I have a question for anyone scrolling down who may know: Why do they not fully retract flaps, but instead keep them at flaps 1, with respect to the temperature being 31 degrees? I did actually get the chance to ask an A330 F.O. a few weeks ago but he answered so quickly and decisively, and I just did not understand it! and it felt rude to ask again. So any of you guys know?
When it is above 30 degrees Celsius (86 F) there can be a overheat in the bleed ducts on the wing. To prevent it from happening, the pilots keep the flaps and slats extended (CONF 1+F). Basically, the gap left between the slats and the wing keeps it ventilated.
MB Media thanks a lot man! Great explanation and very concise. Appreciate it! If I may push it and ask one more... does it have to be specifically 1+F, because she calls out just flaps 1, do you have to change the fight phase back to ‘after start’ to get a 1+F conf? I always thought retracting after landing went 4, 3, 3, 1 and the 1+F was a before takeoff logic?
@@AviationHubOfficial Well, I'm not to sure. I have only seen a A330 with 1+F a couple of times and it always has been 1+F. It may change between aircraft because I know a 737-8 would always use full flaps in these situations because well Flap 1 on a 737-8 won't do anything compared to a A330, the gap is much larger.
@@AviationHubOfficial As far as I know, 1+F is always the case upon being on the ground or retracing the flaps. If you extend them to the position 1 on the ground, the trailing edge flaps will extend as well (1+F). In the air, only the leading edge flaps (slats) extend. During retraction, 1+F is always the case...
The reason for not fully retracting the flaps is in case of an emergency they won't have too much drag to pull up to abort the landing. All they would have to do is retract the Flaps back to 0 and pull up on the yoke.
That TCAS warning really scared her. It seemed like it caught the first officer off guard. Great job to maintain composure after the warning though. Can tell she was really well trained.
While most alerts are insignificant, and the chance of air-to-air collision is infinitesimally low, practically zero, doesn't change the fact that an alert has been the last thing a pilot heard...
They came within about 1NM laterally of another aircraft that was climbing, even though it was 3,500ft below it was climbing fast enough to have their theoretical paths cross (plus the added margin). ATC would have been actively separating all this traffic so I think the pilot below was climbing at a faster rate than ATC anticipated. It's worth realizing that the TCAS on the traffic below would have been alerted too, and they would have almost certainly reduced their rate of climb on seeing it!
I had a similar near miss in a C172 climbing out of Moorabbin Airport in Australia. only up to around 1500ft and I saw a shadow pass from underneath our plane behind and to my left. Couple of seconds later a black painted plane shot out from under the windscreen to the right of us. No TCAS so we called it ourselves but man it was scary especially for a student pilot like me. Always really important to do constant visual checks but even then we couldn't see them
What was notable to me was the good CRM and ability of both pilots - and ATC - to catch each other’s errors: the incorrect vertical speed, wrong heading on final and mistaken parking spot. Teamwork is essential and showing the glitches (as well as the FO’s reaction to the TCAS) offers a realistic look at what goes on in the cockpit. I also would note that these two pilots are quite chatty, which is not necessarily a problem. Every crew is different. I do think these two are very professional and work well together.
Yeh they work really well together. Really good comms and they don’t mind correcting each other, this is great CRM and I’d feel completely confident if I was a passenger on their flight.
@@VAHOSS those things happen but u gotta move on and focus on ur work in a split second and she did just that.Handed over te control to the captain and did her job.after all we r all human yeah.
I blame ATC that allowed such a potential collision trigger TCAS. The first officer did a very great job during whole the approach and landing process.
It often surprises me with the quick instant memory of pilots. As soon as they land they have to quickly accept and memorize exit ramp, possibly hold short at a crossway, 2-3 turn sequences to their gate, tower frequency. I would think it would be so easy to forget or miss a turn.
Great video though I prefer without music. I can hear music anytime on my own. The cockpit sounds and conversation are what I'm interested in. The musical interludes are kind of distracting and take me out of the moment, I find. To each their own!
The men and women that pilot these massive planes carrying so many people. My heart goes out to them. So much training. You have to be a genius to do this. At least very smart and alert at all times. I would be so nervous 😬 😂. God bless the good people of this Earth 🙏
Watched this cpt pilot the a350, a330 and B777. Everytime his teaching judgment is second to none and the lady 1st officer is the most on the ball new start, I have ever seen. What a team in that cockpit....
