Hey everyone! Hope you liked the minisode! Make sure to check out RobPlays video on Disney’s partnership with Burger King today! ruclips.net/video/HvrenscuS2s/видео.html We’ll be back with Part 4 of the Jim Henson series next. Have a great day!
Makes sense if they both did not keep in touch much after the war, which sounds likely. The letter to Disney thus would have a "hi remember me from school long time ago" feel to it.
@@axelpatrickb.pingol3228 The letter never made it to Walt's desk though, if it did then Walt would've probably reached out to Ray who was still just starting his franchise. Also why would Walt want to partner up with a then-small restaurant from 40 miles away in bumfuck San Bernardino when he was trying to attract the biggest corporations of the time for sponsorships to help open the world's biggest theme park at the time.
@@travisboutilier2220 most of them were pull-back-and-release vehicles. I remember there being the submarine, the chow wagon, the big drill, and a few others. The two toys I had were Kida on one of the fish shaped atlantian fighter plane things and a keyring shaped like one of the power crystals.
That stranger danger McDonald's commercial was probably dangerous in and of itself, since it clearly attempts to demonstrate a hypothetical scenario in which it WOULD BE somehow okay for small child to accept food from a strange man who claims to be the real Ronald McDonald. And hey, even if it WAS the real Ronald McDonald, he can't take that kid to McDonald's. In fact, he EXTRA can't take that kid to McDonald's if he's the actual Ronald McDonald.
Funny now, but back then it was huge. Like Avatar, it wasn't about the recycled stolen story, it was about the graphics. Disney's first real attempt at a CGI film without the help of Pixar. And when Animal Kingdom opened in 1998, there really wasn't that many attractions. Kilimanjaro Safari, and Countdown to Extinction were the major E ticket rides. Of course, it was more extreme, and more of the ride worked, but it was still a major hit, even after the film flopped. Guests couldn't just RUclips ride through of DL's Indiana Jones to compare which was better. This was Star Tours/Body Wars on crack! Now it's just a shakey journey through darkness. Then again, people are still big fans for Space Mountain. Perhaps this was why Disney did what they could with the rest of Dinoland USA. They needed something other than the boneyard. And what better way to make Dinosaur the ride appear great again, than to put it next to some mediocre carnival rides?
Whoa! This episode was a real WHOPPER! I can't believe Croc & Disney met all those years ago. Thats insane to me. One of those strange bits of coincidence that proves how strange life is.
There's some debate on whether it's true that they met all those years ago. However it's one of those things where you can kind of get away with "printing the myth" because Disney/McDonald's connection gives you nice sort of poetic symmetry in having those two major architects of American capitalism in the 20th Century meet each other years before they would make their mark on the commerce of the country. It's insane if it is true thoufg.
"The promotional would annoy librarians of all people as players would call up their local information centers with Disney trivia questions." Honestly, as a librarian, I can say a number of us have issues with Disney already.
Adam Hoffman As a fellow librarian, I can’t help but wonder what would win out: annoyance towards Disney or our desperation to feel needed for reference questions.
@@starsparkle78 Probably because of the way Disney has altered both fiction and actual history to add some drama and make their movies more family friendly
My dad worked at McDonalds in the late 90s and early 00s. We went to Disneyland in that same time range, and because he was a McDonalds employee we were able to enter a special room at the Countdown to Extinction area set aside for said employees. It was wonderfully air conditioned, they had soda machines you could drink from as much as you want, and when you were done relaxing you were taken directly to the front of the line for the ride itself. It was pretty nice, and basically the only thing I actually remember from that day at the park.
Ack! You left out the most interesting artifact left over from the partnership: In the queue for Dinosaur, there are a number of pipes running along the ceiling. Three of them-red, yellow, and white-are labeled with a series of chemical compounds and Linnaean scientific names. They refer to the ingredients of ketchup, mustard, and mayonnaise, respectively.
Insane how Michael Eisner was able to save Disney from the brink, bring in large revenue streams like this partnership with McDonald's, open entire parks and iconic rides BUT also make some of the worst more boneheaded decisions possible.
I knew you’d start by mentioning their meeting in the war. It’s so crazy to me that two boys went to fight for their countries and then became gigantic business men. History can be fascinating like that.
As someone who was living in a college dorm full of white boy STEM majors at the time, the phrase "szechuan sauce" gives me oddly specific war flashback
Jeez what was with The Red Cross volunteers in Italy. Walt Disney served alongside both writer Ernest Hemingway and Ray Kroch? That's three of the most influential men in modern American culture all in the same place right before they would start their careers
I will never be able to forget that McDonald's and Disney had a partnership. It was evening in Frontierland, the sky had turned orange with the sunset and the pathway lights began humming as they came to illuminating life. My family was on our way to ride Big Thunder Mountain one last time for the day when I heard a voice. "Is that a ********* Micky D's?" A middle-age man was standing by a covered-wagon-shaped food cart with boards over its windows and the iconic golden arches emblazoned above the vacant counter. "It's a ********* Micky D's," he stated as he walked away, shaking his head.
