I mean, I'm Pushing 14ns with my demo lock, just play what you want. Tier list at the end of the day just make whoever is on the Lfg less willing to invite you
Holy is fun but theres only 1 person in the world that has cleared higher than 14-15s if u look at the spec leaderboards. Basically u'll never get tempered hero as holy. Thats why this game sucks. But at least u can switch to disc without rerolling.
@@mixelplxsdad2705 theres only 2 holy priest in 0.1% title range out of 450 or so healers. Essentially u have a higher chance of winning the lottery than reaching tempered hero as holy priest. Dont give people false hope, its complete dogshit. Ud have a hard time even getting into 12s. Just declined (or ignored) over and over.
@@kerkertrandov459 You first said only 1 person has cleared a 14-15. Then I prove you wrong and say actually on raider IO many have completed 16s, and a few 17s. Everything you're saying is incorrect, and anyone who likes your comment is just as stupid.
@@kerkertrandov459 you sau 1 completed 14-15, I prove you wrong, many have cleared 16-17s, now you continue being belligerent. there is no validity to your comments. You're an angry individual. Of course DISC will get the insta invites. AND? no ones forcing you to play holy bud. I do it because it's a challenge. Something you probably can't comprehend from this feeble generation.
I main Blood DK, the buffs to Deathbringer were insane. We do a lot of dmg now. Def not C tier. We also bring battle rez, best self-healing and excellent best mob controll.
This is what I'm saying. I'd love to have more tankiness so we don't have dance dance hp bar. But the self heals, CDs and dps is insane in my opinion. Especially in AoE situations if you pop you Blood Plague correctly
"best self-healing" doesn't mean anything except you have to take all the damage to heal through it. compare that to a prot warrior who simply does not take the damage, or prot pala with 1000 mitigation tools. actually taking the damage leaves you vulnerable sometimes. sure you bring a brez, so do prot pala and bear. so that isn't relevant because out of those 3 options blood dk is last every time. your mob control is good this season because grips are op, when blizz decide grips don't matter anymore then dk's only utility is useless for a while. they have to buff blood really hard when they want it to be meta
@@liamdavies2823 valid points brother blood definetly needs buffs however for pugging i think blood is best because you literally undependent on you healer.
@@flyingraijin5867 you're not, because you're vulnerable to damage, because you have to actually take it to heal through it lol i just explained this. the best tanks for pugging right now are prot pala followed by prot warrior followed by bear. after that, the other 3 are just as bad as each other. In a coordinated group brewmaster is insane. sure, blood might theoretically be the best for pugging, but tuning decides which is actually the best. sry lol
I haven't had a single DH tank that didn't melt like crazy in 10+ keys. Also Mistweaver is the most slept on class, if tuned in to ranged misweaver you're missing out on some damage but get the most insane spot healing.
Guardian druid B tier what? Its the 3rd most represented tank in top 0.1% range, only behind pala and warrior. Its represented more than vdh and blood dk COMBINED. Its also the easiest tank to play, so less prone to fucking up like those palas that run in and die from a few white mobs.
I think the major problem of holy is its healing profile in this season, because it relies on st healing while this season is strongly demanding on aoe healing (which also explains why disc is so good rn since aoe healing is its speciality). I hope that holy will quite quickly get a rework that will enhance its aoe healing and its healing profile
I agree. Trying to lightweave people up when heavy aoe is happening is hell and Sanctify does like 300k to everyone when they have millions of hp. I think if it were stronger it would be much easier
@@leondavies9735 i remember wanting to play holy in DF S3, i started gearing it just before it got a huge round of buffs and goddamn it felt amazing for the rest of the season and i got to 3.1k on it. then it fell off slightly in S4 now it's just dead. really sad, it can definitely work in m+ it just needs buffing beyond belief. it was meta in SL S4
@@leondavies9735 honestly the most fun i have ever had healing in the 14 years i've played. the free renews... why they weren't implemented into the talents/hero talents i'll never know
@ those free renews would really help with aoe now. I’ve been flamed by dps so many times for them dying in the aoe phases when I don’t have halo on cd because there’s just little you can do apart from heal flash heal everyone 😂
there is no tier list for raids, you can do 8/8 hc and 8/8 myhtic with every class and every specialization. Raid tier list is a non existent thing, even 19 dev evo + a tank can do 8/8 myhtic
Mate the UI at looks atrocious XD, 40% of you screen is covered with stuff you cannot even see the mobs you are fighting you just see the UI kekw. Despite the nosia inducig UI the video was very informative! Cheers!
Yea every tank is viable and good if piloted correctly but there aint no reason tiering them. Like gap between all tanks compare to prot pal makes all other tanks equal.
Why bear is B tier and vdh A tier look raiderio bear have more rio than vdh and bdk combined idk idk and vdh it's not that strong it's same lvl than monk and bdk
11.0.5. changes for MM were horrible, we got drastically nerfed, one of our hero talents is terrible to play and weak, the other feels better gamewise but hopelessly undertuned. MM hunters are dying in m+, I got no idea where you get your fancy information from.
