Mount is an extremely versatile, hard working player. Every coach he’s had has sung his praises. Many top managers wanted him. It’s crazy to me fans doubt him (saying this as a Chelsea fan unhappy with his departure)
I can endure Havertz leaving, but not Mount. But can't blame Mount. Chelsea became unstable under the new owners. Spent £600m on players and most of them don't fit. Won't be playing UCL. Club trying to recoup money and have to sell. Just hope 23/24 will be better for Chelsea and the new players perform. Hopefully, the board have learnt one or two things.
I am gutted that Mount hasn't worked out at Chelsea long-term, but I am not gutted about him leaving, if that makes sense. Watching Azpilicueta's goodbye video just reinforced that. When the going got tough, Mount mentally and emotionally checked out. It showed both on and off the pitch, and that's not what we need.
I think people are really missing the fact that bruno was great as a deep lying playmaker when he replaced eriksen, leading to the weghorst minutes at 10. Hes more energetic and defensively capable than eriksen (not saying hes a good defender by any means, but a solid improvement on eriksen) and one of the major criticisms labelled at bruno, that being his pass completion %, was actually better when he was playing deeper. Also unlike mount, we have evidence for bruno playing this role outside of manchester united as he did it at times for sporting Im not saying bruno next to casemiro and mount at 10 will be what happens every game or the default, but im honestly surprised how little its getting talked about as a posssibility (not directed specifically at Jon/Tifo, just something ive noticed in the general media coverage of mounts potential role)
Bruno's DLP performance against Everton at OT was one for the books. We were on control of that midfield and Bruno was playing next to Mctominay lol. I am surprised no one praised aside from you has spoken about how well he has played there before. My only problem is why didn't Ten Hag play Donny in the CAM and Bruno in the DLP role more last season (Not every game, but more last season)?
Expect Mount and Bruno as RCM and LCM respectively. Casemiro as a lone CDM and the whole of the back line pushing further up the pitch, so Casemiro doesn't have to cover so much space.
That would make sense! So likely a 4-2-3-1 as that's what I recall them playing? With Mount and Case in the pivot and Bruno further forward? Things would of course change around while in possesion.
Don't forget the age factor. Casemiro and Eriksen are both 31 this year while Bruno is 28. It's pretty obvious Mount is brought in to replace Eriksen once he hits 33-34 years old in 2-3 years. By then Mount would be 26-27 which is entering into prime age for a midfielder. Added benefit is that he gets to learn from all 3 during those couple of years by training and playing with them.
Mount is gonna replace Erikson right now. Erikson is a great player and was a transformative signing for our squad last year but he just can't keep up physically with the best of the Prem and the Champions league at this point and completely ran out of gas last year after coming back from injury
Ten Hag is very good at building a team that does the things he wants them to do. That sounds obvious, but he doesn’t restrict himself to individual players performing set tasks. He is happy to move the position that individual qualities are in, as long as he has a collection of players that have all of those required qualities. His Ajax midfield morphed over a number of seasons with incoming players that weren’t always like-for-like replacements. He built a midfield that aggregated a set of qualities. Mount is just that. He has qualities that Ten Hag feels weren’t being covered across a number of players. That’s in part probably his stamina, his resilience to injury and pressing. None of which are particularly glamorous but watch him succeed.
When lampard brought him up from the academy in his first stint, I always wondered whether Mount will eventually be molded to be a lampard type CM. He hasn’t shown that he has a tendency to shoot or rush to the front like lampard. But maybe this is the jolt and freedom he needs. Maybe by the end of the season, ppl will appreciate the sort of potential he has. And if he starts scoring he will become the modern lampard.
he s the highest scorer and assister for chelsea since he started playing for them.. literally. he has a scholes-esque volley in him and great first and second touch. in ten hag's system especially if we also get Onana and hopefully a CF (still think Kane will be a real possibility just later in the window once he s had the opportunity to come back from his vacation and sit down with postecoglu and levy and let them know he s not gonna sign a new deal and that even if they dont let him move this summer he s gonna move next summer and still go to united - where he can play with rashford shaw and mount; players he knows from england whom with he has great synergy already as well as the most creative player in europe in fernandes and legends of the game in casemiro and varane as well as hugely talented players like martinez and onana and hopefully a sancho that finally finds his rhythm and confidence in a system that actually works all over the pitch.
Love your Maldini shirt.. Best defender I've I've ever seen (Blanc 2nd).. I remember back in the 80s him saying that he knew he'd made a mistake in defence if he had to make a tackle.." That made a massive impression on me about how to defend in football.. LEGEND!
Michael Carrick had that about him as well. Not in the sense of being an expert defender like Maldini. But that he knew how to defend without needing to make a tackle. It unassumingly kept United tight at the back. Matic was brought for this too but lost his legs.
I've seen Bruno slot into that double pivot role with Casemiro last season. Perhaps Bruno could do the Eriksen's role, and have Mount play in Bruno's original position as a 10. Or they could have bruno and Mount as 8's in a midfield three with Casemiro, I see that as the most feasible
@@jt19933 wrong. I haven't heard any criticism about havertz, mount, rice transfers. This channel can't criticise a transfer and try to find positive in it
@@BWart-zp5hy u cant find bad transfers in this type of clubs nowadays because of the amount of data and scouting they have, everything is taken to consideration and they dont just buy because hes good and nothing more, there is always a purpose, especially in this analytical era of football
One of Mount’s biggest strengths is his pressing ability. Another option for Ten Hag is to play two 10s and moving Shaw into an inverted fullback role. This would solve the pivot issue and provide more opportunity to press high. The only danger is that their wingers aren’t particularly defensively responsible…
I can see that, ETH likes high pressure so probably 1 FB would go inverted with casemiro to protect the middle in possession then press high up if we lose possession
At the end of the window, would Tifo be able to create a video or a podcast discussing and reviewing the Premier League clubs transfer business and perhaps draw comparisons to the sensible transfer videos to see from the analysts perspectives whether smart decisions were made?
With Mount on the team, Bruno can stress less and be more innovative with the accumulating numbers of matches. And I hope none of the players get injured in upcoming season.
You people are smoking copium. MM's game is all about pass and press which is not what Utd currently do. He is a student of the Dutch and Barcelona styles of play. It's basketball mathematics where passing the ball creates the spaces. The current Manchester United style is based on exploiting opportunities in transition and Marcus Rashford suits this style perfectly. Ten Hag obviously wants to move away from the 'red rush' style to a more controlled Dutch style becuase it's what he knows. MM is part of that transition. His arrival is part of a program of disruption not evolution. A footballing keeper and a more technical spine to the team seem inevitable
@samwize28 don’t worry about MM in terms of ball retention. He’s one of those players who retain the ball against all odds. With respect to the others. There’s been a massive improvement since TH arrived. Before that, half the team wasn’t even getting their body position correct to receive a pass for efficient redistribution. But you can only play so many tunes on a broken piano. New more technically effective players will arrive. Slightly worried about Marcus Rashford fitting in. Raheem Sterling can’t retain possession at Chelsea.
This is completely wrong. Utd already played with Casemiro as a single pivot last season. Bruno wasn't a single 10. Both he and either Eriksen or Fred played as advanced 8s/10s on either side of Casemiro. Mount is 100% coming into the team to take Eriksen's place. Maybe he could occasionally fill in other positions in times of major injuries but he'll play most of his time in a midfield 3. If we played a double pivot we would have gone for Caicedo instead of Mount.
He is probably the best player at total football. That’s why he was my favourite player at Chelsea. People get that confused as being the best individual player. He is no where near that. He allows managers to quickly change tactics in game without subbing and yet the standard won’t drop. He makes every player around him better with his intensity on and off the ball. He will improve Fernandez massively. It will go unnoticed but watch for his second assists.
As a Chelsea fan who has seen him play since his move to Chelsea, I like how you spoke about how he generates space and looks to make those tough passes but in reality, he doesn't make anywhere near the amount of passes he needs to. Another aspect of MM is he is pathetic as a double pivot and as a DLP if Casemiro is moving forward. However, he is good as a situational Double Pivot as seen form his many games. He is also not a No 10 as many believe. He has neither the vision nor the passion range for Bruno. He is a Henderson style of player, a pure 8 with a little bit of everything. He is a HUGE upgrade to MacFred without an iota of doubt. I don't believe you said that he can be in the either wing. He is horrible in that space. He played as an AMF in the front 3 of the 3421 formation. Having said that with a change in team and quality players around, he may be able to up the ante going next season. He is a huge presser and that I agree.
