Are Paper In Oil Caps Better Than Orange Drop?
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I'm about to turn 66 in a few days. I spent my life having a certain mind-set, if I built a guitar or bought one I'd do the same things to it just because I thought that's the way things are done. I'd not even put a tone control on ones I built and cut them out of the ones I'd buy, I never took the time to learn how to use tone controls. About 6-7 years ago I was at Guitar Center trying Les Paul's. None sounded "good" to me, mostly too bright. I had just played one, didn't "like" it, hung it back on the wall. I stepped away, a younger guy picked that same guitar up, played a few notes, then that creamy tone I was looking for came out of that guitar, it didn't sound that way when I played it. I asked the guy what he was doing to get "that" sound. He rolled the tone control back a bit. That's all he did. I had to rethink most everything I'd done due to misinformation or just stubbornness. My tone quest has been fun and informative. That's how I discovered Dylan Talks Tone.
Just re-read this, I'd left some holes in my comments explaining "what I did to everything". I'd read in guitar player in the 80's about the timeless discussion how smaller value pots kill treble, the higher the pot value, more highs get thru. The writer suggested everyone put 1 meg pots in their guitars to get full frequency spectrum. In another monthly how to by the same writer, he suggested adjusting the pickups so high they almost touch the strings to get full output. Not sure if the "cut the tone control out of the circuit to get more mojo" was by the same idiot, but I did all three suggestions to every guitar I put my hands on. I didn't understand why my strat sounded so badly, I hated it, so I changed pickups but did the same thing, it sounded badly too, so I traded it away. Imagine my shock when I learned the pickups were too high. I'd taken part of 3 or more magazine articles and abstractly applied what I THOUGHT I'd read with mostly bad results. Before internet (here goes a "had to walk to school uphill, both ways" story) I obtained my information 3 ways, magazine, library, and word of mouth. Thinking back, most of the people that gave me guitar advice were either high, or just stupid, but I digress. I feel foolish for blaming what were otherwise excellent instruments for me making the tone and sound stink. My go-to phrase for one of these guitars was "it sounds like a TURD". Oh, well.
@@Lamster66 thanks for the insight.
To clarify my standpoint, I've played just about every genre from Gospel to bluegrass to blues since 1972, I've not found that magic guitar or pickup that does everything I've needed. Besides my hands and string choices, the pickup and resulting tone is the next item in the equation. I use a variety of amps as the genre and size of the venue dictates, so usually the guitar choice is dictated by the same requirements. What I mentioned regarding that Les Paul being too bright, it wasn't giving me the sound I was after for that purchase. I also explained that I'd done the same things to every guitar I owned instead of learning how to use that tone control. It amazed me that it actually made that much difference in shaping the tone. I've been on the "tone quest" since then so I'm about 18 years past THAT revelation. I'm not so closed minded these days, I read and experiment as much as possible, an auto accident ended my live gigging. Your explanation was thorough and I certainly appreciate the input. At this point of my by guess or by gosh engineering I'm experimenting with bass cut and passive mid-range cuts, I'm intrigued with the cocked wah sounds possible and how 3 tone cut controls interact. I'm enjoying my journey and really enjoy Dylan's posts. Thanks again.
I share this pro tip with very few people. Mainly because they really do not know what they do not know and just play what is stock. So here it goes: use 500k pots on all your guitars. Wire the volume and tone knob like a 50’s Les Paul junior. (Vintage wiring vs Modern) use the value .010- .015 for the tone cap. If you want to roll back the volume or tone when using single coils to get more of those stratty tones then you will be inclined to use your ears more and also more feel of the strings and magnets resisting your pick attack. Tone really is in your hands, some guitars do this better out of the box, most have to be modified to this recipe to really have it all, especially in HSS. Now, you have the 500k which the humbucker loves, you are twice the value for single coils, you can roll off the volume and tone and solve that, plus.... using the value of tone cap I prescribed, you will actually use your tone knob more than ever before as the value (.010-.015mfd) shifts the mid and treble points like a partially cocked Wah wah pedal, instead of that .05 horrible muted muffled muddy sound Fender chose to use when guitar players would mimic bass guitar on a 6 string while recording in the 50’s, and no modern players really use the tone knob because of that fact. Playing your amp is now your new concern. You can dial up higher than you would normally use for volume and tones, and use the volume and tone knob on the guitar for boosting volume and tone without a pedal... ala Hendrix ... you will love this setup more than anything and will play more and use the volume and tone knobs and never want anything else forever thereafter...... do a video with this idea.... boost the amps volume and tone controls and dial it back from the guitar and when you want a volume or frequency change, use those knobs on the guitar instead of walking to the amp, or stepping on pedals.....you will be free to play and have it all at your fingertips.....you will thank me later tonechasers!!!
