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Mercedes-Benz M-Class Rear Brake Job HD
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- Опубликовано: 12 авг 2024
- Hey guys, if you have a problem with accessing maintenance menu to retract your rear emergency brakes, please watch this guy video:
• 2012 Mercedes Benz ML3...
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Flat out one of the most well done and informative videos for DIY folks ever made. Showing the way to get into the service menu rather than using a separate attached computer (which is what ever repair facility tells you is needed) was beyond awesome. Thank you thank you thank you.
Admittedly this was the longest brake job I've ever done - thank you Mercedes. Two separate pieces, etc. Really... REALLY...
I'm used to 10 minute jobs on older Porsches and without your video I would have failed this job (though I suspect one can pull the caliper off without retracting the parking brake through the service menu, I'm betting it would have been impossible to put back on).
And the 18mm socket. Jeez, I've been servicing German cars for 30 years and never needed one before. Great to know I had to go run out and get one before starting the job.
My most sincere gratitude.
You rock dude.
I looked at your excellent video today again and changed my rear brakes pads and rotors on my 2015 ml350. Went smoothly beside having to use a gas torch to help releasing the rotors from the hub. Thanks again
Guys if you have a problem with accessing maintenance menu to restart your emergency rear brakes please watch this video: ruclips.net/video/NvdEDkwznw8/видео.html
Either I made a mistake or vehicle that I was working on had different programing, different firmware etc..
Absolutely worked and saved me a lot of money. Called the dealers and mechanics and not one call or would say need to put it on a scan. All BS. This video was great. Thanks again.
OUTSTANDING VIDEO !! Best You tube award goes to this guy... 😀😀😀
Thank you for this excellent and very detailed video. I noticed you used a brake caliper tool to compress the brake piston. I have always used normal clamps for this.
This tool allowed to freely spin piston while you're pressing on it, some brake calipers Pistons you cannot just simply pressed in, they have to be turned at the same time. At that time I was not sure what kind of piston it is and just by looking on it you can see a little cut outs right on top of it, from my experience those type of pistons with cut outs have to be turn, but in this case it seems like on the video that they never actually turned.. I purchased this tool on Amazon for like 20 bucks, way more convenient to use this then just a regular caliper press that I used to use and still have one in my belongings.
Great instructions.....very detailed...…& much cheaper than MB dealer.
Thanks, mate. Lots of money saved for a mechanic! Very good material.
Cheers!
Thank you for taking the time to film and post this. Very well documented and explained.
ANuz thank you :) glad I help. please check more videos on my channel, maybe u find some interested. thanks for complement, just trying to do the best and came up with more professionally done videos.
God bless you! GREAT video. Extremely well done. Did the job with ease 😀
You sir, are a gentleman and a lifesaver. Best tutorial I've ever seen, and worked like a charm
Thank you for doing this video. It really helped me with my brake job!
Trey O'Neale you're welcome I'm glad I helped !! There are few more videos related to Mercedes if you like, you can check them out
Awesome Instruction. Thank You.
thanks for the professional video
Excellent video...both this and the front brake video. Have done ML350 brakes before but wanted to check so I didn't forget anything. Two comments...1) My local MB dealer wanted $1800 for new pads and rotors...cost me only 400 and that was for drilled/slotted rotors and carbon fiber/ceramic pads (and hardware). 2) might consider adding recommendation to use a torque wrench to tighten bracket, caliper, and wheel bolts.
Great video, nice to see someone doing it right.
Tysm man. For anyone having issues with displaying the cylinder opening option you need to be on the menu where it shows the milage before pressing the phone hang up/pick up/ok.
Thank you I followed your vid, it worked like a charm.
Excellent video, you are good mechanic!!
You're the man, couldn't have done it without this video!!!! Thanks you
Tri Beverage you're welcome I'm happy I help and check out my channel I have more videos about Mercedes
Thank you so much , you saved the day, much appreciated .........Cheers !!
I have to say you are awesome. I did the job and it went well. The only difference is my 2015 ml350 piston did not rotate it went straight in. Thank you very much.
