Tongues is a "foreign language". it is NOT some made up gibberish that many "speak" in today's churches. This fact is clearly established in Genesis 10 - 11. If and unknown tongue (foreign a language) is spoken in the assembly ... and interpreter is REQUIRED!
Speaking in tongues is just being able to speak with other languages the words of Yah, be it by the Holy Spirit, or by the ability to learn other languages. Languages/Tongues such as Greek, English, Hebrew, German, Spanish, Mandarin ect. The word Tongue is just another word for language in this application. Scriptural evidence of the word Tongue being a actual language. The Syrian Tongue Ezr 4:7 And in the days of Artaxerxes wrote Bishlam, Mithredath, Tabeel, and the rest of their companions, unto Artaxerxes king of Persia; and the writing of the letter was written in the Syrian tongue, and interpreted in the Syrian tongue. The Chaldean Tongue Dan 1:4 Children in whom was no blemish, but well favoured, and skilful in all wisdom, and cunning in knowledge, and understanding science, and such as had ability in them to stand in the king's palace, and whom they might teach the learning and the tongue of the Chaldeans. The Hebrew Tongue Joh 5:2 Now there is at Jerusalem by the sheep market a pool, which is called in the Hebrew tongue Bethesda, having five porches. Act 21:40 And when he had given him licence, Paul stood on the stairs, and beckoned with the hand unto the people. And when there was made a great silence, he spake unto them in the Hebrew tongue, saying, The Hebrew and Greek Tongues Rev 9:11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon. Again Tongues is just the ability to speak with other languages be it by the Ruach Ha Qodesh/Holy Spirit, or learned. The biblical example of some people speaking in tongues is in Act Chapter 2, where the apostles had gather together for the feast of Pentecost. And on that day the Holy Spirit came in to interpret the words of the apostles to all the people that had gathered to also keep the feast of Pentecost that were from other countries. The miraculous thing to note is that the apostles were speaking Hebrew, but the people that spoke other tongues heard the Apostles words in their own language where they were from. Then the scriptures says the names of the countries where some of the attendees were from, and how the people listing were confounded/surprised. Act 2:5 And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. Act 2:6 Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language. And those attending said...Act 2:8 And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? Where were theses people from that were listening to the Apostles? They where from...Act 2:9 Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia, Act 2:10 Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes, Act 2:11 Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God. The people from other countries said....we do hear them SPEAK IN OUR TONGUE the wonderful works of ELOHIM SPEAK IN OUR TONGUE The Apostles were NOT speaking some unintelligible babel/Unknown tongue. So you can see in Acts 2: 8 thru 11 the names of the Tongues the people heard the Apostles speaking in. And besides, The Passage In 1 Corinthians 14, where most try to get there speaking in tongues/babel doctrine from, shows it is better to be able to prophesy than to speak with tongues, and that speaking in tongues is a sign not to them that believe but to them that believe not, and that prophesying is not for those that believe not, but it is for them that believe. 1Co 14:22 Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe. Even those that so-call speak in tongues do not do it as the scriptures show it should be done, which says that those who speak in tongues are only suppose to do it if they have an interpreter. How many times have you seen anyone that speaks in so-called tongues having an interpret? THE INSTRUCTIONS OF SPEAKING IN TONGUES 1Co 14:13 Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret. 1Co 14:27 If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. How many that speak in so-called tongues do it by two or three people? How many that speak in so-called tongues has one of the two or three interpret? Then the scriptures says this... 1Co 14:28 But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God. IF THERE BE NO INTERPRETER......LET HIM KEEP SILENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How many obey that rule? The scriptures goes on to show...1Co 14:23 If therefore the whole church be come together into one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those that are unlearned, or unbelievers, will they not say that ye are mad? 1Co 14:24 But if all prophesy, and there come in one that believeth not, or one unlearned, he is convinced of all, he is judged of all: Paul Said... 1Co 14:18 I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all: 1Co 14:19 Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue. Paul said.. He would rather speak five WORDS with his understanding than 10,000 words in a unknown tongue. This why Paul said that...1Co 14:4 He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church. Edifying the Church is what most important. Not speaking tongues. Peace in the name of Yahusha/Jesus
If Isaiah 28:11 "For with stammering lips and another tongue He will speak to this people, " is fulfilled throughout the ministry of Christ... then... All the Continuists and Cessationists are all in big trouble.