@@bradleyshuppert3393 Chris Buck did a video called "The CHEAPEST Les Paul Tone HACK? | Friday Fretworks" His LP has about 330K pots from Gibson. He had the guitar upgraded to 500K post with new caps. There was a bit of difference but not as much as you would think.
A lot of people seem to think they're missing some magic component in their signal chain that's holding them back. There isn't. You just aren't practicing enough. Stop obsessing over caps and start obsessing over being the best player you can be. I need this advice too.
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You won't sound good if you don't play well this is true, but if you've ever modded a guitar and achieved hitting that sweet spot of tone you'd understand that tone isn't entirely in your fingers. There's a point to chasing it, but there's also tons of variables. The biggest being how you sound in your room isn't how you sound being recorded with a mic, or to someone 100 yards away listening to you in a mix. That said I feel how I sound to myself is important to feeling inspired to play. To each their own though. Everyone should have a different perspective and experience. Also I agree with this guy's perspective in the video for the most part. I've heard it argued though that there's a tolerance for variance in value in caps and cheaper ones apparently tend to have wider value variance meaning they can vary a little more higher and lower from the actual value in performance than some of their more expensive competition. I don't know enough to say if that's true though, and that didn't seem to be addressed in this video. I'm curious to know if there's much truth to that claim.
True, but nerding out on capacitors can be superficial therapeutic fun. Even if doesn’t matter which cap you use. It’s like audio jewelry.
That's true to an extent, but people often don't know how to dial in an amp either. Usually dial in too much gain and bass, then can't figure out why their tone sucks
The thing missing is the 2000-3000$ amps the big difference
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His content hooks up with my failed engineers (stupid calculus) understanding of physics. But hey all that math eventually helped understand data for stock speculation 🤣
I completely concur! I hate myths, conspiracy theories, fake news, false informatoon, superstitions, the supernatural, paranormal, metaphysical, mythological, lies, and bs. And there is nothing better than busting myths and lies by debunking them with truth and real knowledge!!
@@drivinsouth651 Than I can gladly tell you that mechanical exitement has a completely objectively measurable effect on the capacitance, and that effect is different for different types of capacitors. If you HEAR that is another thing. But there IS a measurable difference. I find it funny how he lists "heat, voltage, current - all things that we do not have in guitars -" but the obvious thing - physical vibration - is left out of all things. Again: if you actually hear that is another story.
Paper and oil makes me think of fish and chips. That's all I know.
Ewww.
try the salt & vinegar, they react really nicely with the heat range of fish & chips ,,
Hahahaha...... now I'll never see paper and oil caps the same way.
@@adrianpierce3047 Mmm vinegarrrrr aaarrgghhh!
@Steve R A cap, is always, just a cap!
Arguing the caps in your guitar make it sound better is like arguing the caps in your calculator make it do math better. At a given capacitance, they sound the same.
My tone gets better the more I practice.
I've no idea or opinion on the subject, so I'm here to learn.
Back to the video...
GREAT explanation. I also play Hammond B3 organ. There are 88 pickups [tonewheels] , each with their own cap. When we used to do a 'cap job', some people didn't like the resulting sound. They had become accustomed to the 'drifted' sound; which, on a B3, is rather muddy. After their ears became tuned in, they found the B3 much more tone responsive; to drawbar changes.
