Why The One-Legged 'Lefty' Bicycle Fork is So Strong!

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  • @nostaku
    @nostaku 2 года назад +6981

    I've had a few Lefty forks over the years and my usual reply when people mention that it only has 1 side is that "I couldn't afford the other side" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @DinnerForkTongue
      @DinnerForkTongue 2 года назад +227

      That checks out with the price 💸

    • @SimonBauer7
      @SimonBauer7 2 года назад +130

      and then it costs more than most normal forks with both legs...nice comeback though

    • @MichaelRei99
      @MichaelRei99 2 года назад +20

      Good one!😂

    • @joshsekel
      @joshsekel 2 года назад +61

      I always tell people I’m missing the slow half.

    • @DinnerForkTongue
      @DinnerForkTongue 2 года назад +27

      @@SimonBauer7
      Why do you think he couldn't afford the other half?

  • @mfhorgan
    @mfhorgan 2 года назад +2172

    I once ran into three guys on the trail all with lefties. I asked if they all got them on sale or something and as they pedaled away, one of them replied “yeah, half-off”

    • @zborp
      @zborp 2 года назад +45

      💀

    • @Alex-xt9hn
      @Alex-xt9hn 2 года назад +36

      It’s a good joke but it simply isn’t true lol

    • @trwilliams22
      @trwilliams22 2 года назад +112

      Do 3 lefties make a righty?

    • @justinbogart278
      @justinbogart278 2 года назад +90

      He was waiting like 250 miles to make that joke

    • @linusmushroomtips776
      @linusmushroomtips776 2 года назад +4

      man I'm dead 💀

  • @RAYROTHSTEIN66
    @RAYROTHSTEIN66 2 года назад +779

    I was a Cannondale mechanic for the bike shop. That lefty was and still is one of the best engineered forks to be made.

    • @EmergencyInductionPort
      @EmergencyInductionPort 2 года назад +47

      It definitely looks like it's taken a shit load of work and effort into its design to make that actually work but not only work it works well enough to keep it on the market for so long.

    • @chrisrichardson8988
      @chrisrichardson8988 2 года назад +36

      I’ve had mine about 15 years. I treat it like garbage and it just keeps on going.

    • @LangHvitSkyKriger
      @LangHvitSkyKriger 2 года назад +10

      @@poa2.0surface77 With that logic, why not have 4 forks, for extra strength, I've seen 2 fork designs fail and injure the rider, therefore it's unsafe right?
      The answer is the balance of weight vs strength, if the component is overbuilt, yea sure it's going to be way safer, but if every part is overbuilt, it would be too heavy to safely ride, in fact maybe even more dangerous as a heavy bike could crush you underneath it
      The line between being too light, and fragile, and being too heavy but strong is a fine balance, and it would seen that the makers and designers have that very well sorted as the Lefty is well known to be dependable and very strong.
      Each to their own is really the short way of saying it.

    • @UnderscoreZeroLP
      @UnderscoreZeroLP 2 года назад

      Butter knife might be a better word

    • @EmergencyInductionPort
      @EmergencyInductionPort 2 года назад +18

      @@poa2.0surface77 they aren't made for serious downhill mountain biking. That's like saying road bikes are crap because they'd probably break going over big jumps 🤦‍♀️

  • @calvingreen1215
    @calvingreen1215 2 года назад +1171

    It's a shame the inventor of this wasn't referenced in this video, Mike Burrows was a legend who passed away earlier this year in the middle of a cancer fight and never got the recognition he deserved, a truly missed friend. RIP

    • @chazmichaelmichaels88
      @chazmichaelmichaels88 2 года назад +32

      RIP Mr. Burrows.

    • @cv643d
      @cv643d Год назад +4

      Did he invent the Lefty?

    • @calvingreen1215
      @calvingreen1215 Год назад +26

      @@cv643d he invented the mono blade and many other things that are common on bikes nowadays

    • @downallyourstreets
      @downallyourstreets Год назад +7

      I love the posters looks of perplexing disbelief like a caveman looking at a cellphone: “what thing do? How thing work?” I ride but it no fall apart I no fall off” so weird!”

    • @mfstr
      @mfstr Год назад

      Supprised he didn't die riding a Lefty, the designers of the Lefty did not have engineering degrees.

  • @michaelvaracins2858
    @michaelvaracins2858 2 года назад +214

    Great video. I was fortunate enough to be part of the engineering team back at the peak of cannondale's innovative years. The group of engineers working at the time were some of the most dedicated cycling fanatics with a long leash to come up with boundary pushing designs. The amount of engineering brain power behind the lefty was staggering and over 20 years later it remains one of the most memorable parts of my life. It makes me happy to see it still thriving and bringing riding joy to others. You all can ride it confidently knowing it came to life by a group of people who enjoyed riding it as much as they did building it, and by a group of people who would all share a beer after a hard ride while discussing what could be done even better. Ride on and enjoy it.

    • @aeD4RK
      @aeD4RK 2 года назад +5

      Whew,that's an amazing tale you got to tell your grandkids! 😄

    • @600wheel
      @600wheel Год назад

      That’s why there are so many Cannondale buried from embarrassment

    • @downallyourstreets
      @downallyourstreets Год назад

      I’m sorry you are embarrassed Pillipe! Schmuck!

    • @ChrisKiller
      @ChrisKiller Год назад

      bring back the Supermax

    • @garyviljoen9867
      @garyviljoen9867 Год назад +1

      I love mine and won’t swap it for anything

  • @LongPeter
    @LongPeter 2 года назад +630

    Love it.
    I'd have one if they were even remotely cost effective. The only Cannondale product I've ever been able to afford was a track pump. Incidentally, it is also excellent and also only has one leg.

    • @Jokl92
      @Jokl92 2 года назад +4

      Is the lefty actually lighter than a normal fork, or why do people get it?
      He didn't mention that right?

    • @DinnerForkTongue
      @DinnerForkTongue 2 года назад +12

      @@Jokl92
      Pretty much same weight. That one side is severely overbuilt.

