Can "Magpeds" bridge the gap between flat and clipless pedals?
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- Опубликовано: 17 сен 2022
- I like certain things about both flat and clipless pedals, but they both offer very different riding experiences.
Today we test a set of magnetic pedals that may offer a great mix of the two! The Magpeds look pretty interesting... Some say these are a great middle ground between clipless pedals and flat pedals, since they offer the freedom and safety of flats with the security and “connected” feeling of clipless pedals.
I haven’t tested these pedals long term, but today in the span of a few hours, we’ll see if these pedals are all they’re cracked up to be.
This video was absolutely NOT sponsored by Magped. I just thought these were really interesting and wanted to dedicate a few hours to getting to know them and giving my thoughts.
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I have been watching Seth for almost 5 years now, way earlier than when I started mountain biking. And yesterday, with all money I've saved up over the summer, I bought my first ever MTB, also a full suspension. You know a RUclipsr is good when you've watched most of his videos for years without practicing the sport/hobby yourself.
Congrats on getting the bike! Have fun!
Congrats on your purchase and have fun. Invest in a good helmet and knee pads tho
@@raupenimmersatt6906 Won't be riding any more downhill this season so my XC-helmet should work great until next year.
Yoo, good luck dude. Have fun. I'm also saving up for real mtb
Have fun dude!
Those *old* style ‘toe cage’ straps that installed over top of the pedal and you slid your foot into it - those were called ‘clips’. Eventually a new style of lock-in pedal - where you connected a metal cleat to a receptacle - was invented to replace the ‘clips’. That’s why they’re called ‘clipless’.
Yes this it, we called them traps and straps.
Beat me to it. I used to ride these back in the 90's, and broke my collarbone because of them.
This man speaks the truth.
@@mikeriley1475 yikes
just seems so bizarre that the bike industry hasn't moved on and come up with a less confusing name; bike shop staff must get fed up every time a customer says "so let me get this straight, these things are called clipless pedals but I have to clip in to them?"
Just picked these up last week, getting the magnet height set right takes a good deal of trial and error, but once i got it right they are really cool. I am coming from road clipless but dont have the confidence to go clipless yet on a Mountain Bike so these Magpeds are the best of both worlds. Easy to bail and can get my foot in a repeatable pedal stroke position.
Thanks for the report! This helped me
I am in the same boat, I have the Hustle Bike REMTech Mag Pedals and I love them on my downhill bike. They don't have enough pull to really torque them on a technical climb, so I removed them from my trail bike.
@@OldAZMountainBikerInMA Thanks for the info. Not being as effective on grinding up or through technical terrain is a deal breaker for me. I live next to a vast trail system famous for rocks and roots. Also been riding SPD pedals since 1990 so it doesn’t sound like magnets would work for me.
Have you found an issue with magnetic debris getting stuck to the magnets? I feel like I'd really like some kind of cap to the magnets so you can easily remove anything that got sucks to the magnet on the trail
@@hazard7732 I have never had anything metal get stuck to my pedals on the trail. In the shop, that's a different story.
Been riding these for months. The key is to use a DH “flat” clipless shoe like the shimano AM5. Due to the flat style of the shoe, the inside pins get grabbed and all the pins sit into the shoe evenly instead of some being on cleats while others are in between.
These are really good on an aggressive hard tail or smashing through chunky sections. I love them.
That’s right. They should develop their own shoes to match with the pedals. The grip must be mainly on the pins while the magnetic feature must keep pedals sticked to the feet on the air and of course help with the extra grip
Riding MagPeds for two years now. With strongest magnets and thickest plates they hold my feet glued to my bike while in air. These are awesome! Moreover, they make pedaling uphill easier, while I can also pull as well as push. The best thing about them is when I crash, my bike safely detaches from me not to land on my spine. 😅
How does the detach or unclip experience compare? I ride clipless in my road bike but feel nervous about doing so on mountain because I have to unclip with much less notice, and also be sure to unclip with the right foot for a spot on the trail.
@@dannystaten5701 I have never tried “clipless” to be able to give a valuable comparison, but it does take 0.1 of a second to detach my foot. You can pull your foot away from the bike and you’re free. I have never struggled to unclip, even in a case of emergency or sudden stop.
@@dannystaten5701just for the record I had never used clipless pedals before putting them on my Mtb.
I have never had problems with clipping out on the trail. It’s super quick and natural. I have never thought about unclipping when crashing, it just comes of when you pull your foot to the side.
Also every single time I have crashed the clips have come undone. It’s just like ski bindings, if you crash they’re off before you even realize.
I felt the same way for the last 12 years… Until they didn’t release when going OTB in a shoot and my foot ripped out of my shoe resulting in many foot breaks and tears of a couple tendons now I can only ride flats beciase I can’t comfortably make the twisting motion.. these seem like then can provide me with that clipless feeling but with the convince of being flats for taking my feet on and off.