Great video! I love your vids! I will say though just an interesting fact I learned during my 9 years as an electrician is that the one thing electricity will never run through is completely pure 100% distilled water (basically the chemical of pure H20)! When electricity runs through normal water it runs through the irons and zincs and minerals in the water! Just thought that was an interesting fact I learned in tradeschool!
Thank you again Dylan ! You keep cranking out these amazing informative videos. Thank you man !
I love the Jimi illustration of heat effect on the capacitor - brilliant! 🤣
This was the first really insightful video I have been able to find on capacitors and their role in basses and 6 string treble basses. I have searched for weeks, thank you for the content, wish I had found this sooner.
Thanks for all of the thought and effort you put into these vids. I find them very worthwhile.
My 63 Strat had a nice ceramic disc cap that sounded great when you rolled off the highs !
Dylan, great discussion and topic! Just bought a Kay K161V reissue and started making a list of everything that I “needed” to change... (having the pickups rebuilt using US materials, replacing the pots/caps..etc).
After watching this video the only things I’m changing now are the 3-way switch (to a CRL) as the stock switch is failing already, Tuner machines, output jack (to Switchcraft), and bridge saddle to Tru Arc.
Thank you for approaching everything you talk about in a subjective manner. Keep up the great work!
I don't know, but I've heard the reason that the vintage bumblebee caps might sound "better" is that they are not very good performing caps compared to modern caps; they are "leaky". And it's this phenomenon that can make them sound different.
I use Orange drops for two simple reasons... they have a tight tolerance, and the last forever.
I have one Orange drop in one of my guitars. Love it! Awesome capacitors
I love you explanation about the capacitor, it was very clear , thank you so much once again
This is a well explained and understandable video on this subject.
Very valuable informations!
Thanks Dylan! 😃👍🏼
I‘ve put 0.015mF orange drops in 2 humb. guitars with diff. scale length and on a Telly style with noiseless SC‘s. I like to have usable tones from 10-0.
I intend to do the same in other two strat/superstrat type, wich are already warm sounding.
My LP style „black beauty" got 0.022mF, for the growl.
I „know“ the difference between the types of caps is negligible to non existent, but I generally don't "trust" things if they are too small… so I chose orange drops…and they look nice too.
But for treble bleeds I use the small ceramic caps and resistors.
Dylan, just got a really good deal on a 2019 HC Gibby LP Classic. I love the tone...don’t think I’ll do anything to it...is there anything compelling, aside from pickups, that you’d suggest I consider doing? PCBs don’t scare me at all.
Brilliant! Thank you for your clarity and the organization of your presentation.
Thanks Dylan! I have been wondering about the difference between the Bumblebee (paper in oil) caps and Orange Drop caps (as these seem to be the 2 hallowed caps for vintage LP/SG/335 tone aficionados). I appreciate you breaking this down.
LOVE your straight talk. THANKS!!
Please comment on whether different type tone Caps sound different. I'm not talking the value of the cap- (drifted value or not) - I mean the materials in the cap. They merely bleed highs to ground - right? How is it possible that they make your guitar sound different?
I realize you inadvertently addressed this here but if you don't mind - it would be insightful
Thanks - here to learn
Nicely said mate 👍🏼
Great video.
"But I can hear the difference" is the exact same bs as "but this one goes to eleven". If a customer wants to spend an extra 25 bucks on a fancy cap, so be it. But I'm doing allright with my 5 cents caps. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it.
I really appreciate your input on this subject as I long have suspected this was the case. It is rather amazing how much hype and misinformation can proliferate into an urban legend when it comes to capacitors and electric guitars.
I'm allways impressed about your knowledge, thatswhy i have to stick to your channel. Very good job! Thanx!!
Dylan made an excellent point about old caps starting to go bad and beginning to act like resistors. Check the ESR of those old caps. So yeah, when a crappy paper cap stops being a cap, no doubt it sounds different than modern caps.
We can't make them old, but I wonder if there was a way to make them sound old by freezing them, baking them in an oven, or some other method?
