just seeing the road sing Tampere, i was there, delivery a truck load M.D.I. to make foam... somewhere in the '90, and now i am following you sinds some months here building a beauty... can't write no more than wow what you doing !
Bono, your beam is amazing. Praying your operation goes accordingly and for a fast recovery. Great to see the Finnish Boat Show and all your friends. Thanks again for this episode.
I cannot imagine that they are cheap. But you may keep your eyes peeled for some overhead infrared heaters. They actually warm the concrete floor under foot and are rather efficient from what I understand.
Pano! you now have a real boat shop to work in, Nice. I think you have no Idea about the size of your undertaking, but, I encourage you anyway. This will be a grand adventure. Good luck to you young man.
Hi Panu, great to see the shape in full -- good size ship!!! As to the heater situation ... that same design heater is also made to run on propane -- i use one for my shop It burns much cleaner without the smoke at startup. I would still suggest installing a CO2 detector -- even if you only run at night, it will let you know that it is safe to enter in the morning. I would also add lightweight ceiling fans to evenly distribute the heat as you have such high ceilings, or at least point some floor based fans up at the ceiling to move the heat back down to the floor -- you will definitely see a better result at floor level.
Hi, thanks! Propane isn’t really an option here. It’s not widely used here. Only for rv’s or boats really. Very rarely for heating. Also it creates a lot of moisture when burned. I already bought diesel heater with separate exhaust. 🙂 Those fans could be a good idea though!
The foundation of the boat is taking shape at last - the plan view shows a good sized boat and I am so looking forward to more progress soon. Good luck with the surgery :)
I think you're now the leading boat building channel on the youtubes, as most of the others are now in the water, or very close to it... keep up the great work!
Pano, fantastic progress and good news that you have the insulation sorted out in the shop, it should help keep you cool in summer.😉 I take it you ordered that old heater from Russia before the border closure. Good to see a familiar face and trying to work out how he had hidden the dreadlocks. At this rate you will soon catch up with Johan and Malin.😀👍⛵️
Thanks Norman! There’s no worries of keeping things cool here. There’s maybe 2-4 weeks in year when temps are above epoxy threshold 🥶. And I wish i could. Catch them I mean. They work full time with the boat, I’m like 1/4 if even that…
Panu, I really like your approach to fully designing the boat prior to building it. I think you will be very successful with the in general. Also, it strikes me that you can build more boats after the first one.
Hi, thanks! I agree that it’s good to make somewhat detailed plans even if you’re building one-off like this. Not that I’d ever gonna build another one but I think the method I’m using here is pretty efficient! (If someone would like to buy one of these, it’s of course negotiable 😁. However then there would need to be all kinds of permits, CE-certificates etc.)
What CAD system did you use for this purpose? you could sell a limited license to the models for a single build. I don't know if your planning included the interior which a big part of the work. anyway, great project and very good progress for a single person.@@ArcticSeaCamel
@@jean-francoismanchec2603 I'm using ArchiCAD which is architecture software (that i have license for and i've used it for almost 20 years (gosh!)). It's not ideal software to do boats and/or these CAM things at all. But that's what I have and I know so well... Selling partial plans and/or CAM files could be one option. However the copyright of the design is not entirely mine but also mr. Tanton's who has made the hull and rig design.
👍🏼 nice to see you enjoying life. Even sharing your limited time with other YUCK-TUBE channel sailing creators, Juho - less his sweetheart ❤ Dr.Sohvi from the ⛵️ SV LUMI. TAKE CARE IN YOUR RECOVERY❗️
It must feel great to finally have the shed fully insullated. Not to get the heating sorted. RAN Sailing has a diesel heater that has an exhaust they have routed outside; seems to work quite well. Very impressive to see the whole boat layed out. Exciting times!
