in the winter. When Runner started hammock camping. I told him that he should get the best all around tarp. I believe that will be the only tarp he will own. And we have many years to go. God willingly. It is always good to hear from you Al.
I'm thinking of modding my synth bag for pod use then using my down inside that so I have options, one, both or go overkill and add leafage underneath to pad it and blankets too, don't need to USE all options but nice to have them.
Thank you Old Navajo Tricks for sharing that. I really appreciate it.
I have used as too quilt but never thought of wrapping around the hammock. I tried my pad but it slides too much even though it’s inside a slip cover on bottom of bag.
As an overweight older female it’s a pain to unzip & get in & out to go pee. Like your suggestion I could justify buying a top quilt & make easier to enter/exit. Plus, save money from not buying an under quilt. Least until a long trip
With the sleeping bag warped around the hammock to create a cocoon. Can get pretty warm and less room. thank you Sheilahenry for watching. i really appreciate it.
I slept in 20° weather in my hammock with a Celtic sleeping bag, I never got cold. But I’ll definitely make sure to insulate more
Thank you for sharing that Jeffery. I really appreciate it.
i sleep a lot in hammock in freezing Norway in temp below 0 and the most imortant thing is bug net due to it hold constant temp which is not depand on wind flow, it makes some kind of term-coocon. My best system is winter underquilt, winter sleeping bag(open as a wrap) with comfort -10, bug net, hammock and tree huggers, best tarp from dd hammock 4.5x3. Topquilt is not so good because you do not have a hood which takes huge role if it is very cold...you can put it on your face to sleep warmer, otherwise balakava must be on face to protect from cold air. I advice also some warm slippers because you lose great heat from your foes
That is very good information. Thank youJaaa2055 for sharing that. Good stuff!
Hey there. I have an underquilt as I have moved into hammock camping but haven’t invested in the too quilt. And as you and many others have suggested, I use it like a top quilt. Works great. Thanks for helping us stay off the ground comfortably. 👍👍
Thank you John for sharing that. I really appreciate it.
The top quilt system is the way to go! Thank you I just switched I was on the AT with my back crawling out of a tent was hurting me more. I was trying to figure out how to do the sleeping bag and this works! I dont like being confined in a bag and this solves that issues as well as easy to get in and out of. Well dang Army vet learned something from a Marine lol
Thank you VetRuski Travels for sharing that. I really appreciate it.
I had to chuckle at the end... I've tried many different ways to stay warm and comfortable through the night in the hammock, some work better than others and I can't help but think 'You REALLY have to want to hang' because there is SO much screwing around with hammocking in general...Is it worth it...ABSOLUTELY!!!
I love setting up my hammock. Every hang is a different experience for me. I will take my time to try to achieve the ultimate hang.
My friend uses a quilt in the tent too its looks great to be fair and easy to kick off when you're too hot
My son Zac bought a Top Quilt last year. ( after 33 years he is finally starting to listen to me ). He uses both the tent and the hammock. He says that he can't believe how much better the top quilt is to the sleeping bag.
Thank you for watching Mr. Wild Wales. I really appreciate it.
@@AdventureswiththeMarine haha 33 years not bad lol no probs mate thanks for the informative vid
Usually the bottom side of the sleeping bag doesn't have as much fill as the topside, because it doesn't do much there anyway. You will be much better with a top quilt instead.
But remember. You can always migrate the down. ( moving the down with your form front. To the back). Thank you Vesanius for watching. I really appreciate it.
@@AdventureswiththeMarine Absolutely if the structure of the sleeping bag allows that. Mine for example has separated sections for the down so it all doesn't go to one end, so I couldn't do it. But if you can then it's great that you can use it as a quilt when needed.
Going to modify what i have for a ..under quilt.So many awesome ideas you share thank you .Love learning and cant wait to try these ideas in the real world . Still working on remembering knots and practicing them .Strength to you .
Please keep me posted.
Great Q&A! This one was a question I hear quite a bit. Thank you for your service!
Thank you Backpacking Adventures. I really appreciate that. I hope all is well.
Using the sleeping bag as quilt/underquilt is such a brilliant idea @08:50
Thank you Super Sauvage for watching. I really appreciate it.
