Why is fusion drumming so IMPOSSIBLE to play?!
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- Опубликовано: 7 июл 2024
- Yes yes! In today's lesson we are digging into the drumming of 4 fusion rippers- Lenny White, Billy Cobham, Chad Wackerman and Dave Weckl to answer the question, 'what makes fusion drumming so impossible to play?!'. We will use the groove and fill examples from classic tracks to give us 5 different concepts to work on to be able to play like a fusion wizard on the drums!
All of the notations from today's lesson are available as part of my ‘Modern Jazz and Fusion Notation Pack’ e-book. In this notation pack, you will find a total of 59 groove notations from drummers and artists playing in Modern Jazz, Fusion and related styles!
Link below! Alex 👊
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What do all those drummers have in common? They are jazz musicians. Let that sink in.
Yes! All of them can swing too!
Swing kings 👑
If they can't swing, they can't play the way they do. Let that sink in.
it's not that they're jazz musicians (though that's correct) it's that they listen to jazz.. there's a distinction there that metal guy who notices jazz guy has chops doesn't get right away
You know, all of them are so personalized and unique as well. It's all about being an individual and being true to yourself. The Secrete is to try not to sound like others and bring in something new never done or heard before. All those great Fusion and Prog drummers were innovators that set the standards and bar so high.
The time and energy it takes to make a video like this must be monumental! Just trying to even hear that Cobham groove underneath all that Jan Hammer soloing must've taken ages! Thanks for this - much appreciated.
Thanks Ed, appreciate it man! Haha, sometimes gotta just find the right part of the track to try and hear what’s going on! Keep killing it man! Alex 👊
I have been looking to expand my drumming to the next level and this for me basically lays out the steps of what i need to call myself an advanced drummer, I hope to learn a lot from your channel
Yes mate, so sick! Let me know how you get on! Alex 👊
Thank you so much! Your videos are absolutely exceptional. While there are many good ones out there, yours stand out for being accessible to beginners yet packed with insights for learners like me who are striving to reach an intermediate level.
I've come to realize that a major hurdle I face is my tendency to rush into playing complete songs from start to finish without first getting familiar with the fundamental building blocks. Now, I'm making a conscious effort to prioritize practices such as studying rhythmic cells individually, experimenting with different permutations of them, practicing at slower tempos, and gradually increasing the speed - sometimes even faster than the original music, if feasible. In fact, there's so much to unpack that delving into a single song becomes a comprehensive study session in itself.
Thanks for the kind words, stoked you’re getting something from the vids! Alex 👊
Excellent videos and your downloads are on point. Bravo!
Stoked you are getting something from them Jack, my dude! Alex 👊
On a very different not: I applaud your fashion sense in trousers.
Haha thanks my dude! Alex 👊
Sooo underrated!!!! very concise and all that good video!
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Jazz Fusion… THE GREATEST GENRE OF MUSIC EVER ❤❤❤❤❤
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The best drum channel on you tube by far 👍Glad i found it 🙂
Ayyyy thanks mate, appreciate the kind words and stoked you are getting something from the videos! Alex 👊
Bro! Thank you! I had just recently been thinking about learning the got a match groove! Best drum channel!
Yes mate, such a beast groove! Weckl is a beast! Alex 👊
excellent, as always!
🤜 hope you’re well mate! Alex
Thanks for this!
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So interesting. Another great video.
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Truly quality content, thanks a ton
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Nice drums sound u got there
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Great!!!
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Loved your approch to practice in the speed section! Definitely agree with you that some things start to sound 'too normal' after a while 😂
Haha 100% mate! Thanks for watching! Alex 👊
Top stuff lad.
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Thank you. One of the best channels. Subb'd.
Legend mate, stoked to have you in the crew! Alex 👊
Great video! Seems like knowing the basics especially rudiments are crucial to developing the chops neccesary to playing fusion but just being a better drummer.
100% mate! Thanks for watching! Alex 👊
@DrumHubTuition great stuff why I subscribed to you
Great Video and drumming. Subbed.
Legend! Stoked to have you in the crew! Alex 👊
So many forget the practise of smooth and slow is the foundation to effortless speed.
💯 thanks for watching! Alex 👊
Haha you look so happy talking about this ❤
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this channel is soooo so so good, appreciate you m8! while we’re on the fusion kick, would love to hear you break down some Snarky Puppy grooves sometime!
Appreciate it mate! Larnell Lewis is on the list for sure, he’s just too good man haha! Alex 👊
Great video, man! And such a funny coincidence, as I have been working on Got a Match after having put it off for years. On the B section you transcribed and played, I actually hear it a little differently - I think he only plays the "skip notes" with his left foot and just plays quarter notes on the ride. So hard for a guy without a jazz background like me, but so fun to learn!
And what I forgot to say is, does anyone else hear it this way, or am I just missing Dave's skip notes on the ride?