I just found your channel just as you begin your boat construction. Hard to believe there are 70 episodes prior to this one! 1st impressions: You have a huge shed in which to work, and a very large CNC machine for your wood cutting! With expenditures like that it is amazing you have any money left to buy the supplies! I'll have to go back and review your earlier episodes to see what I've missed. Good job getting BOTH of the Finnish sailors in one video! 😉
Thanks! It has been a long and slow progress over the years. It has been something like six years from the first video. It then started as a dream without basically anything. After that there has been a lot of boat design, CNC design, buying a small boat and converting that to electric, purchasing and building the workshop and all the tools. On the side all the day work and developing my own company (and now there’s depression of building sector in Finland) And yes, vast majority of the money has gone into the workshop so far. So no - it hasn’t been easy and particularly fast. Also the growth of this channel has been tediously slow - mostly due the fact that there’s too little happening. But, if I just manage to keep up with the money side, I’m pretty sure that from now on there’s going to be more progress and faster. Also hoping that eventually making these videos will be worth while. 😅
@@daomingjin Yeah. The parts for moving and controlling that thing are quite affordable. The expensive part is all the physical mechanics that need to be machined very precisely. This DIY thing costed around 11K€. Not including the design and assembly work of course. This size semi-pro-hobbyist machine is around 20-30K to buy. The work area is very large. 1500mm x 2940mm. If I'd do it again I'd probably go with aluminum extruded frame. Or maybe I would actually get used 6 axis industrial robot. With proper installation with track I could probably do all the shaping of the frames with that kind of tool.
Panu, It looks amazing, both the tent, and the boat layout. Heck even the video seemed even better than usual. Well done. Oh and I swear a wood burning stove might be a good choice, the type that have a burning area that draws air from outside and uses a fan to move inside air through the building. That way no heat loss and no CO2. Assuming any wood stoves are legal where you are.
Glad you're working again. I've worked with a cnc router for 20 years and like what you are doing. Caution on the diesel heater and fumes with breathing, painting, and fiberglass. I use electric heat in my shop, but it's much smaller than yours and can be costly. Have you considered a woodburning heater?
Not really. I'd really like to avoid open flame in the shop (even though this one had one) and there's actually quite little extra wood scrap coming. I need also the heater to be independent over night. I don't really need the heat but the glue does 😅
@@ArcticSeaCamelwhen you start painting heat will even be more important. Leaving it unattended is also key. In your location a heater is a cornerstone of the project.
Amazing Happiness to See you again. 😀 Plenty of Joy every time to view your work. Look into the Propane Heaters safe to work with Clean Air. Lots of Love, be will and healthy :)
Diesel heaters used in vans/boats might be a better option. They have exhaust tubes to be run outside. I don't know if that type is also illegal in Finland.
No they’re fine. Buy they’re also not powerful enough. I actually bought a 20kw heater already. Same kind but with chimney. Now I just need to figure out how to route that outside…
@@danielsondavidf Yeah, that's a good idea. I've been thinking of getting some sort of air filtering fan. Maybe that could do both jobs... 🤔 (at the same time I wouldn't want to put any more money and effort for this workshop thing... 🥺😝)
@@ArcticSeaCamel - I will be watching with anticipation! This is such a cool project. I have built my own CNC (inspired by you) with the hopes of using it to build a boat someday.
This kind of heater should burn the diesel very cleanly. So the exhaust is carbon dioxide and water vapor. And then that small amount of something that smells bad. But not carbon monixide. RAN sailing has similar heater and they tested it last fall when they installed it. :)
That type of heater is a bullet/torpedo heater and will produce carbon monoxide as well as other toxic fumes. The heater that RAN use is not similar. It has an external flue and is the type of heater that should be used to heat an enclosed space.
@@svlamancha9877 My understanding is that carbon monoxide is produced only if burning isn't "perfect". The principle with these heaters is the same. They just have the chimney version. And I actually bought almost exactly the same model. With chimney connection. They tested the exhaust with carbon monoxide detector and it didn't say anything. 🙂
Mate your approach is different and that’s OK however the amount of cost involved in setting up must be huge just the plywood base alone let alone the time. I’m hopeful it speeds the build up but I can’t see it ,I’ve built and you can double what u think it will take in time alone
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I just realized that I didn't mention in the "boat fair scene" that Finland of course has huge coast of Baltic Sea and unique archipelago there! 😂
just seeing the road sing Tampere, i was there, delivery a truck load M.D.I. to make foam...
somewhere in the '90, and now i am following you sinds some months here building a beauty... can't write no more than wow what you doing !
