"All of the world's problems could be solved if everyone minded their own business" Amy I have thought this to myself SO MANY TIMES!!! Like it's so SIMPLE
INTJ here. I related to the part where you spoke about women hugging each other and being excited to see each other. All the women at my job hug each other as a form of greeting. They have no trouble initiating the hug or saying they are happy to see one another, this doesn’t come naturally to me, so being hugged so much through out the day was really awkward at first. My close friends know I am not too comfortable with physical touch, so they know my boundaries, at my job I am not vocal because I am already really reserved and I know I come off as stuck up. I have also been accused of it many times over the years. It’s great to hear women I can actually relate to !
I couldn't agree more about living alone! I love living alone so much! I recently went back to school to peruse another degree plan, I had to give up my job for school hours, which caused me to have to share a place to save money and honestly, the lack of privacy has been depressing. I'm not a shy INTJ either, I just loving being in my own place with my own plans and stuff. Also, at all of the jobs I've held in the past, there has always been one or two people at each job that have really "latched on" to me and tried really hard to be my friend. Half of those people would eventually tell me that at first, they thought I was really stuck up, but once they got to know me they found that wasn't the case. Really good video, always feels great to hear other INTJ's talking about themselves. I don't know any INTJ's personally, I usually stay true to my personality, but there are those moments when I feel like I might be the only one like this. So it's great to hear other people share similar traits. I think the important thing to remember is that, when you see introverted people interact, remember that's not the norm, that's who they are and you are who you are. To conform to other personalities is not being yourself, it's wasting your life and robbing yourself of happiness. Have a great day. :D
I am a politically active INTJ. I think that's where the J comes in. We're solvers/fixers when we see a problem. We are not sitting back perceiving and letting things just be. We take action. When the question of autonomy was brought up, I couldn't agree more. No one should force their views or values on anyone else, this is a form of oppression, and I am a fighter for autonomy. I agree with the statement "everybody mind your own business" and "each individual [should] have the same amount of potential to succeed in their life, but according to their own way of living." You should really read Karl Marx, he was also an INTJ. There have been many famous political INTJs. Susan B. Anthony, Vladimir Lenin, J.F.K., Hillary Clinton, Ayn Rand, etc.
I can't tell you how comforting it is to hear that you people have the same themes in your lives. The longing for that bubbly connection where there's spontaneous overflow of feeling. The disconnect. I've been called aloof, intimidating, mysterious! By so many people. It's also so nice to be told that I don't have to be outspoken. I have felt really guilty about not loudspeakering about politics as my friends do. I've accused myself of being uncommitted or even lily-livered. But it's true - I find it unnecessary to tell people what I think about a lot of stuff. I'm always like: "why do people use all this air talking about what they think?". I'm not sure what I'd rather talk about. Well, I love just pure joking. Pure silliness. That serves a purpose as it's challenging me creatively and entertaining me. Or serious ideas talk. I think that's my native home - serious ideas talk.
Oh wow, that's so true about how we sort of don't want to interact with people because of how our external functions are perceptive rather than relative. Interesting! And also that point about how we don't bond with others very easily! That is so true! I never really thought about that too much but it's true! I know I WANT to bond with people but it has to be right and there are just so many ways that I can foresee most relationships won't turn out well so I don't even go there. I want to bond with people with whom I can relate and carry on intellectual, meaningful conversations and shared values and goals. It's hard to find that. But I don't settle for less than that. It's so true too that I've always been fascinated by watching Fe. It's so foreign to me while also pervasive in society. I think that's why of all the types with Fe, I am drawn to the INFJs and ENFJs. They've got a combination of Fe and Ni that is so intriguing. My other favorite type is the INFP. I tend to be very drawn to them and they to me. All great points ladies! Thank you for sharing your perspectives in these videos!
