INSANE EV CHARGER INSTALL AT DONCASTER CABLES' FACTORY
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- Опубликовано: 31 май 2024
- INSANE EV CHARGER INSTALL AT DONCASTER CABLES' FACTORY.
Join Jordan, Cory and Luke for a special commercial EV charge point installation at the Doncaster Cables factory. The Artisan team install 4 different EV charge points using Doncaster Cables' very own EV Ultra cable as well as getting up to all their usual antics. Cory plays a prank on Jordan, Luke learns a lesson that could save his job and Jordan enjoys a good northern breakfast!
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Timestamps:
00:00 Coming up in today’s episode
00:10 We’re at Doncaster Cables
01:03 Here’s what we’re doing
02:17 Lock out tag out with Cory
03:23 Re-use the board?
04:26 Burnt out Rolec
05:41 Cable tray plan
07:19 This van is a disaster!
08:07 Prepping the new DB
10:20 Day 2
11:46 “Borrowing” some cable
12:19 On site guide to the rescue
13:25 A Northern breakfast
14:01 Why we use EV Ultra cable
15:48 4 charge points head to head
17:21 Correct PPE!
18:03 Cory’s DB update
19:16 Hijacking the factory
20:12 Northern hospitality
20:26 Superb stripper
21:54 Tool or the day - Armeg Impact rated roof and bolt driver
22:46 Cory’s spider prank on Jordan
24:00 Cable puling made so easy
26:00 A lesson in cable tying
27:15 Cold cutting or Kolkata
27:38 Mounting the EV charge points
28:19 Honest tool review!
29:59 Day 3
31:55 The finished DB
33:05 Competition winner announcement
34:37 The finished product - Job done
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me waiting quietly for the Flexi con jokes
HAHAHA I WAS SOOO TEMPTED
So was I, 😁
I was waiting as well after all the defrosting jokes lately
When I saw the flexi con I did think that Bundy been there before. (Or was it one of Adam's weekend jobs) Luckily Artisan ripped out the shocking workman ship, and put in some quality cables, and chargers! (Love both of you channels!(
Yes
It was great to have you on site for those (short 😢) few days! The final result looks great and the cable you used looks... familiar?? As a side, at about 33:06 Cory starts dancing (At least we think it's dancing?) and we can't believe you didn't notice 😂
Yeah that cable stuff looks really good I think its made by Prysmian
“Up schitts creek without a paddle” 😂😂😂😂😂❤❤ love the content!!
Amazing guys work! Very nice idea you installed on the wall. Cory makes these videos. He's funny putting spiders in Jordan's EV. Wait to see Jordan will laugh.. Thumbs up!!!! Cheers!!!
It's like regular electrical work taking place interrupted every 5 minutes by Jordan from the shopping channel! 🤦♂️
“Up the creek without a paddle!” , is the appropriate description and is suitable for use Down-under. I have generally heard more colourful language used in the example provided! 😂😜
Cory makes these videos he’s so funny !!
"Up the creek" is the correct saying 🙂
This channel is now one big advertising channel
Hope your other vendor has plenty of charge ports! Ringo's drumming made him famous too.
we do 1.5m for every bracket, and uni strut for cable tray runs, we use the zebs clips and the 90s clips on the side to hold them in place as well the connections on the tray so they are very secure, from the ceiling and along a wall as well
Great job well done all of you.
Video of the year Jordan! Really enjoyed that, especially seeing our friends up at Doncaster cables. Give us an update on the spider.
I have used an Ideal cable sheath stripper like Knipex brand since 1978. It has saved me alot of time and skined cables over the years. Enjoyed the video and learned somethings too.
Nice job except using 200mm cable tray was excessively wide, and the cables just resting over the edge of the tray??
As mentioned below, I'd also be furious if someone put a spider in my vehicle like that.
Not to mention a bit sad for the spider too.
True blue aussie here, its "Up shits creek without a paddle".
For what it's worth, the Aussie expression is "up shit creek without a paddle." Great video as always!
Yeah I was looking for that. Up shit creek
What beautiful install guys
"Up S**t Creek, without a Paddle", from an Aussie. Enjoy the channel. keep up the great work!
Ha yeah came to the comments to put this one in
The spider in the van, that’s going to be fun if it comes out when driving! 🤣
It’s actually really stupid and dangerous, there’s a true story in America when a woman died after lowering her sun visor and a spider fell on her lap , she panicked and went straight over a cliff edge .
I’d go mental if he did that to my van .