@@drivinsouth651 For those who can't read a blue print, you'll have to put your capacitors in the oven. Those who can read a blue print know will know that the design of the circuit determines the "tone." The reason that brown fenders sound different than black face which sound different than silver face fenders is the circuits are different.
@@murfbass But which one should I put in my Strat? I put the parts from an Ibanez RG loaded pickguard in my Ibanez GIO and it sounds better than any of my other guitars. The Ibanez loaded pickguard cost $97.00 on eBay. The $500.00 worth of pickups, Emerson blender, 10 way switch, and Qijack I put in my Strat should theoretically sound better. I was thinking of putting Ibanez parts in my Strat. What should I do, lol? Thanks!
Just need to put your guitar in the pizza oven for about three hours. Now your capacitors would be awesome and you guitar will look vintage.
Thanks! I've always thought this but never knew for certain. Now I do! Thanks Dude! 🤘
Cool vid.
Question: do different capacitor types tend to have their values drift differently over time? For example, would a PIO drift sooner than a ceramic cap? And I'm assuming they would tend to drift to lower values, but could they drift to higher ones?
So does it make any difference at all what ones you put in the guitar? Is there any certain best or good ones to use? Do any of them change the tones at all? I am not here to fuss or argue about anything, I just want to learn a lot about this tech stuff.
Thank you so much for this. It’s exactly what suspected about these things and makes all the sense in the world. You rock!
Very interesting, Dylan. Thank you for the clarification.
Not only do none of my guitars have capacitors, I had no idea what they were before this, so thanks for the info
So no tone control?
@@tomohara414 must be acoustic 😂
@@holmesteadready There are many electric guitars without a tone pot(s).
Yeah that's a tough talk... not many people are ready to hear it... and It's true, if you want to sound like a vintage guitar, check its cap value, and duplicate it... dont go read the original value of it and try to put a paper in oil cap in your guitar with the original value, it won't sound the same...
Duplicating original values is a mistake many people make when trying to recreate a 60 year old amp with fresh components. The "mojo" in those old amps is there because the values of those 60 year old parts have drifted over the decades. I heard clones that sound incredible but, good or bad, they don't sound exactly like an original.
I don't understand what you are talking about. isn't the reason you love that old vintage amp or vintage guitar due to the recordings you've heard and fallen in love with that use that gear? like the classic rock sound of those vintage Les Paul and Marshall amps got on the classic Led Zeppelin Albums? or that unmistakable tone Jimi Hendrix got on his recordings?
All of that gear was brand new when those recordings were being made and the caps when all in spec.
if you really want to sound like that vintage gear then re-cap your amps, put fresh tubes in and set the bias correctly and re-cap your guitar with the correct values. there! true vintage sound! anything else is just a lie that has made people spend way too much money on old gear that in reality was out of spec and not working properly!!!!
sagging caps will over time damage your gear, it's not sound it is creating it is bad electronics, see your getting DC leakage and that is just bad!
@@mergatroid1212 THANK YOU GOOD SIR! SENSE AT LAST!
If you measure two capacitors of different kind with the same value,
you get different readings depending on the frequency your capacitance meter are using (often 100Hz to 1Khz).
But since guitars just handle audible frequencies below 20khz I don't think it matters at all.
There is a difference on choosing types when you are talking about Mhz/Ghz range.
I think you should select one that is easy to solder with a long lifespan. Or just use the one with the coolest colour.
Personally, I first choose the value I like, then I install the ones that have the look I like the most in that guitar 😀
Paper in Oil...tropical fish, orange drop...they all have a place in my guitars. There is no real difference in sound, but I hate to see those small ceramic disk caps and always swap them out. Still makes me feel I did something to make my guitar more personal
@@frankscassi4960 The ceramic don't blead.
@@frankscassi4960 For me, nerding out on capacitors is fun. I enjoy being a capacitor nerd even if it makes not much of difference
Hey Dylan , I have a question concerning caps. Does it matter which way you install them in a guitar?? I’m up-grading my semi-hollow guitar with new pots and orange caps, and not sure which way to install. Any help would be appreciated.
I learn something new every time I watch your videos. Im seriously considering a new path in EE. Thank you and keep pressing on.
