I’ve worked on a few of these. The best way I found to clean the gunk off the pulleys is to take the whole chassis out of the case,(it’s only 3 screws), take the main flywheel out and smaller clutch pulley and and clean them all with methylated spirits. It gives you far better access doing it this way. I found in all cases taking time to really give it a good clean restores the machine to perfect working condition. Hope this is helpful for anybody prepared to undertake this messy job!!
Love to see my old companion "music system" when I was on my first tour to Europe with "hippies". At that time perhaps I was 20 year old collage student. These Philips were "Made in Austria". You reminded me my youth & freedom days without worries. Love you. Most of countries I visited do not exist now (they have new names). Lots of regards.
I found one of these in a shoe box, in a skip (dumpster) thirty years ago. It's in excellent condition and works great. It even has its leather case and microphone. Some people are just no good.
The el3300 was the first then quickly superseded by the el3301 which had record protection. Neither had a window in the cassette access door. This one is I think the third iteration.
I've just stumbled into owning one of the Norelco Holland ones with the same design and schematics. Melted pulleys there too, useful video, thanks for posting!
Thank you so much for this video from England! I have a similar unit which had exactly the same problem with the drive belts ‘melting’. Strange how the tyre on the drive wheel isn’t degraded at all. I’ve changed the belts and all working now.
I also had one of these in the late sixties. It was my first tape recorder and I was thrilled. I can't remember specifically why it went west,but I do remember speed consistency problems. As it warmed up,it got faster and faster. I recall fiddling with the speed control which contained a couple of germanium transistors. If I knew then what I know now,I would have tried changing them to silicon. I also remember the strange recording head which had the coil and armature embedded in some kind of light brown resin. My friend had the Panasonic equivalent which featured piano keys. I am still a Tapehead today with a number of decks and boomboxes,whilst others prefer vinyl. Thanks for the video which brought back good memories.
Thanks, that should help me refurbish my own one, owned from new (1969). I found the black gunk too! The reason for the two sockets is that the 180 degree 5-pin DIN was a standard tape record/replay format, compatible with other DIN devices. The accessories connector (270 degree 5-pin) was for remote control and non-standard accessories.
Wow!! Interesting video. My dad and I had purchased one of these recorders for each of us bought in 1968, identical to the one you have there. The first cassettes recorded on them back in 1968 still play perfectly. Our actual tape recorders stopped working years ago. These recorders were great tape recorders, but with constant use, they had to be serviced quite regularly. I actually found a slightly different model in later years, that had similar controls, but was silver rather than black. There was also an extra plug to run an extension speaker. I actually had a special lead made to allow direct recording from other items, as this was long before Tandy and Dick Smith Electronics existed. The recorders mainly worked on batteries, but were possible to run with specialized power packs as well. Interesting seeing the speed control. I was never aware of that facility.
It's nice to see you restoring an old piece of Dutch history. I have one myself en use it frequently. That black liquid rubber is wat we here in the Netherlands call "Snarendrek" It's a pain in the ass to remove it. Keep on the good work.
That was great, thank you! The last part with the test tone is what I've been looking for. I've found that pitch adjustment on some machines already, just wasn't sure what it should be tuned to. I guess the trick now is getting that tone recorded to a tape on a machine that's in full working order. Thanks again, new sub here!
The Rolling Stones recorded Street Fighting Man with that. The guitars and toy drums distorting like hell are cassette tape, dubbed in a professional machine. They were built like tanks in the 60s...
But then Philips redesigned these tape recorders to have a limit stop, therefore we are no longer able to get our acoustic guitars so heavily distorted through machines like this.
Excellent! Makes me want to try to find one. I love these things! I guess I have a regression for the past when they were the hot toy to have fun with though the cost was quite a chunk at once for a lot of young adults and teenagers to fork over.
I have restored 3 2202s and 2 2204s I love working on them. Your story about your father doing sound effects for films, I did the same thing in my early days
It was my father-in-law and he did not work in the film business he was an amateur filmmaker. Just did it with his friends and family and competed in competitions. He won first prize for a film title Mr gullible has a toothache. That film is on my RUclips channel if you search for it. This tape recorder was used for the sound effects on that film. Sounds of phones ringing phone's dialing traffic cars honking etc was all recorded with this tape recorder. When they made the film it was of course shot silent because there was no sound film back in the late 1950s. Once the film was edited the edited film was sent back to have a magnetic strip attached to the edge of the film. They then brought the film back and projected it and every person that was involved was speaking roles in the film sat in the basement watching the film and rereading their lines as the sound was recorded live. Sound effects had been pre-recorded onto cassette and they played the tape and just held the microphone to the projector recorder to pick up the sound off the tape recorder as they dubbed the sound. I have the old projector that was used when they made that film it's an old Kodak sound eight which would have been a very expensive projector back in the day because nobody use sound on standard 8mm. One super 8 film started to become more accepted for home movie makers a sound on film version was released which recorded the sound directly on the film as it was being shot but prior to that it had to be done the same way that Hollywood did sound production and that was record the sound separately and then add it to the film after the film was edited.
@@12voltvids I only did it for fun in my teens, I had a super 8 camera (no sound) made amateur films at home, or if I went outside I would film and record the soundtrack on a N2204, then spend hours putting it all together. those were the days
@@chrystina5604 my father in-law, family and friends spent over 1 year putting together their film. He started in it too. Won the Merritt award for best film in the club. Then the kids came along and no money or time for film making. One of the women in the film is 100 years old this year and still around. Haven't seen her since 2019. Hope to be able to visit this year and am going to show her the film now that it is digitized. I doubt she has seen it since the early 60s when it was made.