@@mrgfromoxford8644 yeah I wouldn’t be very happy either. I hate spiders massively. I don’t think he intended for it to go inside the actual dash though looking at his reaction
It came out of its own fruition later on that day fortunately. Luke spotted it and he was freed 😆. Unfortunately the VW lives on
Your best video for a while. I really enjoyed it, I also prefer watching industrial work over domestic, and I would rather do it too. The Armeg screw head looks a great little tool. I might have to invest in one.
I would have preferred to see the cables dressed on the lower side of the tray, then any additional cables that needed to be added wouldn’t have to cross everything you’ve just installed. A transition to a smaller piece of tray for the drops down to the chargers would have looked even more professional. It’s always easy to comment as your watching someone else’s install in the comfort of your home. It’s completely different when you’re on site with what you believe is all the materials you will need. I know from experience. Keep the vids coming guys 👍
Amazing job 👏 congratulations 👏 🎊
This video needs 100% more Ruben
RJ11 connector, not RS485 (which is a serial standard).
I also hope you clamp each current clamp onto the same phase of the incomer as the charger is connected to. It'd be entertaining otherwise. (3 phase is such fun!)
RJ11 all day long lol
Technically, if it has four contacts then it is RJ14 (RJ11 only has two contacts)
@@davepusey nah mate, RJ11 has the possibility of having 6 pins, it is usually seen with just 4 connectors, but on some telephones you will see just 2 used, RJ9 / RJ11 or RJ22 have 4 pins but are smaller in size than the RJ11
great Artisan instal Jordan , Cory and Luke ,keep up your extent work ,
Thanks 👍
Great content guys , and really enjoying learning from you guys thanks Jensen ⚡️👊
I enjoyed watching this video! 👍 Good work lads
Up sh*t creek without a paddle, come on Jordan lol!
Great video, absolutely love the passion & pride you guys have for the trade.👍🏼 I hope no spiders were harmed in the making of this video.😂 You all have done a really neat & tidy job of the EV chargers.👌🏼 Cory thanks for the funny entertainment, Well done guys.👏🏼
Thanks a lot!
Great video guys !.
Looking forward to the factory tour.
I was looking at the amount of green mould on the old Rolec units your removed and the huge amount of green mould on the that drip fence, at the bottom of the side cladding ( above your new cable trays ) sitting on the top of brick wall of the building.
The amount of water that hits the side of the factory, is ALL leaving off that drip fence.
When it leaves the drip fence, all of that water is going to test the I.P. rating of them new four units to the Max !.
I personal would recommend some additional protection from the sheer deluge of water leaving the side of that factory cladding via the dip fence.
They could really do with four small canopies over each of the wall boxes really ?.
I think it would really scary to see the level / amount of water hitting them units in a heavy storm.
No I.P rating is going to stand up to that level of water ingress long term.
What do you think Jordan ?.
A recommendation to the customer to install a few small canopies ?.
Could save a few calls backs due water ingress 🤔?.
Nice to see you up my neck of the woods. would have nipped over and introduced myself . as always brilliant and interesting video.
Great video. You guys are so clever 👍
I’ve got a RS pro wire stripper I used offshore which is very similar to the one in this video. Never had much luck with it so stuck with knife but going to give it another go👍
Great video and demonstrated your professionalism in installing EV chargers.
Is there not a cover you could add for the trunking ?
cool vid i have been looking for them cable rollers .
M10 red heads for that tray!! Jesus
Lovely neat job.
No earth on the tray sorry lads stick to houses the way the cable comes off the tray is shite
Nice work boys. Just an idea but I personally would of cut t pieces into the tray where the armoureds come down and used tray to come down to just above the EV chargers. Would given a nicer finish rather than the armoured coming over the sides of the tray. Other than that nice work. Keep up the great content!
When the pages of you're on-site guide are stuck together... You've been enjoying reading it far too much!
Cant wait for this one!
Great video !
Great video guys! One point to note, in my experirence using cable ties on outside cable tray. The ties only last for about 5 years, due to the weather and enviroment conditions. Best to use cable clamps - more expensive though! I had the task of replacing the snapped ties on a run of tray once, man that SWA cable was heavy!
Will / should use metal ties therfor last way more than 5 years
@@makg4655 they weren't around 25 years ago me old
Cracking video as always!
Glad to see they gave you some proper food while you were up here :)
Good job guys but the only thing letting you down is the hole you made for the cable entry to the board. Use some fire rated foam or fire products to seal and protect.
Being an ole boy from heavy industry, a few old euphamsims entered this apprentices' tender ears in the 1980's. Most cannot be repeated!
Amongst the more tame was up sh*t creak. If something turned into a huge job unexpectedly, it was said to be 'a bigger epic than Ben Hurr'. If many things went wrong at once it was said to be a 'cluster f*ck'.