Mount will not play in the double pivot. If he does, it will be further up the field. As a situational pivot, Mount is fine dropping deep to collect the ball and playing progressive passes. I think you mistake pivot play as CDM. It's not the same thing.
Any thoughts on United switching to a 433, and also using Bruno as an 8? To me that seems like the most logical solution, Ten Hag didn't seem to mind playing him deeper at times last season
This signing tells me that Ten Hag is going to continue to play on the counterattack against good teams. With Bruno and Mount in the midfield along with a Onana for buildup and then a good striker up top, this team can compete.
I think people have really misread Ten Hag's style. He's much closer to Klopp than Pep. His best Ajax team was so fun to watch because they were insane on the counter. Every thing he's done so far as a manager tells me he wants to have an aggressive pressing side that plays quickly through the thirds. Think how Liverpool used to play when Klopp first got there. Kind of funnny that it's also kind of Rangnick's vision.
Hojlund is also best in a counterattacking side, I think ETH has realised it’s going to take him a few years and a complete squad overhaul before he can implement the actual style he wants.
@@mercurialblonde Pep team has been very direct in comparison to previous teams Peak Ten Hag teams are dominant in possession but also deadly on the counter
@@mercurialblonde not really tho, he used width from wingers just like pep and not attacking full backs like klopp. He sees defending as an opportunity to control the other team and not as an attacking situation in case the intense pressing works (like what klopp tries to do). He wants numbers in the middle to control possession and doesn't really use interchanging positions like klopp does (With salah-trent- henderson). I think he is just very pragmatic and used what he had at Utd this season. Don't forget Pep finished 4th in his 1st season with city, when he inherited a far more balanced and a successfull team than Ten Hag got from that Rangnick circus.
@@celtic69What do you think is missing? Technical and versatile players? I'd imagine Van De Beek and Sancho fits into the kind of football he wants to play, but neither have so far.
There is only Casemiro at Mounts level , I’m a Chelsea fan and I would buy him back tomorrow at £110m without a shadow of a doubt . It won’t be long until he is a crowd favourite there , you can’t fool the fans that attend the games they see they effort individuals do first hand Mount always gives 150%
@@lubbeandersson4306 We're hoping to be playing up to 60 games this season, both will see plenty of action. Look at how much back line rotation Man City got through last season
@@olamilekanakala7542 He can. He doesn't have the pace he used to have at Spurs, but the attributes needed for a deep-lying playmaker are pretty similar to the CAM role he had at Spurs. Passing, vision, ball carrying, composure, set-piece delivery, etc. are all attributes Eriksen still has. The only real change is a lower number of goals and a slightly larger defensive responsibility, but Case does a fantastic job covering (mostly).
No question the quality and fit are bang on... but £60m for someone who has 1yr left on his contract & is desperate to come? It was similar with Casemiro - Madrid were desperate to recoup some money & had too many midfielders after buying Tchouameni & Camavinga. Utd also paid double what Anthony was worth. Consistent theme!
I believe we will add Sofyan Amrabat to our midfield crew and sell Scott Mctominay and Fred leaving us with Christian Eriksen, Bruno Fernandes, Mason Mount, Casemiro, Sofyan Amrabat and Donny Van De Beek(He'll be like a new signing this coming season and is a much better player than either Fred or Scott by far). That's a good midfield with quality options if you ask me. It will be interesting to see what EtH does with Kobbie Mainoo, Hannibal Mejbri and Charlie Savage. Great analysis by Tifo btw!!!
Mount has played deeper as a double pivot and those were his worst games in a Chelsea shirt... Honestly watching mount and havertz what I've seen is they are the best if they are played in a free role... Mount really presses well...but vacates the midfield a lot ... So u need to not play him anywhere where that will be an issue... Play him either cam or lw...
@@akshaypadmashali8686 the idea is to make him isolated so the rest can push further up of the pitch. It already happens last season with Eriksen in the trio. The only difference is now Case won’t be forced to leave his midfield so much when there are more bodies now willing to contribute to the defence and we are signing goalkeepers that allow us to play a higher line
@@overhaul8416 the spaces between the lines will increase if u play mount and Bruno together...that means the opposition can pick up the ball in that space easily and outnumber casimiro
@@akshaypadmashali8686 tbf Mount is a great defensive presence even playing in a front line of sorts. Before his game time was limited because he was playing on an increasingly dodgy pelvis, he was not only the top creator (despite being inexplicably taken off a lot of dead balls for the likes of Cucurella or Gallagher) but also the top ball winner at Chelsea. Using him in a more central role backed up by a more traditional holding midfielder makes sense because he has the ability and engine to contribute all over. He should be even better in a logical system than something like Tuchel's defensive keep ball, seven at the back nonsense. I'm not sure why Jon is talking about Mount doing deep lying playmaker stuff. You don't need that when you have a defensive midfielder, a more advanced midfielder and a complete link man to compliment the other two. But he can either retain the ball in deep areas or progress it with his directness, positivity and ability to half turn better than virtually everyone before spotting a pass.
Mount does way more off the ball than Gavi IMO but Gavi might be slightly more technically gifted. What Mount lacks in skill and natural ability he makes up in tactical awareness which is why every manager he's played under absolutely loves him.
Please show Mason Mount's stats when playing against teams in the top half of the table (top half on the day of the game). RUclips videos like this confirm how what the American sports call analytics, is starting to take over English football. Samples of data are so important as they pose questions that often cannot be answered with another stat, such as 'Didier Drogba goal record in finals' cannot get explained with another stat. Mason Mount at Chelsea was a big fish in a pond that was unusually small. The timing was perfect for him: Hazard had just left, Willian and Pedro were older/slowed down, and the transfer ban meant no players could be signed. Added to that, Frank Lampard fell in love with Mount and played him for what he 'could do' rather than his inefficient production - so many bad free kicks, bad corners, misplaced passes, missed shots, missed one-on-ones, refusals to pass to teammates all overlooked by even Tifo.
Bitter! Mount does more well than he does bad. You are suggesting that YOU know more than all of the other managers that has managed Mount. You know squat mate. Humble yourself.
Very good analysis! Feels like a very strange decision to buy him based on your injury table. United needs a center FWD and a good backup/replacement for Eriksen/Casemiro.
Casemiro/Mount are the two signings United needed for a good amount of 4 years in order to play properly a 4-3-3 with the strong wingers they've had. It makes me happy that Ten Hag pulled this off in 2 summers without problem. With Ole this goddamn team were NEVER linked to a proper CDM or to an alternative to Pogba, at the time.
It's very rare that the fans are wrong about a player. If the fans are unhappy to see them go, it usually means they are a sefless soul who is putting in the hard yards. They may not show up as often on highlight reels, but the season ticket holders definitely notice and appreciate. The core problem is the defensive/progressive side of the game is still hilariously underrated. Your defenders can generally function if your attack is not firing. But if your defence isn't cohering, then your attack is probably screwed too. Everything builds off the back. I've always felt that the most important and cutthroat position on the pitch is central defence, and consequently your central defenders are your most important players. But they rarely get rated as highly as strikers, attacking midfielders, or wingers. But technical skill ain't everything. Not even close. Similarly, good attacking players who also have good defensive upsides are underrated. But having a profile that is strong across the board is a lot rarer than people realize.
Regarding the deep lying playmaker, what people are forgetting is some of Bruno’s best performances came in this position. Mason could be pushed further forward to allow Bruno more time and space to control the game from a deeper position! It’s not a case of Mason Mount is definitely an 8 for MUFC… his arrival gives the option of Bruno being the 8!
I think that in a lot of games, where man united would dominate with possesion, we could see mount as that no 8 on the right, alongside bruno, with Casemiro behind them two. What mount would do though, is do something similar to what he did under tuchel a few times when playing as a right winger, and have a partnership with the widest player on the right hand side. With Chelsea, it was Reece James, and with united, it would be antony. You can see on average heatmaps in the 22/23 season that united still have a tendency of players drifting towards the left hand side, which left antony to do all the work on the right. He's more of a link up player imo, so I think you could have Mount overlapping with antony and providing that link up, whilst providing more balance to united, even with sancho as well (if he's still at united). It also enables that flexibility into the final 3rd which was something we kinda missed. I don't see mount playing as a pivot at all for united to be honest, could be wrong though.