    • @EchoMeToo
      @EchoMeToo 2 года назад +2

      They made it affordable by closing the US factory and moving manufacturing to oversee. :-))

    • @DinnerForkTongue
      @DinnerForkTongue 2 года назад

      @@EchoMeToo
      Their government's fault for eschewing industrial production in favor of rentism. The Asians weren't gonna work for nickels forever.

    • @ova578
      @ova578 2 года назад +16

      @@DinnerForkTongue technically it’s not overbuilt it is built just strong enough. Overbuilt implied that they could tone it down and it would still be strong enough, which is not the case

  • @joe__h1
    @joe__h1 2 года назад +1226

    I would be so interested in a video of weird things on bicycles that have disappeared because they were too weird. 😄

    • @aygwm
      @aygwm 2 года назад +65

      A good number of them have been cannondale products lol

    • @kellykim399
      @kellykim399 2 года назад +8

      My vote is for the Softride stem that the Ritchey team rode (and won tons of races on) for so much of the early 90’s. NOT to be confused with the Girvin Flexstem, which lacked the parallelogram design (meaning the handlebars would change angle as it went through its travel, unlike the much better Softride).

    • @smashyrashy
      @smashyrashy 2 года назад +1

      There arent many

    • @mtnmyke
      @mtnmyke 2 года назад +4

      Cough cough, Trust Fork, cough cough

    • @Chuckolicious
      @Chuckolicious 2 года назад +1

      @@mtnmyke Not so fast. You do know the big S bought the IP, right?

  • @AB-NZ
    @AB-NZ 2 года назад +590

    Lefty forks are really common compared to the Righty. Don’t see many of them out there.

  • @Mr89siR
    @Mr89siR 2 года назад +111

    My first non entry level mtb was a carbon f29 lefty. i now ride a full suspension trail bike but use the lefty as gravel/city bike but I still love it and will never part with it. It's way too smooth and I'm still impressed every ride.

    • @SenneMeuleman
      @SenneMeuleman 2 года назад +1

      @onei jike you should ask for a 1 pedal option to lose some weight on the bike aswell :)

    • @downallyourstreets
      @downallyourstreets Год назад

      You smart caveman Senne smart and clever: one pedal huh huh!

    • @SenneMeuleman
      @SenneMeuleman Год назад +1

      @@downallyourstreets it was a guy who lost his leg i think, so i responded that he also needs 1 pedal

  • @alreedyalrighty588
    @alreedyalrighty588 2 года назад +224

    I used to make the aluminum tubes for the head shock and helped develop the sizing for the needle bearing grooves

    • @PedroAndradex
      @PedroAndradex 2 года назад +3

      Wow, interesting! How long did take to develop the Lefty Ocho? What was the most difficult part of the project?

    • @iammoserdealwithit7097
      @iammoserdealwithit7097 2 года назад +13

      alu min ium

    • @sik59rt
      @sik59rt 2 года назад +2

      The grooves that the bearings always fell out of?

    • @Chuckolicious
      @Chuckolicious 2 года назад

      I had the original Super V 1000. Blew literally 5 Headshocks and finally ditched the thing for one of the first Foes LTS frames and threw a Judy SL on it. Gold and wiggly, but at least it didn't blow.

    • @sik59rt
      @sik59rt 2 года назад

      @@Chuckolicious wasn’t the Judy sl just an elastomer and spring?

  • @hammerheartdan6311
    @hammerheartdan6311 2 года назад +90

    Decades ago, I’ve read an article about the lefty in an mtb magazine (i think mountain bike action?), their argument was “it cant be a gimmick if it works well”

    • @armadillito
      @armadillito 2 года назад +4

      A good gimmick is just a USP

    • @felixjones9198
      @felixjones9198 2 года назад +2

      Sounds fair enough!

    • @fragtall
      @fragtall 2 года назад +2

      it works until it doesn't... this product still doesn't make any sense with the pricing and it doesn't seems to be strong enough. I understand why posers get it tho "looks weird and quirky"

    • @downallyourstreets
      @downallyourstreets Год назад

      Posers like Jeremiah Bishop that could outrace you in his sleep on a lefty, and don’t ride it for looks either. The Lefty is an ugly fork, not even a real fork, more of a strut really, but its performance benefits blow other forks off the trail with less unsparing weight as well! They are the apple phones of front suspension weird now will take over the future as the morons age out!

  • @MrPtittomtom
    @MrPtittomtom Год назад +13

    Lefty remain my « dream fork » but I’m not a surgeon and I never cross the line to start with Cannondale for all the reason you mentionned.
    And to be really honest, Lefty remain amazing but I was never amazed by the Cannondale frames attached to it.
    Good review !

    • @peacefroglorax875
      @peacefroglorax875 Год назад +1

      I was a bike tech at a cannondale shop a decade or so ago, and saved up about 6 months to order my first "nice" mountain bike. It had to be Cannondale since that's where I worked, and it was an aluminum hardtail with a lefty. So the other way to get one without being rich is to work in a bike shop.

    • @punkazecke3881
      @punkazecke3881 Год назад +1

      nah man fox factory 40. I will never buy it because it's absurd, but still awsome

  • @BlownMacTruck
    @BlownMacTruck 2 года назад +94

    The Lefty is awesome (so was the HeadShok) and I'm going to go out on a limb and say the fork is iconic at this point. It's one of those components that says "screw you I don't care how much you cost, give me the performance".

    • @usmc29er44
      @usmc29er44 2 года назад +2

      People sleep on the Headshok, good stuff

  • @vinny61389
    @vinny61389 2 года назад +175

    I had a friend who had one of those weird mono shocks that were just below the steerer tube. It was also the first bike I saw that had 9 speeds in the rear instead of what I was used to (6).
    Blew my mind in the 90s.