Why is it that no church prior to the 19th CE ever held this strange idea of tongues meaning something beyond known human languages? A non-human or unknown language can rightfully be referred to as gibberish, as no one, save for those with the supposed “gift” of interpretation, can discern its meaning. Question is, will 2 supposed interpreters assessing strange “tongues”, at different times and without consulting each other, arrive at the same meaning? Depending on a considerable number of trials that result in success, this exclusive Pentecostal phenomenon may prove its legitimacy. If not, then it would stand condemned as a false teaching through a deliberate misuse and abuse of scripture, whilst its practitioners be held as false prophets (or spiritual pretenders), in strong need of repentance, ultimately spoiling the spiritual integrity of the church itself.
But if Paul in 1 Corinthians 14 says when one speaks in tongues he does not speak to men, he speaks mysteries unto God therefore NO MAN UNDERSTANDS, he cannot possibly be referring to a known human language. It's called logic right?
@@kopanotempleton8414 “tongue” has always been understood as human language whether it be be known or unknown to the hearer. And if the hearer cannot discern the tongue, whatever is being said would obviously be a mystery or secret. It doesn’t mean that the “tongue” is some otherworldly language that no human would be able to understand.
@@HypostaticU I don't care, prove to me contextually from the text in 1 Corinthians 14 that when Paul says the tongue is unto God, no man understands it and it's a mystery that that's not what it means. Secondly in the previous chapter verse speaker of tongues of men and of ANGELS, so by your logic the tongues of angels here have to be human languages right?
Michael Brown misses the point (intentionally?), gibberish clearly refers to non-existing languages, not strange sounding existing languages. Completely different.
@@raphaelfeneje486 My point was addressing Dr Brown's context for the use of the word gibberish, not the scriptures. Clearly. But yes, Paul is referring to a real language, a human language, in 1 Cor. 14, that can be understood by the speaker. This is the orthodox Christian position. Gibberish, unintelligible mutterings is a recent phenomenon (100-150 years old) with extremely dubious roots and is not supported by the scriptures.
Our English word " tongues", in the original Greek that it was written in, is singular not plural and means, " another language" and " a language". So for instance in Acts ch.2 When the believers recieved the Holy Spirit it actually reads, "..and they began to speak in another language.." and "..they began to speak in a language". Speaking in this language is speaking in one spiritual language. Of course it would sound like " gibberish" to those who don't understand what it is because it doesn't follow the same linguistics as the world's native languages do. Paul calls it " the unknown tongue" and says in 1Cor.14:2 that it is a language between man and God that " know man understands". He also says in 1Cor.14:14, " When I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays but my understanding is unfruitful". In other words he is saying that when he prays in this language that he doesn't understand what he is saying.
@@robertnieten7259 incorrect. Speaking in a "spiritual language" is imported and nowhere in the text. "Unknown' in verse two isnt in the original text, and was added by authors of the kjv to counter the Catholic church using Latin as a holy language at that time. Nothing to do with a mystical language. "My understanding is unfruitful", what is the fruit? Paul clearly states over the next few verses - It is other being able to say Amen and be built up. The speakers understanding being fruitful is others gleaning from his understanding, its nothing to do with the speaker himself not knowing what he's saying. This is clear. It is also consistent with the rest of the book regarding the point of the gifts and building up the body.