@tifo - Please ask mr goal post to check his facts. Mount said in November - "I like to think I'm a traditional midfielder even though I can play a number of roles for the team," said Mount, speaking back in November. "I've always said that I'm best as a No.8 and I've played there ever since I was a young kid.
Mason mount will give a bit of what Ten Hag wanted in Frenkie De Jong, carrying the ball and helping beat the press( not as good as De Jong ). Mount is also good at pressing like Bruno Fernandez. I have no doubt he will be a great signing
What you have not considered is the possibility of Ten Hag changing his system or moving some personnel around. For example he can play 4-3-3 with Bruno and Mount in 8 or he can use Bruno as an 8 and Mount in 10. He actually played Bruno in 8 a few times when Eriksen was injured and Sabitzer played in the 10 position, Bruno's performance in 8 were actually world class he has the vision, range of passing, clever touches and work rate to play in that position. This allows Mount to play in his preferred 10 and provide goals from open play, Bruno scores goals as well but I'll argue Mount is more prolific of the two. So for me it makes more sense to move Bruno to 8 and play Mount in 10 or play both as 8s and they can decide based on the situation who moves forward to support the attack
“When Bruno isn’t available” My brother, Bruno is the single most available player in the world. He played what, 74 matches last season? He always plays
I think he missed the detail that bruno is very efficient at the 8 role and played there a few times last season so a set up of mount 10 and bruno 8 could also be expected
Unless united are planning to replicate the 3 at the back formation, this transfer is a bust. He's not creative enough to be a 10, not defensively sound enough to be an 8. Great presser, horrible at tracking back. The only position he (and havertz) fit in are those inside forward ones that Tuchel used to play (which he did for good reason). Midfield 3 of casemiro, bruno, mount will struggle MASSIVELY in transitions and once the opposition break their press.
When United want someone to do the deep playmaker role and Case moves a bit further like you described, its more often than not Bruno who does that and he ll still do it because he has a great ping and Case is a brilliant header of the ball. that wont change. if anything it just simplifies things for United cause Mount's job will remain the same as it ll always be even when the situation calls for this "Switch" lets call it. Mount will be the box to box 8 with the license to make 3rd man runs at the edge of the box and Casemiro and Bruno will play around him not the other way around. Bruno is hugely intelligent positioning wise; go listen to his BT Interview with Rio Ferdinand (same series that they did with Modric - brilliant content btw if you re a young midfielder). Bruno talks about how he has to adapt in different games and modify his role - after all its a pretty free one - depending on the specific game and situation and what he s often found is that "marking the referee" as he called it is pretty effective cause oppo players tend to avoid the space that refs occupy and it often leaves a small gap that can be exploited. That's just one example.
Genuinely asking a question here... In the Chelsea example, wouldn't Jorginho have been a better pass because he'd put it directly on Havertz's left at a better shooting angle? Don't get me wrong, it's impressive that Mount has the technique to thread a pass like that, but in the context of getting the goal, it seems to me like the triangle would have set up a clearer chance...
We haven’t seen the best of DVB at our club. Judging from a few glimpses of his play, movement, he is better than what we’ve seen so far. Unfortunate for him that Ole benched him that killed off his confidence. If TH give him a chance of redemption, he might just surprise us all.
Mount is very good at transitional play so even if used as a situational pivot player, he'll do well. Chelsea fans want him to flop so they can laugh but they'll be surprised. Note: They shouldn't be.
Great video Jon. Covered a huge amount of ground in less than 20min without it being overwhelming. Love to hear who you think Utd could/should sign as a striker for 50m or less & why. (Rumour the budget is 150m so if they do sign Onana, might be all they have...)
If you sell, Bailly (4m), Williams (7m), Maguire (30m), Fred (20m), Henderson (23m), Martial (25m).. that's 109 million back in the pot. Those are estimates obviously.. some you'd get more, some less. Man Utd have to sell to fund what will be considered a decent window.
This is the type of signing we are meant to make, take a player that profiles really well that is cheaper bc he’s had a mixed year and is coming out of a bloated squad. I guarantee we’d pay 80+ mil for him 2 years ago.
if mount was the only signing for the deep play i would be worried but since its very likely we are getting onana . the pressure on him to play as a pivot will be minimal since onana can play as an extra man during build up
Honestly I think it's Bruno who gets shifted deeper into midfield and Mount occupying the attacking midfield role or even the right wing role in the tighter games.
This dude just said Eriksen is press resistant.. what game you've been watching? Dude wrecks it being pressed. Please stop having this Leeds fan/Utd hater, to do Utd contents.
Lmao true. Eriksen was poor under pressure last season. People loved complaining about bruno losing the ball but most often than not, it was due to him starting our attack unlike Eriksen who lost it when he was in possession.
Brilliant video and thank you for detailing as to what he would’ve done .. something that most fans were wondering . Summation of the video and what he’s hinted at is that, when Utd needed to sign a Rice / Caicedo/ lavia .. they signed a younger Bruno with lessor Goal output . Brilliant job by the recruitment team. It’s down to Ten Hag and his brain now
There is a well reported budget of £115 million - reported by Kieran Maguire, Jacobs, etc. Onana will be done at £45m and Mount was done at £55m (add ons of 5m including winning Prem and UCL which wont happen for a couple of years). so that is £15m left. The Glazers under FFP could add £90m out of their own pockets, but that hasn't EVER been done in 18 years, which shows why they are desp1sed. So this means the only way to get a Hojlund or Kolo Muani (at around £50-60m) - is to sell. Murtough thus far has proven he isn't very good at this, at all, and this is a skill in itself - buying is easier to do. My opinion is Paul Mitchell needs to come in ASAP. However, it's like bobbing for apple's. Luckily we have 2 that will very likely be easy deals to do - Fred for 15m to Fulham and Henderson for 25m to Forest. The likes of Maguire, Bailly, Telles, Williams, Elanga, McTominay, Donny, Martial, etc - Murtough would very much struggle to do good sales business on. To surmise, we will likely JUST get Hojlund over the line because of those easier sales. Also, Glazer's need a JAYEFFKAY moment to align their boardroom decision making.
I don't think its a coincidence Bruno said on instagram, "Why'd you take so long to sign 😠". Sounds like he was upset that he didn't have a backup and had to play ridiculous minutes for multiple years.
I hope to be wrong, but if United wanted a mobile no 8, why not buy a recognised mobile no 8. DVB is very able to play that role but is very much surplus to requirements.
Would Bruno be the one to play the 8 instead of mount? I feel like that might fit better than keeping Bruno at the ten Bruno would actually commit and be physical why I feel Mount might be a little more hesitant
@@DreamtOfSleep you right ngl but I just feel defensively bruno offers more than Mount and Bruno would commit both defensively and offensively but honestly we should buy another mid
@horaciomaldonado5278 actually, mount consistently ranks as one of the best pressing players offensively. bruno is a very intensive pressure, but his pressing tends to be less disciplined. frankly i don't believe either of them are suited to play as an 8 positionally because they both play better as a 10, mount is generally more comfortable playing different roles across the pitch though
Also Mount fixes the right wing, utd are overly reliant on the left. Mount will bring balance to the attack. I see him alongside Bruno with casemiro sat behind.
For me, he is a Sancho replacement. Effectively a better no 10, a better presser, better defensively, worse on the edge of the box. But overall it's a positive. Sancho needs to go
I'm torn on this signing. On the one hand, I think he's great, he'll improve the team, and I don't think United overpaid. Based on everything I've read, he's a brilliant Ten Hag signing too. But I think there is an 'order of operations' issue here. The biggest thing I believe we needed to learn from De Gea under Ten Hag is how wide-reaching the ramifications are of a goalkeeper's playing style and the knock-on effects this has on the rest of the squad. This is great if you aim to lean into these knock-on effects, but if you're trying to minimise them, you'll chafe. United have a lot of goalkeepers on their radar, and while they share a number of similarities, I'd argue that the differences between them are large enough that you don't necessarily know how much each midfield position will be emphasised in United's next season before you know who the keeper is going to be. I think Mount will fit in either way because he's really versatile, but his way of improving the team might not be the most important to splash big money on, given United's budget constaints. An example: Onana appears to be the frontrunner in the goalkeeper slot, and arguably his way of playing might make the no. 6 role more important than the 8 or 10 role, at least when it comes to signing 'the finished product' like Mount. If you lean into Onana's playing style and play with a higher line and a wide centerback split, you can push your fullbacks further up the field, make it easier for them to pounce on chances to generate chances from wide areas, while making it easier for midfielders like Eriksen to cover the space they leave behind. This means less need to always have Europe's most prolific chance-creator in the 10 slot at all times, and with Onana's ability to help the team play through pressure, the 8 slot might not have to always have a world-class player in it. With that in mind, you could get away with signing up-and-comers like Arda Güler or João Neves to play in one of those two positions against a number of opponents. But if you split your centerbacks, push up your fullbacks, and hope for the 8 to be a secondary creator, you *really* need the number 6 to be one of the best defencive rocks in the world. Otherwise, it's way too easy to get a one-on-one with the keeper from a turnover. Is Mount the right signing? I'm torn, honestly. All things considered, I'd feel better about the signing if United had settled on a keeper and how they were going to play next season first.