    • @davidbray5982
      @davidbray5982 2 года назад

      Your friends parents must have been minted

    • @TinyT0ny
      @TinyT0ny 2 года назад +2

      talking bout the "fatty" :)

    • @UltaPowderfinger
      @UltaPowderfinger Год назад

      Cannondale had a contest for a "HeadShok" dude in the 90's I thought I looked like the logo they had back then so was going to submit a few photos to the contest but never did. Then it went away. :\

  • @mohenriksen321
    @mohenriksen321 2 года назад +143

    As a mechanic ive seen a few of these pass through my workstand, qlways freaks colleagues out when they see it.
    FYI The previous leftys you didnt have to completely unbolt the caliper but it wasnt tool free, it looked like an IS mount but with lawyer lips, so youd unwind the bolts 3 or 4 turns and slide the caliper and mount out the back. this allowed you to remove the mount without realigning the caliper much like the modern solution but with less one of a kind, breakable mechanisms 😉

    • @themeatpopsicle
      @themeatpopsicle 2 года назад +2

      There was a cam system actuated by 5mm between the keyhole version and the current version. I prefer the one that took a tool, honestly.

  • @nickwarman685
    @nickwarman685 2 года назад +72

    I have drooled over these ever since they came out when I was a kid. Never got around to getting one but seeing one out in the wild is still a nostalgia trigger 👍

    • @joelankeny6277
      @joelankeny6277 2 года назад +1

      Same here. I remember drooling over this fork in Mountain Bike Action magazine when the lefty first came out.

  • @bigroosterman12
    @bigroosterman12 2 года назад +2

    I got a 2004 Cannondale Jekyll with a lefty. Had to ship it across the country to get it rebuilt because hardly anyone will work on it. But it was so worth it. Such a cool shock

  • @honours1980
    @honours1980 2 года назад +4

    I've always been fascinated with these! They look great, just like motorcycle single swing arms!

  • @mattman3495
    @mattman3495 2 года назад +51

    I don't do pedal bikes anymore because the knees are gone, I'm just a old retired Enduro racer who rides street motorcycles. I still wrench on bicycles for friends and family. I'm always learning something from your channel, Thanks for the content.

    • @WorldwideDarts
      @WorldwideDarts 2 года назад +2

      Ever thought about an ebike?

    • @mattman3495
      @mattman3495 2 года назад +1

      @@WorldwideDarts no, I need a 500 mile range minimum for my type of riding.

    • @getstrongby4038
      @getstrongby4038 2 года назад +3

      @@mattman3495 but you can't do 500 miles though

    • @ryzen4368
      @ryzen4368 2 года назад +1

      would you rather 0 miles range or 100 miles range? lol

    • @mattman3495
      @mattman3495 2 года назад +1

      @@getstrongby4038 I do 300 to 500 mile day trips a couple times a week.

  • @peach495
    @peach495 2 года назад +27

    I've got one from 2014. It's an excellent bike. I was apprehensive at first. Then I noticed many airplanes have this configuration on the single front wheel. My thinking then was the engineering was sound & it's not weaker than a duel post.

    • @ashurany
      @ashurany 2 года назад +1

      I don't have a lefty but that was my thinking at first--as I'm sure it has been for many. Good point about airplanes. Anyway, I'm sure the engineering is sound, if because any such problems would have been public long ago.

    • @redwood_shores
      @redwood_shores Год назад +2

      Don't forget you can find this stuff in every car. Actually 4x of the stuff.

    • @chrisakaschulbus4903
      @chrisakaschulbus4903 Год назад +2

      @@redwood_shores Jokes on you, my car doesn't have wheels.

  • @dkd123
    @dkd123 2 года назад +11

    I had one ride last year where I saw two bikes with Leftys. Felt like a blessed day.

  • @1ducatinut
    @1ducatinut 2 года назад +17

    Love my Lefty, I also do my own servicing and have heard my share of “Do you know your missing one side” Mine being a SuperMax is also made of carbon fiber so it’s lighter and stiffer than most forks on the market.

    • @ElevatedVehicles
      @ElevatedVehicles 3 месяца назад

      How do we buy the carbon version? Looking for one for my MTB

  • @tyjexia
    @tyjexia 2 года назад +3

    I picked up a 2006 Cannondale Rush with a lefty fork. I'm not a small person but the fork and the rear suspension work great! It also has the integrated shifter/brake levers, which took some getting use to.

  • @2WheelsGood.01
    @2WheelsGood.01 Год назад +5

    If people only knew commercial airplane wheel carriages are one sided and Ducatis (and other brands) have single sided swingarms. Far more torque and impact in those applications. I absolutely love the way Lefties look and feel. I worked at one of the biggest Cannondale dealers in the US as a mechanic.

  • @AquaMortem
    @AquaMortem 2 года назад +212

    I lost my left leg, so this seems like the perfect fork for me!

    • @rufusconnolly8489
      @rufusconnolly8489 2 года назад +17

      I love your reply XD if we were friends I'd buy you a GPS tracker so you couldn't misplace your other one hehe

    • @laurentp89
      @laurentp89 2 года назад +15

      Yeah @AquaMortem, you should really not be leaving those just anywhere

    • @夏天青-h2l
      @夏天青-h2l 2 года назад +2

      Joke from hell

    • @dz9459
      @dz9459 2 года назад +1

      @@laurentp89 idk seems like a common occurrence

    • @zwenkwiel816
      @zwenkwiel816 2 года назад +1

      I dno, think it'll make you walk funny, unless your right leg is like really short or something

  • @sinclairal
    @sinclairal 2 года назад +10

    My Cannondale has the Lefty Ocho. I literally LOVE it. For all the reasons mentioned here. Light, Responsive, and Stiff. It rides like a butter dream. I actually find it hard to ride "normal" forks now because of the flex they have. The 2 sides flex and cause stiction.

  • @FlyingAceAV8B
    @FlyingAceAV8B 2 года назад +12

    I have the original lefty on my prophet and I love it. I will never sell that bike. I even spent a grand recently updating it to “modern standard” and even found someone capable of re-sealing the lefty after cannondale told me they couldn’t do it. This bike is going to be worth billionssssss one day!!!

  • @fallenover6977
    @fallenover6977 2 года назад +15

    I’ve used them in demo days and they feel amazing, the weight gains are pretty insane too, if I was more into xc and it was cheaper I’d consider getting one

    • @DrewskiTheLegend
      @DrewskiTheLegend 2 года назад +1

      It rides pretty nice. I raced a few days of a 4 day XC race a few weeks ago on a Scalpel Si. I was pleasantly surprised how stiff the dual crown version of the fork was, and how capable it was while descending. I don’t know that I would own one. I’m a mechanic who does almost all of my maintenance myself and I know better than to buy something that requires above average maintenance and proprietary parts. It did exceed my expectations though. It was a much better fork than I expected.