Nice video. I have the same one passed on by a friend which was heavily tampered with, I am gonna restore this now. This is of 1968, i was born in 1973, one guess the irony!!!
Some of that crackle you are getting is the record-play switch. It is oxidized. They usually respond to just a handful of switching cycles. This means you don't have to worry about getting any cleaner on the belts. Enjoy!
Interesting! Our first was a Mayfair about 1970. The plastic around the mic and remote jacks broke when it was accidentally dropped. It had a slider for fast forward and rewind. In 1965, I was only 2, lol. Back in those days, the cassettes snapped into place with those 2 holes at the bottom. Pipe cleaners would probably get into the narrow pulleys better. (They stick make those?) I am also amazed the capacitors are still good.
Many thanks for making this video. I'm currently trying to get a Phillips 3302 working, have gotten as far as removing goop and putting in belts, but won't run as of yet. Probably (hopefully) it just needs a bit of lube.
Laying these flat without the back on, the brass part of the take up slipper pully rubs on the bench and gives the weird speed variations....I know because...💥
It’s slow because it needs real cleaning. Done by taking it apart and use Dasty. Btw the din sockets and plugs are numbered or marked with colors red and blue. There are two 5 pin sockets because they also support a radio, mains adapter, head phones and some more. They were made until the early seventies with minor changes.
I know that :) Hence the greetings from the Netherlands. Did you know that the size of the hole in the center of a compact disc is based on a (no longer used) coin from the Netherlands?
How did you not have the speed change when you adjusted the belts? I’m having a hard time getting the pressure roller to stay consistent when I took the screw out of the capstan. Have you run tomorrow this problem? Iv watched the video and replaced the belts how you did but can’t figure out what I did to make the cassette speed play so fast
This was my 'kiddie' tape recorder. mine was the Wollensak-badged version and it was brown. Speed fluctuations were ALWAYS a problem with this unit!. Depending on how 'hard' you push the lever to 'PLAY". The speed can be tweaked using the tiny pot on the small PC board near the flywheel.
I was cringing while watching you clean out that black goo, it gets everywhere! I did a similar job on a Philips open reel deck, I used lighter fluid & meths to clean up both the deck and my hands. It seems that this is par for the course with Philips recorders, I have the same cassette recorder somewhere, no doubt it is in a similar state to yours by now....
Excellent video!!!!. Please could you tell me 12voltsvids, apart from the 440-hertz tone, how do you get the other sound from the Philips to match it with the 440-hertz tone? The second and third question, if I may ask you, is about the electric supply. All the adapters I find have double polarity so I am worried if I could damage the Philips if i used the wrong one. It doesn't damage any of my other recorders when using the wrong one, they just don't work when using the wrong one, but, with my "professional sony wm-d6" devices, it damages the speed system. The third question is, would it be possible to adapt a security mechanism autostop to avoid damaging tapes? Thank you very much in advance for your reply.
Plugging in the incorrect polarity will damage equipment. The only time it won't is if your adapter current is below the max current of the components in the circuit.
The DIN plugs were "standardized" so Philips followed that convention. The mic plug could also be used for patch cord input. 2 pins on one side were input and 2 were line output with common on the 5th pin. The second DIN socket was used for switching and the third for speaker/earphone. I had dozens of these pass through my hands over the year, many branded Wollensak and VM. There were 2 versions, btw - Germanium and silicon. Yours is the germanium from what I can see. Wollensak units were tan in color and VM versions had unique shells with a big fixed chrome handle. They shell was usually black. I dreaded seeing these in the waiting for service line for the same reason yours is a mess - melting belts. The tires seldom were an issue but I did keep some on hand. These were basic things back then but you can't get anything built like this today. even "pro" stuff.".
Correct! The DIN plug system was standardized and Philips didn't start using RCA/tulip/cinch connectors until the late 1970s. The 180 degree plug was for audio in and out; pin 2 in the middle was ground, pin 1 was microphone and pin 3 was line in and out. Philips made their mono cassette recorders compatible with stereo systems so the sockets have the optional pins 4 and 5 which are for the right channel in a stereo setup. Of course they're tied together in this recorder. The 240 degree DIN connector is for the microphone switch that stops and starts the motor. If nothing is plugged in there, a contact in the socket shorts the two contacts that go to the switch. There was also a 9V mains power supply that could be connected to the 240 degree plug. I don't remember what the other contacts are used for, if they were. The third DIN socket is to connect a speaker. It also has a built-in switch to turn the internal speaker off. Philips reused the mechanism of this recorder in many other recorders. I had a cassette recorder with "real" tape controls (no thumb killer) and internally, the mechanism was exactly the same, up to and including the part where the thingy would be moved forward to start the tape, back to stop, left to rewind and right to fast forward. I also saw a crippled playback-only version once that was also identical inside, but the recording parts were missing and I think it also couldn't rewind. It has been used in the "Evoluon" technology museum which was created by Philips in their home town Eindhoven (where I lived too). The building is still there, it looks like a flying saucer, but it's in use for something else now. By the way I think the speed problems were because of age and because when you put it right side up with the bottom cover removed, the white pulley with the brass top (and a slip coupling in between) gets blocked by the workbench. When I had this recorder (and its relatives) in the 1970s and 1980s, I never had any problems with excessive wow and flutter.