You're welcome I'm glad I helped
Very helpful video. Thanks 👍
The video made the job super easy. Will point out that there was only one brake pad wear sensor on my 2015 ML350 which was on the passenger side. - Thanks
thank you for watching, glad i helped
Thanks so much for making this, it was very informative. I was wondering why I couldn't compress my caliper!
Travis Ko you're welcome I'm glad I helped thank you for checking out my channel, subscribe and maybe you will find more interesting videos on my channel. thanks again
thank you so much for helping me through this great job Clayton A
Clayton Augustine you're welcome if you have any questions you're free to ask
Clayton Augustine I have more videos about Mercedes. check them out
Thank you sooo much, never messed with cars before and it took me about 5 hours. I can’t believe dealership charges 1299 for this thing.
$1,300 !? They lost there mind
SO MANY THANK YOUS FOR THIS!!
Glad to help!
This was one of the best description videos that I have seen. Good Job!!
Sliding pin bolts: though a 13mm socket might work like in this video, if you look at the back of these bolts you'll see they are actually Torx T-40. You'll get a much better grip, especially on a stubbornly tight bolt, with the T-40. The outside of the head is pretty soft and a 13mm wrench or socket may slip and round it off.
Yeah I seen it. Thought could do both . Thank you
very informative thank you
Thank you. Your video is very helpful.
I have 2012 ML350. It is non sport pkg but has vented rotors. What type of break pads do I need? Regular pads? Or sport pkg pads?
Great video, there are definitely a lot of Mercedes mechanics is upset LOL ,Thank You for sharing
They need to stop ripping people of.. for brake pads and rotors $700??...... like come on... just regular pads and rotors... not performance...
Great video. Thank you
awesome video, saved me time and money!
thanks for watching and I'm glad I helped, check my channel for more videos, maybe you find something interesting
Great video you helped me, please make more videos.
more videos about what??
Very informative and very well presented...Thank You! If rotor and pads are worn on 1 side of rear of vehicle only, do you recommend replacing only the one side or both rear brake rotors and pads?
Unfortunately when this happened you have to replace both sides at the same time rotors and pads because when you will be performing a break in one side will stop quicker than another one. If your rear need to be replaced only don't worry about the front if they're okay and vice versa
Wow great video!! What can i do if i have a sqweky noise when i turn on the electric parking brakes?
Nice how done about the brake ads videos any videos on replacing camshaft position sensors and replace them
Well done..awesome ,thank you
Awesome. I know I can do my own frint and rear brakes now. Thank you. Keep up the good professional videos.
outstanding thank you soooooo much
Couldnt compress the cylinder for some reason even though fronts were fine, the cheap tool I had just wasnt strong enough, weird... Will need to get a set like yours
Hey there,
Can you create a tool list in the comment section so I can tell if I have everything before I get started?
It would tremendously help
Thanks !
You have saved my day with this video, I followed instructions on your video and I was able to change both front and rear pads.
Do you still own the 2015 ML350?
isa mora glad I helped . I never owned this car. It's my relative vehicle
Thanks!!
Do you have any idea about both front and rear rotor size difference between amg package and regular model?
I agree, great video, but the music is unnerving.
Is this step by step the same for a 2015 Ml250?? And is there another video for the front rotor and pads?
The dealership wanted a $1000 + for this job! Thanks!
nice video, thanks!
Thank you. Check my channel for more videos, maybe u will find something interesting that u will like too
Great Video. This showed brakes replacement on on e wheel. Should Wy reset the main Menu after replacing brakes on both sides. Or complete one side and then go into fitting mode again for second wheel??
Rajesh Marwah you are resetting the menu to complete rear replacement and that's for both sides
thanks for this!! any video on how to replace the fronts?
Yes! Lol. You should look though the list of all my videos. Maybe you will find something useful.
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Do u leave the car on in acc. mode while u do the brakes or can u turn it off and it go back to that screen on power up?
Best brake repair video I've seen on youtube. Actually one of the best DIY videos overall. Wish that others would match your level of clarity and attention to details. Only question is do you only bleed lines if the hydraulic system is opened ? I've always bled lines during every brake job, even when the system was not opened. Rational is to remove the old brake fluid which tends to accumulate water and cause corrosion. Maybe this is overkill ?
