All i can think when I watch these videos is this guy looks like a smaller pale version of Johnny Joey Jones from FOX News, and sounds exactly like him.
*The 7 Advantages of a "Linear Compensator":* 1) The shooter basically no longer experiences any concussive blast. 2) Makes shooting much less scary and more fun for new and timid shooters. 3) A very slight reduction in volume at the shooter's ear. 4) Redirects the blast and noise towards the target, further disorienting them (and not you) in an indoor defensive scenario. 5) Less disorienting to shooters next to you (as would be the case in a tight range without walls or shoot-house/operator-type exercise). 6) Draws out a rifle's recoil impulse such that it feels less like a sharp (and possibly painful) jab and move of a firm but dull push. 7) They look cool. These are the most underrated muzzle devices IMHO. If local laws and overall length isn't a concern, the cheapest "linear compensator" (a misnomer as these don't appreciably reduce muzzle rise; more accurate terms include "blast diverter" or "blast can") is far superior to a thread protector. The Midwest Industries one is fantastic and very reasonably priced.
@@ahumm8280 yeah, I have a 7.5in 300blackout. It's not bad to shoot. I have a KAK Slimline Flash-Can Now to your point. Don't shoot a round that needs a 20inch barrel to achieve full powder burn. That 7.5in 300blackout will still produce dramatically less fireball and blast vs a 7.5in 5.56
May I offer a suggestion for a follow-on video? Specifically - and I have been shooting for six decades, but I purchased my first rife with a threaded barrel only a few years ago - how about a video that begins with the statement “well, your just bought a firearm with a threaded barrel,” and then goes on to: - Explain the several options (suppressors, muzzle breaks, flash hiders, etc.), - Their uses, advantages and disadvantages - Their approximate cost ranges - Legalities (if appropriate), - And perhaps most important, the “trades offs” between no device installed and among the several types of devices (hypothetical examples: X will be very loud but will mitigate muzzle-flash, while Y will direct hot, high pressure gases away from the shooter but may cause considerable detritus when firing prone, and no installed device will not attenuate sound, flash and gas pressure but will modestly balance all of these affects. and so forth). My hope here would be a Brownells’ fundamental primer - no, not the kind used in centerfire cartridges 😏 - that allows the novice to understand what device - if any - best suits his needs and under what circumstances. THANKS for considering this.
On short barrels, these can create little fireballs and redirect the concussion of the round towards the target as well. If you get fairly long ones, they can also reduce the sound a few decibels to the ears of the shooter. The one I got, reduces vertical and horizontal recoil but increases felt recoil to my shoulder. Which you can train to handle.
@vegeta420z there's so much unburnt powder with some of these short barrel rigs, especially some of the 308s, that you can totally generate a ring of fire out the front end. It kooks like a fireball to the shooter, but if you have a buddy with a high speed, it's usually a ring.
Very informative! All the videos from this channel are great. Short, to the point, and not full of B.S. From beginner to advanced intermediate questions are answered without being talked down to. If you're new to guns I recommend watching all of them.
Im glad you all mention the blast. My ar at 16 inches and an a2 hider doesnt seem that loud but i always feel like ive been beat after 60 or 70 rounds. Its that blast you feel. It rocks my ears even with double ear protection. 762 no issues but that little 223 rocks my noggin. Moving the blast forward really helped me. Its still loud but you dont feel it in your neck
I recently put one of these on my 14.5" with a SiCo ASR three-prong flash hider. The difference in the concussive blast felt/heard is significant. Yes, your rifle is still louder than all of the pistols around you at the range, and you do lose some of the muzzle rise benefits of a standard muzzle device, but you're no longer making anyone's ears bleed by throwing the concussion into their lanes. Rather than pay the full price for a SiCo linear comp., I found that Kaw Valley makes one that fits the ASR mount. Despite not using thread locker or an O-ring on it, it didn't throw itself down the range after 100 rounds, so I'd call that a great success!
Ebay has a lot of these, Kaw valley, Joe Bobs blast can, Vang's Styles & many copies. You get a good look at them. They are quieter than a recoil compensator but what isn't? Some have small holes around the exit hole, some have rounded grooves around the exit hole. Some use just a large can with the brake inside, gas hits the inside the can & exists out the front. Helps with concussion blast to the ears & face & at the bench with other shooters beside you.
My ZRO Delta .223 wylde 10.5” has the TopHat muzzle break with the screw on diverter. It tucks into the hand guard and really looks awesome. As far as accuracy goes, I’m getting well under 1” 5 shot groups at 100 yards with ease. It may kick just a tad more than my 14.5” and 16” rifles but seriously not even close to being an issue if you can even notice it.