The pod system looks best to me, if the sleeping bag is adequately modified, such as with a wide enough wedge, and adding a cinch at the foot end so you can cinch the foot hole tight. It would be nice if the sleeping bag were long enough that the foot cinch is even with the end of the hammock, but that means more customization I suppose. All you'd need then would be a blanket and an underquilt protector. The underquilt protector could be a custom ground cloth. I like the idea that wilderness innovation channel uses where he installs double sided snaps on everything. This way, you could just snap everything into place and it would stay put. If the hammock were a custom tarp, using cinches to gather the two ends and attach the hammock, then the whole shebang would be multipurpose; usable with or without the hammock setup.
For a cool Pod or Cocoon system. Superior Gear has a built-in Under quilt and a Top quilt called the cocoon that you zip on top. Very roomy and super warm. Thank you Slickwillie for sharing that. Good stuff!
@@AdventureswiththeMarine Yeah that's good. In fact I wonder if there is a way to have a sort of double rain shield, like a double walled tent, to deal with longer periods of rain. I suppose there would need to be like a couple of water proof sleeves that you just slide over the hammock, but a way to keep an air gap between them; not sure how to do that. Maybe that way you could ditch the tarp.
So... Hyke and Byke Antero bags are what you need. Also, the diagonal lay is nice and all, but as you noted it can create issues with a 'pod system' (like the bag I mention above). There's a hack for this. If you put an inflatable pillow under your thighs it'll change your position and put you in what feels like an amazingly comfortable recliner as you lay parallel in the hammock; this radically increases your thermal efficiency since you're having to heat a much smaller space. Happy hammocking!
Thank you Danger Pudge for sharing that. I really appreciate it. Good stuff!
Informative, I really would like to much more in the way of hammock camping! Thanks for all these great tips/suggestions. God bless you!
God has blessed me in so many ways that I hope to share those blessings with others. Thank you for watching Ms. Brigitte. I really appreciate it. God bless.
Greetings Marine. I hope that you had a great Veterans day! Good info and on the important topic of insulation in the hammock. Cold butt syndrome is real! In the beginning I tried sleeping bags, foam mats, inflatable pads, windshield refectors, even reflectix, but didn't find a good solution until I began to diy unberquilts. I used polyester batting for the insulation and different matetials fir the shells, before settling on down quilts. Ahh comfort at last. With all of that said, If you like hammocking and are going to go in cooler temps, you should go ahead and get some down quilts. You can diy if you are into it, but the cost is worth it when you consider the comfort and packability of down. "Buy once, cry once". Best wishes. Oh by the way....did you get Henry dried out?
I use to do a lot of diy. But for some reason. I haven't made anything in years. ( I take that back. I still tie flies for fly fishing ). Maybe I getting lazy in my years.
As for Henry. Once we hiked out in the dark. We had a four hour drive. When we arrived home. He was still a little wet. I am going to have come up with a better plan for him. I have been looking a pack boats so I can take him with me in the BWCA. But they are expensive. It is always good to hear from you Coughing Owl Outdoors.
Hi there
I camp mostly beach, ocean front or near to. My preferred hammock is the Hennessy brand. Very nice for warm and humid environment. Deep in woods I camp with an Eureka or NorthFace, 3 seasons both of them.
Hammock camping is my favorite option.
Regards
Thanks for sharing! That would be so cool to camp on a ocean front. Sounds like you are very Blessed. Thank you Harold so much for watching. I really appreciate it.
Good stuff sir!
I had to revisit your videos because, well?
I like how you explain things.
So thank you!
Glad you like them! Thank you TheFLOMAN76 so much for watching. I really appreciate it.
Snugpak cocoon with a down sleeping bag and an Antarctica re sleeping bag got me through some minus five night very comfy and warm.
Thank you Notthemessiah for sharing that. Good stuff.
I made a hammock slightly larger than the hammock I sleep in and then add a sleeping bag in that hammock and then place mine directly above it, it works ok for the most part as long as you arent compressing the bag beneath you
Thank you AA1PR for sharing that. Much appreciated!
happy birthday Marine. Thank you for your videos and thank you for your service.
Thank you Max. I really appreciate that. Semper fi
Thank you for your service.
Thank you Angry Bread Stick for watching. I really appreciate it.
