Hey 108 Mics, As a fellow music lover, I am very thankful of your videos. Your addition to humanity's collective knowledge is a real blessing to your species, even if you look like a Bladee fan. I do recognize that you have focused on A&TC due to their popularity, but I honestly feel like some of the things omitted are too big to ignore. Below, I have written a bit about different ways vocals have been altered throughout history - only focusing on A&TC would ignore what lead to the acceptance of the bizarre vocals, and ignoring what followed just because of the year ignores other developments that may have lead to Hyperpop. (I will only focus on the vocal elements as this video pretty compares the vocal element of A&TC and Hyperpop) One method of vocal alteration that predates any form of modern technology is overtone / throat singing. Such techniques could be found world wide - while the style maybe different, the overall effect is similar. In a sense, this is one an organic way to shift formants, a key characteristic in Hyperpop vocals. While forms like koohmi are generally believed to have originated from spiritual practices, it has transformed into a musical performance. This indicates that human throughout history have had the ear and context to accept transformed vocals in their music, and that the appeal is far more universal than A&TC, which is pretty much an American culture icon. Another example of vocal alteration is Castrato. This is when you cut the balls off of boys so they don't have natural testosterones levels. You get a grown man with the voice of a boy. While you could say that this isn't technically an vocal alteration because you alter the whole body, it still is an example of the appeal of unnatural vocals in the western musical context. This shows people always have been listening to vocal performances that break our traditional notion of voices for a long time, regardless of class (and therefore, different cultural contexts). At least in music, the idea to change voices had no boundaries in terms of class, area, and time - they have been practiced everywhere, anytime. This outlines a possible explanation to why the concept of mechanically pitched up vocals were accepted with relative ease, unlike some other forms of vocal techniques (eg death metal growls). Vocals that sound "different" is not as new or shocking at the point of A&TC - it has been done and performed for a long time around the world. Another thing I want to point out is that Wizard of Oz, a movie that was released in the 1930s and was also widely popular, also had mechanically altered vocals for effect. This predates A&TC and is used in the music as well. I am not suggesting that A&TC is a rip off of Wizard of Oz, but I am noting that altered vocals has been entering the American pop culture before A&TC. Even if the people have not heard of Castrato or koohmi, they were most likely aware of altering vocals from mediums before A&TC. Musical techniques that are too new and foreign generally don't get accepted easily by the masses, so it takes some getting used to. WoO may have been the aperitif to the long history of altered vocals entering the popular music scene (which would eventually lead to Hyperpop). Now, to be totally honest, I am very skeptical on how A&TC "invented" Hyperpop simply due to the relevancy to modern music. Yeah, there are movies, but much more modern musical developments surely are more directly influential to the creation of Hyperpop. Avante-Garde music's experimentation on recorded audio and vocals, vocal distortion from punk/grunge recordings, the blurring of singing and non-sang vocals through sprechgesang and rap, the use of vocal effects such as talkbox / vocoders / autotune / Vine-era earrape memes etc. Personally, A&TC is not a contender to be considered as the inventor of Hyperpop simply because it is is not an originator, and it's place in history is a footnote rather than a chapter. At the end of the day, the desire and wide acceptance of altered vocals is the origin and inventor of Hyperpop, and we cannot point to A&TC alone. Now, here's a little thought I had on my own cultural background in relation to this topic. As a Japanese person (I imagine you could tell from my lackluster English), I can vouch that A&TC is simply not known in Japan. In addition, Wizard of Oz, Castrato, koohmi are all unknown as well, and Japan doesn't really have a history of throat singing. So, from what this video and my comment suggests, Japan has no real base for Hyperpop to proliferate other than via US popular culture, which does pretty poorly in Japan (unless you're a popular white singer). Hyperpop is also not known here, but I highly anticipate a sudden boom in Hyperpop in Japan, probably a form of "J-Hyperpop" to develop in the next decade or so. Let me explain. 