Thank you for this video. I just want to point out what people are referring to as a flash can. I know you didn't specifically use this term, however the Midwest Industries device is what people most people would call it. I'm thankful that Midwest did not call theirs a flash can, rather a blast can. New York and California is in most need of this type of device because it is not a muzzle brake, flash hider or suppressor. It’s purpose is to protect the shooter from the blast - hot gases and sound. It would make sense that a device that will allow people to shoot more safely is nothing "evil" or "bad". People should stop calling it a “flash can”. This creates the misunderstanding that it's another form of a flash hider - it DOES NOT hide flash in any way. It doesn't protect against rise or recoil (it might even create more recoil) and definitely does not suppress sound... it simply pushes hot gases and sound forward. A more proper name would be a "blast protector". Using the word “protector” should not seem so evil for the legislators to use it against us, especially when their trying to strip our rights. This is a Blast Protector. Thanks for the great video! I'm a big, long time customer of Brownells. It would be nice if you created a video about these specifically describing their purpose.
How effective are the linear compensators at reducing sound levels? Maybe do a range type video with a decibel meter where a bystander’s ear would be (as opposed to the traditional locations of placing the decibel meter at the shooters ear and at the muzzle).
Thank you so much for making this video glad to see you guys take feedback seriously!! Now just need Franklin Armory to get you guys those 10/22 binary triggers and I'll be happy 😂😂😂
The term is Muzzle Brake ,or Compensator with Muzzle Blast Attenuator attachment, which some call a Blast-Can. I have RJ's Outpost MFB V2 caliber specific muzzle brake on all my AR uppers (made in Texas). They all have a three-baffle design like a Sure-Fire with upper comp-vent holes. At their rear each has a 13/16-16 course thread for the Attenuator to screw onto the brake bodies, all in Black Nitride. They run about $38 each for the brakes with crush washer, the cans about $25.
It would be great to see a comparison of these devices in some actual testing. Which is most effective at reducing blast and noise from the shooters perspective.
almost all linear compensators work well. I personalyl like kaw valley. watched some youtube videos where i guy did some sound testing. he said it was a bout a 3 decible reduction to the shooter whic is equal to cutting the sound pressure in half. sound is weird.... each 3db represents a doubling of the previous level.
as a CA cust, these looked promising (to a degree) of reducing sound to the shooter (me) in the event that i ever have to shoot a rifle in a small space. and since it's not a flash hider CA doesn't yet prohibit it.
they really do reduce blast and push the sound forward. from my understanding it reduces sound for the shooter by about half. It is still very loud but you cant stand right next to it and there will be no concussion.
He was making me so nervous leaning is arm and elbow on that gas tube. I know he knows his stuff when it comes to AR-15's but if that was me. My luck would be I'd bend my gas tube. Great video though thank y'all for great info and customer service
@@edmuirhead410 Yep, AT4 dunnage. a LAW is roughly the length of your fore arm, when collapsed. About the thickness of a tennis ball. If my memory serves me right.
Funny story. When I took my first ar out it has a muzzle brake and after I shut the first mag I kinda looked around and was wondering why the people on both sides of me left and sat on a bench behind me. Now I know. And after putting a flash hider on it I never want to go back to the brakes.
I got a couple questions. Might be ridiculous but here goes. 1. Pin and weld counting as barrel length even the super long boys? Might be good to contain muzzle flash and also prevent NFA inclusion. 2. Would the gas pressure affect the trajectory of the round enough to cause inaccuracy? Would a compensator handle this worse? thanks.
Sorry I’m a year late. Welding your muzzle device so that it’s fixed does count towards the length of your barrel. A 14 inch barrel would be considered an sbr, but with a 2” compensator welded on the front, your total length is 16”, making it a rifle legally. A lot of people do this with the standard a2 bird cage and a 14.5” barrel since the a2 adds about 1.5” to the barrel. Secondly, the gas from a linear compensator will not cause inaccuracy as the gas is diverted at an angle outward from the bullet. A regular compensator sends gas up to counter verticle recoil, and a regular muzzle brake sends gas out the sides to reduce felt recoil, so these won’t affect accuracy either other than to reduce your flinch on larger guns
The channeling of gas won't affect the projectile but putting anything heavy (like a surefire warden in my case) at the end of the muzzle will change barrel harmonics and could alter poi.
@tazerface8659 how are you enjoying your Warden? I just installed (pin & welded) one on my chopped 14.5" Ruger American Hunter in .308...I only had it out to the 100 yard range once, and it still groups great, sub MOA.. I didn't really pay attention to any other "effects" as I was primarily concerned with my groups. One things for sure, at max magnification, the reticle definitely jumps off target. My other .308's have Muzzle brakes, and they'll stay right on target after pulling the trigger....
Do these have some measurable sound reduction at the shooter’s ear? Could some of these perhaps reduce the effects of acoustic shock in a life or death scenario?