From the thumbnail, I thought it was going to be about how Eisner got miffed at some McDonald's employee and started his own chain of mouse shaped burgers and nuggets
This episode was interesting as always :) * Thank you for sharing that bit of trivia about these two giants crossing paths early. Life works in mysterious ways. * That musical segue into the McDonald's jingle was clever. Props for that :) * I never imagined Ronald McDonald could look even creepier than his regular iconic image... but him in that early commercial plying a child with burgers is amazing/awful. * I have strong memories of using that puppet from the movie Dinosaur to bite my brother. * Countdown to Extinction: Sponsored by McDonald's is unintentional surrealist alt-lit. * 14:09 all of these park attractions feel so much more organic (and appetizing) without the branding.
3:54 *the kid shakes his left hand with Ronald’s right hand* , causing that incredibly awkward *failed hesitating handshake* where one person just grabs to other person’s wrist and flings it around to try and salvage the hen situation. Dear god it’s painful to see and experience
Former Disney employee, but during my orientation, they mentioned this in some good detail, and told us that there were fry carts on MainStreet USA at one point. (They also unofficially told us the partnership ended because of public perception.)
Nostalgia is such a strange thing, man. Watching this video made me sad for the days when happy meals and other competing brands offered COOL toys with their meals, instead of just like a sticker like they do now. Some of my favorite childhood toys came from McDonald’s or Burger King. But then I feel weird, because I’m feeling sad and nostalgic for a marketing ploy designed specifically to get screaming rowdy kids to demand their parents take them to McDonald’s and feed them garbage. I remember always asking my mom for McDonald’s whenever we drove anywhere! So I guess what I’m missing isn’t the era, because it sucked, or the marketing tactic, because it sucked. I’m really just missing being a kid and not KNOWING that I was being manipulated. So in a sense I’m realizing that most of my nostalgia was corporately manufactured, and all I’m really missing is the time when I couldn’t understand what that- HOLY SHIT 8:32 I HAD THAT BAMBI I STILL HAVE IT SOMEWHERE
It's why so much of nostalgia nowadays like "omg the old school pizza hut/taco bell/ etc" or nostalgia for toys and products like Transformers and Power Rangers, it's all materialistic when you grow up and take a step back. You're all nostalgic for PRODUCTS and CORPORATIONS. Adults back then had so much disdain for 90s product placement as today's adults do with popular youtube and netflix figures like cocomelon and ryan's world garnering so much money with their merchandise. It's also why I feel fatigued with the oversaturation of collectible funko pops. Times weren't simple back then and it certainly isn't any better now.
@kristian rikardsen That reminds me that Burger King used to have Shrek toys. We need a part 2 to this minisode about the rivalry between McDisney and BurgerWorks!
3:40 Son: "Stranger Danger! Stranger Danger!" Father: "Don't worry son, they were different times (immediately stares into the void while repressed memories of Ronald come flooding back)." Bada-ba-ba-ba.
I remember the Westward Ho fries. Somehow, they tasted better than regular McDonald's fries and it was what I always wanted when my parents asked if I wanted a snack while at Disneyland! I wish they'd bring them back, though I'd prefer a cheaper pass so I could actually go to Disneyland in the first place lol
What? Szechuan sauce? Man that's crazy I had NO IDEA that McDonalds sold that. I bet it tasted really good. Wish they'd bring it back. I bet that wouldn't cause mass chaos or anything.
Defunctland: McDonalds started its collab with Disney with Splash Mountain in 1989. Roger Rabbit’s McDonalds campaign, a year earlier: *Am I a joke to you?!*
There were Happy meals for Bambi and Oliver & Company. There was also a Who Framed Roger Rabbit tie-in. Then there was a Cinderella Jaq and Gus ornament set that was available for Christmas in the mid to late 1980’s. This was all before Splash Mountain and The Little Mermaid.
0:00 Could you imagine being 15 years old, just hanging out with your boys, learning to affix bayonets and survive mustard gas, and looking over at one of your battle buddies, who is also still a legal child, and saying "Hey, do you wanna rule the world?" And have them reply "Yes" AND THEN FUCKING DOING IT?!?!
This is definitely one of my favourite channels as it marries my love of Disney and pop culture with my love of history and learning new things. I always marvel at how much history and amazing content is in each of these videos! Better, more entertaining, and more informative than most commercial documentaries. Keep it up!
It's so weird knowing that these companies were together for a relatively short amount of time when that time encompassed basically your entire childhood and provided so many memories.
Countdown to Extinction: Sponsored by McDonald’s. You know, sometimes there’s false advertising, and then sometimes there’s....the exact polar opposite.
at disneyland there was one time as a kid where my dad and i stood by the final drop for splash mountain. we were waiting for my mom and my grandparents to be done with the ride. while we were waiting, my dad brought up the idea to get some mcdonalds fries to snack on; which we got from the same food cart at 12:30 in the video. it was super good tbh :) so ive always had this fond memory about eating mcdonalds fries with my dad and watching splash mountain run lmao
Not to mention that he ate multiple meals there every day and super sized them all. No one does this. You can take your kid to McDonalds once a week, and let them play out the calories from the meal at their playplace, and they won't become overweight. It may not be healthy, but it won't make your overweight.
@@raphaelmarquez9650 Right, besides fast, cheap hot food is something I wouldn't get for that price without mcdonalds. Kinda need it for my overworked broke ass :/
I could be wrong, but I think I read that the execs at McDonald's didn't like that they were contractually obligated to market duds such as Treasure Planet, Atlantis: The Lost Empire, and even Home on the Range. (This was that period where Disney was in a bit of a 'dark age' when it came to their animated films)
"Disney was looking for a way to advertise their new attraction." What? You mean that totally radical hip-hop version of Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah that featured in your Okefenokee video didn't have everyone buying out tickets faster than they could print them? I'm shocked!