This peaked my curiosity cuz I have one of them military hybrid hammocks with the mosquito nets as well as two waterproof sleeping bags that are also Snow proof with some waterproof pillows course the hammock was supposed to actually is weather resistant from the paracords being able to run a tarp over it for roof but it picked my curiosity of ways to make it more comfortable
Thank you KingDark Angels20 for sharing that. please keep me informed of what you are thing of. Good stuff.
Regular sleeping bag , light weather sleeping bag and...wait for it my trusty wool blanket . another awesome video thank you ..
Nothing like wool.
Sleeping on the diagonal gives you a comfy flat lie. I have found only a wide sleeping bag will allow you success in this technique. I find a nice wide thick seeping pad works better. To each their own.
The sleeping bag that I use, has a wedge zipped in. To make it wider. Always do what works for you. Thank you for watching G Henrickson. I really appreciate it.
Excellent - some new ideas -love the pod system will try next time I go hanging but think my bag might be too small (Im 6 ft 2 and 120 kg)
The wider the sleeping bag. The more comfortable you will be in the pod mode. Thank you toshadavinci5379 for watching. I really appreciate it.
I have used the sleeping bag pod system in temps around 45 degrees and it works very well to keep me warm!
Thank you for sharing that J Mash. I really appreciate that.
Hi Marine, tons of great information and options. Hope all is well, happy belated Veterans Day. Thanks for your service. Be safe, happy trails.
It is always good to hear from you Gobucky63. Are you thinking about going to Da Shack Hang?
@@AdventureswiththeMarine i would really like to but, I’m leaning more toward the Wisconsin frozen butt hang. Still not sure if I’m going to be able to do that. Have to be really careful unfortunately not to bring anything home. How about you?
So far, Runner and I are planning on going to Da Shack Hang.
@@AdventureswiththeMarine Sorry I’m not going to be able to make it, say hi to Runner. Hope to see you guys some other time soon.
@@AdventureswiththeMarine Marine, was just looking at the Da’ shack hang post and saw that Tumbleweed just cancelled it for December.
This technique works well in the pnw It is my go to setup. I even made my own video on it!
I will have to check it out. Thank you Nomaddict Art for watching. I really appreciate it.
I'm just about to get a hammock and tarp... The pod system for the sleeping bag looks perfect for me :)
Just remember. The sleeping bag used as a pod system can make a tight fit and hard to get asymmetrical inside the hammock ( unless you have a wide sleeping bag ). The pod system is also very warm. Get for cold temperatures. Thank you so much for watching MrAdam Davies. I really appreciate it.
Thank you Marine for the information.
Thank you JL 103 for watching. I really appreciate it.
Made that mistake on my first hammock camping trip. I used my mss black bag in my hammock @19°F. Didn’t have anything below me and it really sucked both nights lol.
When in that situation. It doesn't matter how many layers you put on top of you. If you are cold underneath. Your going to be cold. Thank you TFWS6 for sharing that and watching. I really appreciate it.
@@AdventureswiththeMarine I ended up tying a woobie to the bottom. I still wasn’t warm but the difference made by just a small amount of insulation was night & day. Great Channel!
About the only thing I could add to this is a tarp. Depending on how you hang it, it cuts down on the air circulation underneath.
Thank you for sharing that tag1462. I do try to sleep without a tarp at night to see the stars. But where I live. You can never trust the weather. Thank for watching. I always appreciate it.
I feel like using the sleeping bag as a top quilt you would still get really cold on the bottom. in winter camping.
When using a top quilt. You definitely need some type of insulation underneath you. Thank you Apryl for watching. I really appreciate it.
@@AdventureswiththeMarine I just realized all the auto correct lol I fixed it.
Good tips, i should look into what kind of sleeping bag i've got. Not my first choice for backpacking but it has served me well! I was toasty warm with just my sleeping bag in my hammock. I was super low to the ground, literally inches off it. With a low tarp, maybe 6 inches above my hammock and corners pinned to the ground. Low air movement, and i had to take layers off in 9°C under a full moon. This was only my 2nd time actually hiking n camping out with my hammock setup, but it was amazing!
That is so great to hear. If you don't mind me saying. I would raise the tarp higher if it is not going to rain hard with high wind. And if dose rain lightly. But not too hard. And for any other time. Put up one side of the tarp to what is called porch mode, with hiking poles or branches. For a great view and ventilation. Thank you Michael for watching. I always appreciate it.