  • @HelloThere-mm2vu
    @HelloThere-mm2vu Год назад +6

    I rode a lefty for 5 years racing XC starting in NICA and now in UCI. I also ride it in Pisgah often and it did very well. It actually performs amazingly, but I feel that its lifespan was really short. I typically had to take it to get serviced by Cannondale, so I ended up owning 2 forks and swapping them out. It performs great, but nobody can service it in just a day, it has to be sent off :/

  • @BlazeOffRoad
    @BlazeOffRoad 2 года назад +2

    I had a lefty and LOVED it! I was very hesitant but after research I ended up buying it and rode it enought to go through two rebuilds on it. Three or so years and a more than a few thousand miles.

  • @pympin87
    @pympin87 2 года назад +68

    i kinda want to see what would happen if they re-released the downhill version of the lefty that had both legs

    • @borthwey
      @borthwey 2 года назад

      I want to see a downhill or enduro version of the XC lefty. Just beefed up and scaled up. It could only be limited by the reduced space for the spring and damper.

    • @ПростоАнатолий-в5в
      @ПростоАнатолий-в5в 2 года назад +1

      @infomercial enjoyer :D

  • @subiesojourner777
    @subiesojourner777 2 года назад +5

    My wife and I had Vespa GTS scooters and the first thing I noticed when deciding what brand to buy, was the front suspension system (which is similar) until I talked to many folks who had them and the Vespa history as to how they came about. We've never had one issue with our Vespa's.

    • @sd3457
      @sd3457 2 года назад

      Plenty of classic scooter racers swap them out for double-sided Lambretta forks.

    • @downallyourstreets
      @downallyourstreets Год назад

      Cuz they are wimps and lose most of their races. Why do people spend more money to lose?

  • @timanderson8302
    @timanderson8302 2 года назад +120

    As an actual Anaesthetist I can guarantee that we are all huge geeks, and have an absolute compulsion to know how things work and how to take them apart! Nevertheless... I'll stick with my lyrik 😂

    • @jfaust97
      @jfaust97 2 года назад +6

      I find it funny he's wealth shaming people.... while standing in front of his $1.1M house! LOL

    • @armadillito
      @armadillito 2 года назад +9

      @@jfaust97 he;s more lifestyle-shaming than wealth shaming. Not everyone who gets rich responds the same way.

    • @alexsmtbfriends4954
      @alexsmtbfriends4954 2 года назад +3

      Can confirm this, almost like therapy to service the bikes. But I don't do "plastic surgery on knees", lol, so I can't buy into the Lefty crowd. They roll great, but can't stand the idea of calliper dismounting and special hubs. I'll stick to Fox.

    • @gnarwhaladventures5824
      @gnarwhaladventures5824 2 года назад +4

      Fellow anaesthetist and owner of two Lefty equipped bikes. I'm am one of those people that think Cannondale are a massive bunch of dicks for not making service manuals and tools available, cause I would like to service my own.

    • @greengoat5654
      @greengoat5654 2 года назад +3

      I thought it was anesthesiologist....

  • @bencymo1
    @bencymo1 Год назад +5

    One thing I notice when I owned a Lefty bike was the mid corner sensitive. Where a normal fork would bind up with side load the lefty kept absorbing. My line for when people said it was missing the other side or thats not safe was to say “Have you ever seen a car with a dual sided fork for suspension?”

    • @ebouwman034
      @ebouwman034 8 месяцев назад

      Cars have way more visible arms and things to accomplish it though. Not calling the lefty unsafe or anything, its just that you can look at a double wishbone setup and see all the components and it looks intuitively solid. The lefty doesn't intuitively look like it's as strong as it is.

    • @ano_nym
      @ano_nym Месяц назад

      @@ebouwman034 you could compare it to a Ducati 998

  • @darealpython
    @darealpython Год назад

    I have 6 Lefty ocho/oliver in the family! been a fan for 22+ years!!! fixation was instant and forever! it is by far the best suspension solution EVER!!!

  • @inot2381
    @inot2381 2 года назад +17

    i have a 2016 cannondale jekyll with a carbon lefty and 160mm of travel an it is the absolut best fork i have ever tried and i also find it sad that only very few companies still do such cool and wild stuff like cannondale with their suspension. it is also sad that the new jekyll has lost all its character is basically just a downhill bike compared to the old ones which were winning ews bikes

    • @fragtall
      @fragtall 2 года назад

      you still didnt break it? not even a little bend? do you ride or do you pose?

    • @inot2381
      @inot2381 2 года назад +1

      @@fragtall No, why should i pose with a almost 7 year old bike? But i have taken it down my local ixs downhill track as well as a few alpine bike parks and i do regular enduro rides. I also do not think that bending is much of an option for a carbon fork... but i need to say that i have the old version of the lefty with the double crown.

  • @joren7653
    @joren7653 2 года назад +4

    Really adds something to the channel that its now possible to review different kinds of bike brands👍👍

  • @zoppotromp1958
    @zoppotromp1958 2 года назад +4

    physically genius, especially the older dual crowns. miss it in my modern bikes.

  • @juliocesarpereira4325
    @juliocesarpereira4325 Год назад +1

    I have two bicycles with Lefty forks: one is mounted on a Jamis Komodo frame. It is one of the oldest Lefty models, maybe the second. It was serviced about four years ago and the technician (not Canondale) told me it had never been serviced before! And it was alright for me. The second Lefty is mounted on a late 1990s monostay frame. I believe that when this frame was manufactured, there were no Lefty suspension forks on the market yet. Although this frame was originaly made for 26" wheels, it easily acceptes 27.5" ones. This Lefty fork was propably manufactured in 2010 or so. It has never been serviced as far as I know. I am a huge fan of Lefty forks. These two I have are still the best ones I've ever used.