Im not sure my knees could trust it. Havent checked the weight capacity of these magnets but the thought of them detaching while at full pull and my knee going into my bar at full energy output is a scary thought.
been using the V1 Enduro Magpeds for 9months and they worked well. Just needed lil bit of tweaking at first(pins placement and magnet height). Also note that Magpeds has specific recommended shoes listed on their website to get the most out of these pedals.
My son was struggling with foot placement on his platform pedals but he wasn't confident enough to go to clipless. I got him a pair of these pedals and they've been awesome. Perfect combination for what he needed. As Seth indicated, he can just get on the platforms and go especially if we're starting out on something a bit sketchy. But then he can find the sweet spot and "attach" very easily. It's truly been a game changer. Also, I can say the service and response from their customer service email has been outstanding.
I have two friends riding Magped since they appeared and they're more than happy with them. It's gold if you started MTB on flats and want that security of clips on DH trails.
This will be a game changer if they make different strength magnets for those who want more or less "clipped in feel"
Definitely an awesome idea and amazing that no one thought of this sooner
they have two types of magnets
You can just space the magnet abit further from the Plate and get less strong pull. No need for different magnet strengths or sizes
They offer different magnets and metal plates
What he means is that even the strongest magnet in the best setting isn't strong enough for some people
Needs "full on reclaimed hard drive magnet" mode
Flats will always be the og, it doesn’t matter what shoe you are wearing you can just grab your bike and ride.
facts ❤
Wrong. I've been clipped in for 25 years, that's what's normal to me.
@@jeffrogers2180 that’s not the OG though
@@TraviNomotion quit saying og. It's silly.
@@jeffrogers2180 🤓
I started out road cycling back in the day and not being clipped feels weird, but being off road has make me question it. I think this technology is interesting.
“Clippled” I like it
A good pair of flats, and a good pair of shoes will make you feel almost clipped in. I ride clipless on my drop bar bikes and flats on the dirt.
@@chug2176 Oops haha.
@@fifthcircle1 Yeah, even when the trail looks sketchy you can still full send without much worry.
Me too, but there's nothing worse than pulling out of a clipless pedal on a crank upstroke and just about kneeing yourself in the face ( eg speedplays ), so I reckon the mags would drive me nuts there. I'd be modding them for two magnets on one side for double the clamp power, and extending the metal "cleat", then they become like those caged one sided SPD pedals Shimano etc put out...hmmmmm
Big props to seth for explaining the difference between the pedals super clearly and easy to understand
The best thing about clipless pedals for me is:
You dont have to think if youre going to shoot of your pedal like with flats and since i put clipless on i have alot more controll in the rear i can push the bike into the corners unlike flats that i rode before
For bikepark stuff i will most definitely say hello to flats but local trails are very xc-ish so clipless is my saviour there
Bought the early version when I saw them at Whistler (only 1 mag on one side of ped) then upgraded to the new stronger version with 40# magnets on both sides of pedal. Not a highly skilled rider so having the ability to get free a little quicker when in trouble has been great. Really help keep me on my pedals in the rough stuff. Also appreciate the assist when climbing.
Been using the Magped Enduro V1 pedals for over a year now and love them. It does take some time to get them dialed, and if you change shoes you have to do some readjustments. But, once dialed they are great! I’ve used them on long pedal days and enduro races and I can’t imagine using anything else. You really do get the best of both worlds. I want to try the V2 pedals as I’ve seen they’ve made some improvements and want to test those out!
Have you done an actuall side by side comparison to see if they actually help or not. To me these just seem not at all worth it over clips or well pinned flats.
@@corail53 I still have flats on my ebike. And I tried clips for about 6 weeks so yes I’ve compared all the pedals. The only reason I still use flats on the ebike is because the weight and stability of the ebike keeps me more planted. Plus the extra torque on climbs means I don’t need the upward pull from the pedals.
so glad you did this video. i came across those several months ago and wondered how well they work
I've been waiting for a trusted review of these! Thanks Seth.
Where the magnet mounts to the pedal, the platform holding the magnet could have some offset holes or a slot, so you can move the magnet left or right. That would fix the foot position and have you make contact with inner pins.
Now that I think about it, the old CLIP pedals I rode pre-90's (road) actually had some good things about them. Consistent position, and depending on the shoes and strap tightness you could hit a nice balance between control and easy bail-out.
Been watching you on RUclips for quite a while. One of the best RUclips channels ever. Seth you are a true inspiration to mountain bikers of all skill levels. Keep doing you thing cause its truly unique and special Berm Peak Peak is an awesome trail. you are an amazing content creator.