@@Bornstella Thanks for your reply. The original Greek translation of the new testament takes precedent over any translation. The Word " tongues" in that language is singular meaning that anytime the word is mentioned whether it be in Acts or 1Corinthians it's speaking of one language whether it's an individual believer or a group of believers speaking it. Speaking in this language, initially is the only evidence given in scripture of what occurs immediately upon recieving the Holy Spirit, (Acts ch. 2,10, and 19) and afterward the believers prayer language. Paul refers to it as the spirit praying in 1Co.14:2.14 This ability is only mentioned as the result of a believer recieving the Holy Spirit. The Word " unknown" was added to the scripture to add more clarity to what the translators determined was not a language being specifically identified by context. When Paul mentions praying in this tongue he is saying that he doesn't understand it thus it is more beneficial to others if it is translated by a believer with the gift of interpretation. Pauls' whole conversation in 1Cor. ch.12 and 14 doesn't discount an individual prayer language given by the Holy Spirit but continually explains correctly that we should always be more concerned in acquiring spiritual gifts that benefit everyone in the church gathering not just ourselves. Paul says, "He who speaks in an ( unknown) tongue edifies himself" ( 1Cor. 14:4). He also says concerning spiritual gifts the the Holy Spirit gives them to individual believers to " profit withal" or everyone. So the personal prayer language doesn't actually qualify as one of the gifts of the Holy Spirit because it only edifies the individual believer.
@@robertnieten7259 its singular because one can speak only in a single tongue at a time, not because it refers to one language. This is how it's translated universally. If i said "i speak in a tongue" it doesnt mean i use only one language. Now, praying in the spirit or operating in the spirit as laid out by Paul is largely an intellectual excercise. See ch. 12:3, 8, 14:10, and other places throughout the NT such as Eph. 6:18,19. Praying in the spirit is understood to mean praying in accordance with God's revealed will, and being empowered to do so (1 cor. 12:3). It is not a mystical experiential thing. A heavenly prayer language is imported to the text, and is only roughly 150-200 years old in church doctrine.
Well if it’s babbling gibberish and not a human languages like we see during pentacost in acts 2, it’s a fake gift.
@TruthMatters-ew3pc yes, human languages.
Tongues is a "foreign language". it is NOT some made up gibberish that many "speak" in today's churches. This fact is clearly established in Genesis 10 - 11. If and unknown tongue (foreign a language) is spoken in the assembly ... and interpreter is REQUIRED!
Foreign languages are always spoken in church services and knowing it's Interpretation isn't a gift
Facts. Acts 2 clearly stated it’s humans languages.
Dr. Brown is 100% correct!! ❤️🙏🏻. The gift of tongues is a supernatural language given by the Holy Spirit and is for today. ❤️🙏🏻
No one can prove that this is the heavenly tongues mentioned in scripture
Why? Because you say so?
You're making an argument from silence in fact one that can be used forcefully against you.
@@kopanotempleton8414 you still can't prove it
@@davesawe5346 Can you please exegete 1 Corinthians 14:2 for us, since we need to prove the plain reading of the text.
Speaking in tongues is just being able to speak with other languages the words of Yah, be it by the Holy Spirit, or by the ability to learn other languages. Languages/Tongues such as Greek, English, Hebrew, German, Spanish, Mandarin ect. The word Tongue is just another word for language in this application.
Scriptural evidence of the word Tongue being a actual language.
The Syrian Tongue
Ezr 4:7 And in the days of Artaxerxes wrote Bishlam, Mithredath, Tabeel, and the rest of their companions, unto Artaxerxes king of Persia; and the writing of the letter was written in the Syrian tongue, and interpreted in the Syrian tongue.
The Chaldean Tongue
Dan 1:4 Children in whom was no blemish, but well favoured, and skilful in all wisdom, and cunning in knowledge, and understanding science, and such as had ability in them to stand in the king's palace, and whom they might teach the learning and the tongue of the Chaldeans.
The Hebrew Tongue
Joh 5:2 Now there is at Jerusalem by the sheep market a pool, which is called in the Hebrew tongue Bethesda, having five porches.
Act 21:40 And when he had given him licence, Paul stood on the stairs, and beckoned with the hand unto the people. And when there was made a great silence, he spake unto them in the Hebrew tongue, saying,
The Hebrew and Greek Tongues
Rev 9:11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.
Again Tongues is just the ability to speak with other languages be it by the Ruach Ha Qodesh/Holy Spirit, or learned.
The biblical example of some people speaking in tongues is in Act Chapter 2, where the apostles had gather together for the feast of Pentecost. And on that day the Holy Spirit came in to interpret the words of the apostles to all the people that had gathered to also keep the feast of Pentecost that were from other countries.
The miraculous thing to note is that the apostles were speaking Hebrew, but the people that spoke other tongues heard the Apostles words in their own language where they were from.