Ha...ret pally the best because you healers have been suckinn..making me think about healing..no good..i heal myself 95 percent of the time..smh..tanks be killing it..healers use to be the tanks and be saving parties..this never happens anymore..i do more saving with my pally than these healers with my rez too..this is all personal experience..
Every frost dk i played with hugely underperforms 600 to 700k dps last one +7 with my alts team fricking 390k dps. I put ret to s tier every time before frosr dk.
Get ready to make a whole new video because of the massive upcoming patch. Next time try making relevant and TIMELY content. Terrible channel and no way anybody is paying for your sub
Ure dead, i still find plenty of people to play with on Ravencrest, usually getting instant invites as a tank unless i apply for +11 (1300 io rating here).
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omg i just remembered this channel exists... what happened to that funny australian guy that was killing it all of DF??
NGL that "before" shot @0:30 looked way better than the "after" lol
I mean, I'm Pushing 14ns with my demo lock, just play what you want. Tier list at the end of the day just make whoever is on the Lfg less willing to invite you
Facts
I'm proud knowing I play the worst healer in the game (holy)
Makes me feel all the more proud when I beat something tough :)
Holy is fun but theres only 1 person in the world that has cleared higher than 14-15s if u look at the spec leaderboards. Basically u'll never get tempered hero as holy. Thats why this game sucks. But at least u can switch to disc without rerolling.
@@kerkertrandov459 No that's not right. THere are +17s and +16s on raider IO of holy clearing them. It's not one person either.
@@mixelplxsdad2705 theres only 2 holy priest in 0.1% title range out of 450 or so healers. Essentially u have a higher chance of winning the lottery than reaching tempered hero as holy priest. Dont give people false hope, its complete dogshit. Ud have a hard time even getting into 12s. Just declined (or ignored) over and over.
@@kerkertrandov459 You first said only 1 person has cleared a 14-15. Then I prove you wrong and say actually on raider IO many have completed 16s, and a few 17s.
Everything you're saying is incorrect, and anyone who likes your comment is just as stupid.
@@kerkertrandov459 you sau 1 completed 14-15, I prove you wrong, many have cleared 16-17s, now you continue being belligerent.
there is no validity to your comments. You're an angry individual. Of course DISC will get the insta invites. AND? no ones forcing you to play holy bud.
I do it because it's a challenge. Something you probably can't comprehend from this feeble generation.
Done all +11 on Brew, i love it
Lmk at much higher keys
Next must be “what class to pick to start new expansion - The War Withon” video
I just waited video like this, thank you! I will be glad if you release more videos on this channel!
I main Blood DK, the buffs to Deathbringer were insane. We do a lot of dmg now. Def not C tier. We also bring battle rez, best self-healing and excellent best mob controll.
This is what I'm saying. I'd love to have more tankiness so we don't have dance dance hp bar. But the self heals, CDs and dps is insane in my opinion. Especially in AoE situations if you pop you Blood Plague correctly
Yeah I actually laughed out loud when they put BDK in C tier
"best self-healing" doesn't mean anything except you have to take all the damage to heal through it. compare that to a prot warrior who simply does not take the damage, or prot pala with 1000 mitigation tools. actually taking the damage leaves you vulnerable sometimes. sure you bring a brez, so do prot pala and bear. so that isn't relevant because out of those 3 options blood dk is last every time. your mob control is good this season because grips are op, when blizz decide grips don't matter anymore then dk's only utility is useless for a while. they have to buff blood really hard when they want it to be meta
@@liamdavies2823 valid points brother blood definetly needs buffs however for pugging i think blood is best because you literally undependent on you healer.
@@flyingraijin5867 you're not, because you're vulnerable to damage, because you have to actually take it to heal through it lol i just explained this. the best tanks for pugging right now are prot pala followed by prot warrior followed by bear. after that, the other 3 are just as bad as each other. In a coordinated group brewmaster is insane. sure, blood might theoretically be the best for pugging, but tuning decides which is actually the best. sry lol
I haven't had a single DH tank that didn't melt like crazy in 10+ keys. Also Mistweaver is the most slept on class, if tuned in to ranged misweaver you're missing out on some damage but get the most insane spot healing.
A good VDH is definitely very strong.
Guardian druid B tier what? Its the 3rd most represented tank in top 0.1% range, only behind pala and warrior. Its represented more than vdh and blood dk COMBINED. Its also the easiest tank to play, so less prone to fucking up like those palas that run in and die from a few white mobs.
Was a long time subscriber but had to cancel skill capped sub due to no updates to content. Was a shame, some good class guides.