I've been watching your channel's videos lately and have found it very insightful for better understanding Fi. This video was especially insightful. One thing that stuck out to me (the rest of the video was great, but this is just an example) was the notion that you associated Fe with maturity when you were younger, but have since come more into your own, and now see Fe as something you don't necessarily need like you thought; you rebel against that childhood pressure, almost like rebelling against an unhelpful Freudian superego. I put things that way because I think it actually links into the Socionics notion of the "vulnerable" function or "point of least resistance", which is the function for a given type that represents what they feel society expects them to do, but they don't like doing it and really struggle to do it and feel continually inadequate doing it. See, for me the "vulnerable" function is Te, and that was definitely (and still is to some degree) my unhelpful superego: the feeling that someday I've got to handle things like taxes, or getting a job, or supporting a family financially...but more than that, just the feeling that I'm supposed to optimize my performance, or set clear quantifiable goals, or discipline myself in the way that self-help books talk about, and "when am I going to start doing that?" Taking charge of my life in that way, I guess. My mind doesn't know how to think in terms of accomplishing goals -- it wants to think in terms of eternal principles that I just follow eternally (Ti, I think). Oh, also, the notion of protests. I don't know if you were both in agreement that protests have a lot to do with Fi, but that would seem to align with my own experience, because in true Jeffersonian fashion (believing that IDRlabs is right in typing him INFJ) I just cannot see how in-the-moment argument could solve anything, much less protesting...but I know people (I'm thinking specifically of an ENFP friend) who are quite passionate about it, and to be honest, it makes me cringe, and I really do think that it comes down to a type difference. The Fe friends I have don't think in terms of protests or even rallies. They prefer things be calmer and smoother -- because they are actually much more democratic in their judgement. They want an even playing field, but the idea of a protest is more Fi because it is an expression of feelings from the people's perspective right now. And ANOTHER thing -- you guys get my thoughts going -- that one humorous quip, "Fi will save the world" is so wonderfully characteristic of MBTI in general -- that's how people feel about their different functions, and they're all right...to a point. I noticed you mentioning how Fe types may think differently about the matter, I assure you, the one's I know *do*. Vehemently, I'm afraid... Anyway, great stuff! I really appreciate the hard work you guys have put in! (and obviously I'm flattered you've mentioned me in your videos :) )
Just realized the way I said, "in Socionics, it's called the 'vulnerable' function'" sounded rather condescending, especially because I just saw your own video about "blindspot" functions show up in the feed next to my comment. So why on earth was I trying to educate you on Socionics. Well I'll tell you why: because I naturally assume as an Fe politeness that people I haven't talked with don't know about MBTI so I just automatically make sure we're on the same page. Instead of maybe checking beforehand to see if they know. Anyway. Maybe that's a stretch. I will be watching that video presently. Anyway, sorry about that, though I'm guessing you probably didn't notice and didn't care, but gosh dang it I did. So there. :P
INTJ: Hi Michael, Thanks so much for your response! Calypso and I have been watching your channel for quite a while, so it's great to finally say hi :) Great point about polr Fe! Our inability to or sometimes just indifference on using Fe when appropriate probably also contributes quite a bit to the independent/aloof air INTJs can give off sometimes. What you say about protests is interesting! I think in this video I said that NFJs may be more prone to it, but perhaps it's just a difference in approach. What I have noticed is that Fe users tend to be more vocal about supporting social causes (not necessarily protests) and rallying others to assist or get on board in a way that's generally uplifting and inclusive. But maybe Fi users are more passionate about doing what they consider to be right for themselves and don't mind ruffling some feathers along the way if they think it's for the best - I could even put myself in that camp occasionally :) Thank you for your videos - you make make really excellent content!
Michael Pierce Your Videos have been very helpful in regards to the differentiation between axis and perception functions. Thank you very much for the beautiful "ambiance" that you so carefully craft for your Videos. I heard (If I'm not mistaken) that your father was Intp. I recently (3 or for days ago) had a debate with other intp's against youtuber 999 GreenEyes. On his video "Convincing an Intp thats an Istp" The guy deleted the comments 3 times. I was wandering if you were interested in reading it. Im intrigued by your opinion (And Ni-Fe with polrTe when dissecting an argument) I cant decide if Marx was Infj or Intj (Im leaning to Infj) Sorry if I made some Grammatical errors. English isn't my first language.
I love that you mention protests and principles since I don't thinks it's mentioned so much in relation to INTJs. I'm in a few social justice orgs myself and even though I'm not the loudest member, I help through proposing and editing strategies for the maximum impact.
Greetings and heartfelt appreciation from an INTJ male. When you related your feelings of longing for emotional connection around an anecdote beginning at 15:00, I felt an attack of relatability that touched me so deeply it made tears well up. Thank you so much for sharing. I think we INTJs really need each other to relate to on things like that - I feel that very few people understand us besides us to a point that is nearly enough to make us feel fulfilled.