Then the scriptures says the names of the countries where some of the attendees were from, and how the people listing were confounded/surprised. Act 2:5 And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.
Act 2:6 Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.
And those attending said...Act 2:8 And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?
Where were theses people from that were listening to the Apostles? They where from...Act 2:9 Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia,
Act 2:10 Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes,
Act 2:11 Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.
The people from other countries said....we do hear them SPEAK IN OUR TONGUE the wonderful works of ELOHIM
SPEAK IN OUR TONGUE
The Apostles were NOT speaking some unintelligible babel/Unknown tongue.
So you can see in Acts 2: 8 thru 11 the names of the Tongues the people heard the Apostles speaking in.
And besides, The Passage In 1 Corinthians 14, where most try to get there speaking in tongues/babel doctrine from, shows it is better to be able to prophesy than to speak with tongues, and that speaking in tongues is a sign not to them that believe but to them that believe not, and that prophesying is not for those that believe not, but it is for them that believe.
1Co 14:22 Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe.
Even those that so-call speak in tongues do not do it as the scriptures show it should be done, which says that those who speak in tongues are only suppose to do it if they have an interpreter. How many times have you seen anyone that speaks in so-called tongues having an interpret?
THE INSTRUCTIONS OF SPEAKING IN TONGUES
1Co 14:13 Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret.
1Co 14:27 If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret.
How many that speak in so-called tongues do it by two or three people?
How many that speak in so-called tongues has one of the two or three interpret?
Then the scriptures says this... 1Co 14:28 But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God.
IF THERE BE NO INTERPRETER......LET HIM KEEP SILENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How many obey that rule?
The scriptures goes on to show...1Co 14:23 If therefore the whole church be come together into one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those that are unlearned, or unbelievers, will they not say that ye are mad?
1Co 14:24 But if all prophesy, and there come in one that believeth not, or one unlearned, he is convinced of all, he is judged of all:
Paul Said...
1Co 14:18 I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all:
1Co 14:19 Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue.
Paul said.. He would rather speak five WORDS with his understanding than 10,000 words in a unknown tongue.
This why Paul said that...1Co 14:4 He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.
Edifying the Church is what most important. Not speaking tongues.
Peace in the name of Yahusha/Jesus
If Isaiah 28:11 "For with stammering lips and another tongue He will speak to this people, " is fulfilled throughout the ministry of Christ... then... All the Continuists and Cessationists are all in big trouble.
Why is it that no church prior to the 19th CE ever held this strange idea of tongues meaning something beyond known human languages? A non-human or unknown language can rightfully be referred to as gibberish, as no one, save for those with the supposed “gift” of interpretation, can discern its meaning. Question is, will 2 supposed interpreters assessing strange “tongues”, at different times and without consulting each other, arrive at the same meaning? Depending on a considerable number of trials that result in success, this exclusive Pentecostal phenomenon may prove its legitimacy. If not, then it would stand condemned as a false teaching through a deliberate misuse and abuse of scripture, whilst its practitioners be held as false prophets (or spiritual pretenders), in strong need of repentance, ultimately spoiling the spiritual integrity of the church itself.
But if Paul in 1 Corinthians 14 says when one speaks in tongues he does not speak to men, he speaks mysteries unto God therefore NO MAN UNDERSTANDS, he cannot possibly be referring to a known human language. It's called logic right?
@@kopanotempleton8414 “tongue” has always been understood as human language whether it be be known or unknown to the hearer. And if the hearer cannot discern the tongue, whatever is being said would obviously be a mystery or secret. It doesn’t mean that the “tongue” is some otherworldly language that no human would be able to understand.
@@HypostaticU I don't care, prove to me contextually from the text in 1 Corinthians 14 that when Paul says the tongue is unto God, no man understands it and it's a mystery that that's not what it means.
Secondly in the previous chapter verse speaker of tongues of men and of ANGELS, so by your logic the tongues of angels here have to be human languages right?
Michael Brown misses the point (intentionally?), gibberish clearly refers to non-existing languages, not strange sounding existing languages. Completely different.
It's gibberish to you because you can't understand. The Bible says men can't understand. Unless you're saying you're God
@@raphaelfeneje486 you completely miss my point.