Sony manufactured almost this same machine for Lafayette Electronics in '66 or '67 but the ff and rew locked and the use the mini phone and submini jacks for mic and sw respectively. I had one of them when I was in college !
Cleaning old belts on the mechanics of these cassette recorders is the nastiest thing there is. As a repairman, I have done this operation several times.
05/28/2019: I have saved one of the same model (EL 3302/00) made in Holland for 50 years which could be introduced to a fixed base in the car to listen to it with the car speakers. In this video I saw how to change the straps because mine has them broken. Can you tell me the size of the straps ?. Thank you.
Just bought one, yesterday. 2 mikes, transformer and case for 25 Aus dollars. In 1965, this thing would have been the zenith of audio sophistication for the debonair dude about town.
Hello Congratulations on your tutorial. I have the same recorder, Philips EL 3302. I did your same job, after cleaning the pulleys I put the new straps, I clean the heads with alcohol but not any audio output. What can it be ? can you help me ? THANK YOU Giovanni (Italy)
I have an old JCPenney Cassette player/recorder and can’t seem to find ANY info on it anywhere. Model 3537. Have you ever seen one of these or worked on one? I’d love to get it back up and running. The play switch clicks off after about 5 seconds of playback.
Generally (and not knowing your model here in the UK), I would guess that your machine has autostop. What is happening, is that there is no back tension on the supply (left) spool owing to the belt requiring replacement. The machine is therefore going into autostop to protect the tape from tangling & being damaged. Richard (UK)
My first cassette recorder circa 1971. They were made for quite a few years. I sold mine in 1975, after it went to Australia with us and back to London UK. A friend here in Australia had two which he used extensively for recording DX reception of TV and FM. He still has them although they both need repairs. He does have a bag of heads which are prone to wear because most of the head is ceramic. I was annoyed when I went to a Philips stockist in Finchley to get the wall wart only to be told they don't have it. I never got one. From memory it plugs in the 270deg socket so you can't use the switch on the mic. Be careful you don't lose the flat spring that holds the control "key" in. I wonder if it would sound much better with a modern cassette, the cassettes in the 70s were not brilliant compared to a 1990s TDK for instance. The 180 deg socket is also for line in/out. I did have a 3pin to 5pin cable that came with it but never got a DIN to phono which would have been more useful. Main complaint was the DIN connectors.
Hi, I am trying to restore one of these but the audio output is lacking clarity. Would you have any information about the heads? Do you know if you can still buy them?
totally would be what my brother would have had, recording his rude words to various songs on in the 60-70s when he was about 8-10, hes nearly 60 now, and luckily for me , i digitised one of those tapes :D
Cleaning Electronics how do you recommend cleaning the touch screen navigation system like I have my new car some people say alcohol and water to clean the plastic screen on a temp caught some say microfiber I don't want to damage my my touch screen in my car
Jason JJ Cruz I would just use a microfiber type cloth to clean it no chemicals of if it is badly soiled mist some windex onto the cloth to make it slightly damp and use that to wipe
My dad had one of these as the first cassette recorder/player in our house. From memory, if you bought the mains power supply separate unit it also used the "remote control" DIN socket/plug to connect. What I cant remember is whether it had an arrangement so you could use remote control at the same time as mains power. This link shows the schematic which seems to confirm the mains power supply connection - vintage-technics.ru/Philips%20EL%203302/circuit-Philips_EL_3302.JPG
i bought two of these on ebay today for just 20 euros! Seller says that both unit's motors spin up but the tape is not moving. so i think it'll be a molten belt in both of them.
They revert back to their tar state...I have had those rubber rewind /FF tires melt also... those you cannot get... I usually get a o-ring and super glue it to the wheel ... seems to work ok...if you get lucky the original tire sat in a groove on the wheel those you don't have to glue on...I usually use rubbing alcohol to clean the old rubber out
iv'e had 3 of these ... they are very good.... line in..line out... mike in... stop go... speaker out ect...also I bootlegged the stones with a Sony ECM-21.... where is that tape
Funny to see that belt smeared all over the place. It seems to me that this is a common sight for you? An old 70s Braun cassette player that I fixed last year for a friend had the very same problem. I expected a worn out or ripped belt but not that kind of a sticky mess...
2nd comment! Plugs before the jacks we know as standard for audio equipment today. Woah. - more *than* enough Yikes. You kept using crapped up Qtips when I would have just ditched one for another fresh swab.
That should have been 440, the "A" 440 hz tuning tone on youtube i used as a reference. Yes I know a tuner app will do it, I took the tuner app of my phone as it was eating the battery even when it wasn't active. So many apps just sit there and do things in the background, so I have removed the majority of them. I usually use my scope as it has a counter built in.
The moment I saw Philips I knew it was going to have gooey belts... Yummy... Protip: Put the device in the freezer first, then the goo should chip off pretty easily.
I was actually thinking about doing that with one of my VCRs but I knew it would break something. Yeah maybe I should try frost spray when it comes to gooey belts. Thanks for the tip.
I have it open, in front of me, right now. I just cleaned out the melted belts. Black hands. It is exactly the same. Same piece of belt stuck to the plate over the motor. I'm about to put my new belts on and see if it works. Heads, please be okay...
@@12voltvids Thanks. I just powered it up and the transport is going but there's no sound coming out. Any ideas? Actually, the motor isn't working. Looks like I was gypped.