"up the creek, without a paddle" in OZ
Cant wait for this one
I used to live about 200 metres from the doncaster cables factory in bentley. I still work in sunny donny! In fact the house i lived in is on the far left of the drone shot at 16:34!
20:45 i'm using this Yokari (c) style knife ( German ) since my days at college ( somewhere in the 90's )
Nice job 😎
Three phase boards. Scary work those!
Totally common in Germany!
I would love to see your own branded cables that would be brilliant because that would be able to advertise who installed it and who done the amazing cable running and amazing angle drilling
What you use in industrial applications looks a lot like what we use in residential applications in Canada, haha... Although residential and industrial are actually pretty similar here, just the scale is different.
Nice job boys. I wonder when the spider might pop up & scare Jordan.
Another great video, nice to see you all hard at work, and taking such pride and care with the install, good to see some other makes of EV chargers to, the last one looked neat and compact, but tight to wire? ideal for the front of my house (maybe) :) nice to see the different EV Ultra cables they make, and they you may get your own Tag on it, on the subject of the cable, there are no instructions of how to enter the free giveaway for the Artisan Branded EV Ultra Cable :) maybe its just a thumbs up (done) and a comment? (done). Can not wait for the next upload from you :):)
The sync ev is compact but is an absolute doddle to wire, you can only use certain entry points but its the safest and smallest harger on the market
looks really good with the tray and all only thing i would have done different is to not use foam to close the hole since it tends to look really nasty after some time and crumble, but silicon would also be no good by that big of a hole, best would be mortar or cement or something similar
What a video! Please do way more multi-charger installs if possible! Would be great to see e.g. 4 Zappies, each with 3phase and with full solar and battery integration 🤓
Of course you need the customer for this, but if possible, please do!!
Thanks!
One thing puzzles me though.
If that cable has 3 cores and a data cable in it won't the AC frequency I give interference on the data lines?
As I understand from a network point of view you never run a cat5 cable along AC cables.
It must have been in 70's when Ideal were selling a cable sheath stripping tool just like that, a 'V' section to guide the cable with an eccentric central , rotating blade so it stripped around the cheath and then along the sheath. They were standard issue at a company back in those days as 'American District Telegraph'
I probably still have one somewhere.
No way that spider will come out on the Motorway...the range will have it back in a charge station before the spider makes it out from behind the dash. 🤣🤣🤣
Very nice work! The only thing you should have done is to put the cabels low on the tray instead of high as if in the future you add more chagers the new cabels now has to cross the old cabels.
Is the load monitoring different for them? Single phase charger on 3 phase install or does it just monitor the phase it's installed on?
Great video but just one question? How far did Jordan get before he realised the Ohme back plate was upside down?
26:40, Jordan, no safety glasses whilst cutting the cable ties, tut tut, you said to call it out 😉
Another quality video lads
Glad you enjoyed it
What do you guys think of the PodPoint charge points? I recently had one installed for my yet to be delivered Audi etron.
Did they not scrap the set heights for EV chargers in Amendment 1 of 18th edition?
I’d personally still fit them between the heights mentioned for accessibility. Just curious??
Interesting video. 4 year apprenticeship in Ireland from commercial side. Cable tray , trunking and conduit. Within a year you are doing that by yourself and is seen as not a important job. Its expected you can run that. I think domestic sparks getting better wiring knowledge at the start. I for sure lagged behind when I went to college. UK system seems funny. Do you guys go to college one day a week ? We do 7 or 8 months on site and the rest in college . Its all done in block slots.
Fair play on shout out on PPE. Always wear your goggles at least
Ok
Nice vid again boys
That EV ultra stripper is also under another name originally called "WEICON". The EV ultra branded one must be more expensive but they are both exactly the same thing made in the same factory
Its a great little tool!
@@artisanelectrics for sure, there’s also one with a knife blade on top.
Spare blades aren’t easily available on amazon, weicon do sell them. I’d just sharpen it by hand
Proper Northern breakfast... would be from a van in a layby. :)
Oh yes!
YOUR BEST ASSET IS CORY!
(Help, Cory just randomly broke into my house and told me to write this).
You have used one cable diameter between each final circuit, unless you have applied a correction factor
Luke really does look like Podrick Payne off Game Of Thrones 😂
I assume since Doncaster Cable is calling it Cat5 it passes standard Cat5 tests, but I'd be interested to see the performance with it literally bundled beside high amperage power wires. Obviously speed isn't terribly important if it's just being used to monitor the CT's or give a data connection to the Charger, but it would be interesting to know regardless.
Is it a shielded Cat5?