Seth, you always bring the best content and show us in a fun and engaging manner. Thanks for all you do, homie!
for bike touring, for long time, i was using clipless-platform hybrid, but found myself riding in sandals and flipflops more over the years, also as mentioned, shoes with cleats are slippery, also the clip-in side of the pedal turned out to be slippery too and more a pain than benefit. Two years ago I went full platform and don't regret it 😁
Slippery? All my MTB shoes I've used over the years were grippy as hell, on both flat surfaces and offroad. Maybe touring is different, but when I'm pusing the limits on my race bike or MTB I am tired of regular shoes quickly.
@@GerbenBol I think he means slippery off the pedal as in normal walking as in the video stated.
Touring, I still luv toe clips!!! (Plastic cages with straps)
The big benefits of clipless for me is not getting bounced of, followed by additional power in sprints. Which is why all my bikes have flat pedals, I don't really care about those situations too much with commuting/touring/non competitive road riding.
I'm a Amputee on the left side and have been searching for the best pedal giving me solid location and security on the prosthetic side. Magped makes pedals for road, mountain and gravel and have tried all 3. Absolute location was the problem with all 3 for me. I think they are a very cool idea and I'm not giving up on them, but as you noted there is a learning curve. The Wahoo Speedplay with the less firm cleats are working the best right not. I can get the prosthetic clipped-in without looking down. It's weird when you have no textile feeling below the knee. I do have some ideas for modes to the Magpeds to make them work better. I have a small fortune invested in the 3 styles and want to make something work.
Have you tried the Hustle bike labs Remtec magnetic pedals? I've heard really good things about them and I'm about to order a pair...
do you have tried the positioning plate for the magped pedals? they will do it so it snaps everytime to the same spot.
@@yunan9760 I will have to give this a try.
@@fathertime209 I have not. I will look into this.
i’ve never even done any mountain biking but i watch all of your videos because they are so entertaining and interesting and well made!!! thanks seth
I was literally thinking about magnetic pedals yesterday at Ride Kanuga! I ride a hardtail, so every time I've been to Kanuga, I woud always have my feet come off the pedals on the technical trails. this review basically confirmed that magpeds can work for me. Thanks Seth!
I ride a 36" Unicycle long distances, and I was looking at these pedals. I ended up going with Pedaling Innovations XL pedals using long pins. Took me two months to get used to the mid-foot position, but now I love the added stability and I feel like my feet are locked on the pedals.
I’ve been looking at those pedals for my large feet. They seem like quality products. I just wish they had the Evos still in stock.
I wish there were clip-in shoes/ pedals for the mid-foot position. If I could find something like that, I might use them on my hardtail.
I also ride 36 inch uni's and i just ride flats with 5tens
@@povadventure5305 Same, but I also ride muni as well as a 36". I remember there was a guy a few years ago (I forget if it was on the uni forums or one of the FB groups) who I think was using these for muni.
And then there are the insane muni riders that use clipless ;)
I'm curious on them for Muni, but they are too expensive to try for me currently.. Good flat pedals and shoes seem to do the trick rather well for me (and a lot of getting bounced of the pedals is a technique issue more than anything), but a tiny bit of extra "locked-in-ness" might be nice.
I love how people are constantly coming out with new, innovative thing and this is one of them. I have 4 bikes. 3 have clip-less and one (my e-mountain bike) has flat pedals. Down the road, I may give these a try....maybe on my e-gravel bike.
Got mine last season, I absolutely love them!
I would agree to your statement of riding style and size, there are probably plenty of scenarios in which the rider would not like them.
I was fresh enough in my riding experience and had never ridden anything other than flats, that these were an easy adjustment for me
10/10 (for me at least)
thanks for the review Seth, I've been on the fence and have been looking into these
These look pretty interesting, I wanna give them a try. And it seems they're not even all that expensive, I would've thought they'd cost much more.
I think I'm gonna get myself a pair of them and put them on my full-squish. Once that's done I'll have to get a pair of clipless shoes too but in the meantime I'll still be able to ride my bike like normal.
This seems like a great concept! I do gravel rides but never went clipless because I am off bike a lot for photos etc and just like my feet being free, but this is something I would try.
Edit to add. Just saw the price tag lol. I’ll wait a few years lol.
My son has been using these for over a year racing in NICA in Utah. He was nervous about mechanical clip in pedals, so we found these. He has really liked them so far. You have to make sure you keep the magnets tight. He has lost two of them after coming loose. This was a good stepping stone into mechanical pedals, because he wants to switch to mechanical next year for racing.
I have been watching Seth for 4 or 5 years now and I love how his channel has grown from cruis ship surfing to berm park. Insane!
I have them now for a bit over a year and i love them. At first it took me a while to figure them out (just like you have to when you are new to clipless pedals). The way i get on the pedals is that i slide my foot over the pedal from the front to the back and this way the magnet clips on the plate at the perfekt position an i have the most grip on it.