1.We have a song called はじめてのチュウ in the 90s that was widely popular that basically is Japan's A&TC. While the younger generations do not know of this, revisiting old pop culture is a thing right now (the amount of 80s citypop used for boomers to boost their ego is insane). This is probably because the Japanese youth are too broke to consume anything, so record labels and the entertainment industry is targeting the older generation's wallets - hence creating a "revival" trend within Japan. I have no doubt that at one point はじめてのチュウ will be popular again. 2.The "Anime voice". Anyone whos watched a bit of anime knows that voices are sometimes heavily altered to portray certain characters, and a lot of times vocal qualities are heavily exaggerated for effect. はじめてのチュウ was also written for anime. Now, "Anime voice" has become a bit of a slang to describe any voice that sounds anime-ish and doesn't sound natural. It used to be that these were only heard in Anime, but with voice actors diversifying their jobs and new forms of vocal consumption (eg VTubers) arising, the arena for altered / different vocals keeps on growing. There's even a live streamer that uses autotune that is fairly poplar. It is a matter of time before more extreme uses of vocal alteration techniques become accepted. Furthermore, robots and villains in anime usually have some sort of effect on them. Music, anime, and games are closely knitted together in today's market (eg Hypnosis-mic, all the idol games etc) - it's a matter of time before an anime character with highly altered voice drops a song for fans to listen to. 3. Music in Japan As of now, Japan's pop charts is mostly pop-rock influenced stuff - Japan loves it's mid-ranged instrumentation. However, there have been key moments when more experimental, dance-influenced pop music thrived - Yellow Magic Orchestra, Perfume, Kyary Pamyu Pamyu. I believe it's somewhat of a cyclical movement in music trends, and somewhere along the cycle, Hyperpop is going to chart in Japan. Right now, Hip-Hop is blowing up in Japan, which also means autotune is getting known. Some rap acts that kind of step into Hyperpop are getting very popular too (eg. LEX, STAR KIDS etc). Japan is also known for Vocaloid, and it has been widely popular for the past decade. Some of our biggest pop singers right now used to be Vocaloid producers, and the singing style of Vocaloids have translated to real singers (eg. Ado, YOASOBI). Vocaloids have drastically changed how vocals are sang in Japan, and I think that might be the key for Hyperpop vocal alterations to flourish in Japan. As Hyperpop becomes popular in Japan, vocaloid producers in Japan will join the movement, and adjacent acts will follow. Overtime, the influence will seep to the mainstream, and we will end up with a Japanized Hyperpop. This is just my personal account, but Japan tends to be late on Anglophonic trends by about 8 years, so at 2030 I'd imagine we'll have our own spin in this beloved genre of bizarre vocal effects. Damn, I wrote a lot for an April Fool's joke video but yeah, I kinda nerded out. Have a nice day.
I recently listened to those chipmunks albums i found in my ''closet'' record collection. Urban Chipmunks is pretty great haha By the way, where is that bandcamp link?
the chimpmunks may have created hyperpop but gen z invented the most experimental genres of all time (weirdcore, k pop, goblincore, dreamcore, sadcore, slowed+reverb, tik tok songs, phonk)
Hey 108 Mics,
As a fellow music lover, I am very thankful of your videos.
Your addition to humanity's collective knowledge is a real blessing to your species, even if you look like a Bladee fan.
I do recognize that you have focused on A&TC due to their popularity, but I honestly feel like some of the things omitted are too big to ignore.
Below, I have written a bit about different ways vocals have been altered throughout history - only focusing on A&TC would ignore what lead to the acceptance of the bizarre vocals, and ignoring what followed just because of the year ignores other developments that may have lead to Hyperpop.
(I will only focus on the vocal elements as this video pretty compares the vocal element of A&TC and Hyperpop)
One method of vocal alteration that predates any form of modern technology is overtone / throat singing.
Such techniques could be found world wide - while the style maybe different, the overall effect is similar.