I ordered a Superior Hammock system! I’m so excited to get it!
Good choice! What is really great with that hammock is the integrated under quilt. You don't have to adjust it every time you get in and out of your hammock. Let me know what you think when you try it out.
@@AdventureswiththeMarine I will! I’m going to set it up in my backyard and spend the night. I got the 15 degree hammock and quilt so I’ll put it to the test in December in snowy Utah!
western mountaineering bags rock....mine is.......old!
I believe mine is close to 20 years now. And there is no doubt that is will be using it for another 20 years. Thank you VooDoo so much for watching. I really appreciate it.
Damnit.. that pod system is genius.. why i didn't know about it earlier,.. damn
Thank you Ahtoh Konechnk for watching. I really ppreciate it.
I was caming in -18c* and I used an under quill sleeping bag and a a reindeer skin and I was so comfy. Deffo recommended
Thank you Trashyy for sharing that. Good stuff.
@@AdventureswiththeMarine your welcome
I don't use a sleeping bag but the pod system is genius.
The pod system is too warm for the summer time. But great for cold temperatures. Thank you for watching Jason. I always appreciate it.
Not to mention getting into a sleeping bag properly is a pain in the arse. How do i know this? I wonder. I have taken a sleeping bag and flipped it upside down to use as a top quilt before but also had an insulation layer underneath me. Early fall at 37 F, snug as a bug. Backpacking i use a down underquilt and a down throw from costco which is inexpensive. It has taken me 3 years to get it down to be comfortable and props goes out to the marine and Shug for all the tips i have learned.
Thank you for sharing that. I know a lot of people that swear by those Costco quilts. It is always good to hear from you John.
Hello we are sorry we have taken some time in getting around to connecting to you but we have been very busy as of late and then we got stuck in Malta so now we are playing that good old catch-up game lol . Thanks for sharing this video. Love and Light Sarah and Glenn.
It is always good to hear from you two. I see in your videos that you have been busy. Stay safe in your travels.
I will say about the sleeping bag question. I've always just used my sleeping bag when hammock camping! I use a "north face blue kazoo" it's a down bag rated for 15° F. Even my latest video is about me using it in 25°F in my hammock on a camping trip! That coupled with a sleeping pad is more than enough to have an enjoyable night in freezing conditions!! Oh I also use a bivi bag around the sleeping bag!! Just to raise the temperature rating a little bit and to keep dew off my down bag!! I will say that on that below freezing night, my butt did get cold but that was my fault for letting too much air out of the sleeping pad! And my toes got pretty cold from the wind ripping above the bag. I'm going on another trip in 2 weeks in the snow and for this one, I'm going to use an underquilt paired with my down bag, bivi bag, and sleeping pad. And also use a rainfly on this trip! The thought process is: the underquilt to help eliminate even more of that wind chill than just my pad, and the rainfly to help mitigate the wind chill from tearing at my feet as much! Sleeping bag in your hammock is totally doable!! I've had probably 15 over night trips now where I'm just using my sleeping bag and a sleeping pad, the temperature usually gets down to low 40s, high 30s. And I have great nights of sleep with that setup!! Highly highly recommend!!
Thank you Venture Groms for sharing that. I really appreciate it.
@@AdventureswiththeMarine oh absolutely!! Thank you for all your content!! I'm going to be using your rainfly and bug net hanging videos to help me learn those few knots necessary before my next camping trip. Thank you!!
Great tips and great video !! Well done 👍🏼
Glad you liked it! Thank you Indian Hemlock for watching. I really appreciate it.
I've always wanted to try out a hammock.
It will be the best night sleep out in the wilderness that you will ever have. When around tent campers. After showing them, and letting them try out my hammock. Almost every time that I see them again in the woods. They will be trying their new hammock. The problem now is finding enough trees for the prefect hang with a view.
Thank you Anonymous for watching. I always appreciate it.
it's the best sleep ever!
Good information and video. I use a zero degree mummy bag as a to quilt, with a good pad under me. Been down to 30. I did make a down under quilt but have not used it yet. Thanks and take care.
Thanks for sharing! Please let me know how your under quilt worked when you try it out. It is always good to hear from Quinn The Eskimo.
Great info! Thank you for your service!👍🏻🇺🇸
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Another good video with positive information. Anxiously awaiting the next one and thanks for you service.
