I’ve never been all that keen on Parmigiani watches…until the release of this Tonda PF line! These are just so elegant, minimalist and more modern looking than their predecessors. A great choice for a luxury understated daily wear. I’d like to see a future variation of this particular model without the date window (I’ve never really liked those on watches) with a central seconds hand or small seconds sub-dial and the option of the gorgeous blue dial seen on the Tonda PF chronograph. The only thing I don’t really like about this watch pertains again to the date complication…a watch in this price range should have an instant change date! It would be the icing on the cake, so to speak. Still, if I could afford it, I’d love to have one of these 😁👍
David, thanks for sharing! Guido is reading here, I know it since I had him on the phone this afternoon… he came back from Miami … his flight had three hours delay and he missed his connecting flight to Geneva … he was stuck in the airport for hours… it is a good remark and he is open for such input…
For me the appeal is the entirety of the manufacturing process under "one roof". Other than sourcing the brass blanks for the face all manufacturing including springs and screws is in house albeit separate and distinct buildings but still one parent company. Very impressive. Thank You for bringing this time piece and it’s story to our attention.
Beautiful watch, I love the details of the bezel and the various levels of details on the face. The most intriguing paet is the pure simplicity that adds to the beauty. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you Alexander for covering this piece and the brand. This watch is absolutely beautiful. So elegant, understated and effortless. The fluidity of the design elements draws you in as one aspect of the watch and bracelet joins seamlessly and perfectly. My only negative comment is I wish you had also showed us the chronograph and annual calendar. Hopefully that will be in 2022.
Thanks for your kind feedback! The watches mentioned will of course follow! This was “only” the start of a series of videos / our interest in the brand…
Ordered mine last week. I really felt in love after seeing it in real. It is so incredible and it wears super comfy. And it definitely doesn't scream at anybody. I'm really looking forward enjoying it. And I read a lot about PF and watched the interviews with Guido Terreni. Great values, great company. I am very interested in seeing your January vids. Just hit the Abo and the notification button 😉
I absolutely understand what you mean and feel… Bravo! Congratulations! Thanks for sharing our passion, for subscribing and hitting the bell… How long will you have to wait?
Very good idea! You will never regret that step. A PF on your wrist is the expression of style and connoisseurship… The videos will give you a deep insight … if you have any questions always let me know…
GOD BLESS YOU ALEXANDER. I AM VERY PROUD OF YOU AND VERY HAPPY FOR YOU. I HOPE ALL OF YOUR DREAMS COME TRUE AND I HOPE YOUR FAMILY HAS THE BEST AND HAPPIEST HOLIDAY SEASON OF YOUR ENTIRE LIFE. 🙏
Love this review ! I have an older PF Tonda 1950 in rose gold/charcoal dial and I love mine! Your review is making me research into the new PF sports watches ! 😀
I recall a very early video from you saying that PF were difficult to arrange reviews of their watches. Which lead me to investigate them and it was so hard to find any watch reviews of substance on RUclips. Sounds like the new CEO is a buddy and he wants to change that. I like PF and the fact they basically make the complete watch in house is cool. I’m looking forward to seeing more.
Your perception is correct! The former management’s made lots of errors! Guido Terreni will now change that and successfully lead Parmigiani in a bright future. If I wouldn’t know he can do that I wouldn’t write it 😉 We will accompany Parmigiani Fleurier now and give you maximum insights… I love to widen your horizon…
Thanks for the video. I've heard Parmigiani mentioned from time to time but never really looked into their watches. It will be interesting to see the future videos at the company.
Very tasteful and classic piece Alexander. A bit too dressy for my taste, but definately something to consider for those wanting to bridge the gap between dress and sport. I liked your details on the company and personnel also. You're right, it's not well known unfortunately. Looking forward to your future shows where you actually visit the manufacture. Thanks for sharing!
The videos following will give some detailed insights and explain Parmigiani also from the manufacturer’s side… plus we sho more watches of course… I want you guys to discover this interesting brand…
I really appreciate the details of ownership and manufacturing. The watch is stunning and I’d love to have it, especially since I already have a high regard for Parmigiani watches.
In our videos we will present you Parmigiani Fleurier in all details… Can’t wait to read your comments thereafter … If you have any questions in the meantime, please let me know…
Thank you for doing this Alexander! And I am very interested in getting the rose gold example of this one in the future! Too bad you didn’t showcase it here but appreciate the detailed hands-on! Also, surprising to hear that Breguet buys screws from Elwin. I knew about Patek doing that but never Breguet or SWATCH if we’re speaking truthfully! I have a question for you to deliver when you meet with Guido Terreni. Ask him when will we see the Parmigiani x Giorgio Armani collection. It was supposed to be announced last November but so far nothing.
Wow, this watch looks fantastic! I'm very imperest, just sad that it has no fold over clasp on the bracelt with an adjustment feature... and maybe a second hand. Looks a little "empty" maybe... However, thanks for showing, Alexander!
Very beautiful clean purist dial design. Personally though I do not like their bracelet. I just think at $20k price point you need something extra. Some has easy removable features, some has easy adjustment, some has unique materials, and etc..
Great video as usual. I can’t help but to think Guido Terreni brought som design elements over from Bulgari. The movement in particular looks similar to the Octo Finissimo Automatic movement.