My mom always complains that I stay at the bedroom all the time and seldom watch TV with her kind of thing. I really love being alone. My mom is an extrovert and really caring about people. Therefore, to prove that I am totally mentally healthy, Sometimes I will have conversations with her about what I am doing and what I thinking about. And then she is really happy.
It is very rare for me (INTJ) to express much emotion to others besides my children and a small few others. Also, its not thinking "we" are better than. Its more like I don't want bothered by the drama/empty energy/thought sucking nonsense out in the world. Sure I can think on lots of topics. But to actually have to be a part of it all is draining.
As an INTJ female I find it much easier to relate to - and bond with (in as much as I am capable of bonding) - men, rather than with women. Is this true for other female INTJs? I resonated with what you said about watching female bonds and friendships and feeling like I must be missing out on something, but not knowing how to have that and definitely not feeling like I would be able to handle it. The few female friendships I do have, I'm not able to really connect with them because we are so vastly different...and some, like my ESFJ friend can be downright suffocating even if I know it's not intentional. I feel like stereotypically, most (or at least a lot more) men are less emotionally focused/clingy, and more focused on practical capabilities which I can relate to. I find it easier to be myself around men rather than women because they are more open to individuality and accepting my different interests. Whereas most women have more traditional views about how women "should be" and what women should be interested in and find it difficult to accept and relate to me.
Not at all. I`ve come across some incredibly smart women whom are a lot more "developed" than most males I meet. As long as they are intellectually interesting and emotionally "healthy" I enjoy friendships of different types.
INTJ female here. Can't relate honestly. As poorly as I relate to women it's near impossible to interact with men because even though they are stereotypically thought of as more "rational and logical " than females, it has been nigh impossible to find one that will consider me their peer in whatever shared interest we have, not try to patronize or control me, or maintain a platonic friendship without going and making things weird. Come to think of it, I've gotten more flack from men for not being a more typical female than other women. Usually women have been more supportive and accepting of me than guys. It baffles even myself, but I can ONLY befriend other women, and agree with the above comment (Nea).
This was very interesting. Totally feel the Fe problems. I was raised around it so much but I was also aware of how pointless it seems. It truly seems to revolve around your experiences with the world when you were young. My mom is an ESFP, and my dad is ISFJ so I always felt the pressure of Fe. My dad hated how bad I was at responding to social norms. *Teacher that doesn't talk to me waves* "Why me?" The cognitive functions set root once you reach the age of self(somewhere around 4-7), which was when I was being raised by my dad. The thing I really appreciate from him is he never sheltered me from the world. He told me his life stories and basically everything he ever did wrong(he was a hardcore partier). I believe the types are formed based off their parents. They say that is who we observe most when we grow up. The introversion kinda just snapped at a certain age and all of a sudden I didn't feel comfortable speaking to everyone. I got my dad's awareness for self identity, introversion, but ultimately I created myself through thinking and wondering about things to myself, NTJ. I always thought my mom was an INTJ as well, but I think that was just her ego showing humility around me.
Two of my daughters are Esfj and Isfj. The Isfj came to visit me one weekend and she literally talked for 10 hours straight after I picked her up. I was completely exhausted after she left.
"Everyone just mind your own business" I, as an ENFJ completely agree with this. I just personally can't help but to be drawn to understanding people, especially when I disagree with them- and then proving who's right and who's wrong and why. Even though not everyone wants to hear it and it can even make people hate you, I still think it's important that SOMEONE talks about it because there are just too many people out there who just wouldn't have thought about it otherwise. (btw as I was typing, you just kinda just said exactly what I was saying, which is kinda hilarious.) -Also, I really do this for my own benefit too, I kinda need to process alot of things in the open, so it's also for myself as I do want to understand how to view things, people and ethics (and also efficiency) as perfectly as possible. I wouldn't wanna try to convince people of anything if I'm not sure that it's correct. Aaanyways,- great video. Thank you! I LOVE how you think.
INTJ: So interesting, thanks for your perspective! What you say also seems congruent with Michael Pierce's theory that NFJs are individualists (Ni/Se) reaching out into society (Fe/Ti)
In highschool, I am just cool with everyone. I am fat but no one ever teased me... I don't wait for anyone when I go eat or go to the comfort room, I am not part of a click but I know their secrets because most of them confide in me. One time I was just listening to my walkman like normal and my classmate just stood next to me and said that I am so cool and stays at a distance from everyone. Also he said I smell good. haha!
