Why Mason Mount is actually ideal for Manchester United

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    Mason Mount has signed for Manchester United, but 60 million pounds is a lot for a player who doesn't seem to perfectly replace any member of the Man Utd squad.
    Does he play as a 10? Bruno Fernandes has that position locked down.
    Could he play as an 8? He's no Christian Eriksen.
    Can he even play on the wing? Rashford might have something to say about that.
    So why does Jon Mackenzie think Mason Mount is actually ideal for Manchester United?
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Комментарии • 666

  • @colewilson98
    @colewilson98 Год назад +201

    Mount is an extremely versatile, hard working player. Every coach he’s had has sung his praises. Many top managers wanted him. It’s crazy to me fans doubt him (saying this as a Chelsea fan unhappy with his departure)

    • @HayKay_
      @HayKay_ Год назад +5

      I can endure Havertz leaving, but not Mount. But can't blame Mount. Chelsea became unstable under the new owners. Spent £600m on players and most of them don't fit. Won't be playing UCL. Club trying to recoup money and have to sell. Just hope 23/24 will be better for Chelsea and the new players perform. Hopefully, the board have learnt one or two things.

    • @VeryIntellijent
      @VeryIntellijent Год назад

      I am gutted that Mount hasn't worked out at Chelsea long-term, but I am not gutted about him leaving, if that makes sense. Watching Azpilicueta's goodbye video just reinforced that. When the going got tough, Mount mentally and emotionally checked out. It showed both on and off the pitch, and that's not what we need.

    • @dylansomewhere
      @dylansomewhere Год назад +2

      cause most of our fans are idiots and I can say that wholeheartedly, I hate this fan base sometimes with the ridiculous takes.

    • @JamesHussain82
      @JamesHussain82 Год назад +1

      Keeping a player soley because he came through the youth system is stupid. He wanted too much money and wouldn't have played. Simple.

    • @wesley20124
      @wesley20124 Год назад

      Think you nailed it. He's hard working, versatile and not much else

  • @hveisel
    @hveisel Год назад +534

    I know it's literally your job, but the way you guys use data to demonstrate your points and analysis is absolutely elite. Another banger video ❤

    • @felixbache5369
      @felixbache5369 Год назад +27

      makes you wonder why 'experts' on tv get so much airtime

    • @hveisel
      @hveisel Год назад +22

      @@felixbache5369 very good point! I have never seen a pundit/expert on tv even come close to the level of analysis you can find on youtube.

    • @Walter_Birantana
      @Walter_Birantana Год назад +10

      As a data analyst myself, I appreciate this, they follow the rudimentary steps with exceptionally

    • @Antonio-hb8rd
      @Antonio-hb8rd Год назад

      I bet you compliment the postman for delivering letters. smh.

    • @hveisel
      @hveisel Год назад +2

      @@Antonio-hb8rd no i usually dropkick them in their teeth

  • @joshua7734
    @joshua7734 Год назад +1254

    People are going to be shocked by how good of a signing this is.

    • @M4NA5
      @M4NA5 Год назад +186

      Ye, like Sancho and Antony.
      Either Mount or Bruno will fall off. Come back to this in a year.

    • @lwanelechirwa2057
      @lwanelechirwa2057 Год назад +18

      But why did he get no.7?

    • @celtic69
      @celtic69 Год назад +75

      @@lwanelechirwa2057ask fergie who gave it to a 1 legged Michael Owen

    • @fishfinger7145
      @fishfinger7145 Год назад +61

      ​@sharm4na5 it's antonys first season he can't be a flop yet

    • @litti1047
      @litti1047 Год назад

      Hope so

  • @glenrobinson10
    @glenrobinson10 Год назад +321

    When comparing to his role in Ten Hag's preferred system, it's much more likely to look like Ajax 21/22 than United 22/23.

    • @stoneyNET
      @stoneyNET Год назад +17

      That would make sense! So likely a 4-2-3-1 as that's what I recall them playing? With Mount and Case in the pivot and Bruno further forward? Things would of course change around while in possesion.

    • @jaki1584
      @jaki1584 Год назад +31

      I think Mount would play the VDB role and Bruno drops deeper. But that’s the good thing, they can switch positions throughout the 90 mins

    • @najibb5405
      @najibb5405 Год назад +9

      @@jaki1584yeah bruno has proven hes capable in dm position

    • @mrlace4776
      @mrlace4776 Год назад +18

      @@stoneyNET will move to a single pivot in casemiro. mount and bruno to play as two 8s in a traditional 4-3-3

    • @Stubz_g
      @Stubz_g Год назад +8

      @@stoneyNETmore a 4-3-3 with Bruno and Mount as 8s

  • @alfiehaigh8412
    @alfiehaigh8412 Год назад +264

    I think people are really missing the fact that bruno was great as a deep lying playmaker when he replaced eriksen, leading to the weghorst minutes at 10. Hes more energetic and defensively capable than eriksen (not saying hes a good defender by any means, but a solid improvement on eriksen) and one of the major criticisms labelled at bruno, that being his pass completion %, was actually better when he was playing deeper. Also unlike mount, we have evidence for bruno playing this role outside of manchester united as he did it at times for sporting
    Im not saying bruno next to casemiro and mount at 10 will be what happens every game or the default, but im honestly surprised how little its getting talked about as a posssibility (not directed specifically at Jon/Tifo, just something ive noticed in the general media coverage of mounts potential role)

    • @hambakhaya
      @hambakhaya Год назад +29

      Bruno's DLP performance against Everton at OT was one for the books. We were on control of that midfield and Bruno was playing next to Mctominay lol. I am surprised no one praised aside from you has spoken about how well he has played there before.
      My only problem is why didn't Ten Hag play Donny in the CAM and Bruno in the DLP role more last season (Not every game, but more last season)?

    • @Mopark25
      @Mopark25 Год назад +7

      ​@@hambakhayaDonny was injured. But I think he's going to be a real surprise this season, should get plenty of minutes.

    • @MrWill1729
      @MrWill1729 Год назад

      Mount will definitely be at 8, we shouldn’t sacrifice the best players skill set for someone else

    • @saqib7965
      @saqib7965 Год назад +1

      I've noticed this too it's very fluid with Bruno they can change position's during the game they both can play in the wide area/10 and 8

    • @paulstockton7121
      @paulstockton7121 Год назад +9

      Expect Mount and Bruno as RCM and LCM respectively. Casemiro as a lone CDM and the whole of the back line pushing further up the pitch, so Casemiro doesn't have to cover so much space.