Great video and very informative. I'm currently working on a bass and ordered some CTS pots for it (in preparation for swapping out the pickups and controls) and they came with an "orange drop" capacitor. I've been watching videos on how to do the work myself (the soldering and whatnot)and they're using paper and oil so I've been wondering if I should get a paper and oil capacitor "because it will sound better." Glad I found your video to clear up this whole capacitor argument. Thanks a lot!!!
Very awesome video. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the manner in which capacitors function in a guitar is also why it doesn't matter which way the outside foil is connected, although in electronics theory (if you're absolutely OCD), it would be facing toward the tone pot, yes?
This is a really great show. You answer the questions we all want to know, but in straight forward way.
45 years ago, when I was a young boy, I had; a cheap Teisco, a three month 7th grade electronics course, and a Radio Shack a block from home.
I spent many months, experimenting with as many different value capacitors, and fixed resistors, as I could find. I made my own Veritone, replete with resistors, before I knew it was actually a thing. I only did it, so I could compare cap values easier.
Then, I tried phase shifting, coil tapping, (later splitting, when I added some cheap Framus humbuckers). I used push/pull pots, DPST, DPDT switches. Anything I could find, at Radio Shack.
When I brought what I had done to my electronics teacher. He laughed at me, and told me I was wasting my time.
My poor Teisco looked like Frankenstein’s monster, all the extra pickups, switches & knobs. It looked just awful, but it could make so many different sounds, through my 15watt converted stereo/turntable, into amplifier. It was crazy.
Edit: typo
That you for clearing up the myth using logic. I’m getting ready to rewire an Asian LP copy and you just saved me $40 bucks or so.
Thanks for demystifying caps. Learned plenty!
Thank you for this complete explanation of this matter. You have an amazing way of communicating your point, you earned a subscriber.
Great vid, thanks for breaking it down. One thing, I can't seem to find, is they vaule (?) of the capacitor. If I was to go to the electronics store and by a cap (any type) what is the value? I am runnig a stock P-90 through 500K vol and tone pots to a input jack. Thanks in advance.
Good capacitor explanation! I upgrade vintage audio components. Wanted your take on "Audio Grade" capacitors vs the "standard" grade with same value/type. Would you recommend if price was not that much different.
I've been been building/ repairing my own amps for 8 years. And I agree with you about capacitors. Thank you for the video.
Great very informative and interesting video, thanks. Even though I now know that cap type doesn’t effect tone, ima still buyin those cool lookin ones with the stripes.
I have no idea about Caps. But from experimenting i have boticed a hear a difference between different typrs. quite amazing really. Thanks Dylan awesome video :)
Saw some paper & oil caps for $80 each today at a thrift store lol. I hate orange drops cause of how they look but when they're in the guitar I don't have to look at them. I use the same cheap ceramic caps as I do in the pedals I build on guitars I wire. works out great & at 10 cents a pop from tayda.... better to put my money into other things such as vintage wine.
I’m subscribing. After 4 of your videos, I genuinely enjoy the needing out over science of music. You’re a fascinating guy, can’t wait to see more from you
Good talk! Thanks! I put very high output humbuckers in my Epi SG. Did not change pots or caps. Bought some Russian green pio caps. Installed. Sound was noticeably “compressed”, “warmer”, whatever ...was noticeably different. The HBs were rated at 16-18kohm, I believe (GFS “Bigmouth”) Maybe some other factor than the cap material???
Thanks for info Sir! So .... my pbass I’m getting into this capacitor world..please advice if possible, thanks
Good talk I appreciated you breaking it down.
Right now I am a oil and paper cap guy. Just found the orange Sprague caps
To be a little brittle sounding with 500 k pots. But a great sound in a 250 k pot
Go figure!
Useful info for a guitar nut like myself and the love of science behind everything including capacitors!🤘😁
Great bit of info. I've always just used whatever as far as caps went. I'd try to buy something I knew was a quality product, say Sprague for the orange drops since they're known to have proven quality. Nice to know that when I've bought ceramic caps that it wasn't a difference and saves some money.