I'm an INFJ (but I doubt about my type sometimes), and I really recognize myself in what you are saying here. I'm also very independent, I love my being alone, I love living alone. And I also feel uncomfortable when I have to hug or kiss people. I feel a distance when I have to hug people. And people also say don't know what I'm really thinking or feeling. They call me mysterious.
It took 33 years to grow into myself and learn to listen to me. There were a lot of rigid older men who did not appreciate when I’d exert who I am. It would bring really strong and dislikable emotions from them. It would always push me into submission and remaining quiet but I was miserable. Now I speak out more but not without consequences. Also, when people don’t see our Fi values, especially the “wrong” friends for us, they project what they think our values are or should be. Then you spend time having to defend yourself.
This is great insight into INTJ. I just think they don't know what Fe is or what it means. I don't know the answer for this except just understand and respect this about them. Fe is not about being responsible for others.
so independent at a young age that my parents were worried about me staying in my room for 6 months straight grinding in business. Being FOCUS AND BEING ALONE IS FOR ACHIEVER, in my opinion.
I like this embracing your personality type's strengths life strategy. It just makes so much more sense to me than what Jung had envisioned with self actualization. I love the guy for what he created, even outside of this personality test but I think that was one of his errors personally speaking.
Ha I've literally said before that the world would be a better place if every single person just minded their own business...don't hurt other people but don't worry about how they live their lives either. I've heard that INTJs tend to be libertarians more so than other types.
As an ISFP, I find the total lack of Fe so relaxing. When Calypso’s in these videos, she does have some Fe and emotional expression, and it’s nice to have a little break from it. I don’t really like my nemesis function but I naturally react to emotional expression in an Fe ways. No wonder ISFPs and INTJs are so compatible. Having each other’s blindspot function as your nemesis function is great.
Ok.. The only part I didn't get was the "our external functions are only looking at what is objective and our personalized functions are internal". Doesn't this happens with every single type? This is not specific to xNTJs. So.... you don't need to feel like that is an experience specific to you. All introverted fuctions are personalized and internal and need to be explained to be understood by others. I think everyone feels that. Regardless of fitting Michael Pierce's category of Democatric or Aristocratic. Even ESFJs feel that.
I totally agree with the girls screaming and hugging. Or the girl tribes that run everywhere together... always wondered How that worked but didn’t mind not having it. The look was longing but the feeling was okay not exactly having that.
I've thought so many times: I have to find everything out for myself. Someone could tell me that making two servings and having the other for lunch the next day is the BEST way, but I will go years doing it my way before I try it their way and find out for myself that fuck, they were right. This seems like a waste of time, as if we listened from the get-go we'd eliminate a lot of seemingly pointless experimenting. But this quality is useful for situations where innovation is called for. We take nothing for granted, especially "you can't" limits. We will leap across any canyon, no matter how many people have fallen in before. This is a boon for society, and a lot of us don't get the proper props for it.
benny hinn Cause they're unique and have their own way of thinking. I apologize to any non INTJ's who are reading this, were all special in our own ways. But us INTJ's value this most. And I'm sure your all unique, but INTJ's take it to a whole new level. :)
"All of the world's problems could be solved if everyone minded their own business" Amy I have thought this to myself SO MANY TIMES!!! Like it's so SIMPLE
Many. Far from all.
This is why beta quadra people fight so damn much
That might make sense in a fantasy land where everyone has all of the resources they need and no one needs to compete for anything.
Living alone IS the most joyous experience. I never get tired of it.
V. Hansen amen
INTJ here. I related to the part where you spoke about women hugging each other and being excited to see each other. All the women at my job hug each other as a form of greeting. They have no trouble initiating the hug or saying they are happy to see one another, this doesn’t come naturally to me, so being hugged so much through out the day was really awkward at first. My close friends know I am not too comfortable with physical touch, so they know my boundaries, at my job I am not vocal because I am already really reserved and I know I come off as stuck up. I have also been accused of it many times over the years. It’s great to hear women I can actually relate to !
heheh "INTJ's, let us unite in our individualism!" :]
I couldn't agree more about living alone! I love living alone so much! I recently went back to school to peruse another degree plan, I had to give up my job for school hours, which caused me to have to share a place to save money and honestly, the lack of privacy has been depressing. I'm not a shy INTJ either, I just loving being in my own place with my own plans and stuff.