What a great team! What really comes through for me is how relaxed and open everything is - they're both just focused on getting the job done and working together. No sign of that 'rank and command' stuff that we used to see, where people would be afraid to call anything out.
made this approach a time or three: depart west over dade/broward line, over dolphin stadium, baseleg south, a couple of 45 degree cuts to the 9right localizer, over the glades, parallel to the airport expressway, with a glorious view of downtown skyline, all the way to the end of 9 right. plenty of runway, nice long airliner approach. shazaam.....
When the TCAS went off warning of the other traffic it startled her so much that she nearly jumped out of her seat. And one of the flight attendants was let in to just tell the pilots cabin and galley was secured, that even distracted me and I was just watching the video not flying the airplane. Why not just use the intercom and call the cockpit to let them know everything was ready and secured for landing?
HAHA. SWISS AIR? are they really qulified as pilot? hahah so funny. Miami is the one of the busiest airport. ATC said Cleared to RNAV Appro. but you guys did Visual appro even reported TWR Rnav approach 09. haha. i hope i will not be this paseenger.
If she didn't have her seatbelt on she'd have ejected herself out the windshield when TCAS came on. Also what in the hell is the flight attendant doing IN the cockpit DURING approach? Has anyone heard of sterile cockpit? Fuck me. AND she's using the wrong callsign... Wow I am never flying Swiss.
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I have a question for anyone scrolling down who may know: Why do they not fully retract flaps, but instead keep them at flaps 1, with respect to the temperature being 31 degrees? I did actually get the chance to ask an A330 F.O. a few weeks ago but he answered so quickly and decisively, and I just did not understand it! and it felt rude to ask again. So any of you guys know?
Airbus procedure. Hot weather conditions may cause overheating to be detected around the bleed ducts on the wing causing a warning. To avoid it, Airbus says to keep conf 1 after landing (thus having air flowing around the ducts in order to cool them) when the temperature is above 30°C.
Yes, TCAS will first give a Traffic Advisory (TA), which is based on extrapolated data. Meaning if both planes continue at their current heading/speed/altitude/rate of decent or climb/etc a collision is highly likely. At this point pilots are to look for the traffic and maintain visual separation, which is exactly what she did in the video. And/or make adjustment within the confines of what ATC has cleared. For example, adjust your rate of descend (descend slower or faster) in order to maintain separation, which he did in the video too, by adjusting the rate to -1000 vertical speed, while they were at -1800 when the alert was issues. A Resolution Advisory (RA) is issued once the conflict remains unresolved and a threat of collision is more imminent. Which than also require the pilots to take immediate action, dependent on the advisory issues. For example a "Descend now" or more likely in the video above "reduce descend" or even "level off", while the other plane might get something along the lines "reduce climb". Which must of course be communicated to ATC, so they know what is currently going on and what those planes in conflict are doing.
Because otherwise you’d be flying too fast for flaps 4 but too slow for flaps 1 and in an Airbus the auto thrust won’t let you slow down too far below the next flap speed. The idea is to slow down gradually, not suddenly
I wish I had a better description for you, but TCAS alerts work like this. Other aircraft in your vicinity show up as a white outlined diamond. When they get within a certain distance they turn into a solid white diamond. When they get a bit too close it turns into a solid red diamond and you get a “traffic, traffic” audible alert. When they’re dangerously close, that red diamond starts flashing and you get another audible alert, “traffic, traffic, (climb or descend)”. I guess I was slightly off.
8:59 can someone clarify what the tower was instructing the pilots to do? What does tower mean when he says "hold short of your runway"? I, like the first officer, at first interpreted it as a LAHSO instruction to hold short of runway 12.
I was wondering is it possible to program the Flight Computer with a Land Program and a Takeoff Program that will automatically set the flaps and bring down the landing gear turn on the Fasten Seatbelt Sign, Switch Off the IFE and switch the IFE to the Airshow Map and play the automated arrival announcements for the designated airport or Arrival Video if available and then switch on the Front Camera for passengers to see the landing or takeoff? How do you Modify the Flight Computer to work with all systems?
They were cleared for the RNAV and tried to fly the visual. Seems like this was lost in translation. You can’t deviate from the published procedure unless cleared for the visual specifically.
I think that great people and great professional workers born from the knowledge of their mistakes. When the captain makes his point "a little bit chaotic" he knows that they've made some little mistakes. He grows up some more and she will grow as well. Great job and great landing though
That TCAS warning really scared her. It seemed like it caught the first officer off guard. Great job to maintain composure after the warning though. Can tell she was really well trained.