In a sense, this is one an organic way to shift formants, a key characteristic in Hyperpop vocals.
While forms like koohmi are generally believed to have originated from spiritual practices, it has transformed into a musical performance.
This indicates that human throughout history have had the ear and context to accept transformed vocals in their music, and that the appeal is far more universal than A&TC, which is pretty much an American culture icon.
Another example of vocal alteration is Castrato. This is when you cut the balls off of boys so they don't have natural testosterones levels. You get a grown man with the voice of a boy.
While you could say that this isn't technically an vocal alteration because you alter the whole body, it still is an example of the appeal of unnatural vocals in the western musical context.
This shows people always have been listening to vocal performances that break our traditional notion of voices for a long time, regardless of class (and therefore, different cultural contexts).
At least in music, the idea to change voices had no boundaries in terms of class, area, and time - they have been practiced everywhere, anytime.
This outlines a possible explanation to why the concept of mechanically pitched up vocals were accepted with relative ease, unlike some other forms of vocal techniques (eg death metal growls). Vocals that sound "different" is not as new or shocking at the point of A&TC - it has been done and performed for a long time around the world.
Another thing I want to point out is that Wizard of Oz, a movie that was released in the 1930s and was also widely popular, also had mechanically altered vocals for effect.
This predates A&TC and is used in the music as well. I am not suggesting that A&TC is a rip off of Wizard of Oz, but I am noting that altered vocals has been entering the American pop culture before A&TC. Even if the people have not heard of Castrato or koohmi, they were most likely aware of altering vocals from mediums before A&TC.
Musical techniques that are too new and foreign generally don't get accepted easily by the masses, so it takes some getting used to. WoO may have been the aperitif to the long history of altered vocals entering the popular music scene (which would eventually lead to Hyperpop).
Now, to be totally honest, I am very skeptical on how A&TC "invented" Hyperpop simply due to the relevancy to modern music. Yeah, there are movies, but much more modern musical developments surely are more directly influential to the creation of Hyperpop. Avante-Garde music's experimentation on recorded audio and vocals, vocal distortion from punk/grunge recordings, the blurring of singing and non-sang vocals through sprechgesang and rap, the use of vocal effects such as talkbox / vocoders / autotune / Vine-era earrape memes etc.
Personally, A&TC is not a contender to be considered as the inventor of Hyperpop simply because it is is not an originator, and it's place in history is a footnote rather than a chapter.
At the end of the day, the desire and wide acceptance of altered vocals is the origin and inventor of Hyperpop, and we cannot point to A&TC alone.
Now, here's a little thought I had on my own cultural background in relation to this topic.
As a Japanese person (I imagine you could tell from my lackluster English), I can vouch that A&TC is simply not known in Japan.
In addition, Wizard of Oz, Castrato, koohmi are all unknown as well, and Japan doesn't really have a history of throat singing.
So, from what this video and my comment suggests, Japan has no real base for Hyperpop to proliferate other than via US popular culture, which does pretty poorly in Japan (unless you're a popular white singer).
Hyperpop is also not known here, but I highly anticipate a sudden boom in Hyperpop in Japan, probably a form of "J-Hyperpop" to develop in the next decade or so.
Let me explain.
1.We have a song called はじめてのチュウ in the 90s that was widely popular that basically is Japan's A&TC.
While the younger generations do not know of this, revisiting old pop culture is a thing right now (the amount of 80s citypop used for boomers to boost their ego is insane).
This is probably because the Japanese youth are too broke to consume anything, so record labels and the entertainment industry is targeting the older generation's wallets - hence creating a "revival" trend within Japan.
I have no doubt that at one point はじめてのチュウ will be popular again.
2.The "Anime voice".
Anyone whos watched a bit of anime knows that voices are sometimes heavily altered to portray certain characters, and a lot of times vocal qualities are heavily exaggerated for effect.