What a mess with that belt ! such a beautiful machine ruined by that black goo. Please use tweezer to remove pieces of belt and clean with ammonia window cleaner, it will completely wash away the melted rubber.
next time try ammonia window cleaner, it is very much effective on melted rubber. I had to clean a whole walkman from melted rubber and only with ammonia I got clean flywheels.
well that's because I don't really care if there's a slight scratch in the pot after cleaning because I'm never going to use this machine ever. It sits on the shelf on display the new belt I put in has probably melted by now because it hasn't been turned on since I changed the belt on it. It's for static display only I would never record or play anything on something this archaic. The only reason why it's not in the bin is it was because it was my late father-in-law's that he used to record sound on when he was making sound movies back in the early sixties they used to use it to record sound effects and stuff on so it has sentimental value to my wife. But it's not like it's ever going to get used. It's just like all the old Bakelite and wooden a.m. and shortwave radios that I've restored that I get cheap and repair. I'm not going to ever use them to listen to I just collect them. They sit on a shelf in my living room on display. If I've got someone over I might take them down and plug them in and tune them up and show how they sound but I'm not running these units to listen to. They're far too valuable to run up countless hours especially the tube rigs that many of the tubes are obsolete and can never be replaced.
Yes, completely agree with that. I was a radio technician those years! And all parts have been blacked now, because he's got black fingers. He never learned how to repair such recorders! Also the spray used to get rid off the cracks in the sound will not help this way. These cracks come from the motor itself!
@@danvoller8793 If the motor is with mechanical governor (centrifugal speed regulator) then yes, these motors make lot noise, I had recorder which motor was producing crackling in speaker.
Do you have an ultrasonic cleaner because I certainly do not and I am not about to pay someone else to do it. Your comments just prove you are a troll.
I hate those crap belts cus they always make a terrible mess ... they used to make them beter grade and didn't desintegrade like that but new ones are aweful crap
Obsolete technology. A lot of background noise. Bad sound quality. And they are not sold. If I want to buy a cassette deck there are no for sale or they are very bad.Best Fiio X-3,X-5....
@@12voltvids I am not a troll. What makes me angry is that there is not a single deck cassette for sale. New, not second-hand.I was trying to replace a belt with a 1991 cassette, it is difficult. If it is a simple cassette it is easy, but the more sophisticated the more difficult. I'm over 50 years old, I grew up with the cassette.
@@Jose-rodriguez87 When you post the exact same comment in multiple videos what do you expect. They have not made new quality cassette decks in a long time. The reason is simple, because nobody bought them when they still made them. That a rule of business. If it is no longer profitable then dont make them. Look at the car industry in the US right now. People are not buying sedans, they are buying trucks and SUVs so the industry has stopped making cars, and now focusing on SUVs and trucks. They go where the profit in. GM is only making 2 car models, the Camaro and Corvette and Ford has stopped all car production except for the Mustang. Those car models consistently sell, and they continue to make them. VCRs had the same fate. Nobody was buying new ones so they stopped making them. So you are faces with old cassette decks, many that will be well worn. The collectors that have good machines are mostly hanging onto them, and those that do come up go for top dollar, because there are people that are willing to pay for them. I am currently working on a McIntosh DVD / SACD player that was made in 2004 that the guy that just bought it paid a small fortune for, but it was an American made high end piece, that sold for thousands when it was new and he knew what he was getting into. I had to change the loading belt. A fairly involved job.
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I’ve worked on a few of these. The best way I found to clean the gunk off the pulleys is to take the whole chassis out of the case,(it’s only 3 screws), take the main flywheel out and smaller clutch pulley and and clean them all with methylated spirits. It gives you far better access doing it this way. I found in all cases taking time to really give it a good clean restores the machine to perfect working condition. Hope this is helpful for anybody prepared to undertake this messy job!!
Love to see my old companion "music system" when I was on my first tour to Europe with "hippies". At that time perhaps I was 20 year old collage student. These Philips were "Made in Austria". You reminded me my youth & freedom days without worries. Love you. Most of countries I visited do not exist now (they have new names). Lots of regards.
I found one of these in a shoe box, in a skip (dumpster) thirty years ago. It's in excellent condition and works great. It even has its leather case and microphone. Some people are just no good.
I had the 1968 model, which by then had 'piano key' controls. It did many years of service including recording my wedding vows in 1971!
Philips were the actual inventors of the compact cassette, this unit I believe was the very first compact cassette player.
I believe you're correct this was the first one that was commercially sold
The el3300 was the first then quickly superseded by the el3301 which had record protection.
Neither had a window in the cassette access door. This one is I think the third iteration.
I've just stumbled into owning one of the Norelco Holland ones with the same design and schematics. Melted pulleys there too, useful video, thanks for posting!
Thank you so much for this video from England! I have a similar unit which had exactly the same problem with the drive belts ‘melting’. Strange how the tyre on the drive wheel isn’t degraded at all. I’ve changed the belts and all working now.
I also had one of these in the late sixties.
It was my first tape recorder and I was thrilled.
I can't remember specifically why it went west,but I do remember speed consistency problems.
As it warmed up,it got faster and faster.
I recall fiddling with the speed control which contained a couple of germanium transistors.
If I knew then what I know now,I would have tried changing them to silicon.
I also remember the strange recording head which had the coil and armature embedded in some kind of light brown resin.