Thank you! No u dont have to. IRS only for rotor replacement
I would not bleed the system every single time you replace brakes. but every other time, this is definitely Overkill but it will keep your master cylinder work forever and over all performance of brakes of course will be better.
Great instructions.....however it would be best to clean everything before installing the new pads....brackets, calipers, mounting plates, bolts/threads ....everything.
It is awesome :)
thank alot dude
your video was awesome!
John Hopkins thank you so much
John Hopkins I have more videos about Mercedes. check them out
Nice presentation. I need know how to remove brake light. I still can't erase it. Everything done well as you showed. Only difference is mine is a 2010 ml350 bluetec. My warning and ABS came on before replacement of pads. I replaced ABS speed sensor but light still. Left rear hit a pothole then the lights came on ABS and warning. I tried clear them. What am really asking is how to clear them since the car is braking well and nothing seems wrong.
Well from my experience if ABS showing you it's mean you still have a problem. Usually the way how ABS system works if it detects error then it will show, if error was not detected ABS light will go away, you will still have a code stored as a history in the system you . You can clear them, but there is really no way to clear out ABS light for it to go away it means that you still have a problem somewhere. I could be wrong. All experience that I had with ABS system, this is how it worked, as soon as the problem was fixed ABS automatically goes away but it's a Mercedes..... you replace ABS speed sensor how did you knew this is was the problem?? usually when ABS comes up it's mean one of your sensor that on wheel failed. You have 4 of them. the way to find out which wheel speed sensor went out you have to read codes directly from ABS... cannot be done with the regular check engine scanner, you have to find and buy one from Amazon or ebay that can actually read ABS error codes, im sure as soon as you clear those codes, that ABS system will automatically come back as soon as it will find error.
Hi, great video. I have 2 questions. What is the type of grease you use on rotor mounting plate and also on brake pad hardware? Where can I get it? And 2nd question is that I bought MB original rotors. They seem to have some protective film on the rotors. Do you know if I need to clean that off the rotors before installing or will it automatically come off once I start driving?
RE: ..shipping film on rotors...always clean the rotor (pad surface) before to mounting and again after brake job, to eliminate possible grease/oil/hand print, etc. contamination.
Thanks for the information and video,I’m getting a 2007 model,would I need to do the service menu part on that year too or is it only on the newer models?
Kind regards,
Mark
You're getting second generation of ML350 I'm showing third generation which was produced since 2011. I have no idea what kind of system there and I don't think so you would have to go through the menu. Should be just simple change
Excellent DIY; only question is do you change the rotor and brake pad on the passenger side and then reinstate the parking brake or not? meaning after brake pad/rotor replacement on both rear tires, then only you go to the service asyst to engage the parking brake? right ?
Yes ofcourse!! Gotta do them both first. Then in the system Switchback
Will this work for a 2014 ML350 Special Edition?
Is this the same process for a 2016 GLE 350.
Thank you. Easy to follow and good video for DIY folks. One quick questions, is it same process for 2014 ML350?
V Pandita should be same . its same generation
Thank you.
V Pandita Just so you know for future reference use. next time if you wanna check the parts capability or some work done to your vehicle you can simply check what generation of your car by searching it on Google . Example: if your 2013 Honda Fit - will be 3d generation, they were made from 2010 until 2015. so 80% parts or work same. unless u have different suspension package or bigger/smaller engine.
Replaced rear break pads and rotors. Your video was a life saver. Thank you. Took me a bit longer than expected but some of that was due to learning curve and not having the right tools etc.
Really good video and thank you for doing it, however why are we replacing the rotor when the rotor has a lot of meat left on it? Was it warped? There's a tolerance for thickness on the rotor ... even if it's warped you can bring it to a machine shop and have it turned. Also, use a cheap c-clamp to depress that brake caliper and save some money by not having to buy a special tool kit just to depress the brake caliper.
I was doing this for someone who did not want to resurface rotors and one them brand new!!! I rented tool because I was told you can not just press in piston and it have to be screw in withthus tool kit. That was wrong.! So I used it because I had it and futured it in this video. Since I post this video I have done many many brake jobs on different vehicles. I now have my own tool kit like that. I don't rent tools anymore lol. I just buy them because next time I know I'll use again.