  • @Anarkey
    @Anarkey Год назад +42

    Don't forget the age factor. Casemiro and Eriksen are both 31 this year while Bruno is 28. It's pretty obvious Mount is brought in to replace Eriksen once he hits 33-34 years old in 2-3 years. By then Mount would be 26-27 which is entering into prime age for a midfielder. Added benefit is that he gets to learn from all 3 during those couple of years by training and playing with them.

    • @rwalker0130
      @rwalker0130 Год назад +6

      Mount is gonna replace Erikson right now. Erikson is a great player and was a transformative signing for our squad last year but he just can't keep up physically with the best of the Prem and the Champions league at this point and completely ran out of gas last year after coming back from injury

    • @aystefan
      @aystefan Год назад +5

      @@rwalker0130 Eriksen still has a massive part to play though has to be said. Being able to switch between him and Mount will be very nice for Ten Hag

  • @jkkchow74
    @jkkchow74 Год назад +128

    When lampard brought him up from the academy in his first stint, I always wondered whether Mount will eventually be molded to be a lampard type CM. He hasn’t shown that he has a tendency to shoot or rush to the front like lampard. But maybe this is the jolt and freedom he needs. Maybe by the end of the season, ppl will appreciate the sort of potential he has. And if he starts scoring he will become the modern lampard.

    • @tequila_tibbs7938
      @tequila_tibbs7938 Год назад

      then he can become a manager

    • @alisankoh4052
      @alisankoh4052 Год назад +9

      Bruno is the modern Lampard

    • @steliosp1770
      @steliosp1770 Год назад

      he s the highest scorer and assister for chelsea since he started playing for them.. literally. he has a scholes-esque volley in him and great first and second touch. in ten hag's system especially if we also get Onana and hopefully a CF (still think Kane will be a real possibility just later in the window once he s had the opportunity to come back from his vacation and sit down with postecoglu and levy and let them know he s not gonna sign a new deal and that even if they dont let him move this summer he s gonna move next summer and still go to united - where he can play with rashford shaw and mount; players he knows from england whom with he has great synergy already as well as the most creative player in europe in fernandes and legends of the game in casemiro and varane as well as hugely talented players like martinez and onana and hopefully a sancho that finally finds his rhythm and confidence in a system that actually works all over the pitch.

    • @stephenonolan4298
      @stephenonolan4298 Год назад +5

      What? Literally Chelseas highest scorer since his debut, as mentioned in the video.

    • @areebsiddiqui758
      @areebsiddiqui758 Год назад +10

      @@alisankoh4052 Bruno is a 10, Lampard was an 8 or box to box midfielder.

  • @chibbyranjo
    @chibbyranjo Год назад +21

    Ten Hag is very good at building a team that does the things he wants them to do. That sounds obvious, but he doesn’t restrict himself to individual players performing set tasks. He is happy to move the position that individual qualities are in, as long as he has a collection of players that have all of those required qualities. His Ajax midfield morphed over a number of seasons with incoming players that weren’t always like-for-like replacements. He built a midfield that aggregated a set of qualities. Mount is just that. He has qualities that Ten Hag feels weren’t being covered across a number of players. That’s in part probably his stamina, his resilience to injury and pressing. None of which are particularly glamorous but watch him succeed.

    • @danecadette4714
      @danecadette4714 Год назад +2

      Also, Mount can carry and dribble better than Bruno but Bruno football i.q and passing is genius

  • @stuntmanmike6330
    @stuntmanmike6330 Год назад +23

    Love your Maldini shirt.. Best defender I've I've ever seen (Blanc 2nd).. I remember back in the 80s him saying that he knew he'd made a mistake in defence if he had to make a tackle.." That made a massive impression on me about how to defend in football.. LEGEND!

    • @Ken_from_mumbai
      @Ken_from_mumbai Год назад +5

      True. Italians are geniuses in defence. We don't get such players anymore.

    • @farhadchaudhry
      @farhadchaudhry Год назад +5

      Michael Carrick had that about him as well.
      Not in the sense of being an expert defender like Maldini. But that he knew how to defend without needing to make a tackle. It unassumingly kept United tight at the back. Matic was brought for this too but lost his legs.

    • @stuntmanmike6330
      @stuntmanmike6330 Год назад +3

      @@farhadchaudhry Rio also.. My dad always said the best defenders leave the pitch with clean shorts

    • @mkf628
      @mkf628 Год назад

      crazy highlight reels

  • @sheep910
    @sheep910 Год назад +69

    Truely great analysis. Seriously, compared to a lot of TV pundits you guys are geniuses

    • @zach1619
      @zach1619 Год назад +22

      True but the bar is pretty low for TV pundit’s level of analysis

    • @StoutProper
      @StoutProper Год назад +2

      @@zach1619exactly. I mean Rio ferdinand is there just to make Gary Neville seem knowledgeable

    • @saqib7965
      @saqib7965 Год назад

      All clueless 😂

  • @eggsII
    @eggsII Год назад +8

    One of Mount’s biggest strengths is his pressing ability. Another option for Ten Hag is to play two 10s and moving Shaw into an inverted fullback role. This would solve the pivot issue and provide more opportunity to press high. The only danger is that their wingers aren’t particularly defensively responsible…

    • @iad77
      @iad77 Год назад

      I can see that, ETH likes high pressure so probably 1 FB would go inverted with casemiro to protect the middle in possession then press high up if we lose possession

    • @bolajifashola7126
      @bolajifashola7126 Год назад +1

      Antony is though. it is the others that arent

  • @raiderwize4411
    @raiderwize4411 Год назад +47

    Last season we did see Bruno being played as a deep playmaker

    • @Cee_H
      @Cee_H Год назад +11

      We also saw Bruno play everywhere else except keeper 😂

    • @devinaustin1833
      @devinaustin1833 Год назад +2

      But if you remember at sampdoria and sporting thats where Bruno always started but he was allowed freedom to do more

  • @noleyt23
    @noleyt23 Год назад +7

    I've seen Bruno slot into that double pivot role with Casemiro last season. Perhaps Bruno could do the Eriksen's role, and have Mount play in Bruno's original position as a 10. Or they could have bruno and Mount as 8's in a midfield three with Casemiro, I see that as the most feasible

  • @Everestスノー
    @Everestスノー Год назад +6

    With Mount on the team, Bruno can stress less and be more innovative with the accumulating numbers of matches. And I hope none of the players get injured in upcoming season.