Thanks ! you're so right! You could explain how to wire caps the best way, this can explain a change in perception. For the rest, it's also all about passion and personal pride to get THE real thing. This can then be a good way to push someone to it's best...it means inspiration. Reason vs passion...
This is the best explanation I've ever heard! Thank you very much!
Excellent explanation of basic electronics in guitars.
Dylan great video. But I wonder how many ppl actually roll their tone knobs and use the caps on their guitars.
Good information! Thanks for sharing...
Good content to the point you're awesome Creator man
Thanks Dylan for making my life easier with your knowledge, i was so obsessed about replacing my guitars capacitors to orange drop to bumble bee capacitor! Thank you!
I have put PIO capacitors in two of my guitars and I can tell you they changed the tone drastically. Anything that affercts the current form the pickup to the amp WILL have an effect.
Same!
I have PIO in one of my guitars too. I don’t know if it improves but it looks great
I like to think of capacitors as balloons in a circuit, they add voltage back in when the voltage drops like a balloon would in an air system. Pots are like electrical valves and resistors are like a restriction in a piece of pipe slowing down the amount of air passing through. It helps me visualize what is happening. Great video. Thank you.
Pots are resistors just variable
I love this channel, you're talking about stuff that I've been saying for years to my naive friends who are constantly dropping big money to chase their perfect tone based entirely on BS hype from people who don't know what they're talking about!
This perfectly answers my question! Thanks!
Thank you for this clarification! Kudos!
Love this Chanel. I never took my SG looking guitar apart. It has 6 strings and 4 knobs. I don’t know what it has inside. I like the sound and enjoy playing it. Thanks for the videos showing me what’s might be inside.
Are some caps recommended for humbuckers and some caps for single coils?
I hate that Ive just found your videos. I love how comprehensive and helpful these videos are especially the explanations being in guitar application as well. I’ve spoken to engineers(asking specifically about this) that haven’t been able to put it as clearly or as quickly as you have. Thank you
Thank you for clearly and plainly explaining something that gets knocked out of reality. Good job.
...so I have a number of old Paper and Oil capacitors from my Dad's shed, he's a electrical engineer and a bit of a border. I like the imperfect vintage sound having played a few old guitars. The am tempted to try some out in my Early 1990's Les Paul... any tips?
Measure their capacitance... If you like it, order a capacitor of that value, test to see if it sounds the same, and report back.
Great explaination of something hardly anyone knows anything about, including me. Thanks.
Think I subscribed after I watched the third or fourth video of yours I found. You provide a wealth of information in layman's terms. Thank you for that, even though I'm sure you, Dylan won't read this. Just begining to mod some of my guitars and your explanations will save me a lot of trial and error.
Excellent, as usual. People miss the fact that the capacitor types they used in vintage guitars were used because they were what was commonly available, not because they had some known musical advantage. Amp capacitors were way overkill for guitars. There are alternatives today. Now, pardon me, I have to go get some of those $75 vintage capacitors to make my tone better!
Additionally, quality of products back then was much better than the workmanship of modern products, this can especially be seen in modern vehicles, where technology is mated with cheap poor construction quality. I believe that is the reason vintage guitars can sound so good. Japanese guitars gained respect because of the pride they took in trying to make the best guitar they could make.
I'm a Fender man. I have one LP Special. (Hums) The LP seems dark to me unless it's on the bridge pickup with the tone at 7-10. (It has a .022uF cap on the 500k tone pot)
Would a treble bleed circuit on the volume or a lower cap value on the tone, like a .015 or .001uF best brighten things up?
Great video very informative. Thanks
Well put !
thx very helpful,I have a 92 clapton strat with the midboost,I changed my pickups to the srv and a hot rail.with the boost off the srv pickups sound a little muddy I was thinking of taking out the circuit and starting from scratch?is this the pickups or the circuit making it muddy.much appreciated
Sounds like the circuit! You now have a hum bucker wired to a single coil pick up volume pot! IF you go to HB from SC, you NEED to replace the volume pot from 250K, to @ least 500K, or it WILL sound muddy, and it WON'T be as loud as you expect, or drive your amp as hard! I had this problem years ago on an old guitar. Had a good Duncan put in it, but the twats that did it, NEVER upgraded the volume pot to a 500K, and I always wondered WHY the guitar sounded muddy!
