I have been unwittingly converted to the stiff brake camp. I had been using csl elite pedals with the soft elastomers for years. But one of them ripped so I had no choice but to install the harder ones. It has made me realise how sloppy I was on the brakes before. I'm still getting used to it but I notice I lock up less frequently.
Long travel brake in race cars doesn't mean that there's brake fade or worn brake pads. Race car brake pedal can be quite soft... even if u remove brake booster, u can use smaller master cylinder that will push less brake fluid resulting in longer travel and softer pedal.
IMO you forgot the most important part of this discussion and that is inertia and g-force. This makes it easier to apply force to a stiff pedal resulting in more travel for a brake pedal in a real race car. In short more travel is more realistic. Take a look at this video, from Random Callsign interviewing real race car drivers about this very topic. Pro Drivers DEBUNK sim racing pedals myths. ruclips.net/video/XNot6nWEPAo/видео.htmlsi=SgHYoFcU-hTLC8q4
Hi! I did talk about the G-forces at 2:26, all be it very slightly. 😅 Of course then the bore size of the master cylinder changes the overall behaviour of the brakes. Smaller bore size - High pressure, Low force, longer travel Larger bore size - Low pressure, High force, Shorter travel. But, I don't think smaller bore size is preferred in race cars. And yeah, I saw that RC video 3/4 times, it was an informative one. We need more of that stuff!
@@darthsnape Haha so you did.. I watched the video twice and missed it both times.. What I do is try to replicate the pedal travel of an average GT3 race car, with a pressure I'm comfortable applying for prolonged sessions. It's not the most scientific method but it looks and "feels" realistic too me.😎
@@Gati_I As long as it feels right, nothing else matters ;) Also, I'll take a note to talk a bit more about a crucial aspect of a topic, especially when I decided to make a video on it 😆
great video amigo!
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I have been unwittingly converted to the stiff brake camp. I had been using csl elite pedals with the soft elastomers for years. But one of them ripped so I had no choice but to install the harder ones. It has made me realise how sloppy I was on the brakes before. I'm still getting used to it but I notice I lock up less frequently.
Same happened to me. I too believed in travel and didn't liked the stiff pedals much, until I tried them. And man what a difference!
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Long travel brake in race cars doesn't mean that there's brake fade or worn brake pads.
Race car brake pedal can be quite soft... even if u remove brake booster, u can use smaller master cylinder that will push less brake fluid resulting in longer travel and softer pedal.
Yeah, I think the bore size of master cylinder eases or stiffens up the travel?
IMO you forgot the most important part of this discussion and that is inertia and g-force. This makes it easier to apply force to a stiff pedal resulting in more travel for a brake pedal in a real race car.
In short more travel is more realistic.
Take a look at this video, from Random Callsign interviewing real race car drivers about this very topic.
Pro Drivers DEBUNK sim racing pedals myths.
ruclips.net/video/XNot6nWEPAo/видео.htmlsi=SgHYoFcU-hTLC8q4
Hi! I did talk about the G-forces at 2:26, all be it very slightly. 😅
Of course then the bore size of the master cylinder changes the overall behaviour of the brakes.
Smaller bore size - High pressure, Low force, longer travel
Larger bore size - Low pressure, High force, Shorter travel.
But, I don't think smaller bore size is preferred in race cars.
And yeah, I saw that RC video 3/4 times, it was an informative one. We need more of that stuff!
@@darthsnape Haha so you did.. I watched the video twice and missed it both times..
What I do is try to replicate the pedal travel of an average GT3 race car, with a pressure I'm comfortable applying for prolonged sessions. It's not the most scientific method but it looks and "feels" realistic too me.😎
@@Gati_I As long as it feels right, nothing else matters ;)
Also, I'll take a note to talk a bit more about a crucial aspect of a topic, especially when I decided to make a video on it 😆
First 😉