Bruno, Casemiro, Mount, Eriksen and Donny..... are all ballers. Comfortable with fast pace, two touch, through balls, passing forwards. Hark back to sideways Fred and McT and it looks like ETH class is in session. Might be worth watching again.
if that was the case united would've signed neymar, Mount is not a shirt seller, it was a player who was a priority for ten hag, but you lot will find anyway to hate united 😂
As a Utd fan it's bittersweet to some extent coz Donnie was supposed to be that Mobile 8 that we got Mount for. Hopefully we can also resurrect that career
Its hilarious how many people are claiming that United have overpaid. All moves can fail, but I just don't understand how the average pundit and outlet (looking at you goal who have published maybe 10 articles on why united shouldn't sign him) think they know better then all the managers who have picked him. After everything is said and done, Chelsea did try and keep him.
As a chelsea fan, he's not as good as you think he is. He's very versatile and technical for an English player, but he's not very efficient with his decisions. Would imagine having bruno and him will result to higher turnover rate.
@samwize28 I think because he scores/assist a good fair amount of goals, around 20 G/A in all comps for both each of those 2 seasons. Our strikers are so bad for a while now and the goals got to go somewhere. But still, we were still inefficient considering how much we generate and a good striker will always beat those fan's POTY stats
As a chelsea fan and someone who loves mount, I can tell you 2 things. 1) you paid 20 mill more his actual worth 2) is absolutely trash playing deeper role (CM), his best position is CAM or the left attack
Think of it as stacking up on players that can play as a 10 all over the pitch. Between KDB, Silva, Gundongan, Mahrez,Grealish and Foden, City is the blueprint for this. Now United dont have much on that front with Bruno, Eriksen and Mount, but it is a step in the right direction
Interesting take. I would include Sancho in that group of 10's too.. so that's 4.. if you compare the similarities of Mahrez and Antony that's also a close comparison there, in style at least. Ten Hag has bought a versatile player who will improve his first team on and off the ball, his squad in general and ultimately his chances of improvement and therefore success. He knows exactly what he is doing and all the people on here saying it's a rubbish signing frankly don't understand what they're looking at.
l'm not buying it, erikson is still comfortably better on the ball he just doesn't have the legs. l really like mount just never thought of him ever leaving chelsea or coming to united, worse after his worst season. he is now our most important player, also him being the iconic number 7 and the price tag we got him for doesnt help at all. remember his best years at Chelsea mount played in front of kante and jorgihino world class duo at that time, no wonder mount did well. now we are asking mount to play like kante lol. anyway, it is done now, his here. l hope he succeeds otherwise we are stuck with another player on ridiculous wages
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I know it's literally your job, but the way you guys use data to demonstrate your points and analysis is absolutely elite. Another banger video ❤
makes you wonder why 'experts' on tv get so much airtime
@@felixbache5369 very good point! I have never seen a pundit/expert on tv even come close to the level of analysis you can find on youtube.
As a data analyst myself, I appreciate this, they follow the rudimentary steps with exceptionally
I bet you compliment the postman for delivering letters. smh.
@@Antonio-hb8rd no i usually dropkick them in their teeth
Mount is an extremely versatile, hard working player. Every coach he’s had has sung his praises. Many top managers wanted him. It’s crazy to me fans doubt him (saying this as a Chelsea fan unhappy with his departure)
I can endure Havertz leaving, but not Mount. But can't blame Mount. Chelsea became unstable under the new owners. Spent £600m on players and most of them don't fit. Won't be playing UCL. Club trying to recoup money and have to sell. Just hope 23/24 will be better for Chelsea and the new players perform. Hopefully, the board have learnt one or two things.
I am gutted that Mount hasn't worked out at Chelsea long-term, but I am not gutted about him leaving, if that makes sense. Watching Azpilicueta's goodbye video just reinforced that. When the going got tough, Mount mentally and emotionally checked out. It showed both on and off the pitch, and that's not what we need.
cause most of our fans are idiots and I can say that wholeheartedly, I hate this fan base sometimes with the ridiculous takes.
Keeping a player soley because he came through the youth system is stupid. He wanted too much money and wouldn't have played. Simple.
Think you nailed it. He's hard working, versatile and not much else
I think people are really missing the fact that bruno was great as a deep lying playmaker when he replaced eriksen, leading to the weghorst minutes at 10. Hes more energetic and defensively capable than eriksen (not saying hes a good defender by any means, but a solid improvement on eriksen) and one of the major criticisms labelled at bruno, that being his pass completion %, was actually better when he was playing deeper. Also unlike mount, we have evidence for bruno playing this role outside of manchester united as he did it at times for sporting
Im not saying bruno next to casemiro and mount at 10 will be what happens every game or the default, but im honestly surprised how little its getting talked about as a posssibility (not directed specifically at Jon/Tifo, just something ive noticed in the general media coverage of mounts potential role)
Bruno's DLP performance against Everton at OT was one for the books. We were on control of that midfield and Bruno was playing next to Mctominay lol. I am surprised no one praised aside from you has spoken about how well he has played there before.
My only problem is why didn't Ten Hag play Donny in the CAM and Bruno in the DLP role more last season (Not every game, but more last season)?
@@hambakhayaDonny was injured. But I think he's going to be a real surprise this season, should get plenty of minutes.
Mount will definitely be at 8, we shouldn’t sacrifice the best players skill set for someone else
I've noticed this too it's very fluid with Bruno they can change position's during the game they both can play in the wide area/10 and 8
Expect Mount and Bruno as RCM and LCM respectively. Casemiro as a lone CDM and the whole of the back line pushing further up the pitch, so Casemiro doesn't have to cover so much space.
When comparing to his role in Ten Hag's preferred system, it's much more likely to look like Ajax 21/22 than United 22/23.
That would make sense! So likely a 4-2-3-1 as that's what I recall them playing? With Mount and Case in the pivot and Bruno further forward? Things would of course change around while in possesion.
I think Mount would play the VDB role and Bruno drops deeper. But that’s the good thing, they can switch positions throughout the 90 mins
@@jaki1584yeah bruno has proven hes capable in dm position
@@ludwigstenberg1050 will move to a single pivot in casemiro. mount and bruno to play as two 8s in a traditional 4-3-3
@@ludwigstenberg1050more a 4-3-3 with Bruno and Mount as 8s
People are going to be shocked by how good of a signing this is.
Ye, like Sancho and Antony.
Either Mount or Bruno will fall off. Come back to this in a year.
But why did he get no.7?
@@lwanelechirwa2057ask fergie who gave it to a 1 legged Michael Owen
@sharm4na5 it's antonys first season he can't be a flop yet
Hope so
Don't forget the age factor. Casemiro and Eriksen are both 31 this year while Bruno is 28. It's pretty obvious Mount is brought in to replace Eriksen once he hits 33-34 years old in 2-3 years. By then Mount would be 26-27 which is entering into prime age for a midfielder. Added benefit is that he gets to learn from all 3 during those couple of years by training and playing with them.
Mount is gonna replace Erikson right now. Erikson is a great player and was a transformative signing for our squad last year but he just can't keep up physically with the best of the Prem and the Champions league at this point and completely ran out of gas last year after coming back from injury
@@rwalker0130 Eriksen still has a massive part to play though has to be said. Being able to switch between him and Mount will be very nice for Ten Hag
Ten Hag is very good at building a team that does the things he wants them to do. That sounds obvious, but he doesn’t restrict himself to individual players performing set tasks. He is happy to move the position that individual qualities are in, as long as he has a collection of players that have all of those required qualities. His Ajax midfield morphed over a number of seasons with incoming players that weren’t always like-for-like replacements. He built a midfield that aggregated a set of qualities. Mount is just that. He has qualities that Ten Hag feels weren’t being covered across a number of players. That’s in part probably his stamina, his resilience to injury and pressing. None of which are particularly glamorous but watch him succeed.