My friend had the Panasonic equivalent which featured piano keys.
I am still a Tapehead today with a number of decks and boomboxes,whilst others prefer vinyl.
Thanks for the video which brought back good memories.
Thanks, that should help me refurbish my own one, owned from new (1969). I found the black gunk too!
The reason for the two sockets is that the 180 degree 5-pin DIN was a standard tape record/replay format, compatible with other DIN devices. The accessories connector (270 degree 5-pin) was for remote control and non-standard accessories.
I should have clarified that the 180 DIN connections were for stereo - L/R in, L/R out plus earth.
Wow!! Interesting video. My dad and I had purchased one of these recorders for each of us bought in 1968, identical to the one you have there. The first cassettes recorded on them back in 1968 still play perfectly. Our actual tape recorders stopped working years ago. These recorders were great tape recorders, but with constant use, they had to be serviced quite regularly. I actually found a slightly different model in later years, that had similar controls, but was silver rather than black. There was also an extra plug to run an extension speaker. I actually had a special lead made to allow direct recording from other items, as this was long before Tandy and Dick Smith Electronics existed. The recorders mainly worked on batteries, but were possible to run with specialized power packs as well. Interesting seeing the speed control. I was never aware of that facility.
It's nice to see you restoring an old piece of Dutch history. I have one myself en use it frequently. That black liquid rubber is wat we here in the Netherlands call "Snarendrek" It's a pain in the ass to remove it. Keep on the good work.
That was great, thank you! The last part with the test tone is what I've been looking for. I've found that pitch adjustment on some machines already, just wasn't sure what it should be tuned to. I guess the trick now is getting that tone recorded to a tape on a machine that's in full working order. Thanks again, new sub here!
The Rolling Stones recorded Street Fighting Man with that. The guitars and toy drums distorting like hell are cassette tape, dubbed in a professional machine. They were built like tanks in the 60s...
But then Philips redesigned these tape recorders to have a limit stop, therefore we are no longer able to get our acoustic guitars so heavily distorted through machines like this.
that s cool the little bits of audio and electronics info and history you talk about .
Excellent! Makes me want to try to find one. I love these things! I guess I have a regression for the past when they were the hot toy to have fun with though the cost was quite a chunk at once for a lot of young adults and teenagers to fork over.
I had a brand new one in the 70's, it was brilliant, one time a friend borrowed it and ruined it with sea water.. Boy I was pissed..
Nice to see this old casette recorder made close to my home-town in Eindhoven, The Netherlands. It's even made in my year of birth, good it still runs
I have restored 3 2202s and 2 2204s I love working on them. Your story about your father doing sound effects for films, I did the same thing in my early days
It was my father-in-law and he did not work in the film business he was an amateur filmmaker. Just did it with his friends and family and competed in competitions. He won first prize for a film title Mr gullible has a toothache. That film is on my RUclips channel if you search for it. This tape recorder was used for the sound effects on that film. Sounds of phones ringing phone's dialing traffic cars honking etc was all recorded with this tape recorder. When they made the film it was of course shot silent because there was no sound film back in the late 1950s. Once the film was edited the edited film was sent back to have a magnetic strip attached to the edge of the film. They then brought the film back and projected it and every person that was involved was speaking roles in the film sat in the basement watching the film and rereading their lines as the sound was recorded live. Sound effects had been pre-recorded onto cassette and they played the tape and just held the microphone to the projector recorder to pick up the sound off the tape recorder as they dubbed the sound. I have the old projector that was used when they made that film it's an old Kodak sound eight which would have been a very expensive projector back in the day because nobody use sound on standard 8mm. One super 8 film started to become more accepted for home movie makers a sound on film version was released which recorded the sound directly on the film as it was being shot but prior to that it had to be done the same way that Hollywood did sound production and that was record the sound separately and then add it to the film after the film was edited.
@@12voltvids I only did it for fun in my teens, I had a super 8 camera (no sound) made amateur films at home, or if I went outside I would film and record the soundtrack on a N2204, then spend hours putting it all together. those were the days
@@chrystina5604 my father in-law, family and friends spent over 1 year putting together their film. He started in it too. Won the Merritt award for best film in the club. Then the kids came along and no money or time for film making. One of the women in the film is 100 years old this year and still around. Haven't seen her since 2019. Hope to be able to visit this year and am going to show her the film now that it is digitized. I doubt she has seen it since the early 60s when it was made.
Nice video. I have the same one passed on by a friend which was heavily tampered with, I am gonna restore this now. This is of 1968, i was born in 1973, one guess the irony!!!
Some of that crackle you are getting is the record-play switch. It is oxidized. They usually respond to just a handful of switching cycles. This means you don't have to worry about getting any cleaner on the belts. Enjoy!
the early days of cassette it s cool to see how they made em inside the gears and stuff .
Interesting! Our first was a Mayfair about 1970. The plastic around the mic and remote jacks broke when it was accidentally dropped. It had a slider for fast forward and rewind. In 1965, I was only 2, lol.
Back in those days, the cassettes snapped into place with those 2 holes at the bottom. Pipe cleaners would probably get into the narrow pulleys better. (They stick make those?) I am also amazed the capacitors are still good.
Many thanks for making this video. I'm currently trying to get a Phillips 3302 working, have gotten as far as removing goop and putting in belts, but won't run as of yet. Probably (hopefully) it just needs a bit of lube.