Concentrating the blast makes more flash, its just physics, unless you slow and cool it, but then it becomes a suppressor. Many of these are quick detach to flash hiders so you can choose which you need more in the moment.
I installed the Midwest Industries linear compensator on an AR-9 that I assembled (using all premium parts) and am very pleased. Shooting it at indoor range is a joy what with the blast and sound directed away from me.
i got a kaw valley linear on my 16" when i go to the range and now i got a midwest industries flash can on my 12.5 because i have a 12. ragna rail and the side blast would hit the tip of the rail without it on...both keeps me from getting dirty looks at the range lol
i think they changed it for one without a cage i remember trying to find it awhile back then i was going to get the strike industries oppressor but heard the weight is crazy on them so i just said screw it got a kaw valley on one and a midwest on my other
I don’t think compensator is a good word though, it pushes more of the blast forward only increasing recoil felt in the shoulder, there are compensators that shoot gases upwards, so it doesn’t hit others and helps reduce muzzle flip
nice Video and informative... as you listen to your followers..... please no music in the background while you speak..... btw... an Video shown that in live action would be nice to see whats the different functios are.... or how the operate in real.... thx
I know you guys aren’t lawyers but I would like to 3D print one of these for one of my guns that’s not threaded. How do I make sure it doesn’t get legally classified as a supressor because they reduce sound? Or can you just explain how they legally aren’t just ineffective suppressors? I’m certain it has to reduce overall noise to some degree..
It would seem that since these direct everything straight forward and away from the shooter, do these greatly increase felt recoil? Certainly would appear that it negates the intended advantage of anything you have installed, whether it be flash hider, compensator, or muzzle device.
@@samjones4772 Ok, that's definitely a little surprising just because I figured with the whole physics thing of "equal and opposite reaction" that it would definitely cancel out any good your compensator or muzzle brake were doing. I can see the point of them for a busy range, or definitely an indoor range, but other than that I would not think you would want it on.
The main reason for having one of these is to direct the concussion and the sound downrange away from you. The concussion and sound amplifies profoundly with every inch below 16 inches, not to mention how much closer to the shooters face It becomes.
For real! their new Mach 3 modular linear comp is beautiful, and probably out preforms any of these. I have had their Slim XL comp on my AR-9 for years and it helps a ton at the range or in the mountains, especially when you are shooting with or teaching new shooters. They feel a lot less intimidated when the concussion and sound of each shot is far lower or non existent.
i got a kaw valley on my 16 and a midwest on my 12.5.... i like the looks better and finish on the midwest but i like the performance better of my kaw valley, only thing sucks about kaws is after about 500 rounds they lose their finish while midwest still keeps their finish , but then again the kaw function to me beats them all
Hello. I love all the videos. Keep up the great work. My question is, will a Linear compensator affect the direct impingement system on my AR like a suppressor does? As in will it affect the gas system and cycling and will it make the action more dirty like a suppressor does?
Are linear compensators developed to redirect the muzzle device gases produced by attaching a Muzzle Brake or compensater? Having a detachable Blast deflector would give the option of forward deflection or muzzle stability, one or the other but not both at the same time, right?
I have a Ruger American Rifle 450 Bushmaster. I am wondering if you know the threading that I have? I would like to replace my muzzle break with a linear compensator. Thanks
do you need a crush washer for the direct thread compensators like the midwest industries? I have a Surefire Warden Direct Thread and was wondering if I needed a crush washer for the install.
Can I use the linear comp body on my AR-15 without a muzzle brake inside? My Springfield Armory Saint Edge came with a square shaped muzzle brake. Which is terrible at the range. I removed the muzzle brake and am considering buying just the linear comp body to attach to my Ar.
Hi, great videos. I have a quick question for you. I bought my son a Keltec RDB for his high school graduation because he was also accepted to a college to play division 2 football while taking his pre veterinary school courses. Anyway, proud father and should have bought a DD in 223 wylde. But I digress. The side blast out of his RDB is actually the only downfall for the rifle. No faikures with PMags or any brass ammo. What muzzle device would you recommend as a Christmas present? Also, do you carry the aftermarket for grip for the RDB?
I would get any linear comp don't get flash cans which was shown in this video any other muzzle devices like break,flash hider etc you're gonna feel the blast.
I bought the LANTAC dragon muzzle brake. I purchased from them their latest bmd but haven't gotten it yet. Would you do a review on their product please. Thanks, David.
Great explanation video do you have any follow up videos comparing compensators? I’m looking into linear comps and have been unable to find a trusted video on which one preforms the best at reducing sound for the shooter, in my case an AR pistol.
When using a linear compensator over a muzzle break do you lose the effectiveness of the muzzle break? Also if you use one over a flash hider does it concentrate the flash? Or are these just a fad to get us to spend more money on our rifles?