This calibre was created many, many years before. Michel Parmigiani conceived the CHOPARD L.U.C 1.96 micro-rotor calibre that debuted in 1996 in a CHOPARD watch for the Scheufele Family… When Michel’s brand was created in 1996 this calibre also debuted as a Parmigiani derivate later … The Bulgari Octo Finissimo calibre has nothing to do here … the fact that both feature a micro-rotor is due to the thin construction … if you want a thin automatic calibre this is one way to do it … if someone “copied” then Bulgari and for sure not Parmigiani …
Will be my third PF in the collection (picking it up next week the steel version), next to my Tonda GT steel and Kalpa XL Hebdomadaire Anniversaire. Love where the brand is heading!
PF is one of the most under appreciated brands in the luxury watch making world, in my opinion. I can’t understand why? I really love the new design of the Tonda. One radical change I would consider if I were running the company. I would call it Michel Fleurier. That name sounds more appropriate for a French speaking swiss watch brand. That’s just my personal feeling.
@@WatchAdvisor Looking forward to it. I love their watches!! They are out of my price range. But, I can still appreciate them. As they say, maybe someday?
I replaced my H Moser Streamliner with the Tonda GT last December and have enjoyed everything about it. I can foresee adding another Parmigiani in the future.
@@WatchAdvisor I liked the Streamliner very much. The quality was top notch. The comfort was exceptional. The uniqueness separated it from the rest of the integrated competition. However, I was the first customer to receive it in the United States in August 2020, and I acquired it for $18k, a very good price in light of present demand (which I anticipated as I watch Eduard navigate the brand). I wasn’t married to the Streamliner and I had acquired a number of additional very nice pieces too rapidly to appreciate any of them. So I sold the Streamliner, a Heritage, a rose gold Endeavor, a Rolex Explorer ll polar, a JLC Sector Dial, a Cartier Tank Louis and several Panerai. By December, I owned one watch, my newly acquired Tonda GT that had all of the independent and horological underpinnings (maybe more) of the Moser with the day-to-day wearability I was searching for. A year later, a 2021 Sub Date is my daily wear. I wear the Tonda GT regularly, especially for evenings out, to church or when I know I’ll be in the office most of the day. For fun, I have a Linde Werdelin Oktopus. And after a year of being without a dress watch, a rose gold Kudoke 2 should arrive in January. I’m learning to enjoy a less is more approach to the hobby and am enjoying the relationships and experience independent watchmaking provides.
Thanks for sharing! Oh wow what a "ticking" journey in such a short time! Impressive! Well IMHO you did the right thing, since one should only wear and collect what he really appreciates day by day... I share comparable adventures with you ... in my early days of buying watches there was a coming and going as well ... Continue that way and always let your heart decide, it won't lie... AND never buy rational, but ALWAYS emotional ... May your favorites watches always show you HAPPY seconds, minutes and hours!
Very reminiscent of the Czapek Antarctique and perhaps a great alternative since those are getting expensive and are now waitlisted at least 15 months.
100 meter waterproof … refined and astonishing thin… there are many good reasons more to get interested in Parmigiani Fleurier. Don’t miss our videos coming in January!
Thank you for the information. No wonder King Charles III chose this brand. All their movements are inhouse R&D and manufacture. Is the stainless steel 316? Which of their models is COSC chronometer certified?
It is rare not to see Prince Charles wearing his gold Parmigiani Chronograph, it seems to have been his daily wear for many years over all his other watches. I like this one but must admit at this price point my heart is with the new high beat Alpine Eagle! Happy new year Alexander from just down the road in Kritzendorf!
It does however resemble an Omega Globemaster particularly in bezel and bracelet (though much more streamline than the Omega). I might have preferred a bezel engraving pattern distinct from usual coin edge. It might have been too daring of a proposition.
Even though there are some similarities between Omega and Parmigiani one should not compare the two brands… Omega is that what I would call the simpel perfect industrial luxury and Parmigiani the artisanal luxury…
Schöne Uhr, war einmal an einer Skeleton drann, wurde aber nichts weil der Preis für eine Uhr aus der Schweiz durch die EUSt einfach zu hoch war. Danke für die Vorstellung. Grüße
I actually prefer there isn't a second hand on the dial that makes it cleaner. How do you feel it on the wrist Alexander? Does it wear a lot bigger than its 41mm dial size since its so thin it might look really flat and the lugs are super wide with more and fatter materials around the case? For example, a vintage sub wears like 37ish comparing to a modern 40mm sub, and octo finisimo wears like 46mm due to its case design even though its only 40mm.
The dial aperture is "only" 35 mm … with all the “meat” left and right the diameter is 40 mm and the effective lug-to-lug 41 mm … if you also include the first two links of the bracelet directly attached to the watch head the distance though is 48 mm - 52 mm since these links are flexible … all this gives the watch a particular look ... it wears very comfortable and seems to be bigger than it is ...
There was something that was lacking for me from the first moment I saw PF although I am really loving whole concept and suptle design. The indexes are to short. Longer indexes would look so much better and reduce the impact of date window that is to dominant on this dial.
Thanks for your feedback! Little details can make a huge difference - yes! But tastes are different… so one might like it and some not … for me this Tonda is perfectly balanced… I wouldn’t want to change anything…
@@WatchAdvisor No i have been a fan of them for a few years sometime they get it right but other times they must have been drunk or high like the older crono pershings
The former managements took lots of wrong decisions and their designs were ugly - I agree! Guido Terreni has style, he knows what potential customers expect from a brand like Parmigiani Fleurier… It will take some time, but the watches will come… one after the other… just wait… Thanks for sharing our passion!