Laying these flat without the back on, the brass part of the take up slipper pully rubs on the bench and gives the weird speed variations....I know because...💥
I had one of those when I was young. Also had one that had a dial to switch from play, fast forward and rewind and a button you pushed for record.
Caliphone or Lloyds probably, that's what those round ones were like.
I happen to own a Philips EL-3301 from 1964. It is still working.
It’s slow because it needs real cleaning. Done by taking it apart and use Dasty. Btw the din sockets and plugs are numbered or marked with colors red and blue. There are two 5 pin sockets because they also support a radio, mains adapter, head phones and some more. They were made until the early seventies with minor changes.
It's slow because the motor is tired. Not about to take it totally apart as the unit will never be used again. Just wanted to see if it would run.
Thank you for this educational video once again, greetings from the Netherlands.
The original cassette recorder was made in Holland, circa 1964.
I know that :) Hence the greetings from the Netherlands. Did you know that the size of the hole in the center of a compact disc is based on a (no longer used) coin from the Netherlands?
How did you not have the speed change when you adjusted the belts? I’m having a hard time getting the pressure roller to stay consistent when I took the screw out of the capstan. Have you run tomorrow this problem? Iv watched the video and replaced the belts how you did but can’t figure out what I did to make the cassette speed play so fast
This was my 'kiddie' tape recorder. mine was the Wollensak-badged version and it was brown. Speed fluctuations were ALWAYS a problem with this unit!. Depending on how 'hard' you push the lever to 'PLAY". The speed can be tweaked using the tiny pot on the small PC board near the flywheel.
I got a Phillips n2214 bought it for cheap years ago and used it with a bc micro still works perfect made in austria from about 1976 to 78 i believe .
I like vintage technology and electronics very cool
I was cringing while watching you clean out that black goo, it gets everywhere!
I did a similar job on a Philips open reel deck, I used lighter fluid & meths to clean up both the deck and my hands.
It seems that this is par for the course with Philips recorders, I have the same cassette recorder somewhere, no doubt it is in a similar state to yours by now....
I still have one....somewhere
Excellent video!!!!. Please could you tell me 12voltsvids, apart from the 440-hertz tone, how do you get the other sound from the Philips to match it with the 440-hertz tone? The second and third question, if I may ask you, is about the electric supply. All the adapters I find have double polarity so I am worried if I could damage the Philips if i used the wrong one. It doesn't damage any of my other recorders when using the wrong one, they just don't work when using the wrong one, but, with my "professional sony wm-d6" devices, it damages the speed system. The third question is, would it be possible to adapt a security mechanism autostop to avoid damaging tapes? Thank you very much in advance for your reply.
Plugging in the incorrect polarity will damage equipment. The only time it won't is if your adapter current is below the max current of the components in the circuit.
Keith Richards used this to record his acoustic guitar tracks for "Jumpin' Jack Flash" and "Street Fighting Man."
I bet many did back them to try out ideas.
What size belts did you use? I’m fixing mine and can’t find the info on the belt sizes
The DIN plugs were "standardized" so Philips followed that convention. The mic plug could also be used for patch cord input. 2 pins on one side were input and 2 were line output with common on the 5th pin. The second DIN socket was used for switching and the third for speaker/earphone.
I had dozens of these pass through my hands over the year, many branded Wollensak and VM. There were 2 versions, btw - Germanium and silicon. Yours is the germanium from what I can see. Wollensak units were tan in color and VM versions had unique shells with a big fixed chrome handle. They shell was usually black.
I dreaded seeing these in the waiting for service line for the same reason yours is a mess - melting belts. The tires seldom were an issue but I did keep some on hand.
These were basic things back then but you can't get anything built like this today. even "pro" stuff.".
Correct!
The DIN plug system was standardized and Philips didn't start using RCA/tulip/cinch connectors until the late 1970s.
The 180 degree plug was for audio in and out; pin 2 in the middle was ground, pin 1 was microphone and pin 3 was line in and out. Philips made their mono cassette recorders compatible with stereo systems so the sockets have the optional pins 4 and 5 which are for the right channel in a stereo setup. Of course they're tied together in this recorder.
The 240 degree DIN connector is for the microphone switch that stops and starts the motor. If nothing is plugged in there, a contact in the socket shorts the two contacts that go to the switch. There was also a 9V mains power supply that could be connected to the 240 degree plug. I don't remember what the other contacts are used for, if they were.
The third DIN socket is to connect a speaker. It also has a built-in switch to turn the internal speaker off.
Philips reused the mechanism of this recorder in many other recorders. I had a cassette recorder with "real" tape controls (no thumb killer) and internally, the mechanism was exactly the same, up to and including the part where the thingy would be moved forward to start the tape, back to stop, left to rewind and right to fast forward.
I also saw a crippled playback-only version once that was also identical inside, but the recording parts were missing and I think it also couldn't rewind. It has been used in the "Evoluon" technology museum which was created by Philips in their home town Eindhoven (where I lived too). The building is still there, it looks like a flying saucer, but it's in use for something else now.
By the way I think the speed problems were because of age and because when you put it right side up with the bottom cover removed, the white pulley with the brass top (and a slip coupling in between) gets blocked by the workbench. When I had this recorder (and its relatives) in the 1970s and 1980s, I never had any problems with excessive wow and flutter.
Sony manufactured almost this same machine for Lafayette Electronics in '66 or '67 but the ff and rew locked and the use the mini phone and submini jacks for mic and sw respectively. I had one of them when I was in college !