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Bono, your beam is amazing. Praying your operation goes accordingly and for a fast recovery. Great to see the Finnish Boat Show and all your friends. Thanks again for this episode.
I cannot imagine that they are cheap. But you may keep your eyes peeled for some overhead infrared heaters. They actually warm the concrete floor under foot and are rather efficient from what I understand.
Pano! you now have a real boat shop to work in, Nice. I think you have no Idea about the size of your undertaking, but, I encourage you anyway. This will be a grand adventure. Good luck to you young man.
Hi Panu, great to see the shape in full -- good size ship!!! As to the heater situation ... that same design heater is also made to run on propane -- i use one for my shop It burns much cleaner without the smoke at startup. I would still suggest installing a CO2 detector -- even if you only run at night, it will let you know that it is safe to enter in the morning. I would also add lightweight ceiling fans to evenly distribute the heat as you have such high ceilings, or at least point some floor based fans up at the ceiling to move the heat back down to the floor -- you will definitely see a better result at floor level.
Hi, thanks!
Propane isn’t really an option here. It’s not widely used here. Only for rv’s or boats really. Very rarely for heating.
Also it creates a lot of moisture when burned.
I already bought diesel heater with separate exhaust. 🙂
Those fans could be a good idea though!
Awesome to see you and Juho together. It is getting exciting to see the size and shape of the boat! Can’t wait to see the frames going up!
The foundation of the boat is taking shape at last - the plan view shows a good sized boat and I am so looking forward to more progress soon. Good luck with the surgery :)
Thanks! 😊
Panu, Its wonderful to now see the outline of the boat. I'm impressed how big it is!
Thanks, me too! 🤩
I think you're now the leading boat building channel on the youtubes, as most of the others are now in the water, or very close to it... keep up the great work!
Thanks! 🥹
RAN sailing are just now under torture board. 👍🏽
@@Finn-McCool Yeah! Learning a ton from their experiences which is very nice!
You need fans on ceiling. The heat is up there.
Good to see you back, I hope your batteries are now fully charged.
She's looking good, can't wait to see the frames go in now! Hope the operation goes ok. All the best from the UK.
Pano, fantastic progress and good news that you have the insulation sorted out in the shop, it should help keep you cool in summer.😉 I take it you ordered that old heater from Russia before the border closure.
Good to see a familiar face and trying to work out how he had hidden the dreadlocks. At this rate you will soon catch up with Johan and Malin.😀👍⛵️
Thanks Norman! There’s no worries of keeping things cool here. There’s maybe 2-4 weeks in year when temps are above epoxy threshold 🥶.
And I wish i could. Catch them I mean. They work full time with the boat, I’m like 1/4 if even that…
Your boat is in ground lines well done end take your time after the little chirurgie 👍
Good to have you back Bono. She is quite beamy laid on the floor like that!
❓️ is that how his name is spelt 🤔❓️ I thought it was - Panu
Sorry you are right I think!@@stevenr8606
Panu, I really like your approach to fully designing the boat prior to building it. I think you will be very successful with the in general. Also, it strikes me that you can build more boats after the first one.
Hi, thanks!
I agree that it’s good to make somewhat detailed plans even if you’re building one-off like this.
Not that I’d ever gonna build another one but I think the method I’m using here is pretty efficient!
(If someone would like to buy one of these, it’s of course negotiable 😁. However then there would need to be all kinds of permits, CE-certificates etc.)
What CAD system did you use for this purpose? you could sell a limited license to the models for a single build. I don't know if your planning included the interior which a big part of the work. anyway, great project and very good progress for a single person.@@ArcticSeaCamel
@@jean-francoismanchec2603 I'm using ArchiCAD which is architecture software (that i have license for and i've used it for almost 20 years (gosh!)). It's not ideal software to do boats and/or these CAM things at all. But that's what I have and I know so well...
Selling partial plans and/or CAM files could be one option. However the copyright of the design is not entirely mine but also mr. Tanton's who has made the hull and rig design.