I love that a 'minisode' on your channel is what a lot of other channels would consider a longer length video. I truly don't know or remember how or why your videos first got recommended to me. Before your channel, I watched nothing about theme parks, carnivals, rides, anything like that. (obviously, your channel is so much more than just theme park history and related topics now) However, I'm glad the RUclips algorithm decided (knew? yikes... scary!?) that I would enjoy your content. One of my favourite channels on RUclips, and this is just another example of your excellent, quality content. Please don't ever stop.
Great vid as always Kev. Could you do a video on The history of Legoland Orlando? I think it would be very interesting. It used to be Cypress Gardens before it was Legoland
3:42 - Sooo many thoughts here: 1. Damn RIGHT you shouldn't talk to that stranger, Billy! 2. That's Willard Scott. The same Willard Scott who'd do the weather on NBC's Today Show and wish Happy Birthday to centenarians. 3. I don't care who that is, a mop wig and cup for a nose is enough to leave me looking for an unmarked white van.
Tiny beginning domino: The Red Cross stages humanitarian aid in WWI Italy Gigantic last domino: A teenager quotes Rick and Morty while jumping up and down on a McDonalds counter
I'd just like to say I find it incredibly ironic that Ray worked for the Red Cross and then went on to run one of the biggest threats to American health ever.
3:50 "Very wise of ya mom, Georgie, very wise indeed. I, Georgie, am Ronald McDonald, the hamburger happy clown, you are Georgie. So now we know each otha."
Man did seeing all those happy meal toys bring me right back to childhood, lol. I was lucky and had the entire Tarzan set, and they were all like puzzle pieces that all fit together in a circle to look like a jungle, or something. Also the Hercules plates. Thanks for the trip down memory lane!
While I know his primary motivation was profit, the detail of Ray Kroc trying to get in touch with Disney, an old friend from the war, only for the letter to apparently never even reach the man, did make me a little sad.
Excuse me I had several of the Hercules plates McDonald’s did Back in the day. The Hercules, The Pegasus, and the Zeus. One of them mentioned meat and potatoes
Meat and potatoes, huh? What a clever yet subtle McDonald's reference. I still have a 101 Dalmatians Christmas ornament from McDonald's that I bring out every year. I don't typically put it on our Christmas tree, however, because I don't know if it has a loop for attaching a hanger. I typically put it on a coffee table or something like that.
Within the first 5 seconds of every Defunctland video, I click the like button. That’s when you know it’s already going to be an incredible and informative video. (I love the Disney-McDonalds music transition, that’s going to be my ringtone)
Two giant family companies that have personal history, that I had no idea about! It's great hearing how the ties between the powerhouses created opportunities and strategies. Another informative and entertaining video. Keep it up!
@@dylanb2990 basically, but it was titled as a "theme park". Not a ton about it online, but it existed during the last half of the 80s. And it was Six Flags owned and operated. Kinda like an Epcot type. I found a cool mug at Goodwill with SixFlags PowerPlant logo also w/price tag still on bottom. Tag had S.F.P.P. just as plus price
That way you said 'Doug's first movie' lol 12:46 oh! I remember that one! I remember seeing an article of Disney and McDonalds splitting up but 'staying friends' which I thought was nice.
Hey everyone! Hope you liked the minisode!
Make sure to check out RobPlays video on Disney’s partnership with Burger King today! ruclips.net/video/HvrenscuS2s/видео.html
We’ll be back with Part 4 of the Jim Henson series next. Have a great day!
Defunctlandtell kevin that i love him and hope he is having a great day
When exactly will part 4 be out
Just went to the McDonald’s at Disney world last week. It was the saddest place on the whole property.
Your Jim Henson series is so good! Thank you!
Kevin, one day, please do either that Cedar Point or Barney idea after the series. Please?
Title about McDonald's and Disney.
Intro: "In 1918, the world was at war"
😂
Not in december though
It's practically a self-fulfilling prophecy at this point.
The war was actually the backstory of the McDonald's franchise.
@IHHOS: They know. It's just a running gag that Perjurer would go back to the dawn of man if he felt it was needed for the proper context.
No Disney Defunctland episode is complete without Michael Eisner doing or saying something stupid
He's the Dio of Defunctland.
"You thought this was a mistake Catsenburg made, but it was I, Micheal Eisner."
me: where did they go wrong
Eisner *is mentioned*
me: ahhhhh okay
At this point, I'm starting to think he chooses his topics based on if Eisner is involved. Maybe it's a crush?
He is Defucntland's Hydra. Just when you think he finally been cut off, two more of him takes its place.
Mike is a fucking legend and that's just fax
"Countdown to Extinction Sponsored By McDonalds"
If there was ever a more on-the-nose title, I have yet to hear it.
I almost passed out from laughter when I realized the pure irony of that title...
They had to have known... If not, then LMAO!
Feels like the title of a newscast scene you’d see in a satirical cyberpunk disaster movie.
sounds like skit on the daily show.
Also the name of a really good Megadeth album.
I wish Mcdonald's would really go extinct.
"You really are Ronald!"
*_And thus, the little boy was never seen or heard from again._*
He floats down Here. They all float.
Classic 😂
Boy:my mom told me I shouldn't talk to strangers
me:so you should he looks creepy
He’s just beyond the golden arches
At least Ronald didn't drag the boy into the sewers.