I have them on my ebike and on my dh bike. I have the plate as far back on the shoe as possible.
The only bad moment i had with the pedals was when i lost the screw that mounts the magnet on the pedal, so i had to buy the magnet with the screw again. Neverthenless i would buy the pedals again.
I’ve found that a good pair of flat pedals with a concave body solve the issue of losing a foot in high speed chunk. I made it down Kitsuma just as fast as my friend who was riding clipless with no issues aside from losing my frame bag. Had to stop and grab it before continuing.
I found that a concave body is great and comfortable when you pedal like you would while clipped in, but can have the opposite effect when you stand on the pedal with the center of your foot (like Seth does).
Many actually flat pedals can be converted to a concave shape by using shorter pins in the center and longer ones towards the front and rear of each pedal.
concave pedal makes all the difference in the world with flat pedals
@@SecretSpots I agree completely. I swapped my 3 year old Deity Compound V2’s out for Deftraps in the spring and the difference was insane.
Yeah, I run TMACs with Five 10 Freerider Pros and I've never had a foot come off in high speed chunk. The only times I've had a foot come off is on rare occasions when landing a jump or drop or bunny hop. My last TMAC vs shin incident was just off a basic bunny hop trying to hop over a mud puddle
your videos are always the best bro.. always so much info and good advice.. Keep up the amazing content brotha!!!
They look good! I’m going to order some on Friday. I found the good price with free shipping, so it’s definitely worth a try. Thanks, Seth. You’ve found something cool I think.
I’ve been running the v1 version for almost the whole race season and I love them. They do take some tinkering to get them dialed in and also had to try two different shoes to see what fit better. They also sale two different plates if anyone wanted to know. My honest review is that to me they are the best of both worlds once dialed in. Cheers!
What shoes did you find worked best
I’ve been using Hustles magnetic pedals for about 7 months and like them a lot. I’m able to get my foot more centered and the magnet is a lot larger. I use them with a pair of crank brother stamp speed-lace shoes. I’ve used both flats and clipless and have found magnetic pedals to be a nice middle ground. My only complaint with them is weight and is can be tricky getting that “locked” in feeling because the magnet will catch even if your shoe isn’t centered exactly. Be interesting to see you review them and get your take.
thanks for the amount of videos you are delivering every week
Brilliant. I love clipless even through winter riding but am trying to transition to flats to improve my fortunes on jumps. This just May be the best of both worlds, would love to try them out.
I like flats more than clipless but am super finicky about my foot position. I often find myself adjusting my foot for too long while getting headed down the trail. I'm super interested in these to help center my foot more easily in my favorite spot on the pedals. Definitely looking at picking up a pair to test them out!
Remtech averys are the better of the 3 MTB magnetic pedals
@@PghMtbRides Would you mind giving more details on why?
I've been on the fence about trying these; after this review I think I'll give them a go. I'm coming from an equestrian background and been a bit terrified to try a clipless pedal as I've had nasty accidents getting dragged by a horse after getting a foot caught in a stirrup, not a fair comparison perhaps, but brains are weird. I do also ride with the ball of my foot on the pedals as well.
"Getting a foot caught in a stirrup..."
This is EXACTLY why clipless pedals were invented & developed by Look in the 80's. As in "Look ski bindings." The developed them so riders would release during a crash. Riders using toe clips & straps with cleated shoes would have their feet bound to the pedal. Sometimes they'd come out, sometimes they wouldn't in a crash. Lots of injuries resulted. But you wanted the power transmission of your foot attached to the pedal. Look solved the problem. And those using double toe straps had even more problems (I used double straps but never suffered any injury as a result).
So it cracks me up to no end to hear people express fears about "crashing with clipless" when they were designed with that very scenario in mind.
But I'll give you this: if clipless pedals freak you out, don't use them. In fact, several studies have shown there isn't as much power increase in clipless as assumed. (Or any, for that matter.)
Just say “whoa” to your bike after you wipe on clipless and it usually will slow down and not drag you too far
Nice vid. I have had problems with flats but don’t like clip less so these seem great!
Thanks Seth!
Used the enduro magpeds in the 200N variant for about a year combined with the stronger and thicker metal baseplates for the shoe. I am totally with you that they feel superb when you actually find that right spot on the pedal. Most of the times though it was hard to align the magnet and the pins on the right spot. That was ultimately the reason for me to switch them against normal OneUP alloy pedals again. With 2 different pair of shoes I wasn't able to find the right spot and adjusting while going down the trail felt cumbersome. In the end I felt "unsafer" and had a couple of crashes when the pins werent touching well and the shoes just slid off the magnet. For me they did not work. I thought I would get better hold on the pedals and a safer, more confidence inspiring ride. The opposite was the case.
I’m terrified of clip-less. Don’t want a mechanical attachment to the bike. But these I wanna try.