I just bought a Ruger PC Charger (9mm) I'm thinking that the Kaw Valley Precision would be my best choice.. i have not taken the PC Charger to the range yet due to weather concerns.(Raining heavy this spring) the barrel is only 6 1/2 inches long. I don't want any blowback in my face from a muzzle brake or traditional compensator. I think the linear Compensator is my best choice. What is your recommendation?
Converted my Ruger 57 into a CSM MP-57 PDW. gonna either buy a threaded barrel or thread my existing barrel for a blast can. I plan to use it as a car gun. Any suggested blast forward devices like these for when or if I have to use it without ear pro? I prefer the looks and the fact the surefire detaches so easily. Any suggestions? Are any better than others for 57?
What do they do to the effectiveness of the muzzle break when attached? How well do the linear muzzle breaks work compared to more conventional designs? Are they worth the expense?
@@jonathanrogers9961 yeah that what I though. It's a bit like if people wanted a muzzle brake because they are cool, then realized they function by blasting on the side, then install a device to tame that, hence preventing the muzzle brake to do it's job, as it's redirecting all the gas foward It looks like a solution to a non problem to me. If you don't like the blast just remove your muzzle brake. If you have the money get a supressor or a flash hider But maybe I'm wrong
With so many "devices" on the market how long before we get a spreadsheet with sizes of each model? Ive been comparing these for months and am still having a hard time finding one in the right length/width for my build. If you guys make it, we will buy.
If I’m making a linear comp at home what the deciding factor between a linear compensator and a suppressor If I take a monocore fuel filter type form 1 style kit and I open the end with multiple ports on the front like a kaw valley precision linear comp would that be enough to not need a form 1
Who else loves these quick, no-nonsense informative videos? Even on topics that I'm familiar with, I can't help but enjoy these.
Thank you!
Hi!
Did you know, what the brand on 2:29?
All i can think when I watch these videos is this guy looks like a smaller pale version of Johnny Joey Jones from FOX News, and sounds exactly like him.
i love them, super helpful
*The 7 Advantages of a "Linear Compensator":*
1) The shooter basically no longer experiences any concussive blast.
2) Makes shooting much less scary and more fun for new and timid shooters.
3) A very slight reduction in volume at the shooter's ear.
4) Redirects the blast and noise towards the target, further disorienting them (and not you) in an indoor defensive scenario.
5) Less disorienting to shooters next to you (as would be the case in a tight range without walls or shoot-house/operator-type exercise).
6) Draws out a rifle's recoil impulse such that it feels less like a sharp (and possibly painful) jab and move of a firm but dull push.
7) They look cool.
These are the most underrated muzzle devices IMHO. If local laws and overall length isn't a concern, the cheapest "linear compensator" (a misnomer as these don't appreciably reduce muzzle rise; more accurate terms include "blast diverter" or "blast can") is far superior to a thread protector. The Midwest Industries one is fantastic and very reasonably priced.
Regarding point number 6.... so blast diverters do indeed increase felt recoil in a weapon?
@@thesickening0169 technically yes, but it's more a bearable and less uncomfortable impulse.
I have a couple of inexpensive flash cans on a couple of my builds. I agree 100% all of your 7 points are true.
Anyone shoot a 7.5in ar? Hot loads render these almost useless!
@@ahumm8280 yeah, I have a 7.5in 300blackout. It's not bad to shoot. I have a KAK Slimline Flash-Can
Now to your point. Don't shoot a round that needs a 20inch barrel to achieve full powder burn. That 7.5in 300blackout will still produce dramatically less fireball and blast vs a 7.5in 5.56
May I offer a suggestion for a follow-on video? Specifically - and I have been shooting for six decades, but I purchased my first rife with a threaded barrel only a few years ago - how about a video that begins with the statement “well, your just bought a firearm with a threaded barrel,” and then goes on to:
- Explain the several options (suppressors, muzzle breaks, flash hiders, etc.),
- Their uses, advantages and disadvantages
- Their approximate cost ranges
- Legalities (if appropriate),
- And perhaps most important, the “trades offs” between no device installed and among the several types of devices (hypothetical examples: X will be very loud but will mitigate muzzle-flash, while Y will direct hot, high pressure gases away from the shooter but may cause considerable detritus when firing prone, and no installed device will not attenuate sound, flash and gas pressure but will modestly balance all of these affects. and so forth).
My hope here would be a Brownells’ fundamental primer - no, not the kind used in centerfire cartridges 😏 - that allows the novice to understand what device - if any - best suits his needs and under what circumstances.
THANKS for considering this.
All of this!
On short barrels, these can create little fireballs and redirect the concussion of the round towards the target as well. If you get fairly long ones, they can also reduce the sound a few decibels to the ears of the shooter. The one I got, reduces vertical and horizontal recoil but increases felt recoil to my shoulder. Which you can train to handle.
