Parmigiani Fleurier Tonda PF Chronograph
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- A look at the haute horology integrated bracelet steel sports watch from Parmigiani Fleurier and Michel Parmigiani.
On the Parmigiani website - parmigiani.com...
Original Hodinkee article (which has since been edited) incorrectly stating that the guilloché dial was done on a rose engine: web.archive.or...
According to this article, the dials are machine by CNC:
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You’re officially the best YT watch reviewer, period. Highly produced videos, great observations and commentary. Fantastic job. Now please stop it for the sake of my savings.
Never! (But thanks)
You are right about PF nailing those details and staying true to their brand identity. Their sports watches just never quite wowed me as much as, maybe, a Czapek Antarctique does. But I'm glad manufacturers like PF are around and have their respective audiences, especially since some of their dressy pieces are simply stunning. Thanks for showcasing this watch; your tastefully executed videos are an accolade for every timepiece.
ok, so can i just say that in addition to the generally brilliant reviews, the luscious color schemes of your video backgrounds are seriously underrated.
I've always liked the tonda! It's very refined, yet modern. One of my grails for sure. Beautiful watch
The Tonda PF collection just oozes sophistication. Great video of something off the beaten path.
The platinum split second chronograph is an insane watch... I’d love to get my hands on one of those.
Me too
PF is a great brand! I tried on some of their watches in one of their official boutiques. I was close to buying a 1950's Tonda with a micro roter. Beautiful piece! In the end I did not buy any because I knew that I will fall out of love sooner or later because I was in quite a 'flipper' mood back then. And unfortunately PF doesn't hold value like many other true gems of Swiss watchmaking. Don't get me wrong, that's not the most important thing in the world if you are really deep down the rabbit hole. But for me it wouldn't have been a smart purchase. That said I really admire everyone wearing a PF! Even if I just met one single guy with a PF on his wrist....
It will have close to no resale value, but that’s ok… right? Right?
The Tonda to me is "The" watch to buy second hand if your looking for a solid gold dress watch for a killer price.
I have never seen anybody wearing a PF, I have only seen discounted stock at grey’s for 30-40cts on the dollar.. which can be a good thing, but even if you could obtain this Tonda for 65% off list I would struggle to buy it. It’s too plain Jane for me and I rather get a Overseas instead..
Only just discovered this channel, but it's great. Looking forward to seeing more pieces away from the usual brands.
Im in love with that column wheel display in the back!!
Great video of a gorgeous time piece. Please us some more of the brushed finish meets polished close ups. The pushers are pure class and attention to detail. Thank you
Absolutely gorgeous!! The blue Chrono is amazing looking.
Looks like a fashion watch to my eyes, at least from a distance
I agree. It sure is well made, but the dial looks rather boring.
It doesn’t get any better than this! A dream for me
The cardi is looking sharp... and the video is as sharp as ever
Amazing. And how cool is the new GMT rattrappante? PF is really on another planet!
YAS! Came here for something different, stayed for an amazing watch. I'm really interested in Parmigiani Fleurier at the moment. This has only made me more interested! ;)
If this came out in 1975 it would be in the same breath as Nautilus and Royal Oak and trading at 3x MSRP. Very cool.
The movement looks more beautiful than the dial does...wonder if you can wear it inversed...
Would really love to hear your thoughts on the Czapek Antarctique! Maybe you can get your hands on one of these in the future. Nice video as always. Regards
I saw a comment from from some eminent dignitary on Instagram that this was the most comfortable bracelet they had ever worn, but you didn't really mention that, except that it felt a little top heavy, so with that being said and the price, I might just have to settle for a rose engine for Valentines Day this year. Great review as always, and yes, that's why we keep coming here. For the unexpected.
The most comfortable bracelet? No, not for me. But everyone's wrist is different.
So far they did (do) parts for other companies, plus great watches, for collectors mostly. Now they make a turn, want a bigger piece in the market, thus the heavy marketing lately. As for this line, the chronos may be masterpieces technically but the three hand... clean big dial with minimal indicies, small plain logo (nothing else!) and a matched date at 6. Add the amazing texture and the bracelet... boom! A watch to watch at!
Like your comment… and i agree with everything u said.
So many ppl in the comments saying it is beautiful...I just do not get it. I am not a designer or anything close, but the dial, just make me feel uncomfortable to look at. Sorry for the negative comment, but a great quality video as usual.
Thanks for this beautiful video , this is one of my grails. Just so well executed.
It really is.
Another great review. Good camera work and sense of humor.
have to agree on this one -
Youre Terrific - you got the best camera works out of the bunch.