Also, Mount can carry and dribble better than Bruno but Bruno football i.q and passing is genius
When lampard brought him up from the academy in his first stint, I always wondered whether Mount will eventually be molded to be a lampard type CM. He hasn’t shown that he has a tendency to shoot or rush to the front like lampard. But maybe this is the jolt and freedom he needs. Maybe by the end of the season, ppl will appreciate the sort of potential he has. And if he starts scoring he will become the modern lampard.
then he can become a manager
Bruno is the modern Lampard
he s the highest scorer and assister for chelsea since he started playing for them.. literally. he has a scholes-esque volley in him and great first and second touch. in ten hag's system especially if we also get Onana and hopefully a CF (still think Kane will be a real possibility just later in the window once he s had the opportunity to come back from his vacation and sit down with postecoglu and levy and let them know he s not gonna sign a new deal and that even if they dont let him move this summer he s gonna move next summer and still go to united - where he can play with rashford shaw and mount; players he knows from england whom with he has great synergy already as well as the most creative player in europe in fernandes and legends of the game in casemiro and varane as well as hugely talented players like martinez and onana and hopefully a sancho that finally finds his rhythm and confidence in a system that actually works all over the pitch.
What? Literally Chelseas highest scorer since his debut, as mentioned in the video.
@@alisankoh4052 Bruno is a 10, Lampard was an 8 or box to box midfielder.
Truely great analysis. Seriously, compared to a lot of TV pundits you guys are geniuses
True but the bar is pretty low for TV pundit’s level of analysis
@@zach1619exactly. I mean Rio ferdinand is there just to make Gary Neville seem knowledgeable
All clueless 😂
Love your Maldini shirt.. Best defender I've I've ever seen (Blanc 2nd).. I remember back in the 80s him saying that he knew he'd made a mistake in defence if he had to make a tackle.." That made a massive impression on me about how to defend in football.. LEGEND!
True. Italians are geniuses in defence. We don't get such players anymore.
Michael Carrick had that about him as well.
Not in the sense of being an expert defender like Maldini. But that he knew how to defend without needing to make a tackle. It unassumingly kept United tight at the back. Matic was brought for this too but lost his legs.
@@farhadchaudhry Rio also.. My dad always said the best defenders leave the pitch with clean shorts
crazy highlight reels
He isn’t a replacement. He is an upgrade.
I've seen Bruno slot into that double pivot role with Casemiro last season. Perhaps Bruno could do the Eriksen's role, and have Mount play in Bruno's original position as a 10. Or they could have bruno and Mount as 8's in a midfield three with Casemiro, I see that as the most feasible
Just the tactical analysis video I was waiting for 👌🏾... please prove these espn amateurs wrong🙌🏾
It seems like every signings can't be wrong nowadays
@@BWart-zp5hyno. It seems like every signing must be wrong for top teams.
@@jt19933 wrong. I haven't heard any criticism about havertz, mount, rice transfers.
This channel can't criticise a transfer and try to find positive in it
@@BWart-zp5hy u cant find bad transfers in this type of clubs nowadays because of the amount of data and scouting they have, everything is taken to consideration and they dont just buy because hes good and nothing more, there is always a purpose, especially in this analytical era of football
@@goncalopereira8147 you seriously think big clubs can't make mistakes when there has been countless for past 2 decades
One of Mount’s biggest strengths is his pressing ability. Another option for Ten Hag is to play two 10s and moving Shaw into an inverted fullback role. This would solve the pivot issue and provide more opportunity to press high. The only danger is that their wingers aren’t particularly defensively responsible…
I can see that, ETH likes high pressure so probably 1 FB would go inverted with casemiro to protect the middle in possession then press high up if we lose possession
Antony is though. it is the others that arent
Last season we did see Bruno being played as a deep playmaker
We also saw Bruno play everywhere else except keeper 😂
But if you remember at sampdoria and sporting thats where Bruno always started but he was allowed freedom to do more
At the end of the window, would Tifo be able to create a video or a podcast discussing and reviewing the Premier League clubs transfer business and perhaps draw comparisons to the sensible transfer videos to see from the analysts perspectives whether smart decisions were made?
With Mount on the team, Bruno can stress less and be more innovative with the accumulating numbers of matches. And I hope none of the players get injured in upcoming season.
You people are smoking copium. MM's game is all about pass and press which is not what Utd currently do. He is a student of the Dutch and Barcelona styles of play. It's basketball mathematics where passing the ball creates the spaces. The current Manchester United style is based on exploiting opportunities in transition and Marcus Rashford suits this style perfectly. Ten Hag obviously wants to move away from the 'red rush' style to a more controlled Dutch style becuase it's what he knows. MM is part of that transition. His arrival is part of a program of disruption not evolution. A footballing keeper and a more technical spine to the team seem inevitable
@samwize28 don’t worry about MM in terms of ball retention. He’s one of those players who retain the ball against all odds. With respect to the others. There’s been a massive improvement since TH arrived. Before that, half the team wasn’t even getting their body position correct to receive a pass for efficient redistribution. But you can only play so many tunes on a broken piano. New more technically effective players will arrive. Slightly worried about Marcus Rashford fitting in. Raheem Sterling can’t retain possession at Chelsea.
Year later and your comment was spot on. Unfortunately due to injuries we never got to see the transition.
This is completely wrong. Utd already played with Casemiro as a single pivot last season. Bruno wasn't a single 10. Both he and either Eriksen or Fred played as advanced 8s/10s on either side of Casemiro. Mount is 100% coming into the team to take Eriksen's place. Maybe he could occasionally fill in other positions in times of major injuries but he'll play most of his time in a midfield 3. If we played a double pivot we would have gone for Caicedo instead of Mount.
He is probably the best player at total football. That’s why he was my favourite player at Chelsea. People get that confused as being the best individual player. He is no where near that. He allows managers to quickly change tactics in game without subbing and yet the standard won’t drop. He makes every player around him better with his intensity on and off the ball. He will improve Fernandez massively. It will go unnoticed but watch for his second assists.
I mean, it’s not like he was far off from being their best player
@@jorregritter3669 he isn't. Chelsea's best players have been Thiago Silva, Reece James etc. But there isn't one standout player from Chelsea
He was their best player for the last couple of seasons
@@GatterSzn He was the fan favorite. Get it right
You have to make a video about Ancelloti coaching Brazil. It is a turning point in South American football
As a Chelsea fan who has seen him play since his move to Chelsea, I like how you spoke about how he generates space and looks to make those tough passes but in reality, he doesn't make anywhere near the amount of passes he needs to. Another aspect of MM is he is pathetic as a double pivot and as a DLP if Casemiro is moving forward. However, he is good as a situational Double Pivot as seen form his many games. He is also not a No 10 as many believe. He has neither the vision nor the passion range for Bruno. He is a Henderson style of player, a pure 8 with a little bit of everything. He is a HUGE upgrade to MacFred without an iota of doubt.
I don't believe you said that he can be in the either wing. He is horrible in that space. He played as an AMF in the front 3 of the 3421 formation. Having said that with a change in team and quality players around, he may be able to up the ante going next season. He is a huge presser and that I agree.
Mount will not play in the double pivot. If he does, it will be further up the field. As a situational pivot, Mount is fine dropping deep to collect the ball and playing progressive passes. I think you mistake pivot play as CDM. It's not the same thing.
What "move" to Chelsea 😅
@@stormburns following him since he was five years old 🧐😂
@@RL- 6 years old you mean xD
@@stormburns I just read something that said he was born in January 2000, so I thought he was still 23 for some reason 🤣
Any thoughts on United switching to a 433, and also using Bruno as an 8? To me that seems like the most logical solution, Ten Hag didn't seem to mind playing him deeper at times last season
I actually think we will have to No 8s. Mount and Bruno either side of Bruno, with them both taking in turns to roam and make late runs.
Either side of Case?
@@ArunaUtdnah Bruno has cloned himself over the summer 😂
@@lewisblackwiththenicehair Bro's about to play 102 games next szn 😭😭
@Ventovader123 knowing United that's probably per Bruno too 😂
@@ArunaUtd Homie played 59 games last season lmao, he needs a rest occasionally.
Eriksen will be great to play in the easier home games to offer more creativity and also to bring on as a sub when we need a goal.