That is a legitimate concern. With the right pedals and practice, it becomes a non issue. I can release from eggbeaters about as fast and spontaneously as if riding flats. There probably is a small difference, but they work really well for xc (as opposed to dj etc). Clicking in is fast also once you get used to it. My 9 year old got used to eggbeaters in about 20 minutes... SPDs imho are more fussy. YMMV of course.
They’re actually super easy to get used to and if you need to pull out they pull out of the side pretty easy, almost all the injuries you see from pro downhill racers are because they’re going way faster than the rest of us and they have them as tight as it goes if it’s spd, i’ve been riding clipless for 3 years now and i’ve only forgotten to unclip 3 times, my second day, after i stopped after a drop and just stopping randomly
Yep, full on clipless is a scary prospect. I had old skool clips on my first MTB back in the day. I was 100% used to the flick and push to get in and pull back to get out. Then I got a bike which came with SPDs from the get go. Retraining the muscle memory took a while for sure. In a "getting used to it" ride I did (just tooling about in some scrubland) i got to the top of a very small rise with not quite enough momentum to make it over and in the wrong gear to power over... Just before the top I stalled and muscle memory kicked in... For clips. Feet went nowhere and I fell dead sideways... Into a bramble bush! After that I committed the twist needed for SPDs to muscle memory. The SPDs are long gone for me and flats rule, but i like the idea of these magnet pedals
I was too at the beginning. But they have never caused me any problems in 20+ yrs. of road and mtbing. When I have crashed feet have never got stuck in pedals. I would probably use flats offroad but I never learned to jump on them. 😅
Just ride them on grass a first few times so you don't do a biden. You are probably going to do a biden once or twice but after aprox 20 rides you will never do it again.
One thing you didnt talk about is radius of turn at slow speed. I find flat pedals let me twist my knees out of the way of the frame and handlebars on slow and tight turns. Also bailability is another reason i like flats for MTB.
Great
Hmm, I know many people feel the opposite. On most flat pedal+bike shoe combo’s, once you weight your foot, it’s is stuck. So, you need to unweight yourself foot to rotate it.
On clip-in pedals, you can rotate much easier, but of course, only up to the release point.
Blister said they liked them best with shoes that had the extended cleat slot, to allow the pedal to sit under the arch of the shoe.
I am definitely intrigued by these. I’ve been riding the DMR Versa pedals for a year now and they have been a great happy medium.
thank you for taking your physical limits into consideration for your review. I have a basic build of being 6' and size 10.5 shoe and may end up getting these because of your review
When I bought my 1st generation SPD, I viewed "clipless" pedals as pedals without those annoying toe clips.
That's exactly where the name comes from👍
While that is the name's origin,
Since those toe clips are almost nonexistent nowadays, it's just stupid to still call these clip less pedals. Especially when everyone still says "clipping in" when talking about "clipless" pedals.
@@sebastianjost they aren't quite nonexistent yet. Just ask Joe.
Can't remember the last time I saw old skool toe clips (except in my soares box! Lol)
I used those Zefal half clips for a long time before going clipless. It was like a clip without a strap so it would keep your foot centered but getting out was easy. My wife still uses them on her bike.
Curious to see your opinion on these as I'd consider myself to have a similar riding style but can't seem to commit to clipless
@@MD.media01 definitely something to consider I suppose
I ride SPD clipless with my MTB, gravel and road and ride year round. Just recently started riding fat bikes in the winter and snow certainly gets gummed into the cleats. You now got me thinking of these...
I’ve been running them on my MTB for a year. There are a bunch of issues with them that come from not being able to adjust the magnet or plate side to side and the engagement you get from the pins depending on the recess in the bottom of your clip shoe (can we just call them clips now?). I do think they’re half way between clips and flats but the adjustment problem is real.
Don't reply to the above. It's not Seth. It's a scammer....
@@gordoncahill1170 I reported it so I don’t see it anymore. :-)
Toe-clips are still around, certainly not very popular outside of touring bikes, but you can still buy new toe-clip pedals. Some velodrome racers still prefer the clip, but clipless has largely taken over. So yes, you can call them clips and people will know what you mean, but the name clipless remains accurate as long as the toe-clip is still around.
@@bk83082 Thanks for that, Ben. I don’t ever really think of toe-clip pedals except for when RUclips channels I follow talk about clips and feel that they have to explain the confusing name. I feel like “toe clip pedals”, “clip pedals”, and “flats” are clear enough but maybe there’s another name / set of names that wouldn’t require constant explanations?
Would have been interesting to hear how good the shoes are to walk in with those plate-cleats, compared to SPD. I wonder if they couldn't have given the plate a rubber coating, to mitigate the problem of slipping on stones (which is a main reason for me against using clipless on most MTB rides).