Also, at all of the jobs I've held in the past, there has always been one or two people at each job that have really "latched on" to me and tried really hard to be my friend. Half of those people would eventually tell me that at first, they thought I was really stuck up, but once they got to know me they found that wasn't the case.
Really good video, always feels great to hear other INTJ's talking about themselves. I don't know any INTJ's personally, I usually stay true to my personality, but there are those moments when I feel like I might be the only one like this. So it's great to hear other people share similar traits. I think the important thing to remember is that, when you see introverted people interact, remember that's not the norm, that's who they are and you are who you are. To conform to other personalities is not being yourself, it's wasting your life and robbing yourself of happiness. Have a great day. :D
I am a politically active INTJ. I think that's where the J comes in. We're solvers/fixers when we see a problem. We are not sitting back perceiving and letting things just be. We take action.
When the question of autonomy was brought up, I couldn't agree more. No one should force their views or values on anyone else, this is a form of oppression, and I am a fighter for autonomy. I agree with the statement "everybody mind your own business" and "each individual [should] have the same amount of potential to succeed in their life, but according to their own way of living." You should really read Karl Marx, he was also an INTJ.
There have been many famous political INTJs. Susan B. Anthony, Vladimir Lenin, J.F.K., Hillary Clinton, Ayn Rand, etc.
I can't tell you how comforting it is to hear that you people have the same themes in your lives. The longing for that bubbly connection where there's spontaneous overflow of feeling. The disconnect. I've been called aloof, intimidating, mysterious! By so many people. It's also so nice to be told that I don't have to be outspoken. I have felt really guilty about not loudspeakering about politics as my friends do. I've accused myself of being uncommitted or even lily-livered. But it's true - I find it unnecessary to tell people what I think about a lot of stuff. I'm always like: "why do people use all this air talking about what they think?". I'm not sure what I'd rather talk about. Well, I love just pure joking. Pure silliness. That serves a purpose as it's challenging me creatively and entertaining me. Or serious ideas talk. I think that's my native home - serious ideas talk.
Soooooo nice to see 2 spot on INTJs with awareness of the ego Self, and more, conversing like this. Mooore! :)
Yeah I grew up with people telling me that they thought I was stuck up. Now that I'm older, men often tell me that I'm hard to read.
Oh wow, that's so true about how we sort of don't want to interact with people because of how our external functions are perceptive rather than relative. Interesting! And also that point about how we don't bond with others very easily! That is so true! I never really thought about that too much but it's true! I know I WANT to bond with people but it has to be right and there are just so many ways that I can foresee most relationships won't turn out well so I don't even go there. I want to bond with people with whom I can relate and carry on intellectual, meaningful conversations and shared values and goals. It's hard to find that. But I don't settle for less than that.
It's so true too that I've always been fascinated by watching Fe. It's so foreign to me while also pervasive in society. I think that's why of all the types with Fe, I am drawn to the INFJs and ENFJs. They've got a combination of Fe and Ni that is so intriguing. My other favorite type is the INFP. I tend to be very drawn to them and they to me. All great points ladies! Thank you for sharing your perspectives in these videos!
I've been watching your channel's videos lately and have found it very insightful for better understanding Fi. This video was especially insightful.
One thing that stuck out to me (the rest of the video was great, but this is just an example) was the notion that you associated Fe with maturity when you were younger, but have since come more into your own, and now see Fe as something you don't necessarily need like you thought; you rebel against that childhood pressure, almost like rebelling against an unhelpful Freudian superego. I put things that way because I think it actually links into the Socionics notion of the "vulnerable" function or "point of least resistance", which is the function for a given type that represents what they feel society expects them to do, but they don't like doing it and really struggle to do it and feel continually inadequate doing it.
See, for me the "vulnerable" function is Te, and that was definitely (and still is to some degree) my unhelpful superego: the feeling that someday I've got to handle things like taxes, or getting a job, or supporting a family financially...but more than that, just the feeling that I'm supposed to optimize my performance, or set clear quantifiable goals, or discipline myself in the way that self-help books talk about, and "when am I going to start doing that?" Taking charge of my life in that way, I guess. My mind doesn't know how to think in terms of accomplishing goals -- it wants to think in terms of eternal principles that I just follow eternally (Ti, I think).