This signing tells me that Ten Hag is going to continue to play on the counterattack against good teams. With Bruno and Mount in the midfield along with a Onana for buildup and then a good striker up top, this team can compete.
I think people have really misread Ten Hag's style. He's much closer to Klopp than Pep. His best Ajax team was so fun to watch because they were insane on the counter. Every thing he's done so far as a manager tells me he wants to have an aggressive pressing side that plays quickly through the thirds. Think how Liverpool used to play when Klopp first got there. Kind of funnny that it's also kind of Rangnick's vision.
Hojlund is also best in a counterattacking side, I think ETH has realised it’s going to take him a few years and a complete squad overhaul before he can implement the actual style he wants.
@@mercurialblonde Pep team has been very direct in comparison to previous teams
Peak Ten Hag teams are dominant in possession but also deadly on the counter
@@mercurialblonde not really tho, he used width from wingers just like pep and not attacking full backs like klopp. He sees defending as an opportunity to control the other team and not as an attacking situation in case the intense pressing works (like what klopp tries to do). He wants numbers in the middle to control possession and doesn't really use interchanging positions like klopp does (With salah-trent- henderson). I think he is just very pragmatic and used what he had at Utd this season. Don't forget Pep finished 4th in his 1st season with city, when he inherited a far more balanced and a successfull team than Ten Hag got from that Rangnick circus.
@@celtic69What do you think is missing? Technical and versatile players? I'd imagine Van De Beek and Sancho fits into the kind of football he wants to play, but neither have so far.
There is only Casemiro at Mounts level , I’m a Chelsea fan and I would buy him back tomorrow at £110m without a shadow of a doubt . It won’t be long until he is a crowd favourite there , you can’t fool the fans that attend the games they see they effort individuals do first hand Mount always gives 150%
Great video as always lads.
Can we get a Timber analysis? I am curious what he could bring to Arsenal.
He will start at RB and shift to CB in a 3 when Arsenal go from 4-3-3 to 3-4-3 box
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And just keep White on the bench after an amazing season, seems weird
@@lubbeandersson4306 We're hoping to be playing up to 60 games this season, both will see plenty of action. Look at how much back line rotation Man City got through last season
@@lubbeandersson4306 it’s for depth, they have few CB options and if tierney leaves then tomiasu will play LB
This video aged welll. Mount is absolutely fantastic. He has scored and assisted 30g/a since bis signing.
When Eriksen signed, people didn't think he could play that deep...
And he really can't
He had already played much deeper than he used to at Spurs at Inter and Brentford tbf
@@olamilekanakala7542 He can. He doesn't have the pace he used to have at Spurs, but the attributes needed for a deep-lying playmaker are pretty similar to the CAM role he had at Spurs. Passing, vision, ball carrying, composure, set-piece delivery, etc. are all attributes Eriksen still has. The only real change is a lower number of goals and a slightly larger defensive responsibility, but Case does a fantastic job covering (mostly).
John's hand movements makes me feel like everythings gonna be alright
I wish Manchester United bring in Onana and a number 9
Costa is better
@@potetoesman Yeah bud, but Onana has played under Erik ten Hag before but also Costa is younger.
@@potetoesmanheight issues, onana is a lot more polished and a bigger character in the dressing room as he has shown in inter and ajax
Hojlund and onana are coming
And a rb and a cb and a cdm backup and a winger backup and a striker backup AND NEW OWNERS
No question the quality and fit are bang on... but £60m for someone who has 1yr left on his contract & is desperate to come?
It was similar with Casemiro - Madrid were desperate to recoup some money & had too many midfielders after buying Tchouameni & Camavinga. Utd also paid double what Anthony was worth.
Consistent theme!
We have clowns in charge of negotiation. We spent so much time just to pay the original asking price.
Tifo July 2024: ‘Why Mason Mount was never a good fit for United’
I believe we will add Sofyan Amrabat to our midfield crew and sell Scott Mctominay and Fred leaving us with Christian Eriksen, Bruno Fernandes, Mason Mount, Casemiro, Sofyan Amrabat and Donny Van De Beek(He'll be like a new signing this coming season and is a much better player than either Fred or Scott by far). That's a good midfield with quality options if you ask me. It will be interesting to see what EtH does with Kobbie Mainoo, Hannibal Mejbri and Charlie Savage. Great analysis by Tifo btw!!!
VDB is gone this year. best of luck to him but he didn't impress with the chances he got last year
Mount has played deeper as a double pivot and those were his worst games in a Chelsea shirt... Honestly watching mount and havertz what I've seen is they are the best if they are played in a free role... Mount really presses well...but vacates the midfield a lot ... So u need to not play him anywhere where that will be an issue... Play him either cam or lw...
@samwize28 I think that would leave casemiro isolated
@samwize28 of you have someone like Henderson to support.. who isn't gonna vacate like mount and Bruno..
@@akshaypadmashali8686 the idea is to make him isolated so the rest can push further up of the pitch. It already happens last season with Eriksen in the trio. The only difference is now Case won’t be forced to leave his midfield so much when there are more bodies now willing to contribute to the defence and we are signing goalkeepers that allow us to play a higher line
@@overhaul8416 the spaces between the lines will increase if u play mount and Bruno together...that means the opposition can pick up the ball in that space easily and outnumber casimiro
@@akshaypadmashali8686 tbf Mount is a great defensive presence even playing in a front line of sorts. Before his game time was limited because he was playing on an increasingly dodgy pelvis, he was not only the top creator (despite being inexplicably taken off a lot of dead balls for the likes of Cucurella or Gallagher) but also the top ball winner at Chelsea. Using him in a more central role backed up by a more traditional holding midfielder makes sense because he has the ability and engine to contribute all over. He should be even better in a logical system than something like Tuchel's defensive keep ball, seven at the back nonsense.
I'm not sure why Jon is talking about Mount doing deep lying playmaker stuff. You don't need that when you have a defensive midfielder, a more advanced midfielder and a complete link man to compliment the other two. But he can either retain the ball in deep areas or progress it with his directness, positivity and ability to half turn better than virtually everyone before spotting a pass.
There’s actually not many players like him in football. The closest I can compare him to is Gavi from Barcelona.
Can you elaborate? What is it that makes them unique? I agree though, they're both very particular 8/10 hybrids.
Mount does way more off the ball than Gavi IMO but Gavi might be slightly more technically gifted. What Mount lacks in skill and natural ability he makes up in tactical awareness which is why every manager he's played under absolutely loves him.
@@areebsiddiqui758dk the stats but Gavi isn’t a player that’s afraid to get stuck in
Please show Mason Mount's stats when playing against teams in the top half of the table (top half on the day of the game).
RUclips videos like this confirm how what the American sports call analytics, is starting to take over English football.
Samples of data are so important as they pose questions that often cannot be answered with another stat, such as 'Didier Drogba goal record in finals' cannot get explained with another stat.
Mason Mount at Chelsea was a big fish in a pond that was unusually small. The timing was perfect for him: Hazard had just left, Willian and Pedro were older/slowed down, and the transfer ban meant no players could be signed.
Added to that, Frank Lampard fell in love with Mount and played him for what he 'could do' rather than his inefficient production - so many bad free kicks, bad corners, misplaced passes, missed shots, missed one-on-ones, refusals to pass to teammates all overlooked by even Tifo.
You perfectly articulated my exact thoughts on Mount
Bitter! Mount does more well than he does bad. You are suggesting that YOU know more than all of the other managers that has managed Mount. You know squat mate. Humble yourself.
He been holding Chelsea back for the last 4 years.
What’s funny is this is what rival fans said to Chelsea fans for years, now he’s left they’re on board with this take and championing it
I agree
I see him more as an 8 than a 10. Hardworking box to box midfielder.
If ETH has signed then it will be usefull, unlike previous blind signings, which were mere done for commercial purposes
Very good analysis! Feels like a very strange decision to buy him based on your injury table. United needs a center FWD and a good backup/replacement for Eriksen/Casemiro.
Casemiro/Mount are the two signings United needed for a good amount of 4 years in order to play properly a 4-3-3 with the strong wingers they've had. It makes me happy that Ten Hag pulled this off in 2 summers without problem. With Ole this goddamn team were NEVER linked to a proper CDM or to an alternative to Pogba, at the time.
nice, how about amrabat, is he a good cdm for united, casemiro desperately needs cover especially with ucl matches
It's very rare that the fans are wrong about a player. If the fans are unhappy to see them go, it usually means they are a sefless soul who is putting in the hard yards. They may not show up as often on highlight reels, but the season ticket holders definitely notice and appreciate.