@vegeta420z there's so much unburnt powder with some of these short barrel rigs, especially some of the 308s, that you can totally generate a ring of fire out the front end. It kooks like a fireball to the shooter, but if you have a buddy with a high speed, it's usually a ring.
Very informative! All the videos from this channel are great. Short, to the point, and not full of B.S. From beginner to advanced intermediate questions are answered without being talked down to. If you're new to guns I recommend watching all of them.
Im glad you all mention the blast. My ar at 16 inches and an a2 hider doesnt seem that loud but i always feel like ive been beat after 60 or 70 rounds. Its that blast you feel. It rocks my ears even with double ear protection. 762 no issues but that little 223 rocks my noggin. Moving the blast forward really helped me. Its still loud but you dont feel it in your neck
I recently put one of these on my 14.5" with a SiCo ASR three-prong flash hider. The difference in the concussive blast felt/heard is significant. Yes, your rifle is still louder than all of the pistols around you at the range, and you do lose some of the muzzle rise benefits of a standard muzzle device, but you're no longer making anyone's ears bleed by throwing the concussion into their lanes. Rather than pay the full price for a SiCo linear comp., I found that Kaw Valley makes one that fits the ASR mount. Despite not using thread locker or an O-ring on it, it didn't throw itself down the range after 100 rounds, so I'd call that a great success!
Another useful, brief and informative video from Caleb and Brownells. Keep up the good work.
Very informative, I also like this dude’s chill voice and relaxed demeanor.
I like the tactical coffee sip at the end.
Ebay has a lot of these, Kaw valley, Joe Bobs blast can, Vang's Styles & many copies. You get a good look at them.
They are quieter than a recoil compensator but what isn't? Some have small holes around the exit hole, some have rounded grooves around the exit hole. Some use just a large can with the brake inside, gas hits the inside the can & exists out the front. Helps with concussion blast to the ears & face & at the bench with other shooters beside you.
My ZRO Delta .223 wylde 10.5” has the TopHat muzzle break with the screw on diverter. It tucks into the hand guard and really looks awesome. As far as accuracy goes, I’m getting well under 1” 5 shot groups at 100 yards with ease. It may kick just a tad more than my 14.5” and 16” rifles but seriously not even close to being an issue if you can even notice it.
I love my surefire warden. It helps when I am running practice courses for competition or anytime I want an unconventional position
Good info as usual. Thanks!
Thank you for this video. I just want to point out what people are referring to as a flash can. I know
you didn't specifically use this term, however the Midwest Industries device is what people most
people would call it. I'm thankful that Midwest did not call theirs a flash can, rather a blast can.
New York and California is in most need of this type of device because it is not a muzzle brake, flash
hider or suppressor. It’s purpose is to protect the shooter from the blast - hot gases and sound. It
would make sense that a device that will allow people to shoot more safely is nothing "evil" or "bad".
People should stop calling it a “flash can”. This creates the misunderstanding that it's another form
of a flash hider - it DOES NOT hide flash in any way. It doesn't protect against rise or recoil (it
might even create more recoil) and definitely does not suppress sound... it simply pushes hot gases and
sound forward.
A more proper name would be a "blast protector". Using the word “protector” should not seem
so evil for the legislators to use it against us, especially when their trying to strip our rights.
This is a Blast Protector. Thanks for the great video! I'm a big, long time customer of Brownells. It
would be nice if you created a video about these specifically describing their purpose.
I love the midwest industries blast can
"Ready in 3-2"....
"Wait, one second... I'd be more comfortable resting my arm on something a bit higher...... ok. Ready."
*instant sub*
🤣🤣🤣
It's like you were there! lol
How effective are the linear compensators at reducing sound levels? Maybe do a range type video with a decibel meter where a bystander’s ear would be (as opposed to the traditional locations of placing the decibel meter at the shooters ear and at the muzzle).
Good question
Thank you so much for making this video glad to see you guys take feedback seriously!! Now just need Franklin Armory to get you guys those 10/22 binary triggers and I'll be happy 😂😂😂
The term is Muzzle Brake ,or Compensator with Muzzle Blast Attenuator attachment, which some call a Blast-Can. I have RJ's Outpost MFB V2 caliber specific muzzle brake on all my AR uppers (made in Texas). They all have a three-baffle design like a Sure-Fire with upper comp-vent holes. At their rear each has a 13/16-16 course thread for the Attenuator to screw onto the brake bodies, all in Black Nitride. They run about $38 each for the brakes with crush washer, the cans about $25.
I was curious what you may have said about the one on table you never touched ? Thanks for doing these special purpose videos for us all .
You mentioned "Slip on devices" who makes them, would like contact information.