Unironic thanks for repeating "Countdown to Extinction: Sponsored by McDonald's™". I would have glazed right over that without truly appreciating it.
go look at the art featured during that it’s so good too
Futurama: This dream brought to you by Light Speed Briefs!
I always like how Kevin is always so focused with the narration, but whenever Michael Eisner's dumb sense of humor shows up, he always cracks a little
I have to say I was really not expecting the whole them knowing eachother during war times thing to go literally no where
Makes sense if they both did not keep in touch much after the war, which sounds likely. The letter to Disney thus would have a "hi remember me from school long time ago" feel to it.
The fact that Ray and Walt actually met was brand new to me, funnily enough
@scottbaino with the lonely life I have, I'll take what I can get
@scottbaino This is Walt Disney we're talking about, the guy who NEVER forgets a single name and face.
@@axelpatrickb.pingol3228 The letter never made it to Walt's desk though, if it did then Walt would've probably reached out to Ray who was still just starting his franchise. Also why would Walt want to partner up with a then-small restaurant from 40 miles away in bumfuck San Bernardino when he was trying to attract the biggest corporations of the time for sponsorships to help open the world's biggest theme park at the time.
“Countdown to Extinction: Sponsored by McDonald’s”
Please put that on a shirt!
McDonald's promise to you! LOL
yeah, this definitely has promise.
10/10 would buy it, and I never buy merch!
The McDisney burger 😂
I'm pretty sure that's a lawsuit just waiting to happen
When you started naming the all the McDonald’s toys I could see my life flashing back before my eyes lol
Wish i could see the ones for atlantis the lost empire
@@travisboutilier2220 I had some of them. I was *big* into Atlantis. Kida is still my fave Disney Princess
@@athena8794 What kind are their? i have watched it many times.
@@travisboutilier2220 most of them were pull-back-and-release vehicles. I remember there being the submarine, the chow wagon, the big drill, and a few others. The two toys I had were Kida on one of the fish shaped atlantian fighter plane things and a keyring shaped like one of the power crystals.
@@athena8794 Those sound quite cool. i was only four when it came out.
That stranger danger McDonald's commercial was probably dangerous in and of itself, since it clearly attempts to demonstrate a hypothetical scenario in which it WOULD BE somehow okay for small child to accept food from a strange man who claims to be the real Ronald McDonald. And hey, even if it WAS the real Ronald McDonald, he can't take that kid to McDonald's. In fact, he EXTRA can't take that kid to McDonald's if he's the actual Ronald McDonald.
Me: wow I should probably do some chores around the house
Defunctland: H a m b u r g e r
Me: fair point
Ismael Lovera fair enough
I am cleaning kitchen/cooking while watching this on my tablet. :p
Remember kids, don't talk to stranger unless they give you free burgers then they're your friend.
You're throwing money away otherwise
Look if a stranger has the power to effectively duplicate matter through time manipulation, I ain't about to piss him off.
@@arootubethat is true with almost any superpower to be honest.
The key to making a Defunctland video is always to start the video at least four decades prior to the topic at hand
The Key to Making a Defunctland Video! "In 1834, William George Horner invented the zoetrope..."
There's always background information in our awesome videos!
Key no. 2: Michael Eisner screwing something up
Now the Dillon Family joke in the FastPass episode of Defunctland makes perfect sense to me.
"Szechuan Sauce"
*Aw shit, here we go again.*
Those were dark times
A distant ree could be heard echoing across horizon.
*WUBBA LUBBA DUB DUB*
I still have a Szechuan Sauce packet sitting in my closet. I'm planning to sell it on an ebay auction someday.
Guys, mulan is getting remade, there might be a chance of this BS coming back.
That marimba opening music transitioning from the Disney theme to the McD theme was genius.
This episode is well-timed to coincide with my disappointment that they did not wheel the old conestoga fry wagon into Star Wars Land
Who's the scamp that nearly bankrupt Disney
It's Michael! Michael! Michael Eisner!
HornedCrusader
Actually it’s Iger with his 70 billion dollar purchase of fox.
@@hornedcrusader9485 Who poked out his brothers eye? It's Micheal, it's Michael!
Countdown to Extinction
Sponsored by McDonalds
Whoever pitched that must've really hated McDonalds
Funny now, but back then it was huge. Like Avatar, it wasn't about the recycled stolen story, it was about the graphics. Disney's first real attempt at a CGI film without the help of Pixar. And when Animal Kingdom opened in 1998, there really wasn't that many attractions. Kilimanjaro Safari, and Countdown to Extinction were the major E ticket rides. Of course, it was more extreme, and more of the ride worked, but it was still a major hit, even after the film flopped. Guests couldn't just RUclips ride through of DL's Indiana Jones to compare which was better. This was Star Tours/Body Wars on crack! Now it's just a shakey journey through darkness. Then again, people are still big fans for Space Mountain. Perhaps this was why Disney did what they could with the rest of Dinoland USA. They needed something other than the boneyard. And what better way to make Dinosaur the ride appear great again, than to put it next to some mediocre carnival rides?
Whoa! This episode was a real WHOPPER! I can't believe Croc & Disney met all those years ago. Thats insane to me. One of those strange bits of coincidence that proves how strange life is.
Kroc, not Croc. Although if you read about his business practices, he turned out to be quite a crock as well.