The core problem is the defensive/progressive side of the game is still hilariously underrated. Your defenders can generally function if your attack is not firing. But if your defence isn't cohering, then your attack is probably screwed too. Everything builds off the back.
I've always felt that the most important and cutthroat position on the pitch is central defence, and consequently your central defenders are your most important players. But they rarely get rated as highly as strikers, attacking midfielders, or wingers. But technical skill ain't everything. Not even close.
Similarly, good attacking players who also have good defensive upsides are underrated. But having a profile that is strong across the board is a lot rarer than people realize.
Regarding the deep lying playmaker, what people are forgetting is some of Bruno’s best performances came in this position. Mason could be pushed further forward to allow Bruno more time and space to control the game from a deeper position! It’s not a case of Mason Mount is definitely an 8 for MUFC… his arrival gives the option of Bruno being the 8!
I think that in a lot of games, where man united would dominate with possesion, we could see mount as that no 8 on the right, alongside bruno, with Casemiro behind them two. What mount would do though, is do something similar to what he did under tuchel a few times when playing as a right winger, and have a partnership with the widest player on the right hand side. With Chelsea, it was Reece James, and with united, it would be antony. You can see on average heatmaps in the 22/23 season that united still have a tendency of players drifting towards the left hand side, which left antony to do all the work on the right. He's more of a link up player imo, so I think you could have Mount overlapping with antony and providing that link up, whilst providing more balance to united, even with sancho as well (if he's still at united). It also enables that flexibility into the final 3rd which was something we kinda missed. I don't see mount playing as a pivot at all for united to be honest, could be wrong though.
Bruno Fernandes has never been unavailable
Jon's "title" at 0:12 was class, lmao. Great video, as always
@tifo - Please ask mr goal post to check his facts. Mount said in November - "I like to think I'm a traditional midfielder even though I can play a number of roles for the team," said Mount, speaking back in November. "I've always said that I'm best as a No.8 and I've played there ever since I was a young kid.
Can listen to Jon all day, always a joy
Mason mount will give a bit of what Ten Hag wanted in Frenkie De Jong, carrying the ball and helping beat the press( not as good as De Jong ). Mount is also good at pressing like Bruno Fernandez. I have no doubt he will be a great signing
great work on the analysis, greaat video too.. but i just have to say, that that shirt is fire
What you have not considered is the possibility of Ten Hag changing his system or moving some personnel around. For example he can play 4-3-3 with Bruno and Mount in 8 or he can use Bruno as an 8 and Mount in 10.
He actually played Bruno in 8 a few times when Eriksen was injured and Sabitzer played in the 10 position, Bruno's performance in 8 were actually world class he has the vision, range of passing, clever touches and work rate to play in that position. This allows Mount to play in his preferred 10 and provide goals from open play, Bruno scores goals as well but I'll argue Mount is more prolific of the two.
So for me it makes more sense to move Bruno to 8 and play Mount in 10 or play both as 8s and they can decide based on the situation who moves forward to support the attack
15:33 casemero patrolling in the area, and that's all fine. *The Goat*
“When Bruno isn’t available”
My brother, Bruno is the single most available player in the world. He played what, 74 matches last season? He always plays
I think he missed the detail that bruno is very efficient at the 8 role and played there a few times last season so a set up of mount 10 and bruno 8 could also be expected
I usually hate Utd but I want Mount to do well and prove the haters wrong
Unless united are planning to replicate the 3 at the back formation, this transfer is a bust. He's not creative enough to be a 10, not defensively sound enough to be an 8. Great presser, horrible at tracking back. The only position he (and havertz) fit in are those inside forward ones that Tuchel used to play (which he did for good reason). Midfield 3 of casemiro, bruno, mount will struggle MASSIVELY in transitions and once the opposition break their press.
When United want someone to do the deep playmaker role and Case moves a bit further like you described, its more often than not Bruno who does that and he ll still do it because he has a great ping and Case is a brilliant header of the ball. that wont change. if anything it just simplifies things for United cause Mount's job will remain the same as it ll always be even when the situation calls for this "Switch" lets call it. Mount will be the box to box 8 with the license to make 3rd man runs at the edge of the box and Casemiro and Bruno will play around him not the other way around. Bruno is hugely intelligent positioning wise; go listen to his BT Interview with Rio Ferdinand (same series that they did with Modric - brilliant content btw if you re a young midfielder). Bruno talks about how he has to adapt in different games and modify his role - after all its a pretty free one - depending on the specific game and situation and what he s often found is that "marking the referee" as he called it is pretty effective cause oppo players tend to avoid the space that refs occupy and it often leaves a small gap that can be exploited. That's just one example.
i genuinely dont know what to expect from this transfer especially after hes got the 7. Hes either going to be insanely good or flop horribly
A little positivity wouldn't hurt you know.
@@arinzemelifs1424he’s being realistic
Genuinely asking a question here...
In the Chelsea example, wouldn't Jorginho have been a better pass because he'd put it directly on Havertz's left at a better shooting angle?
Don't get me wrong, it's impressive that Mount has the technique to thread a pass like that, but in the context of getting the goal, it seems to me like the triangle would have set up a clearer chance...
I don’t think Mount is the only CM ETH wants. Ideally United need an extra 6 which is why I think DVB may not be sold
We haven’t seen the best of DVB at our club. Judging from a few glimpses of his play, movement, he is better than what we’ve seen so far. Unfortunate for him that Ole benched him that killed off his confidence. If TH give him a chance of redemption, he might just surprise us all.
Mount is very good at transitional play so even if used as a situational pivot player, he'll do well. Chelsea fans want him to flop so they can laugh but they'll be surprised. Note: They shouldn't be.
Mount is a Chelsea legend he pass won them the champions league and player of the year twice
Great video Jon. Covered a huge amount of ground in less than 20min without it being overwhelming.
Love to hear who you think Utd could/should sign as a striker for 50m or less & why. (Rumour the budget is 150m so if they do sign Onana, might be all they have...)
It’s looking like it’ll be hojlund
@@MilkIsASauceTV Heard they're looking for €70m though
If you sell, Bailly (4m), Williams (7m), Maguire (30m), Fred (20m), Henderson (23m), Martial (25m).. that's 109 million back in the pot. Those are estimates obviously.. some you'd get more, some less. Man Utd have to sell to fund what will be considered a decent window.
Also last season we ran our squad to ground so it's not ideal for mid fielders to start that much game
What if they opt for a box midfield in possession? Lisandro or dalot becoming the 2nd pivot, Bruno and mount as 8s
Exactly ETH likes to play with 1 inverted FB or tucking in and Martines stepping up....
This is the type of signing we are meant to make, take a player that profiles really well that is cheaper bc he’s had a mixed year and is coming out of a bloated squad. I guarantee we’d pay 80+ mil for him 2 years ago.
He wouldn’t even have been available to sign from such a close rival before this year
if mount was the only signing for the deep play i would be worried but since its very likely we are getting onana
. the pressure on him to play as a pivot will be minimal since onana can play as an extra man during build up
Honestly I think it's Bruno who gets shifted deeper into midfield and Mount occupying the attacking midfield role or even the right wing role in the tighter games.
This dude just said Eriksen is press resistant.. what game you've been watching? Dude wrecks it being pressed. Please stop having this Leeds fan/Utd hater, to do Utd contents.
Lmao true. Eriksen was poor under pressure last season. People loved complaining about bruno losing the ball but most often than not, it was due to him starting our attack unlike Eriksen who lost it when he was in possession.
Brilliant video and thank you for detailing as to what he would’ve done .. something that most fans were wondering .
Summation of the video and what he’s hinted at is that, when Utd needed to sign a Rice / Caicedo/ lavia .. they signed a younger Bruno with lessor Goal output . Brilliant job by the recruitment team.
It’s down to Ten Hag and his brain now
that best 11 availability graphic is criminal. genuinely didnt know it was that bad.
If ETH goes with a double pivot, it could be Case and Bruno like he tried towards the end of last season, with Mount at 10
What’s happened is ten hag can’t get de jong to replace eriksen so he’s gone for Mount instead.