  • @florme6494
    @florme6494 Год назад +16

    He is probably the best player at total football. That’s why he was my favourite player at Chelsea. People get that confused as being the best individual player. He is no where near that. He allows managers to quickly change tactics in game without subbing and yet the standard won’t drop. He makes every player around him better with his intensity on and off the ball. He will improve Fernandez massively. It will go unnoticed but watch for his second assists.

    • @jorregritter3669
      @jorregritter3669 Год назад +2

      I mean, it’s not like he was far off from being their best player

    • @ireplytostupidpeople4750
      @ireplytostupidpeople4750 Год назад +1

      @@jorregritter3669 he isn't. Chelsea's best players have been Thiago Silva, Reece James etc. But there isn't one standout player from Chelsea

    • @GatterSzn
      @GatterSzn Год назад +3

      He was their best player for the last couple of seasons

    • @obiigwe8349
      @obiigwe8349 Год назад

      @@GatterSzn He was the fan favorite. Get it right

  • @danielthomas7351
    @danielthomas7351 Год назад +8

    At the end of the window, would Tifo be able to create a video or a podcast discussing and reviewing the Premier League clubs transfer business and perhaps draw comparisons to the sensible transfer videos to see from the analysts perspectives whether smart decisions were made?

  • @Tosa_Capital
    @Tosa_Capital Год назад +120

    Just the tactical analysis video I was waiting for 👌🏾... please prove these espn amateurs wrong🙌🏾

    • @BWart-zp5hy
      @BWart-zp5hy Год назад

      It seems like every signings can't be wrong nowadays

    • @jt19933
      @jt19933 Год назад +16

      @@BWart-zp5hyno. It seems like every signing must be wrong for top teams.

    • @BWart-zp5hy
      @BWart-zp5hy Год назад +1

      @@jt19933 wrong. I haven't heard any criticism about havertz, mount, rice transfers.
      This channel can't criticise a transfer and try to find positive in it

    • @goncalopereira8147
      @goncalopereira8147 Год назад +3

      ​@@BWart-zp5hy u cant find bad transfers in this type of clubs nowadays because of the amount of data and scouting they have, everything is taken to consideration and they dont just buy because hes good and nothing more, there is always a purpose, especially in this analytical era of football

    • @BWart-zp5hy
      @BWart-zp5hy Год назад

      @@goncalopereira8147 you seriously think big clubs can't make mistakes when there has been countless for past 2 decades

  • @matheusvilas770
    @matheusvilas770 Год назад +2

    You have to make a video about Ancelloti coaching Brazil. It is a turning point in South American football

  • @cjarmstrong5939
    @cjarmstrong5939 Год назад +1

    No question the quality and fit are bang on... but £60m for someone who has 1yr left on his contract & is desperate to come?
    It was similar with Casemiro - Madrid were desperate to recoup some money & had too many midfielders after buying Tchouameni & Camavinga. Utd also paid double what Anthony was worth.
    Consistent theme!

    • @harukrentz435
      @harukrentz435 Год назад

      We have clowns in charge of negotiation. We spent so much time just to pay the original asking price.

  • @bbqR0ADK1LL
    @bbqR0ADK1LL Год назад +27

    When Eriksen signed, people didn't think he could play that deep...

    • @olamilekanakala7542
      @olamilekanakala7542 Год назад +1

      And he really can't

    • @jorregritter3669
      @jorregritter3669 Год назад

      He had already played much deeper than he used to at Spurs at Inter and Brentford tbf

    • @toastedgrapes7961
      @toastedgrapes7961 Год назад +3

      @@olamilekanakala7542 He can. He doesn't have the pace he used to have at Spurs, but the attributes needed for a deep-lying playmaker are pretty similar to the CAM role he had at Spurs. Passing, vision, ball carrying, composure, set-piece delivery, etc. are all attributes Eriksen still has. The only real change is a lower number of goals and a slightly larger defensive responsibility, but Case does a fantastic job covering (mostly).

  • @bigfudge2031
    @bigfudge2031 Год назад +2

    Eriksen will be great to play in the easier home games to offer more creativity and also to bring on as a sub when we need a goal.

  • @jackielivsey
    @jackielivsey Год назад +1

    There is only Casemiro at Mounts level , I’m a Chelsea fan and I would buy him back tomorrow at £110m without a shadow of a doubt . It won’t be long until he is a crowd favourite there , you can’t fool the fans that attend the games they see they effort individuals do first hand Mount always gives 150%

  • @ayushsubedi6445
    @ayushsubedi6445 Год назад +1

    If ETH has signed then it will be usefull, unlike previous blind signings, which were mere done for commercial purposes

  • @HabitualLine-Stepper
    @HabitualLine-Stepper Год назад +15

    Please show Mason Mount's stats when playing against teams in the top half of the table (top half on the day of the game).
    RUclips videos like this confirm how what the American sports call analytics, is starting to take over English football.
    Samples of data are so important as they pose questions that often cannot be answered with another stat, such as 'Didier Drogba goal record in finals' cannot get explained with another stat.
    Mason Mount at Chelsea was a big fish in a pond that was unusually small. The timing was perfect for him: Hazard had just left, Willian and Pedro were older/slowed down, and the transfer ban meant no players could be signed.
    Added to that, Frank Lampard fell in love with Mount and played him for what he 'could do' rather than his inefficient production - so many bad free kicks, bad corners, misplaced passes, missed shots, missed one-on-ones, refusals to pass to teammates all overlooked by even Tifo.

    • @ascostinaratsire3567
      @ascostinaratsire3567 Год назад +2

      You perfectly articulated my exact thoughts on Mount

    • @jt19933
      @jt19933 Год назад +6

      Bitter! Mount does more well than he does bad. You are suggesting that YOU know more than all of the other managers that has managed Mount. You know squat mate. Humble yourself.

    • @TheChees1996
      @TheChees1996 Год назад

      He been holding Chelsea back for the last 4 years.