There's some debate on whether it's true that they met all those years ago. However it's one of those things where you can kind of get away with "printing the myth" because Disney/McDonald's connection gives you nice sort of poetic symmetry in having those two major architects of American capitalism in the 20th Century meet each other years before they would make their mark on the commerce of the country.
It's insane if it is true thoufg.
Were you in the video? 10:37?
Whopper is from Hungry Jack's not McDonalds.
@@Sirenhound You clearly aren't American
"The promotional would annoy librarians of all people as players would call up their local information centers with Disney trivia questions."
Honestly, as a librarian, I can say a number of us have issues with Disney already.
Adam Hoffman As a fellow librarian, I can’t help but wonder what would win out: annoyance towards Disney or our desperation to feel needed for reference questions.
why do librarians have problems with Disney?
@@starsparkle78 Probably because of the way Disney has altered both fiction and actual history to add some drama and make their movies more family friendly
@@ryanahr2267 *cough cough* The Fox and the Hound.
I'm unironically mad about the Disney adaptation, as a fan of the original novel.
@@wyattsteel411I feel the same way about Bambi.
My dad worked at McDonalds in the late 90s and early 00s. We went to Disneyland in that same time range, and because he was a McDonalds employee we were able to enter a special room at the Countdown to Extinction area set aside for said employees. It was wonderfully air conditioned, they had soda machines you could drink from as much as you want, and when you were done relaxing you were taken directly to the front of the line for the ride itself. It was pretty nice, and basically the only thing I actually remember from that day at the park.
Me: oh yay a new Defunctland!
Kevin: war.....war never changes....
Lol that's legit the Intro.
Nor does Michael Eisner
I’m just gonna say it...
McDisney sounds like an absolutely horrible ship name
And you are now not allowed to give the internet any more ideas
Kevin Hanson that’s not your decision to make.
*THE COUNCIL WILL DECIDE HIS FATE*
No, its WaltKroc..
I’m dead
Why did my brain think that was a ship between Paul McCartney and Walt Disney
Ack! You left out the most interesting artifact left over from the partnership: In the queue for Dinosaur, there are a number of pipes running along the ceiling. Three of them-red, yellow, and white-are labeled with a series of chemical compounds and Linnaean scientific names.
They refer to the ingredients of ketchup, mustard, and mayonnaise, respectively.
That's actually really good.
I always wondered why those pipes looked that way.
I work at wdw and it makes me chuckle every time
Aye Homestar Runner!
Someone was really proud to have gotten that one approved
The amount of contempt in his voice when he says "dougs 1st movie" is palpable.
I think nostalgia critic feels the same way
'they promoted a special seczchuan sauce"
*gets war flashbacks* dude, you gotta warn a brother before you say stuff like that.
Oh no
no this is disney not warner brothers
That old Ronald McDonald design is going to be in my nightmares forever
Ronald McDonald in general is serious nightmare material. Seriously, he alone is enough to keep me away from McDonald's most of the time.
The creepy clown that pulls burgers out of his dick? You can trust him don’t worry
@@lanceturley7745 Pennywise wishes he could kill as many people as Ronald McDonald
@@EssexAggiegrad2011 he's the clown that haunts Pennywise's nightmares
@@andrewduong2740 Yup
:video about anything:
Kevin: “In the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth...”
I thought he only does non-fictitious subjects?
Typical asshole atheist
@@WombatLoveAffair People can have their own beliefs, Lmao.
Confuseicorn He knows. People are just tired of ultra atheists and ultra religious people being dicks to anyone who disagrees with them.
@@Natlanivstheworld Tell that to Lensman, not to Slam.
The Mouse and The Clown, two powerful entities combined to conquer the hearts and stomachs of men.
...with both originally having horrifying costumes for mascots in their mission to do so...
"A powerful clown, named Donald Ronald McDonald."
@@benabramowitz18 ONALD
And poison them.
Unlike Disney which dipped in quality as of recently McDonald's was never good.
Insane how Michael Eisner was able to save Disney from the brink, bring in large revenue streams like this partnership with McDonald's, open entire parks and iconic rides BUT also make some of the worst more boneheaded decisions possible.
Did you see it turn pink as he was unzipping it?😅
@@jimmyboy7817ayo what 🤨
I knew you’d start by mentioning their meeting in the war. It’s so crazy to me that two boys went to fight for their countries and then became gigantic business men.
History can be fascinating like that.
What if World War 1 didn't happen?
@@izaacreatherishere wrong channel bud, I think you’re looking for @alternatehistoryhub
*EVERYONE*: Endgame is the most ambitious crossover in history!
*ME*: Idk, A water ride at Disney land and McDonalds collabbed one time.
Well, eisner did say that the partnership was, the most ambitious crossover of family brands.
That szechuan sauce bit just about gave me a heart attack until you said Mulan
I WANT THAT MULAN MCNUGGETS SAUCE, MORTY!
As someone who was living in a college dorm full of white boy STEM majors at the time, the phrase "szechuan sauce" gives me oddly specific war flashback
Oh no not again!
... wubba lubba dub dub
We're gonna get schwifty in medieval China.
Jeez what was with The Red Cross volunteers in Italy. Walt Disney served alongside both writer Ernest Hemingway and Ray Kroch? That's three of the most influential men in modern American culture all in the same place right before they would start their careers
Well Hemingway was the Spanish Civil War in the 30s
That’s not even the most coincidental meetings in history.