I love parmigiani and czapek watches both underrated!
It's interesting. Earlier today I was reading an article about this watch. The funny thing is that the article was suggested by Google. Finally a good suggestion 😁
Great vid! 👍🏻
Google is learning.
This watch is just glorious
Not bad.
The new formex field watch was just released. It would be awesome if you did a video on it, since you’ve already don’t a lot of formex already
Perfection.
Damn Bro, $31K!!
That annual calendar you reviewed previously was nice.
The two hander nice also.
They’re well, yeah nice.
So is you’re cardi btw, nice…
Excellent review. For the record, I think I may be nothing to many people.
Welcome to the club.
Another great presentation but then we expect that :) A superb piece for the discerning with deep pockets (not me), and a more interesting - and exclusive - choice than the usual Holy Trinity suspects. I wouldn't choose this one but a joy to see it here just the same.
Awesome vid and review. Love your content and coverage of the in the know Brands…
Excellent review. Succinct overview without getting too "down n dirty". Save that for a full on "month on the wrist" writeup. Cheers.
No, you're wrong! You can watch WatchAdvisor's video on how the dial and case is made. The guilloche dial is CNC made.. as is the bezel. Unfortunately no traditionally engine turned guilloche nor hand knurled bezel.
What’s your opinion on this one or the Chronograph Annual Calendar you did few years ago.
Very interesting piece. Great Video as always!
Cracking review. Great channel. How did I miss this? Subbd. Thank you
one of my few criticisms of this watch, is that a chrono is a tool-watch by definition. Yet they use no lume. Otherwise, it is a wonderful design.
Great editing and great watch!
I'll take credit for the editing.
To say that I'm excited for the P01 review is an under statement. My God in not ready for it 😂❤️
Is there a less pricy equivalent to Parmigiani Fleurier?
Almost spit out my cashews when you said the price. Woo!
Don't waste those cashews! You'll need the money.
Great video, as usual. I really want to like this watch, but, I just don't. Now, I don't have to be upset that I don't have the money to buy one. Win, win!
Thank you for this very insightful review Evan! You nailed it...Parmigiani is A LOT for a few in the know...thanks for your appreciation of the Tonda PF Chronograph!
My pleasure!
PF is next level.
The new logo wasn't the best choice...
Especially on the three hand watches, it's completely lost and way to small.
Anyway, from a technical and finishing perspective they produce some very nice watches!
But if I needed to go independent, I would go for Laurent Ferrier, or Czapek.
I agree with the three hander but think it works quite well on this chrono
Love everything about these.. except… the PF at the top. I think it messes up the balance and makes the bottom half of the dial too “heavy.”
Absolutely stunning!
👍
Is it lucky? Today was kind of rough so I put on my lucky watch and it instantly got better. Funny how that works.
No I love PF, I know PF and I know how hard they are to capture on photo or video, good job.
Now my only question is at what point does Evan get tired of the parmesan cheese/ Italian food jokes?
I was tired of them before they started.
Beautiful always liked there watches but not the price . Only because I can’t afford one 🤦🏻♂️
Great looking watch 👍👍👍
god i wish i could afford a Parmigiani. they're just so sweet
Start saving... everything.
Nice one, yet again!!
The guillochage is not hand-turned with a guilloche machine. It’s CNC’ed which is teeeeeny tiiiiny bit disappointing.
For this dial Parmigiani clearly said they used a rose engine. www.hodinkee.com/articles/parmigiani-tonda-pf-collection
@@YoureTerrific Strange. Just asked Alex of WatchAdvisor a few days ago in his video where he visited Parmigiani manufacture and told me in the comments that it’s not real guillochage.
I love their watches. I'd love to own one someday. I don't like how the name sounds like a dish from olive garden.
I think about pasta too, when I hear the name. Guess it’s because Parmigiani is my favorite cheese…lol
This is just amazing
Not come across this brand before. Not my style, or budget, but a really interesting video as always.
Very nice looking watch, must cost a bomb to get serviced!
We don't talk about that. 🤫
Beautiful. It might just be that it “suffers” from being in that tight niche of being way to stylish (and expensive) to be a daily casual wearer while not fully satisfying the dressy/formal side either. Luxury problems, I know. But if you spend that much cash, it could still be a problem.
Can you shoot the watches little bit closer to the camera please ?
Another great video!
Thanks
бесконечно элегантные и вне времени.