    • @celtic69
      @celtic69 Год назад +2

      What’s funny is this is what rival fans said to Chelsea fans for years, now he’s left they’re on board with this take and championing it

    • @TaiAkinz
      @TaiAkinz Год назад

      I agree

  • @simtyful
    @simtyful Год назад +4

    You people are smoking copium. MM's game is all about pass and press which is not what Utd currently do. He is a student of the Dutch and Barcelona styles of play. It's basketball mathematics where passing the ball creates the spaces. The current Manchester United style is based on exploiting opportunities in transition and Marcus Rashford suits this style perfectly. Ten Hag obviously wants to move away from the 'red rush' style to a more controlled Dutch style becuase it's what he knows. MM is part of that transition. His arrival is part of a program of disruption not evolution. A footballing keeper and a more technical spine to the team seem inevitable

    • @simtyful
      @simtyful Год назад +1

      @samwize28 don’t worry about MM in terms of ball retention. He’s one of those players who retain the ball against all odds. With respect to the others. There’s been a massive improvement since TH arrived. Before that, half the team wasn’t even getting their body position correct to receive a pass for efficient redistribution. But you can only play so many tunes on a broken piano. New more technically effective players will arrive. Slightly worried about Marcus Rashford fitting in. Raheem Sterling can’t retain possession at Chelsea.

    • @Mopark25
      @Mopark25 6 месяцев назад

      Year later and your comment was spot on. Unfortunately due to injuries we never got to see the transition.

  • @Dazzmondo95
    @Dazzmondo95 Год назад +2

    This is completely wrong. Utd already played with Casemiro as a single pivot last season. Bruno wasn't a single 10. Both he and either Eriksen or Fred played as advanced 8s/10s on either side of Casemiro. Mount is 100% coming into the team to take Eriksen's place. Maybe he could occasionally fill in other positions in times of major injuries but he'll play most of his time in a midfield 3. If we played a double pivot we would have gone for Caicedo instead of Mount.

  • @toph8298
    @toph8298 Год назад +3

    Tifo July 2024: ‘Why Mason Mount was never a good fit for United’

  • @skfootballislife
    @skfootballislife Год назад +15

    As a Chelsea fan who has seen him play since his move to Chelsea, I like how you spoke about how he generates space and looks to make those tough passes but in reality, he doesn't make anywhere near the amount of passes he needs to. Another aspect of MM is he is pathetic as a double pivot and as a DLP if Casemiro is moving forward. However, he is good as a situational Double Pivot as seen form his many games. He is also not a No 10 as many believe. He has neither the vision nor the passion range for Bruno. He is a Henderson style of player, a pure 8 with a little bit of everything. He is a HUGE upgrade to MacFred without an iota of doubt.
    I don't believe you said that he can be in the either wing. He is horrible in that space. He played as an AMF in the front 3 of the 3421 formation. Having said that with a change in team and quality players around, he may be able to up the ante going next season. He is a huge presser and that I agree.

    • @jt19933
      @jt19933 Год назад +2

      Mount will not play in the double pivot. If he does, it will be further up the field. As a situational pivot, Mount is fine dropping deep to collect the ball and playing progressive passes. I think you mistake pivot play as CDM. It's not the same thing.

    • @stormburns
      @stormburns Год назад

      What "move" to Chelsea 😅

    • @RL-
      @RL- Год назад

      @@stormburns following him since he was five years old 🧐😂

    • @stormburns
      @stormburns Год назад

      @@RL- 6 years old you mean xD

    • @RL-
      @RL- Год назад

      @@stormburns I just read something that said he was born in January 2000, so I thought he was still 23 for some reason 🤣

  • @BJarvey
    @BJarvey 5 месяцев назад +1

    This video aged welll. Mount is absolutely fantastic. He has scored and assisted 30g/a since bis signing.

  • @simonhdfifa1685
    @simonhdfifa1685 Год назад +3

    John's hand movements makes me feel like everythings gonna be alright

  • @leel9186
    @leel9186 Год назад +15

    I actually think we will have to No 8s. Mount and Bruno either side of Bruno, with them both taking in turns to roam and make late runs.

    • @ArunaUtd
      @ArunaUtd Год назад +7

      Either side of Case?

    • @lewisblackwiththenicehair
      @lewisblackwiththenicehair Год назад +15

      ​@@ArunaUtdnah Bruno has cloned himself over the summer 😂

    • @ArunaUtd
      @ArunaUtd Год назад +7

      @@lewisblackwiththenicehair Bro's about to play 102 games next szn 😭😭

    • @lewisblackwiththenicehair
      @lewisblackwiththenicehair Год назад +3

      @Ventovader123 knowing United that's probably per Bruno too 😂

    • @toastedgrapes7961
      @toastedgrapes7961 Год назад

      @@ArunaUtd Homie played 59 games last season lmao, he needs a rest occasionally.

  • @jopearson6321
    @jopearson6321 Год назад

    It's very rare that the fans are wrong about a player. If the fans are unhappy to see them go, it usually means they are a sefless soul who is putting in the hard yards. They may not show up as often on highlight reels, but the season ticket holders definitely notice and appreciate.
    The core problem is the defensive/progressive side of the game is still hilariously underrated. Your defenders can generally function if your attack is not firing. But if your defence isn't cohering, then your attack is probably screwed too. Everything builds off the back.
    I've always felt that the most important and cutthroat position on the pitch is central defence, and consequently your central defenders are your most important players. But they rarely get rated as highly as strikers, attacking midfielders, or wingers. But technical skill ain't everything. Not even close.
    Similarly, good attacking players who also have good defensive upsides are underrated. But having a profile that is strong across the board is a lot rarer than people realize.

  • @mylan_p
    @mylan_p Год назад

    Jon's "title" at 0:12 was class, lmao. Great video, as always

  • @rvn856
    @rvn856 Год назад +17

    He isn’t a replacement. He is an upgrade.

  • @mmmihir
    @mmmihir Год назад +51

    This signing tells me that Ten Hag is going to continue to play on the counterattack against good teams. With Bruno and Mount in the midfield along with a Onana for buildup and then a good striker up top, this team can compete.

    • @mercurialblonde
      @mercurialblonde Год назад +28

      I think people have really misread Ten Hag's style. He's much closer to Klopp than Pep. His best Ajax team was so fun to watch because they were insane on the counter. Every thing he's done so far as a manager tells me he wants to have an aggressive pressing side that plays quickly through the thirds. Think how Liverpool used to play when Klopp first got there. Kind of funnny that it's also kind of Rangnick's vision.