I think the major problem of holy is its healing profile in this season, because it relies on st healing while this season is strongly demanding on aoe healing (which also explains why disc is so good rn since aoe healing is its speciality). I hope that holy will quite quickly get a rework that will enhance its aoe healing and its healing profile
I agree. Trying to lightweave people up when heavy aoe is happening is hell and Sanctify does like 300k to everyone when they have millions of hp. I think if it were stronger it would be much easier
@@leondavies9735 i remember wanting to play holy in DF S3, i started gearing it just before it got a huge round of buffs and goddamn it felt amazing for the rest of the season and i got to 3.1k on it. then it fell off slightly in S4 now it's just dead. really sad, it can definitely work in m+ it just needs buffing beyond belief. it was meta in SL S4
@@liamdavies2823 that was the season I swapped from rdruid to holy priest it was amazing
@@leondavies9735 honestly the most fun i have ever had healing in the 14 years i've played. the free renews... why they weren't implemented into the talents/hero talents i'll never know
@ those free renews would really help with aoe now. I’ve been flamed by dps so many times for them dying in the aoe phases when I don’t have halo on cd because there’s just little you can do apart from heal flash heal everyone 😂
01:53 video starts
I was just checking the other day and nothing, what a surprise
When was this written? There weren't big changes to specs this week?
Yea seems like they started recording this video like 3-4 weeks ago and didnt think about this lmao
Do you guys have wow classic addon package? Btw I am a premium subscriber and I really like the SC addon package.
Waiting for a video with a tier list for raids!
there is no tier list for raids, you can do 8/8 hc and 8/8 myhtic with every class and every specialization. Raid tier list is a non existent thing, even 19 dev evo + a tank can do 8/8 myhtic
Look at wowhead and icyveins then
@@godhand4209 there are like 8 specs doing worse damage than dev evoker btw
i must be playing a Different game because ive been seeing Demo and Destro locks do AMAZING in high keys.
I main sub rogure and fire mage :) first time rerolled to assa
Only weakness Holy Paladin has this season is not having a decurse
Isn’t season basically dead? Should have made one for 11.0.7
The survival hunters platser profile, does anyone know which one it is? Possible share?
I would change the disc and mw spots.
Aug needs it's mastery buff changed from versatility to just a % increased dmg/healing buff
But that's what versatility does?
@@alihorda Yes, but without the damage reduction
Mate the UI at looks atrocious XD, 40% of you screen is covered with stuff you cannot even see the mobs you are fighting you just see the UI kekw. Despite the nosia inducig UI the video was very informative! Cheers!
I’ve never seen a disc do 800k dps in a mythic plus but I’ve seen several mw do that. SMH 🤦
Could you do some updates for m+ pls
Me would uses Subtlety Rogue as my main alt: 👀
thx
Why is almost nobody posting content for this expansion? Does anybody still play retail?
Many do. Just pug aspect is hell. So people do guild /friend content then play classic or level alts.
Yea every tank is viable and good if piloted correctly but there aint no reason tiering them. Like gap between all tanks compare to prot pal makes all other tanks equal.
Is the UI worth it gents?
Right on time guys, it's so good to have these tier lists 6 weeks into the patch when M+ is dead.
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Why bear is B tier and vdh A tier look raiderio bear have more rio than vdh and bdk combined idk idk and vdh it's not that strong it's same lvl than monk and bdk
What’s the point of this tier list now, with 11.0.7 coming in just 10 days?
Funny, i play brewmaster monk and sub rogue 😂
idk why is that funny xd
Damn great content but seems super late. Maybe Im wrong.
Maybe after almost 10 years I will finally be lucky enough to see the WW monk in S tier ... NOT , whelp my main always sucks I guess.
11.0.5. changes for MM were horrible, we got drastically nerfed, one of our hero talents is terrible to play and weak, the other feels better gamewise but hopelessly undertuned. MM hunters are dying in m+, I got no idea where you get your fancy information from.
Ha...ret pally the best because you healers have been suckinn..making me think about healing..no good..i heal myself 95 percent of the time..smh..tanks be killing it..healers use to be the tanks and be saving parties..this never happens anymore..i do more saving with my pally than these healers with my rez too..this is all personal experience..
Isn’t this hella late, it’s 11.0.7
Every frost dk i played with hugely underperforms 600 to 700k dps last one +7 with my alts team fricking 390k dps. I put ret to s tier every time before frosr dk.
then you must be playing with dogshit dks sir
First of all they bad, and ret is easiest class melee, second mobs die Quick on 7s so breath is meh
yeah ehm...tier lists arent for low keys. they are for title range keys, unless stated.
Priest utility is outstanding? Wtf lol
It's been 4 months lol
M+ is garbage no one cares about meta. PUNT THIS SEASON AND GIVE ME MY MONEY BACK BLUZ
This "guide" is too generalized with it's information to be useful to anyone.
Get ready to make a whole new video because of the massive upcoming patch. Next time try making relevant and TIMELY content. Terrible channel and no way anybody is paying for your sub
this is a terrible list
The game is dead
Ure dead, i still find plenty of people to play with on Ravencrest, usually getting instant invites as a tank unless i apply for +11 (1300 io rating here).
Game is dead haha that's funny when its still the most played MMORPG in the world for the past 30years running.