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Thank you for the advice
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@@AdventureswiththeMarine it's very useful, your video prevents an error that i could have made in a future camping trip, highly appreciated.
have any companies ever made a sleeping system where the bottom is a foam or inflatable mat with asoft top like microfleece and you zip a down quilt onto the top? seems like it would work and would not have the waste of the flattened down on the bottom
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great video and like the information... I keep trying different ways to stay warm...
You and me both! Thank you for watching Virginia. I always appreciate it.
People have tried for along time to beat the high prices of these underquilts. I've even seen a video on making one out of an emergency blanket with packing tape, which seamed to work well by the way.
Some have doubled Costco quilts.
Personally I just found a really good down single bed quilt at goodwill and made my own. I doubt I'll ever go out below 30 degrees so I'm warm and satisfied. It was cheap, it looks good, and it's light. So I'll use my sleeping bag to the 50s, then I carry the quilt.
If your going below that, why chance It? Be safe and front the cash!
Of course that's just my opinion.
Thank you for sharing that Detra Dearma. Good info.
Great pointers, thanks
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Thanks for the video! Great tips as always. Cheers!
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thx for the info! I'm going to attempt the sleeping bag trick...hope it works cause I don't like being cold.
Just make sure you have good insulation underneath you Tracy. Unless you are trying the pod system. Using the sleeping bag like a top quilt works great. If you get to warm. Loosen it up. If you get cold. Tuck from the INSIDE, the sleeping bag underneath you. Starting under you legs and work your way up to make the space inside smaller to trap the warm air closer to you. You will be toasty warm. It is always good to hear from you Tracy. I hope you and your family are well.
@@AdventureswiththeMarine That's nice of you to say. I've been trying to use an air pad on my hammock, but can't get a good angle. Still working on that. Thx so much
The pod method isn't something I have tried yet because I didn't think it would allow a diagonal flat lay. Do I understand that this can be corrected by adding the appropriate amount of width with a custom section zipped in? If that's the case, I'd be ahead by sewing a small quilt with zippered sides that mate with my bag. I might just try that with some new polyester OD green yardage I just bought. I'm thinking that a good way to measure is to pin the bag in place underneath and measure where the top drapes. With a mummy, I can only guess that there will be a lot to add, but at worse, I could just go with an underquilt....Homemade if course.
The underquilt is much better option. The pod system is really for those very cold nights. Otherwise you will become to hot in it. And you will need a large, wide sleeping bag. Especially in the footbox. I love the Homemade. Thank you Preacher Man for watching. Much appreciated.
love this channel man
Thank you Cole. That means a lot to me.
Interesting use for a sleeping bag/hammock combo but I am surprised no one has asked about how it works with the mosquito net ?
You can only use a portable bug net. The integrated bug net will not work. But having a sleeping bag as a cocoon or pea pod. Would be too hot for the summer. When the bugs love to bite. Thank you for watching Joe. I really appreciate it.
@@AdventureswiththeMarine : thanks for that. I watch so many vids on the backpacking stealth camping and have bought quite a bit of gear, and feeling ready to go for it. This tarp and hammock thing is like nothing I've ever done before. I just want it to go well. I have been camping for years but this another level. Thanks for sharing such inspiring info.
The only reason I use the sleeping bag in a hammock is because this damn mosquitos bite my ass! Repellent only works for like 4 hours..
The mosquito's at times can be really bad where I live. Nothing worst than trying to sleep with them chewing on you all night. Thank you Germix Antrax for watching. I really appreciate it.
So… hear me out… could I use a sort of space blanket (those papery-thin almost tinfoil type blankets) as an underquilt? Theoretically I can hang it in a way that it traps a small pocket of air and stuff surely?
I like your thinking. If the is no gaps to let in cold air. It will work. But how well, I don't know. Please test it out and let me know how low of a temperature you got down too.
@@AdventureswiththeMarine will do! Planning on making and testing this Dec.
New to hammock camping but I had a thought that idk if it would work but could you use a sleeping bag as a make shift underquilt in a pinch... as in attaching under with some tie offs?
Some people that are creative. Have taken an old sleeping bag. And cut and sewn and added shock cord on the ends to make a under quilt. But it has to conform to the body underneath with no gaps. Thank you Ak for watching. Much appreciated!