    • @celtic69
      @celtic69 Год назад +13

      Hojlund is also best in a counterattacking side, I think ETH has realised it’s going to take him a few years and a complete squad overhaul before he can implement the actual style he wants.

    • @eesafredericks2122
      @eesafredericks2122 Год назад +5

      ​@@mercurialblonde Pep team has been very direct in comparison to previous teams
      Peak Ten Hag teams are dominant in possession but also deadly on the counter

    • @nickd987
      @nickd987 Год назад +2

      @@mercurialblonde not really tho, he used width from wingers just like pep and not attacking full backs like klopp. He sees defending as an opportunity to control the other team and not as an attacking situation in case the intense pressing works (like what klopp tries to do). He wants numbers in the middle to control possession and doesn't really use interchanging positions like klopp does (With salah-trent- henderson). I think he is just very pragmatic and used what he had at Utd this season. Don't forget Pep finished 4th in his 1st season with city, when he inherited a far more balanced and a successfull team than Ten Hag got from that Rangnick circus.

    • @Mopark25
      @Mopark25 Год назад

      ​@@celtic69What do you think is missing? Technical and versatile players? I'd imagine Van De Beek and Sancho fits into the kind of football he wants to play, but neither have so far.

  • @benkidd4954
    @benkidd4954 Год назад +18

    Any thoughts on United switching to a 433, and also using Bruno as an 8? To me that seems like the most logical solution, Ten Hag didn't seem to mind playing him deeper at times last season

  • @dianabialaskahansen2972
    @dianabialaskahansen2972 Год назад +7

    I see him more as an 8 than a 10. Hardworking box to box midfielder.

  • @Amar-Yg6
    @Amar-Yg6 Год назад

    I think that in a lot of games, where man united would dominate with possesion, we could see mount as that no 8 on the right, alongside bruno, with Casemiro behind them two. What mount would do though, is do something similar to what he did under tuchel a few times when playing as a right winger, and have a partnership with the widest player on the right hand side. With Chelsea, it was Reece James, and with united, it would be antony. You can see on average heatmaps in the 22/23 season that united still have a tendency of players drifting towards the left hand side, which left antony to do all the work on the right. He's more of a link up player imo, so I think you could have Mount overlapping with antony and providing that link up, whilst providing more balance to united, even with sancho as well (if he's still at united). It also enables that flexibility into the final 3rd which was something we kinda missed. I don't see mount playing as a pivot at all for united to be honest, could be wrong though.

  • @kingof206
    @kingof206 Год назад +12

    There’s actually not many players like him in football. The closest I can compare him to is Gavi from Barcelona.

    • @Mopark25
      @Mopark25 Год назад +2

      Can you elaborate? What is it that makes them unique? I agree though, they're both very particular 8/10 hybrids.

    • @areebsiddiqui758
      @areebsiddiqui758 Год назад +3

      Mount does way more off the ball than Gavi IMO but Gavi might be slightly more technically gifted. What Mount lacks in skill and natural ability he makes up in tactical awareness which is why every manager he's played under absolutely loves him.

    • @jorregritter3669
      @jorregritter3669 Год назад

      @@areebsiddiqui758dk the stats but Gavi isn’t a player that’s afraid to get stuck in

  • @leo1fun
    @leo1fun Год назад +1

    Casemiro/Mount are the two signings United needed for a good amount of 4 years in order to play properly a 4-3-3 with the strong wingers they've had. It makes me happy that Ten Hag pulled this off in 2 summers without problem. With Ole this goddamn team were NEVER linked to a proper CDM or to an alternative to Pogba, at the time.

  • @kyleowen6492
    @kyleowen6492 Год назад +1

    Bruno Fernandes has never been unavailable

  • @MusicAndMonologues2
    @MusicAndMonologues2 Год назад +4

    Bruno, Casemiro, Mount, Eriksen and Donny..... are all ballers. Comfortable with fast pace, two touch, through balls, passing forwards. Hark back to sideways Fred and McT and it looks like ETH class is in session. Might be worth watching again.

  • @akshaypadmashali8686
    @akshaypadmashali8686 Год назад +7

    Mount has played deeper as a double pivot and those were his worst games in a Chelsea shirt... Honestly watching mount and havertz what I've seen is they are the best if they are played in a free role... Mount really presses well...but vacates the midfield a lot ... So u need to not play him anywhere where that will be an issue... Play him either cam or lw...

    • @akshaypadmashali8686
      @akshaypadmashali8686 Год назад

      @samwize28 I think that would leave casemiro isolated

    • @akshaypadmashali8686
      @akshaypadmashali8686 Год назад

      @samwize28 of you have someone like Henderson to support.. who isn't gonna vacate like mount and Bruno..

    • @overhaul8416
      @overhaul8416 Год назад +1

      @@akshaypadmashali8686 the idea is to make him isolated so the rest can push further up of the pitch. It already happens last season with Eriksen in the trio. The only difference is now Case won’t be forced to leave his midfield so much when there are more bodies now willing to contribute to the defence and we are signing goalkeepers that allow us to play a higher line

    • @akshaypadmashali8686
      @akshaypadmashali8686 Год назад

      @@overhaul8416 the spaces between the lines will increase if u play mount and Bruno together...that means the opposition can pick up the ball in that space easily and outnumber casimiro

    • @RL-
      @RL- Год назад

      @@akshaypadmashali8686 tbf Mount is a great defensive presence even playing in a front line of sorts. Before his game time was limited because he was playing on an increasingly dodgy pelvis, he was not only the top creator (despite being inexplicably taken off a lot of dead balls for the likes of Cucurella or Gallagher) but also the top ball winner at Chelsea. Using him in a more central role backed up by a more traditional holding midfielder makes sense because he has the ability and engine to contribute all over. He should be even better in a logical system than something like Tuchel's defensive keep ball, seven at the back nonsense.
      I'm not sure why Jon is talking about Mount doing deep lying playmaker stuff. You don't need that when you have a defensive midfielder, a more advanced midfielder and a complete link man to compliment the other two. But he can either retain the ball in deep areas or progress it with his directness, positivity and ability to half turn better than virtually everyone before spotting a pass.