Of course I do… not sure if should share though… let me find out and come back to you… what I can say at least is that Parmigiani watches are luxury objects in the proper definition of that word…
Alexander, you presentation is your usual standard. ;-) Nice Music ;-) An interesting watch, which ,I can appreciate and admire but not own. I look for ward to your presentation on this company, (are you going to take the BLUE BROTHERS along for the filming? )
@@WatchAdvisor Alexander a few hints hints ;-) 1) a certain WATCH presenter, who loves the BLUE colour, recently bought 2 BLUE WATCHES. (This WATCH PRESENTER has 2 NEW BLUE WATCHES.) 2) One of the WATCHES is named SNOOPY.....the second WATCH is unnamed (at this present time) 3) the 2 BLUE WATCHES are ...so speak, BROTHERS IN ARMS (well more accurately....BROTHERS ON WRIST (S) ) So back to my question....are you going to take the BLUE BROTHERS along for the filming? :-) (11 more days untill the BEER FEST is over in OZ!!!!)
I’m trying to get hold of Mika Hakkinen as I plan The bank job of the New millennium.I fancy a piece unique in full platinum,A piece unique in 18 carat white gold and of course the one you have so thoroughly exhibited 😀❗️ An exquisite masterpiece par excellence .This is a timepiece you never sell and only hand down on the condition that it is never sold.
@@WatchAdvisor Thank you. Mika Hakkinen because he’s ice cool under pressure and is currently looking for high-profile events to bring him occasionally out of retirement whereas the younger Kimi Raikkonen wants to retire😏.The getaway driver is probably the most Critical component 😃
To be precise Vaucher Manufacture calibres are also shared with other selected customers … such as Richard Mille and Audemars Piguet … Hermès owns a 25% stake in Vaucher Manufacture… So Hermès has all rights to get the particular calibre the brand desires…
@@WatchAdvisor you did non answer to my question. I ask BECAUSE it is a very important component that was NEVER mentioned in your interview. Can you tell us who produce this bracialet? It’s a simple question. Or… something we can not know? 🤭
@@WatchAdvisor can you tell me when Parmigiani said that the bracialet is produced in Switzerland? Why instead keep making question you don’t simply answer to my question?
@@WatchAdvisor I can‘t put my finger on it, it just looks cheapish somehow. Maybe it‘s because it‘s not well known. But at least it‘s better than their old logo which came straight from a Panini booklet…
@@WatchAdvisor Yesterday, I checked these watches out in person. The Tonda Micro Rotor feels and looks excellent. Very cool understated look and from the back it's just stunning. I also thought that it wears smaller than a 40mm watch which is great! I also got the chance to handle the platinum chrono. This thing is something else! Wow!
Just finished this. Kinda disagree that you’re going to have to explain this watch. It’s for people who know. Those who don’t? Well… it’ll be a short conversation.
@@yashara1e It’s done… we will see how Guido and his team continue to develop this Tonda … since the chronograph already features a blue dial this could be the next color also on the “Micro-Rotor” …
Parmigiani is aware of the fact that some ADs did give and still give too much discount… that’s a definitely a practice that will be stopped now step by step…
It is many things, but not a copy of an Omega… You should widen your horizon and get interested in Parmigiani Fleurier… I am sure you will change mind and get convinced by this brand … 😉 Just my two cents!
@@WatchAdvisor Alexander - you already convinced me to upgrade my Breguet Marine from 5817 to 5517 which I really love 🤣 But at 21k we are looking at VC Overseas territory (yours truly has a black dial version) and VC is just a better watch.
@@maximl8820 Apparently only because there is no hyped "big", "well-known" name on it... Guys you just have to deal a little with the brand and think a little outside the box ...
@@robertcavalli8015 So what’s wrong? Apparently only because there is no artificially hyped "big", "well-known" name on it... Guys you just have to deal a little with the brand and think a little outside the box ...
21000 Franken für eine 2 Zeiger Uhr mit mini Datum und Stahlgehäuse ? Wenn ich richtig sehe gibt es keine Feinregulierung ? Nur über Rücker ? Guillochiertes Zifferblatt, ok, aber nicht von Hand ?! Überzeugt mich leider gar nicht. Schade.
Offenbar nur weil da kein künstlich gehypter „großer“, „bekannter“ Name draufsteht… Leute Ihr müsst euch einfach ein wenig mit der Marke beschäftigen und ein wenig über den Tellerrand hinaussehen …
@@WatchAdvisor Ganz sicher nicht. Als GO Freund und Träger ist man da sogar der Außenseiter schlecht hin. Da stimmt ja noch die Preisleistung. Als bessere Alternative zu PF finde ich dann noch Schwarz Etienne . Zu meinen angebrachten Fakten hätte ich mir zumindest eine fundiertere Antwort erhofft. Oder hab ich schlichtweg ins schwarze getroffen? Konstruktive Kritik sollte doch möglich sein, oder ?
@@MsFleshgear Schwarz Étienne?!?!?! Wirklich???? 🤦🏻♂️ Hätte Dir gerne geantwortet, doch nach dem Vergleich lasse ich es mal lieber bleiben… da werden wir uns nicht finden…
The dial aperture is 35 mm … with all the “meat” left and right the diameter is 40 mm and the lug-to-lug 41 mm … if you also include the first two links of the bracelet the distance is 48 mm - 52 mm since the links are flexible …
PLEASE read the description of this video! I am looking forward reading your comments and answering your questions.