What about muzzle brakes for making it quieter without having to use a silencer for a AR-15?
It would be great to see a comparison of these devices in some actual testing. Which is most effective at reducing blast and noise from the shooters perspective.
almost all linear compensators work well. I personalyl like kaw valley. watched some youtube videos where i guy did some sound testing. he said it was a bout a 3 decible reduction to the shooter whic is equal to cutting the sound pressure in half. sound is weird.... each 3db represents a doubling of the previous level.
Google Muzzle brake shootout he tests about 100 different muzzle devices
Can't wait for the Surefire Warden to come back again
as a CA cust, these looked promising (to a degree) of reducing sound to the shooter (me) in the event that i ever have to shoot a rifle in a small space. and since it's not a flash hider CA doesn't yet prohibit it.
they really do reduce blast and push the sound forward. from my understanding it reduces sound for the shooter by about half. It is still very loud but you cant stand right next to it and there will be no concussion.
@@jonathanrogers9961 good to know. thanks for the info.
He was making me so nervous leaning is arm and elbow on that gas tube. I know he knows his stuff when it comes to AR-15's but if that was me. My luck would be I'd bend my gas tube. Great video though thank y'all for great info and customer service
Love the fact that there is what I think is a LAW just sitting right in the back ground.
Thats an at4 probably a discard or a trainer
@@edmuirhead410 Yep, AT4 dunnage. a LAW is roughly the length of your fore arm, when collapsed. About the thickness of a tennis ball. If my memory serves me right.
I like dirty looks at the range!
Funny story. When I took my first ar out it has a muzzle brake and after I shut the first mag I kinda looked around and was wondering why the people on both sides of me left and sat on a bench behind me. Now I know. And after putting a flash hider on it I never want to go back to the brakes.
Thanks for sharing the knowledge.
No compensator needed on that slick top my friend
Awesome!!
Love the 60s hair style.
I got a couple questions. Might be ridiculous but here goes.
1. Pin and weld counting as barrel length even the super long boys? Might be good to contain muzzle flash and also prevent NFA inclusion.
2. Would the gas pressure affect the trajectory of the round enough to cause inaccuracy? Would a compensator handle this worse?
thanks.
Sorry I’m a year late. Welding your muzzle device so that it’s fixed does count towards the length of your barrel. A 14 inch barrel would be considered an sbr, but with a 2” compensator welded on the front, your total length is 16”, making it a rifle legally. A lot of people do this with the standard a2 bird cage and a 14.5” barrel since the a2 adds about 1.5” to the barrel. Secondly, the gas from a linear compensator will not cause inaccuracy as the gas is diverted at an angle outward from the bullet. A regular compensator sends gas up to counter verticle recoil, and a regular muzzle brake sends gas out the sides to reduce felt recoil, so these won’t affect accuracy either other than to reduce your flinch on larger guns
@@jakeedgell591 thanks for taking the time to respond! I've done a lot of learning over the year personally lol
The channeling of gas won't affect the projectile but putting anything heavy (like a surefire warden in my case) at the end of the muzzle will change barrel harmonics and could alter poi.
@tazerface8659 how are you enjoying your Warden?
I just installed (pin & welded) one on my chopped 14.5" Ruger American Hunter in .308...I only had it out to the 100 yard range once, and it still groups great, sub MOA.. I didn't really pay attention to any other "effects" as I was primarily concerned with my groups.
One things for sure, at max magnification, the reticle definitely jumps off target. My other .308's have Muzzle brakes, and they'll stay right on target after pulling the trigger....
Casual Rocket Launcher in the background... Gotta love America! Haha
Do these have some measurable sound reduction at the shooter’s ear? Could some of these perhaps reduce the effects of acoustic shock in a life or death scenario?
That bazooka in the background.
AT-4 Trainer*
lmbo.. love how he sips the empty mug like there is something in it at the end.
Are there linear flash hiders out on the market? I would love turning my compensator into a flash hider with a simple QD device.
Concentrating the blast makes more flash, its just physics, unless you slow and cool it, but then it becomes a suppressor. Many of these are quick detach to flash hiders so you can choose which you need more in the moment.
I installed the Midwest Industries linear compensator on an AR-9 that I assembled (using all premium parts) and am very pleased. Shooting it at indoor range is a joy what with the blast and sound directed away from me.
I just like the AT4 in the corner
i got a kaw valley linear on my 16" when i go to the range and now i got a midwest industries flash can on my 12.5 because i have a 12. ragna rail and the side blast would hit the tip of the rail without it on...both keeps me from getting dirty looks at the range lol
Doesn't appear that VG6 Precision makes a cage device anymore.
i think they changed it for one without a cage i remember trying to find it awhile back then i was going to get the strike industries oppressor but heard the weight is crazy on them so i just said screw it got a kaw valley on one and a midwest on my other
Please repost this without background music.