Maybe do a tone comparison..? This all makes sense to me.. But is there a slight tonal difference? Or what tolerances might the old ones that are out of spec be? Ones that might sound good to some folks... I am not here to cause drama but I wonder how close in comparison the tone is.. Looking on a scope or something... Microscope...lol.. Thanks for another great video!
Hi Dylan. Found your video very informative but had a thought about it ? Say someone has a guitar that has oil caps in it that aged over the years and the love the tone. What if you took those caps and read their current value and found modern made caps that were close and near the value of the old oil caps and used them in replaced of those. Would you in effect be recreating what some call that vintage feel or am I missing something here ? Can't believe some manufacturer is making oil caps, selling them for hundreds of dollars and they may not even be authentic oil caps but modern made ones made to look old ones.
Awesome stuff,,,thanks
i just wonder if the cap really matters if i always have my tone knob set all the way up to 10 all the time
Awesome info.. thanks
That was my favorite intro to a gear video...by a long shot. (I have no strong feelings about capacitors but will keep watching)
Dylan, what capacitor do you you?
what do you recommend for a set up of SSH with 500K pots? im not sure if you said you like .047. I might look into your cap kit with different caps.
Good stuff Dylan, thanks. What's important is the way your guitar output circuit (pickups, caps, resistors) interacts with the input circuit (impedance) of your amplifier. Try running your Strat through the A side of a Radial Twin-City ABY Amp Switcher Pedal and vary the drag setting. Most guitars will have a sweet spot you can hear.
in wich polarity do you have to solder the capasitor on the guitar ?
Great explanation!
I think doing little tweaks to our instruments is just part of the natural philosophy that infuses us all.
If we gradually make it a little better here and there the finished product will be a lot better when we're done.
The negligible difference in tone due to our choice of capacitor is just one of those minor tweaks.
In many cases yes, but in this case, no. No it’s not. Go back and listen more carefully to Dylan’s talking points, or read my comment above about decades of blind testing with different cap types and values.
It's funny how when we talk, we almost always try putting it, "into words." haha. As a 60-year-old beginning guitar player, I'm learning a lot here. Thanks my brother.
I need advise: Switch craft or Pure Tone Jack's. Which is best?
Hi, would there be any noticeable difference between a 50V 0.22uf & a 100V 0.20uf cap ? Thanks so much! ps both ceramic
I'm wondering the same thing. Or a 400v, or 600v.
I don’t use my tone knob and I wanted to switch it out with a tesi kill switch that’s goes into the tone pot hole and it had no instructions. When I connected it the bridge pickup sounded like it lost tone and the kill switch only worked on the bridge pickup. Can anyone help me out with this because I want to learn how to do this on my own.
Interesting video, my man. Mainly the part of tone due to capacitor aging. Kudos !
Great video Dylan, as always! I have a question, or a dilemma thing: if you'd have the choice of capacitor in a guitar, let's say you have your dream guitar in front of you and one's got a paper-oil and the other one is whatever (an Orange Drop let's say). Which would you pick?
SqualeProductions it won’t matter to me. If it’s a vintage guitar, whatever is original for value. If it’s a new guitar I won’t even give it a second thought
Just installed an Emerson SG harness in a customer's SG to find one pot dead, all four pots rattly when strumming a chord. ( You can hear it unplugged). Don't see the quality I would expect from a $120 harness. Where they soldered the ground wires to the sides of the pots interferes by hitting the side wall of the control cavity. I didn't get to the point of hearing how "marvelous" their oil and paper capacitors are supposed to sound since I stopped the installation once I ran into the dead potentiometer. I agree with you. There is a lot of hype out there over the pettiest of things in tonality. I'm putting the old harness back in and recommending my customer return this mess to Emerson.
Yes. Words. That's a good start. HA!. Thanks Dylan. I love these kind of vids.