There is a well reported budget of £115 million - reported by Kieran Maguire, Jacobs, etc. Onana will be done at £45m and Mount was done at £55m (add ons of 5m including winning Prem and UCL which wont happen for a couple of years). so that is £15m left. The Glazers under FFP could add £90m out of their own pockets, but that hasn't EVER been done in 18 years, which shows why they are desp1sed. So this means the only way to get a Hojlund or Kolo Muani (at around £50-60m) - is to sell. Murtough thus far has proven he isn't very good at this, at all, and this is a skill in itself - buying is easier to do. My opinion is Paul Mitchell needs to come in ASAP. However, it's like bobbing for apple's. Luckily we have 2 that will very likely be easy deals to do - Fred for 15m to Fulham and Henderson for 25m to Forest. The likes of Maguire, Bailly, Telles, Williams, Elanga, McTominay, Donny, Martial, etc - Murtough would very much struggle to do good sales business on. To surmise, we will likely JUST get Hojlund over the line because of those easier sales. Also, Glazer's need a JAYEFFKAY moment to align their boardroom decision making.
Going to be one of the 8’s in a 433 no doubt
I don't think its a coincidence Bruno said on instagram, "Why'd you take so long to sign 😠". Sounds like he was upset that he didn't have a backup and had to play ridiculous minutes for multiple years.
He isn't being signed to be a backup
@@King1000x yeah, but he will be the only other player on the team that can competently Bruno's playmaking role
Nice input details. The only that worried for Mason is his ability on defend
There was a video for "why weghorst is perfect for man UTD so I'm nt surprised
I hope to be wrong, but if United wanted a mobile no 8, why not buy a recognised mobile no 8.
DVB is very able to play that role but is very much surplus to requirements.
Would Bruno be the one to play the 8 instead of mount? I feel like that might fit better than keeping Bruno at the ten Bruno would actually commit and be physical why I feel Mount might be a little more hesitant
This is what I came here to comment. Bruno feels like a btter fit as a replacement for Eriksen than Mount does.
bruno is a better creator and isn't as good at retaining the ball as mount - playing him as an 8 stifles his creative freedom
@@DreamtOfSleep you right ngl but I just feel defensively bruno offers more than Mount and Bruno would commit both defensively and offensively but honestly we should buy another mid
@horaciomaldonado5278 actually, mount consistently ranks as one of the best pressing players offensively. bruno is a very intensive pressure, but his pressing tends to be less disciplined. frankly i don't believe either of them are suited to play as an 8 positionally because they both play better as a 10, mount is generally more comfortable playing different roles across the pitch though
@@DreamtOfSleep fair we will have to see I just hope they both score some absolute bangers
Also Mount fixes the right wing, utd are overly reliant on the left. Mount will bring balance to the attack. I see him alongside Bruno with casemiro sat behind.
For me, he is a Sancho replacement. Effectively a better no 10, a better presser, better defensively, worse on the edge of the box. But overall it's a positive. Sancho needs to go
Not signing him to play on the wing
I'm torn on this signing. On the one hand, I think he's great, he'll improve the team, and I don't think United overpaid. Based on everything I've read, he's a brilliant Ten Hag signing too. But I think there is an 'order of operations' issue here.
The biggest thing I believe we needed to learn from De Gea under Ten Hag is how wide-reaching the ramifications are of a goalkeeper's playing style and the knock-on effects this has on the rest of the squad. This is great if you aim to lean into these knock-on effects, but if you're trying to minimise them, you'll chafe.
United have a lot of goalkeepers on their radar, and while they share a number of similarities, I'd argue that the differences between them are large enough that you don't necessarily know how much each midfield position will be emphasised in United's next season before you know who the keeper is going to be. I think Mount will fit in either way because he's really versatile, but his way of improving the team might not be the most important to splash big money on, given United's budget constaints.
An example: Onana appears to be the frontrunner in the goalkeeper slot, and arguably his way of playing might make the no. 6 role more important than the 8 or 10 role, at least when it comes to signing 'the finished product' like Mount.
If you lean into Onana's playing style and play with a higher line and a wide centerback split, you can push your fullbacks further up the field, make it easier for them to pounce on chances to generate chances from wide areas, while making it easier for midfielders like Eriksen to cover the space they leave behind. This means less need to always have Europe's most prolific chance-creator in the 10 slot at all times, and with Onana's ability to help the team play through pressure, the 8 slot might not have to always have a world-class player in it.
With that in mind, you could get away with signing up-and-comers like Arda Güler or João Neves to play in one of those two positions against a number of opponents. But if you split your centerbacks, push up your fullbacks, and hope for the 8 to be a secondary creator, you *really* need the number 6 to be one of the best defencive rocks in the world. Otherwise, it's way too easy to get a one-on-one with the keeper from a turnover.
Is Mount the right signing? I'm torn, honestly. All things considered, I'd feel better about the signing if United had settled on a keeper and how they were going to play next season first.
Bruno, Casemiro, Mount, Eriksen and Donny..... are all ballers. Comfortable with fast pace, two touch, through balls, passing forwards. Hark back to sideways Fred and McT and it looks like ETH class is in session. Might be worth watching again.
Damn, Jon. This was really good. I mean, elite tactical analysis!
Mason mount was brought in to solve the jersey selling problem lol
if that was the case united would've signed neymar, Mount is not a shirt seller, it was a player who was a priority for ten hag, but you lot will find anyway to hate united 😂
Man U can’t afford Neymah….
@@ayomitideoriade6621 they can? Neymar wouldn’t be more than 100 mil, probably way less actually 70-80
As a Utd fan it's bittersweet to some extent coz Donnie was supposed to be that Mobile 8 that we got Mount for. Hopefully we can also resurrect that career
Sadly seems the premier League just isn't suited to him.....
I was just as sad when Kagawa didn't work out, he was such a great player but couldn't do it in the premier League.... And look at Sancho....😕
Its hilarious how many people are claiming that United have overpaid. All moves can fail, but I just don't understand how the average pundit and outlet (looking at you goal who have published maybe 10 articles on why united shouldn't sign him) think they know better then all the managers who have picked him.
After everything is said and done, Chelsea did try and keep him.
As a chelsea fan, he's not as good as you think he is. He's very versatile and technical for an English player, but he's not very efficient with his decisions. Would imagine having bruno and him will result to higher turnover rate.
@samwize28 I think because he scores/assist a good fair amount of goals, around 20 G/A in all comps for both each of those 2 seasons. Our strikers are so bad for a while now and the goals got to go somewhere. But still, we were still inefficient considering how much we generate and a good striker will always beat those fan's POTY stats
can you make a video on how inter miami r affording all these elite players with them bein g a brand new team
As a chelsea fan and someone who loves mount, I can tell you 2 things.
1) you paid 20 mill more his actual worth
2) is absolutely trash playing deeper role (CM), his best position is CAM or the left attack
Man Utd. watched Tifo’s video “What does Mason Mount actually do?”
I too have suspected United does research by RUclips and just going after whoever their rivals want
😂😂😂 people find way to make their minds happy .. smh
At 250-300k a week, he better contribute.
Can say the same for almost any player in United's squad.
Wonderful, thorough analysis. Thanks for these videos!
Think of it as stacking up on players that can play as a 10 all over the pitch.
Between KDB, Silva, Gundongan, Mahrez,Grealish and Foden, City is the blueprint for this.
Now United dont have much on that front with Bruno, Eriksen and Mount, but it is a step in the right direction
Interesting take. I would include Sancho in that group of 10's too.. so that's 4.. if you compare the similarities of Mahrez and Antony that's also a close comparison there, in style at least. Ten Hag has bought a versatile player who will improve his first team on and off the ball, his squad in general and ultimately his chances of improvement and therefore success. He knows exactly what he is doing and all the people on here saying it's a rubbish signing frankly don't understand what they're looking at.
Seems like a very dynamic player to KEEP THE TEN HAGGIAN NARRATIVE GOING STRONG :3
They could also fit players into a 3box3 if they wanted now
l'm not buying it, erikson is still comfortably better on the ball he just doesn't have the legs. l really like mount just never thought of him ever leaving chelsea or coming to united, worse after his worst season. he is now our most important player, also him being the iconic number 7 and the price tag we got him for doesnt help at all. remember his best years at Chelsea mount played in front of kante and jorgihino world class duo at that time, no wonder mount did well. now we are asking mount to play like kante lol. anyway, it is done now, his here. l hope he succeeds otherwise we are stuck with another player on ridiculous wages
What is the app you guys use to show the pitch? I want to use it for my intramural team lol