  • @RyanMinney
    @RyanMinney 2 года назад +58

    I worked for a cannondale shop in the 90’s. The lefty was created because even though headshox were superior to normal suspension they were insanely heavy.
    So the lefty was born a normal weight headshox.
    They are insanely smooth and require little to no maintenance
    It’s the best designed front suspension ever.

    • @Blox117
      @Blox117 2 года назад +3

      just get a unicycle

    • @robertm.6583
      @robertm.6583 2 года назад +1

      Mine broke twice and I didn't abuse it. It is a piece of junk as far as I'm concerned

    • @RyanMinney
      @RyanMinney Год назад +8

      @@robertm.6583 working in a bike shop it was always amazing the amount of peoples front wheels that just “Fall off”.

    • @maxdewaele9660
      @maxdewaele9660 Год назад +13

      @@RyanMinney or "i didnt even crash it or anything" meanwhile the frame and wheels are bent

    • @RyanMinney
      @RyanMinney Год назад +9

      @@maxdewaele9660 “I was just riding down the street…”

  • @architeki
    @architeki 2 года назад +10

    There is a video explaining how a lefty stays active when a torsion force is added to the mix. I think that is what makes the ride quality difference and not just the initial stick.

    • @RPD_ps
      @RPD_ps 2 года назад

      Do you have a link? I'm curious. It does seem key, I'd think that once torsion enters the equation the fork wouldn't slide smoothly.

    • @robertmisiuk7137
      @robertmisiuk7137 2 года назад

      @@RPD_ps There is a reason it is a lefty and not a righty.

    • @brucemcginty9751
      @brucemcginty9751 2 года назад

      There is no initial stick benefit… the lefty still has fork seals. He is just an idiot

    • @romka_ind
      @romka_ind 2 года назад

      Yup a solution to a problem that no body cares about :) except those geeks that got caught on that marketing bait :)

  • @avlehtine
    @avlehtine 2 года назад +11

    The needle bearings on the Lefty do not replace the seal (otherwise they would be full of crap after a ride), but one of the bushings. Both this and the advantages of a USD system could be integrated into a two-legged fork.

  • @alexdi1367
    @alexdi1367 2 года назад +18

    A key advantage is that there's no stiction when loaded from the side. A telescoping fork is smooth enough in a parking lot test, but it binds with off-axis loading. The Lefty is just as smooth in the middle of a turn as it is on level ground.

    • @fluffycat087
      @fluffycat087 2 года назад +1

      Oh yeah that's why all main motorcycle manufacturers use lefty forks on their bikes. It's all clear now.

    • @romka_ind
      @romka_ind 2 года назад +1

      Not an advantage but 23 year old marketing flop.

  • @Paul_M109
    @Paul_M109 Год назад +1

    I remember I was a kid when this came out. Around 6th grade. At that time I lived in the bike shop down the street from my house, loved BMX. Was the wildest thing back then seeing new bikes in the shop with this fork.

  • @FinflazodeTurroai
    @FinflazodeTurroai Год назад +2

    I am a technician. I do not like overcomplicated designs that offer only minimal gains... and usually overcomplicated designs are extremely expensive, too. Another point I do not like is asimmetry leading to bending moments, that will need heavier parts to withstand.

  • @andrewarp1038
    @andrewarp1038 2 года назад +4

    Love the videos Seth. You’re by far my favorite MTB channel on here love the content. Just got my hands on a jersey for my birthday and can’t wait to get out wearing it.

  • @scriptosaurusrex
    @scriptosaurusrex 2 года назад +5

    Canondale have a knack to develop just the coolest things. I remember when we were kids, even though none of us at that point were actual mountain bikers, we all wanted a canondale with a headshock. Just because it looked cool (speak, unusual). Someone, I think, had a red one with the shock cover in yellow, and I remember us all thinking it was such a mean machine.
    The lefty no doubt does the same. Sure, it's actually good, but more than that, it is just recognisable.

    • @KC9UDX
      @KC9UDX Год назад

      The only Cannondale product I had was a Velcro water bottle holder. It was awesome.

  • @th3gughy
    @th3gughy 2 года назад +9

    Man I love a lefty! I've never had the chance to try one, but the engineering and ingenuity behind it is brilliant.. I'm always happy to see one, but I agree with the main issue: the price probably makes it unaffordable to the most.. but, ehy, it works for Cannondale so it works for me! Still love its unique and quirk look !!

    • @peach495
      @peach495 2 года назад

      I got my 2014 half way through 2015 for $1,400, including the warranty.

    • @user-qb7vv6lf1y
      @user-qb7vv6lf1y 2 года назад

      Thanks for commenting you have been selected among my bicycle winners🎁

  • @megabeatmanmania
    @megabeatmanmania 2 года назад +1

    Genuinely intrigued...I'll come back to this video thank you. 🙇‍♂️

  • @radarmusen
    @radarmusen 2 года назад

    That gave me a good answer to all my questions about how it not was braking or was flimsy in the turn.

  • @Utahconnectrealestate
    @Utahconnectrealestate 2 года назад +3

    I have a Scalpel with a carbon super Lefty 130. That bike will pretty much out handle any other XC bike and descends scary fast. Not for everyone, but perfect for some 😅

  • @philip9175
    @philip9175 2 года назад +13

    i think the reason they've stayed around for so long is because they are a Cannondale product so they keep developing it and speccing it on their bikes. If Lefty was a standalone product from another company i'm not sure if it would've stayed around as long as it has

    • @JP-xd6fm
      @JP-xd6fm Год назад

      I didn't know you can buy it for other bicycles. A lefty always has the Cannondale name atached for me

    • @Crackrocksteady
      @Crackrocksteady Год назад

      @J P yeah my buddy built a custom Norco and the only way he could get a lefty was getting a complete ex cop Cannondale bike from auction

  • @gerrygamez
    @gerrygamez 2 года назад +6

    I own two Cannondale bikes with Lefty forks (Flash MTB and Bad Boy Trekking/City) and I kinda like the looks and comments I get :D And as you said, the suspension is so damn good.
    Also servicing isn't that bad. You just need the right tools (which Cannondale won't give out to consumers tho...).