  • @fergigaming3622
    @fergigaming3622 Год назад

    I think he missed the detail that bruno is very efficient at the 8 role and played there a few times last season so a set up of mount 10 and bruno 8 could also be expected

  • @sayankumarbanerjee7653
    @sayankumarbanerjee7653 Год назад +28

    I wish Manchester United bring in Onana and a number 9

    • @potetoesman
      @potetoesman Год назад +2

      Costa is better

    • @sayankumarbanerjee7653
      @sayankumarbanerjee7653 Год назад +1

      @@potetoesman Yeah bud, but Onana has played under Erik ten Hag before but also Costa is younger.

    • @someone-zx1xh
      @someone-zx1xh Год назад +6

      ​@@potetoesmanheight issues, onana is a lot more polished and a bigger character in the dressing room as he has shown in inter and ajax

    • @litti1047
      @litti1047 Год назад +1

      Hojlund and onana are coming

    • @youngdaggerdick6323
      @youngdaggerdick6323 Год назад

      And a rb and a cb and a cdm backup and a winger backup and a striker backup AND NEW OWNERS

  • @Gabru008
    @Gabru008 Год назад

    What you have not considered is the possibility of Ten Hag changing his system or moving some personnel around. For example he can play 4-3-3 with Bruno and Mount in 8 or he can use Bruno as an 8 and Mount in 10.
    He actually played Bruno in 8 a few times when Eriksen was injured and Sabitzer played in the 10 position, Bruno's performance in 8 were actually world class he has the vision, range of passing, clever touches and work rate to play in that position. This allows Mount to play in his preferred 10 and provide goals from open play, Bruno scores goals as well but I'll argue Mount is more prolific of the two.
    So for me it makes more sense to move Bruno to 8 and play Mount in 10 or play both as 8s and they can decide based on the situation who moves forward to support the attack

  • @MisterO98
    @MisterO98 Год назад +6

    I believe we will add Sofyan Amrabat to our midfield crew and sell Scott Mctominay and Fred leaving us with Christian Eriksen, Bruno Fernandes, Mason Mount, Casemiro, Sofyan Amrabat and Donny Van De Beek(He'll be like a new signing this coming season and is a much better player than either Fred or Scott by far). That's a good midfield with quality options if you ask me. It will be interesting to see what EtH does with Kobbie Mainoo, Hannibal Mejbri and Charlie Savage. Great analysis by Tifo btw!!!

    • @rwalker0130
      @rwalker0130 Год назад

      VDB is gone this year. best of luck to him but he didn't impress with the chances he got last year

  • @Mason.Greenwood
    @Mason.Greenwood Год назад

    15:33 casemero patrolling in the area, and that's all fine. *The Goat*

  • @baba_SZN
    @baba_SZN Год назад +1

    great work on the analysis, greaat video too.. but i just have to say, that that shirt is fire

  • @M4NA5
    @M4NA5 Год назад +19

    Man Utd. watched Tifo’s video “What does Mason Mount actually do?”

    • @midknight
      @midknight Год назад +7

      I too have suspected United does research by RUclips and just going after whoever their rivals want

    • @chidoemeka2486
      @chidoemeka2486 Год назад +1

      😂😂😂 people find way to make their minds happy .. smh

  • @asdfkie
    @asdfkie Год назад

    What’s happened is ten hag can’t get de jong to replace eriksen so he’s gone for Mount instead.

  • @AwakeningFromADream
    @AwakeningFromADream Год назад +1

    Can listen to Jon all day, always a joy

  • @Dresstosweatdottv
    @Dresstosweatdottv Год назад

    @tifo - Please ask mr goal post to check his facts. Mount said in November - "I like to think I'm a traditional midfielder even though I can play a number of roles for the team," said Mount, speaking back in November. "I've always said that I'm best as a No.8 and I've played there ever since I was a young kid.

  • @kuyikabasieffiong664
    @kuyikabasieffiong664 Год назад +22

    Great video as always lads.
    Can we get a Timber analysis? I am curious what he could bring to Arsenal.

    • @TJ_Jones1
      @TJ_Jones1 Год назад +2

      He will start at RB and shift to CB in a 3 when Arsenal go from 4-3-3 to 3-4-3 box

    • @lubbeandersson4306
      @lubbeandersson4306 Год назад

      @@TJ_Jones1
      And just keep White on the bench after an amazing season, seems weird

    • @Chango98
      @Chango98 Год назад +2

      @@lubbeandersson4306 We're hoping to be playing up to 60 games this season, both will see plenty of action. Look at how much back line rotation Man City got through last season

    • @TJ_Jones1
      @TJ_Jones1 Год назад +1

      @@lubbeandersson4306 it’s for depth, they have few CB options and if tierney leaves then tomiasu will play LB

  • @ayomitideoriade6621
    @ayomitideoriade6621 Год назад +4

    Mason mount was brought in to solve the jersey selling problem lol

    • @UtdGGMU0421
      @UtdGGMU0421 Год назад +5

      if that was the case united would've signed neymar, Mount is not a shirt seller, it was a player who was a priority for ten hag, but you lot will find anyway to hate united 😂

    • @ayomitideoriade6621
      @ayomitideoriade6621 Год назад

      Man U can’t afford Neymah….

    • @UtdGGMU0421
      @UtdGGMU0421 Год назад +1

      @@ayomitideoriade6621 they can? Neymar wouldn’t be more than 100 mil, probably way less actually 70-80

  • @celtic69
    @celtic69 Год назад +12

    Personally I think what he offers most is infinite pun opportunities for the social media team with his surname, that’s invaluable in this day and age.

    • @potetoesman
      @potetoesman Год назад +3

      There’s going to be such a big amount of puns every match…

    • @celtic69
      @celtic69 Год назад +7

      @@potetoesman “mason mounts our title charge” swiftly followed by “mason mounts our europa league storm” and finally “mason mounts our top 4 push”

  • @frassefrazer
    @frassefrazer Год назад +2

    Very good analysis! Feels like a very strange decision to buy him based on your injury table. United needs a center FWD and a good backup/replacement for Eriksen/Casemiro.

  • @lozcontreras
    @lozcontreras Год назад +1

    Regarding the deep lying playmaker, what people are forgetting is some of Bruno’s best performances came in this position. Mason could be pushed further forward to allow Bruno more time and space to control the game from a deeper position! It’s not a case of Mason Mount is definitely an 8 for MUFC… his arrival gives the option of Bruno being the 8!