I have both and you can’t feel a difference
The problem with a rubber coating is that if you make it to last any amount of walking it has to be quite thick and unfortunately the power of magnets gets weaker very fast once there's any distance between the two parts that are supposed to stick together.
@@TeKaMOTO the rubber coating would probably also need to be quite thick (min. 1-3mm) to have any significant benefits for preventing slipping.
Otherwise any stone wold immediately compress all the rubber and basically make contact with the metal underneath anyways.
(And the rubber would wear off be quickly)
I have seen rubber/ plastic covers for road SPD shoes before though.
Maybe putting some tape on the magnet would help slightly without loosing to much magnetic strength
In the city you would want to avoid manhole covers or storm grates.
always love you vids.. and this topic is a big one.. thanx for your info?advice brotha.. I love my new Boa ride concepts shoes.... i see u wearing them in vid... How do u like them? im in love.. and even like them more then my trusted crank bro mallets... The ride concepts are soooo comfortable and the grip is off the charts
Great review Seth, I think you’ll like them a lot with a little more riding and twitching time, probably they need bigger magnets and a couple of more pins, I am up to buying them and start using them myself. Again, thanks for your great work, it’s well appreciated.
I have been using Magpeds for about a year now and for me personally they are the best, I have foot and ankle injures in both feet and had big problems keeping my feet on the normal flat pedals, clipless where never a opinion due to the injures.
I had to do some small modifications so that they would work better for me.
I put a thin spacer under the metal plate which you must fix to the underside of your shoe so it would be closer to the magnet.
Then I swooped the pedals over on the spindles so that the magnet is at the back of the pedal which meant I could get my foot more over the pedal and push with the middle of my foot which is less painful for me than using the ball of my foot to pedal.
'Then I swooped the pedals over on the spindles so that the magnet is at the back of the pedal which meant I could get my foot more over the pedal and push with the middle of my foot which is less painful for me than using the ball of my foot to pedal.'
Seth should take notice of this one as he was complaining he liked a more central position as well but wasn't able to. Nice tip, and great to hear this helped people ride their bike ( with less pain?? still sounds like not the best experience sadly :( ).
@@MarvinWestmaas I got it wrong way around, when I swooped the pedals over on the spindles the magnets move to the front position on the pedals which allows me to place my foot more over the pedal.
I’m interested to see if the Hustle pedals are a better fit. I feel like the magped has the magnet in the back of the pedal and forces your foot more into a “ball of your foot” position.
Interesting
I've recently been frustrated by foot position on my flats. This is a great solution!
I love the ideas of these for MTB. I’ve almost exclusively ridden trails with clip-in pedals (only once in Arizona - bad idea with all the cactus around). I was just on some more gnarly trails with short stab climbs that were really chunky and I got stood up a several times. With clips, I really had a hard time getting my second foot set and became frustrated trying to get clipped in so I could use both legs (novel idea) to pedal up the little hills. I was skeptical of these as I wanted to make sure I would be really locked in. This review helped me understand that they might be just enough to hold my foot in place the way I like them to be.
I had that idea in the early 90's when we were taking very small yet powerful magnets out of old 128mb -2gb hard drives
Ideas are nothing without a patent and a plan. Sorry for your loss.
Another source are magnetron tubes from old microwave ovens. REALLY strong.
I like my pedals clipless. No wait clip less. Not less clips. No clips. Clipno. No not clip now. Clip no. Ugh I give up. Gimme the flats.
Very cool idea! As for the pedaling w/ ball of foot bit - that's fairly important for long XC rides. If you pedal with the ball of your foot, then you can use the muscles in your ankles to help pedal more. You can push further into the backstroke and earlier into the forward stroke. Also, it's the best damn stretch in the world. Back when I commuted to school on my bike the first thing I did in the morning once I hopped on was drop my heels and stretch out my calves. Holy moly that stretch is amazing - I wasn't awake until I got that stretch.
Love watching your videos Seth. Keep doing what your doing🤝
I think you missed a pedal option. I've got SPD/flat hybrid pedals. As someone new to clips the 'can start peddling and worry about the clip later' feel is great especially at things like traffic lights. Would recommend to another beginner. Seems like these magnets would feel similar.
I have got a pair of these 50/50 style hybrids on my gravel bike. I ride normal cliples on my mtb, and find them much easier to clip into. With hybrid pedals you really have to pay attention to which side you step onto. Works fine in low consiqurnce situations, like on the road, but not great off off road where you need to be able to consistently clip in quickly. I put up with them on my gravel bike since I use it for casual rides as well as sport riding, but you are definitely sacrificing performance for the convenience of being able to use either style shoe.
Personally I think these 50/50 pedals are about the worst idea ever basically for the reasons stated by @sahjang.
Can’t wait for the Bluetooth pedals
They will come with a HUD to show you RPM foot temp calories burned efficiency lol
@@jamesoy900 that actually sounds useful
I like your presentations. and your interest in teaching / coaching here. as a solo rider, the only other access I have to new info is via very busy mechanics and thrifty store owners / all short of time. thank you.