And to think, my 13yo grandfather was stationed on a boat in the Pacific. We could've been rich and famous, but he had to fight the Japanese instead!
@@UmmYeahOk McDonald's Splash Mountain, brought to you by Hemingway
I would pay for someone to create a story of those three hanging put together.
I will never be able to forget that McDonald's and Disney had a partnership.
It was evening in Frontierland, the sky had turned orange with the sunset and the pathway lights began humming as they came to illuminating life. My family was on our way to ride Big Thunder Mountain one last time for the day when I heard a voice.
"Is that a ********* Micky D's?"
A middle-age man was standing by a covered-wagon-shaped food cart with boards over its windows and the iconic golden arches emblazoned above the vacant counter.
"It's a ********* Micky D's," he stated as he walked away, shaking his head.
I cant decide if he was excited about the f****** McDonalds or upset 😂
@@emmylightner3688 He seemed upset and confused XD
From the thumbnail, I thought it was going to be about how Eisner got miffed at some McDonald's employee and started his own chain of mouse shaped burgers and nuggets
You should do more food videos and call the series somthing like DefunctBrand
Still loved this minisode
Hey, I know a little bit about this
“In 1918-“
Lol never mind
Small fuckin world right? 😆
This episode was interesting as always :)
* Thank you for sharing that bit of trivia about these two giants crossing paths early. Life works in mysterious ways.
* That musical segue into the McDonald's jingle was clever. Props for that :)
* I never imagined Ronald McDonald could look even creepier than his regular iconic image... but him in that early commercial plying a child with burgers is amazing/awful.
* I have strong memories of using that puppet from the movie Dinosaur to bite my brother.
* Countdown to Extinction: Sponsored by McDonald's is unintentional surrealist alt-lit.
* 14:09 all of these park attractions feel so much more organic (and appetizing) without the branding.
"Change from Jabba The Hutt to Pizza the Hutt"
**Mel Brooks has entered the chat**
TheAjCalvillo Okay I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought that!
Merchandising! Merchandising!
@@theangryholmesian4556 *ahem * MOICHANDIZING! MOICHANDIZING!
@@amphioxusanniversary Where the *real* money from the picture is made!
3:54 *the kid shakes his left hand with Ronald’s right hand* , causing that incredibly awkward *failed hesitating handshake* where one person just grabs to other person’s wrist and flings it around to try and salvage the hen situation. Dear god it’s painful to see and experience
countdown to extinction sponsored by McDonald's
say that 5 times in a row
I tried, but I couldn't stop laughing
Radman The Lucario I barley did it XD
4:08 that kid's gonna end up face down in a ditch before long
Enjoyed the episode, but I'm waiting on fraggle rock!
Former Disney employee, but during my orientation, they mentioned this in some good detail, and told us that there were fry carts on MainStreet USA at one point. (They also unofficially told us the partnership ended because of public perception.)
Nostalgia is such a strange thing, man. Watching this video made me sad for the days when happy meals and other competing brands offered COOL toys with their meals, instead of just like a sticker like they do now. Some of my favorite childhood toys came from McDonald’s or Burger King. But then I feel weird, because I’m feeling sad and nostalgic for a marketing ploy designed specifically to get screaming rowdy kids to demand their parents take them to McDonald’s and feed them garbage. I remember always asking my mom for McDonald’s whenever we drove anywhere! So I guess what I’m missing isn’t the era, because it sucked, or the marketing tactic, because it sucked. I’m really just missing being a kid and not KNOWING that I was being manipulated. So in a sense I’m realizing that most of my nostalgia was corporately manufactured, and all I’m really missing is the time when I couldn’t understand what that- HOLY SHIT 8:32 I HAD THAT BAMBI I STILL HAVE IT SOMEWHERE
It's why so much of nostalgia nowadays like "omg the old school pizza hut/taco bell/ etc" or nostalgia for toys and products like Transformers and Power Rangers,
it's all materialistic when you grow up and take a step back. You're all nostalgic for PRODUCTS and CORPORATIONS. Adults back then had so much disdain for 90s product placement as today's adults do with popular youtube and netflix figures like cocomelon and ryan's world garnering so much money with their merchandise.
It's also why I feel fatigued with the oversaturation of collectible funko pops. Times weren't simple back then and it certainly isn't any better now.
No one:
Old Ronald McDonald: HEY KID WANNA HAMBURGER MMMM?
Willard Scott! MY GUY!
oooOOokey i’ll like a little bit of h-
(E a t)
Jendhajnsgzjjqhduckwn
Why didn't you eat your Big Mac?
I was waiting for the Michael Eisner does something stupid and I was not let down.
It's not like there was a better pun available.
I was like "this is a Michael Eisner does something stupid episode".
@kristian rikardsen That reminds me that Burger King used to have Shrek toys. We need a part 2 to this minisode about the rivalry between McDisney and BurgerWorks!
3:40
Son: "Stranger Danger! Stranger Danger!"
Father: "Don't worry son, they were different times (immediately stares into the void while repressed memories of Ronald come flooding back)."
Bada-ba-ba-ba.
Plot twist: The father was the kid in the commercial
Love the slight voice inflection on “Doug’s First Movie”
"Doug had a movie, remember when that happened? just reminding you that that was a thing that happened"
aceshighdueceslow also love Nostalgia Critic’s review on it. You should check it out.
hardly 'slight' ....that was an epic burial if there ever was one!