I’ve never been all that keen on Parmigiani watches…until the release of this Tonda PF line! These are just so elegant, minimalist and more modern looking than their predecessors. A great choice for a luxury understated daily wear. I’d like to see a future variation of this particular model without the date window (I’ve never really liked those on watches) with a central seconds hand or small seconds sub-dial and the option of the gorgeous blue dial seen on the Tonda PF chronograph. The only thing I don’t really like about this watch pertains again to the date complication…a watch in this price range should have an instant change date! It would be the icing on the cake, so to speak. Still, if I could afford it, I’d love to have one of these 😁👍
David, thanks for sharing! Guido is reading here, I know it since I had him on the phone this afternoon… he came back from Miami … his flight had three hours delay and he missed his connecting flight to Geneva … he was stuck in the airport for hours… it is a good remark and he is open for such input…
What youre describing seems to match the tonda 1950
Subtle and beautiful! Great review Alexander!
And Guido Terreni only has started...
For me the appeal is the entirety of the manufacturing process under "one roof". Other than sourcing the brass blanks for the face all manufacturing including springs and screws is in house albeit separate and distinct buildings but still one parent company. Very impressive. Thank You for bringing this time piece and it’s story to our attention.
The production depth is very, very impressive! More or less the only thing that is missing is a crocodile farm 😜
Beautiful watch, I love the details of the bezel and the various levels of details on the face. The most intriguing paet is the pure simplicity that adds to the beauty. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and passion with us!
Thank you Alexander for covering this piece and the brand. This watch is absolutely beautiful. So elegant, understated and effortless. The fluidity of the design elements draws you in as one aspect of the watch and bracelet joins seamlessly and perfectly. My only negative comment is I wish you had also showed us the chronograph and annual calendar. Hopefully that will be in 2022.
Thanks for your kind feedback! The watches mentioned will of course follow! This was “only” the start of a series of videos / our interest in the brand…
Ordered mine last week. I really felt in love after seeing it in real. It is so incredible and it wears super comfy. And it definitely doesn't scream at anybody. I'm really looking forward enjoying it. And I read a lot about PF and watched the interviews with Guido Terreni. Great values, great company. I am very interested in seeing your January vids. Just hit the Abo and the notification button 😉
I absolutely understand what you mean and feel… Bravo! Congratulations! Thanks for sharing our passion, for subscribing and hitting the bell… How long will you have to wait?
@@WatchAdvisor First the AD said something about Q1 next year, but there might be a chance even before Christmas! Excited!
I keep my fingers crossed 🤞🏼
AD just called👍👍👍
@@j.faxwitz5668 Cool! Share some thoughts with us once you have your Tonda…
Very tempted to replace a Rolex in my collection for one of these. Parmigiani exudes class. Looking forward to the January videos.
Very good idea! You will never regret that step. A PF on your wrist is the expression of style and connoisseurship… The videos will give you a deep insight … if you have any questions always let me know…
GOD BLESS YOU ALEXANDER. I AM VERY PROUD OF YOU AND VERY HAPPY FOR YOU. I HOPE ALL OF YOUR DREAMS COME TRUE AND I HOPE YOUR FAMILY HAS THE BEST AND HAPPIEST HOLIDAY SEASON OF YOUR ENTIRE LIFE. 🙏
Thank you very much!
@@WatchAdvisor YOU ARE VERY WELCOME. I HOPE YOUR FAMILY HAS THE BEST AND HAPPIEST HOLIDAY SEASON OF THEIR ENTIRE LIFE. 🙏
Tried this on today. Thin, elegant and awesome looking watch.
Thanks for sharing! Let me know if you have any questions…
Love this review ! I have an older PF Tonda 1950 in rose gold/charcoal dial and I love mine! Your review is making me research into the new PF sports watches ! 😀
Thanks for sharing our passion! Love your feedback! May your Tonda always show you happy seconds, minutes and hours…
I recall a very early video from you saying that PF were difficult to arrange reviews of their watches. Which lead me to investigate them and it was so hard to find any watch reviews of substance on RUclips. Sounds like the new CEO is a buddy and he wants to change that. I like PF and the fact they basically make the complete watch in house is cool. I’m looking forward to seeing more.
Your perception is correct! The former management’s made lots of errors! Guido Terreni will now change that and successfully lead Parmigiani in a bright future. If I wouldn’t know he can do that I wouldn’t write it 😉 We will accompany Parmigiani Fleurier now and give you maximum insights… I love to widen your horizon…
Thanks for the video. I've heard Parmigiani mentioned from time to time but never really looked into their watches. It will be interesting to see the future videos at the company.
We will present real insights and delivers lots of interesting details … thanks for your interest and for sharing your thoughts with us!
The bezel is made of platinum?! Wow, bold choice. This watch is beautiful.
Yes! This Tonda rocks!
@@WatchAdvisor
My next watch.
Very tasteful and classic piece Alexander. A bit too dressy for my taste, but definately something to consider for those wanting to bridge the gap between dress and sport. I liked your details on the company and personnel also. You're right, it's not well known unfortunately. Looking forward to your future shows where you actually visit the manufacture.
Thanks for sharing!