はじめてのチュウ was also written for anime. Now, "Anime voice" has become a bit of a slang to describe any voice that sounds anime-ish and doesn't sound natural. It used to be that these were only heard in Anime, but with voice actors diversifying their jobs and new forms of vocal consumption (eg VTubers) arising, the arena for altered / different vocals keeps on growing.
There's even a live streamer that uses autotune that is fairly poplar. It is a matter of time before more extreme uses of vocal alteration techniques become accepted.
Furthermore, robots and villains in anime usually have some sort of effect on them. Music, anime, and games are closely knitted together in today's market (eg Hypnosis-mic, all the idol games etc) - it's a matter of time before an anime character with highly altered voice drops a song for fans to listen to.
3. Music in Japan
As of now, Japan's pop charts is mostly pop-rock influenced stuff - Japan loves it's mid-ranged instrumentation. However, there have been key moments when more experimental, dance-influenced pop music thrived - Yellow Magic Orchestra, Perfume, Kyary Pamyu Pamyu. I believe it's somewhat of a cyclical movement in music trends, and somewhere along the cycle, Hyperpop is going to chart in Japan. Right now, Hip-Hop is blowing up in Japan, which also means autotune is getting known. Some rap acts that kind of step into Hyperpop are getting very popular too (eg. LEX, STAR KIDS etc). Japan is also known for Vocaloid, and it has been widely popular for the past decade. Some of our biggest pop singers right now used to be Vocaloid producers, and the singing style of Vocaloids have translated to real singers (eg. Ado, YOASOBI). Vocaloids have drastically changed how vocals are sang in Japan, and I think that might be the key for Hyperpop vocal alterations to flourish in Japan. As Hyperpop becomes popular in Japan, vocaloid producers in Japan will join the movement, and adjacent acts will follow.
Overtime, the influence will seep to the mainstream, and we will end up with a Japanized Hyperpop. This is just my personal account, but Japan tends to be late on Anglophonic trends by about 8 years, so at 2030 I'd imagine we'll have our own spin in this beloved genre of bizarre vocal effects.
Damn, I wrote a lot for an April Fool's joke video but yeah, I kinda nerded out.
Have a nice day.
You have proven you look like a bladee fan
Absolutely love the fact that the sources listed are a single wikipedia page. 10/10 parody
Your telling me that 108 Mics decides to reveal his face in THIS video? I’m sold. I’m fuckin’ sold
The page turn sound effect got me dying 😂😭
You, sir, just won the internet, for today...
Edit: thank you for all the likes everyone
just passkng by to tel u thwt i liked dis comend!!! :Dd
r/woosjhhhhh
4:46 THANK GOD SKELETON PRINCE IS GETTING THE RECOGNITION HE DESERVES
If anything they're the predecessors of virtual bands like the Gorillaz than hyperpop.
It's always great when you upload!
I laugh at Alvin memes only to find out they invented half the music I listen to …
bro that page turn soundclip is making me wanna die reminding me of keynotes from a decade ago
This is such a good fcking video lmaooo when 8 year old kids grow up on the internet. Such truth.
this is a great parody of pretentious video essays
I recently listened to those chipmunks albums i found in my ''closet'' record collection. Urban Chipmunks is pretty great haha
By the way, where is that bandcamp link?
You talking this slow is making me uncomfortable
ayy face reveal
best youtuber you put me on to so much music
the chimpmunks may have created hyperpop but gen z invented the most experimental genres of all time (weirdcore, k pop, goblincore, dreamcore, sadcore, slowed+reverb, tik tok songs, phonk)
sucha good video, you should have more subs tbh
SEXY FACE WOOOOOOO
I used to watch a lot of those Alvin and the Chipmunks cartoons and that dated 2007 movie.
AAAAAAA FACE REVEAL
im coming over
True and real
trill
this vid is a gift
I miss the days of nightcore.
I love this thank you thank you I love this
holy based
Real
i love how bad thie video is, in a good way