I remember the Westward Ho fries. Somehow, they tasted better than regular McDonald's fries and it was what I always wanted when my parents asked if I wanted a snack while at Disneyland! I wish they'd bring them back, though I'd prefer a cheaper pass so I could actually go to Disneyland in the first place lol
I was half expecting Ronald to offer that kid a paper boat!
What? Szechuan sauce? Man that's crazy I had NO IDEA that McDonalds sold that. I bet it tasted really good. Wish they'd bring it back. I bet that wouldn't cause mass chaos or anything.
I know you are joking, but I was at a store that day not knowing what was going on.
It was not pretty!
I still have my rerelease container of it. Like all those McDonalds Beanie Babies I have, they're gonna make me RICH!!!
@@KidSnivy69 It was hell
@@tigerclaw34 bad day?
@@tigerclaw34 I'm a month behind but I love your statement. Hahaha
A new Defunctland video? And one involving Disney and McDonald’s?
Now this is an awesome birthday present!
Happy birthday my dude!
Happy birthday
Happy birthday, feller!
Defunctland:
McDonalds started its collab with Disney with Splash Mountain in 1989.
Roger Rabbit’s McDonalds campaign, a year earlier:
*Am I a joke to you?!*
There were Happy meals for Bambi and Oliver & Company. There was also a Who Framed Roger Rabbit tie-in. Then there was a Cinderella Jaq and Gus ornament set that was available for Christmas in the mid to late 1980’s. This was all before Splash Mountain and The Little Mermaid.
Or alternatively: *How dare you!*
Defunctland is literally my history class 😌
0:00 Could you imagine being 15 years old, just hanging out with your boys, learning to affix bayonets and survive mustard gas, and looking over at one of your battle buddies, who is also still a legal child, and saying "Hey, do you wanna rule the world?" And have them reply "Yes" AND THEN FUCKING DOING IT?!?!
This is definitely one of my favourite channels as it marries my love of Disney and pop culture with my love of history and learning new things. I always marvel at how much history and amazing content is in each of these videos! Better, more entertaining, and more informative than most commercial documentaries. Keep it up!
It took me far longer than I would like to admit to figure out this had nothing to do with Jim Henson
Really? You mention "Pizza the Hutt" but don't use a clip from Spaceballs? Opportunity majorly missed there
Yeah especially the scene when he ate himself
It's so weird knowing that these companies were together for a relatively short amount of time when that time encompassed basically your entire childhood and provided so many memories.
"I'm not supposed to talk to strangers, mister."
Oh no. I no, no nooo. Run, Georgie. Run.
I think it's fairly obvious where Stephen King got the inspiration for that scene from.
Ronald is scarier than pennywise. So yeah. It’s definitely true.
40 seconds into the video and I'm reminded why I love this channel so much
Countdown to Extinction: Sponsored by McDonald’s.
You know, sometimes there’s false advertising, and then sometimes there’s....the exact polar opposite.
at disneyland there was one time as a kid where my dad and i stood by the final drop for splash mountain. we were waiting for my mom and my grandparents to be done with the ride. while we were waiting, my dad brought up the idea to get some mcdonalds fries to snack on; which we got from the same food cart at 12:30 in the video. it was super good tbh :) so ive always had this fond memory about eating mcdonalds fries with my dad and watching splash mountain run lmao
seeing those "Incredibles" toys really brings me back to my childhood
Kevin, you just opened a forbidden Pandora’s Box by mentioning the Szechuan Sauce
"McDonalds could revolutionize the way Americans eat"
*Is also infamous for the obesity problems and for Super Size Me*
Nowadays, Super Size Me is called into question after failed attempts on duplicating the same results the documentary shared.
Not to mention that he ate multiple meals there every day and super sized them all. No one does this. You can take your kid to McDonalds once a week, and let them play out the calories from the meal at their playplace, and they won't become overweight. It may not be healthy, but it won't make your overweight.
@@UmmYeahOk Hence my favorite rebuttal to the movie: "No shit, Spurlock."
@@raphaelmarquez9650 Right, besides fast, cheap hot food is something I wouldn't get for that price without mcdonalds. Kinda need it for my overworked broke ass :/
@@UmmYeahOk AND DONT FORGET HE WAS ON A VEGETARIAN DIET PREVIOUSLY
“Countdown to Extinction: Sponsored by McDonalds”
This really says a lot about our society 🤔
I could be wrong, but I think I read that the execs at McDonald's didn't like that they were contractually obligated to market duds such as Treasure Planet, Atlantis: The Lost Empire, and even Home on the Range. (This was that period where Disney was in a bit of a 'dark age' when it came to their animated films)
"Disney was looking for a way to advertise their new attraction."
What? You mean that totally radical hip-hop version of Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah that featured in your Okefenokee video didn't have everyone buying out tickets faster than they could print them? I'm shocked!
Funnily enough, he actually downplayed how weird the advertising was.
I love that a 'minisode' on your channel is what a lot of other channels would consider a longer length video. I truly don't know or remember how or why your videos first got recommended to me. Before your channel, I watched nothing about theme parks, carnivals, rides, anything like that. (obviously, your channel is so much more than just theme park history and related topics now) However, I'm glad the RUclips algorithm decided (knew? yikes... scary!?) that I would enjoy your content. One of my favourite channels on RUclips, and this is just another example of your excellent, quality content.
Please don't ever stop.