Enjoyable and informative 👍
Thanks for the great information. I just ordered my son an ENO Skylight hammock and the warmest bottom and top quilts they offer. He'll will be winter camping in temps probably as low as the high teens occasionally. Considering that he'll have both the bottom and top quilt (top quilt is is closed at the bottom like a sleeping bag in up to about waist height) would ypu recommend that i also get him a, say 20°f down bag to go with that? Or do you think he would be better off going with a blanket since the top quilt is already a sort of sleepin bag itself?
Thanks again!
If he has a zero degree Top and Bottom Quilt. He will be just fine. Thank you Mac-be4qe for watching. I really appreciate it.
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Thank you for taking the time to respond! I really appreciate the advice.
After watching your videos i think i should of bought a bigger hammock.
I got the onetigris compound and its only 8.5ft, i am 5'10 lol
A 11ft. hammock would be the best for you. If you are using to sleep overnight ( camping ). But, the best hammock is the one you have. Thank you WannaJumpBikes for watching. I really appreciate it.
@AdventureswiththeMarine sent the onetigris back and got the onewind 11ft zippered. Can't wait for weekend to go try it out. Might try and do an overview video 🤣
Can you make a pod system work with integrated bugnet? Do you try to stretch the sleeping bag over a structural ridgeline? Also, what is the hammock you are using in that video?
I don't think anyone makes a sleeping bag that big without special order. And you shouldn't need a bug net in winter.
No, that would not work with a hammock with a integrated bug net. I take it that you only have a hammock with a integrated bug net that can not be removed?
Bag going over only the section of the hammock in which you actually lay. Structural ridge line is not involved with the old. You would need a separate bug net. That could go over the ridgeline, best if it's a bottom entry.
Old = pod. Auto correct mumble....
Sleeping Bag to Snakeskin!
Never seen one. That would be interesting. Thank you Ben Obo for watching. I really appreciate it.
A have a sleeping bag that goes as low as minus 40. No problem
That sleeping bag must be beast! Thank you tranquilitybase7860 for watching. I really appreciate it.
Hi , Im new to the hammock outdoors and thinking what if I use two sleeping bags that I have. I don't have these new type of sleeping bags but the old version with cotton whatever else they stuff it with when late fall comes. One for a liner and the other to sleep in. What's your thoughts on it.
If you are going to sleep on top of one of them. Your in luck that you don't have one those high quality down sleeping bag. When you lay on down. It smashes the loft. Which provides near 0 insulation. But your old ones. Though they are bulky to backpack. Are much better to lay on. What I would do is go to a department store. Get a cheap closed foam mat. Lay the mat down in the hammock first. Then the sleeping bag on top of the matt. Take the other sleeping bag. Zip the foot end up to18 inches. ( to create a footbox )Flip it upside down. Put your feet in the footbox. Take the upper part and tuck in around your side. And use as a top quilt. You will need to wear a socking hat. And maybe a light jacket or sweatshirt. But that would work just fine. Thank you Robert for watching. I really appreciate it.
Wow amazing Hammock camping
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Can you use a sleeping bag for a under quilt and then a blanket or light quilt to sleep with
If you are good at sewing. Or know someone. And also creative. You could take a sleeping bag and use it as an under quilt. You will need shock cord to hold it up against you leaving no gaps for the cold air to get in. If you try it. Please keep me informed. Thank you Trapper-kl5tl for watching. Much appreciated!
Love your videos.
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If you using this method for hammock insulation you cannot attach the muscuito net
That is true. This method is for those colder temperatures. Thank you Roel Off Grid Channel for watching. I really appreciate it.
Well I agree but the lowest -recorded- temperature I've been in a sleeping bag using a hammock is -4 degrees Celsius, so I'm very surprised you said lucky to get down to 15 celcius unless you mean negative 15?
Thank was with a sleeping bag. For a long time I have been using a Top and Under Quilt. In which early this year. I used them at temperatures as low as -38 Celsius. Running a sleeping bag through the hammock. Like a cocoon. Making sure that both ends are closed. You could get down in some extremely cold temps. Thank you for watching Cleveland explorer. I really appreciate it.