@@Bornstella No! I didn't. You think the language should be in existence and should be understood.
@@raphaelfeneje486 My point was addressing Dr Brown's context for the use of the word gibberish, not the scriptures. Clearly. But yes, Paul is referring to a real language, a human language, in 1 Cor. 14, that can be understood by the speaker. This is the orthodox Christian position. Gibberish, unintelligible mutterings is a recent phenomenon (100-150 years old) with extremely dubious roots and is not supported by the scriptures.
@Pills For Your Wokeness so is everything that cannot be understood of God?
God bless Dr. Brown who speaks truth 💯🔥🔥🔥
Michael brown is stubborn, defensive and unwilling to see the nonsensical syllables as unbiblical.
It's gibberish because it's gibberish
Cope
Our English word " tongues", in the original Greek that it was written in, is singular not plural and means, " another language" and " a language".
So for instance in Acts ch.2 When the believers recieved the Holy Spirit it actually reads, "..and they began to speak in another language.." and "..they began to speak in a language".
Speaking in this language is speaking in one spiritual language. Of course it would sound like " gibberish" to those who don't understand what it is because it doesn't follow the same linguistics as the world's native languages do.
Paul calls it " the unknown tongue" and says in 1Cor.14:2 that it is a language between man and God that " know man understands".
He also says in 1Cor.14:14, " When I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays but my understanding is unfruitful". In other words he is saying that when he prays in this language that he doesn't understand what he is saying.
@@robertnieten7259 incorrect. Speaking in a "spiritual language" is imported and nowhere in the text. "Unknown' in verse two isnt in the original text, and was added by authors of the kjv to counter the Catholic church using Latin as a holy language at that time. Nothing to do with a mystical language.
"My understanding is unfruitful", what is the fruit? Paul clearly states over the next few verses - It is other being able to say Amen and be built up. The speakers understanding being fruitful is others gleaning from his understanding, its nothing to do with the speaker himself not knowing what he's saying. This is clear. It is also consistent with the rest of the book regarding the point of the gifts and building up the body.
@@Bornstella Thanks for your reply. The original Greek translation of the new testament takes precedent over any translation.
The Word " tongues" in that language is singular meaning that anytime the word is mentioned whether it be in Acts or 1Corinthians it's speaking of one language whether it's an individual believer or a group of believers speaking it.
Speaking in this language, initially is the only evidence given in scripture of what occurs immediately upon recieving the Holy Spirit, (Acts ch. 2,10, and 19) and afterward the believers prayer language.
Paul refers to it as the spirit praying in 1Co.14:2.14
This ability is only mentioned as the result of a believer recieving the Holy Spirit.
The Word " unknown" was added to the scripture to add more clarity to what the translators determined was not a language being specifically identified by context.
When Paul mentions praying in this tongue he is saying that he doesn't understand it thus it is more beneficial to others if it is translated by a believer with the gift of interpretation.
Pauls' whole conversation in 1Cor. ch.12 and 14 doesn't discount an individual prayer language given by the Holy Spirit but continually explains correctly that we should always be more concerned in acquiring spiritual gifts that benefit everyone in the church gathering not just ourselves.
Paul says, "He who speaks in an ( unknown) tongue edifies himself" ( 1Cor. 14:4). He also says concerning spiritual gifts the the Holy Spirit gives them to individual believers to " profit withal" or everyone. So the personal prayer language doesn't actually qualify as one of the gifts of the Holy Spirit because it only edifies the individual believer.
@@robertnieten7259 its singular because one can speak only in a single tongue at a time, not because it refers to one language. This is how it's translated universally. If i said "i speak in a tongue" it doesnt mean i use only one language.
Now, praying in the spirit or operating in the spirit as laid out by Paul is largely an intellectual excercise. See ch. 12:3, 8, 14:10, and other places throughout the NT such as Eph. 6:18,19. Praying in the spirit is understood to mean praying in accordance with God's revealed will, and being empowered to do so (1 cor. 12:3). It is not a mystical experiential thing. A heavenly prayer language is imported to the text, and is only roughly 150-200 years old in church doctrine.
It’s 100% gibberish.