Cleaning old belts on the mechanics of these cassette recorders is the nastiest thing there is. As a repairman, I have done this operation several times.
05/28/2019:
I have saved one of the same model (EL 3302/00) made in Holland for 50 years which could be introduced to a fixed base in the car to listen to it with the car speakers. In this video I saw how to change the straps because mine has them broken. Can you tell me the size of the straps ?.
Thank you.
Just bought one, yesterday. 2 mikes, transformer and case for 25 Aus dollars. In 1965, this thing would have been the zenith of audio sophistication for the debonair dude about town.
Hello
Congratulations on your tutorial.
I have the same recorder, Philips EL 3302.
I did your same job, after cleaning the pulleys I put the new straps, I clean the heads with alcohol but not any audio output.
What can it be ? can you help me ?
THANK YOU
Giovanni (Italy)
thanks
I owned one of those around early 1970ies :)
I have an old JCPenney Cassette player/recorder and can’t seem to find ANY info on it anywhere. Model 3537. Have you ever seen one of these or worked on one? I’d love to get it back up and running. The play switch clicks off after about 5 seconds of playback.
Generally (and not knowing your model here in the UK), I would guess that your machine has autostop. What is happening, is that there is no back tension on the supply (left) spool owing to the belt requiring replacement. The machine is therefore going into autostop to protect the tape from tangling & being damaged.
Richard (UK)
I've seen this unit one time at Savers (Value Village)
What's the name of the music on your test tape? I like it a lot.
musicbakery.com/star-walk/
I have the side buttons (control buttons) repaired from my Philips TV, there was just plugged loose.
First comment on the video! Keep up the great work :) Matt, Nova Scotia
My first cassette recorder circa 1971. They were made for quite a few years. I sold mine in 1975, after it went to Australia with us and back to London UK. A friend here in Australia had two which he used extensively for recording DX reception of TV and FM. He still has them although they both need repairs. He does have a bag of heads which are prone to wear because most of the head is ceramic. I was annoyed when I went to a Philips stockist in Finchley to get the wall wart only to be told they don't have it. I never got one. From memory it plugs in the 270deg socket so you can't use the switch on the mic. Be careful you don't lose the flat spring that holds the control "key" in. I wonder if it would sound much better with a modern cassette, the cassettes in the 70s were not brilliant compared to a 1990s TDK for instance. The 180 deg socket is also for line in/out. I did have a 3pin to 5pin cable that came with it but never got a DIN to phono which would have been more useful. Main complaint was the DIN connectors.
The 270 deg socket is 6 pins but the 180 deg were made in 5 and 6 pin variants.
Shame that didn't appear to be available in the UK.
Hi, I am trying to restore one of these but the audio output is lacking clarity. Would you have any information about the heads? Do you know if you can still buy them?
All I can suggest is trying ebay, maybe find a non working machine and hope the heads are still good.
@@Wenlocktvdx will do, cheers!
totally would be what my brother would have had, recording his rude words to various songs on in the 60-70s when he was about 8-10, hes nearly 60 now, and luckily for me , i digitised one of those tapes :D
Cleaning Electronics how do you recommend cleaning the touch screen navigation system like I have my new car some people say alcohol and water to clean the plastic screen on a temp caught some say microfiber I don't want to damage my my touch screen in my car
Jason JJ Cruz
I would just use a microfiber type cloth to clean it no chemicals of if it is badly soiled mist some windex onto the cloth to make it slightly damp and use that to wipe
I like phillips set thay are coool
My dad had one of these as the first cassette recorder/player in our house. From memory, if you bought the mains power supply separate unit it also used the "remote control" DIN socket/plug to connect. What I cant remember is whether it had an arrangement so you could use remote control at the same time as mains power. This link shows the schematic which seems to confirm the mains power supply connection - vintage-technics.ru/Philips%20EL%203302/circuit-Philips_EL_3302.JPG
i bought two of these on ebay today for just 20 euros! Seller says that both unit's motors spin up but the tape is not moving. so i think it'll be a molten belt in both of them.
They revert back to their tar state...I have had those rubber rewind /FF tires melt also... those you cannot get... I usually get a o-ring and super glue it to the wheel ... seems to work ok...if you get lucky the original tire sat in a groove on the wheel those you don't have to glue on...I usually use rubbing alcohol to clean the old rubber out
Flat heads screws! , when did they start using Phillip head screws in Products?
iv'e had 3 of these ... they are very good.... line in..line out... mike in... stop go... speaker out ect...also I bootlegged the stones with a Sony ECM-21.... where is that tape
1967 that unit
That was likely expensive new and built to last. I saw one used in a Wurlitzer cassette jukebox
Funny to see that belt smeared all over the place. It seems to me that this is a common sight for you? An old 70s Braun cassette player that I fixed last year for a friend had the very same problem. I expected a worn out or ripped belt but not that kind of a sticky mess...
Unfortunately I have seen this too many times and it is always a challenge to get that black goo off the fingers and tools.
2nd comment! Plugs before the jacks we know as standard for audio equipment today. Woah.
- more *than* enough
Yikes. You kept using crapped up Qtips when I would have just ditched one for another fresh swab.
Hello how putting battery ? Please
That was 445Hz, close enough! A simple way to test is to use your phone with a guitar tuner app or a spectrum analyzer app.