👍🏼 nice to see you enjoying life. Even sharing your limited time with other YUCK-TUBE channel sailing creators, Juho - less his sweetheart ❤ Dr.Sohvi from the ⛵️ SV LUMI. TAKE CARE IN YOUR RECOVERY❗️
Actually met them both there. They were very nice people 😊
Kyllä napsuu palikat komeasti paikoilleen! Hyvä filmi taas. 👍
I'm thoroughly enjoying the project, Panu. Congratulations on beginning the deck phase, and best of luck with your minor surgery.
Thanks! It's quite OK already!
It must feel great to finally have the shed fully insullated. Not to get the heating sorted. RAN Sailing has a diesel heater that has an exhaust they have routed outside; seems to work quite well. Very impressive to see the whole boat layed out. Exciting times!
Yeah, I already bought the same kind of heater. Now I only need to figure out the exhaust through the tent somehow…
I just found your channel just as you begin your boat construction. Hard to believe there are 70 episodes prior to this one! 1st impressions: You have a huge shed in which to work, and a very large CNC machine for your wood cutting! With expenditures like that it is amazing you have any money left to buy the supplies! I'll have to go back and review your earlier episodes to see what I've missed. Good job getting BOTH of the Finnish sailors in one video! 😉
Thanks!
It has been a long and slow progress over the years. It has been something like six years from the first video. It then started as a dream without basically anything.
After that there has been a lot of boat design, CNC design, buying a small boat and converting that to electric, purchasing and building the workshop and all the tools. On the side all the day work and developing my own company (and now there’s depression of building sector in Finland)
And yes, vast majority of the money has gone into the workshop so far.
So no - it hasn’t been easy and particularly fast.
Also the growth of this channel has been tediously slow - mostly due the fact that there’s too little happening.
But, if I just manage to keep up with the money side, I’m pretty sure that from now on there’s going to be more progress and faster. Also hoping that eventually making these videos will be worth while. 😅
Large format CNC machines are not that expensive - not like 20 years ago.
@@daomingjin Yeah. The parts for moving and controlling that thing are quite affordable. The expensive part is all the physical mechanics that need to be machined very precisely. This DIY thing costed around 11K€. Not including the design and assembly work of course. This size semi-pro-hobbyist machine is around 20-30K to buy. The work area is very large. 1500mm x 2940mm.
If I'd do it again I'd probably go with aluminum extruded frame.
Or maybe I would actually get used 6 axis industrial robot. With proper installation with track I could probably do all the shaping of the frames with that kind of tool.
Taking shape!
Panu, Great progress! Good luck with the surgury
Panu, It looks amazing, both the tent, and the boat layout. Heck even the video seemed even better than usual. Well done. Oh and I swear a wood burning stove might be a good choice, the type that have a burning area that draws air from outside and uses a fan to move inside air through the building. That way no heat loss and no CO2. Assuming any wood stoves are legal where you are.
Thanks!
Wood would be somewhat ok, but I really need the heater to be on by itself over night to get the glue-ups done.
that looks crazy with all the snow... my mom says they took me to see snow once when I was a baby... I'm older than you now...
Have a good recovery ! Take care !
hi from France. Glad to hear you no longer use this diesel heater. I follow just two Finns on YT, you and Elmo. it would be a shame to lose one 🤟😂
Nice! I'm not going anywhere anytime soon!
Elmo = Elmo Karjalainen...?
@@ArcticSeaCamelyes himself 😊
Incredible musician and incredible sailboat, you make the right pair 😅 good luck to you!
Glad you're working again. I've worked with a cnc router for 20 years and like what you are doing. Caution on the diesel heater and fumes with breathing, painting, and fiberglass. I use electric heat in my shop, but it's much smaller than yours and can be costly. Have you considered a woodburning heater?
Not really. I'd really like to avoid open flame in the shop (even though this one had one) and there's actually quite little extra wood scrap coming. I need also the heater to be independent over night. I don't really need the heat but the glue does 😅
@@ArcticSeaCamelwhen you start painting heat will even be more important. Leaving it unattended is also key. In your location a heater is a cornerstone of the project.
Bravo,I'm excited to see the progress. I also enjoyed the video of your road trips, finland looks a lot like Alaska.
Amazing Happiness to See you again. 😀 Plenty of Joy every time to view your work. Look into the Propane Heaters safe to work with Clean Air. Lots of Love, be will and healthy :)
Hello again Panu! Building up to some tremendous things! Congrats!