The videos following will give some detailed insights and explain Parmigiani also from the manufacturer’s side… plus we sho more watches of course… I want you guys to discover this interesting brand…
I really appreciate the details of ownership and manufacturing. The watch is stunning and I’d love to have it, especially since I already have a high regard for Parmigiani watches.
In our videos we will present you Parmigiani Fleurier in all details… Can’t wait to read your comments thereafter … If you have any questions in the meantime, please let me know…
Sehr schönes Video Herr Linz mir gefällt diese Uhr .Diese Uhr strahlt eine schlichte klare Eleganz aus. Wie sie sagten eine Uhr für Kenner.....
Das ist eine Uhr für den Connaisseur! Dazu braucht es Reife und Selbstbewusstsein… Man genießt, weiß und schweigt…
Thank you for doing this Alexander! And I am very interested in getting the rose gold example of this one in the future! Too bad you didn’t showcase it here but appreciate the detailed hands-on! Also, surprising to hear that Breguet buys screws from Elwin. I knew about Patek doing that but never Breguet or SWATCH if we’re speaking truthfully!
I have a question for you to deliver when you meet with Guido Terreni. Ask him when will we see the Parmigiani x Giorgio Armani collection. It was supposed to be announced last November but so far nothing.
Thanks for sharing our passion! I will forward your question to Guido and let you know… more PF videos, also about watches, will follow in January…
@@WatchAdvisor Amazing! Can’t wait!
It is a truly wonderful watch: dial, movement, bezel and bracelet! The wrist feel is superb. It will be very versatile.
That’s what I would call a true luxury sports watch…
Wow, this watch looks fantastic! I'm very imperest, just sad that it has no fold over clasp on the bracelt with an adjustment feature... and maybe a second hand. Looks a little "empty" maybe... However, thanks for showing, Alexander!
This emptiness is pretty special - yes! We are no longer used to see such clean dials…
Very beautiful clean purist dial design. Personally though I do not like their bracelet. I just think at $20k price point you need something extra. Some has easy removable features, some has easy adjustment, some has unique materials, and etc..
I hear you! Thanks for sharing!
wonderful watch and i admire the work in making.
Thanks for your feedback! Did you also watch this video? ruclips.net/video/NvmVtiSDlAI/видео.html
Great video as usual. I can’t help but to think Guido Terreni brought som design elements over from Bulgari. The movement in particular looks similar to the Octo Finissimo Automatic movement.
This calibre was created many, many years before. Michel Parmigiani conceived the CHOPARD L.U.C 1.96 micro-rotor calibre that debuted in 1996 in a CHOPARD watch for the Scheufele Family… When Michel’s brand was created in 1996 this calibre also debuted as a Parmigiani derivate later … The Bulgari Octo Finissimo calibre has nothing to do here … the fact that both feature a micro-rotor is due to the thin construction … if you want a thin automatic calibre this is one way to do it … if someone “copied” then Bulgari and for sure not Parmigiani …
Will be my third PF in the collection (picking it up next week the steel version), next to my Tonda GT steel and Kalpa XL Hebdomadaire Anniversaire. Love where the brand is heading!
Bravo! Congratulation! Thanks for sharing our passion! May your Parmigiani watches always show you HAPPY seconds, minutes and hours!
PF is one of the most under appreciated brands in the luxury watch making world, in my opinion. I can’t understand why? I really love the new design of the Tonda. One radical change I would consider if I were running the company. I would call it Michel Fleurier. That name sounds more appropriate for a French speaking swiss watch brand. That’s just my personal feeling.
We will start filming tomorrow at Parmigiani and deliver you some real insights… No Michel Fleurier please! It is Parmigiani 😜
@@WatchAdvisor Looking forward to it. I love their watches!! They are out of my price range. But, I can still appreciate them. As they say, maybe someday?
I replaced my H Moser Streamliner with the Tonda GT last December and have enjoyed everything about it. I can foresee adding another Parmigiani in the future.
What didn’t you like with the Streamliner? Can you share some thoughts with us? And which Parmigiani do you have in mind?
@@WatchAdvisor I liked the Streamliner very much. The quality was top notch. The comfort was exceptional. The uniqueness separated it from the rest of the integrated competition. However, I was the first customer to receive it in the United States in August 2020, and I acquired it for $18k, a very good price in light of present demand (which I anticipated as I watch Eduard navigate the brand). I wasn’t married to the Streamliner and I had acquired a number of additional very nice pieces too rapidly to appreciate any of them. So I sold the Streamliner, a Heritage, a rose gold Endeavor, a Rolex Explorer ll polar, a JLC Sector Dial, a Cartier Tank Louis and several Panerai. By December, I owned one watch, my newly acquired Tonda GT that had all of the independent and horological underpinnings (maybe more) of the Moser with the day-to-day wearability I was searching for. A year later, a 2021 Sub Date is my daily wear. I wear the Tonda GT regularly, especially for evenings out, to church or when I know I’ll be in the office most of the day. For fun, I have a Linde Werdelin Oktopus. And after a year of being without a dress watch, a rose gold Kudoke 2 should arrive in January. I’m learning to enjoy a less is more approach to the hobby and am enjoying the relationships and experience independent watchmaking provides.
Thanks for sharing! Oh wow what a "ticking" journey in such a short time! Impressive! Well IMHO you did the right thing, since one should only wear and collect what he really appreciates day by day... I share comparable adventures with you ... in my early days of buying watches there was a coming and going as well ... Continue that way and always let your heart decide, it won't lie... AND never buy rational, but ALWAYS emotional ... May your favorites watches always show you HAPPY seconds, minutes and hours!