I would use ventilation holes and slots rotors and ceramic brake pads for better cooling and braking.
The majority of OEM manufactures have gone away from drilled & slotted rotors as the original purpose was to provide an exit for brake pad gases. New pads are made up of better friction materials & do not build up the gases as the older pads did. Another reason for non-drilled rotors was drilled rotors seemed to develop cracks starting at the holes. Drilled and/or slotted rotors do look better, but you will mostly see them on track cars, where rotors & pads are changed more often.
Great video!! Question for you, I had the hardest time compressing the caliper last time I replaced the brake pads. Could it be because I didn’t put it into service mode
Yes definitely!!
Hope you didn't damaged anything
Do I have to do this for a 2007 ml350?
It is January 2023, 7 yrs later, thank you so much!
Video super.mlo meccanico arrabbiato.
2 questions:
1.- What does the "moving to fitting position" adjusment do?
2.- Why did you open the brake reservoir cap?
Yussnan84 This vehicle have electronic emergency brake. So they have to be released through the onboard computer for future brake pad replacement. This is very important step and you cannot miss it !! I always open brake fluid reservoir cap for brake fluid return, because every time you compressing brake caliper piston, brake fluid returning back to reservoir and if that cap is closed you're gonna creat unnecessary pressure. Also be aware if you're brake fluid being topped of and you're changing your brake pads, you might need to remove some fluid. Since brake fluid will go back, back to Reservoir, extra fluid will over flow and brake fluid will be dripping everywhere, into your engine bay, and on your paint..
Very helpful, thanks.
Torque settings?
It worked, I suffer from fat thumb syndrome and getb no tax credits...really thanks!
David Snipes I'm glad i helped!!!! Thank you for watching
Awesome . thanks.
what is that white lubricant you use on calipers is some anti-seize or grease?
For caliper pins and pads use "American Grease Stick Co. Sil-Glyde Silicone Brake Lubricant" between rotor and hub I recommend to use regular silver anti-seize
@@IvanRossS I have mine ML 2015 , and done 4 A and B services , Never done break service . My wife's Japan car Mazda CX 5 , the recommend every 2 years Break service, just clean and lubricate.
Great video! Few questions after you access fitting position can you turn ignition off and remove key and perform pad removal? Also do you pump break pedal before exiting fitting position? Thanks
Lee Murtagh yes u can !!
Great thanks so much mate!
Lee Murtagh dont pump brakes. Just exit fitting position and then pump all they long :) I highly recommend to resurface your OEM rotors If they still not bad instead of buying crapy aftermarket like I did.. You can resurface your rotors only for $12 at all O'Reilly Auto Parts. Or at your local brake shop for little more, but still you will save alot and end it up haveing original good rotors!!
Great idea never thought of that thanks! So just exit fitting position then pump pedal as Normal?
Lee Murtagh yes. Well honestly I don't really know but I would just do procedure backwards! Fittings required to be released because you have electric emergency brake! So even if you pump brakes before you exit the fitting position that shouldn't hurt. When you releasing feelings, you basically preventing to break your emergency brakes system, that all.
Hey question when you are doing the rear brakes do you have to exit out of the service menu in the dash board for each one separately or you could finish both back brakes and then exit out of the service menu?
asadullah kakar it's for both!
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Got a question as I am right in the middle of replacing rear brakes, pads and sensors. the wear sensor is only on the right rear? I took off both right and left rears and I only have 1 sensor, I don't see a sensor for the rear drivers side.
Yes only 1 !! It's because usually your brakes wear out evenly maybe it's not wear out evenly 100% same but they're pretty close and One sensor is just enough to give you information when it it's time for you to replace pads
Great video!
One question:
We just did the same job on a 2012 ML350 but at the end when we try to exit the fitting position the car gave me this error:
- Cond. for Exiting Fitting Position Not Correct, To Confirm: OK
When I press OK the menu goes back to:
- Fitting Position Reached To Exit Fitting Position: OK
and the menu returns to the same cycle again…
What can be wrong?
Thanks in advance.