I have a question for anyone scrolling down who may know: Why do they not fully retract flaps, but instead keep them at flaps 1, with respect to the temperature being 31 degrees? I did actually get the chance to ask an A330 F.O. a few weeks ago but he answered so quickly and decisively, and I just did not understand it! and it felt rude to ask again. So any of you guys know?
When it is above 30 degrees Celsius (86 F) there can be a overheat in the bleed ducts on the wing. To prevent it from happening, the pilots keep the flaps and slats extended (CONF 1+F).
Basically, the gap left between the slats and the wing keeps it ventilated.
MB Media thanks a lot man! Great explanation and very concise. Appreciate it!
If I may push it and ask one more... does it have to be specifically 1+F, because she calls out just flaps 1, do you have to change the fight phase back to ‘after start’ to get a 1+F conf? I always thought retracting after landing went 4, 3, 3, 1 and the 1+F was a before takeoff logic?
@@AviationHubOfficial Well, I'm not to sure. I have only seen a A330 with 1+F a couple of times and it always has been 1+F. It may change between aircraft because I know a 737-8 would always use full flaps in these situations because well Flap 1 on a 737-8 won't do anything compared to a A330, the gap is much larger.
@@AviationHubOfficial As far as I know, 1+F is always the case upon being on the ground or retracing the flaps. If you extend them to the position 1 on the ground, the trailing edge flaps will extend as well (1+F). In the air, only the leading edge flaps (slats) extend.
During retraction, 1+F is always the case...
The reason for not fully retracting the flaps is in case of an emergency they won't have too much drag to pull up to abort the landing. All they would have to do is retract the Flaps back to 0 and pull up on the yoke.
That TCAS warning really scared her. It seemed like it caught the first officer off guard. Great job to maintain composure after the warning though. Can tell she was really well trained.
While most alerts are insignificant, and the chance of air-to-air collision is infinitesimally low, practically zero, doesn't change the fact that an alert has been the last thing a pilot heard...
Sports Nation Why was there a TCAS warning ?
They came within about 1NM laterally of another aircraft that was climbing, even though it was 3,500ft below it was climbing fast enough to have their theoretical paths cross (plus the added margin). ATC would have been actively separating all this traffic so I think the pilot below was climbing at a faster rate than ATC anticipated. It's worth realizing that the TCAS on the traffic below would have been alerted too, and they would have almost certainly reduced their rate of climb on seeing it!
I had a similar near miss in a C172 climbing out of Moorabbin Airport in Australia. only up to around 1500ft and I saw a shadow pass from underneath our plane behind and to my left. Couple of seconds later a black painted plane shot out from under the windscreen to the right of us. No TCAS so we called it ourselves but man it was scary especially for a student pilot like me. Always really important to do constant visual checks but even then we couldn't see them
Sports Nation the cocpit shook
0:47 What a fright the poor lady lol
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Duh, if there us another plane close by, I think you might shit yourself. When that alarm comes
Scary
What was notable to me was the good CRM and ability of both pilots - and ATC - to catch each other’s errors: the incorrect vertical speed, wrong heading on final and mistaken parking spot. Teamwork is essential and showing the glitches (as well as the FO’s reaction to the TCAS) offers a realistic look at what goes on in the cockpit. I also would note that these two pilots are quite chatty, which is not necessarily a problem. Every crew is different. I do think these two are very professional and work well together.
Yeh they work really well together. Really good comms and they don’t mind correcting each other, this is great CRM and I’d feel completely confident if I was a passenger on their flight.
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I really like A330's wingtip
A lot of unnecessary conversation below 10,000 feet on approach. No wonder he flew through the final approach course. Her mistakes are dangerous.
Like what? Looked fine to me.
The captain seems like a great guy! So relaxed and focused at the same time. A great leader.
Wow, looks like father and daughter flying above the clouds again
Perfect reaction - calm and collected :) Makes you more confident to be a passenger!
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@ZS - 10ZZ 930779 Rick Hansen SS with a potential closing speed of over 1,000 mph I think I'd jump too.
@@VAHOSS those things happen but u gotta move on and focus on ur work in a split second and she did just that.Handed over te control to the captain and did her job.after all we r all human yeah.
I blame ATC that allowed such a potential collision trigger TCAS. The first officer did a very great job during whole the approach and landing process.
TA can happen in busy traffic area. It's the RA you dont want.