@@tockingwatches2377awesome comment....thanks for sharing your timepiece journey! i agree....less is more. impeccable taste btw!
Very reminiscent of the Czapek Antarctique and perhaps a great alternative since those are getting expensive and are now waitlisted at least 15 months.
Tastes are different... I'd always go for the Parmigiani...
Love the review! I am curious to ask where you can find the plastic pointer? The transparent one you used before and this black one.
www.bergeon.swiss
This is haute horlogerie at its best. How lovely this watch is also for a sports watch enthusiast like me.
100 meter waterproof … refined and astonishing thin… there are many good reasons more to get interested in Parmigiani Fleurier. Don’t miss our videos coming in January!
Love this brand 🎩 wish dails comes in variety of colours 🙏
Good input! Thanks for sharing! Will forward your suggestions to Guido…
Thank you for the information. No wonder King Charles III chose this brand. All their movements are inhouse R&D and manufacture.
Is the stainless steel 316?
Which of their models is COSC chronometer certified?
"Which of their models is COSC chronometer certified" ... None! I don't know which steel they use... but I will find out...
@@WatchAdvisor thank you…
I love how Parmigiani has never tried to be anything but itself.
True! This will not change…
It’s a great one
I think so too … and the more we will show about Parmigiani Fleurier the more will say the same…
Love love love ❤this watch! Can’t wait to have it finally on my wrist ❤
When did you order it? Keep us posted please...
@@WatchAdvisor few weeks ago. Taking it Friday this weeek. I wrote you a DM on you IG account ☺️
@@albertomoro86 I saw it only a few days ago and since then I try to arrange your "meeting" with Guido ... the plan was to surprise you though ...
@@WatchAdvisor what ?!? 💓 🥰 🫶
It is rare not to see Prince Charles wearing his gold Parmigiani Chronograph, it seems to have been his daily wear for many years over all his other watches. I like this one but must admit at this price point my heart is with the new high beat Alpine Eagle! Happy new year Alexander from just down the road in Kritzendorf!
True! He and his Parmigiani seem to be a good team! Tastes are different... I prefer the Tonda!
Stunning movement!
If you look close you will see similarities to the very first CHOPARD L.U.C micro rotor calibre… it was also conceived by Michel Parmigiani…
Wow 🤩, Alexander that one was fitting very well on your wrist. Would you put it in a collection?
It fitted well - yes! But I am also open to wear bigger watches… Will a Parmigiani one day make its way into my collection? Yesssss!
Great used prices. Excellent watch . Classy .
Situation on the secondary market will quickly change from now on… so hurry up! Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us!
It does however resemble an Omega Globemaster particularly in bezel and bracelet (though much more streamline than the Omega). I might have preferred a bezel engraving pattern distinct from usual coin edge. It might have been too daring of a proposition.
Even though there are some similarities between Omega and Parmigiani one should not compare the two brands… Omega is that what I would call the simpel perfect industrial luxury and Parmigiani the artisanal luxury…
7:46 100% movements are produced indoor ... much better than outdoor! 😉😅.
And you have a good sense for humor ... Yes, for sure better indoor… 😆
Better and a better value than Czapek. Thanks for the good look. I might be hooked!
Don’t compare the two brands… PF has an impressive industrial and watchmaking background …
@@WatchAdvisor Exactly. I hope to travel and see some PF soon.
To start with don’t miss our upcoming videos about PF in January… and let me know if you have any questions…
Schöne Uhr, war einmal an einer Skeleton drann, wurde aber nichts weil der Preis für eine Uhr aus der Schweiz durch die EUSt einfach zu hoch war. Danke für die Vorstellung. Grüße
Wolltest Du die damals aus der Schweiz importieren? Oder war einfach der Preisunterschied zwischen EU und CH zu groß?
@@WatchAdvisor Aus der Schweiz, die einzige Skeleton die im Angebot war.
Die musst Du Dir das nächste Mal einfach in der Schweiz abholen… 😉
I actually prefer there isn't a second hand on the dial that makes it cleaner. How do you feel it on the wrist Alexander? Does it wear a lot bigger than its 41mm dial size since its so thin it might look really flat and the lugs are super wide with more and fatter materials around the case? For example, a vintage sub wears like 37ish comparing to a modern 40mm sub, and octo finisimo wears like 46mm due to its case design even though its only 40mm.
The dial aperture is "only" 35 mm … with all the “meat” left and right the diameter is 40 mm and the effective lug-to-lug 41 mm … if you also include the first two links of the bracelet directly attached to the watch head the distance though is 48 mm - 52 mm since these links are flexible … all this gives the watch a particular look ... it wears very comfortable and seems to be bigger than it is ...
@@WatchAdvisor thanks you for the measurement!
I want this voice in french cinema 😜
Thank you for the compliment! May I still be curious and ask you what you think about the Tonda?
@@WatchAdvisor I really love its minimalism, discretion has become an important selling point i think.
Love how thin it is
And still it is 100 meter waterproof…
I would really like a small seconds hand
You are not the first to state this… interesting! For me nothing is missing though… we are no longer used to see such clean dials I think…
I agree. My OCD requires that I see a moving seconds hand.