Looks like an Omega Globemaster mixed with an Aqua Terra Chronograph
Great review!
nice cardigan too, which i am more likely able to afford
Same
The movement is gorgeous. The dial sort of looks like a Vincero or something off of Ali Express. There's too much negative space. The borderless date window looks unfinished.
I hear you.
Please review the bangalore watch company mach.1 2nd gen
Your channel is indeed terrific! 👍
Thanks
I don't like chronographs but this one looks very good! "Checks price" Sad first world problem tears.
I’m sorry for your loss.
Damn bro you couldn't wait until I could afford one before making the video...
Apologies
Yummy! I’ll take mine with eggplant over linguini.
Not for me, but loved the video
31k ? What were they smoking ?
Money
Nobody pays full price for Parmigiani…discount of 30-50%, can be had.
Yay, I'm first! Great video as always~
Thanks
i like parmigiani sprinkled on my pasta
Am I the only one who CANNOT see this watch brand and not always and immediately think of a chicken parmigiana 🐔🐔🐔🐔
Thirty
One
K
Squarely in the, “oh well” category as I give the stink eye to my Nomos…..
“Be better, you!!”
That’s no way to talk to a Nomos!
@@YoureTerrific 😂
Not a fan of the watch but "terrific" video.:)
They HAVE to change their name. I'm of Italian heritage, and when I hear Parmigiani all I can think of is cheese...
Is it just me or is this very hard to read?
I’m now in the know…with need for dough.
I hear that.
I am a fan but really feel it's difficult to love the execution, the mix between simplicity and too many details makes the design lose coherence, first while the dial is clean it didn't allow for a smaller case , the bezel also is overdesigned for no reason and the same for links design on the bracelet, some details need toning down to keep the theme of simple elegance present overall.
Doesn't prince Charles have a Tonda chrono? 🤔🧐
Not hand guilloche maybe machine
Does anyone know if this is hand machine guilloche or just machined. Seem to be seeing conflicting information. I thought all guilloche was hand turned or can it be fully done by machines automated now?
Ive yet to see a watch in this channel that doesn't sit well on his wrists lmao
I feel like most watches are designed for wrists my size. I'm about average for a Europe-descended cis male.
31K for a steel watch.. This is getting quite ridiculous now
There are many from many brands.
@@YoureTerrific my point exactly. Starting to get ridiculous now.
The Rolex Daytona in comparison is a melting iron
I love everything about this watch except the dial…very reminiscent of a cheap fashion watch
I love this watch, but by putting the Tonda in the same price range as the VC Overseas I would pick Overseas all day everyday. Also, Parmigiani doesn’t hold value nearly as well as other brands it is trying to compete with from an investment perspective. If this sold in the 10k-20k range I think it would do much better.
Sounds like you have no idea what kind of build quality you’re getting with PF. If a VC is a Rolls Royce then a PF is a Rolls Royce with all the bells and whistles. Know what you’re buying before you knock a retail price. If VC made this exact watch the exact same way (components, movement etc.) it would cost at least 40,000. This is 100% the best Chronograph available in a sports watch that’s available on the market. It’s not even a contest.
Also…..you can’t buy these either unless you were dead first or know your retailer. So their sales for the TONDA PF line are not an issue. Go look at the secondary market
This also wears much slimmer, smaller and gracefully than a VC overseas Chronograph.
And if you’re buying watches for investments, then high horology is not for you. Just stick to the names
Yes that comma is in the right place… sorry 😂
🤷🏻♂️
Sorry to be a party pooper, but the face of this watch and all the other ones of this line look generic to say the least. It really reminds me of a budget Orient chronograph, which actually is more interesting. The dial pattern isn't enough to save it from inducing total boredom and the date window is like they cut a random hole on the dial. Just awful. I am sure they are great watches from a technical and finishing point, but they are not attractive at all...
BHE HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Glad someone noticed.
For a few in the know... and in the wallet :>
For sure.
Hawt. Same market price as the vulgar Daytona. Imagine.
Less, I believe.
It looks...... weird
Parmigiani looks like Jeff Daniels. Change my mind.
I'm going to need an explanation.
Like your vids, but this watch is UGLY
A review of a chrono without a demonstration of the action or a explanation of the sub dials, I think the 6 is running seconds but......anyway very fustrating the split seconds are just read from the main dial I suppose? As for Guido's marketing speak this makes the whole vid come across as an ad, not a review or "news". Im sorry man but this was an annoying and shoddy video, sorry to criticise but I'm genuinely fascinated by this brand, well the non gold/silly models and I learnt very little I couldn't have got from the catalogue, The cardigan we'll leave to one side , at least you dress like an adult.
Thanks. You seem great.