Looking at the specs for these cables, it's just a normal Cat 5 cable rolled in with the other wires. None of the chargers use the full speed of a Cat 5 and it's only used to make it easier to hook them up to an existing network, so it's doubtful the noise from the power going through the neighbouring wires is a concern. Would not be surprised if they worked just as well with a regular phone cable hooked up to the RJ45 connectors
its all about the FLUSH CUTTER!! :) but i'll defend the interchangeable Wera drivers for service calls or field service work specifically where you have flown or traveled by ship to the job.
Along with glasses on the job, Gotta have harness and helmet on when going up on the lifts (Or at least harness i think). Also the cable cutter thing is called a Jokari cable stripper, Theres a bunch of them depending on what diameter you need to strip. Think the only difference is between a jokari and the one you got is brand name, Not sure though, Looked exactly like a jokari.
Come on, you can use standard side cutters and get a flush cut. I only found this out about 2 months ago after twenty five years in the industry. We live and learn.
4 chargers did you put each charger on a different phase to balance the load on the three phases obviously 2 of the 4 will have be on one phase , bit of diversity would apply but if all the chargers were on at the same time it could give you load issues depending on what else is being supplied .worth a thought I would also cut the t into the tray to do the drops to the chargers .but nice work keep it up 👍👍
Nice to see the various chargers and I suppose that was the point ie to compare and contrast. But otherwise, the Easee Charger for 3 phase with built in load balancing would allow all 4 chargers to be put on a single circuit. Assuming not a massive demand.
I hate to say it (not really 😀) but I do think you missed a trick by not routing the cables over and behind the cable tray before coming down the wall to the chargers. Would be so much neater.
Why is the Ohme junction box low? Could a EV reverse into it?
Yes indeed Jordan - "up sh*t creek without a paddle"
Go 'Billy Preston' Cory!
Fine Thank to make ev charger expert thank
Dose running data and mains electric so close together not cause issue with data transfer? I always told to run the 2 separately.
In practice it does not. In this case it isn't "data" anyway as it's an analogue signal coming from the CTs. Remember that the live and neutral fields also cancel each other out pretty well (equal current running opposite directions) so it's not really an issue even for actual data use. Shielding doesn't protect against EMI, it's primarily for RFI.
Dave’s on a roll 😂😂😂
How far apart do the ct clamps have to be from each other to avoid interference?
Is it bad that i am sooo jealous of Luke. As i am sure there are many more like me out there.
I do love the way you all take so much care to produce a beautiful end product. I was so disappointed when the installers of my solar panels and Zappi charger used standard twin and earth in conduit to connect the charger - it looks amateurish after seeing your installations.
Mounted the ohme home pro back plate upside down lol
Hmm the stripping tool goes the other way around the cable then yes pull or push along the cable.
It’s up the creek mate
With that much roof space I'm surprised they don't have a massive solar array!
I appreciate this was to show off Doncaster EV Ultra cable which I love, but using a selection of different charge points with their own CT clamps, internet connections, apps, internal protective devices and PEN fault systems seems bonkers and rather messy. If three phase is available then all outlets should be three phase. I can't see that having multiple "brains" trying to load manage is going to work properly. I would have used Woertz Ecobus Power I 5G16mm2 flat cable from a single 63A MCB and tapped off four times and used Easee outlets that talk to each other. One PEN fault/earth rod installation. Can control charging via RFID cards and have reception keep some for guests
That stripping tool looks like a life saver where did you get it from please?
Did I see right, three days to do this with three of you?
Figured it would’ve taken two days tops with two of you!
1 Day max 2 Guys here in Germany
The work only took a day but Jordan’s van needed the rest of the time to get a full charge
@@EdthePlumber pretty much 😂
Plus camera guy !!! Ching Ching
It was only less than two full days work but we had two half days travelling up and back and the time doing the factory tour and lots of eating 😂
Question, surely it is a bad idea to be running data cables in such close proximity to the power cables due to factors like EMC and RFI. Even with shielded data cables, surely they should be run at least a couple of inches apart. I appreciate the practicalities of just having a single cable, but fear this could be a factor in many vehicles having trouble connecting at some chargeports. Interested in your thoughts / opinions. (the product datasheets seem to be particularly vague on this matter, I would be interested in some test data)
“The difference between any old cowboy, and an Artisan [cowboy]…” 😉
When I need a cowboy to install my EV charger, I’ll be asking for an Artisan cowboy 🤠
That makes no sense whatsoever
Makes perfect sense, and there are two points in there.
Firstly the “any old” is generally used when comparing one type of cowboy with another type of cowboy. It’s actually superfluous in Jordan’s statement as he doesn’t need to use it, however seeing as he does, he’s implying that Artisan are cowboy, but it’s more likely to be a Freudian slip.
Secondly, Artisan aren’t cowboys so I’d have them here when I get an EV installed.