  • @Nightsu
    @Nightsu Год назад

    that best 11 availability graphic is criminal. genuinely didnt know it was that bad.

  • @glaiver4ever
    @glaiver4ever Год назад +1

    Bruh, you guys said the same when we signed Weghorst! I'll just wait to see what happens on the pitch 😂

  • @PoliAstroN
    @PoliAstroN Год назад +1

    “When Bruno isn’t available”
    My brother, Bruno is the single most available player in the world. He played what, 74 matches last season? He always plays

  • @geoemm
    @geoemm Год назад +4

    The best thing about mount is he is one of these rare players who can be a threat on both half spaces.

    • @wespicedmemes
      @wespicedmemes Год назад

      True. De Bruyne Neymar brahim are the only ones I can think of who are good in both sides

  • @ruddd555
    @ruddd555 Год назад +19

    i genuinely dont know what to expect from this transfer especially after hes got the 7. Hes either going to be insanely good or flop horribly

    • @arinzemelifs1424
      @arinzemelifs1424 Год назад +3

      A little positivity wouldn't hurt you know.

    • @jbp2264
      @jbp2264 Год назад +1

      @@arinzemelifs1424he’s being realistic

  • @shardulmandloi
    @shardulmandloi Год назад +1

    Unless united are planning to replicate the 3 at the back formation, this transfer is a bust. He's not creative enough to be a 10, not defensively sound enough to be an 8. Great presser, horrible at tracking back. The only position he (and havertz) fit in are those inside forward ones that Tuchel used to play (which he did for good reason). Midfield 3 of casemiro, bruno, mount will struggle MASSIVELY in transitions and once the opposition break their press.

  • @martinkerrmusic
    @martinkerrmusic Год назад

    Cutting edge sports journalism is taking nearly 20 minutes to say: this guy is good because he can play in a few different positions...

  • @danecadette4714
    @danecadette4714 Год назад +1

    Mason mount will give a bit of what Ten Hag wanted in Frenkie De Jong, carrying the ball and helping beat the press( not as good as De Jong ). Mount is also good at pressing like Bruno Fernandez. I have no doubt he will be a great signing

  • @lisandromartinez.
    @lisandromartinez. 10 месяцев назад +2

    You said something about availability

  • @archipiratta
    @archipiratta Год назад

    As a Utd fan it's bittersweet to some extent coz Donnie was supposed to be that Mobile 8 that we got Mount for. Hopefully we can also resurrect that career

    • @iad77
      @iad77 Год назад

      Sadly seems the premier League just isn't suited to him.....

    • @iad77
      @iad77 Год назад

      I was just as sad when Kagawa didn't work out, he was such a great player but couldn't do it in the premier League.... And look at Sancho....😕

  • @ILKILO1
    @ILKILO1 Год назад

    Honestly I think it's Bruno who gets shifted deeper into midfield and Mount occupying the attacking midfield role or even the right wing role in the tighter games.

  • @doctorfreezy2654
    @doctorfreezy2654 Год назад

    Genuinely asking a question here...
    In the Chelsea example, wouldn't Jorginho have been a better pass because he'd put it directly on Havertz's left at a better shooting angle?
    Don't get me wrong, it's impressive that Mount has the technique to thread a pass like that, but in the context of getting the goal, it seems to me like the triangle would have set up a clearer chance...

  • @GilbertOscar
    @GilbertOscar Год назад

    If ETH goes with a double pivot, it could be Case and Bruno like he tried towards the end of last season, with Mount at 10

  • @steliosp1770
    @steliosp1770 Год назад

    When United want someone to do the deep playmaker role and Case moves a bit further like you described, its more often than not Bruno who does that and he ll still do it because he has a great ping and Case is a brilliant header of the ball. that wont change. if anything it just simplifies things for United cause Mount's job will remain the same as it ll always be even when the situation calls for this "Switch" lets call it. Mount will be the box to box 8 with the license to make 3rd man runs at the edge of the box and Casemiro and Bruno will play around him not the other way around. Bruno is hugely intelligent positioning wise; go listen to his BT Interview with Rio Ferdinand (same series that they did with Modric - brilliant content btw if you re a young midfielder). Bruno talks about how he has to adapt in different games and modify his role - after all its a pretty free one - depending on the specific game and situation and what he s often found is that "marking the referee" as he called it is pretty effective cause oppo players tend to avoid the space that refs occupy and it often leaves a small gap that can be exploited. That's just one example.

  • @coleyboy1921
    @coleyboy1921 Год назад +1

    This is the type of signing we are meant to make, take a player that profiles really well that is cheaper bc he’s had a mixed year and is coming out of a bloated squad. I guarantee we’d pay 80+ mil for him 2 years ago.

    • @CianMcCabe98
      @CianMcCabe98 Год назад

      He wouldn’t even have been available to sign from such a close rival before this year

  • @h4ndrix
    @h4ndrix Год назад +1

    This dude just said Eriksen is press resistant.. what game you've been watching? Dude wrecks it being pressed. Please stop having this Leeds fan/Utd hater, to do Utd contents.

    • @harukrentz435
      @harukrentz435 Год назад

      Lmao true. Eriksen was poor under pressure last season. People loved complaining about bruno losing the ball but most often than not, it was due to him starting our attack unlike Eriksen who lost it when he was in possession.

  • @rw4025
    @rw4025 Год назад +1

    He's the sort of player who would make any team better. Super hard-working, intelligent, and versatile. Really think he doesn't get enough appreciation because he's not really a highlights player, but every manager who's coached him has only had positive words.

  • @tryinggaming414
    @tryinggaming414 Год назад

    if mount was the only signing for the deep play i would be worried but since its very likely we are getting onana
    . the pressure on him to play as a pivot will be minimal since onana can play as an extra man during build up

  • @joeleaton8752
    @joeleaton8752 Год назад +1

    I don’t think Mount is the only CM ETH wants. Ideally United need an extra 6 which is why I think DVB may not be sold

    • @almawalker1432
      @almawalker1432 Год назад

      We haven’t seen the best of DVB at our club. Judging from a few glimpses of his play, movement, he is better than what we’ve seen so far. Unfortunate for him that Ole benched him that killed off his confidence. If TH give him a chance of redemption, he might just surprise us all.