Oh, also, the notion of protests. I don't know if you were both in agreement that protests have a lot to do with Fi, but that would seem to align with my own experience, because in true Jeffersonian fashion (believing that IDRlabs is right in typing him INFJ) I just cannot see how in-the-moment argument could solve anything, much less protesting...but I know people (I'm thinking specifically of an ENFP friend) who are quite passionate about it, and to be honest, it makes me cringe, and I really do think that it comes down to a type difference. The Fe friends I have don't think in terms of protests or even rallies. They prefer things be calmer and smoother -- because they are actually much more democratic in their judgement. They want an even playing field, but the idea of a protest is more Fi because it is an expression of feelings from the people's perspective right now.
And ANOTHER thing -- you guys get my thoughts going -- that one humorous quip, "Fi will save the world" is so wonderfully characteristic of MBTI in general -- that's how people feel about their different functions, and they're all right...to a point. I noticed you mentioning how Fe types may think differently about the matter, I assure you, the one's I know *do*. Vehemently, I'm afraid...
Anyway, great stuff! I really appreciate the hard work you guys have put in!
(and obviously I'm flattered you've mentioned me in your videos :) )
Just realized the way I said, "in Socionics, it's called the 'vulnerable' function'" sounded rather condescending, especially because I just saw your own video about "blindspot" functions show up in the feed next to my comment. So why on earth was I trying to educate you on Socionics. Well I'll tell you why: because I naturally assume as an Fe politeness that people I haven't talked with don't know about MBTI so I just automatically make sure we're on the same page. Instead of maybe checking beforehand to see if they know. Anyway. Maybe that's a stretch.
I will be watching that video presently. Anyway, sorry about that, though I'm guessing you probably didn't notice and didn't care, but gosh dang it I did. So there. :P
Hi Michael, what do you think of my typing for you as ILI?
INTJ: Hi Michael, Thanks so much for your response! Calypso and I have been watching your channel for quite a while, so it's great to finally say hi :)
Great point about polr Fe! Our inability to or sometimes just indifference on using Fe when appropriate probably also contributes quite a bit to the independent/aloof air INTJs can give off sometimes.
What you say about protests is interesting! I think in this video I said that NFJs may be more prone to it, but perhaps it's just a difference in approach. What I have noticed is that Fe users tend to be more vocal about supporting social causes (not necessarily protests) and rallying others to assist or get on board in a way that's generally uplifting and inclusive. But maybe Fi users are more passionate about doing what they consider to be right for themselves and don't mind ruffling some feathers along the way if they think it's for the best - I could even put myself in that camp occasionally :)
Thank you for your videos - you make make really excellent content!
MICHAEL !! WE LOVE YOU !
-ENTJ
Michael Pierce Your Videos have been very helpful in regards to the differentiation between axis and perception functions. Thank you very much for the beautiful "ambiance" that you so carefully craft for your Videos.
I heard (If I'm not mistaken) that your father was Intp.
I recently (3 or for days ago) had a debate with other intp's against youtuber 999 GreenEyes. On his video "Convincing an Intp thats an Istp" The guy deleted the comments 3 times. I was wandering if you were interested in reading it. Im intrigued by your opinion (And Ni-Fe with polrTe when dissecting an argument) I cant decide if Marx was Infj or Intj (Im leaning to Infj)
Sorry if I made some Grammatical errors. English isn't my first language.
This is was great to watch ladies.
I love that you mention protests and principles since I don't thinks it's mentioned so much in relation to INTJs. I'm in a few social justice orgs myself and even though I'm not the loudest member, I help through proposing and editing strategies for the maximum impact.
'For maximum impact' is the INTJ's catch phrase
Greetings and heartfelt appreciation from an INTJ male.
When you related your feelings of longing for emotional connection around an anecdote beginning at 15:00, I felt an attack of relatability that touched me so deeply it made tears well up. Thank you so much for sharing. I think we INTJs really need each other to relate to on things like that - I feel that very few people understand us besides us to a point that is nearly enough to make us feel fulfilled.
My mom always complains that I stay at the bedroom all the time and seldom watch TV with her kind of thing. I really love being alone. My mom is an extrovert and really caring about people. Therefore, to prove that I am totally mentally healthy, Sometimes I will have conversations with her about what I am doing and what I thinking about. And then she is really happy.