The poster commented that the other aircraft was most likely climbing faster than expected
It often surprises me with the quick instant memory of pilots. As soon as they land they have to quickly accept and memorize exit ramp, possibly hold short at a crossway, 2-3 turn sequences to their gate, tower frequency. I would think it would be so easy to forget or miss a turn.
Great video though I prefer without music. I can hear music anytime on my own. The cockpit sounds and conversation are what I'm interested in. The musical interludes are kind of distracting and take me out of the moment, I find. To each their own!
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The men and women that pilot these massive planes carrying so many people. My heart goes out to them. So much training. You have to be a genius to do this. At least very smart and alert at all times. I would be so nervous 😬 😂. God bless the good people of this Earth 🙏
Swiss 001 is Missing here :)
1:03 You can see another aircraft in the bottom right corner more to the center
Thanks. That helped me find the plane, I skipped back five times and couldn't find it till now. Thx
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Traffic in sight!
Great job! and furthermore, Jennifer is so cute...
I enjoy the tweak of the autopilot... Had a lot of fun with that
Watched this cpt pilot the a350, a330 and B777. Everytime his teaching judgment is second to none and the lady 1st officer is the most on the ball new start, I have ever seen. What a team in that cockpit....
Once you've learned a little German (hoch Deutsch), spoken Swiss German is like a separate language.
judd1157 thought it was Dutch at first lol
2:55 little did he know there was a camera in the cockpit
wow that was chaotic approach.. amazingly handled.
slight low? I saw 4 reds at 100ft!
Someday i’ll fly airbus, i believe...
What a great team! What really comes through for me is how relaxed and open everything is - they're both just focused on getting the job done and working together. No sign of that 'rank and command' stuff that we used to see, where people would be afraid to call anything out.
Fantastic video!
0:47
00:46 wtf
TRAFFIC! TRAFFIC!
Lol, she realised there is another plane close by
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@@UlrikBrun-ir7mh bro she's a pilot, wtf is that reaction
Perfect touchdown!
Tbh, from my point of view as just an avgeek even though she got shocked by the TCAS she quickly acted quiet professional.
2:55 little did he know there was a camera in the cockpit
made this approach a time or three: depart west over dade/broward line, over dolphin stadium, baseleg south, a couple of 45 degree cuts to the 9right localizer, over the glades, parallel to the airport expressway, with a glorious view of downtown skyline, all the way to the end of 9 right. plenty of runway, nice long airliner approach. shazaam.....
This was one of the smoothest landing ever performed. Great job!
When the TCAS went off warning of the other traffic it startled her so much that she nearly jumped out of her seat. And one of the flight attendants was let in to just tell the pilots cabin and galley was secured, that even distracted me and I was just watching the video not flying the airplane. Why not just use the intercom and call the cockpit to let them know everything was ready and secured for landing?
Because they were near the airspace of another aircraft.
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seems overly complex to me. should be easier than that.
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HAHA. SWISS AIR? are they really qulified as pilot? hahah so funny. Miami is the one of the busiest airport. ATC said Cleared to RNAV Appro. but you guys did Visual appro even reported TWR Rnav approach 09. haha. i hope i will not be this paseenger.
TCAS: TRAFFIC TRAFFIC
*Pilot:* Shits her pants
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These are the most peaceful piloting crew I ever seen ,even though I and I believe everyone here loved it .Was it alarming or is just me ?
If she didn't have her seatbelt on she'd have ejected herself out the windshield when TCAS came on.
Also what in the hell is the flight attendant doing IN the cockpit DURING approach? Has anyone heard of sterile cockpit? Fuck me.
AND she's using the wrong callsign...
Wow I am never flying Swiss.
So this guy is the captain for every airplane in swiss's fleet? hahaha
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what are the two wheels on either side of the throttle levers that rotate automatically?
Elevator to trim
But where's the chocolate?
Thank you . . I miss flying so far ... !!!
I thought the Swiss were only good at making chocolate
...at any altitude.
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Dream come true.Now im student pilot.
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What a beautiful flight..loved the clouds scenery was so un to watch
cut the music
Traffic 😱😱!!!
From 2:05 it gets magical.
Cool pilots...
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0:45 she shocked
I have a question for anyone scrolling down who may know: Why do they not fully retract flaps, but instead keep them at flaps 1, with respect to the temperature being 31 degrees? I did actually get the chance to ask an A330 F.O. a few weeks ago but he answered so quickly and decisively, and I just did not understand it! and it felt rude to ask again. So any of you guys know?