  • @jaymueller2418
    @jaymueller2418 2 года назад +2

    I raced on several versions of the lefty. The advantages in stiffness and low static friction were most apparent in the forks that had the rubber baffle. The big issues with that fork were service life (required a lot of bearing resets) and quality control (about half of them were crap). But it really was smoother and the stiffness was amazing, especially taking hits through corners where it just didn’t twist.
    Cannondale then added a lower brushing and seals and with that came no need to keep the rubber baffle but increased static friction. In that time, modern dual leg forks have also increased their performance hugely and I don’t think the lefty is worth the hassle as there is no longer a big performance difference.

    • @ameunier41
      @ameunier41 2 года назад

      With the seal I hope it needs less maintenance.

  • @malayneum
    @malayneum 2 года назад

    cannondale dealer in my place even advised me not to service the ocho unless there is major issue with it. but after a year i still love it. its super stiff. and the stare and comments you got from others are priceless. 😁

  • @beandip007
    @beandip007 2 года назад +8

    I love my 20 year old lefty, although I would love to see how you can modernize it.

  • @CinimodMG
    @CinimodMG 2 года назад +8

    I miss my lefty! Still have an old Cannondale with a Headshok though.

  • @AlexandarHullRichter
    @AlexandarHullRichter 2 года назад +11

    I'm now working at the 3rd Cannondale dealer I've been with, and I've had this conversation a few times:
    It's just like a McFerson-strut. If you take an old car with strut suspension, and take the wheel off, it even looks the same. The biggest difference you can see in that case is that a car usually has a coil spring on the outside, while a lefty has an air spring on the inside.

    • @leonardhpls6
      @leonardhpls6 2 года назад +3

      Ah yea because everyone knows what a mcferson strut is and how they work 🤣

    • @autobotavengerfireballxl5339
      @autobotavengerfireballxl5339 2 года назад +1

      Old car? new cars still come with struts pal old cars came with torsion bar coil and shock coil suspension

    • @paradoxworkshop4659
      @paradoxworkshop4659 2 года назад +2

      Aaaannnd...
      MacPherson struts will spin when not supported by the rest of the suspension... So just round tubes inside round tubes...

    • @AlexandarHullRichter
      @AlexandarHullRichter 2 года назад

      @@leonardhpls6 pretty much everyone who has bought a car since 1970 should know what they are, or have at least heard of them, as it's been a setting point on every vehicle so equipped since then.

    • @AlexandarHullRichter
      @AlexandarHullRichter 2 года назад

      @@autobotavengerfireballxl5339 newer cars have the axle run through the steering knuckle, so it looks different. On older RWD cars, the axle spindle was part of the strut, so it actually looked just like a lefty when you took the brake off.
      Old is relative, but independent suspension cars have been using struts since the 60s (see Porsche 911, VW Beetle 1978-1980s, VW Super Beetle 1973-when it was discontinued and the Beetle inherited all its features, all unibody Toyotas, etc.).

  • @felipeprenholato2301
    @felipeprenholato2301 Год назад +2

    I think that price vs usability range make it a niche product (exactly how u said), and that don't make it spread into the market. I would love to see one Lefty prepared for bikepacking someday.

  • @Dunwelll
    @Dunwelll 2 года назад +4

    So far, I'm most impressed with the easy tailgate mounting.

  • @keithplumley2054
    @keithplumley2054 2 года назад +5

    I'm happy to see you finally giving Cannondale some love.

  • @laurabaumgras-pearce5699
    @laurabaumgras-pearce5699 2 года назад +3

    I have a lefty! It's also my first mountain bike from this century so it's... my bike. and has ceased to be weird to me.

    • @JP-xd6fm
      @JP-xd6fm Год назад

      Are you a doctor? / I just want to confirm the stereotype.

    • @laurabaumgras-pearce5699
      @laurabaumgras-pearce5699 Год назад

      @@JP-xd6fm no. I work in manufacturing.

  • @johnholloway691
    @johnholloway691 4 месяца назад +1

    My 2010 Cannondale commuter bike came with a rigid lefty fork, and car drivers sometimes ask how I trust it not to collapse, being supported/bolted on only one side. My usual response: "You mean just like your car's wheels?" And it's pretty unlikely anyone will try to steal the front wheel.

  • @Fmily
    @Fmily 4 месяца назад

    My dad has a Cannondale Prophet, which as far as I know is basically a full suspension lefty, and he still rides it. Very interesting bike, cool to learn more about it!

  • @Gilrang_
    @Gilrang_ 2 года назад +10

    I always love seeing lefty's, because they look futuristic. I don't know why, and putting them on your tailgate is mind-blowing! I never knew that, and it makes me want one! I hope the mountain biking community buys more to make it a norm after watching this video. Thanks Seth! 🤘🏾

    • @user-qb7vv6lf1y
      @user-qb7vv6lf1y 2 года назад

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  • @sisaktamas
    @sisaktamas 2 года назад +3

    The Lefty is easily the awesomest piece of bike tech. And second is the headshok. I haven't had a mtb for many years and honestly the only kind I really wish I had was a C-dale with lefty. Maybe a retro C-dale with a good condition headshok. I recently tried out one with a grinding headshok and yes... it was a letdown.

  • @hendrikreuter7215
    @hendrikreuter7215 2 года назад +4

    I love how you describe the potential buyers of the fork!

  • @crimvaxine5802
    @crimvaxine5802 Год назад

    needed this cause the confusion on my face was adamant when I saw a lefty out in the wild. 1st time seeing one, 1st time knowing about it. Heck even the other folks were looking at it confused as well.

  • @paulfletcher3998
    @paulfletcher3998 2 года назад +1

    The late great Mike Burrows who designed Chris Boardman's Olympic gold winning Lotus 108 bike was a big fan of side mounted wheels.
    Mainly because of weight savings reasons I believe.
    Anybody who hasn't ridden one of his machines I'd highly recommend it.
    He just did things differently.
    I've had 2 of his Windcheetah trikes and they were great. Super fast and at the moment I have one of his Ratracer SL recumbents. It's a front wheel drive hub geared recumbent so it's not for everyone but I love it. It's so much fun! The Ratracer's rear wheel is side mounted. Which makes it super light because the whole frame is just one metal tube.