  • @CustardCream14
    @CustardCream14 Год назад +1

    I usually hate Utd but I want Mount to do well and prove the haters wrong

  • @Joemamashouse69
    @Joemamashouse69 Год назад +7

    I don't think its a coincidence Bruno said on instagram, "Why'd you take so long to sign 😠". Sounds like he was upset that he didn't have a backup and had to play ridiculous minutes for multiple years.

    • @King1000x
      @King1000x Год назад +1

      He isn't being signed to be a backup

    • @Joemamashouse69
      @Joemamashouse69 Год назад

      @@King1000x yeah, but he will be the only other player on the team that can competently Bruno's playmaking role

  • @dkexpat2755
    @dkexpat2755 Год назад

    As a Dane, who love Christian Eriksen and United, this is kinda sad and a happy moment at the same time. This is the end of Eriksen at united.

    • @shaneoconnor8597
      @shaneoconnor8597 Год назад +1

      Really hope it isn’t. Eriksen should still start the majority of games to allow us to control the games.

  • @ronanfitzpatrick1261
    @ronanfitzpatrick1261 Год назад +1

    Great video Jon. Covered a huge amount of ground in less than 20min without it being overwhelming.
    Love to hear who you think Utd could/should sign as a striker for 50m or less & why. (Rumour the budget is 150m so if they do sign Onana, might be all they have...)

    • @MilkIsASauceTV
      @MilkIsASauceTV Год назад +1

      It’s looking like it’ll be hojlund

    • @ronanfitzpatrick1261
      @ronanfitzpatrick1261 Год назад

      @@MilkIsASauceTV Heard they're looking for €70m though

    • @nicknewman7848
      @nicknewman7848 Год назад +1

      If you sell, Bailly (4m), Williams (7m), Maguire (30m), Fred (20m), Henderson (23m), Martial (25m).. that's 109 million back in the pot. Those are estimates obviously.. some you'd get more, some less. Man Utd have to sell to fund what will be considered a decent window.

  • @DiscoSteve17
    @DiscoSteve17 Год назад +1

    Going to be one of the 8’s in a 433 no doubt

  • @aylu
    @aylu Год назад +1

    What if they opt for a box midfield in possession? Lisandro or dalot becoming the 2nd pivot, Bruno and mount as 8s

    • @iad77
      @iad77 Год назад

      Exactly ETH likes to play with 1 inverted FB or tucking in and Martines stepping up....

  • @hanif-pl5hd
    @hanif-pl5hd Год назад +2

    nice, how about amrabat, is he a good cdm for united, casemiro desperately needs cover especially with ucl matches

  • @Xavyer13
    @Xavyer13 Год назад

    Seems like a very dynamic player to KEEP THE TEN HAGGIAN NARRATIVE GOING STRONG :3

  • @benitojayadas1876
    @benitojayadas1876 Год назад +1

    Also last season we ran our squad to ground so it's not ideal for mid fielders to start that much game

  • @adriansteele7023
    @adriansteele7023 Год назад

    Id like to see mount hold Bruno's spot for 60 mins and then give bruno 30 mins as a super impact sub

  • @Tosa_Capital
    @Tosa_Capital Год назад +2

    It's the t-shirt for me 😂

  • @asdfkie
    @asdfkie Год назад

    What is happening to Chelsea lol they’ve just let the top 4 teams pick apart their midfield and take Mount, havertz and kovacic and leaving poch with bare bones. Probably havertz is the least smart transfer of the 3 but arsenal did well to get Declan rice who will probably make up for that.

  • @KT-ki6gz
    @KT-ki6gz Год назад

    Mason Mount: Gets handed the #7 shirt
    Jon Mackenzie: Gets handed YEET OR BE YEETED

  • @JoeyKneecap
    @JoeyKneecap Год назад +6

    At 250-300k a week, he better contribute.

    • @areebsiddiqui758
      @areebsiddiqui758 Год назад

      Can say the same for almost any player in United's squad.

  • @jt19933
    @jt19933 Год назад +7

    Mount is very good at transitional play so even if used as a situational pivot player, he'll do well. Chelsea fans want him to flop so they can laugh but they'll be surprised. Note: They shouldn't be.

    • @saqib7965
      @saqib7965 Год назад

      Mount is a Chelsea legend he pass won them the champions league and player of the year twice

  • @EchoMachineOne
    @EchoMachineOne Год назад

    Also Mount fixes the right wing, utd are overly reliant on the left. Mount will bring balance to the attack. I see him alongside Bruno with casemiro sat behind.

  • @StuartGarlick
    @StuartGarlick Год назад

    And Richard Arnold thought, "he's young, he plays for England, and Chelsea are having a desperate fire sale - plus he'd be great for engagement on socials."

    • @mickaelberte5144
      @mickaelberte5144 Год назад

      Lmfao he can't even play well against leed this flop

  • @johnjosh7539
    @johnjosh7539 Год назад

    Nice input details. The only that worried for Mason is his ability on defend

  • @keesh7
    @keesh7 Год назад

    What is the app you guys use to show the pitch? I want to use it for my intramural team lol

  • @jeffgumawid7554
    @jeffgumawid7554 Год назад +2

    Think of it as stacking up on players that can play as a 10 all over the pitch.
    Between KDB, Silva, Gundongan, Mahrez,Grealish and Foden, City is the blueprint for this.
    Now United dont have much on that front with Bruno, Eriksen and Mount, but it is a step in the right direction

    • @nicknewman7848
      @nicknewman7848 Год назад +1

      Interesting take. I would include Sancho in that group of 10's too.. so that's 4.. if you compare the similarities of Mahrez and Antony that's also a close comparison there, in style at least. Ten Hag has bought a versatile player who will improve his first team on and off the ball, his squad in general and ultimately his chances of improvement and therefore success. He knows exactly what he is doing and all the people on here saying it's a rubbish signing frankly don't understand what they're looking at.

  • @onwuegbuzieafamefuna5934
    @onwuegbuzieafamefuna5934 Год назад

    Damn, Jon. This was really good. I mean, elite tactical analysis!

  • @shirogane16
    @shirogane16 Год назад

    Im just glad we signed player that want to join united

  • @ondank
    @ondank Год назад

    Its hilarious how many people are claiming that United have overpaid. All moves can fail, but I just don't understand how the average pundit and outlet (looking at you goal who have published maybe 10 articles on why united shouldn't sign him) think they know better then all the managers who have picked him.
    After everything is said and done, Chelsea did try and keep him.