Great vid as always Kev. Could you do a video on The history of Legoland Orlando? I think it would be very interesting. It used to be Cypress Gardens before it was Legoland
They still have part of it in the park
Preston Heit i know
Ah yes, Countdown to _Extinction._
_SPONSORED BY_ *_MCDONALDS._*
Me: ruclips.net/video/iimTHhCRjG8/видео.html
3:42 - Sooo many thoughts here:
1. Damn RIGHT you shouldn't talk to that stranger, Billy!
2. That's Willard Scott. The same Willard Scott who'd do the weather on NBC's Today Show and wish Happy Birthday to centenarians.
3. I don't care who that is, a mop wig and cup for a nose is enough to leave me looking for an unmarked white van.
11:34 I dunno man, have you ever heard of "Colorado Adventure - The Michael Jackson Thrill Ride"? That one's pretty neat, too ...
I can't believe the origin Szechuan sauce dates back to the First World War
Squidy Y2k :o he noticed you
Tiny beginning domino: The Red Cross stages humanitarian aid in WWI Italy
Gigantic last domino: A teenager quotes Rick and Morty while jumping up and down on a McDonalds counter
@@GenkiGanbare We come real far as a society. Evolution at its finest.
I LOST IT at 11:53 at “from the McDon of time”
Amanda Smith me too
I knew that my joke that McDonald's was just the Disney of fast food was right.
I'd just like to say I find it incredibly ironic that Ray worked for the Red Cross and then went on to run one of the biggest threats to American health ever.
I love that McDonalds ad, literally a scene in IT.
Kevin is simply the best. I miss the days of less than 10k subs so that you could actually see my comments lol.
Epic as always however seeing Disney Dan dancing with the dinosaur in Dinoland is one of the best b roll additions to Defunuctland.
For reference, please see 10:41
There's not enough red flags in the world for that old McDonald's commercial.
Red flags adorned with Golden Arches
Countdown to Extinction sponsored by McDonalds sounds like some shit from an overtly satirical Cyberpunk story.
3:50 "Very wise of ya mom, Georgie, very wise indeed. I, Georgie, am Ronald McDonald, the hamburger happy clown, you are Georgie. So now we know each otha."
Man did seeing all those happy meal toys bring me right back to childhood, lol. I was lucky and had the entire Tarzan set, and they were all like puzzle pieces that all fit together in a circle to look like a jungle, or something. Also the Hercules plates. Thanks for the trip down memory lane!
New game I play every time Defunctland uploads is "how long until Eisner is mentioned?"
Start a pool. Whoever wins, drink.
*insert Rick and Morty comment over brief mention of Szechuan sauce here*
I'm mad that I was expecting a clip or something. I'm so glad I didn't get what I was expecting.
I wondered if he would say something about that lol but yeah I'm glad he didnt.
@@daltonsmith3696 *claps* good job.
Nah, Rick cares for his family lol.
Funi
I am here on January 24th 2023. The day after splash mountain has closed. RIP to an amazing ride
While I know his primary motivation was profit, the detail of Ray Kroc trying to get in touch with Disney, an old friend from the war, only for the letter to apparently never even reach the man, did make me a little sad.
Excuse me I had several of the Hercules plates McDonald’s did Back in the day. The Hercules, The Pegasus, and the Zeus. One of them mentioned meat and potatoes
I had the meat and potatoes one too. I miss it.
Apryl McIntosh And mine lasted a long time. I only lost track of it because I stopped living in the house with the person who had it.
Meat and potatoes, huh? What a clever yet subtle McDonald's reference. I still have a 101 Dalmatians Christmas ornament from McDonald's that I bring out every year. I don't typically put it on our Christmas tree, however, because I don't know if it has a loop for attaching a hanger. I typically put it on a coffee table or something like that.
I broke mine because I threw it like a frisbee... yeah.
I had the Phil one! It was broken sometime during my childhood unfortunately :(
>Video about Disney and McDonald's
>Starts with World War 1
Hoo boy
Within the first 5 seconds of every Defunctland video, I click the like button. That’s when you know it’s already going to be an incredible and informative video. (I love the Disney-McDonalds music transition, that’s going to be my ringtone)
Kevin, truly love your work. You are an under appreciated next-gen Ken Burns.
Nobody:
Disney's Animal Kingdom: "Countdown to Extinction: Sponsored by McDonald's"
Not sure I appreciate your tone of voice when referring to the true masterpiece that is Doug's First Movie.
Two giant family companies that have personal history, that I had no idea about! It's great hearing how the ties between the powerhouses created opportunities and strategies. Another informative and entertaining video. Keep it up!
Still waiting for Defunctland epi. On SIX FLAGS POWERPLANT indoor theme park (rideless) at Baltimore Inner Harbor
Rideless theme park? Isn’t that just like a mall.
@@dylanb2990 basically, but it was titled as a "theme park". Not a ton about it online, but it existed during the last half of the 80s. And it was Six Flags owned and operated. Kinda like an Epcot type. I found a cool mug at Goodwill with SixFlags PowerPlant logo also w/price tag still on bottom. Tag had S.F.P.P. just as plus price
I'm waiting for the Six Flags New Orleans episode about a theme park killed by a hurricane.
I remember being vaguely curious about that place but never actually getting up there.
Your tone of voice when you said McDisney Production says everything.
That way you said 'Doug's first movie' lol
12:46 oh! I remember that one!
I remember seeing an article of Disney and McDonalds splitting up but 'staying friends' which I thought was nice.