  • @GretaTurdeau
    @GretaTurdeau 2 года назад +4

    Hilarious, this is all common knowledge to me. I used to fully rebuild Leftys' and HeadShocks all the time in the early 2000s.
    And used to jump down huge stair sets on my XC bike with a Lefty. Lol
    Good times.

  • @newoldsteel
    @newoldsteel 2 года назад +10

    honestly I've always been curious about this but glad that you covered it as it was super informative and entertaining! You're always delivering a great video!

  • @Ben_Kasper
    @Ben_Kasper 2 года назад +7

    I want to see someone put a lefty on there yeti. dentist fork on a dentist? Sounds perfect!

    • @MorryB
      @MorryB 2 года назад +1

      Dent-ception.

    • @LastAphelion
      @LastAphelion 2 года назад +1

      How about a Lefty Epocalypse for a hipster dentist

  • @blam3329
    @blam3329 2 года назад +2

    I was fortunate enough to find a pull-off from a Bad Boy years ago for a badass road bike project. That particular fork was rigid and just tall enough for a 700x25. Had to have the front wheel laced for the lefty hub, but the local bike shop had a guy. Turned a LOT of heads.

  • @SgtJoeSmith
    @SgtJoeSmith Год назад +1

    I worked at a bike shop in 90s when lefty 1st came out. and i remember the headshock too. we didnt sell many cannondales. most sales where cheaper raleighs and 2nd most were schwins

  • @blondiejoe
    @blondiejoe 2 года назад +4

    Upside down forks are the standard on performance-oriented motorcycles. I was wondering if that would ever be a thing in bicycles. Pretty cool!

    • @SyndikatChannel
      @SyndikatChannel 2 года назад

      Do you know the DNM USD-8 fork? I have it on my enduro ebike (no jumps)

  • @baddriversofcolga
    @baddriversofcolga 2 года назад +11

    Great video, Seth! I think you should get a Team Marin which is sort of an XC Trail bike and build it out with some nice components and see how light you can get it. And I see that Hardtail Party sticker! Heh

    • @ryanmiskin
      @ryanmiskin 2 года назад +2

      There's a party in the mountains...

    • @koltface
      @koltface 2 года назад +1

      ...and you're all invited!

  • @kristijansolev2485
    @kristijansolev2485 2 года назад +4

    I am deeply offended by Canonndale's side-ism and not also making a Righty!

  • @rajgill7576
    @rajgill7576 2 года назад +1

    I've got a 2005 cannondale scalpel si that rides like it's brand new. I love the thing even though I hardly use it. Special every time I do

  • @AdrianoSaccenti
    @AdrianoSaccenti Год назад +1

    Lefty's been around for more than 23 years. In 1998 lefty suspension forks were already out there and I had one with ELO system (eletronic lockout). 9v battery needed to make the ELO works.

  • @JinthorSama
    @JinthorSama 2 года назад +3

    Single sided swing arms have been used on motorcycles for decades. Cool to see on bicycles now.

  • @downshift83
    @downshift83 2 года назад +4

    I wanted a lefty so bad when i was a kid

  • @cappytheimmortal
    @cappytheimmortal 2 года назад +9

    Not even a fork anymore its a skewer

  • @Qui-gon-gin
    @Qui-gon-gin Год назад +2

    I own a Cannondale super V with an 80mm Headshock, although it isn't a lefty it is extremely similar. Its impossible to deny the stiffness and lightness of it as well as its remarkable response to smaller impacts. The only issue I have with it is that every time a part needs replacing it gets more expensive.

  • @alexbarker7511
    @alexbarker7511 2 года назад +1

    I finally saw one of these at the shop I work at. It was just sitting out there with its dual crowns.

  • @renelopez7325
    @renelopez7325 2 года назад +4

    I’ll be really impressed when they make a single-sided rear triangle.

    • @mrupholsteryman
      @mrupholsteryman 2 года назад

      Especially if one doesn't have to need a master link anymore to separate wheel from frame. That would definitely save some time wrenching...but how much more would it make the other side heavier? But counteracting drivetrain... maybe a non issue. But it would be an interesting thing to see... if I was a machinist with the tools and knowhow.... I would try it! Haha!

    • @niclaskarlin
      @niclaskarlin 2 года назад

      Many motorcycles have that.

    • @mrupholsteryman
      @mrupholsteryman 2 года назад

      @@niclaskarlin many? I only know of the Honda.

    • @mrupholsteryman
      @mrupholsteryman 2 года назад

      @@niclaskarlin vfr.

    • @mrupholsteryman
      @mrupholsteryman 2 года назад +1

      @@niclaskarlinI'll have to do some more research! Haha!

  • @riccochet704
    @riccochet704 2 года назад +5

    Not so much about the "Lefty" but I've always wondered why MTB forks aren't inverted. I grew up riding dirt bikes. Inverted forks were the norm since the 80's. I know there are few "off brands" that make inverted forks. They're insanely rigid. I just feel like there is a market for it.

    • @maxatrillionfatstacks
      @maxatrillionfatstacks 2 года назад

      I wonder if it's a cost to manufacture or a style thing, mountain bike products very much follow trends. I've wondered the same thing myself, manitou has made a DH for that's inverted for a while and DVO makes one too but haven't seen many inverted forks that aren't 100mm or less xc forks from small manufacturers or DH forks. It seems like it would be similar stiffness benefits to having the stanchions at the bottom, so idk why there hasn't been any in the 120=180mm travel range.

    • @RocketMagnetUK
      @RocketMagnetUK 2 года назад +1

      It's been done but the stanchions are more prone to damage and even small nicks can render a stanchion ruined.
      Just look at any MTB with significant miles on them in rough rocky terrain it's hard to find any without the odd little scrape or scuff on the lowers... the same damage on the slider would likely mean you'll need to replace it.
      Yes you can put guards on them like here but it's still more in the firing line so for most people it's a higher risk of very expensive damage IMO.
      So it's all about money as usual and it's probably too much cost for most for the advantages they provide plus most people want a bike to do more varied styles and Lefties have a pure XC reputation so it's a smaller market?