That should have been 440, the "A" 440 hz tuning tone on youtube i used as a reference. Yes I know a tuner app will do it, I took the tuner app of my phone as it was eating the battery even when it wasn't active. So many apps just sit there and do things in the background, so I have removed the majority of them. I usually use my scope as it has a counter built in.
At least the door in one piece
Philips in better times!
the 2 plugs were so that when the typist was typing up the dictation she would have had a foot pedal to control playback
logical !
The moment I saw Philips I knew it was going to have gooey belts... Yummy...
Protip: Put the device in the freezer first, then the goo should chip off pretty easily.
PileOfEmptyTapes
Frost spray works great too but not on plastic unless you want them to break.
I was actually thinking about doing that with one of my VCRs but I knew it would break something. Yeah maybe I should try frost spray when it comes to gooey belts. Thanks for the tip.
I have it open, in front of me, right now. I just cleaned out the melted belts. Black hands. It is exactly the same. Same piece of belt stuck to the plate over the motor. I'm about to put my new belts on and see if it works. Heads, please be okay...
Those old belts were nasty. Use baby oil to clean your fingers. Works like magic.
@@12voltvids Thanks. I just powered it up and the transport is going but there's no sound coming out. Any ideas? Actually, the motor isn't working. Looks like I was gypped.
Paul D Clifford where do you get the belts from?
Resgerr eBay. $12 from Portugal. Seller is web_spare_parts
I have 2 of them. But condition isn't great. No microphones.
What a mess with that belt ! such a beautiful machine ruined by that black goo. Please use tweezer to remove pieces of belt and clean with ammonia window cleaner, it will completely wash away the melted rubber.
I did get 99% of the old rubber. IPA does a good job of removing it.
next time try ammonia window cleaner, it is very much effective on melted rubber. I had to clean a whole walkman from melted rubber and only with ammonia I got clean flywheels.
Made in 1965. Last used 1971. lol
That belt "goo" is the WORST.
Got pretty dirty inside lmao.
Pot still make noises at 29:32 after cleaning. You closed the unit without making job fully done. This is not what we used to see from you.
well that's because I don't really care if there's a slight scratch in the pot after cleaning because I'm never going to use this machine ever. It sits on the shelf on display the new belt I put in has probably melted by now because it hasn't been turned on since I changed the belt on it. It's for static display only I would never record or play anything on something this archaic. The only reason why it's not in the bin is it was because it was my late father-in-law's that he used to record sound on when he was making sound movies back in the early sixties they used to use it to record sound effects and stuff on so it has sentimental value to my wife. But it's not like it's ever going to get used. It's just like all the old Bakelite and wooden a.m. and shortwave radios that I've restored that I get cheap and repair. I'm not going to ever use them to listen to I just collect them. They sit on a shelf in my living room on display. If I've got someone over I might take them down and plug them in and tune them up and show how they sound but I'm not running these units to listen to. They're far too valuable to run up countless hours especially the tube rigs that many of the tubes are obsolete and can never be replaced.
You should have used alcohol to remove old belts right from the beginning, not dry qtips, you only made it worse!
Yes, completely agree with that. I was a radio technician those years! And all parts have been blacked now, because he's got black fingers. He never learned how to repair such recorders! Also the spray used to get rid off the cracks in the sound will not help this way. These cracks come from the motor itself!
@@danvoller8793 If the motor is with mechanical governor (centrifugal speed regulator) then yes, these motors make lot noise, I had recorder which motor was producing crackling in speaker.
Belt gunk, yuck, messy stuff, nicely made device
This was very painful to watch :-D Why don't you just dismantle it and put the gooey parts in an ultrasonic cleaner!
Do you have an ultrasonic cleaner because I certainly do not and I am not about to pay someone else to do it. Your comments just prove you are a troll.
I hate those crap belts cus they always make a terrible mess ... they used to make them beter grade and didn't desintegrade like that but new ones are aweful crap
Obsolete technology. A lot of background noise.
Bad sound quality. And they are not sold.
If I want to buy a cassette deck there are no for
sale or they are very bad.Best Fiio X-3,X-5....
Troll alert. Now we know where the thumbs down come from.
@@12voltvids
I am not a troll. What makes me angry is that there is not a single deck cassette for sale. New, not second-hand.I was trying to replace a belt with a 1991 cassette, it is difficult. If it is a simple cassette it is easy, but the more sophisticated the more difficult.
I'm over 50 years old, I grew up with the cassette.
@@Jose-rodriguez87
When you post the exact same comment in multiple videos what do you expect.
They have not made new quality cassette decks in a long time. The reason is simple, because nobody bought them when they still made them. That a rule of business. If it is no longer profitable then dont make them. Look at the car industry in the US right now. People are not buying sedans, they are buying trucks and SUVs so the industry has stopped making cars, and now focusing on SUVs and trucks. They go where the profit in.
GM is only making 2 car models, the Camaro and Corvette and Ford has stopped all car production except for the Mustang. Those car models consistently sell, and they continue to make them. VCRs had the same fate. Nobody was buying new ones so they stopped making them.
So you are faces with old cassette decks, many that will be well worn. The collectors that have good machines are mostly hanging onto them, and those that do come up go for top dollar, because there are people that are willing to pay for them. I am currently working on a McIntosh DVD / SACD player that was made in 2004 that the guy that just bought it paid a small fortune for, but it was an American made high end piece, that sold for thousands when it was new and he knew what he was getting into. I had to change the loading belt. A fairly involved job.