Sick man! Yeah such a beast of a tune! I think the foot pattern varies depending on version and section- the section I wrote out is at 00:38 on the studio version, where you can hear the hi hat chicks on different parts of the beat (imo) but it does change throughout! Hard to hear sometimes on these old recordings though haha, I just commit to what I hear and take it from there! Thanks for watching and for the kind words! Alex 👊
Right, totally agree with you there, both on the hi-hat chick patterns changing up and it being super hard to hear! :)
What I'm hearing different is that where he plays chicks on the Es and As, he just plays straight 8ths on the ride - he skips the "skip" notes. I could be wrong tho.
@@cpizz99 ah I see what you mean now, I misunderstood the first comment- my bad! Oh yeah that could be right too, so many options haha! Weckl is too good! 🔥
@@DrumHubTuition, yeah, we just need @TimBuell to come along and transcribe the whole song...Tiiiiiiiiiiim, we need you!
Speaking of odd time signatures, the other day I listened to Spanish Moss by Billy Cobham, which was in 17/16, that's brutal.
🔥🔥 Cobham is a wild man haha! Alex 👊
That is class content my dude 🎉
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@@DrumHubTuition big up yourself 👊😎🤘🏻🥁
can i just say: u are 🔥🔥🔥 thanks for all that u do ! subbed now
Stoked to have you in the crew! Alex 👊
What makes fusion drumming difficult are the compositions. The main reason is that great musicians like Corea, Zappa, McLaughlin, want to push their limits and hire people able to play their music. Metheny said once "I hire drummers who are pianists, they understand the music from the inside". Paul Wertico had to work to play in 22/8 (First circle) or fast (Third wind).
In jazz like in rock music, it's usually not the drummers who make history. But I will make an exception for a few drummers who composed. Louie Bellson, who invented the double bass drumming and four sticks playing (Duke said he was the greatest musician alive, a little exaggerated as Stravinsky was still breathing), Max Roach, Jack DeJohnette who is an excellent pianist and composer. Cobham or White also compose.
Don't miss the big picture like most drums channels. What matters is the quality of the music.
Bro I’ve been watching your videos for a minute now. Your videos are unique, to the point, informative, practical and interesting. Your playing is clean and your attitude is great. Thank you for all your help! Cheers. KRLRLKRLKRLLRRLRRKRLL
Thanks for the kind words mate! Always sick to hear people are getting something from the videos! Alex 👊
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Jazz drummers rule !
youre a god
Haha, legend mate 🤜
Dude. You need to watch takashi sasaki from the Japanese Jazz Fusion Band Casiopea
Sick, will check it out! Thanks for the recommendation! Alex 👊
Gary Novak & Virgil Donati = in the conversation .
How’d you age your K light Hihats so well?
They are just close to 10 years old and never been cleaned haha! Alex 👊
@@DrumHubTuition did it get lower than it was when you first bought it? I'm finding mine a little too bright 🤔
100% man! I have found that with every new cymabl I've ever bought- takes a few months to settle in and stop sounding so harsh! Just gotta keep playing them in and they sound better over time imo! Alex@@bryanczy4700
It may be Gary Husband and not Chad Wackerman on that Holdsworth track
Listed as Chad Wackerman on discogs, although no idea if that’s always 100% accurate? Thanks for watching my dude! Alex 👊
ok but where did you get those pants? lol
Haha they are dickies ones! Thanks for watching! Alex 👊
It's as hard to play as it is to get good pay
Great video Alex - Thanks again for the lesson back in January. I was practicing some of the printouts you gave me today, I also watched this video the other night (ruclips.net/video/vB9TkVo5zLU/видео.htmlsi=g_kr8e05xIsFW14h). There is a part I liked in Billy's video where he is hitting the cymbal from below and above in quick succession - I've never seen that before. Peace!
Hey dude, was a super fun lesson and stoked to spend some of your birthday with you man! Glad you’re getting something from the concepts we covered! Sick, I will check out that video, great the full thing is up! Hope you enjoyed the rest of your trip mate! Alex 👊
Grow a mullet got it, thanks!!!
The only way 💁♀️
Because it is an ersatz genre cobbled together in the late 60s to respond to market forces instead of being a real form of music. Plus, it's boring and only played by "jazz school" types, who have had all SOUL beaten out of them. Next?
I quite agree. This is why i only listen to music that can be created by banging animal bones on hollowed out logs. Everything after is just so watered down, so ersatz.
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Learn your rudiments. period
Because it’s not really “a genre”…
Jazz Fusion=Billy Cobham.
Not necessarily, because Billy has played A LOT of straight-ahead jazz as well.
@@jerryjazzbo2845 Yes necessarily.
@@jerryjazzbo2845 Billy Cobham is the fastest drummer ever.
@@skillet6870 Your opinion. Doesn't make me wrong, nor does it make you right...nor is it that important.
@@jerryjazzbo2845 The FASTEST! Buddy rich takes a back seat to Billy Cobham.
Fusion drumming great. Fusion music AWFUL.
Haha, I get that for sure- I kind of love it though for how weird and dated it sounds 😂 bring on the cheesy synths! Alex 👊