Airbus procedure. Hot weather conditions may cause overheating to be detected around the bleed ducts on the wing causing a warning. To avoid it, Airbus says to keep conf 1 after landing (thus having air flowing around the ducts in order to cool them) when the temperature is above 30°C.
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Is it normal for TCAS to not give an advisory action?
Yes, TCAS will first give a Traffic Advisory (TA), which is based on extrapolated data. Meaning if both planes continue at their current heading/speed/altitude/rate of decent or climb/etc a collision is highly likely. At this point pilots are to look for the traffic and maintain visual separation, which is exactly what she did in the video. And/or make adjustment within the confines of what ATC has cleared. For example, adjust your rate of descend (descend slower or faster) in order to maintain separation, which he did in the video too, by adjusting the rate to -1000 vertical speed, while they were at -1800 when the alert was issues.
A Resolution Advisory (RA) is issued once the conflict remains unresolved and a threat of collision is more imminent. Which than also require the pilots to take immediate action, dependent on the advisory issues. For example a "Descend now" or more likely in the video above "reduce descend" or even "level off", while the other plane might get something along the lines "reduce climb". Which must of course be communicated to ATC, so they know what is currently going on and what those planes in conflict are doing.
Thanks for that, the only videos I've seen of it previously have been RAs.
Why were they flapping 1,2,3,4 can’t they do directly do full can any one solve my question
Because otherwise you’d be flying too fast for flaps 4 but too slow for flaps 1 and in an Airbus the auto thrust won’t let you slow down too far below the next flap speed. The idea is to slow down gradually, not suddenly
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Oh yeah, I enjoy too AFX on flight, usually on Vatsim
Mann i just wanna touch those buttons randomly
Why didnt TCAS say to climb or descend?
I wish I had a better description for you, but TCAS alerts work like this. Other aircraft in your vicinity show up as a white outlined diamond. When they get within a certain distance they turn into a solid white diamond. When they get a bit too close it turns into a solid red diamond and you get a “traffic, traffic” audible alert. When they’re dangerously close, that red diamond starts flashing and you get another audible alert, “traffic, traffic, (climb or descend)”.
I guess I was slightly off.
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1:09 The captions was 133.75?
I find them so cute lol
Swiss 64H Maintain 9 thousand... love this video... Awesome
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What is the background music for? It was so intrusive that it actually stopped me watching what I'm sure would have been a very interesting video.
8:59 can someone clarify what the tower was instructing the pilots to do? What does tower mean when he says "hold short of your runway"? I, like the first officer, at first interpreted it as a LAHSO instruction to hold short of runway 12.
I was wondering is it possible to program the Flight Computer with a Land Program and a Takeoff Program that will automatically set the flaps and bring down the landing gear turn on the Fasten Seatbelt Sign, Switch Off the IFE and switch the IFE to the Airshow Map and play the automated arrival announcements for the designated airport or Arrival Video if available and then switch on the Front Camera for passengers to see the landing or takeoff?
How do you Modify the Flight Computer to work with all systems?
They were cleared for the RNAV and tried to fly the visual. Seems like this was lost in translation. You can’t deviate from the published procedure unless cleared for the visual specifically.
The music adds NOTHING, only distracts and takes away realism.
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I think that great people and great professional workers born from the knowledge of their mistakes. When the captain makes his point "a little bit chaotic" he knows that they've made some little mistakes. He grows up some more and she will grow as well. Great job and great landing though
Excellent teamwork
Anybody else notice the smaller plane that was flying below them at 1:01 ?? Or was it just me
Air traffics are happening in Miami because of the Bermuda Triangle..Am I right?
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Very good land
9:56 now there's no need for that!
Where is the glasses?
That TCAS warning really scared her. It seemed like it caught the first officer off guard. Great job to maintain composure after the warning though. Can tell she was really well trained.
why u stealing comments lol
Can we all just agree to let Germanic people run operations like airlines?
Great video!🙂Thanks
Really good team
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amazing video!!
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Ein tolles Video! Vor allem die junge Dame war sehr nett und beeindruckte. Happy landings und blue skies!
0:47
I’ve seen this capt in some other video
Engine shutdown followed by chocolate?
Why didn't he auto land I mean use autopilot to land like we all do your job is a joke due to computer's
Oh great, a know nothing showing how ignorant he is.
@@peteconrad2077 I have IVR landed a 777 before so how
@@worldtravel9967 what do you mean “IVR landed a 777”?
Is it LX64 or LX65?
She is using both..., but it seems everybody can deal with it :)
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Magnifique vidéo merci 👏