I live in northwestern British Columbia Canada, I have a hammock and tarp system in my survival pack, I have a underquilt on order, what is the best solution for temps down to -30 to -40°C?
im looking to be able to camp down into around 40 degrees farenheit in a hammock, and i currently only have a cheap synthetic 40 degree rated sleeping bag, what would be the most budget friendly way to get down to that temperature without adding a crazy ammount of weight
That is a great question. The best inexpensive way is putting a closed foam mat underneath you. But the problem is that they slide around too much. And they are also bulky. The best would be a 3/4 length under quilt. There is three different types of insulation inside. 1. Is synthetic. It would work just fine in those temperature's. And they are the most inexpensive. But they are the heaviest and bulkiest of the three. 2. Duck down. They are lighter and less bulk. But the price is now higher. 3. Goose down. This would be the best insulation fill. Lightest of the three and less bulk. But the most expensive.
I would suggest any one of these three. Use your cheap 40° synthetic sleeping bag as an Top Quilt ( Zip it down to where there is 18 inches on the bottom to create a footbox. And flip over and tuck in the sides to use as a top quilt. You may need to sleep with a light jacket or long underwear.) When it comes to hammock camping. A under quilt is a great investment. After buying a quality hammock. That would be the next piece of gear that I would purchase.
Can you stand on the down bag so I can see how lofty it is. It will be easier for me, thanks!
Sure thing! Thank you for watching Champ. I always appreciate it.
I am new to hammoking . Went on a fishing trip this last weekend. . And set up my hammock ok first night temp about 10C at night and it rained... noticed my sleeping bag kep slipping on my sleeping pad. The next night temp dropped to 37F 3C and i didnt have an underquilt...man i froze so bad the sleeping bag kept slipping down to my waist i was lucky to have a balyclava and gloves and hade few layers on ...but i was so cold at one point id get hyperthermia.....so how to prevent sleeping bag from slipping
If you are using a good sleeping pad that is insulated. Then you zip the sleeping bag down to where there is 18 inches ( 45 cm ) to the feet at the bottom. To create a footbox. Flip the sleeping bag over, so it is upside down. Put your feet in the footbox and tuck the material around you sides. All the way up to the neck. When sleeping on down. Your body weight will smash the loft down to where there is not much of an insulated value. I have slept on a closed foam mat at the same temperatures. And it work pretty well. You don't slip around to bad. The wider the mat. The better.
@@AdventureswiththeMarine is there a way of fastening the sleeping bag inside the hammock?
10:34 What do you tie the loops too?
If you want to use the sleeping bag as a cocoon or pod system. You will need to attach a piece of shock cord to the suspension then to the hammock. The hammock will need a loop sewn in on each end of the sleeping bag to attach the shock cord too.
@@AdventureswiththeMarine thank you. I’ve hammock camped in 32° weather with a 30° sleeping bag and an under quilt and I was still fairly cold. I realized what I was missing was a nice warm hat on my head. I lost a lot of heat out of my head.
I’m just trying to find the best set up in the most comfortable set up for me.
what bag are you using here. did it come the way that you have it setup in the video? thanks in advance.
That is the Western Mountaineer Sycamore. I have had that sleeping bag for many years. I bought a wedge for it, to make it wider. Now a days, they are very expensive. But so well made to last a life time, if taken care of. Thank you Derka for watching. I really appreciate it.
The worst night i had was at - 2 in a hammock and i froze my ass off
I have seen a guy who woke up in the middle of the night. Moving his hammock away from the lake to the back woods. Trying to get out of the wind. Hoping to find warmth. It looks like you had double trouble. Thank you Primal_SLvEye for watching. I really appreciate it.
The need for a under quit kills the hammock for the role I what to us it for can we not use a space blanket on the floor or suspended, or can you hang two hammocks and fill it with dry leaves or clothes etc
Thanks for sharing Alan. Have you used the dry leaves and if you have. Would you mind sharing your experience when using them?
@@AdventureswiththeMarine I was asking IF you could I have not bought a camping hammock yet
How can I stop my sleeping top quilt from sliding off my hammock while sleeping
That is where a bug net or winter cover shine. They will always keep the inside. Instead of on the ground. And also. A wider hammock helps a little. But when sleeping. If isn't to warm. Make sur you top quilt is tucked in on both sides. Having a narrow hammock can make this a little more challenging. Thank you shawn pire for watching. I really appreciate it.