    • @riccochet704
      @riccochet704 2 года назад

      @@RocketMagnetUK Ehhh....I've been riding trail dirt bikes for years and never has an issue. Literally thousands of people hav been as well./

    • @RocketMagnetUK
      @RocketMagnetUK 2 года назад

      @@riccochet704 It depends on the terrain you ride in, the lowers on all by bikes show a fair few minor scuffs and scrapes. So yeah agreed if for instance your just riding well groomed trail centre stuff then you'll probably be fine especially for XC but terrain where your lowers can potentially take hits it's a bit more of a risk.
      I'd say the evidence for this is most if not all MTB forks outsode of XC are not inverted and looking at my forks on all my bikes I'd never buy an inverted for Enduro/Natural MTB... a manufacturer doesn't know the intended main use so they spec for the worst case hence it's only the XC Cannondale bikes that get the inverted all their other disciplines get "normal" fork looking at their website just now?

  • @crispyfilms3983
    @crispyfilms3983 2 года назад +6

    When I first started mountain biking around 15 on my good ol specialized pitch, I had more trust in my sr suntour fork than these lefty’s when I saw them out on the trail. I always thought that they would never hold up to a drop or a jump. I still would never ride one because that idea is ingrained into my brain, but damn, I guess there really is a reason to buying one besides being the one guy on the trail who’s different.

    • @AlexandarHullRichter
      @AlexandarHullRichter 2 года назад

      It's just like the McFerson-strut in a car. On older cars, it even looks the same because when cars were all rwd, the front axle spindle was part of the strut, and it looked just like the lefty's bottom.

    • @kellykim399
      @kellykim399 2 года назад

      The landing gear on commercial airplanes also only have one leg, and seem to handle the repeated stress of a huge plane slamming into the airstrip… if that’s not the biggest example of a “huck to flat”, I don’t know what is… ;)

    • @AlexandarHullRichter
      @AlexandarHullRichter 2 года назад

      @@kellykim399 gear struts usually have one wheel on each side tho, so the forces are more balanced and not as obviously asymmetric.
      I don't think anyone would think a lefty would break if it had one wheel on each side and the bike attached directly over the lefty's shock.

    • @kellykim399
      @kellykim399 2 года назад

      @@AlexandarHullRichter point taken. However, if there were incidents of Lefty forks breaking, we probably would have heard of it by now. The internet is an unforgiving place, and people love to post pics of their busted gear online.

  • @sagew7377
    @sagew7377 7 месяцев назад

    My dad bought one around 2006 and still works great to this day. It really is a great fork!

  • @TheHoodGuru
    @TheHoodGuru Месяц назад

    Im the prod owner of a Cannondale with a headshok. Thanks to one of your videos I know its a precursor relative to the lefty. By the way great content. Got a sub from me finally.

  • @brgy.looper9552
    @brgy.looper9552 2 года назад +7

    It cannot snap in half when it is already one half

  • @jdub6797
    @jdub6797 2 года назад +3

    They are smooth under side load because of the needle bearings, they are also stiffer in side load, they don't flex. Push button lock out on the fly. Best fork out there.
    The lefty is no different than a front wheel on a rear wheel drive car/truck, like a lot of airplane wheels. What car has a support on both sides?

  • @seemlesslies
    @seemlesslies 2 года назад +4

    I love how he didn't mention the fact in almost all metrics it's inferior to a dual strut of the same caliber due to the difference in stresses. This thing is purely is novelty.
    Non symmetric stresses are a bitch, and singular axis with multiple pivot points is nuts.

    • @user-qb7vv6lf1y
      @user-qb7vv6lf1y 2 года назад

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    • @rynosmith9674
      @rynosmith9674 2 года назад +1

      Non symmetric stresses you say?
      I wonder what exactly the relevance is, of ‘non symmetric stresses’🤔 especially with regards to performance?

  • @Cochran05
    @Cochran05 7 месяцев назад

    A year ago I commented on this. Yesterday was New Bike Day! Cannondale Scalpel with a Lefty!!! It is fast and light!

  • @klarnamemeta6556
    @klarnamemeta6556 7 месяцев назад

    I'm glad to ride three different Hooli's, the awesome Slate&also the legendary ON-Bike. The Lefty is a timeless stunner...nuff respect!

  • @DinnerForkTongue
    @DinnerForkTongue 2 года назад +5

    Massively overpriced components tend to not catch on that easily.

    • @kalleguld
      @kalleguld 2 года назад

      But if it's really overpriced, competitors tend to come along and offer a cheaper version.

    • @DinnerForkTongue
      @DinnerForkTongue 2 года назад

      @@kalleguld
      Not when the company owns the patent and is RABID defensive about it.

  • @TheBcoolGuy
    @TheBcoolGuy Год назад +4

    Haha this title would be weird and hilarious if it were political.

  • @Ryan_Harkin
    @Ryan_Harkin Год назад +1

    My Cannodale Trigger Carbon Pro is the best "over mountain" as Cannodale call it, bike I've ever used. The duel chamber Fox Dyad RT2 rear shock is pretty sweet too. Being able to remotely switch fron 90mm travel to 140mm is a nice feature.

  • @basarrot2421
    @basarrot2421 2 года назад

    The first time I've seen the lefty was on a commercial with Lebron, now I see it again on this channel with an explanation on how this cool design works.

  • @wpok101
    @wpok101 6 месяцев назад

    I remember the older guy down the road as I was a kid had one and it was the coolest thing in like 02 or 03 and still to this day its so special.

  • @leonv1553
    @leonv1553 2 года назад +1

    Hello BPE. Great talk on the Lefty. Always loved that design, always gotta do a double take. Hey what's missing here, just doesn't look right. Sure works right though. Ages ago I was shopping for an all-mountain bike that was WAY better than my riding. I went for a good 2 hour flog on a Cannonade Lefty something. It covered a variety of easyish trails faster than any other bike I knew. All good? No. I rode it so much faster than normal for me, it's usual pace, it resulted in a bit of a heart attack. lol true story. In the end the magic Gary Fisher Roscoe steering and rear suspension won the comparo. Still love it. Easy to service and fix too.