Looking good. 🇨🇦
Besides the issue of CO, a direct fire burner like that produces a tremendous amount of moister in the air. The byproduct of combustion is CO and H2O.
Yes. And gas (propane etc) is even worse!
Fascinating at last the hard work is paying off.
YooHoo Panu Its starting to take shape !! Great Stuff and Best Wishes with your Health
hope you finish this project before we all die)) good luck
😂
Excellent!!
Looks good 👍🏻
Go .go..go Panu everything is fine 👏
I'm jealous of your plywood rack.
I would have needed that a long time ago! 😍
Wow. So cool.
Cool project thank you for sharing
Hey Panu. thanks for your new video. It seems you are in good mood and it’s going forward. Crack on
Good progress
Amazing
If you had a long metal chimney to take the fumes out of the building. It would at least give some radiant heat ?
Nice work!
So Juho have cut off his dreadlocks almost didnt recognise him 😂
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A glitch in the Matrix, at 0:42 you record yourself while also a clone of you going up the stairs ;)
😅😱
Hopefully I can start controlling The Matrix soon so that i can make things roll like I want them to... 😁
@@ArcticSeaCamel You just need to change your name to ArcticSeaNeo 😅
That's his twin brother of another Mother no yellow stripes on his jacket
That’s another encouraging milestone , and hope you recover quickly 😃🍻
Thanks!
😍
nice!
Diesel heaters used in vans/boats might be a better option. They have exhaust tubes to be run outside. I don't know if that type is also illegal in Finland.
No they’re fine. Buy they’re also not powerful enough.
I actually bought a 20kw heater already. Same kind but with chimney. Now I just need to figure out how to route that outside…
@@ArcticSeaCamelConsider adding large ceiling fans to cycle the rising heated air back to floor level.
@@danielsondavidf Yeah, that's a good idea. I've been thinking of getting some sort of air filtering fan. Maybe that could do both jobs... 🤔
(at the same time I wouldn't want to put any more money and effort for this workshop thing... 🥺😝)
This is amazing… I have been following you since the beginning. How will you turn the hull over?
It takes two cranes and a lot of courage. 😅
@@ArcticSeaCamel - I will be watching with anticipation! This is such a cool project. I have built my own CNC (inspired by you) with the hopes of using it to build a boat someday.
Better intro i like it
Get a diesel heater that vents outside
Already got it! 🙂
Juho cut his hair!
He did! 😄
Wait...Juho cut off his dreads?
Doesn’t the diesel heater fill you shed with carbon monoxide ?
This kind of heater should burn the diesel very cleanly. So the exhaust is carbon dioxide and water vapor. And then that small amount of something that smells bad. But not carbon monixide.
RAN sailing has similar heater and they tested it last fall when they installed it. :)
That type of heater is a bullet/torpedo heater and will produce carbon monoxide as well as other toxic fumes. The heater that RAN use is not similar. It has an external flue and is the type of heater that should be used to heat an enclosed space.
@@svlamancha9877 My understanding is that carbon monoxide is produced only if burning isn't "perfect".
The principle with these heaters is the same. They just have the chimney version. And I actually bought almost exactly the same model. With chimney connection. They tested the exhaust with carbon monoxide detector and it didn't say anything. 🙂
👍👍👍
Mate your approach is different and that’s OK however the amount of cost involved in setting up must be huge just the plywood base alone let alone the time. I’m hopeful it speeds the build up but I can’t see it ,I’ve built and you can double what u think it will take in time alone
Safe and economic convector Demrad 30 F
and Juho to
run K1 kerosene not diesel will burn cleaner
Jos löydät infrapunalämitin niin ne on tosi tehokat
Maybe I need to get one eventually to add some local heat. We'll see.
Katso jos nettikonessa on myynissä vanhoja hallilämitintä se ehkä olis tosi hyviä
Use, kerosene not diesel
Not available here at all…
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U fucking Europe people are scared of everything. lol those heaters are fine we use them everywhere in the us and people don’t die
It’s not that. It’s the bad smell that gives me headache…
That must be because all the brave people must have choked on CO, we had more centuries of evolution to test that scare.