I like the AT-4 there in the safe
An AT-4 in the cabinet? Nice. Is there a special page at Brownell's that list those?
I don’t think compensator is a good word though, it pushes more of the blast forward only increasing recoil felt in the shoulder, there are compensators that shoot gases upwards, so it doesn’t hit others and helps reduce muzzle flip
How does a muzzle device slipped over a muzzle break effekt recoil?
nice Video and informative... as you listen to your followers..... please no music in the background while you speak..... btw... an Video shown that in live action would be nice to see whats the different functios are.... or how the operate in real.... thx
Am I the only one that noticed the bazooka in the gun safe? 🤣
Loving the rocket launcher in the gun cabinet lol
I'd like to address the Elephant in the room. He has a rocket launcher in the safe. haha
I know you guys aren’t lawyers but I would like to 3D print one of these for one of my guns that’s not threaded. How do I make sure it doesn’t get legally classified as a supressor because they reduce sound? Or can you just explain how they legally aren’t just ineffective suppressors? I’m certain it has to reduce overall noise to some degree..
Don't used closed baffles or anything of the sort and you should be fine. These all have open front ends to keep them legal.
vegeta420z sounds like a trap but ok
Thanks
It would seem that since these direct everything straight forward and away from the shooter, do these greatly increase felt recoil? Certainly would appear that it negates the intended advantage of anything you have installed, whether it be flash hider, compensator, or muzzle device.
Greatly? No, not that much of an increase at all
@@samjones4772 Ok, that's definitely a little surprising just because I figured with the whole physics thing of "equal and opposite reaction" that it would definitely cancel out any good your compensator or muzzle brake were doing. I can see the point of them for a busy range, or definitely an indoor range, but other than that I would not think you would want it on.
The main reason for having one of these is to direct the concussion and the sound downrange away from you. The concussion and sound amplifies profoundly with every inch below 16 inches, not to mention how much closer to the shooters face It becomes.
I have a myth. Dwell time doesn't matter if you have an adjustable gas block.
How the heck can you NOT mention Kaw Valley Linear Compensators ?!?!
For real! their new Mach 3 modular linear comp is beautiful, and probably out preforms any of these. I have had their Slim XL comp on my AR-9 for years and it helps a ton at the range or in the mountains, especially when you are shooting with or teaching new shooters. They feel a lot less intimidated when the concussion and sound of each shot is far lower or non existent.
It isn't obvious? They don't sell them. Most businesses don't promote products they don't sell.
i got a kaw valley on my 16 and a midwest on my 12.5.... i like the looks better and finish on the midwest but i like the performance better of my kaw valley, only thing sucks about kaws is after about 500 rounds they lose their finish while midwest still keeps their finish , but then again the kaw function to me beats them all
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Hello. I love all the videos. Keep up the great work. My question is, will a Linear compensator affect the direct impingement system on my AR like a suppressor does? As in will it affect the gas system and cycling and will it make the action more dirty like a suppressor does?
Are linear compensators developed to redirect the muzzle device gases produced by attaching a Muzzle Brake or compensater?
Having a detachable Blast deflector would give the option of forward deflection or muzzle stability, one or the other but not both at the same time, right?
I have a Ruger American Rifle 450 Bushmaster. I am wondering if you know the threading that I have? I would like to replace my muzzle break with a linear compensator. Thanks
What’s a good flash enhancer? I’m trying to annoy people at the range. 😬
M44 Mosin with S&B ammo, will set a target on fire if closer than 7 yards
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I wonder if it affects accuracy? Say vs a regular comp.
I never noticed any difference. I have a Kaw Valley on my .300 blk. I didn't have to sight it in after I changed it because it hits the same spot.
Not horrible
Is... is that an ATGM bazooka in the gun safe?
Looks like a p-skott or at4 as you call it. 💁🏼♂️
So, does adding one of these cancel out the benefits / gains from using a muzzle brake?
I didn't find any on Brownell's . All discontinued. Why my I ask?
Muzzle break for a 300WM. Who's muzzle break and linear comp doesn't move the point of impact, yet still does a good job on nullifying felt recoil?
Tnx very educational
do you need a crush washer for the direct thread compensators like the midwest industries? I have a Surefire Warden Direct Thread and was wondering if I needed a crush washer for the install.
I would. Cost is next to nothing for crush washer. Just bought a 5" Kak and pack of 3 washers.
Can I use the linear comp body on my AR-15 without a muzzle brake inside? My Springfield Armory Saint Edge came with a square shaped muzzle brake. Which is terrible at the range. I removed the muzzle brake and am considering buying just the linear comp body to attach to my Ar.