Mario Gonzalez make sure u have good connection on harness by the brake caliper
I will and let you know... thanks
When retracting rear brakes: Must push in only or push and turn also? Chevy pistons (for example) must be turned while pushing. I watched again: no turning of piston. Why dimple on pressing disc?
This pistons dont need to be turned. I have no idea why dimples was there too... but it push in very early
Hello,
Im trying to change my reard pads but cannot access the service menu to put in Brake Pad replacement mode. Ive tried many combos but still no luck. Will I still be able to get the job done? Will it let me push the caliper?
Ok i had the same issue but i went online and read on the forums and they helped me figure it out. First you have to be in the odometer screen, then press the "answer call" button and "ok" simultaneously for like 5 seconds. Try that it should work
So Mercedes wanted $890.00 rear brakes only, I am a blessed person but not because I blow my hard earned bucks. this was great...could you add some country music...just kidding. I have changed drums and replaced brakes numerous times but not in years.
Thanks for keeping it simple, precise and enjoyable.
Total cost for the upgraded rotors and lifetime pads and nitpicky needs UNDER $200.00, 2 hours, done, saved $690.00.
Good video. What is this fitting mode?
Fitting mode....is the retraction of the electric parking brake.....so that you can remove the pads.
Your rotors look good. Why did you need to replace them? Were they disbalanced? Vibration?
Vibration. That was cost by warp rotor. It actually could be fix by simple resurface but I ended up replacing them. Vehicle wasn't mine. If you have original OEM Mercedes rotors I highly recommend you just simply resurface them it will remove any vibrations. OEM rotors much better then this cheap Chinese rotors. I see now why they charge so much for them at the dealership.
@@IvanRossS thank you for answering. Was the vibration happening on braking or even on driving 40mph and up?
Does the Disc Brake Caliper Tool Set actually spin the cylinder as it compresses? Do you absolutely need this toolset for safe compression?
no you don't need to have caliper tool that actually spin the cylinder. if you take a closer look on the video you can see that cylinder does not spin!. I I rent this tool from AutoZone and I got all my money back when I returned it. the reason of that because, I had a tool that didn't work for those type of calipers.. because as you can see on the opposite side of the caliber it's all made out of plastic and if I would use my old tool it will break right through it.
Didn't see it rotate, but thought I'd double-check. Thank you!
Ron Dexter u are welcome,
thanks for watching. if u have any questions don't hesitate to ask. I'm pretty quick responses :)
I can do all four brake pads change then do the instrument thing once?
Yes of course u can lol :)
Following your instruction to replace the rotor and pads but they got really hot after a long drive. There seems to be drags somewhere. I have done everything I can think of like greasing this or that. Do you know if there is anything else I need to do? The only thing I can think of might be the e brake.
They both dragging?? Both getting hot? It should not be e brake because when you enter settings to release e-brake for replacement and then not returning settings. E-brake will not be activate, it will just simply not going to work at all. Also check if u plunged harness back for e-brake
I would recommend you to flush your brake system it might got dirty somewhere. One of the ABS valve clogged !
by the way when you have new rotors and new brakes they will always start to getting really hot and steaming because they're new and some new material and oils are burning so it might seems to be their extremely hot because they're steaming but it's not it's absolutely normal and it will go away. After driving and braking. touch your wheel and if it's really hot this is not good
@@IvanRossS yes. they both got hot. it's not bad for short trips. but any trips longer than 20 minutes make them hot. it was steaming hot the first few days. it's getting a little better. but i can still feel calipers are warm since the fronts are basically cold. do you know how long roughly it would go back to normal. i'm thinking to take it to a local mechanic for an inspection. thank you for notifying me the message by leaving a comment on one of my videos.
Took it to a euro car shop and they basically redid the brake job and found no issue. But it’s still getting hot. I guess I either do the fluid flush or have to take it to the dealer
Hi,
why you changed the brake rotor disk? what is the minimum thickness of it?
they were warped. and they were given vibration and shaking every time you break on the low speed. I could have simply resurface them for $15 each but it would took half a day for the shop to do it. I would have to deliver rotors to them and then pick them up. it's too much work, and I did not have extra vehicle, it was easier just to order brand new... and spend less than an hour for a replacement instead of a half a day
In the 'Pad Replacement' menu what is 'Moving to Fitting Position'? Is it releasing the brake piston or the e-brake? Thanks.