It is very rare for me (INTJ) to express much emotion to others besides my children and a small few others. Also, its not thinking "we" are better than. Its more like I don't want bothered by the drama/empty energy/thought sucking nonsense out in the world. Sure I can think on lots of topics. But to actually have to be a part of it all is draining.
Great freaking panel. Relate to this 100%.
As an INTJ female I find it much easier to relate to - and bond with (in as much as I am capable of bonding) - men, rather than with women. Is this true for other female INTJs? I resonated with what you said about watching female bonds and friendships and feeling like I must be missing out on something, but not knowing how to have that and definitely not feeling like I would be able to handle it. The few female friendships I do have, I'm not able to really connect with them because we are so vastly different...and some, like my ESFJ friend can be downright suffocating even if I know it's not intentional. I feel like stereotypically, most (or at least a lot more) men are less emotionally focused/clingy, and more focused on practical capabilities which I can relate to. I find it easier to be myself around men rather than women because they are more open to individuality and accepting my different interests. Whereas most women have more traditional views about how women "should be" and what women should be interested in and find it difficult to accept and relate to me.
Not at all. I`ve come across some incredibly smart women whom are a lot more "developed" than most males I meet. As long as they are intellectually interesting and emotionally "healthy" I enjoy friendships of different types.
INTJ female here. Can't relate honestly. As poorly as I relate to women it's near impossible to interact with men because even though they are stereotypically thought of as more "rational and logical " than females, it has been nigh impossible to find one that will consider me their peer in whatever shared interest we have, not try to patronize or control me, or maintain a platonic friendship without going and making things weird. Come to think of it, I've gotten more flack from men for not being a more typical female than other women. Usually women have been more supportive and accepting of me than guys. It baffles even myself, but I can ONLY befriend other women, and agree with the above comment (Nea).
@S: This is because you are not INTj... plain reason!
@@svetiilija4666 I am an INTJ. The gender of people I CHOOSE to befriend doesn't determine that、you don't determine that.
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greets, Milan
Late to the party but this was an amazing video!
This was very interesting. Totally feel the Fe problems. I was raised around it so much but I was also aware of how pointless it seems. It truly seems to revolve around your experiences with the world when you were young.
My mom is an ESFP, and my dad is ISFJ so I always felt the pressure of Fe. My dad hated how bad I was at responding to social norms. *Teacher that doesn't talk to me waves* "Why me?"
The cognitive functions set root once you reach the age of self(somewhere around 4-7), which was when I was being raised by my dad. The thing I really appreciate from him is he never sheltered me from the world. He told me his life stories and basically everything he ever did wrong(he was a hardcore partier). I believe the types are formed based off their parents. They say that is who we observe most when we grow up. The introversion kinda just snapped at a certain age and all of a sudden I didn't feel comfortable speaking to everyone. I got my dad's awareness for self identity, introversion, but ultimately I created myself through thinking and wondering about things to myself, NTJ. I always thought my mom was an INTJ as well, but I think that was just her ego showing humility around me.
“fI is the way to world peace” hahha love it!
Two of my daughters are Esfj and Isfj. The Isfj came to visit me one weekend and she literally talked for 10 hours straight after I picked her up. I was completely exhausted after she left.
Great discussion🖤
"Everyone just mind your own business"
I, as an ENFJ completely agree with this. I just personally can't help but to be drawn to understanding people, especially when I disagree with them- and then proving who's right and who's wrong and why.
Even though not everyone wants to hear it and it can even make people hate you, I still think it's important that SOMEONE talks about it because there are just too many people out there who just wouldn't have thought about it otherwise. (btw as I was typing, you just kinda just said exactly what I was saying, which is kinda hilarious.)
-Also, I really do this for my own benefit too, I kinda need to process alot of things in the open, so it's also for myself as I do want to understand how to view things, people and ethics (and also efficiency) as perfectly as possible. I wouldn't wanna try to convince people of anything if I'm not sure that it's correct.
Aaanyways,- great video. Thank you! I LOVE how you think.
INTJ: So interesting, thanks for your perspective! What you say also seems congruent with Michael Pierce's theory that NFJs are individualists (Ni/Se) reaching out into society (Fe/Ti)
6:58: Amy: "I totally agree with you." *shakes head as if disagreeing*
In highschool, I am just cool with everyone. I am fat but no one ever teased me... I don't wait for anyone when I go eat or go to the comfort room, I am not part of a click but I know their secrets because most of them confide in me. One time I was just listening to my walkman like normal and my classmate just stood next to me and said that I am so cool and stays at a distance from everyone. Also he said I smell good. haha!