Another feature is sharing bikes with my daughters who don't have or want clipless shoes. Now they can just take it anytime and I can ride 'clipped' with my shoes using the same pedals. These would also get me to ride my MTB around town more often with vans or flipflops. I'me getting these - and thanks for the great review.
Flats are superior just because you can get on your bike with any shoe and start riding
Overly simplistic. I need a bit of float because of a knee/ ankle injury and find that flats grip too well.
You can ride these with any shoe
@@eb9978 If you are riding these with any shoe then you are basically just riding flats at that point. You need to have shoes that have the capacity for clips in order to mount the plates for the magnets to work. Flats with good pins will have great grip.
Oh jeez. Here we go…
These would function as flats with any flat shoe. So you still have that flexibility. And while they don't appeal to everyone, I think alot of that is pricing. They bridge the gap between clipped n flat very well! I Mena very well!! This year I started riding Downhill/Park, Coming back from an ACL tear I'd been reading mostly on road/gravel. I didn't want to go clipped with spd. And I had to many bad habits for flats. These were a perfect bridge! And were worth every penny, but I get its alot of cash to spend on something to try! I also really appreciate them in bug chunk. Where sometimes a foot gets a bit off. These keep you locked..
I have a 2022 Canyon GC (hardtail) and the first thing I changed were the pedals, with these pedals. I agree, once in a while it feels a little off trying to get locked in, but boy did they change my overall stability on the bike. I love 'em.
Thanks for reviewing this never heard of this type of pedal before.
Run Magpegs for over a year now. Love them. To make them work how i like my foot and my 5/10 hellcat shoes, I swapped the pedals side to side(left to right and right to left) just undid the nut on the end of the spindle and move the platform over. Works amazing now! Give it a try Seth and see if you can get them dialed better.
I’ve ridden these for about a month now. I’ve ridden clipless for about 5 years and I have to say once you get them setup how you want they are pretty amazing. They are so much easier to get out of vs clipless. But it really is all in how you set them up. I did a lot of tinkering to get them right but once they were setup how I wanted I haven’t looked back.
Back in my BMX days I had a set of Airwalk Foster Bros shoes I would use for racing. My foot placement was so consistent that after a couple months you could see exactly where each of the pins would hit. They worked perfectly for that. I never felt that I was going to slip a pedal or anything like that once I got the sole worn in a bit
I've been curious about these for a while now. They're pretty new so I think as long as they keep developing the idea they should get better with time and iteration.
These actually look really interesting. If one could get them dialed, I could see them being an absolute gamechanger. The escapablity and comfort of flat, with the performance benefits of clipless? Sounds heavenly.
When i ride my shoe doesn't reach inner pins , on purpose, not to cause friction from shoe rubbing crank arms. Frees up pedaling resistance, and cranks always look new even without crank skins. This is a grat product in all way explained. Great video as usual.
I’ve tried clipless and failed. Always loved flats. Maybe this will be the happy middle ground. Going to these out! Thanks Seth 🤙🏻
I've been wanting to try these for about a year now. After watching your review. I am leaning more to trying these. I have 9.5/42 shoe size and I am hesitant only for your not being able to get centered on the pedal with smaller shoes. I run Flats, because I have problems clipping in and out of SPD's quickly, especially on sketchy trail situations. Plus I need float especially on my right foot/leg, because a bolt-on knee, which is not perfectly straight. Thanks again for the review.
Nice! Been a sub since like 5k and your videos have always been very informative and they still keep be interested in my bike after all these years. Anyhow, I bet if you used a shoe that had more side to side adjustability on where the steel "cleat" were to mount up to, it'd be able to be positioned towards the outside of the shoe. I think I 'm just like you, i like my foot closest to the crank as possible. Would probably be close to as perfect all around pedal if you were able to rectify the mounting position one way or another.
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I have a paved bike trail right in front of my house(Etobicoke Creek Trail) and when I was a kid me and my friends would race down the path and my foot would constantly be half off, or sometimes slip off completely causing us to crash even if we had good grips on our shoes. We liked it more than the sidewalk because the path has more twists and turns and ups and downs. It also has bridges for us to go under main streets to completely bypass the red lights.
Thank you for the review, I wish it would be longer, more in depth. Longer tests, different sections, jumps maybe. I rode flats for 11 years or soon mtb. clipless only on fixie and gravel. Now last month been trying out clipless on MTB and liked it more than expected, but suspect that these might be just what I need.
Will have to try em
Thanks Seth this helped me a lot
Mavic made a similar system years ago, which I got for my wife after she broke her ankle useing clipless. Was the only way to get her one the bike again. Did buy a second pedal and shoe cause she is loving it. I guess with the pins the Mags do even work better.