Lol its same thing . E-brake mechanism pushing on the piston. Well for you to press piston back in to install new thicker brake pads, you might want to release the e-brake otherwise you have a chanceto break that mechanism.
Thanks. I need to replace rear pads and needed to know how to release the e-brake. Just needed to verify and your video has helped.
Is that White Lithium Grease you used on the pad clips and between the hub and rotor?
Aaron McVay I don't remember what i used, it's maybe ceramic brake Grease, it's white also. You can buy tube at Advance Auto Parts
Use the special NAPA Sil-Glide part # 765-1361.....will not melt & water repellent - good for temps -20 to +600.
use it all parts the brake parts
In addition...I noticed at the 12:37 minute, the outer brake pad was contaminated with that white grease....appears too much grease was used....you do not need to over grease the brake hardware....
...Watch close....you will see that a hanging sting of the grease makes contact with brake pad...this is a no-no....be careful....if you have grease on your gloves, change them.
Thanks a lot for the video. It's a great one. I just asked someone replaced my rear break pads. But the guy didn't release the break reservation cap and put the break pad in fitting position before he replace the pads like you did in the video. The display of 'check break pad wear' message is still showing after the replacement. I tried to do it again as showing in the video. But the system always say 'not correct condition'. How should I fix this problem now? Please advise. Thanks a lot for your help in advance.
Did your guy replaced brake wear sensor or he reused old one???
Thanks a lot for your reply. He did replaced the break wear sensor as well.
The sensor is located at the passenger side.
He used a off market sensor. Will this be a problem? The message is still there. Could I clear it? Will this affect the driving? Thanks a lot.
Did you fix this problem.?
Do you release the electronic parking brake aswell as this method by pulling the brake lever out or don't touch the electronic parking brake at all?
No . Hell no. Don't touch it
Thankyou for clarifying that 👍😊
I have a 2013 ml350, are they all the same procedures?? And how many brake pad sensors total?
its same procedure!, its same generation. Total of 2 sensors. one at the front and on the back.
Thanks for reply. Very helpful. Thanks so much!
I also couldn't get my car into fitting mode. I'm from Canada.
I did not see you torque the guide pins & rotor mount bolts.
Never do that lol. Torque at this locations not that critical, it's just made so you will not over tight or under tight.. just hand tight guide pins and rotor bolt. Rotor bolt don't do anything besides keeping rotor in place. Now, brake mount braket, you have to tight pretty hard, I hit once or twice it with hammer on wrench. That's it! Only lugs have to be torque!! ! But if you want to be so anal about things you can torque every single bolt
Can I change both rear brakes (passenger and driver) and then retract the brakes or do I have to retract them after doing driver side only?
No lol. They both retracts. And u have to retract them before u starting changing your brakes. You basically disengaging your emergency brake system because it's under the tension and it's very close to the brake pads and caliper cylinders, so if you try to remove your calipers and press on your brake caliper cylinders to install you pads without retracting it first !! You have a chance of damage in this system.
@@IvanRossS sorry the question was a little confusing, what I mean is that in the video you changed the driver side brakes and then after you went back to put the brakes back to normal in the cluster. The question is, do I have to put them back to normal after changing just the driver side or can I change both sides THEN put them back to normal?
Is the break pad worn out sensor on all four sides driver and passenger side? When we get the message on the dash will the message say which side has worn out? How will we need to be sure please?
Unfortunately there is no way it's not going to tell you which side.
@@IvanRossS will it at least say front or rear? Should this always be done in pairs which is both front or both rear? Dealer is also suggesting to change the rotor but it was only put in 2015 as part of CPO and moreover has only 81000 miles. It’s a 2012 ML350.
Mines only on passengerside
No torque specs listed
Nice video did you turn the car back to off after retracting the piston ?
Yes. When turn back on just retract them back to normal position
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Appreciate the help✊🏽
Do you HAVE to change the rotors with the break pads?
No