I hear you! 😆
There was something that was lacking for me from the first moment I saw PF although I am really loving whole concept and suptle design. The indexes are to short. Longer indexes would look so much better and reduce the impact of date window that is to dominant on this dial.
Thanks for your feedback! Little details can make a huge difference - yes! But tastes are different… so one might like it and some not … for me this Tonda is perfectly balanced… I wouldn’t want to change anything…
This is a true gem lovely period.
Is it the first time you encounter a Parmigiani Fleurier watch?
@@WatchAdvisor No i have been a fan of them for a few years sometime they get it right but other times they must have been drunk or high like the older crono pershings
The former managements took lots of wrong decisions and their designs were ugly - I agree! Guido Terreni has style, he knows what potential customers expect from a brand like Parmigiani Fleurier… It will take some time, but the watches will come… one after the other… just wait… Thanks for sharing our passion!
Do we know anything about annual production from Parmigiani?
Of course I do… not sure if should share though… let me find out and come back to you… what I can say at least is that Parmigiani watches are luxury objects in the proper definition of that word…
Parmigiani should show more of the new Tonda PF Sport
Good to know…
Alexander, you presentation is your usual standard. ;-)
Nice Music ;-)
An interesting watch, which ,I can appreciate and admire but not own.
I look for ward to your presentation on this company,
(are you going to take the BLUE BROTHERS along for the filming? )
Thanks once again for your positive feedback! Who are the blue brothers?
@@WatchAdvisor Alexander a few hints hints ;-)
1) a certain WATCH presenter, who loves the BLUE colour, recently bought 2 BLUE WATCHES.
(This WATCH PRESENTER has 2 NEW BLUE WATCHES.)
2) One of the WATCHES is named SNOOPY.....the second WATCH is unnamed (at this present time)
3) the 2 BLUE WATCHES are ...so speak, BROTHERS IN ARMS (well more accurately....BROTHERS ON WRIST (S) )
So back to my question....are you going to take the BLUE BROTHERS along for the filming? :-)
(11 more days untill the BEER FEST is over in OZ!!!!)
“Blue” will be on my wrist for sure… not sure which one though 😉
@@WatchAdvisor take them both :-)
I’m trying to get hold of Mika Hakkinen as I plan The bank job of the New millennium.I fancy a piece unique in full platinum,A piece unique in 18 carat white gold and of course the one you have so thoroughly exhibited 😀❗️
An exquisite masterpiece par excellence .This is a timepiece you never sell and only hand down on the condition that it is never sold.
Love your sense of humor! Why Mika Hakkinen? 😆
@@WatchAdvisor Thank you. Mika Hakkinen because he’s ice cool under pressure and is currently looking for high-profile events to bring him occasionally out of retirement whereas the younger Kimi Raikkonen wants to retire😏.The getaway driver is probably the most Critical component 😃
Why the date? Why no second hand?
Because the date function is more important than a seconds hand… many don’t buy a watch if it does not feature a date…
...like the classic Royal Oak. Love it!! I would never buy a watch without date!!
"If I were wealthy man ... yubbid dibby dibby ... dibby dum" (Fiddler on the roof).
I love your passion though…
the perfect watch, probably a platinium version is missing. expensive understatement always!!
A full platinum version would be pretty heavy though...
@@WatchAdvisor true
@@francescovallone6870 So I am not so sure if Guido is going to do that...
@@WatchAdvisor you're right, he already would have done it. verry experienced.
@@WatchAdvisorthey literally just released it 👀😍
Cool watch but no micro adjustment or half link is a deal breaker for me. It also bugs me that it doesn't have any kind of second hand.
There are only half links, so you can adjust the bracelet quite good, but yes a micro length adjustment in the clasp is missing…
Could you tell us the width of the bracelet near the top, which tapers down to what measurement?
27 > 20 mm
Any thoughts on the fact the movement is shared with Hermes? For £20,000?? For me watches are more that just aesthetics, but each to their own.
To be precise Vaucher Manufacture calibres are also shared with other selected customers … such as Richard Mille and Audemars Piguet … Hermès owns a 25% stake in Vaucher Manufacture… So Hermès has all rights to get the particular calibre the brand desires…
Why did they replace the Tonda GT that came out in 2020 so quickly with this Tonda PF?
The Tonda PF does not replace the GT. It complements it is style and price points.
@@WatchAdvisor ok thanks
Is the bracelet manufactured in Switzerland? Who produce it?
Why do you think the bracelet is not manufactured in Switzerland?
@@WatchAdvisor you did non answer to my question. I ask BECAUSE it is a very important component that was NEVER mentioned in your interview. Can you tell us who produce this bracialet? It’s a simple question. Or… something we can not know? 🤭
@@MC-dh3my So you don’t trust Parmigiani? Why should the bracelet not be manufactured in Switzerland?
@@WatchAdvisor can you tell me when Parmigiani said that the bracialet is produced in Switzerland? Why instead keep making question you don’t simply answer to my question?
@@MC-dh3my So where do they make them? You seem to know more than we do….
I like the dial but I don't like the applied logo.
Is there a particular reason? Is it the Parmigiani seal?
@@WatchAdvisor I can‘t put my finger on it, it just looks cheapish somehow. Maybe it‘s because it‘s not well known. But at least it‘s better than their old logo which came straight from a Panini booklet…
You must see and try the watch in real… you will change your mind… the PF seal as an applied logo on that dial really does not look cheap…
@@WatchAdvisor I guess I have to stop by at Gübelin at some point.