I can live with another INTJ and sharing goals with them is tremendously fun.
I'm an INFJ (but I doubt about my type sometimes), and I really recognize myself in what you are saying here. I'm also very independent, I love my being alone, I love living alone. And I also feel uncomfortable when I have to hug or kiss people. I feel a distance when I have to hug people. And people also say don't know what I'm really thinking or feeling. They call me mysterious.
It took 33 years to grow into myself and learn to listen to me. There were a lot of rigid older men who did not appreciate when I’d exert who I am. It would bring really strong and dislikable emotions from them. It would always push me into submission and remaining quiet but I was miserable. Now I speak out more but not without consequences.
Also, when people don’t see our Fi values, especially the “wrong” friends for us, they project what they think our values are or should be. Then you spend time having to defend yourself.
Ahhh, the feeling of finally finding people who just get you!
This is great insight into INTJ. I just think they don't know what Fe is or what it means. I don't know the answer for this except just understand and respect this about them. Fe is not about being responsible for others.
so independent at a young age that my parents were worried about me staying in my room for 6 months straight grinding in business. Being FOCUS AND BEING ALONE IS FOR ACHIEVER, in my opinion.
Jason Le that's great
I like this embracing your personality type's strengths life strategy. It just makes so much more sense to me than what Jung had envisioned with self actualization. I love the guy for what he created, even outside of this personality test but I think that was one of his errors personally speaking.
Ha I've literally said before that the world would be a better place if every single person just minded their own business...don't hurt other people but don't worry about how they live their lives either. I've heard that INTJs tend to be libertarians more so than other types.
All the good libertarians have gone to the far right
As an ISFP, I find the total lack of Fe so relaxing. When Calypso’s in these videos, she does have some Fe and emotional expression, and it’s nice to have a little break from it. I don’t really like my nemesis function but I naturally react to emotional expression in an Fe ways. No wonder ISFPs and INTJs are so compatible. Having each other’s blindspot function as your nemesis function is great.
Ok.. The only part I didn't get was the "our external functions are only looking at what is objective and our personalized functions are internal". Doesn't this happens with every single type? This is not specific to xNTJs. So.... you don't need to feel like that is an experience specific to you. All introverted fuctions are personalized and internal and need to be explained to be understood by others. I think everyone feels that. Regardless of fitting Michael Pierce's category of Democatric or Aristocratic. Even ESFJs feel that.
I totally agree with the girls screaming and hugging. Or the girl tribes that run everywhere together... always wondered How that worked but didn’t mind not having it. The look was longing but the feeling was okay not exactly having that.
The point where she minsioned that she hardly feels bounded to others hits so bad
I'm hooked on the intro music! Can I ask where you found it?
I've thought so many times: I have to find everything out for myself. Someone could tell me that making two servings and having the other for lunch the next day is the BEST way, but I will go years doing it my way before I try it their way and find out for myself that fuck, they were right. This seems like a waste of time, as if we listened from the get-go we'd eliminate a lot of seemingly pointless experimenting. But this quality is useful for situations where innovation is called for. We take nothing for granted, especially "you can't" limits. We will leap across any canyon, no matter how many people have fallen in before. This is a boon for society, and a lot of us don't get the proper props for it.
Does anyone else hear Darth Vader in the background?
Darth Vader breathing offscreen is a bit distracting.
What is Amy's account or channel ?
Intj or infj...im so confused,iner strugle hold me as hostage whole night...
dam why are intjs women so hot!
benny hinn Cause they're unique and have their own way of thinking. I apologize to any non INTJ's who are reading this, were all special in our own ways. But us INTJ's value this most. And I'm sure your all unique, but INTJ's take it to a whole new level. :)
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Wouldn't it be logical, to pay for that?!
Your lack of grammar isn't going to get you very far with INTJ women.
I was looking for this comment. That girl is beautiful.😄
Ayn Rand aprove this
intj seems intense...
Fe is claws
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When I look at her carefully, she _does_ look like she thinks she’s above everyone else though.
Shadow agreed
Yeeet
Queen Beast this is because you need to grow up
Or she just looks composed
Stop assuming
Depressing