Yaaay more Seth vids! Thank you for uploads. Feels like a new episode of my fave show is on, every time I see a new video from you. LOL
Edit: Is there such a thing as "clip" peddles. Cause I know clipless is the ones you clip in, but is there an actual "clip" peddle?
Hey Seth, I'm a 65 year old mountain biker that has been mtn biking since the mid 80s before front suspension was even something the average consumer could get. And Power Grip pedal straps, or LOL, toe-straps, were the only clipless choices. I know you don't ride an ebike, but these mag pedals could be the perfect solution for ebike riders. The ability to get the proper motor torque assistance climbing techie chunk utilizing pulling motion is important. I presently ride clipless Stamp II"s because I need to be sure to manipulate my 37 pound RISE ebike to clear curbs, rock ledges, or wide gaps. Otherwise, there is risk of pinch flat or rim damage, or even an abrupt, dead stop. When the unexpected stop does happen, If I don't release, then I will most likely hurt myself, or my damn pricey ebike, on sharp rocks or whatever. The magnetic pedals would be a much better solution for a sure release when needed in an emergency situation such as this. I'm a little scared of the flats I just recently started using because I also love to hit and send jumps. If I land and crash without my foot in the right spot because the jump bucked me a little,,, then that's bad news for my 65-year-old body. I liked your video, and watching it has convinced me to pull the trigger for purchasing the mag-peds. Hope they mount onto my pricey Stamp 11s. I hope my take on it was interesting.
Hello Seth,
I’ve been threatening to purchase a bike for years, just haven’t pulled the trigger as of yet. We used to live in southern AZ, now NM where it’s a bit cooler…
I just subscribed to both of your channel’s and I’m overwhelmed by all of the new things I’m learning, this type of peddle is fascinating to me. Im thinking I’ll probably be on/off pavement but not a dedicated MTB style. Looking at a Kona Dr Dew as I think it’ll work for my needs…
BTW I’m getting a lot of advice from my younger brother who’s worked at a bike shop in State College PA for several years.
I've been using these for a while, love them and haven't had any problems yet.
Tried clips 3 times and can never feel confident on them. However using them I saw a massive advantage on rough sections. I’ve now been using magpeds for 3 months and absolutely love them. It’s the perfect in between
Thanks for the post Seth!
Thank you for featuring this technology! I have significant nerve damage in one leg andnthis may be just the trick to help me keep me from losing my footing on chunk.
It's not really new technology but if it help ya get back out there why not.
Magped - love them. feels like a "normal" flat pedal, and with a strong enough magnet, you can as well pull on the pedals. I just abstain from mounting the pins to enable foot movement and preserve my shins.
Thanks for the great video! These magnets look very interesting and worth a try. I've always ridden clipless but in recent years am finding I need more float than SPD cleats allow. The ability to move my feet a greater range while still being attached is a solution I've been looking for. I do routinely pull up on the pedals to compensate for a bad knee. Not super hard but more than a gentle tug. If these will really let me do that without my shoe suddenly popping off the pedal, I'd say that's a win.
Yes, I get your win-win conditions . But to me , the stability on the pedals in a rough gnarly terrain matters the most. Me too have always been clip-less SPD (or earlier Crank Brothers). And I am considering them now, but I am still hesistant.
As a person that doesn’t ride bicycles but am still interested in this channel, thank you for explaining that clipless pedals= pedals that you clip into. Never would have thought that.
A few years back, I 3D printed some inserts that fit into my platform pedals and held multiple neodymium magnets. I also 3d printed a “cleat” that had the same array of magnets. By adding or subtracting magnets, you could get grip wherever you needed it on the shoe. Only downside is that the shoes attracted metal and kept getting clogged up with random nails and staples. But they felt nice to ride when they were clean.
the grabbing metal objects problem seems unavoidable, i think it might be the biggest problem
Great content as per. Personally i like flats for the same reasons you gave but these maybe worth a look!.
Question...what model Poc helmet are you wearing?
I got the one-sided magnet ones on my gravel bike and I think it's the perfect fit for this. Want to try the ones you have in the video on my enduro. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Great tips thanks! I might try the avery remtech ones . do you have any thoughts on those?
Good video I've always been curious about magpeds. Two areas I've always thought these might have issues that were not addressed are weight and durability. Neodymium is both very dense and very brittle. Just wondering if you have any thoughts on the added weight, and if there's much risk of the magnet taking an impact, as I know it's easy to break those magnets in half.
Seth’s channel has changed so much. The hacks and reviews have taken over. I miss Seth riding cool trails like the hood ol days
That’s why I rock hybrids on all my bikes: one side is a traditional flat with replaceable pins, and the other a clipless. Perfect for long XC rides when I want that extra energy transfer with clips, or a casual ride to the brewery in my vans.