@@WatchAdvisor Yesterday, I checked these watches out in person. The Tonda Micro Rotor feels and looks excellent. Very cool understated look and from the back it's just stunning. I also thought that it wears smaller than a 40mm watch which is great! I also got the chance to handle the platinum chrono. This thing is something else! Wow!
Great watches. A little too expensive right now.
I hear you… I keep my fingers crossed 🤞🏻
What a wonder.
What do you like most?
@@WatchAdvisor Definitely the finishing of the watch. I do find that at the price point it seems like a hard sell to make.
Thanks for sharing! In fact it is outstanding quality you get…
Is there a model without date?
No! The actual classic Tonda is the one you see… there are other models of course… a chronograph, an annual calendar and a split-seconds chronograph
Mooi horloge
Wat bevalt je precies aan het horloge?
Just finished this. Kinda disagree that you’re going to have to explain this watch. It’s for people who know. Those who don’t? Well… it’ll be a short conversation.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us!
Can you show other dials too
For the moment there are no other dials... What color would you be interested in?
@@WatchAdvisor white and also blue might be interesting. Also need a darker shade of grey or say a black dial for more contrast
@@yashara1e Will pass your suggestions to Guido Terreni ... Thanks for sharing!
@@WatchAdvisor wow that would be cool, thank you
@@yashara1e It’s done… we will see how Guido and his team continue to develop this Tonda … since the chronograph already features a blue dial this could be the next color also on the “Micro-Rotor” …
Whow ist die schön
Das freut mich zu lesen, danke fürs Feedback! Kanntest Du Parmigiani Fleurier bereits als Marke? Wenn ja… Haben Dir davor schon Modelle gefallen?
good watch, but not at retail
Parmigiani is aware of the fact that some ADs did give and still give too much discount… that’s a definitely a practice that will be stopped now step by step…
I always feel a watch should have a second hand if its got a date complication.
I hear you! I didn’t have the impression something is missing here, but I understand what you mean…
Is the movement the same as the one in Slim D'Hermes?
Hermès holds a 25% stake in Vaucher Manufacture, as I mentioned in the video … so yes, it is the same calibre, but with a different finishing …
@@WatchAdvisor thank you for the reply sir!
The watch design is inspired by Omega Constellation Globemaster. I am not convinced by this brand. To me Breguet & VC > All day long.
It is many things, but not a copy of an Omega… You should widen your horizon and get interested in Parmigiani Fleurier… I am sure you will change mind and get convinced by this brand … 😉 Just my two cents!
@@WatchAdvisor Alexander - you already convinced me to upgrade my Breguet Marine from 5817 to 5517 which I really love 🤣 But at 21k we are looking at VC Overseas territory (yours truly has a black dial version) and VC is just a better watch.
@@maximl8820 Apparently only because there is no hyped "big", "well-known" name on it... Guys you just have to deal a little with the brand and think a little outside the box ...
Remove the date and add a second hand and this would be perfect
This then would then be another watch!
For me this is in this condition an absolutely perfect watch...
Hahaha
What is so funny?
@@WatchAdvisor the relation between value and money... simple as that
@@robertcavalli8015 So what’s wrong? Apparently only because there is no artificially hyped "big", "well-known" name on it... Guys you just have to deal a little with the brand and think a little outside the box ...
21000 Franken für eine 2 Zeiger Uhr mit mini Datum und Stahlgehäuse ?
Wenn ich richtig sehe gibt es keine Feinregulierung ? Nur über Rücker ?
Guillochiertes Zifferblatt, ok, aber nicht von Hand ?!
Überzeugt mich leider gar nicht. Schade.
Offenbar nur weil da kein künstlich gehypter „großer“, „bekannter“ Name draufsteht… Leute Ihr müsst euch einfach ein wenig mit der Marke beschäftigen und ein wenig über den Tellerrand hinaussehen …
@@WatchAdvisor
Ganz sicher nicht. Als GO Freund und Träger ist man da sogar der Außenseiter schlecht hin.
Da stimmt ja noch die Preisleistung.
Als bessere Alternative zu PF finde ich dann noch Schwarz Etienne .
Zu meinen angebrachten Fakten hätte ich mir zumindest eine fundiertere Antwort erhofft. Oder hab ich schlichtweg ins schwarze getroffen?
Konstruktive Kritik sollte doch möglich sein, oder ?
@@MsFleshgear Schwarz Étienne?!?!?! Wirklich???? 🤦🏻♂️ Hätte Dir gerne geantwortet, doch nach dem Vergleich lasse ich es mal lieber bleiben… da werden wir uns nicht finden…
@@MsFleshgear Schwarze Etienne der war gut haha also da kennt sich wohl jemand nicht ganz so aus :D
STOP SCRATCHING DELICATE WATCHES WITH YOUR BERGEON AXE!
Did you listen to what I said in the video? It is a plastic pointer… NO WAY to scratch a watch with such a tool…
@@WatchAdvisor please describe this on your next video 😅
I clearly mention it twice in this video… please just watch it … obviously you didn’t do that and/or you watched it without sound…
41mm lug to lug measurement seems off. It must be bigger, no?
The dial aperture is 35 mm … with all the “meat” left and right the diameter is 40 mm and the lug-to-lug 41 mm … if you also include the first two links of the bracelet the distance is 48 mm - 52 mm since the links are flexible …