So does it mess with the purpose of a flash suppressor? Instead of spreading out the gasses and the flash, doesn't immediately reconcentrate it?
It would be good if you showed just how to install one from start to finish.
Wow... It's like yall read my mind... or just my comment.
is that AT4 for more dramatic background?
Hi, great videos. I have a quick question for you. I bought my son a Keltec RDB for his high school graduation because he was also accepted to a college to play division 2 football while taking his pre veterinary school courses. Anyway, proud father and should have bought a DD in 223 wylde. But I digress. The side blast out of his RDB is actually the only downfall for the rifle. No faikures with PMags or any brass ammo. What muzzle device would you recommend as a Christmas present? Also, do you carry the aftermarket for grip for the RDB?
I would get any linear comp don't get flash cans which was shown in this video any other muzzle devices like break,flash hider etc you're gonna feel the blast.
I bought the LANTAC dragon muzzle brake. I purchased from them their latest bmd but haven't gotten it yet. Would you do a review on their product please. Thanks, David.
Great explanation video do you have any follow up videos comparing compensators? I’m looking into linear comps and have been unable to find a trusted video on which one preforms the best at reducing sound for the shooter, in my case an AR pistol.
when using the blast shield on a compensator. you then eliminate the reduce recoil of the compensator. correct?
I been thinking of taking my MI Fwd Blast can
Do these things make it quieter and better for flash than just a flash hider..... My 13.9 sounds like a cannon lol
When using a linear compensator over a muzzle break do you lose the effectiveness of the muzzle break? Also if you use one over a flash hider does it concentrate the flash? Or are these just a fad to get us to spend more money on our rifles?
Caleb, I do not believe you have anything in the coffee cup!
Cappuccino with a double shot of espresso. We have an awesome coffee machine in the Brownell's break room!!
Is it true that putting a linear comp on a barrel that's say longer then 12 inches is a waste
I just bought a Ruger PC Charger (9mm) I'm thinking that the Kaw Valley Precision would be my best choice.. i have not taken the PC Charger to the range yet due to weather concerns.(Raining heavy this spring) the barrel is only 6 1/2 inches long. I don't want any blowback in my face from a muzzle brake or traditional compensator.
I think the linear Compensator is my best choice. What is your recommendation?
Will decrease the sound of the blast???
What would be your top 3 muzzle brakes/compensators for a walther ppq m2 45 sd? Recommendations please and thanks.
Do you know what comp a ASR QS mount would fit. Thanks I am looking at KAW Valley Precision
Converted my Ruger 57 into a CSM MP-57 PDW. gonna either buy a threaded barrel or thread my existing barrel for a blast can. I plan to use it as a car gun. Any suggested blast forward devices like these for when or if I have to use it without ear pro? I prefer the looks and the fact the surefire detaches so easily. Any suggestions? Are any better than others for 57?
How about the M-252 Blast Attenuation Device? Are they any good?
What do they do to the effectiveness of the muzzle break when attached? How well do the linear muzzle breaks work compared to more conventional designs? Are they worth the expense?
my understanding is they almost completely cancel out the muzzle device they went over.
@@jonathanrogers9961 yeah that what I though. It's a bit like if people wanted a muzzle brake because they are cool, then realized they function by blasting on the side, then install a device to tame that, hence preventing the muzzle brake to do it's job, as it's redirecting all the gas foward
It looks like a solution to a non problem to me. If you don't like the blast just remove your muzzle brake. If you have the money get a supressor or a flash hider
But maybe I'm wrong
@@thibaultghesquiere linear comps reduce blast more than a bare muzzle. But over all, yea
With so many "devices" on the market how long before we get a spreadsheet with sizes of each model? Ive been comparing these for months and am still having a hard time finding one in the right length/width for my build. If you guys make it, we will buy.
so if a compensator has holes all around the devise in a 360d manor is it really a compensator or is it just decoration.
Can buy,onw,use one in Italy?
If i have a Surefire Warcomp can I put the linear from then on?
Thanks
I would imagine it would work, so long as you bought the Surefire QD compensator.
@@five5105 Is that the Warden? There's two models, one is a QD for the Warcomp, the other is a direct thread. IIRC
If I’m making a linear comp at home what the deciding factor between a linear compensator and a suppressor
If I take a monocore fuel filter type form 1 style kit and I open the end with multiple ports on the front like a kaw valley precision linear comp would that be enough to not need a form 1
What happens if you get a longer tube? Will the recoil reduce? Just curious?.
What muzzle device would you recommend for the Brn-180 that isn’t a flash hider, considering the different recoil pattern of a gas piston system?
Are there any tri-lug mounted blast deflectors for a HK MP5 clone like the PTR CT9?
I have a BCM Mod zero that’s pin and wielded. Which one would work for me?
Thread a bit of tube and save yourself a fortune😂😅